Latest / BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show / The Milwaukee Mile (Steve Zautke)
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- 0:00Brake Fix's History of Motorsports series is brought to you in part
- 0:04by the International Motor Racing Research Center, as well as the
- 0:07Society of Automotive Historians, the Watkins Glen Area Chamber of
- 0:11Commerce, and the Argettsinger family.
- 0:16My name is Glenda Gephardt.
- 0:17For those who don't know me, I'm the director of the center and
- 0:22I'm going to kick off today's center conversation gathering and
- 0:26at this time I'll introduce J.
- 0:27C.
- 0:28Argotsinger who will introduce our speaker.
- 0:30Thanks.
- 0:31Well thank you very much and thank you Glenda.
- 0:33Those of you who don't know that's Glenda Gephardt who's been with the racing
- 0:37center even before it was formed at least 16 years ago and she's the person who
- 0:41makes the trains run on time and we're very grateful for everything she does.
- 0:46We do have a wonderful speaker here today.
- 0:48He bridges both the oval world and the road world, which are
- 0:52coming closer and closer together.
- 0:54As you know, we've had a number of oval track presentations in recent years,
- 0:59and of course we always have been identified with road racing, but we do
- 1:03cover all forms of racing in all parts of the country and around the world.
- 1:08Well, our speaker today is an author.
- 1:11He has just published a new book on Road America, which I just received
- 1:14last night and stayed up late reading.
- 1:16He is a native of Milwaukee, got involved with the Milwaukee
- 1:21Mile at a very young age.
- 1:22His father was a filmmaker and a fan and participated in the events there,
- 1:27organizing them and helping out.
- 1:28He had the same sort of influence that I had.
- 1:30My father infected me with this racing bug and all of you in the
- 1:34audience I know are racing fans.
- 1:36It's something, once you've been bitten, you don't get it out of your system.
- 1:39So, Steve Zotke has driven in with his wonderful wife, Susan,
- 1:43who was the historian for a while at the Milwaukee Mile.
- 1:46He also participates in this Henry Miller Club News, and he also is doing work for
- 1:51the new SVRA magazine that has come out.
- 1:54He's a wonderful writer and historian.
- 1:56He's also a devotee of Road America.
- 1:59So, without further ado, I'm going to introduce Steve Zotke.
- 2:08Thank you, Glenda and JC, appreciate it.
- 2:11The topic today is the Milwaukee Mile.
- 2:13A lot of people have heard about it, obviously my favorite
- 2:16track, next to Road America.
- 2:18World's oldest continuously operating racetrack.
- 2:21A lot of people say, well, I thought Indy was, or it was Milwaukee.
- 2:25The operative word is continuously.
- 2:27Indiana Fairgrounds actually held a race a couple of months before, and that's
- 2:30the One Mile Oval in Indianapolis, which is their state fairgrounds.
- 2:34And they held a race earlier in the year, however, they didn't hold
- 2:37races regularly till after the war, so thus, Milwaukee is the oldest
- 2:42continuously operating racetrack and it's more of a marketing thing.
- 2:45Bill and I were just talking about some people, you know, Knoxville in
- 2:48Iowa has been holding races since 1901, so, nationally sanctioned, you can go
- 2:52round and round, it's like anything, you change numbers around and pretty
- 2:55much debate something till all end.
- 2:58Originally, the state fair rotated from the 1850s.
- 3:02The state incorporated in 1848, and then they said, let's have
- 3:05a state fair like all states do.
- 3:07And it rotated around Madison.
- 3:09Most state fairs are centered at the Capitol.
- 3:12But Milwaukee was such a big city at that time, it was in
- 3:16the top 15 up until the 1940s.
- 3:18And also because it was on Lake Michigan.
- 3:20Many of the people in the state and the government thought Milwaukee would be a
- 3:24better place to showcase the state than Madison at that point, which was not as
- 3:28big as it is now and not as well known.
- 3:31It's been an ongoing thing where they were moving it, it moved to Janesville.
- 3:35The Oshkosh, and a lot of people don't realize, also in the early 1970s,
- 3:40there was talk of moving the fair from West Allis, which is a suburb
- 3:44of Milwaukee, to Madison once again.
- 3:46And so much so, that the promoters at the time, the Marchese brothers,
- 3:50Carl and Tootie, were actually thinking and had looked at purchasing
- 3:55land in southern Wisconsin, and were in talks of building a 1.
- 3:595 Super Speedway.
- 4:00The first race was held at Milwaukee weekend of September 1903.
- 4:05This is a photo of Barney Oldfield and Tom Cooper.
- 4:08Those cars were owned by Henry Ford.
- 4:10One was called the 999, which is the more famous car, and the other
- 4:13one was called the Red Devil.
- 4:14Tom Cooper is somebody that kind of is forgotten in history.
- 4:17It's kind of an amusing story.
- 4:19Not for Tom Cooper, though.
- 4:20Henry Ford was a very devout religious man, as was his wife.
- 4:23Tom Cooper is kind of known of a carouser, and Henry Ford's wife was hearing these
- 4:27stories about Tom Cooper and what type of a person he was off the racetrack,
- 4:32and she told Henry that maybe Tom Cooper needs to work somewhere else, so Tom
- 4:36Cooper is kind of lost to history.
- 4:37The first race was held, like I said, September 11th and 12th, 1903.
- 4:41Unfortunately, the first fatality happened.
- 4:43That's the Red Devil.
- 4:44That's the other car.
- 4:45You see models of the Ford 999, and the 999 is in the Henry Ford Museum.
- 4:50Unfortunately, there was a crash and Frank Day lost his life in the North Turn.
- 4:55That's located just at the, pretty much the apex of Turn 4 on September 12, 1903.
- 5:00It was his first race.
- 5:01He was from Columbus, Ohio, from a well to do family.
- 5:05Racing back then is not anywhere how it was today.
- 5:08Back then it was more barnstorming.
- 5:10What they would do is have match races.
- 5:12It was more of a spectacle.
