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The Savage Murder of an Iowa College Student Snatched While Jogging · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: So I want you to imagine you're out for like
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an evening jog on this quiet country.
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Speaker 2: Road, right, just a normal run.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, and your phone is in your pocket doing what
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phones do. Yeah, you know, just silently pinging the cell
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towers around you every few secondsyeh.
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Speaker 2: Of establishing that connection.
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Speaker 1: Right, and you're moving at a steady, you know, human pace,
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like say, six miles an hour. But then in the
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span of just a single digital handshake between your phone
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and the nearest tower, your digital ghost suddenly accelerates to
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sixty miles an hour.
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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I mean that is the absolute terrifying digital
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signature of an abduction. It really is, because you know,
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a person jogging does not suddenly hit highway speeds on
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a rural blacktop. It's just not physically possible.
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Speaker 1: No, it's not. And today we were looking at a
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case where a single data point exactly like that, completely
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shattered the illusion of a quiet, perfect American town. We're
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unpacking this staggering procedural mystery, which is the tragic disappearance
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and murder of a twenty year old college student named
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Molly Tibbitts.
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Speaker 2: And you know, while this is obviously a heartbreaking story.
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The reality of how this investigation unfolded is just an
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absolute masterclass in modern detective work.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the techniques they use are incredible.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, We are going to examine the bleeding edge of
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digital footprints and the grueling psychological chess match that takes
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place inside a marathon interrogation room.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, that interrogation.
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Speaker 2: Is intense, it really is. And on top of that,
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we have the completely unpredictable, high stakes theatrics of a
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murder trial where literally everything goes wrong for the prosecution.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to take you behind the yellow tape
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today because the goal here isn't just to talk about
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what happened, but to really understand the mechanics of justice,
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you know, to.
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Speaker 2: See how the sausage is made, so to speak.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. We want to see how a seemingly airtight investigation,
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i mean, won backed by federal resources and nationwide attention,
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can suddenly just hang by a single freyed thread over
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a legal technicality.
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Speaker 2: It's terrifying how for agile at all is. But we
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will meticulously analyze this timeline from the initial panic in
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a town of what fifteen hundred people? Yeah about that
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super small right from that panic to the final fall
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of the judge's gabble. We're pulling out the how and
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the why behind law enforcement's most critical and sometimes controversial decisions.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this. We have to start on July eighteenth,
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twenty eighteen, in Brooklyn, Iowa. And this is a tiny,
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really tight knit farming community.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very rural.
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Speaker 1: We are talking about a place where residents famously leave
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their doors unlocked, like it's the absolute picture of agrarian safety.
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's the kind of environment that breeds
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a false sense of security. How So, Well, when everyone
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knows everyone else's business, you kind of assume this collective
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blanket of protection, right, like nothing bad can happen here,
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But that blanket is actually incredibly fragile.
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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. So Molly Tibbets was
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a twenty year old student at the University of Iowa
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and she was majoring in child psychology.
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Speaker 2: By all accounts, just a wonderful person.
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Speaker 1: Universally beloved on campus. She worked at a local daycare,
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just incredibly reliable. And on this particular Wednesday evening, it's
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around seven thirty or seven point four five pm, she
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leaves the house of her boyfriend, Dalton Jack to go
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for a routine run.
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Speaker 2: And we should know she was an avid runner, so
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this wasn't like out of character for.
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Speaker 1: Her at all, right, totally normal evening for her. Her
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route took her through the small town grid and then
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out onto a rural paved road known as County Road
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three eighty five.
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Speaker 2: And she's texting her boyfriend pretty much constantly throughout the evening, right,
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yeah she is.
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Speaker 1: But then that communication just abruptly ceases. The digital breadcrumbs
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just stop, and when she doesn't return that night, the
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proverbial hand on the panic button is pressed by her family.
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Speaker 2: Which is completely understandable. But it's interesting because when LA
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enforcement gets a missing person's call, particularly for a young adult,
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they don't immediately assume, you know, a violent abduction, right.
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They have protocols, exactly, They have a statistical baseline they
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work from. The lead investigator on this case, Agent Trent Valifa,
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actually admitted his very first thought was a drug ovigose
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or a mental health crisis.
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Speaker 1: Which I mean to a family member that probably sounds
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so dismissive and harsh, oh absolutely, But from a purely
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analytical standpoint, that's just the statistical reality of police work,
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isn't it like you play the odds?
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Speaker 2: It is the overwhelming majority of missing young adults fall
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into those categories, or you know, they are intentional runaways.
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Speaker 1: They just want to disappear.
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Speaker 2: Right. But as soon as Velitha started pulling Molly's victim profile,
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that statistical safety net just completely.
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Speaker 1: Vanished because she didn't fit the mold at all.
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Speaker 2: Not even a little bit. She was a dedicated student,
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she was highly communicative with her family, no history of
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substance abuse, no history of mental health breaks. Belitha noted
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that the exact moment he realized she broke the mold
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for a standard missing person, the hairs on the back
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of his neck actually stood up.
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Speaker 1: Wow, Because if she didn't run away and she an overdose,
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that really only leaves the most terrifying possibility exactly.
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Speaker 2: It instantly elevated the threat level to a stranger abduction,
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which statistically speaking, is incredibly rare, And because.
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Speaker 1: It's so rare, the FBI is brought in almost immediately.
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The scale of this search just explodes overnight.
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Speaker 2: It is massive.
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Speaker 1: I mean, imagine being the local sheriff of a town
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of fifteen hundred people and suddenly you have federal agents
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setting up command posts everywhere. You've got drones scanning acres
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upon acres of dense Iowa cornfields.
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Speaker 2: Well, logistics of that alone must have been a.
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Speaker 1: Nightmare for sure, Massive aerial searches, satellite trucks from every
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national news network parked right on Main Street, and the
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reward fund ballooms from like one hundred and seventy two
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thousand dollars all the way up to three hundred and
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twenty thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: So the pressure environment is just astronomical. You have an
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entire nation essentially adopting Molly as their own daughter.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone was invested, right, and.
