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Brittney - Chupta Podcast on addiction, recovery mental health and plenty of laughs along the way · Aired Out

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  Speaker 1: no matter where you are, especially in Burlington, which is
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  Speaker 1: We're just closing down for the summer, but man, it
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  Speaker 1: is a mess in Burlington. This morning, I have the
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  Speaker 1: lovely Brittany with me on the air at this I
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  Speaker 1: am so happy to have and have just met you
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  Speaker 1: just like minutes ago. Yep, this is so cool, my god. Welcome,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to air it out, welcome to our family here,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm so glad to meet you, to chat with
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  Speaker 1: you a little bit. And I've only chatted with you
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  Speaker 1: like like a week, yeah, like a week and probably
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  Speaker 1: for like a total of less than fifteen men.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we recently found out that you know
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  Speaker 2: some of my family.
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  Speaker 1: Recently just found out like recently within like a minute
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  Speaker 1: before we went on the air. I'm so happy to
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  Speaker 1: meet you. You are a very interesting woman.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's an understatement.
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  Speaker 1: Wow? Is that an understatement? And you reached out to
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  Speaker 1: me and you've introduced me to who you are and
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  Speaker 1: what you're about and why you reached out to me.
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  Speaker 1: And the bottom line is is that you and your
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  Speaker 1: cohort Becca have decided to start up a podcast, So
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  Speaker 1: of course that spikes my curiosity and I'm like, wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, who the hell are Who the hell are you? Guys?
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  Speaker 1: Where are you from? What's going on? Are you hearing Vermont?
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  Speaker 1: And you're down near in Brandon? Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm in Brandon and she is in Hardwick?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Oh she's in Hardwick? Yeah? Really? So you have
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  Speaker 1: roots right here in Barry Central, Vermont, yep went to
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  Speaker 1: high school where? So?
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  Speaker 2: I started high school at Spalding, but then I graduated
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  Speaker 2: in Montpillier High School.
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  Speaker 1: All right, how long ago?
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  Speaker 2: Twenty twelve?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, your your friend Becca? What's her deal? Did she
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  Speaker 1: go to school with you?
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  Speaker 2: No? Actually she went to you thirty two. We actually
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  Speaker 2: became friends.
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  Speaker 1: You were friends with someone who went to you thirty two?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, we had the same friend group, but never
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  Speaker 2: like our paths never crossed until I was pregnant with
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  Speaker 2: my second son. So about eight years ago, okay, was
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  Speaker 2: when we became friends through my foster family. That's how
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  Speaker 2: I met her. Your foster family, yes, one of many
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  Speaker 2: you were fostered. Yes, I went into the foster system
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  Speaker 2: when I was twelve.
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  Speaker 1: When you were twelve, healthy er sould my god, do
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  Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about? Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy, right, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, So you so you and Becca started saying whose
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  Speaker 1: idea was it to start up a damn podcast? Whose
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  Speaker 1: brilliant idea?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it was mine? Yeah, but I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: she also had some part in it too. Yeah. We
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  Speaker 2: are always the light of the party wherever we go.
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  Speaker 2: We're loud, obnoxious, we say what's on our mind, no filter,
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  Speaker 2: super inappropriate, beautiful, and we cope with hard things with comedy.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what we want to right, So that's what
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  Speaker 2: we want to give to our community. We are also
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  Speaker 2: an active recovery ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: Both of you, yes, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, And we want to spread the word that you're
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  Speaker 2: not alone, you know, and it doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 2: dark and gloomy and sad and depressing.
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  Speaker 1: There's a whole hell of a lot of doom scrolling
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  Speaker 1: it these days, isn't there?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my god, Yeah, it's so easy to find.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had to stop with Facebook for a while,
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  Speaker 2: but then we started the podcast, so I obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 2: have to get the word out somehow. Sure, now I'm
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  Speaker 2: back on and it's yeah, doom scrolling.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's a ride, though, isn't it. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a ride. Yeah, And it's it's constant. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you can kind of you can get away from it,
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  Speaker 1: but not for very long. And no, yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 1: believe me. I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's crazy because I like, I enjoyed TikTok. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And it's like a potato chip. You cannot just have one.
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  Speaker 2: You got to have the whole damn bag.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, of course, so so, so you and Becca
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  Speaker 1: are both in recovery, yes, And how long have each
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  Speaker 1: of you? Are you guys on the kind of the
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  Speaker 1: same page? Are you about the same timeline here?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's different. I don't want to speak her
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  Speaker 2: story because well, that's I'm probably going to suck it up.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be honest.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: But I've been sober for four fourish years off hard
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  Speaker 2: substances and about two years alcohol.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Courtney, this young lady here with us has a
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  Speaker 1: remarkable story, and she is taking her life experiences some really,
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest, bad decisions and trying to really turn
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  Speaker 1: things around. It's one thing to be sober. But it's
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  Speaker 1: a whole other thing to take that sobriety and turn
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  Speaker 1: it into a very public, clearly displayed Ah what am
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  Speaker 1: I trying to say? Uh, you're very vulnerable by by
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  Speaker 1: taking your message and putting it out there transparently for
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  Speaker 1: for all of us too to see and to hear.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that takes some mads. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: don't do that. They get if they get, if they
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  Speaker 1: get to the point of sobriety and and they've they've
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  Speaker 1: conquered that, they just want to get on with it
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  Speaker 1: and and quietly live life and maybe start over maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But you guys are like hanging it
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  Speaker 1: right there on the on the on the blinds and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: here we are, this is what we've done, and we're
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  Speaker 1: we want to help, we want to help you, but
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  Speaker 1: we also want to laugh about it too. Yeah. That's
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  Speaker 1: interesting to me because this is a not a laughable subject. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, you're both very serious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys are a bunch of goofballs. Oh god, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So you have to it's all my You have to
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  Speaker 1: bring that into allow that to be part of your
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  Speaker 1: natural personality when you ye, when you did you put
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  Speaker 1: out your message? Have to So you guys decided you're
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  Speaker 1: going to start this podcast called the chupp To Podcast. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: audio only for now.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we're dipping our toes in the podcasting world. We
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  Speaker 2: want to you know, obviously do video, do lives too.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell I'm doing and I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to navigate it on a laptop. And my wonder
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  Speaker 2: full husband got me a starter kit for a podcast. Yeah, wow,
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  Speaker 2: for my anniversary present. Thanks, Henny, I see you.
