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- 0:00Speaker 1: Jeguarris, did you don't Jack Jack Morris? Did you Jack Warris?
- 0:05Speaker 1: Drive Time right? And sex steps that John says it
- 0:10Speaker 1: actually Jaguarris Drive Time starts right now. It's always one
- 0:17Speaker 1: of those games where after when you're in the locker room,
- 0:20Speaker 1: you know there's really you really can't say anything because
- 0:22Speaker 1: you just put everything on the line. It's been physical,
- 0:24Speaker 1: and you know that if you don't show up and
- 0:26Speaker 1: you're not ready to play, they're gonna knock you on
- 0:28Speaker 1: your ass. And you know, I think our players know that,
- 0:31Speaker 1: and they've got to get themselves ready to play. Good morning, man,
- 0:36Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack's Drive Time on a Thursday, brought to
- 0:39Speaker 1: you by the the Fields Motor Group and this week
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- 0:52Speaker 1: canna get that right? Um? How are you this morning? No?
- 0:54Speaker 1: I gotta get it right. It's called sponsors. I have confidences.
- 0:57Speaker 1: What do we have about six more weeks of this show? Yeah, exactly.
- 1:01Speaker 1: By the time we get to the end of the season,
- 1:02Speaker 1: I think I will probably have it down it was
- 1:04Speaker 1: interesting about that bite Um, and I've been talking to
- 1:07Speaker 1: you about the Steelers all week and when you play
- 1:11Speaker 1: the Steelers, and look, this is intrinsically a physical game.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Every team in the league talks about being a physical team.
- 1:18Speaker 1: So when you talk to the players in this locker
- 1:20Speaker 1: room and said, when you play the Steelers, you know
- 1:22Speaker 1: you're getting, you know, a physical game. In fact, there
- 1:26Speaker 1: was a stat that we tracked years ago, but what
- 1:29Speaker 1: the Jaguars did the next week after they played the Steelers,
- 1:31Speaker 1: because the Steelers are one of those teams that just
- 1:33Speaker 1: beat you up trying to figure out how to explain it.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Because everybody tackles right, everybody runs the ball. It isn't
- 1:39Speaker 1: that with the Steelers, And Doug kind of laid it out.
- 1:41Speaker 1: It isn't the guys up front. It's the linebackers and
- 1:44Speaker 1: the safeties and the corners and the way they play
- 1:47Speaker 1: the game right, because not every cornerback in the league
- 1:51Speaker 1: is a physical run stuff in corner, but that's the
- 1:54Speaker 1: style they get. Not every safety, and not strong safeties
- 1:56Speaker 1: are unique obviously in that in that sense, but not
- 1:59Speaker 1: every free safety gonna come up and put a hit
- 2:01Speaker 1: on you. And he said, when you play these dealers,
- 2:03Speaker 1: you know that their personnel from the front to the back,
- 2:05Speaker 1: from one to eleven on defense. He's going to come
- 2:08Speaker 1: and bring that mentality. And that's what makes it different
- 2:12Speaker 1: that you can't find anywhere on the field where you're
- 2:14Speaker 1: not going to get pop right and mentally, they were saying,
- 2:17Speaker 1: when you look at Ben Roethlisberger, he's gonna find those wholes.
- 2:20Speaker 1: So if you one play, one bus, one mental mistake,
- 2:23Speaker 1: you're gonna get exposed right away. He is so very good.
- 2:27Speaker 1: So let's shift right into big things. Because talking to
- 2:30Speaker 1: players in the locker room yesterday, but let's start with
- 2:32Speaker 1: it and we'll go to it. Yes, the big thing
- 2:34Speaker 1: one is last season. In the moral of the story
- 2:36Speaker 1: is last season doesn't matter. We've heard that for months now,
- 2:38Speaker 1: going all the way back to training camp with Doug
- 2:41Speaker 1: Row when he says, this is a new year, this
- 2:43Speaker 1: is a new team. We can no longer look at
- 2:45Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen anymore. And you look at last year
- 2:47Speaker 1: in the two wins against Pittsburgh, a thirty to nine win,
- 2:51Speaker 1: two huge win in the playoffs. It was awesome. It
- 2:54Speaker 1: was the staple of two thousand seventeen. But we know
- 2:57Speaker 1: that both of these teams aren't the same team anymore. No,
- 3:00Speaker 1: this team obviously is not the same team that it
- 3:02Speaker 1: was last year. Uh And and this this team in
- 3:06Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is playing it. How do you describe it? They
- 3:09Speaker 1: look like the Steelers of old. Levy and Bell could
- 3:12Speaker 1: obviously run with power, but that wasn't his thing. James
- 3:15Speaker 1: Conner is a power runner, and that's the way the
- 3:17Speaker 1: Steelers like to play. They want to jam that ball.