- 5:13People would come out because the automobile was so new.
- 5:15And they would have one, two, three car races.
- 5:18And they were only for maybe one or two laps around the fairgrounds.
- 5:21And unfortunately he got pitched.
- 5:23He got thrown into the ground causing head injuries.
- 5:25Arnie Oldfield was not at the track that day because he had received
- 5:29injuries earlier in the month.
- 5:31Frank Day was filling in for him.
- 5:33Al Krause was a long time historian at the Milwaukee Mile.
- 5:36Spent many days with Al Krause.
- 5:38Guess you could call him my mentor.
- 5:40Was a neat fella and had been attending races at the fair
- 5:43park since the early 30s.
- 5:44Passed away about 10 years ago.
- 5:46Milwaukee Mall programs are pretty much known, especially from
- 5:491961 on, mainly because of Al.
- 5:51A lot of neat stuff, and they're very highly collectible.
- 5:54Tom Marchese would tell, uh, Al, when putting together the programs,
- 5:58he said, Al, I only want you to put in enough for the people to look
- 6:02at a couple of the pages during talent downtimes or a caution flag.
- 6:05Don't make the stories too involved.
- 6:07So he would have a lot of these photos in the program such as this
- 6:10one, where it says here's Barney Oldfield in this peerless green dragon.
- 6:14There's a number of these cars built.
- 6:15This is actually a shot of Barney at the Dallas Fairgrounds in 1905.
- 6:19However, Barney did set a track record in this car at Milwaukee in 1905.
- 6:25Barney also drove a lot of pretty iconic cars back in the day,
- 6:29including this, the Blitzen Benz.
- 6:31He also drove a Duroc, which was a French built car, the peerless
- 6:34Green Dragon that we saw previously.
- 6:36And then this is the Blitzen Benz that he drove at Milwaukee.
- 6:40And you can see there, there's a different set of the fairgrounds.
- 6:43The stands look a little bit different from the classic that
- 6:46you would see in the 50s and 60s.
- 6:48These were actually lost in a fire in 1914.
- 6:51First 100 mile race wasn't held at Milwaukee until 1915, so
- 6:55you had a lot of match racing.
- 6:56So you can see if the automobile, maybe you'd see him driving down
- 7:00a street at 20 some miles an hour.
- 7:02A lot of the roads were dirt back then.
- 7:04For if you were a kid in these stands and you saw these cars coming down
- 7:07at you at 65, 75 miles an hour.
- 7:10No mufflers on them.
- 7:11It was quite the spectacle to see these cars with the smell and everything.
- 7:15It was quite incredible.
- 7:17Not much for pit safety back then.
- 7:20Just kind of lean out over and then take a look.
- 7:22That's the famous Golden Submarine.
- 7:24That was one of the first race cars that was built by Harry Miller.
- 7:28Racing against Ralph De Palma.
- 7:29Oldfield actually won the race.
- 7:31One of the more iconic photos at Milwaukee in 1917.
- 7:35A lot of people know G.
- 7:36I.
- 7:36Case as a tractor company.
- 7:38However, they're very involved in racing.
- 7:40Before World War II.
- 7:42Now here we got a little shot of Louis Disbro in the Case Special.
- 7:45Finished 8th in 1913.
- 7:47There's also a shot of the 1911 Indy 500 at the start.
- 7:51You see these race cars that have mouths on them?
- 7:53Those are also G.
- 7:54I.
- 7:54Case race cars.
- 7:55And they were on the front row at Indianapolis in 1911.
- 7:58But J.
- 7:58I.
- 7:58Case has a very significant race in history.
- 8:01In fact, a friend of mine was doing some research and he decided to go over to J.
- 8:05I.
- 8:05Case, which is still based out of Racine.
- 8:07And they still have quite the accumulation of memorabilia and research.
- 8:11It's still there located at company headquarters in Racine.
- 8:14In the 1920s, the mile kind of faded from the National View.
- 8:18The reason for that was because of the board tracks.
- 8:21Board tracks, you had Beverly Hills, Altoona, Kansas City.
- 8:25Those were these huge, beautiful speed palaces.
- 8:28So the fairgrounds were kind of forgotten.
- 8:30You had dirt.
- 8:30dust and whatnot, people would rather go to a board track and see these
- 8:34beautiful 91 cubic inch millers and all the top drivers at a board track.
- 8:39So Milwaukee pretty much had more of the homegrown drivers
- 8:42were kind of the rural back then.
- 8:44If you were a fan back then, these are the guys you would see at the
- 8:48store driving down the street.
- 8:49So there's more of a personal connection with these guys because
- 8:52they lived in your hometown.
- 8:54There's Carl Marchese, he was a driver, drove at Indianapolis in 1927
- 8:58before he got hurt at Springfield.
- 9:00Chet Barnacle, he later became an official.
- 9:02And then Tootie Marchese, Ted Rosten, Stagnowicki, Louis Frank, Romy Sherwinski.
- 9:08That's the Milwaukee way of saying that.
- 9:10And then Porter Short.
- 9:11And these were, uh, just guys that were, uh, quite the
- 9:14speed demons back in the day.
- 9:15Some of you heard the name Tony Wilman.
- 9:17Tony Wilman was from South Milwaukee, located right off the Lake Michigan.
- 9:21I think it was always said, who is the best driver?
- 9:24You always said, I'm trying to remember who it was.
- 9:26It was more of a obscure driver in the thirties, but Al Krause, the officer, the
- 9:30historian that we spoke of about before Tony woman is the best driver ever.
- 9:33So if you're able to talk to guys like Tony and Paul Russo,
- 9:37highly respected driver.
- 9:39Rex Mays Classic started in 1950.
- 9:41Rex Mays was one of the more popular drivers prior to the war.
- 9:45And then during the war, he flew bombers and fighters, ferrying them
- 9:48from the United States to England.
- 9:50The 100 mile race at Milwaukee in 1948, that's Duke Dismore on the track.