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  Speaker 1: It's so cool. That's so cool. Yeah, he's Joseph. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: he's locked in right here. All right. That's so awesome though,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's so great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And we just grabbed the bull by the horn
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  Speaker 2: and we jumped on and we just did it. And
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  Speaker 2: the first one sounds terrible. It was like it was
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  Speaker 2: a learning curve, that's for sure. But you got to
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  Speaker 2: start somewhere, of course. So we figured just put it
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  Speaker 2: out there and we'll see how it goes.
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  Speaker 1: You guys had me laughing within the first minute. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, you just said to me a little while ago,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, we don't edit.
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  Speaker 2: Anything, No, we don't. We push record and go straight
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  Speaker 2: through and hope for the best. We like the we
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  Speaker 2: like it to be.
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  Speaker 1: Raw, yes, real raw, relevant related those those are the
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  Speaker 1: four urs that I try to hang my hat on
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, give give as a as a
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  Speaker 1: defining foundation of aired out. But yeah, man, it's and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, that's the way to do it. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: ver honors, I say Ver Honors, but really anybody. They
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  Speaker 1: people tend to appreciate that because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: highly edited, finely polished, yeah post produced content out there everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: But if you guys are doing like what I'm doing,
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  Speaker 1: and you're just letting, letting the mics go hot and
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  Speaker 1: let fly, there's something to be said about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't. We don't want to look perfect because
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  Speaker 2: well we're not. We're very far from perfect. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, take it or leave it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, that's so cool. So you did
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  Speaker 1: you cut your second podcast episode last night?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: On Spotify?
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  Speaker 2: Yep, you can find us on Spotify.
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  Speaker 1: When we look for you on Spotify. What do we
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  Speaker 1: type in?
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  Speaker 2: Just ch chop to h u p T A okay,
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  Speaker 2: chapter as in like what'schep to?
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  Speaker 1: So that was one of my big questions this morning.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you noticed, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: ask you that over the phone because I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get the answer. Is that what that's about? Yes? Chapter?
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  Speaker 2: Chapter?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god? So what are you going to do
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  Speaker 1: with this podcast? What do you what's what are you
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about? I mean, I'm curious.
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  Speaker 2: So we our goal is to talk about recovery and
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  Speaker 2: even active addiction, to let people know that you're not
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  Speaker 2: alone in these feelings, and it's you know, to validate people.
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  Speaker 2: And also to talk about mental health. Wow, that's something
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  Speaker 2: we both struggle with too.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, everybody does just gonna say. It's like, honestly, who
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  Speaker 1: the hell doesn't really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and it's crazy because it is in
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  Speaker 2: a bigger light now, but it's still kind of hush
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  Speaker 2: hush not to talk about sure, And.
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  Speaker 1: It's that's our society is so fucked up. We we
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  Speaker 1: you know, we we stigmatize everything, everything, and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us we just have we have pride that gets
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  Speaker 1: in the way, we have ego that gets in the way,
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  Speaker 1: we have a we have a lot of things that
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  Speaker 1: get in the way. But we need a lot of
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  Speaker 1: us just need to keep up with the Joneses, or
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  Speaker 1: we we just have to give a different persona that
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  Speaker 1: we're good. We're good, we're successful, and it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: just not the reality. I mean, a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: are carrying around stuff. We're carrying around weight that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of other people don't know about and don't see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's our little motto for our podcast is
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  Speaker 2: you're not alone. We're all fucked up.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yes, God, that's so true. Yeah, And I heard
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  Speaker 1: you guys saying that on your first podcast. Is that,
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  Speaker 1: in some way or another, who doesn't have a fucked
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  Speaker 1: up family right now? I mean it's like.
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  Speaker 2: God, or friendships or or relationships.
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  Speaker 1: Or yeah, I know, I know, you know. It's we're
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  Speaker 1: not all the Brady bunch man.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, man, it'd be nice, though.
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  Speaker 1: It would be nice, but it's just not. It's so
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  Speaker 1: far from reality. So you guys are taking your message
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  Speaker 1: of hey, let's all be fucked up together, let's let's
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  Speaker 1: maybe even share a laugh about it and goof around, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and and try to have some fun. But also there's
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  Speaker 1: you're incorporating a real serious message behind some of your content,
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  Speaker 1: and I think going forward, you're going to be injecting
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  Speaker 1: a whole hell of a lot of that, which is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, be a goof be funny. But if you
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  Speaker 1: make a bad decision, or if you're currently making bad decisions,
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  Speaker 1: don't don't believe that that's who you are and that
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  Speaker 1: you need to continue to uphold that you can make
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  Speaker 1: some Really I don't want to speak for you, which
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  Speaker 1: is what I'm doing, but you don't. You don't. You
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  Speaker 1: can make some really good decisions and still not lose
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  Speaker 1: your goofy personality. As as someone who's like you said,
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  Speaker 1: the light of the party.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that when I was using and drinking
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  Speaker 2: that people enjoyed me more that I was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: more interesting in that people wanted something to do with me.