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Speaker 2: They are demanding answers from a local police force that
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is frankly completely un equipped to handle a media circus
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of this magnitude.
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Speaker 1: And here's the core problem they were facing in those
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first few days. It's not just looking for a needle
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in a haystack. I mean, it's like searching a massive
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field of hay when you don't even know if the
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needle is in that specific field, or what the needle
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looks like, or if it ever existed at all.
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Speaker 2: That is a great way to put it, Like, how does.
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Speaker 1: A small town police force avoid getting completely paralyzed by
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that level of intense scrutiny when they have literally zero
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physical evidence to go on, well.
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Speaker 2: They fall back on protocol. But honestly, for the first
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four to five weeks, they are running down leads that
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go absolutely nowhere, just dead ends, constant dead ends. They
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are spinning their wheels. They know she went for a jog.
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They assume she has taken on that jog, but there
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are no witnesses, there's no initial video of an incident.
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It is a complete investigative black hole.
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Speaker 1: But then they focus on a detail that feels almost mundane, right, Yeah,
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but it changes the entire trajectory of the case because
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Mollie was twenty years old, And what is the one
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thing a twenty year old college student never ever leaves behind,
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even when they go for a run in rural Iowa.
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Speaker 2: Her iPhone. I mean, nobody leaves their phone behind. It
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was her constant companion, and it was tracking her every movement,
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her heart rate, her location.
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Speaker 1: Now, when I first read about this in our sources,
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I kind of assumed they sent her digital footprint to
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some high level FBI cyber command center in Quantico. In
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the movies, yeah, but the reality of how they got
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her data is wonderfully analog. The investigators just went down
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to a local Walmart, bought a brand new iPhone of
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the exact same model she had, and simply cloned her phone.
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Speaker 2: It's such a brilliant tactical move. It's so simple but effective.
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Speaker 1: Well wait, how does that actually work? Because if I
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buy a random phone at Walmart, it doesn't just magically
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become someone else's device.
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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 1: And if they had her Apple ID and password, which
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her family provided, why couldn't they just log into iCloud
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on a police computer, Like why do they need the
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physical phone?
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Speaker 2: That's a really great question, and it comes down to
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how digital forensic data is packaged and presented to investigators
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versus how a user sees it on a web browser.
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Speaker 1: Okay, walk me through that.
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Speaker 2: So when you log into iCloud on a computer, you
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get a clean, sanitized view of your photos, your contacts,
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your recent emails, you know, the stuff you interact with,
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but you don't get the raw underlying operating system data.
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Speaker 1: Ah, so the hidden stuff, the background noise.
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Speaker 2: Precisely by buying identical hardware and initiating a full device
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restore using her iCloud backup credentials. The investigators basically force
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the new phone to adopt Molly's exact digital state at
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the time of her last backup. That is wild, it
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really is. It populates all the background apps, the location
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services data, the cash network handshakes. It gives them a
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localized playground to analyze her digital life exactly as she
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experienced it.
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Speaker 1: And without altering the cloud data itself.
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Speaker 2: Exactly which preserves the evidence.
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Speaker 1: And it's within that clone data that they find the
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horrifying timeline we talked about at the very beginning, the
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cell tower pings.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's break down how cell tower triangulation actually works,
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because it's not like GPS, where a satellite pinpoints you
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to the square inch right.
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Speaker 1: It's a bit messier than that.
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Speaker 2: It is. Think of cell towers like giant lighthouses sweeping
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light across a dark ocean, and your phone is a
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tiny ship to stay connected. Your phone is constantly shouting
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out into the dark, Hey, which lighthouse can hear me
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the clearest.
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Speaker 1: And the towers are shouting back.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, and the network records which tower your phone connects to,
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and crucially, the time it takes for that signal to
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travel back and forth.
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Speaker 1: Oh so the timing is the key.
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Speaker 2: Yes. So by analyzing the sequence of those connections along
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County Road three eighty five, investigators could calculate Molly's speed
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of travel.
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Speaker 1: And the data showed her moving at less than ten
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miles per hour, which is a totally normal jogging pace.
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Speaker 2: Right, nothing suspicious there.
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Speaker 1: But then the phone just stopped moving. It hovered in
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one general location for a couple of minutes, and the
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very next time that phone pinged a lighthouse, I mean
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a cell tower, it was traveling in approximately sixty miles
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per hour.
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Speaker 2: That is the abduction. It is right there in the data.
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It's chilling, it really is. That sudden, violent acceleration proves
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she didn't get lost in a cornfield, you know, she
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didn't have a medical emergency and fall in a ditch.
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She was put into a vehicle.
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Speaker 1: But the data only tells them the what not. The
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who like the cell towers don't record license plates, So
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the investigation has to pivot back to standard human police work.
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Speaker 2: Right, shoe leather detective work.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, you have a victim in a vehicle, you start
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with the inner circle and the dead center of Mollie's
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inner circle was her boyfriend, Dalton Jack.
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Speaker 2: This is an incredibly difficult, but necessary phase of any investigation.
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Speaker 1: It has to be off over the family.
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Speaker 2: It is. Mollie's family was telling the police that she
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and Dalton were deeply in love, that she was expecting
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him to propose soon. But law enforcement cannot afford to
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view the world through the rosy lens of a grieving fani.
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Speaker 1: They really can't. They have to turn over every rock,
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and when they turn over Dalton's rocks, they find that
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things weren't as perfect as the family thought.
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Speaker 2: No, there were definitely some cracks.
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Speaker 1: They subpoenaed his text messages and uncovered a recent brief
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affair with another woman. They dug into his teenage years
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and found a history of significant anger issues.
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Speaker 2: Right, he wasn't exactly an angel growing up.
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Speaker 1: When he was sixteen or seventeen, he had a short,
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fused temper at a penchant for getting into fights.
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Speaker 2: It really highlights the brutal, invasive nature of the criminal
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justice system. I mean, when someone you love is taken,
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you don't just lose them, You lose your own privacy.