- 9:55The number one is Ted Horn.
- 9:57And then the car on the right, that's Rex Mays's car.
- 9:59What we don't see is out of frame, Rex Mays is in the groove, waving
- 10:03to the drivers, the steer clear of Duke Dismore saving his life.
- 10:07Unfortunately, about a year and a half later at Delmore, California, Rex
- 10:11Mays was involved in a similar crash where he got thrown from the car.
- 10:14Unfortunately, he did not survive because he got hit by another car.
- 10:18So in 1915, it was decided that the 100 mile race in June would
- 10:22be called the Rex Mays Classic.
- 10:24The State Fairgrounds wasn't just for racing.
- 10:26Until it was a county stadium in Milwaukee, the Green Bay Packers
- 10:30would play four games in Milwaukee.
- 10:32To this day, it's what they call the gold package when they move all
- 10:35the Green Bay games to Green Bay.
- 10:37The reason for that, Green Bay obviously could not support a National
- 10:42Football League team back then.
- 10:43So what they did is they have four games in Milwaukee, and the 1939 World
- 10:49Championship was held at State Fair Park.
- 10:51The football field would be located towards the south turn, just
- 10:55behind where the pit area would be.
- 10:56And in that game, the Packers won the championship 27 to nothing.
- 11:00You can see the football field on the left hand side.
- 11:03And then also the quarter mile racetrack that they would have midget racing on.
- 11:07This would be pre war.
- 11:08They built this grandstand, was part of the WPA program back then.
- 11:11That's when they built it and you can see only half of it is done at that point.
- 11:15Midget car racing took the nation by storm after World War II.
- 11:19People in racing, I don't think, can grasp how big midget
- 11:23racing was after World War II.
- 11:25Especially on the west coast, you hear stories like Gilmore Stadium and that.
- 11:28One of my favorite stories that was told to me was, uh, Sam Hanks was
- 11:32a very successful midget driver.
- 11:34He would come to the bank because he had raced pretty much Thursday, Friday,
- 11:37Saturday, Sunday night and sometimes would win all the feature races.
- 11:41Well back then you literally got paid a cut of the gate.
- 11:44So he would have dollar bills and five dollar bills and coins shoved in every
- 11:48pocket and he would wear a sport coat.
- 11:50So when he would go to the bank, he'd be pulling out dollar bills
- 11:53and putting them on the counter, dropping them, and the teller would be
- 11:56looking at him, What were you doing?
- 11:58Here's a shot of Bob Wilkie of Leader Card Racers.
- 12:01Before he started an IndyCar team, he was a distributor for Curtis Craft Midgets.
- 12:06And that's a Ray Richards who was a driver from Chicago, drove his car.
- 12:09That's at Milwaukee.
- 12:10That's about 1940.
- 12:12Guys should recognize that fella.
- 12:13It's A.
- 12:13J.
- 12:13Foyt.
- 12:14He's driving a Bob Hickman Midget at Milwaukee in 1957.
- 12:18And that's the program cover.
- 12:19That was the final one.
- 12:21The final 100 mile race, USAC race, at Milwaukee for quite some time.
- 12:25From the period of the late 40s up until 1961, that would be held usually
- 12:29the day before the IndyCar race.
- 12:31They got later into the late 50s, and unfortunately attendance
- 12:34was dipping less and less.
- 12:36Tom Marchese in 1961 says, if we don't make money on it, this
- 12:39is going to be the final year.
- 12:40Unfortunately, on that Saturday, they only drew probably about 5, 000 people,
- 12:45and that wasn't enough for them.
- 12:46So, after 1961, they stopped.
- 12:48Having it.
- 12:49They did have a standalone race in 1965.
- 12:51It was sanctioned by Badger Midgets and Jiggers Roy, who some of you may
- 12:55remember, for almost winning the poll in 1969 and Indianapolis won that race.
- 13:00Well, one thing I know a lot of people there, I just was somewhere last week and
- 13:04somebody was commenting about old photo.
- 13:05Everybody's wearing a tie in the sport called, this is
- 13:07one of my favorite shots too.
- 13:09Pretty much everybody has a hat tie and a sport coat on a dirt car race.
- 13:13This is before the, this is 1948 before the race was even paved.
- 13:17And this is a shot from, of the Dean Van Lyne car on Jimmy Bryan on the pole.
- 13:21And once again, full grandstands.
- 13:23And in the back there, you see a little, almost looks like a big pizza hut.
- 13:26That was the Coliseum.
- 13:27During the winter, before World War II, they would hold
- 13:29indoor midget races in there.
- 13:31Very popular.
- 13:32Unfortunately, not well ventilated.
- 13:34I talked to a few gentlemen when I was a younger kid, and they said,
- 13:37by the end of the night, you were getting a little dizzy in there.
- 13:401952, here's a shot, I mentioned this to J.
- 13:42C.
- 13:42earlier, we were talking about women not being allowed in
- 13:45the pit areas, and that's S.
- 13:46Paoli and Chuck Stevenson.
- 13:48He won the championship and S.
- 13:50Paoli was the car owner but was not allowed in the pits at Indianapolis.
- 13:54Great answer to a trivia question, the track was paved in 1954,
- 13:58so he won the last IndyCar race in 1953 on the dirt for J.
- 14:03C.
- 14:03Agajanian and then 1954 won the first race for him when the track was paved.
- 14:081960, this was the June race at Milwaukee, there were almost 60
- 14:13cars entered for 22 starting spots.
- 14:16So, on the pole there, that's Jim Packard.
- 14:18Behind him was the winner of the 1960 Indy 500, Jim Rathman.
- 14:23Also in this race were Jimmy Bryan and Troy Ruttman, previous Indy 500 winners.
- 14:28Future national champion Roger McCluskey was in this race.
- 14:31It's just a who's who of racing.
- 14:34And this was a 20 lap race that was held before the 100 lap race.
- 14:38And the top two went into the feature.
- 14:41And no, Rathman, Bryan, and Ruttman did not make it.