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  Speaker 2: But in all reality, it was just that filter was
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  Speaker 2: gone and it got sober and just realized, I mean
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  Speaker 2: both back and I realized like we are pretty fucking funny,
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  Speaker 2: Like we don't need we don't need substances to to
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  Speaker 2: bring our light out. That that was quite a journey.
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  Speaker 2: It took me a long time to do some self
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  Speaker 2: healing because like growing up, I was always told stop
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  Speaker 2: making those faces and that's not funny to joke about
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  Speaker 2: or shit like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and Beca kind of has to be on the
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  Speaker 1: same page as Hugh. You guys to be able to
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  Speaker 1: do this, you both need to like seriously relate to
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  Speaker 1: each other.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and we do. I always joked that if
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  Speaker 2: she was a man, I'd probably marry her, but really,
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  Speaker 2: but then I found my lovely husband, so sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Becca Beca says we're about accountability, responsibility and taking those
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  Speaker 1: experiences to change, learn, laugh about it, and move forward.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely beautifully said right there, I'm proud of you guys already.
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  Speaker 1: For for anyone who is willing to be so transparent
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  Speaker 1: and bring this to a podcast, it's podcasting is it's
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  Speaker 1: an interesting relationship that you have.
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  Speaker 2: It's a weird art form.
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  Speaker 1: It's a weird art form, and it's something that you
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  Speaker 1: can't There's a lot of people that say I'm gonna,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start up a podcast and either never do
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  Speaker 1: or they started up and a week or two. When
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: you have to be really committed to it and always
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: be looking for some fresh content and keeping the edge sharp.
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  Speaker 1: And that's yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like we always have something to talk about,
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  Speaker 2: and we talk about some stupid things. If you if
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  Speaker 2: you're a prude. Don't yeah, oh yeah, don't tune in. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: not your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: No, there will be farting in microphones, cussing like sailors,
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  Speaker 2: and talking about just everything in life, everything and anything
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  Speaker 2: in life, things that you would talk about with your
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  Speaker 2: best friend right in their living room, you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: but we don't want to hide it.
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  Speaker 1: It's next level. It's I think that's I think that's great. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And why why the hell not? You know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many people out there that are scrolling the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: same ship on their phone, watching the same stuff on
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  Speaker 1: TV or Netflix or whatever they're watching. Fashen it up.
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  Speaker 1: Find something that's that's unique, that's different. You get two
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Vermont girls who are not even in the same town,
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  Speaker 1: and you're coming together through this podcast and trying to
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: reach out to not only entertain but also give some
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  Speaker 1: inspiration to you. Can you can conquer this and still,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, keep your goofy party type personality. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome. How How often is this? How often is
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  Speaker 1: this podcast?
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  Speaker 2: So our goal is to do every two weeks. But
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  Speaker 2: Becca had to go on a work trip to Philly,
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  Speaker 2: so okay, and she just came back so we got
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  Speaker 2: to do it last night. We like to do it
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  Speaker 2: probably more often, but we're you know, we also have
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  Speaker 2: jobs and kids and you know, lives.
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  Speaker 1: So of course. And it's going to be on Spotify.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's on Spotify. We also have a Facebook page.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to ask you that, which is
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  Speaker 1: called what.
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  Speaker 2: The chp to podcast?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: The chop to podcast?
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  Speaker 2: I'm certain, let me double check.
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  Speaker 1: Beca's making sure right now. So where the hell is Becca?
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  Speaker 2: Becca? She had to take her dad to a really
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: important doctor's appointment. Okay, so she wasn't able to make
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  Speaker 2: it in.
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  Speaker 1: Is she going to get in here at some point?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, all right, we're going to be doing regular
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  Speaker 2: checkups here just so we're gonna move in.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine. So she'll be coming down from hard Wreck.
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  Speaker 1: You'll be coming up from from Brand Brandon.
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  Speaker 2: Ye, all right, which is good because we like, i
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: mean obviously meet up with each other.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So you're familiar with this area.
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  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Yeah. This is where I grew up.
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  Speaker 1: This is where you grew up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was born in Brockton, Massachusetts. Okay, and then my
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  Speaker 2: mother and I moved here when I was like five.
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  Speaker 2: My grandmother lives up in Highgate. I grew up in Highgate. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: my grandmother's still there, it's been like twenty something years.
