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J.B. Hixson: Looking Up & Setting Our Hearts on Things Above · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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So JB Hicks and Pastor JB, he's with not by works ministries and BW ministries and what
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we love his perspective and we're going to get away from some of the noise and all the
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stuff that's a little heavy going on in our culture and around the world, Middle East,
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everything else today.
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And I just want to get into some encouraging scripture and JB's commentary.
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Brother, so good to see you again.
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Thanks for your time.
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Oh, my pleasure, David, always great to be with you.
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You're one of the best and yeah, I mean, there's so much going on in the world and you've
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got excellent guests that talk about their areas of expertise.
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But I just thought it'd be good today to just sort of rise above some of that and just
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let the word of God speak to our hearts and just encourage the body out there, how to
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find peace in the midst of all of this chaos.
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I think we all need it.
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And before we do that, though, I want to get an update.
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I know you've been, this has been a very busy season, has it been conference season or
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what's going on?
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I know you've spoken out a lot of conferences, you've put a lot of miles on your vehicle
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because you drive to most of your events, don't you?
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We do, yeah, we've done more flying this year than we have in the past because we've
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had some trips to different places like Alaska and Hawaii and we had a couple of times where
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we had to fly to the East Coast just because of timing.
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But yeah, we generally drive and yeah, it's been a very wonderful year, very edifying,
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very fruitful in the sense of getting the gospel out and just really excited about that.
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We're in a bit of a sort of a reprieve here.
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We don't have anything on the road in November, thankfully.
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And that's why it's not going to spend some time with family, but we have another conference
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in December and then 26, David is already filling up, but yeah, you know, God is good.
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Plum Creek Chapel, our home church is really moving forward.
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We're seeing some great ministry there on Sundays and just thankful to be doing what
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we're doing.
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Of course, our passion, as you know, is the clarity, accuracy and urgency of the gospel.
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And even though I'm also passionate about current events, geopolitics, the Luciferian
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conspiracy and some of those things that are happening to set the stage for the coming
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one-world system, you know, my real heartbeat is to get the gospel out and remind people
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that only through a relationship with Jesus Christ can they have any hope of heaven.
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By the way, thank you for mentioning always going back to the gospel.
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On your website, I love this.
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I don't remember it being on the homepage though.
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Tell us about the rapture kit.
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I think you've got that, the link to it right on your homepage toward the bottom there.
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Tell us about that.
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I love that.
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I love that.
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So thanks for letting me pitch that for just a second here.
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So that's something there.
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There are a lot of this type of thing out there.
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A lot of ministries do it, you know, really well, but ours is a little unique.
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It's something we prayed about for over a year that the Lord put on my heart to really,
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you know, put this together and we were very intentional about what is in it.
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But the rapture kit is basically a small, almost like book sized, maybe two inches thick box.
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On the cover, it says, if millions of people suddenly disappeared, open immediately.
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And it is, you put that in a prominent spot in your four year or your house and after the rapture,
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then when folks who are left behind, which of course means they weren't Christians,
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they didn't know the Lord come in.
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And they'll be drawn to that and they're going to go, well, yeah, as a matter of fact,
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millions of people did disappear.
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I'm curious.
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Let me open it.
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And then when they open it, really the Holy Spirit takes it from there.
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We've got a Bible in there, brand new Bible, still in the packaging, we've got a cover
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letter where I kind of explain the contents and encourage them what to watch first.
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It's got a thumb drive with some videos, including the first one is an eight minute video
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where I talked directly to those left behind.
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It's got my video one minute after the rapture.
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It's got gospel tracks, it's got my book, The Gospel Unplugged.
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So just how plenty of resources to help somebody come to faith who was left behind.
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And then it's got the tracks and the idea is if they get to, if they come to know the Lord
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by faith, we encourage them to share the gospel with others.
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And then I also include my prepared this guide in there so that they'll have some practical
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advice and instruction on how to avoid the, the reign of the Antichrist and to be able
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to hide out and live below the radar and hopefully not be martyred and come out the end
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of the seven years when Christ comes back.
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So anyway, yeah, that's what the rapture kit is and those are available at notmyworks.org.
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Awesome.
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Thank you for that.
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It's so important and we don't think about that.
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And I know a lot of Christians just put so much focus on, I'm out of here, but what happens?
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Do we really care about the people that are going to be left behind?
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So what was I going to, oh yeah, your book, I want to just mention the great last day's
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apostasy.