- 14:44This is the 1960 200 miler in August.
- 14:48Roger Ward, you see on the pole.
- 14:50What's interesting is that third car next to the 97.
- 14:53It's an interesting story.
- 14:54That's the Braun Plywood car.
- 14:56That was a brand new Eperle.
- 14:57Unfortunately, it came to Indianapolis too late and did not make the race.
- 15:01That's Parnelli Jones in that car.
- 15:03Qualified second.
- 15:04Everybody was like, who the heck is this kid from California?
- 15:07A few weeks later, he was at the Indianapolis Motor
- 15:09Speedway doing a firestone test.
- 15:11Car was not handling right, didn't feel right.
- 15:13So Tony Bettenhausen came over to the car, Tony Bettenhausen Sr., and Parnelli goes,
- 15:17this car isn't, just doesn't feel right.
- 15:20Tony gets into the car and comes in after two laps and said, I can't believe
- 15:24this kid kept the car off the wall.
- 15:25They made some adjustments and hit about 148 miles an hour.
- 15:29Tony went to his car owner, Lindsey Hopkins, at the
- 15:32time and said, Buy that car.
- 15:34If you buy that car, I can win the Indianapolis 500 next year.
- 15:37So, he was the fastest car then in 1961.
- 15:40Unfortunately, was test hopping a car for Paul Reuss and was killed.
- 15:43People believe that Benton Housing could have won the 500 that year in 1961.
- 15:47In an indirect way, it was because of Pernelli Jones.
- 15:50Here we got a shot of Roger Ward winning a race in 1961 in the Sun City car.
- 15:54Roger Ward was Mr.
- 15:56Milwaukee Mile.
- 15:57He's got the most wins for any IndyCar driver with seven and won a variety
- 16:00of stock car races at the track too.
- 16:03Loved the track.
- 16:04Roger, uh, I did an interview with him about 15 years ago.
- 16:08One of the first interviews I did, he said he was the first driver and
- 16:11it's funny how so many echo the same thing after, was the driver's track.
- 16:15He said, what I loved about Milwaukee is it was flat.
- 16:18And you could pick a line.
- 16:19If your car wasn't handling, you could pick another line
- 16:22and maybe make the car handle.
- 16:23And with Milwaukee, a driver could carry the car, especially in those days,
- 16:27more than you could at any other track.
- 16:29So Milwaukee, the kind of the cream of the crop, rose to the top.
- 16:33And Roger Waters certainly, when he teamed up with A.
- 16:35J.
- 16:35Watson and Bob Wilkie in 1959, that was the team to beat.
- 16:39Here's another shot of Roger, that's actually Lloyd Ruby, who didn't
- 16:43have a ride that day, helping Roger get buckled in during practice.
- 16:46And then J.
- 16:47C.
- 16:47Eggegenian with the cowboy hat.
- 16:48It's amazing, there's a photo, J.
- 16:50C.
- 16:50Osborks himself did a photo somehow.
- 16:531962, one of the more incredible races back in history,
- 16:58only because of Don Davis.
- 17:00Don Davis was a driver from Phoenix and was driving a dirt car.
- 17:05Everything was working well for Don.
- 17:07Qualified in the top 10, passed A.
- 17:09J.
- 17:09Foyt.
- 17:10A.
- 17:10J.
- 17:10Foyt was the Zen driver at that point.
- 17:13Won Indy in 61.
- 17:14Had problems in 62.
- 17:16Was the defending two time at that point national champion.
- 17:19Here comes Don Davis.
- 17:20Passes A.
- 17:21J.
- 17:21Foyt to lead.
- 17:22Incredible, and the crowd was going crazy.
- 17:25Here's this guy in this Chevy powered dirt car, just taking
- 17:29it to the roadsters that day.
- 17:30Don was literally dirt tracking it through the corners.
- 17:33Unfortunately, the right rear tire blew, and he spun.
- 17:36He already spun with AJ right behind him.
- 17:39AJ went to take the lead, but everybody was booing AJ.
- 17:42Because what they thought happened was AJ hit Don Davis.
- 17:46So he went to win the race, and you can see the expression on his face.
- 17:49And the reason why he has this impression, because he's being interviewed and the
- 17:53crowd is booing AJ, because they thought he booted Don Davis out of the race.
- 17:58Milwaukee is also known for the first rear engine victory in IndyCar racing
- 18:03with the iconic Lotus cars with Jim Clark on the left and Dan Gurney on the right.
- 18:07They qualified on the front row that day.
- 18:09Clark and then Gurney was second.
- 18:11People who might not know, how come Dan Gurney didn't do as
- 18:14well as Jimmy Clark that day?
- 18:16The reason why was they only had one set of the correct carburetors.
- 18:20At that time they were running basically a stock block, fair
- 18:22lane block engine and they only had one set of the correct carbs.
- 18:27So unfortunately Dan had to use another set of carburetors and he
- 18:31told me when he would go through the corners the car would bog and cough
- 18:34and then would pick up on the exit.
- 18:36So unfortunately he was running about a half a second behind Clark's
- 18:39time but they were so far ahead of the roadsters that he was still
- 18:42able to qualify on the first row.
- 18:45Eventually, Gurney finished third with AJ passing him.
- 18:48And this is the reason everybody loved Jimmy Clark.
- 18:51They asked Jimmy Clark why he didn't lap AJ Foyt.
- 18:54He said, it's one thing to beat a man, but you don't want to rub it in his face.
- 18:58So that's why he didn't lap AJ Foyt that day.
- 19:00Jim Hurtubise, 1964, is one of the most popular drivers at Milwaukee.
- 19:05The 1964 Wrex Mays 100 was one of the more popular races just because A.
- 19:10J.
- 19:10Foyt and Roger Ward and Jim Hurtubise waged an epic battle, dicing back
- 19:15and forth and back and forth.
- 19:17Unfortunately, coming out of Turn 4, Roger Ward's gearbox locked up.
- 19:21A.
- 19:21J.