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Everything is out in the open, everything, every mistake you
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made as an angry teenager. Every bump in your relationship
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is suddenly weaponized by detectives looking for a motive.
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Speaker 1: I have to play devil's advocate here, though. If you
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took anyone's private text messages, their worst relationship moments, and
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the dumb things they did when they were seventeen, couldn't
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literally anyone look like a viable murder suspect on paper?
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Speaker 2: Oh definitely. It's a matter of framing.
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Speaker 1: It feels almost like a confirmation bias trap for the police,
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like you expect the boyfriend to be the killer, so
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you find the flaws to justify the theory.
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Speaker 2: It's a completely valid criticism of police tunnel vision. Investigators
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can absolutely fall victim to finding evidence to fit their narrative,
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but they have a reason for it, right they do.
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The counter to that is pure statistics. In cases of
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abducted or murdered women, the perpetrator is found within the
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inner circle you know, a partner, an ex, a stalker.
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An overwhelming majority of the time, the police focus on
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the boyfriend because history tells them that's where the answer
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usually lies.
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Speaker 1: But in this case, the physical reality of space and
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time trumps the suspicious text messages because Dalton had an
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ironclad alibi.
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Speaker 2: He really did. At the exact time Molly's phone accelerated
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to sixty miles an hour, Dalton Jack was two hours
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away into Buke, Iowa.
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Speaker 1: You can't fake that kind of distance, No, you can't.
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Speaker 2: He was working a road construction job, physically helping to
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repair a bridge over the Missus Sippe River, and his
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entire crew confirmed he was drinking beers with them at
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a hotel afterward. It was a physical impossibility for him
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to be on County Road three eighty.
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Speaker 1: Five, so he is officially cleared. The digital data points
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to a stranger abduction, which is what the hardest type
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of case to solve by far.
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Speaker 2: It's a nightmare scenario.
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Speaker 1: So the investigation hits a massive wall. They spend weeks canvassing,
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knocking on doors, and pleading with the public, until finally
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a piece of private residential hardware gives them the breakthrough
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they desperately need.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, As investigators expanded their canvas, they found a resident
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who had installed a four camera security system covering his
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house and garage, and.
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Speaker 1: When they scrubbed that footage, they caught a grainy, fleeting
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glimpse of a figure that appeared to be a runner.
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The timeline and location matched Molly's route perfectly.
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Speaker 2: That alone was a huge find.
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Speaker 1: But it's what happens next that really breaks the case open.
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A black Chevy Malibu is seen on the video just
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creeping along. It circles the area, going one way, turning around,
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and coming back, all within a few minutes of the
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runner passing by.
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Speaker 2: And this finally provides a tangible target. But here's the problem, right,
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A black Chevy Malibu is arguably one of the most
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ubiquitous common cars on American roads, literally everywhere exactly. If
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you just put out a bee on on the lookout
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for a black Malibu, you're gonna end up pulling over
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half the state of Iowa, which.
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Speaker 1: Is why the granular detail work of the detectives here
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is so impressive to me. The car enthusiast on the
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investigative team blew up the greeny footage and noticed two
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highly specific non factory modifications.
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Speaker 2: Those details are everything you really are.
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Speaker 1: The car had aftermarket chrome mirrors and a non factor
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chrome door handle, so it was customized just enough to
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make it unique.
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Speaker 2: But even with those details, finding one specific modified sedan
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in a massive agricultural state. It's a monumental task. I mean,
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the needle in the haystack is slightly shiny, sure, but
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it's still hidden in the hay.
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Speaker 1: And this is where the sheer, unadulterated luck of police
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work comes into play, because the very next day after
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they identify those specific chrome mirrors on the video, and
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off duty, Shrif's deputy is simply driving home in his
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personal vehicle.
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Speaker 2: You can't script this kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: You really can't, and driving right past him going the
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opposite direction in traffic is a black Chevy Malibu with
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aftermarket chrome mirrors.
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Speaker 2: The statistical probability of that happening of all the roads
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in Iowa at that exact time of day is just staggering.
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Speaker 1: It's mind blowing. The deputy immediately calls Trent Valitha, the
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lead investigator, and asks what do I do? And Valiita
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tells him to just turn around, follow the guy to
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wherever he stops, and ask if he's seen anything related
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to the Molly Tibbet's case. Just a super soft approach.
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Speaker 2: And that soft approach leads them straight to the driver,
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Christian Behina.
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Speaker 1: Rivera Rivera is twenty four years old. He works on
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a massive corporate dairy farm in the area, and when
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we talk about his work schedule, it's grueling.
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Speaker 2: It sounds exhausting.
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Speaker 1: He's putting in twelve hour shifts, sometimes fourteen days in
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a row, dealing with livestock.
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Speaker 2: And crucially for the trajectory of this case, when investigators
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approach him, he informs them that he speaks very little,
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if any, English.
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Speaker 1: Which is a huge hurdle right out of the gate.
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At this point, the investigation has been dragging on for
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over a month. The massive federal presence had largely packed
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up and left because leeds had dried up.
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Speaker 2: The momentum was gone.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, so Valeitha is staring at the most significant breakthrough
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they've ever had. The car from the video a suspect
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who fits the physical profile, but he has an immediate
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crippling language barrier. He needs a fluent Spanish speaking officer,
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and he needs one right now.
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Speaker 2: And this urgency forces Valtha into making one of the
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most fascinating tactical decisions in the entire case. He calls
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in Officer Pamela Romero right now.
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Speaker 1: Romero is an officer with the nearby Iowa City Police Department.
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What's interesting about her profile is that while she is
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older and has great general life experience, she is functionally
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a rookie cop right.
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Speaker 2: She's very green.
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Speaker 1: She has very little, if any experience conducting high stakes
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homicide interrogations.
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Speaker 2: And Valitha later admitted this was entirely a gut call
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on his part. He was putting a rookie patrol officer
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into the driver's seat of the biggest, most high pressure
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interview in the history of the state of Iowa. That
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is a wild risk, it is, but he did it
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solely because she was the most accessible bilingual officer he
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could find in that exact moment.