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  Speaker 1: Really, you're gonna go out and see her today?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: If I don't, she might be upset.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: And she locked in with us this one.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she is. Yeah, she was asking what
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: time I was going to be on Hi, Grandma.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: So that's so, that's so cool. So you you you
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: know this town?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think of of what you're you're
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: seeing and hearing about what you have heard about, but
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and and experienced, but what you're seeing these days, not
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: just Barry, but but also Montpellier, all of Central from Mot.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad, honestly, it's it's really sad to see
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: people that I grew up with just kind of dropping
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: like flies, unfortunately because of this crazy epidemic that we're in.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: And I count my blessings every day that I got
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: out when I did, because that's it's it's tough.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Look at these look at these drug busts. I mean
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: there's yeah, yesterday, the day before yesterday.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: There was one in Rutland, the.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Big one in Rutland. And you know, you know, what's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: amazing to me is I don't know, it's just I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: don't know. It just seems this this way that like
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: back in the in the nineties, we didn't see drug
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: busts taking place in the outskirts of like beautiful towns
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: of like Washington and in the hills you know where
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: it's it's so beautiful.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: It was just big rich people, right exactly, the people
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: who had the money for it.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: But it's like now, you know, now we got we
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: got major bus taking place in in some of these
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: beautiful rural towns in Vermont. And that's I mean, you know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: we see the pictures of the drugs and the and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the guns, and and you know, the roundups of there's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: always some Vermontors in there, and it seems like there's
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: always some people from from Springfield, mass from Hartford, Connecticut, Albany.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Are we winning or losing the the the fight on drugs? Here?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Hearing Vermont, Hearing hearing Vermont.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't really give an answer because I'm
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: not really associated with that, you know, that part of
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: my life anymore. I've written off people, you know, I've
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I moved away multiple times out of state. That was
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: my way of getting sober. The first time was to
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: New Jersey in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. I packed up
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: my kids and moved where I didn't know anybody and
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: did it all on my own. Then I hated New Jersey.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Freaking terrible people there are just so mean and it
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't for me. I didn't like it. So then I
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: ended up coming back and then went through a pretty
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: traumatic past relationship and stuff.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But overcame when you came back. Yeah, when I came back,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Post Jersey got it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: And then my husband and I moved to Texas recently,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: and then that wasn't for me either, so I came back.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I just keep coming back. But we we landed in
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Brandon and I love it there good. I love it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: It's quiet, it's peaceful, the school system is great for
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: our kids, and there's no there's no triggers unless I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: go to you know, Rutland and Godo Walmart or something.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: That's a freaking trip. How So, just seeing people so
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: zombified on the side of the road and homeless and
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: you know, struggling, and it's sad. It's it's sad. I
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: just want to scoop them up and hold them and
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: tell them everything's going to be okay.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But you know, zombified. Wow, what a word. And uh,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you know I saw I don't know if you know
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Seth Garrish, but he posted a video yesterday of a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: guy that was obviously very very high over at Cumberland
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Farms and it was unbelievable to see that. I don't
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: want my kids seeing that. Yeah, it's amazing, it is.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And with you know, raising kids in this too is
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: like I have an almost thirteen year old son and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: God that it makes me nervous.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: How many kids? Yeah?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I have two boys, okay.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: At thirteen and eight. Wow, man, you got your hands full. Yeah,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: good boys.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I by the grace of God. You know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: they're amazing kids. And we are very open with conversations
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: and I don't beat around the bush with them either.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I'm very you know, if they have questions, they come
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: to me, and that's the kind of relationship that I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: want with them. Have they had questions, yes, especially with
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: us starting the podcast there, you know, they want to
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: know what we're talking about and having to have the
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: conversations with them that I was an addict and they
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: kind of saw the phase of the alcoholism. Wow, So
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: having those big conversations, you know, that's age appropriate. You know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: going to go into detail about things of.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Course, of course, but someday going forward.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I have to prepare them not only not only for
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: like what could come across their paths, but you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I come from a line of addictive family, my father,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: my mom, grandparents, so that it's hereditary. So to prepare
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: them for that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're blessed that you are having such open conversations.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. So my oldest is autistic, but he's very
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: low on the spectrum. It's more or less aspergers. He
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: struggles with peer communication and just like reading people's cues,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: he really struggles with but he is. He comes home
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and he's like, what's wrong with these kids these days?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: It's like they got brain rot and they're all stupid.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: It's like, Dom, you are one of the kids.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But I mean, it's look at what these kids have
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: in front of them. They have a world.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they have actual yea crazy things. And you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: some people say that my husband and I are strict parents,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: but you know they're not ready for that. I don't
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: remember who told me one time, but they I heard
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: that us as humans are not made to take in
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: so much information from around the world. We are so
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: we we are built to have smaller communities and to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: know like what's around us here. Taking in all the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: information at once from around the world is overload. And
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: for a developing child, you know, that's why they anxiety
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: is such a big thing, and depression and it's they
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: have all of this information at their fingertips. Sure, so
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I try really hard to, you know, minimize.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: That they are.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: You're right, but you can't hide them from everything.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, God, and I you know, it's it's I'm listening
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to you, and I'm thinking about our kid and what
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: what she's already starting to see and hear.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Ten it only gets worse.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, the attitude Jesus Lord.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the lovely mother's curse of you're gonna
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: have children that are gonna be just like you. And
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: guess what it freaking happened? Oh oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: But you seem you seem like you got a good
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: man in your life too, that you kind of absolutely
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: dialed into this.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank god.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Thank god. Yeah, Because there's a lot of there's a
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: lot of bad dudes out there.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I've come across a few.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you have. Yeah, but it's it's you know,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: what do we say to our kids, you know? And
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: what do we say to them when it's really not
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that big of a deal. If they're somewhere and some
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: people are smoking pot. It's just I mean when I was,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: oh my god, when I was in elementary school, middle school,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: if somebody was spoken pot, that was like heroin. Yeah,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: it was huge. I mean this was you know, early eighties,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: different way of thinking about it. But this this is
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: like it's so accessible now, it's so easy, And do
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you do you what do you think about pot? Do
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: you think it's a gateway? And are you what are
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you going to say to one of your kids if
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you know, if that want to try it or it's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: been offered to them, what do you what are you
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: going to say?
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: So I grew up around pot like that, My whole
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: freaking family smokes pot, And to me it was normal.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: It was a normal thing. I I do once in
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: a while, but it's more for like my anxiety. But
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: then I you know, then I do too much and
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: then I start freaking out, and then I call my
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: husband because I'm freaking the fuck out, and I'm like,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I'm dying, and he's always like, why are you doing
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: this to yourself? You know what's gonna happen. So I've
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: just kind of stopped doing it. But I mean it
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: could be used as a tool. I used it as
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: a tool. And what I would tell my kids is,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna do something, be smart about it. Yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: kids are you know, they're gonna be They're gonna want
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: to try things. I was that kid. Sure you know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I wonder what it's like to smoke a cigarette, and
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: sure I'll take some booger sugar. Like, of course they're
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: gonna freaking try it. But I want to educate them
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: that if you're going to try it, and you want
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to do it, then you you need to be smart.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: You need to know where your ship's coming from, and
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: you need to tell somebody yeah you know nothing, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: you need to test your you know.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Not be hanging walking around downtown and getting in cars
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Going off with strangers or listen, I don't follow your
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: mother's footsteps.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I could ask, yeah, well, and I could ask, you
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: know myself, the same question, you know, how how am
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I going to respond to this?