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That's your recent one.
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Are you working on anything new, JB?
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I am.
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So the great last day's apostasy came out in February.
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I'll be speaking about it one more time in December at the pre-trib conference in Dallas,
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which is has a great lineup of speakers, by the way, Andy Woods, Tommy Eis, Tom Hughes,
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many of the guests that you have had on Bill Cainig, Max Locato will be there.
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But anyway, that's in December.
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But my new book is a little bit of a departure from some of the overt Bible prophecy themes
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that I've done in the last few years and going back to more basic Bible and theology.
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And the working title is Life Under the Sun, Finding Meaning in the Meaningless World.
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And I'm going to take some of the truths that I've been teaching through from ecclesiastes
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and work them into this book that's just been so encouraging to me.
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So target time for that is the spring of next year.
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But we'll have more to say about that as time goes on.
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Sounds good.
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And we'll have you to talk about it, Lord willing, if we're all still here.
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So JB, we're going to focus on setting our hearts and minds on what's really important.
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And that, of course, is Jesus.
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And people, I want to just let you in on a behind the scenes moment here between JB and
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I, talking about what to just share today.
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Today on social media, now we recorded this couple days in advance, but today on social
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media, I posted Colossians three, one through four.
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That was one of JB's scriptures that he sent me, one on the list that he wanted to talk
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about as just to encourage you.
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But I want to read this and I'll just let you get going, JB, therefore if you've been
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raised up with Christ, keep seeking things above where Christ is seated at the right hand
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of God, set your mind on things above, not on the things that are on earth.
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For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
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When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you will also be revealed with him in
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glory.
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Colossians three, one through four, I can't think of, well, there's so many scriptures
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that are encouraging me.
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That's a good way to kick off this topic, JB, go ahead and share whatever you like from
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here.
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Yeah.
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Great verse.
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And it just shows that great minds think alike, right, David?
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I mean, we were on the same wavelength today.
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And it is funny how often the Lord does it.
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I'm sure you've experienced that a lot with your guests through the years where it just
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it seems like the Lord puts something similar on each other's hearts.
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But yeah, so certainly we need to compare scripture with scripture.
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And that verse is not implying that we should care nothing about the things of this world.
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And other passages like Matthew 16, of course, tell us to watch for the signs of the times
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and be aware of what's happening.
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We're here for a reason that we have a purpose on this earth in the present church age.
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But at the same time, we need to look up.
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I love the words of King David in Psalm 5 when he says, my voice, you shall hear in the
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morning, O Lord, in the morning, I will direct it to you and I will look up.
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And what's interesting, David, is on the seconder side of things, we're seeing a lot of attention
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focused into the heavenlies, right?
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We've got space for us.
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We've got private space travel.
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We've got the burgeoning UFO reality.
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We've got comets and asteroids.
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And it's just a lot of satellites with Elon Musk and there's a lot of attention focused
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heavenward, which I believe, by the way, is a sign of the times preparing us for what's
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going to happen.
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But as believers, we have another reason to look up.
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And that is because the trumpet's going to sound one day and we're going to meet the
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Lord where in the air.
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And it reminds me of Jesus, this is sort of metaphorical, but it just came to my mind
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as I was thinking about this today.
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Jesus interaction with the blind man in Mark 8 and the text says in verse 25, then Jesus
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put his hands on his eyes again and made him look up.
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Only if we would just look up more because, as Paul said, our citizenship really is in
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heaven, from which we eagerly await the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, Philippians 320.
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So we really are just passing through, we're sojourners and strangers.
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As the passage that you quoted says, Jesus is in heaven right now.
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Now he's coming back, obviously, to inaugurate his kingdom and we'll be coming back with him
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at the end of the tribulation.
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But right now, as we read in Psalm 110, he is sitting at the right hand of the Lord.
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That's where Christ is.
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And we're there with him, essentially, yeah, we're here physically in our bodies.
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We have, again, a purpose, the great commission.
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But ultimately, when you place your faith in Jesus Christ, trusting in Him and Him alone
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as the only one who paid your personal sin debt and rose again, when you trust in Christ
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in that instant, you become part of the family of God.
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And now your citizenship is in heaven.
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And so I think, you know, as we've been talking a lot at Plum Creek Chapel in our study
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of Ecclesiastes, we live under the sun, yes.
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But under the sun, it's all vanity.
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There's nothing under the sun that can bring meaning and purpose.
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We've got to rise above the sun and look at things through a biblical perspective.