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Speaker 1: So they bring Rivera into the station and an eleven
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hour interrogation marathon begins.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's dissect the psychology of an eleven hour interrogation room.
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Because it is an absolute endurance test. It's designed to
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break down a suspect's cognitive defenses.
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Speaker 1: It has to be exhausting for everyone involved.
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Speaker 2: It begins around six zero zero PM. Initially, Rivera is
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giving them absolutely nothing. He acknowledges he knows who Molly
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is from the news, but he claims complete ignorance regarding
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her disappearance.
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Speaker 1: He's playing it cool. But Romero is an alone in this. Yeah,
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she has an earpiece or she's taking free, frequent breaks,
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and the senior detectives like the Leitha are watching on
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a monitor right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are orchestrating it from behind the scenes.
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Speaker 1: Feeding her questions, structuring the attack, and they decide to
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play a very specific card. They don't accuse him of murder.
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They just slide a still photograph across the table.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's such a classic move.
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Speaker 1: It's the grainy image from the security camera showing the
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runner and his black Malibu with the chrome mirrors trailing
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closely behind.
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Speaker 2: Her, which is a textbook interrogation technique. You confront the
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suspect with undeniable, localized physical evidence that places them in
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the environment of the crime without explicitly accusing them of
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the crime itself.
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Speaker 1: It's the classic boiling the frog scenario, isn't it exactly
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like if you drop a frog in boiling water, it
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jumps out. If you walk into that room and yo,
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why did you kill her? The suspect shuts down and
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demands a lawyer. The water's too hot.
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Speaker 2: They'll just lawyer up immediately.
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Speaker 1: So Romero just asks him to admit it's his car
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in the photo. He agrees. The water gets a little warmer.
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Then she asks him to admit he saw the runner
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that night. He agrees.
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Speaker 2: It's all about small concessions, right.
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Speaker 1: You slowly turn up the heat, forcing these small admissions
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until he has basically cooked himself in his own narrative.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, and as the story evolves, Rivera drops a detail
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that completely changes the atmosphere in the observation room. He
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casually mentions to Romero that he has a copy of
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Molly's missing person's poster hanging up inside his house.
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Speaker 1: Okay, when I heard that, my stomach just dropped. Why
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would someone do that? The investigators immediately labeled it a
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killer's trophy? Can you explain the psychology behind that?
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Speaker 2: Sure? In forensic psychology, a killer's trophy or a souvenir
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is deeply tied to power and control. Taking a piece
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of jewelry from a victim, or keeping a news clipping,
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or in this case, a missing person's poster allows the
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perpetrator to relive the act that is.
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Speaker 1: So deeply disturbing.
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Speaker 2: It is it helps them maintain a psychological dominance over
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the situation. It's a physical manifestation of their secret knowledge.
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But the investigators hearing that detail was the moment they
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knew with absolute certainty that they had the right guy.
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Speaker 1: Now, before we dive deeper into the late night hours
20:09
of this interrogation, we need to address a significant contextual
20:12
element of this story.
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Speaker 2: Yes we do.
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Speaker 1: It is a matter of public record and it's heavily
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documented and all the sources we reviewed that Christian Behina
20:20
Rivera was an undocumented immigrant from Mexico.
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Speaker 2: And because of that fact, this local tragedy rapidly morphed
20:27
into a massive, highly polarized, nationwide political firestorm.
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Speaker 1: Right and as we continue to break down this deep dive,
20:35
we want to make it very clear that our focus
20:37
remains entirely on the investigated mechanics, the forensic evidence, and
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the legal strategies used in the courtroom.
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Speaker 2: We are just looking at the fact.
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Speaker 1: We are analyzing the procedural timeline of how this mystery
20:48
was unraveled. We are strictly neutral here, simply reporting on
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the sources as they exist.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely so, returning to the interrogation room, we see the
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boiling frog strategy hit a really rigid barrier. Despite the
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slow escalation and the revelation of the poster. As the
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night drags on, Rivera just refuses to cross the final line.
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Speaker 1: He admits he saw her. He admits he thought she
21:11
was attractive and that he turned his car around to
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get a second.
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Speaker 2: Look, but then he stops.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. He claims he lost sight of her, couldn't find her,
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and just drove home.
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Speaker 2: In a story, the detectives in the observation room are frustrated.
21:23
I mean, they've been at this for hours. The psychological
21:26
pressure isn't yielding the location of the body. Rivera then
21:30
introduces a very specific and highly controversial defense mechanism.
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Speaker 1: He claims a memory blackout.
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Speaker 2: He does. He starts telling Romero that he wants to remember.
21:39
He says he knows he is in deep trouble and
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he is trying to force the memories to come out,
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but his mind is just completely blank.
21:46
Speaker 1: And Trent Valetha watching this unfold is entirely dismissive. He
21:51
later called it a standard excuse for bad behavior.
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Speaker 2: Which is a very common police perspective.
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Speaker 1: Let me push you on this, though, because we hear
21:58
about trauma causing memory loss all the time, right, like
22:02
in car accidents or assault, is a blackout during a
22:05
violent crime, ever an actual neurological event, or is Vlaia
22:09
right and it's always just a convenient lie.
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Speaker 2: It's actually one of the most fiercely debated topics in
22:15
criminal psychology. What Rivera is claiming is akin to dissociative amnesia,
22:20
where the brain experiences a trauma so severe that it
22:23
fails to encode the memory properly.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so it is a real thing.
22:26
Speaker 2: While it can theoretically happen usually in cases of extreme
22:29
sudden adrenaline spikes, it is exceedingly rare.
22:32
Speaker 1: So what's the alternative? Like what is usually happening?
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Speaker 2: The alternative is called malingering. That is the clinical term
22:38
for faking a psychological symptom, for secondary game like you know,
22:43
a lighter sentence, or to avoid the shame of vocalizing a.
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Speaker 1: Horrific act, just pretending to forget right.