- 19:21Foyt was able to avoid him, but unfortunately Hurtubise
- 19:24went over the right rear tire.
- 19:26The car hit the wall, Hurtabees was knocked out of the car.
- 19:29Luckily for Hurtabees, it happened right in front of the pit area.
- 19:32Pit crewmen and firemen were able to pull him out and put the car out.
- 19:35He might not have survived if it was at any other place on the track.
- 19:39Foyt would go on to win the race.
- 19:41Later that year, 1964, Mario Andretti made his first start in the
- 19:451964 Tony Bettenhausen, driving a lightweight Dean Van Lines Roadster.
- 19:49If you ever see A.
- 19:50J.
- 19:51and you don't know what to say, just bring up the dirt track race at Milwaukee.
- 19:54He'll start to smile.
- 19:55He'll soften up.
- 19:56A.
- 19:56J.
- 19:56figures this is probably his greatest drive.
- 19:591965 in August, his Lotus IndyCar didn't show up, and they had raced
- 20:04the previous Saturday at Springfield.
- 20:06Without the Lotus, A.
- 20:07J.
- 20:07said, well, let's unload the dirt car, let's see what we can do.
- 20:10And he went out to qualify, and Steve Stapp, who was a famous spring car builder
- 20:14and driver, was crewing for him that day.
- 20:16He pulls in after qualifying.
- 20:18He asked Steve how you did.
- 20:19He goes, aj, I think you're on the pole.
- 20:21AJ being AJ goes, you dumb.
- 20:23SOB, you can't even use it.
- 20:24A stopwatch.
- 20:25And sure enough, AJ got on the pole, so AJ with a dirt car.
- 20:29There's Dan Gurney in a Lotus Ford next to him.
- 20:32Went on to finish second.
- 20:33Fortunately, he had to make a a fuel stop later and Gordon
- 20:36Johncock went on to win the race.
- 20:38If you ask aj, he'll say, Lloyd Ruby won the race, but we don't correct aj.
- 20:41AJ won the finish second, but many that day, it's funny, it's one of
- 20:45those things where there's probably 35, 000 people, but if you survey,
- 20:49uh, racing fans in Wisconsin, about 100, 000 say they were at that race.
- 20:541954, when they repaved the racetrack, they commissioned a road course to be
- 20:58installed on the inside, and many SECA national races were held at the Milwaukee
- 21:02Mile in the 50s into the mid 1970s.
- 21:06If you ever talk to anybody who is involved in a professional
- 21:08level, especially with the racing, it's not because of the money.
- 21:11It's because of the people you meet in racing.
- 21:13There's a lot of people that you meet.
- 21:14And I think any of us who've been involved in race can definitely feel the same way.
- 21:18The Marchese is that's the Milwaukee pronunciation.
- 21:22It's actually Marchese.
- 21:23But people in Milwaukee say Marchese, and so instead of correcting them,
- 21:27they just went with Marchese.
- 21:28If any of you are Novi fans or fans of the Novi, the famous mechanic
- 21:33was Jean Marcenet, but when he got to Indy, he became Jean Marcenac.
- 21:37So it's one of those.
- 21:38Tom Marchese on the left.
- 21:40This is, uh, this, uh, This photo was taken about 1985 after he had retired
- 21:43from promoting, and that's John Cation at the right, who took over for the
- 21:46Marcheses and partnered with them in 1968.
- 21:49How that started was racing, there's a lot of unsavory people in racing in the
- 21:5330s, and especially on the promotion side, and him and his brother Carl
- 21:57promoted a midget race at the track in the late 1930s, and the fair board was
- 22:02so impressed how professionally they ran it, that they were businessmen.
- 22:05They were involved in food wholesaling in Milwaukee.
- 22:07And they were so impressed on how they handled themselves and handled the
- 22:10operation that the Fair Board went to them and presented them exclusive
- 22:14promotion rights to the track.
- 22:16So from that point on up until 1968, they had the exclusive
- 22:20promotional rights at the track.
- 22:21And then in 1968, they brought in John Cation to partner with them.
- 22:25They continued to promote at the track until 1983.
- 22:28Ed 20 Grand Steinbach.
- 22:31Not many people may recognize the name, but if you were, especially
- 22:34in the Midwest, in the 50s and 60s, you would recognize his voice.
- 22:38His full time job was race announcing, and he announced not only at Milwaukee,
- 22:42but he was from the Chicago area, and would announce Chicago area
- 22:46tracks, and also up at Road America.
- 22:48Road Racing fans may have heard there's a documentary made in the
- 22:51early 60s on the Scarabs, and 20 Grand is the one who's narrating it.
- 22:55The August races were held during the fair.
- 22:57So, when there weren't races, on those other days, there were, a
- 23:01fair park acts would come through.
- 23:02So it wasn't unusual for a lot of the acts to stick around for the race
- 23:06the next day and watch the races.
- 23:08Wisconsin Speedways Dinner.
- 23:10And this was a dinner that they would have before the Rex Maze.
- 23:13The weekend before the Rex Mays race, right after Indy, and a lot of the
- 23:17big shots of racing would show up.
- 23:18In the upper left, we have Augie Papps, and then we have Mel Kenyon,
- 23:22Kelly Arbor from the NASCAR world.
- 23:24That's Bill Johnson.
- 23:25He was a local modified driver and drove midgets.
- 23:27And then we have Don White, was a USAC stock car driver from Keokuk, Iowa.
- 23:31Of course, we have super techs, AJ Foyt, Andy Granatelli.
- 23:34If you're going to have a party, you've got to have Andy there.
- 23:35And then, of course, Tony Holman from the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
- 23:391968, June 9th.
- 23:41Famous race, unfortunately, that was also the race that Ronnie
- 23:44Duman was killed at in 1968.
- 23:46Also the turban cars were there.
- 23:47Controversial to some people, but I actually brought racing to people.
- 23:51I brought it onto the sports pages.
- 23:53Lloyd Ruby that year, 1968, won both races.