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That's right.
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I know the song, I don't remember which one this is when you were talking about, you
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know, everybody looking up in the stars and everything, satellites and all that.
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There's a phrase, a phrase of scripture that says, the sun to rule by day, the moon in
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the stars to rule by night is mercy and doers forever.
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And God made the great lights.
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And when we look up, how can you not think of God?
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And just it really is amazing, as it says in Romans, one men are without excuse.
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You look at creation.
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I don't know, JB, I'm glad I don't truly understand an atheist or someone who can look
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at the majesty around the world in nature, in nature and creation and not think there
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was a designer, a creator.
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I don't know what that's like, but we've got to get the gospel to these people, don't
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we?
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, the heavens declare the glory of God and again, back to our theme of looking
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up.
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Most people today are looking down, right?
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Looking at their phones, looking at their devices, looking at, you know, their bank accounts,
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looking at their portfolios, whatever it might be.
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And we need to look up.
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I love this verse in Ephesians chapter two, verses four to six, listen to this.
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But God who is rich and mercy, because of his great love with which he loved us, even
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when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by grace you
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have been saved and noticed and raised us up together and made us sit together in the
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heavenly places in Christ Jesus.
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So, we've already talked about, as you've quoted and I've quoted, Christ is sitting at
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the right hand of the throne of God in heaven, waiting for that trumpet to sound and God says,
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go get them, you know.
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But in the meantime, spiritually speaking, that's where we are.
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I mean, spiritually speaking, our home is in heaven.
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And right now, as we live out our days in this, in the flesh, in this, you know, flesh
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and blood, reality of time, space and matter, we're doing so with a unique purpose.
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And that is we are spiritually alive and we are calling people to be made spiritually
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alive by faith alone in Christ alone.
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So there's some other scriptures you sent me in and, you know, this is the short list
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because there are so many, so much encouragement.
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I think of the one you also referred to earlier, some of the most encouraging words are
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second Corinthians or second Thessalonians, chapter four.
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The very last phrase is, therefore comfort one another with these words.
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And so we are to comfort just the thought of being with Jesus forever.
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Therefore, you will always be with the Lord, comfort one another with these words.
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Yeah, first Thess 4, 16 to 18 there, yeah, I mean, it's, again, we are, we're going to
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rise up someday, right, at the rapture, we know that it could happen at any moment.
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It could happen before we finish recording this, this podcast, but, but certainly that's
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a comfort to us.
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And especially these days when there's so much heartache and trouble, and I don't mean
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to sound pessimistic, but let's face it.
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I mean, we've got the coming digital ID, we've got, you know, we're sabre rattling and
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wars and rumors of wars, we've got the earthquakes like never before, we've got strange things
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happening in the geopolitical realm, even in the political realm.
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You and I were talking a little bit before we started recording.
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I mean, it's, it's hard to know, you know, who's who anymore?
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Because, you know, sometimes Republicans will do things that we're not excited about.
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Sometimes Democrats will actually have a voice of reason.
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It's rare, but occasionally they do.
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And so, you know, it's hard to know who's with you and who's not anymore.
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Politics makes strange bedfellows sometimes, but, but yeah, that's why, you know, we've
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got to navigate all of this through the lens of scripture and we certainly don't want
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to throw up our hands and give up because that's not what we're called to do.
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But at the same time, from a personal spiritual edification perspective, it can be so helpful
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to do what David did and just look up from time to time.
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By the way, Jesus told the disciples that in John 14 and talk about a time of trouble,
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they were about to get into, I mean, Christ was going to be crucified in a matter of days.
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You know, they're, they're, they're, they're leader, they're master, they're savior.
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And he says, let not your heart be troubled.
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You believe in God will leave also in me.
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And then what does he say next?
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He immediately calls their attention heavenward in my father's house or many mansions.
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If it were not so, I would have told you, I go to prepare a place for you.
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And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to myself
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that where I am there.
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You may be also.
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So it's helpful to rise above the clouds and think about the Lord.
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Something you said made me think about when someone that is maybe not a believer, preciates
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the gospel.
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I think of first, first, I'm going backwards.
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It's chapter one, not first, anything, Philippians chapter one, verse 18.
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And I want you to provide some context for my understanding, but also for the audience,
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the viewers and listeners, JB, they were talking about people preaching the gospel with
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the wrong motives.
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And verse 18 says, what then Paul writes, only that in every way, whether in pretense
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or in truth, Christ is proclaimed and in this, I rejoice.