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Speaker 2: Investigators are trained to view I don't remember, not as
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a medical condition, but as a defensive shield. It's the
22:56
brain's way of distancing the ego from the reality of
23:00
being a monster.
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Speaker 1: And Valetha isn't having it at all. The clock is
23:03
ticking past midnight. They still don't know where Molly is.
23:06
They need to break that shield. Yeah, so the investigators
23:09
play their trump card.
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Speaker 2: This is a major turning point.
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Speaker 1: They pivot away from the murder investigation and weaponize the bureaucracy,
23:16
the federal government.
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Speaker 2: They know Rivera's immigration status, so they bring a phone
23:21
into the interrogation room and put him on the line
23:23
with an agent from IC Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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Speaker 1: That's a huge escalation.
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Speaker 2: They formally mirandize him and they tell him flat out,
23:31
because of your undocumented status, you are being detained. You
23:35
are no longer free to leave this building.
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Speaker 1: They use the threat of deportation as this tactical vice
23:41
grip to lock him in that room. But even as
23:44
they do it, the senior detectors are terrified it's going
23:46
to backfire.
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Speaker 2: Oh, they were sweating.
23:48
Speaker 1: They think dropping the federal hammer on them will just
23:50
make him lawyer up and shut down completely.
23:52
Speaker 2: And this is the critical juncture where the rookie Pamela
23:56
Romero steps up and demonstrates an incredible insight for human psychology.
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Speaker 1: She really shines here.
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Speaker 2: She goes to the senior investigators and asks for one
24:05
more shot. She tells them he likes me. We have
24:08
a rapport let me talk to him, and.
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Speaker 1: They agree, but they orchestrate the oldest most cinematic play
24:14
in the police playbook, Good Cop, Bad Cop. But because
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it's like two point zero or three point in the
24:21
morning and everyone is exhausted, it's incredibly raw.
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Speaker 2: The fatigue in that room must have been palpable.
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Speaker 1: Rivera is slumping in his chair, pulling his hat down
24:29
over his eyes, practically falling asleep from sheer cognitive fatigue.
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Speaker 2: So an FBI agent named Nick enters the room to
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play the bad cop, and he doesn't just ask questions.
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He dominates the physical space. He threatens to get angry.
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Speaker 1: Just getting right in his face.
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Speaker 2: He yells at Rivera to stop playing games, accusing him
24:47
of hiding something he wishes never happened. He creates this
24:50
atmosphere of intense, suffocating pressure and fear.
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Speaker 1: While he is doing this, Pamela Romero is playing the
24:57
ultimate good cop. She's physically comforting Rivera, she is holding
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his hands, she is speaking softly to him in his
25:04
native language.
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Speaker 2: The contrast is key.
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Speaker 1: She appeals to his sense of honor, asking him how
25:09
he wants his family to perceive him. She validates his fear,
25:13
telling him, it is okay to be scared of what happened.
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Speaker 2: It is a brilliant manipulation of psychological attachment. By providing
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this stark, jarring contrast the aggressive, terrifying FBI agent looming
25:24
over him versus the deeply empathetic, almost maternal figure of
25:28
Romero holding his hand, they basically force Rivera to seek safety.
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Speaker 1: Right, he needs a life raft. He needs to offload
25:35
the crushing weight of his guilt, but he is desperately
25:38
searching for a sympathetic vessel to pour it into, and
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Romero makes herself that vessel.
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Speaker 2: It works perfectly.
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Speaker 1: Rivera explicitly tells her that he will tell her everything,
25:47
but only if she keeps the other guys out of.
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Speaker 2: The room, and so, left alone with Romero speaking entirely
25:52
in Spanish, the dam finally breaks.
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Speaker 1: Rivera confesses. He admits that he followed Molly. He says
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he found her attractive, describing her as hot. He admits
26:03
to getting out of his car and running alongside her,
26:05
and when she threatened to call the police, he admits
26:07
to getting angry and fighting with her, and.
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Speaker 2: Then he claims the memory blackout happened again.
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Speaker 1: Right, He says he doesn't remember how he killed her,
26:15
but he remembers coming too and realizing he had placed
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her bloody body into the trunk of his Malibu.
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Speaker 2: He then tells Ramera that he drove to a secluded
26:23
area and carried her into a cornfield.
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Speaker 1: At four thirty five am, the theoretical discussion ends, the
26:29
interrogation moves out of the police station and into the
26:32
real world. Rivera's placed in a police vehicle and he
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guides a convoy of investigators through the pre dawn darkness
26:39
deep into a muddy, Iowa cornfield and points to the
26:42
exact location.
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Speaker 2: The crime scene is horrific. Molly's body was badly decomposed
26:46
due to the intense summer heat hidden beneath the dense cornstalks.
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Speaker 1: It's so sad.
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Speaker 2: The sources note that the only things immediately visible were
26:54
her brightly colored running shoes, and the physical evidence at
26:57
the scene, specifically, the state of her clothing strongly indicated
27:01
a sexual assault had occurred prior to her.
27:03
Speaker 1: Death, and with the discovery of the body, the forensic
27:06
floodgates open. The crime lab processes Rivera's Chevy Malibu. Deep
27:12
inside the trunk, they find blood. They extract DNA and
27:16
it is a definitive match for Molly Tibbets.
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Speaker 2: From a prosecutorial standpoint, this is the holy grail. I mean,
27:21
you have a suspect who fits the timeline. You have
27:24
the vehicle caught on.
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Speaker 1: Video going aligns perfectly.
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Speaker 2: You have a detailed confession outlining the motive and the method.
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You have the victim's body exactly where the suspects said
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it would be, and you have the victor's DNA inside
27:36
the suspect's property.
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Speaker 1: He is the perfect, impenetrable package, case closed, wrap it
27:41
in a bow, and send it to trial, right up.
27:43
Speaker 2: Until the moment the prosecutors realize there is a fatal,
27:45
catastrophic flaw buried inside that perfect package.