- 23:56Won the June race in the 150 mile an hour and the Tibetan House
- 23:59in 200 driving for Gene White.
- 24:01That's Bob Harkey in 1970 running next to Al Unzer in
- 24:05the 1970 Tony Bettenhausen 200.
- 24:08That's the last dirt car to race in a national championship
- 24:11IndyCar race at Milwaukee.
- 24:13Stock car racing was huge at the Milwaukee Mile.
- 24:16This is a race from 1948.
- 24:17This is the first AAA sanctioned race that was held at Milwaukee.
- 24:21And it was truly the number one racetrack for the North on the USAC and AAA side.
- 24:27Yes, they did race Edsels.
- 24:28That's an Edsel on the left there.
- 24:29And that's Don White in the number three Seiko Lube car.
- 24:33There's a shot of Eddie Sachs and A.
- 24:34J.
- 24:34Foyt taken in 1962 or 63.
- 24:38What was populated with the USAC series.
- 24:41You kind of see what's happening now in the NASCAR Nationwide Series.
- 24:45In the USAC Series, you would have a lot of the IndyCar
- 24:47drivers race at the bigger races.
- 24:49Here you see Eddie Sachs and A.
- 24:51J.
- 24:51Foyt racing at USAC Stock Car, known for IndyCar racing.
- 24:55Because the IndyCar racers would race in the Stock Car Series, NASCAR
- 24:58really never cultivated their base.
- 25:00The Don Whites, the Butch Hartman, and those drivers.
- 25:04This is a shot of Norm Nelson, who was one of those drivers.
- 25:06This is strictly a stock car driver.
- 25:08There's a shot of his transport rig.
- 25:10No tractor trailers in those days.
- 25:12And that's how they used to go to the races back then.
- 25:14That's a two car team.
- 25:15That's a factory back, Plymouth back team.
- 25:17That's Jim Hurtubise's car up on the top of the Norm's car from 1965.
- 25:221968, the Miller 200.
- 25:24Many people think that this is actually the first corporate race sponsorship.
- 25:28In 1968, Miller, they sponsored a fire crew back in the day, and they had a
- 25:32lot of ties with the Milwaukee Mile.
- 25:34And they approached John Cation, who we saw with Tom Marchese.
- 25:38About sponsoring the race and what that did, it added a large
- 25:42purse for a stock car race.
- 25:44This is probably, this was the largest race on the USAC stock car side at
- 25:47the time, kind of catapulted the race and Milwaukee into the national scene.
- 25:52So here is a program from 1971 and in order to receive the accessory
- 25:57awards, you had to run a large Miller Hi Life sticker on your car.
- 26:01And Armin Krieger, a lot of his shots are used in here.
- 26:04He's in the National Spring Car Hall of Fame as a photographer shot from
- 26:08the late thirties up until 1993 was a family friend and was a neat guy.
- 26:12And as a good photographer, you see, he's probably already got the shot
- 26:15of Larry Berwanger hitting the wall.
- 26:17Now he's checking to see what else is happening.
- 26:19The Milwaukee Mile held more races with the Dodge Daytona on the left and
- 26:23the Plymouth Superbird than any other.
- 26:25People may think Daytona, Talladega, NASCAR restricted the cars in 1971
- 26:30by restricting their engine size.
- 26:32And then by 1972, they were outright banned.
- 26:34However, USAC did not ban the cars and 12 races were held.
- 26:38at the Milwaukee mile for each year between 1970 and 1972.
- 26:42And late 60s and early 70s was probably one of the biggest
- 26:46attendance years for the Milwaukee mile so much so they even added
- 26:49auxiliary bleachers outside turn two.
- 26:52That's Bobby Unzer's in Nichols engineering Plymouth Superbird 1972.
- 26:57This car held the track record at Milwaukee for many years.
- 27:00Trouble on the horizon, 1970, the USAC series decided to bring in pony cars.
- 27:05You could run a small block pony car, such as a Chevrolet Camaro, with a
- 27:09smaller engine size, but with lighter weight, next to the Hemi's that were
- 27:13being run like that one right there, with Paul Felder and a Dodge Magnum,
- 27:17which previously was a Dodge Charger.
- 27:19USAC stock car series was, for a while was, you know, hand in
- 27:22hand with the NASCAR series.
- 27:24However, by the early 70s, the evolution slowed down on the USAC side.
- 27:28Whereas a NASCAR was continuing engineering, cars were getting
- 27:31faster and whatnot, it was more stagnant on the USAC side.
- 27:34Here's a good example.
- 27:35This is Dave Watson winning a race in 1977.
- 27:38That car started in 1972 as a Chevy Nova.
- 27:41All they did was just re skin it, put a new body, a Buick Skylark
- 27:44body, and he was winning races.
- 27:46In 1978, another racing series challenged USAC at Milwaukee Mile, and that
- 27:51was the American Speed Association.
- 27:53That's Mark Martin as a 19 year old rookie.
- 27:55These were lighter cars, faster cars in the USAC series too.
- 27:59More and more drivers started to migrate from the USAC series to ASA.
- 28:05Here's Dick Trickle after winning the Miller 200.
- 28:08ASA, with Rex Robbins as the head of it, was really good with promoting races,
- 28:12and he would try different things.
- 28:14Here's a perfect example.
- 28:15Who else would have Dick Trickle and Alan Kowicki taking
- 28:18a boxing match before a race?
- 28:20NASCAR came to the Milwaukee Medal for the first time in 1984.
- 28:24Here's a shot of Alan Kowicki making his first NASCAR start at Milwaukee.
- 28:27The Grand National Series, as then it was called, was not the same
- 28:31Grand National Series you see today.
- 28:33It was definitely a lesser series, and did not draw the crowds.
- 28:36Pfft.
- 28:37Stock car races faded away after 85, USAC did.
- 28:40NASCAR left it in 1984 and 1985, returned in 1993, ran at the track until 2009,
- 28:47and then moved to Road America in 2010.