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Can you share some context behind that?
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Yeah, I would love to.
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In fact, I quoted that verse just recently in a conversation with someone.
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So once again, kind of on the same wavelength there.
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You know, I might have a slightly different take on, for example, the memorial service for
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the late Charlie Kirk, where I see more of a political tint to that than a spiritual
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tint.
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But clearly, God used that and at times the gospel went forth.
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And many people have been saved as a result of that.
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It's not the way I would do it in person.
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But God can hit a home run with a crooked stick, amen?
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And there have been a lot of times in my 40 year journey of ministry where I've not been
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particularly clear or accurate about my articulation of the gospel.
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And yet, somehow the Spirit of God takes it and he uses it to convict the world of
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sin, righteousness and judgment.
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So it doesn't, Philippians 118 isn't, you know, an excuse to just any old gospel will
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do.
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Just get out there, whatever you're motive, you know, that's not it.
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Paul is just rightly pointing out as he does elsewhere that it's, that the gospel is
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the power of God to salvation and that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of
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God, Romans 116 and Romans 10 and 17.
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So therefore, even if the people preaching it have an ulterior motive, praise God, the
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Spirit can, can hit a home run with a crooked stick.
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And that's, I love that, you know, God can hit a home run with a crooked stick.
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I think of Isaiah 55, God's word will not return to Him void is, did I get the address
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right?
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Yeah, I think it's Isaiah 55, what, eight or something like that.
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Eight through 11 talks about as the rain and the snow come down from heaven and do not
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return there but water the earth and social my word be that proceeds from my mouth will
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not return to me void.
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I just paraphrased, but so we can be confident when we hear the word of God.
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And I wasn't going to go here, JB, but I have to because you're a pastor, you do a lot
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of traveling.
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Unfortunately, in a lot of churches today, people are not going to hear the clear concise
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gospel.
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They're not going to hear the whole council of God.
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Now I want you to speak to this, Bible sales are off the charts, there's Christian music.
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I mean, the Charlie Kirk Memorial Service had an impact, even Chris Tomlin said he was amazed
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at the spirit there.
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And now youth, more youth are seemingly open to truth seeking going to church.
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All these young kids put in tick to I'm going to church for the first time or I'm going
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back to church.
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Here's the prop.
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That's a good thing, right?
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That's a good thing.
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The Holy Spirit's moving, but here's the problem.
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What church are they going to go to?
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What thoughts on that, JB?
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Yeah, I mean, obviously discernment is a big problem in the church today.
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I talk about that in my book, The Great Last Days of Postercy.
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It's a sign of the times.
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So we have to nuance the seasons of revival and the pockets of revival that are happening
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because the Spirit of God is alive and well with the reality that unfortunately many people
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will get saved and then be caught up in this tide of deception and be caught up in things
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like gnar and Christian nationalism and dominionism and some of these false teachings.
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I know you've had Holly Pivicon before talking about this.
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And so that's why we need to remnant.
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That's why we need people like you and ministries like yours and ours to try to sound the alarm
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and give believers, especially young believers, the opportunity and the resources they need
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to grow in the faith.
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But yeah, I mean, the thank the great news is it only takes the faith of a mustard seed
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to be saved, right?
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The gospel is so simple, the child can understand it, Christ died for sins and rose from the dead.
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A perfect example of that, you know, we do a recurring segment every week which we've
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done now for about a year called Testimony Tuesdays and we had one just recently.
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I'm not even sure if it's aired yet, but I love these interviews because you just get
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to hear people's journey and their testimony and we'd love to get you on one of those
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someday.
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But this person got saved, believe it or not, at a Catholic charismatic meeting.
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And he said, you know, I don't understand it.
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And he said, I now know back years later and I've grown in the faith and I understood
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the errors of Roman Catholicism and all this.
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But he said, I can tell you this, this priest that stood up, they gave a clear gospel reading
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from the gospel of John chapter three and the spirit used it in that moment to lead
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in your faith.
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So I, you know, I'm glad for that, I'm thankful for that, but it doesn't necessarily mean
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we don't fight for clarity, accuracy, and urgent.
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So what are your thoughts on the Bible sales?
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I don't remember the number, but it is astronomical since in the last month or so, people are
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going to need someone to teach or explain them or walk them through the Bible because
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on their own, and especially if they don't have the Holy Spirit, if they're not saved,
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they can pick up a Bible and they can read it and think it's history or whatever.