- 3:19Speaker 1: And they've got the best receiver in football, Antonio Brown
- 3:22Speaker 1: outside and Juju Smith Schuster, who is a mismatch. Yeah,
- 3:27Speaker 1: and he's a mismatch for a lot of people because
- 3:29Speaker 1: of his size and his quickness when he lines up
- 3:31Speaker 1: in this lot. Not the same. Here's the thing about it.
- 3:35Speaker 1: And this is what Tyler Shallley, who is a man
- 3:37Speaker 1: of few words. I mean, he says, the Jaguars new
- 3:40Speaker 1: starting center because of Brandon Linder's injury, said last year
- 3:45Speaker 1: doesn't matter. So you can try from a couple of
- 3:48Speaker 1: different angles, the matchups from last year, the results from
- 3:51Speaker 1: last year, the Steelers being pissed off about the results
- 3:53Speaker 1: from last year, coming in with something a little extra
- 3:56Speaker 1: from last year, and ug said it all off season,
- 4:01Speaker 1: and maybe that's where Shatley got it, but he said
- 4:03Speaker 1: it doesn't matter at all what they did last year,
- 4:10Speaker 1: and so much has changed since then. I think if
- 4:12Speaker 1: this game happened earlier in the season, maybe when the
- 4:15Speaker 1: Patriots game happened, there'd be some of that because it
- 4:17Speaker 1: is still fresh on their minds. But so much has changed,
- 4:20Speaker 1: so much games have gone by that it really doesn't
- 4:22Speaker 1: matter anymore. It seems like ages Ago. Connor is part
- 4:25Speaker 1: of it, obviously because he's replaced Levan Bell. And before
- 4:28Speaker 1: you think, well, I mean Levan Bell is a premier player,
- 4:31Speaker 1: maybe the best back in the league last year. You
- 4:33Speaker 1: know a guy who could give you a hundred yards
- 4:35Speaker 1: rushing and a hundred yard receiving in a game. He's
- 4:37Speaker 1: that good. Connor has ten touchdowns on the year. It's
- 4:40Speaker 1: not much of a job, and he's a big, two
- 4:42Speaker 1: thirty pound bruising back who all of a sudden, now
- 4:46Speaker 1: you've got to have your linebackers in the gaps, and
- 4:51Speaker 1: so that makes all kinds of space for Vance McDonald,
- 4:54Speaker 1: who we've seen is more than willing to play a
- 4:56Speaker 1: very physical style. Everybody remembers the Monday and I play
- 4:59Speaker 1: where he just put his hand in and trucked the
- 5:01Speaker 1: defensive back. Jesse James isn't bad either. These are big
- 5:05Speaker 1: tight ends, and we saw tight ends last week in
- 5:07Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Give the Jaguars bits a lot of trouble,
- 5:12Speaker 1: and then you look on the defensive side. Now they
- 5:13Speaker 1: have not replaced Ryan Schas here. I mean nothing against
- 5:17Speaker 1: John Bostick, but he's not Chase here. She's here was
- 5:20Speaker 1: a special player. But Dupree and what on the outside
- 5:23Speaker 1: are epic pass rushers. And every time I turn on
- 5:26Speaker 1: ESPN and watch highlights, I see stefon to it and
- 5:29Speaker 1: Cameron Heyward wrecking every right, So you think that Jeremy Parnell,
- 5:34Speaker 1: you know, can negate to it, although that's not an
- 5:36Speaker 1: easy thing to do. But over here you've got Eric
- 5:39Speaker 1: Flowers or Josh Walker, who's gotta handle Cameron Heyward who
- 5:42Speaker 1: was an All Pro. So it just it never stops
- 5:44Speaker 1: with this defense. And of course, the size that they've
- 5:47Speaker 1: got and the physical nature that they play not I
- 5:51Speaker 1: don't they're not I don't. I don't say they're better
- 5:56Speaker 1: than last year on defense, because when you have a
- 5:59Speaker 1: guy like Ryan Chase year and he's not in them,
- 6:02Speaker 1: you can't be better. But there are other guys out
- 6:04Speaker 1: there who are playing better than they did last year
- 6:07Speaker 1: and are filling the whole stepping out dupre and what