- 28:49I mentioned it earlier, the Quarter Mile Dirt Track.
- 28:51You saw it in that one aerial shot.
- 28:53That was the Quarter Mile Dirt Track.
- 28:55And on Thursday nights, they would race modifies at the track.
- 28:58And this was quite a popular series that ran.
- 29:01Some people may have heard of Slinger.
- 29:02The Slinger Raceway in Wisconsin, they would run on Sunday nights, and then
- 29:05they would also run at Hale's Corners, which also ran midgets, on Friday nights.
- 29:09So, these were very popular for kids growing up, and a
- 29:12lot of the heroes to this day.
- 29:13Billy Englehart, who is, who drove Indy cars, that was his
- 29:16hero right there, the mouse.
- 29:18Miles Mouse Milius.
- 29:19Many people point at the split in 1970 and 1979 with USAC and CART and everything.
- 29:251971, USAC had a corporate sponsor, which was Marlboro.
- 29:29You can almost take a look at this.
- 29:30This might have been an early shot over the bulk, so to speak, or misstep by USAC.
- 29:361971, Phillip Morris sponsored the whole series, put a lot
- 29:40of money into the series.
- 29:42The only caveat they wanted was they wanted to be the exclusive
- 29:46cigarette sponsor on the series.
- 29:47Viceroy was also sponsoring the cars for Parnelli Jones.
- 29:51USAC didn't want to offend or take that sponsorship away from Parnelli Jones,
- 29:56so they told Marlboro to walk basically.
- 29:59That same year, Winston also started to sponsor NASCAR.
- 30:02NASCAR did not have an issue with telling other teams who had another sponsor.
- 30:06You need to take a walk because he understood the growth that was
- 30:10possible with his corporate sponsorship sponsoring the whole series.
- 30:14Thus, after 1971, Barbara walked away from the sponsorship at USAC.
- 30:18A.
- 30:18J.
- 30:18Foyt, 1965, told you about how he finished second at Milwaukee in the dirt car.
- 30:23He also did the same thing in 1969, however, the cars were advancing
- 30:28that much more and did not have the success that he had in 1965, and I
- 30:32believe he finished ninth in that race.
- 30:351972, once again, there's the viceroy car, Parnelli Jones, that was driven by
- 30:39Mario Andretti, the super team, there's Joe Leonard also, Mark Donahue, after
- 30:431972 Indy 500 where he won, also, this was his only race at Milwaukee, at the
- 30:491972 Wrex Mays 150, people say Mark Donahue wasn't an oval track driver, he
- 30:54did pretty well though, he finished second in his first and only race at Milwaukee.
- 30:581974, Johnny Rutherford won his first race at Milwaukee driving the Team McLaren car.
- 31:03And that's Roger McCluskey who is defending national
- 31:06championship running alongside.
- 31:08There's Johnny in victory lane.
- 31:09And that's Jack Baker, he was a local radio announcer who was also the track
- 31:13announcer for many years at Milwaukee.
- 31:15Had the greatest leisure suits of anybody.
- 31:18There's Super Tex.
- 31:19That's A.
- 31:19J.
- 31:19Foyt in 1974.
- 31:20He won a race in 75 on his way to his sixth national championship in 75.
- 31:26And also won races in 1979.
- 31:28However, only won four races at Milwaukee.
- 31:30Only.
- 31:31And there's Bobby Unzer in the Dan Gurney, Jorgensen Steel Eagle.
- 31:35Had the track record at Milwaukee for many years.
- 31:37Not only in a stock car, but also an Indy car.
- 31:40Why a Tom Steeve in 1975 Indy 500 photo?
- 31:43As a young kid, after this race, they said Tom Steeve walked away and was not hurt.
- 31:47I was gonna kick out like, oh, he wasn't really hurt.
- 31:49Well, he had to skip the next race at Milwaukee because he wasn't hurt.
- 31:53In August of that year, he came to the track and I was walking
- 31:56down Pitt Road with my dad.
- 31:58There's Tom Sneva sitting on the wall.
- 31:59So we're talking to Tom Sneva and he pulls back his driver's suit, takes off his
- 32:04watch, and you can see the flash burns there that he received in that crash.
- 32:08He wasn't hurt, but he had a heck of a concussion.
- 32:10Rick Mears first race was at Milwaukee at the 1978 Wrex Mays 150.
- 32:15Al Unser, who had won the Indy 500 the week before, ran out
- 32:19of gas with a few laps to go.
- 32:20Rick Mears, as a rookie, takes the lead, and out of turn three, he ran out of gas.
- 32:25Crossed the finish line at about 50 miles an hour, probably even less, with
- 32:28Johnny Rutherford fast approaching.
- 32:30But Rick was able to win his first race.
- 32:33This is one of the most famous races, too, at Milwaukee.
- 32:361981 Wrex Mays Classic.
- 32:38That's Mike Mosley and the Dan Gurney.
- 32:40John Ward designed Eagle.
- 32:42Chevy Stock Block.
- 32:43He was unable to qualify for the race.
- 32:45He blew an engine, and they had to replace the engine.
- 32:47Saturday afternoon, Saturday night, they got the car ready.
- 32:50They put the car at the back of the pack, and he went to win the race.
- 32:53The man on the refueling rig, that's Billy Vukovic, who had raced the previous
- 32:58week at Indy but did not have a ride.
- 32:59And that's Billy Vukovic refueling the car, and Stan Fox
- 33:02is changing the left front tire.
- 33:04I thought, that's a heck of a pit crew to have.
- 33:06He had two drivers in the Indy 500 the previous week, and
- 33:08they're working on a pit crew.
- 33:10Rocket Rick.
- 33:10There's Rick Mears after winning the race in 1990.
- 33:13Newman House Racing.
- 33:15Seven wins between 1985 and 2006, including five out of six wins between
- 33:2091 and 96 with a variety of drivers.
- 33:22There's a famous shot.
- 33:23There's a reason why I love this shot.
- 33:25That's the victory podium.