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What are your thoughts on that JB?
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So a couple of thoughts.
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So first of all, it's interesting that every time there's a major event, a major sort
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of, you know, unfreezing, earth changing event, and I would put the Charlie Kirk assassination
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in that category.
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And it was big news, it was horrific, it was tragic.
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And I think it draws people into a sense of spiritual mindset.
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They think about eternity, they think about, you know, spiritual matters.
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And so we saw that after 9-11, we saw that at, you know, COVID, we see that at different
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points.
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And so that's good.
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And you know, I think that's probably a big reason why we're seeing a Bible sales off
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the charts.
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Now, obviously, as I said earlier, the word says it's that the word of God is quick and
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powerful, sharper than a two-inch, it sort of faith comes by hearing hearing by the word
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of God.
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So even if an unbeliever reads the word of God, I think, and we've had countless examples
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of this, of just reading a Bible, people obviously come to faith, that's the best way to do
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it.
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Nobody says the gospel better than God himself.
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And so, you know, we love when people read the Bible that are unbelievers.
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But you're right, that, you know, the God in this present church age has set aside pastors
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and teachers.
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It's a divine office or divinely instituted office where he uses that to help people grow
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in the faith.
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And so this goes back to what you said about the need for good, solid Bible teaching churches.
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But yeah, the gospel can absolutely is big enough and bold enough and living an active
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enough to bring people to faith.
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And so I love it.
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I think it's fantastic that Bible sales are off the charts.
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And in fact, at NBW, we recently launched a deal.
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This will be actually the first time I've mentioned it.
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But the Lord put this on my heart also about a year ago and we're just now doing it.
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And it's a risk financially, but we just want to get the Bible out there.
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So we now offer for free on our website, Bibles.
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And we ask people to show discernment, but if you know someone that needs a Bible, you
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can put it in your cart and there's no cost, no shipping, we'll send it to you.
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And we're praying that people won't take advantage of that and it won't send us to the
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poor house.
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If it gets to be a problem, we may have to discontinue it.
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But that's how much we believe in the power and the authority of God's Word.
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If you know someone needs a Bible or you need a Bible, we'll give you one for free.
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Amen.
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The Word is alive and active in sharper than a two-edged sword in the gospel.
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Yeah.
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It's very clear when we don't mess it up.
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JB, two minutes left and I want to just quote Luke 21, 28, and ask you about signs.
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Some people get wrapped up looking for signs and then looking at signs that might not even
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imply anything.
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But like today, what we're seeing around the world, now when these things begin to happen,
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Jesus said, look up and lift up your heads because your redemption draws near.
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Close us out with your thoughts on this.
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Yeah.
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Anyone is Luke's account of the Olivet Discourse that's paralleled in Mark 13 and specifically
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in Matthew 24 and 25, the biggest treatment of it.
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I believe that's all speaking about the future tribulation period, Daniel 70th week, and
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the return of Christ.
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And so Jesus is speaking there to the Jews.
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When you see all these signs that are happening, the seal judgments and all these things that
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he discusses, then you know my return is near.
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But elsewhere, there are parallel passages that use similar language for the church and
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the rapture.
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And so that's why I included it because again, it's this idea of look up, look up, lift
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up your heads.
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And I think we need to do that.
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So again, Matthew 16, he says, you know, be careful that you watch for the signs of
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the times.
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And so there are a lot of things happening that clearly foretell of, you know, end times
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prophecies being fulfilled.
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It doesn't mean the rapture is going to happen tomorrow.
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And obviously we don't want to set dates.
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But I mean, you'd have to be living in a cave not to have a sense of excitement and enthusiasm
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that we're getting ever so close.
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Amen, brother.
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Thank you.
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Great perspective today.
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Just encouraging people, first to get in the word.
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And sadly, we have to say we cannot depend on our pastors in American churches.
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If you go to a great church where your pastor is teaching the whole council of God, understands
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Bible prophecy and sound doctrine, and that's great.
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But unfortunately, we have a big problem in that area.
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So be good, Bereans, friends.
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Study the word on your own.
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And JB's website again, notbyworks.org, not by works, brother.
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Thank you.
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Goes by fast.
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We'll do this again in the near future.
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Appreciate your time.
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Amen.
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My pleasure.
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Always an honor.
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Thanks, JB.
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Friends, thank you again for your prayers and support.
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God bless you.
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Always, you know what to do.
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Keep speaking the truth about things that matter.