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: And I think the best way is just head on
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: and just be open and honest and blunt. Yeah, because
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: the scare tactic didn't do anything to me, Like, yeah,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: it did nothing. It just made me more curious.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: How far are you willing to be transparent because I
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: don't want to ask you something that if your kids
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: are going back and watching this. Okay, So what was
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: your beyond pop? What was your what were your drugs?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Cocaine and heroin and then alcohol?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Of the three, was there one that was harder
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: to get clean of?
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Alcohol?
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I think it was because it was such a it's
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: always in your face, everywhere kind of thing.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: You didn't even have to hesitate when I asked you that.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, it's it's everywhere. Yeah, like you say,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: it's just part of.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Part of it's part of culture, part of the norm,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: which is freaking crazy to me. But right, I mean
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: it's not You're not going to change it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's everywhere. It's at every birthday, party, barbecue.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Fourth of July is wherever, totally normalized. How do you
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: say now? And do you still do you still crave it?
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I do still crave it, not as often, but I
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: went to Brattleborough Retreat recently. I did their outpatient program
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: again for some psychological things going on. But and I
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: started a new medication, which if I drink would be
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: probably freaking terrible and I and I don't want to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: try it. It's crazy to me because now like I
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: used to I used to do anything, I'm like a
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: little pilchair, I'll take that, or you know, doing lines
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: off of a toilet and a club and you know,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: like sure stupid things. And now I'm like, I don't
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: know if I should take this medicine or this is
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: too much ibuprofen, like overthinking it. So now with taking
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: medication for my bipolar, I'm too afraid to even try.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I don't want to try. I started on lithium because
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: they don't do they don't do the bottomies anymore. So
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: so what do you have?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Where do your what are your what?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: A pen and paper?
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: What are your stamps?
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: What don't I have?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: What are your what are your stamps?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: So I was I have PTSD star PTSD from UH
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: sexual trauma from UH being a child and teenager and adult.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately I have bipolar UH oh dear, I have o
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: c D. I also have severe depression and anxiety problems.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I was also recently diagnosed with like a mild form
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: of Tourettes too.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: You've had you've had quite a life. Oh yeah, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you said you've been in foster care since you were twelve? Yes, okay,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: any relationships, good relationships with any of those foster families or.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, some of the people. Some of the families I
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: do keep in contact with, not as often as i'd like.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: But you know, with life and stuff.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: You seem like somebody. Uh and I know, beck I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: say the word stamps. My god, I've got mine too.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: But you you, you, you come across as someone to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: me who you really catch your ship together. No, you see,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: seriously to me that that's what I see. I don't
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: think so, I think. I think what I'm what I'm
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: seeing here is a great mom who has earned her
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: her badges. I mean, you've you know what you're doing now,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: you've got it, You're figuring it out.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely a lot further along than where I was.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's only been a couple of years.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I owe a lot of it to my husband.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: We kind of got sober together, and I want to I.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Want to know about this. That was one of my questions.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: So we went to Spaulding High School together and we
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: were in junior r OTC together kind of, But then
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I went into Foster Karen I moved away, so we
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: just lost touch and I was drinking a lot, he
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: was drinking a lot. And we met up at Gusto's.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: The longest one night stand ever. It's been three years now.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome. That's great.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he is my support human. Him and Becca
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: are my lifeline, the.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Three of you. Yeah. Yeah, So who's so whose idea was? So?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Y'all y'all did this together? Y'all got so whose idea
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: was it? To say? Yo, man, like my husband, this
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: is the bottom, Like, I'm not doing this?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: It was it was it was Joe. It was my husband.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I really like tested the waters too, because I didn't
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: want to stop doing it because I was like, but
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: it's fun and it's my way to get away from
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: the kids and it's my way to like go have fun.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: And he's like, there's so many other ways to do
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: it then destroying your life and your body.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Wow. Was he relaying the same message to Becca or
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: were you?
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I think he was I think he was kind of
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: projecting it to both of us, especially because when Becka
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: and I got together, Yeah, that's when that's when we're like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: what do we do? Let's go to the bar. One
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: time we were we were we were both in school.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember what I was in school for,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and we justified taking our our school a school stuff
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to the bar and we're like, we're just going to
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: sit at the bar and just do some school work,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: maybe order some food. We didn't leave. People started rolling in.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: It was Friday, and then I was like, what are
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: we doing?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: What? What do you think made? What do you think
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: made Joe say? All right, we got to start tapping
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: the brakes here a little bit.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I think it was because we both wanted better lives, better,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: like better than what we had, because clearly doing it
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the way that we were doing it wasn't freaking working. Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: it was just running into a wall.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Right, But one of you had to see that it
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't working. Someone has to really recognize it, and a
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: lot of us don't. We just stay on the road
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and go faster and faster. But for someone to finally
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: see recognize this isn't working, I.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Feel like we stopped just like a test trial, and
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: then realize like, what the fuck am I doing?