- 33:26Of course, Michael won the race.
- 33:27John Andretti finished second.
- 33:29And there's Mario in third.
- 33:30Mario's a competitor.
- 33:31Mario wants to be in that top podium.
- 33:33You can tell in that shot right there.
- 33:35No family pride at that moment.
- 33:36That came later.
- 33:37Nigel Mania, 1993.
- 33:39That year was my first year professionally working at Milwaukee as a videographer.
- 33:44And that was true Nigel Mania.
- 33:46Basically, they told me, just take photos, get video of Nigel.
- 33:49And it was a true zoo.
- 33:51Wherever he walked, there was a person.
- 33:53Crowd of people, they actually had to put two state troopers
- 33:56on them for the weekend.
- 33:57The media crush was that big.
- 33:581992 Formula One champion.
- 34:00He wasn't able to come to contract terms with Williams and was able to
- 34:04come over to the United States, drive for Newman Haas, dominated this guy.
- 34:09Never drove an oval race before.
- 34:11Almost killed himself at Phoenix.
- 34:12Learned a valuable lesson there by not taking them too seriously.
- 34:16Learned, okay, you got to take these things seriously.
- 34:18And from that point on, just really took to the ovals.
- 34:22And, uh, one at Milwaukee, as well as Loudoun, and just dominated the year.
- 34:27Speaking of domination, Penske domination.
- 34:29Of course, everybody remembers in 1994, the Mercedes that dominated the race
- 34:33at Indianapolis with Allenser winning.
- 34:36The following week, they went to Milwaukee.
- 34:38With the normal engine that they were using on the cart series at that point.
- 34:41However, Penske dominated the race with Allens are winning the race.
- 34:45All Tracy and Emerson filled up all day filling out the podium as a light rain.
- 34:49You can tell it's wet there and it just started to rain with five laps
- 34:52of race and it called the race.
- 34:53The Milwaukee Mile today, it's sad, but I still get people who come up to me
- 34:59and go, what's happening at the mile?
- 35:00And I say, well, they, they still run an IndyCar race there.
- 35:03The eyes on, you know, IndyCar series runs there and there's a
- 35:06late model race that runs there.
- 35:08And then of course we have that Harry Miller meet, but the IndyCars, the
- 35:11attendance kept growing every year in the last few years since Michael Andretti's
- 35:14group has taken over the race in 2011.
- 35:17So it's growing.
- 35:18This year, Will Power won the race for Penske and went on to
- 35:21win the national championship.
- 35:23If you get a chance, if you're in the Midwest in July, the Harry Miller
- 35:26Club vintage IndyCar event is held.
- 35:29Usually it's the week after the 4th of July.
- 35:31That's the easiest way to remember.
- 35:32And we have anywhere between 50 and 60 vintage IndyCars from pretty
- 35:37much 1911 all the way up to 1965.
- 35:39It's all front engine Miller race cars.
- 35:41That's the primary focus dedicated to Harry Miller, who his car is dominated in
- 35:46the IndyCars in the 1920s and developed the four cylinder Miller engine, which
- 35:50became the Offenhauser engine, which was used in IndyCar race up until late
- 35:53seventies, and it was started by Dave Eline, Chuck Davis, and Bob Sutherland.
- 35:58Those three collectors and still runs today.
- 36:00And this year we had our 20th anniversary.
- 36:02Milwaukee Mount videos.
- 36:03The shots of that, my father Bill, unfortunately he was passed, but
- 36:07shot movies for the Marcheses.
- 36:09And how that came about is, my dad was shooting video and there was an
- 36:13accident and a fella came up to him and said, are you shooting for anybody?
- 36:17And it was Mike Billings, who was the number two guy in the fire crew.
- 36:21He goes, no.
- 36:21And he says, I'll tell you what, why don't you shoot videos or shoot
- 36:24movies of the cars and that, but also make sure when you shoot the,
- 36:27shoot us doing the cleanup on it.
- 36:28And they used it as training films.
- 36:30The safety crew at Milwaukee had a very good record for the track.
- 36:34And nobody could get to the scene quicker than the Milwaukee mile guys.
- 36:38And they were very proud of that for many years.
- 36:40So I got those videos are available, both stock car and the IndyCar one.
- 36:49Thanks to your brother guiding me.
- 36:51Who did one on Watkins Glen, along with Bill Green.
- 36:53I did one on Road America.
- 36:55It's funny, you know, the Milwaukee Mile guy doing a book on Road
- 36:58America, but that is my second home.
- 37:00I truly love the racetrack and everything that's involved around it too.
- 37:04It's, it's been a love affair and they say you can't serve two lovers, but
- 37:08with the Milwaukee Mile Road America, we're very blessed in Wisconsin to
- 37:11have two such high quality racetracks.
- 37:13Thank you very much.
- 37:14I appreciate it.
- 37:19Well, Steve, thank you.
- 37:20I think they would have kept me here all afternoon.
- 37:23Your depth of knowledge is just incredible.
- 37:26This man hides his light under a bushel.
- 37:28As the evening went on and the afternoon went on, we realized the
- 37:31depth and the variety of racing that Steve is very knowledgeable on, and
- 37:35we are thrilled that you came here to Watkins Glen, and we're going to make
- 37:38you a Watkins Glen Honorary Citizen.
- 37:40Thank you.
- 37:40So not only Milwaukee and Elkhart Lake, but Watkins Glen.
- 37:43Steve will be available for more questions and sign his book if you would
- 37:47like to buy one of his books and we can converse over in the center further.
- 37:50No, if you guys have any questions, feel free to bend my ear and
- 37:53then I got the videos too.
- 37:55Videos are a labor of love for me and they cover the both the
- 37:58stock cars and the Indy cars.
- 38:00I got 20 years of Indy car footage on there and then the stock cars is
- 38:04a variety of stock car videos too.
- 38:06Thanks again.
- 38:06Thank you.
- 38:07Appreciate it.
- 38:07Thanks guys.
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