- 6:09Speaker 1: in particular are they are minimizing the damage done without
- 6:14Speaker 1: Chase ear because they're creating so much pressure in other
- 6:17Speaker 1: spaces and taking your attention away from that. Yeah, it's
- 6:19Speaker 1: gonna be mentally, it's gonna be every single play honed in,
- 6:23Speaker 1: no mistakes, to give yourself a chance to win this. Basically,
- 6:26Speaker 1: last year the Jaguars matched up well. But you can't
- 6:29Speaker 1: look at the Jaguars this year and say, well, the
- 6:31Speaker 1: Jaguars matchup well with these guys. Right. We talked about
- 6:35Speaker 1: identity every single week. It's different identity this year. Totally
- 6:38Speaker 1: different match So let's talk about matchups all right. This
- 6:41Speaker 1: season big thing too, But stand out to me about
- 6:44Speaker 1: this season in this game is the Steelers offense versus
- 6:48Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense. We saw the Jaguars defense played the
- 6:51Speaker 1: first half of last week. They can't play anywhere near
- 6:54Speaker 1: that because when you look at the Steelers on offense,
- 6:56Speaker 1: they have so many weapons, so many guys that can
- 6:59Speaker 1: expos those busted coverages that we saw last week. Those
- 7:02Speaker 1: can't happen this week. No, Now, you know what this
- 7:05Speaker 1: game comes down to. It comes down to turnovers for
- 7:08Speaker 1: the Jaguars. It's about creating those opportunities for the offense,
- 7:12Speaker 1: which has been struggling for sure. And last year, in
- 7:14Speaker 1: those two games, they had seven key takeaways. Right, they
- 7:18Speaker 1: scored three defensive touchdowns. You've got to be able to
- 7:23Speaker 1: replicate that. Maybe not the defensive touchdowns, but you've got
- 7:26Speaker 1: to well, yeah, without a doubt, you'll take the points,
- 7:29Speaker 1: that's not an issue. But what you have to be
- 7:31Speaker 1: able to do is take the ball away. Shorten the game,
- 7:35Speaker 1: shorten the number. And I think of giving you this
- 7:37Speaker 1: number that the average team gets eleven possessions in a game, Well,
- 7:42Speaker 1: you gotta take two or three away and only give
- 7:44Speaker 1: Roethlisberger eight or nine and give your offense with Lendon
- 7:48Speaker 1: Fournett that shorty to look like it did previously based
- 7:53Speaker 1: on what we saw last week. You've got to be
- 7:55Speaker 1: able to give them possessions in order to maximum as
- 8:00Speaker 1: your opportunities. But you you you gotta get the turnovers.
- 8:04Speaker 1: That's going to be the difference. Because Roethlisberger is absolutely
- 8:07Speaker 1: on fire right now. He looks like an m v
- 8:09Speaker 1: P candidate. The way that he played against the Panthers.
- 8:11Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that game you saw,
- 8:13Speaker 1: but he's always been calm in the pocket because he's
- 8:16Speaker 1: so big. But there was his stat that Jack del
- 8:19Speaker 1: Rio used to track when he was the head coach here,
- 8:21Speaker 1: and that was the completion percentage of Ben Roethlisberger after
- 8:26Speaker 1: he got hit, and he tracked it as going up well,
- 8:30Speaker 1: which is unreal, right, So, I mean, here's a guy,
- 8:32Speaker 1: what is Roethlisberger. He's in his NFL season, which you
- 8:37Speaker 1: start to think at that point, guys start to protect
- 8:39Speaker 1: themselves a little bit. You know, they feel their humanity,
- 8:43Speaker 1: they feel their vulnerability more than they ever have. Not him,
- 8:48Speaker 1: he at least watching that game against Carolina, he was
- 8:51Speaker 1: completely in control. And I guess if I was six
- 8:53Speaker 1: ft six and what do they list him at six
- 8:56Speaker 1: six to forty And he looks bigger than that. He does.