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm tired of feeling like crap. My health
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: was also not great. Yeah, I have thyroid problems and
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: you know, drinking does obviously does not help that at all.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: And it was also making my anxiety way worse because
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: then lack of sleep and then you're not eating correctly, and.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Well that affects everything. Yeah, your job, your relationship, your
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: relationship with your kids. I mean the list goes on.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Wow, what a story. And the fact that that the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: three of you kind of got into this boat and
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: said we're going to be each other's support system. We
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: have to do this, that's really that's really remarkable.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: There's definitely been bumps along the way when that has.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Only been a couple of years now. Man, I mean that,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: of course there's going to be bumps.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: When I when we moved to Texas, Beck and I
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: kind of fell out of touch. But then I moved
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: back and we're like, you know what, let's freaking do this,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Like we've been talking about it for like six years. Really, yeah,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: we've been talking about doing this for a longing. Ye,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: But then we didn't really know what we were going
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: to do, and then it just kind of clicked, like
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: this is our calling. You know. She went to college
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: for criminal justice highest honors. You go girl, Yeah, she
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: kicked ass. Wow. And I've always just been in the
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: healthcare field because that's my way of caring for people.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: And we both you know, not just struggle, but we
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: deal with with all this stuff every day, and it's like,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: there's so many other people out there who do too.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe we can shed some light to make them feel
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: like it's not you know, you're not alone and it's okay.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: It's okay to be struggling, but you got to find
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: your way out at some point. And maybe giving people
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: those plugs.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: So when you do this podcast, is it taped or
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: is it live?
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: It's taped.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: It's taped, but it's not edited. No.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: We also have a open line that we're trying to
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: get people to call into because we want our callers
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: to be the light of the show. That's why we're
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: trying to get our name out there and push it
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: because we want people to call in with anything anything, Yeah,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: crazy ass stories and you know, if you're looking for
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: a different point of view or if you want some advice,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: or if.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: You frankly, if you just want to goof.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Around right, yeah, like laugh.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: We we need to laugh. We need to laugh about
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: more things.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Laughter is the best medicine.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Even our bad decisions, how badly we fucked up?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah looking back and yeah yeah, I.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Mean try to laugh if you can. So when when?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: How do we know when you're going to be doing
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: this so that we can call in? That's I think
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: that's my question. So if you're if you're recording it,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: how do we know when.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: So you can call in whenever the hell you want?
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: So it is a answering system and our hold on again.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to work. I'm going to put it in
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: the comments too.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I got my number written in my hand.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Beautiful, that's the best place.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: To write so much. So it's eight oh two four
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: three eight three zero seven to five call one more
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: time A two four three eight three zero yeah seven
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: five three zero seven five Yes, and you can call anytime.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Anytime, And we have this message and you guys will
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: play it back on the air.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, so you might hear yourself on the chep to podcasts,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: so she'd probably call in. Okay, we did get our
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: first call. We got two calls. Actually, the first one
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: was fifteen seconds of silence okay, so that was fun.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: And then the next one was Becca testing it out,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: testing it out, yeah, saying is this the crosty grab?
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Oh my god? All right. So and the fact that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you're doing this and she's in hard Way and you're
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: in Brandon, that's pretty that's that's pretty cool.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: We obviously can't meet up all the time in person,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: which I hate, and I wish you would move closer.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: That'd be great.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what you doing?
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I know she's probably gonna be like, why don't you
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: move closer to me? Yeah? Well, but she calls in and.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: While I record, So okay, all right, So she got
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: a board.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, we got a little little board. I'm still learning.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, neither do I.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's learning and figuring it out as you go.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm pretty excited for it.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: So what what do you are you gonna have?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: You?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Have you written maybe a press release or if you
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: tried to reach out to oh god, no, anywhere.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: We're at the very very very beginning, okay, like figuring
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: out Okay, we started it. Where do we go from here?
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, don't give up on this though.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: No, I think we're both very passionate about it. Yeah,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: so I I think I think it's gonna go on
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: for a long time. I hope it's going to go
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: on for a long time.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. It will get funky.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta hold it. You gotta hold it out.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: You gotta hang on. You gotta hang on, man. It's
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and as soon as you start getting a a fan base,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: a listener base that needs to hear your podcast and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: your your message, then you're more committed that way, and
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: you just gotta you gotta stay with it, even though
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: some episodes might suck.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh got our first one, like the first full
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: half was like an auto tune and it sounded so bad.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, we're not redoing it,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: just freaking Yeah. You gotta start somewhere.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: And I think that's great.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I like that it's not perfect, you know. I like
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: the the grittiness of it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, yeah, you guys are You and Becka are
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: hysterical together?
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: At least some may think so, my god, we made it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I mean so well, is Joe going to be on
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: the air with you guys?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Well maybe at some point he is a cross cross
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: country trucker, so he's not home.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Very No, that's even better.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know call in.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Well he when he calls in, he should be live. Yeah,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: it's you don't even have to say that he's your husband.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: It's just I know, no one he's gonna know.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Joe from the truck. Yeah, Joe is this trucker guy.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I just call him j j Where the hell is
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: he today? We don't know. Yeah, you don't have him
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: put him on the air. Put him on the air
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: when he doesn't even know he's on the air. That's
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: always fun.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to listen to that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Well, are you going to be able to Are you
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: going to be able to hang on to all of this?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I mean you're.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're very persistent human beings. We don't we
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: don't give up easy.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean your your sobriety too. I mean four
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: you said four years in?
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, somewhere around there.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: What did you have to get off? First?
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Heroin which kind of tied in with the cocaine.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: But all right, was coke right after that, about the
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: same time, about the same Yeah, okay, how did you
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: do that? How did you? How did you do that?