27:49
Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting. A massive legal error
27:53
made hours earlier in that sweaty interrogation room threatens to
27:57
unravel the entire conviction before the trial even begins. The
28:01
prosecutors discovered that the Miranda warning given to Rivera was
28:05
completely botched.
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Speaker 2: This is a phenomenal example of how the machinery of
28:09
justice can just break down on a simple translation error.
28:13
Speaker 1: Let's drill into this because people hear miranda rights on
28:15
TV all the time. Yeah, you know, you have the
28:17
right to remain silent. How do you botch it? What
28:20
exactly did Romero, the rookie officer translating on the fly,
28:24
say incorrectly? So?
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Speaker 2: The Fifth Amendment protects against self incrimination, and the Supreme
28:29
Court ruling in Miranda Vie Arizona requires police to clearly
28:33
inform a suspect of specific rights before a custodial interrogation.
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Speaker 1: Right the standard warning, you have the right.
28:39
Speaker 2: To remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you.
28:42
You have the right to an attorney, and crucially, if
28:44
you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for
28:46
you prior to any questioning.
28:48
Speaker 1: Ah. The timing is the key.
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Speaker 2: Yes, when translating complex legal concepts dynamically, precision is everything.
28:56
While the exact phrasing Romero used was debated in pre trial,
28:59
most the core issue arises when an officer implies that
29:03
a lawyer will be appointed later, like at a court date,
29:06
exactly like at a future court date, rather than making
29:09
it explicitly clear that the suspect has the right to
29:11
halt the current interrogation immediately until a free lawyer is
29:14
present in the room. Because Romero's warning lacked that strict
29:18
legal clarity. The judge ruled that Rivera was not properly
29:21
advised of his constitutional rights.
29:23
Speaker 1: Which triggers the exclusionary rule the fruit the poisonous tree exactly.
29:27
Speaker 2: The legal ramifications are absolute and devastating for the state
29:31
because the warning was flawed. Absolutely nothing Christian Behina Rivera
29:35
said during that entire eleven hour teaped interrogation can be
29:38
shown to the jury.
29:39
Speaker 1: Wait, really, nothing, at all.
29:41
Speaker 2: Nothing. The prosecution cannot mention his admission of following her,
29:45
fighting with her, or putting her in his trunk. It's
29:47
all gone.
29:48
Speaker 1: I cannot fathom the sheer panic of the lead prosecutor,
29:51
Scott Brown, sitting in his office, realizing that as signed
29:55
recorded confession to a brutal murder has just vanished into
29:59
thin air. He has to completely rebuild his narrative for
30:02
the jury.
30:02
Speaker 2: He is forced to pivot to a three pillared strategy.
30:06
Pillar one is the circumstantial video evidence of the black
30:09
Malibu circling the neighborhood. Pillar two is the undeniable hard
30:13
forensic science of Molly's blood in the trunk, and pillar
30:17
three relies on a very narrow legal.
30:19
Speaker 1: Loophole, which is what happened out in the cornfield.
30:22
Speaker 2: Correct. When Rivera led the police to the body, investigators
30:25
on the scene, realizing the gravity of the moment, reread
30:28
him his Miranda rights, and this time they did it perfectly.
30:32
Oh wow, because he waved his right skin out in
30:34
the field and continued to talk, making further admissions about
30:36
hiding the body. Those specific statements survived legal scrutiny.
30:41
Speaker 1: So the state has a sliver of a confession, some video,
30:44
and the DNA. It's strong, but it's no longer a
30:47
slam dunk. The doors cracked open just enough for the
30:51
defense to try and kick it down, and Rivera is
30:54
represented by a husband and wife legal powerhouse, Chad and
30:57
Jennifer Frees.
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Speaker 2: And their strategy from the the very first minute of
31:01
the trial is highly aggressive, deeply unorthodox, and purely designed
31:05
to exploit the chaos.
31:07
Speaker 1: It starts right after jury selection. The judge calls for
31:10
opening statements. The prosecutor, Scott Bround, stands up and delivers
31:13
a comprehensive roadmap of the state's case. He tells the
31:16
jury exactly what evidence they will see and what it means,
31:18
and then it's the defense's turn. Chad and Jennifer Free
31:21
stand up and simply say we reserve our opening statement, which.
31:24
Speaker 2: Is a massive, high stakes gamble.
31:27
Speaker 1: As a lawyer, aren't you terrified of letting the prosecution
31:30
paint the entire picture of your client as a monster
31:32
for weeks while you sit there silently like, why on
31:35
earth would you wave your right to speak to the
31:36
jury first.
31:37
Speaker 2: It's a battle between the psychological principles of primacy and recency.
31:42
Primacy bias says, the jury remembers the first thing they hear.
31:45
By deferring, the defense allows the state to dominate that
31:49
first impression, which seems bad. It does. However, the tactical
31:53
advantage is information control. If the defense gives an opening statement,
31:58
they lock themselves into a specific narrative. By deferring, they
32:02
keep the prosecution completely blind.
32:04
Speaker 1: Oh so the state has no idea what's coming.
32:07
Speaker 2: The state doesn't know what the defense's theory of the cases,
32:10
which makes it incredibly difficult for the prosecutor to preemptively
32:13
counter their arguments during the presentation of evidence.
32:16
Speaker 1: It's the legal equivalent of a ropodobe. You let the
32:19
state punch themselves out presenting their case, and you wait
32:22
to see where the holes are before.
32:23
Speaker 2: You strike exactly. And when the state calls their very
32:26
first witness, Dalton Jack, Molly's boyfriend, the defense strikes hard.
32:31
Speaker 1: Their cross examination of Dalton is relentless. They don't just
32:34
question his memory that night, they launch a full scale
32:37
assault on his character. They stand in front of the
32:40
jury and bring up the he had They forced this
32:43
grieving young man to admit on the stand that he
32:45
had a short, fused temper and like to solve problems
32:48
with his fists.
32:49
Speaker 2: The defense even introduces private text messages Dalton had sent
32:53
to Molly months earlier, where he dramatically referred to himself
32:56
as clinically insane and warned her that his temper made
32:59
him dangerous.