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Do you get some help?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: No? I did not. I did not go to rehab.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I did it on my own. I while I was
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: going through a divorce and I left the house to him,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: and then it kind of fell off the train, you know,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: and then started using. Was homeless quite a few times. Yeah,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: it was a wild ride.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Usually when we're going through thick shit like that, that's
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: when it's more of a need to to use.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, Yeah, my kids were really my my rock
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: at the time of like if I need to be
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I need to be the not only the parent, but
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: the adult that I needed as a child. That is
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: really what pushes me through, is I need to be
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: what I needed, what you needed.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, because there's there's plenty of parents,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of moms who have substance use substance use disorder,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: and they're just not able to They're not able to
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: have their kids be the reason for themselves discovering sobriety.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: They're just there, I don't want to say too far gone,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: but it happens all the time. You know that. Yeah,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: that that's sometimes just being a mom and just needing
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: to be a parent is just not enough.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately it's not. It doesn't click with everyone.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: But you were able to somewhere in your soul muster
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: up enough something. I don't know what it is. It's
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it's not toughness, it's beyond that. You found something that's
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: so inert in you that you may never even tap
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: into it again. I don't know. But you found something
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: where you had to make a real, conscious, proactive choice.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't really know exactly when it clicked, but
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: it just happened.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Your kids are lucky. Joe's lucky, of course he is.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: What I'm just saying, that just doesn't always happen, you
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, No, I was one of the lucky, one
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: of the lucky people. I think both of us were,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Beck and I.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: And I feel like our friendship too, really like was
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: such a big part of our sobriety as well.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: And to do that with someone that you used to
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: like party party with, partaken in special activities.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is even more. I feel like the norm it.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Built our friendship and now I feel like we're kind
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: of like restarting, you know, like sure, learning each other again.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Usually when you get two hooligans like this together once
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: if if if one is getting their ship together, one's
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: going one way and the other staying on the road.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: She says, persistent, hard headed, determined. Hilarious, that's what Becka
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: is saying. So this is really profound what you're what
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: you're doing.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm extremely proud of us.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: How did you how did you hear about aired out?
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: How did why did you reach out to me?
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Well that's a darn good question. I mean you well,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I've obviously follow you, and I see the people that
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: who come on and you interview and talk with about
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: their lives and struggles and whatnot. So I thought it
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: would be a good way to get our name out there,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: to let those people know, like, hey, yeah, like there's
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of us freaking misfits over here, and
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: we want to talk and we want to hear what
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: you have to say and help if we can. I mean,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: we're not at all licensed to freaking help. Well I'm
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: not beca Becca kind of is.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: You're real people and you guts like that, really real
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: life experiences.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for Beca to share her her story.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Too, So both of you, next time you're in here,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: you'll be with.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Her, probably hopefully.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: What did you think of my discussion with Brandon Carbo.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I caught the tail end of it. I think what
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: bothered me the most was what people were saying. I
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: think that's why I had to stop, because people were
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: just so nasty and disgusting, and it was like, that's
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: someone's that's someone's freaking kid, that's somebody loves that person.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you what I've done some really
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: shitty things, really fucking shitty things to get a fix,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: to sex work, to fucking selling my kids, things, screwing
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: people over, and instead of instead of putting people down
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: like that, take that energy to actually take the time
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: to hear their freaking story, because what good does it do.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: That's how people end up dying and killing themselves and
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: it's terrible. Be nice at least be kind, And if
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say it.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: The golden rule in life.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Come on, you know, I'm still taking heat for having
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Brandon Carbo in here because I think and I'm just
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: trying to I'm just trying to read between the lines here,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm trying to when I see certain comments, I'm
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: trying to think what it might be that that individual
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: is feeling and why they might be saying the words
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: that they're saying instead of just reading the words and
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: for face value.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Some people don't know how to express they don't. You know,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: it takes a long time to figure out why the
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: fuck am I doing this? Why am I doing this
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: to myself? You got it, It's like an onion. You
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: got to peel back the layers to figure out the
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: root of the cause. And by the sounds of it,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: he was dealt a very shitty hand in life.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, many many hard cards. So were you. And most
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: of the time when we go delta a bad card
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: or bad hand, we we we don't play them very well.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Which is brand well because you don't know how right.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: And you know, when you don't have people to show
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: you how to deal those cards, you're you're fucking winging
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: it or you're in their steps.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: But you just you you said, you just said something
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: to me that is sticking with me. And it's basically
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: it seems like you understand why I had him on
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: the air. Oh absolutely, But there's there's folks out there
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: that look at it as I had him on the air,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: because I was trying to make him famous more than
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: he already is for all the wrong reasons. But but
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: that I was glorifying his his lifestyle and and his
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: interactions with our community, which have been horrible.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: So what would be glorifying it is bringing him in
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: here and letting him walk away with a couple hundred bucks.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: That's glorifying it. Yeah, just because somebody isn't in the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: same situation or well being that you are doesn't make
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: them any less of a human sure, and degrading somebody
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: like that doesn't doesn't do anything for you or for
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: the person. Right, And if it makes you feel better,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: that says a lot more about you than it does them.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, uh, and it, you know, be honest,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: it kind of irked me a little bit. And I
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: said on the air, listen, if for the for the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: few people out of almost forty thousand that saw for
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: the few people that feel that I was exploiting Brandon
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Carbo or glorifying or praising his efforts to be the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: person that he is, those, it's fine with me. It's
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: actually liberating for me if they choose, if they if
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I'm that misunderstood, like I said, I mean, I said
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: this on the air, Please don't watch this podcast because
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: you're just you're so out of touch with reality of
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do here.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: And not only that, you have the power to scroll away. Yeah,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: what a weird concept.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Weird weird, isn't it?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: I know, insane?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: What would you say to Brandon though he walks by