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Speaker 1: Is brutal to watch, But I have to challenge this
33:04
strategy because the defense knows they cannot easily explain away
33:08
the fact that Molly's DNA is soaked into the trunk
33:11
lining of their client's car. No, that's a huge problem
33:14
for them, So their tactical goal is to create reasonable
33:16
doubt by putting the victim's boyfriend on trial. They want
33:19
the jury looking at Dalton Jack and wondering did this
33:22
angry kid snap and kill his girlfriend. But how do
33:25
you reconcile that? Like, if Dalton did it, how did
33:28
the blood get in Rivera's car?
33:30
Speaker 2: You've hit on the exact tightrope that defense is walking.
33:33
It feels inherently contradictory. But in a criminal defense trial,
33:38
the burden of proof is entirely on the state. The
33:41
defense is not legally required to prove an alternative theory,
33:45
nor do their alternative theories even have to perfectly align
33:48
with one another. They don't have to prove Dalton did it.
33:51
They just have to throw enough mud into the water
33:53
to obscure the state's clear narrative. If even one jur
33:56
looks at Dalton and thinks maybe he was involved, that
34:00
is reasonable doubt.
34:01
Speaker 1: They employ a similar muddying tactic against Officer Pamela Romero.
34:05
When she takes the stand, The defense goes after her
34:07
lack of experience. They ask her to define a false
34:10
confession for the jury, and she really struggles to articulate
34:14
the concept.
34:15
Speaker 2: The defense plays sped up video clips of the eleven
34:17
hour interrogation. Even though they can't play the audio of
34:20
the confession due to the miranda violation, they can show
34:23
the jury the visual reality of that room, so.
34:25
Speaker 1: They can see how exhausted he looks.
34:27
Speaker 2: Yes, they show Rivera exhausted, slumping, pulling his hat over
34:31
his face, appearing to fall asleep.
34:33
Speaker 1: They are painting a visceral picture of a coercive environment.
34:38
They want the jury to believe that this exhausted, overworked
34:41
immigrant was badgered by federal agents in the middle of
34:44
the night until he simply agreed to whatever the police
34:47
wanted him to say, just so he could finally close
34:49
his eyes.
34:50
Speaker 2: But the defense wasn't just relying on throwing mud at
34:53
the boyfriend and the rookie cop. All of this was
34:56
merely setting the stage for a cinematic courtroom twist that
35:00
absolutely no one saw coming.
35:02
Speaker 1: Remember how the defense deferred their opening statement, how they
35:06
kept their strategy a total secret. When it is finally
35:10
time for the defense to present their case, they spring
35:13
a massive surprise. They call Christian Behina Rivera to the
35:17
witness stand.
35:18
Speaker 2: To understand the gravity of this, you have to understand
35:20
the Fifth Amendment. In a trial setting, a defendant is
35:23
never required to testify, and the jury is explicitly instructed
35:27
not to hold their silence against them, Which makes sense
35:29
putting a murder defendant on the stand is widely considered
35:32
the ultimate hail Mary in criminal defense.
35:34
Speaker 1: Because the moment he sits in that chair and takes
35:36
the oath, he waives his Fifth Amendment protection against self incrimination.
35:41
He opens himself up to cross examination by a prosecutor
35:44
who has spent three years studying every piece of evidence
35:48
against him.
35:49
Speaker 2: It is a phenomenal risk. You only do it if
35:51
you believe your client's testimony is the absolute only possible
35:54
way to explain away the physical evidence.
35:57
Speaker 1: And Rivera gets on the stand, speaking through an interpreter,
36:00
and tells a completely new, wild story that had never
36:03
been uttered in the nearly three years since Molly was murdered.
36:06
Speaker 2: He looks at the jury and claims that he didn't
36:08
kill Mollie. He testifies that on the night of July eighteenth,
36:12
he was sitting in his black Malibu when two armed
36:15
men wearing ski masks and heavy sweaters suddenly ambushed him.
36:18
Wait yeah, he says. They held weapons on him and
36:21
forced him to drive. He claims they directed him down
36:24
County Road three eighty five, past Mollie, who was out jogging.
36:27
Speaker 1: Okay.
36:28
Speaker 2: According to Rivera, one of the masked men ordered him
36:30
to stop, got out of the car, grabbed Mollie, stabbed her,
36:34
and threw her bloody body into the trunk of Rivera's car.
36:37
Speaker 1: He then testifies that these mysterious masked men ordered him
36:41
at gunpoint to drive to the secluded cornfield, and once
36:45
they arrived, according to Rivera's testimony, the two armed killers
36:49
simply got out of the car, ran away towards the
36:51
road and disappeared forever, leaving him alone in the dark
36:55
with the victim's body in his trunk.
36:57
Speaker 2: He claims he was terrified they would kill his family,
36:59
hit the body in the cornstalks himself, and never told anyone.
37:03
Speaker 1: This is insane.
37:04
Speaker 2: But here is the absolute kicker of this eleventh hour story.
37:08
Rivera claims that while he didn't know who these masked
37:10
men were, he clearly remembers that one of them referred
37:13
to the other by the name Jack.
37:15
Speaker 1: The implication being as subtle as a sledgehammer that the
37:19
mask killer was Dalton Jack exactly. It is stunning. The
37:22
audacity of the story just takes the air out of
37:24
the courtroom. But then the prosecutor, Scott Brown, gets his
37:28
turn on cross examination, and he absolutely shreds this narrative.
37:32
He stands in front of the jury and calls it
37:34
exactly what it sounds like, one of the biggest fish
37:36
stories he has ever heard in his career.
37:38
Speaker 2: The prosecutor doesn't just attack Rivera's credibility, he attacks the
37:42
fundamental logic of the story. He hammers Rivera on the
37:46
sheer physical absurdity of the tale.
37:49
Speaker 1: Right because think about the logistics of this line. Why
37:52
would two heavily armed killers decide to hijack a random
37:56
stranger's car to commit a murder? Why would they kidnap
37:59
a woman, put her in the stranger's trunk, have him
38:02
drive them to a cornfield, and then just run away
38:04
on foot.
38:05
Speaker 2: It defies all common sense. Why would professional killers leave
38:08
the driver, a perfect eyewitness to their crime, alive, with
38:12
the victim's body, the murder weapon, and the getaway vehicle.
38:16
It is a narrative built entirely out of.
38:18
Speaker 1: Desperation, and the prosecutor uses his closing arguments to brutally
38:22
bring the jury back down to reality. He tells them
38:25
not to decide the case based on cinematic twists or
38:27
emotional heartstrings. He forces them to look at the cold,
38:30
hard physical.
38:31
Speaker 2: Evidence, Rivera's car circling the runner on the video, Mollie's
38:35
blood pooled in Rivera's trunk, and the tragic reality of
38:39
her body found exactly where Rivera led the police.
38:42
Speaker 1: The defense, in their closing has no choice but to
38:45
lean entirely into the doubt they tried to sew. They
38:49
point back to Rivera's exhaustion during the interrogation, implying the
38:52
real killers framed him and the police were too eager
38:55
to close the case to notice.
38:56
Speaker 2: But it's a tough cell.
38:58
Speaker 1: I have to wonder about the psychology of jury here though.
39:01
You're sitting in a jury box for days, diligently taking notes,
39:05
listening to complex forensic testimony, and then at the very end,
39:09
the defending gets up and spins this wildly improbable story
39:13
about mysterious ninja assassins named Jack. As a juror, does
39:18
a lie that big, that insulting to your intelligence actually
39:22
anger you? Does it make you convict faster than if
39:24
you had just sat there silently?
39:26
Speaker 2: It absolutely can. The concept of reasonable doubt is subjective.
39:29
When a jury feels that a defendant is actively trying
39:32
to manipulate them or treating them as if they are
39:34
stupid that threshold of reasonable doubt can suddenly feel much
39:37
easier for the prosecution to clear.
39:39
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense.
39:40
Speaker 2: A simple denial leaves room for what if? A desperate,
39:44
easily disproven, insulting lie often cements guilt in the minds
39:48
of a jury far more firmly than the forensic evidence alone.
39:52
Speaker 1: The jury receives the case and deliberates for seven nerve
39:56
wracking hours spread over two days. The tension in that rural,
40:00
Iowa courthouse must have been suffocating for both families.
40:03
Speaker 2: Ultimately, the verdict was delivered. Christian Behina Rivera was found
40:07
guilty of first degree murder.
40:08
Speaker 1: The sentencing was absolute life in prison without the possibility
40:13
of parole. During the sentencing hearing, the judge looked directly
40:16
at Rivera and explicitly told him that he and he
40:19
alone made the horrific decision that forever changed the lives
40:22
of everyone who loved Molly Tibbets.
40:24
Speaker 2: The gabble falls, ending the legal battle, but the impact
40:27
on Brooklyn, Iowa and the broader nation is permanent.
40:31
Speaker 1: Molly's legacy is fiercely protected by her family and her community.
40:34
They have worked incredibly hard to ensure that when people
40:37
hear the name Molly Tibbets, she is remembered for how
40:39
she lived with joy, compassion, and a dedication to others,
40:43
not the horrific way she died.
40:44
Speaker 2: The community actually dedicated a statue in her honor, and beautifully,
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the artwork of children, the very demographics she had hoped
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to dedicate her life's work to as a child psychologist,
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is now permanently displayed near the place where she was killed.
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Speaker 1: That's a really nice tribute.
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Speaker 2: It is a profound attempt by a community to bring
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light and life back to a space that was stained
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by incredible darkness.
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Speaker 1: It is a powerful testament to her spirit. And when
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you look back at this entire deep dive, it is
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almost dizzying to trace the chain of events that led
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to that courtroom.
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Speaker 2: You go from the frantic, terrified search through the cornfields
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by a small town, to the microscopic digital footprint of
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a cell phone accelerating from ten to sixty miles.
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Speaker 1: An hour, then to a fleeting, grainy image caught on
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a private doorbell camera, to the grueling psychological endurance test
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between a rookie cop and a suspect in the middle
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of the night, to a botched legal warning that nearly
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derailed the whole thing, and finally to the wild, desperate
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theatrics of a defense strategy on the witness stand.
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Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable journey.
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Speaker 1: So what does this all mean?
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Speaker 2: Well, if we pull all the way back and look
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at the bigger picture of this investigation, it leaves us
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with a lingering thought that we haven't directly discussed yet.
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Think about the sheer, staggering level of chance involved in
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solving this case.
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Speaker 1: The luck of it all.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Mollie's specific running route, that evening, the exact minute
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by minute timing of a random homeowner security camera catching
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that black Malibu, the off duty deputy who just happened
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to be driving home on the right road at the
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right time the very nurse day, and spotted those specific
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aftermarket chrome mirrors.
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Speaker 1: Without any single one of those completely random occurrences aligning perfectly,
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this case might never have been solved exact. The digital
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data alone wouldn't have found the car. The car alone
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wouldn't have found the body exactly.
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Speaker 2: It makes you wonder, in our hyper connected modern world
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of iCloud tracking, digital footprints, and ubiquitous home camera surveillance.
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We assume getting away with the crime is truly a
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thing of the past, but does justice still ultimately rely
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on the oldest, most unpredictable tool in the detective's handbook,
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sheer unbelievable luck. Let that sit with you for a while.
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Speaker 1: Remember where we started the idea that we want the
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justice system to run like a well oiled machine. We
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want the digital fingerprint to just spit out a name
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and close the case cleanly. But this investigation proves that
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the machinery is incredibly fragile. It relies on rookies trusting
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their guts in the middle of the night, on prosecutors
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scrambling to survive legal missteps, and yes, on the sheer
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luck of a passing car in rural Iowa. The diagnostic
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waters of a real investigation are always money, but sometimes, thankfully,
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the truth still manages to surface through the mud. Thank
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you for joining us on this deep dive.