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: here every single day, every morning, right here, what would
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: you say to him.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: That there are people who care and when you're ready
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: for the help, there's people who will guide you, and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: you gotta fucking stick with it. And it is hard,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure like it would be a lot harder
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: for him than it was for me.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Do you believe that there are some that are just simply.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: A lost No, nobody's a lost cause, nobody's a freaking lost.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Cause you're living proof.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Of that, sure, I guess.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I've had it stacked up against.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: You, I couldn't imagine thinking that my worth was more
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: than someone else's. That's insane to me. Wow, Wow, we
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: don't have to see eye to eye, you know, Sure,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: it's it's crazy yeah, And last night when we recorded
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: the podcast, it was about that pretty much, this okay
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: of being nice and just like taking time, don't be
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: a dick, do stop being a Richard? Yes, right, Just
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: because somebody's not walking the same path that you are
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't make them any less of a person.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: You know, it's easy, though I'm guilty of it too.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: It's easy to see someone who's panhandling or someone who's
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's it's hard for me to
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: see someone who's who's panhandling that you know, you stopped
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: at the light. You're looking at them, You're looking at
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: their face, you're looking at their clothes. You might be
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: trying to come up with your own belief. Do I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: really think that they're homeless? They might be, they might
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: not be.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Well I'm sorry, but if you didn't need to stand
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: on the side of the road, why the hell would
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: you be there?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Well, that's I mean, that's a good question, that's a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: good question. But it's you know, it's like, you know,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: like I've seen Brandon too. You know, you see someone
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: who's panhandling, but they're smoking cigarettes, which thirteen bucks a
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: pack man, and it's like, you know what.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, oh, I know. It's it's kind of like
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: when you when you see you come across them and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: you're like, well, what I think anyways, is I'm just
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: an enabler if I give them money, and I'm an enabler.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so smokes or drugs, right, Yeah, I know, alcohol,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I know. And the thing part of the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: reason why this is such a slippery slope is because
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: this is not true for everybody.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Right, everybody's done, it's all different.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: You can't put everybody in the same box here. I mean,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: it's like that might be true for for even the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: majority of people that you're you're give them five bucks
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: and it's going towards smokes or booze or drugs or whatever,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: But what about the others?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, if I ever, know, if I ever give
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: somebody something I usually purchase, you know, like I'll go
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: in and buy them some food or something, right and
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: give it to them, and then you could tell if
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: if it pisses them off or not. Yeah, and you're like, well,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: you're clearly here for the wrong reason.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, And we've we've many of us have seen that
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: many times. Yeah, I think you guys, are you guys
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: are really onto something. You and backha. I think so
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I think you should pull in the that crazy ass
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: truck driver every now and then. Yeah, well you just don't.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: You don't even have to say his name, just the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: truck driver. But I think you guys are really onto something.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: You're onto something big here. And who else is doing
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  Speaker 1: this down in Rutland Brandon area, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even look at it.
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  Speaker 1: What what whatever I can do to help you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in and whatever that looks like. I believe in
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  Speaker 1: your your message. I believe in what you guys are doing.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's kind of interesting that you're you're
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  Speaker 1: bringing in such a serious subject but also goofing around
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  Speaker 1: and having fun with it. That's that's uh, that's intriguing
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  Speaker 1: to me. And and you know, sometimes you guys are
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about sobriety and sometimes you're just
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  Speaker 1: going to be ripping one into the microphone and you know, and.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you're gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Get just having just having fun, just having a laugh,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's I think that's great too. Man.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys can do that and make others smile,
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  Speaker 1: that could be you know, that could be a that
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  Speaker 1: could be something that just absolutely changes someone's life, yes,
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  Speaker 1: or begins to change.
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  Speaker 2: That's the goal. That's the goal. And we want to
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  Speaker 2: build a community. We don't want to just have it
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  Speaker 2: just be us. We want to build a community. We
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  Speaker 2: want to hear what people have to say, right and
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  Speaker 2: let them be heard.
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  Speaker 1: No matter what it is. No, Yeah, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: going on here, man. And it's not just it's it's Berry,
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  Speaker 1: it's Montpullier, it's Rutland, it's Burlington.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's spreading too. It is like a wildfire. It's insane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, one more time. How do we find the chup
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  Speaker 2: You can find us on Facebook and you can also
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  Speaker 2: find us on Spotify and you can also call us
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  Speaker 2: in at eight oh two four three eight three zero
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  Speaker 2: that's where it is.
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  Speaker 1: C h up t A t A audio only right
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  Speaker 1: now for.
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  Speaker 2: Now, But we'll let people know what you're gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah once it Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you may not really do much, you might not
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  Speaker 1: change up much. If this is what works for you
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  Speaker 1: and Becca, then by god.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I feel like facial expressions would just add to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, We've got plenty of those today.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for coming in here, yes, thank you for having
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  Speaker 2: me amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for getting up so early and schlepping all the
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  Speaker 1: way up here. Man, this is this is badass. So
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna see some.
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  Speaker 2: Some fam though, and yes see, I'm going to stop
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  Speaker 2: and see some family.
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  Speaker 1: And your grandma tuned did oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw her earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: She was like, I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: Tell tell Graham to like and follow the Facebook page.
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  Speaker 2: I know, to air it out and I think she
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  Speaker 2: already does and on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, so you guys are doing great stuff. I
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  Speaker 1: want to I don't know what, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: do something with you. I don't want I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what it looks like, but at the very least I
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  Speaker 1: want to. You know, next time, we got to get
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  Speaker 1: back in have some fun. You guys are doing. You
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  Speaker 1: guys are doing great work. And yeah, surely saying good luck.
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone, thank you everyone. I think everyone's saying
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  Speaker 1: good luck. You're gonna do You're gonna do just fine.
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  Speaker 2: I help them.
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  Speaker 1: You're kicking ass already. Take me. You're four years in man,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are you're on the You're on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Buckle up. Thank you again for coming in. All right, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: have a marvelous rest of your day. Be good, take
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  Speaker 1: good care of one another. We'll catch it tomorrow morning
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: with sweethearts and heroes steps in. Actually, I think we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be by phone tomorrow. Uh, and I'm gonna be
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: telling you what I'm going to be soon doing in Perie,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: New York. I'm heading over to do a podcast episode
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: in Peru. Details on that coming up. Enjoy the rest
• 1:11:08
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