- 8:59Speaker 1: He looks taller than that. That's taller, bigger, thicker. It
- 9:02Speaker 1: just doesn't purely he's worried at all. So now you've
- 9:05Speaker 1: got a pass rush that has not been the same
- 9:07Speaker 1: as it was last year, going up against a good
- 9:10Speaker 1: offensive line. It's got to find a way to impact him.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Tip of ball, force a fumble, get your hand in there,
- 9:17Speaker 1: rip it out. You've got to create positive momentum for yourself, right,
- 9:21Speaker 1: And I think momentum is huge. I was going to
- 9:22Speaker 1: say that with turnover, as we talked about, yes, getting
- 9:24Speaker 1: more possessions, but especially in this home crowd, when everyone's
- 9:28Speaker 1: upset about the flex game, getting a turnover and getting
- 9:30Speaker 1: that momentum going here, it's huge. Now. It's also a
- 9:33Speaker 1: perfect time for Leonard, for Neck to come back, because
- 9:35Speaker 1: the one way that you can negate the Steelers is
- 9:38Speaker 1: to beat them at their own game, pound the ball
- 9:42Speaker 1: and in that in that ball game in Pittsburgh last year,
- 9:45Speaker 1: the numbers were inflated by the ninety yard run at
- 9:48Speaker 1: the end, but the Daguars were still in October, able
- 9:51Speaker 1: to control the line of scrimmage, move the change. There
- 9:53Speaker 1: was one drive in the third quarter where they ran
- 9:56Speaker 1: the ball eleven times and converted three times on third down,
- 10:00Speaker 1: and it to me as impressive as anything in that game.
- 10:03Speaker 1: The turnovers, the ninety yard run, the leap over, the
- 10:06Speaker 1: this with Mike Mitchell right, Lufford Leonard was that drive
- 10:10Speaker 1: where they just beat the Steelers at their own game
- 10:13Speaker 1: now stuck to their game plan that they decided they
- 10:15Speaker 1: wanted to do. Run the ball. Now it's not as
- 10:17Speaker 1: easy to do because you don't have Brandon Linder, but
- 10:21Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley was the starting center last year in October
- 10:23Speaker 1: when they had that drive that I just mentioned. It
- 10:26Speaker 1: looks like Eric Flowers is going to get more reps
- 10:28Speaker 1: on the practice field this week because of a of
- 10:30Speaker 1: a lower leg injury that that is slowing down Josh Walker.
- 10:35Speaker 1: You've got to be able to control the line of
- 10:36Speaker 1: scrimmage with Burnett, and you've got to be able to
- 10:41Speaker 1: get takeaways. And conversely, do I need to say it,
- 10:44Speaker 1: don't turn it over? Do not do that. Don't turn
- 10:47Speaker 1: it over. If you have those things going for you,
- 10:48Speaker 1: you've got you got a good opportunity on Sunday. Yeah,
- 10:51Speaker 1: And when Blake spoke to the media sterday, it seemed
- 10:53Speaker 1: that he was confident even though Brandon Linder is down.
- 10:55Speaker 1: It seemed that he was confident that Shotley has had
- 10:57Speaker 1: experience in this game against this team. Well, so when
- 11:01Speaker 1: you play Pittsburgh, it's the mental game as much as anything, right,
- 11:04Speaker 1: I mean, the physical side of it is obvious But
- 11:07Speaker 1: the mental side is with this defense, with the way
- 11:09Speaker 1: that they executed. It isn't just that they've got players
- 11:12Speaker 1: like t J. Watt and Bud Dupree and Cameron Hayward
- 11:15Speaker 1: and steffont to it. It's that Joe Hayden can come
- 11:18Speaker 1: on the blitz or Morgan Burnett the safety can come
- 11:21Speaker 1: on the blitz. Who's coming, where are they coming? How
- 11:23Speaker 1: many are coming from? Right? It's it's I mean, you
- 11:27Speaker 1: have to almost be You've got to be able to
- 11:30Speaker 1: understand what they're thinking, which is incredibly difficult to do
- 11:33Speaker 1: because their defensive coordinator is always moving things around. It's
- 11:40Speaker 1: I wondered last year that was my concern going in
- 11:43Speaker 1: in October. How does a guy who steps onto the
- 11:46Speaker 1: practice field Wednesday amass the knowledge, the understanding, the wisdom
- 11:52Speaker 1: if you will, to see what this dealers are doing
- 11:54Speaker 1: and make those calls. But I thought either a tremendous
- 11:57Speaker 1: job last year. I asked him about it in the
- 11:59Speaker 1: locker room yesterday and again, man a few words. He
- 12:02Speaker 1: didn't you know, he didn't want to overplay it. Um,
- 12:05Speaker 1: But Chatlie's a smart guy, is a really smart guy.
- 12:07Speaker 1: He's also maybe the strongest guy on this team, which
- 12:10Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be to hold up against Javon Hargrave,
- 12:12Speaker 1: who doesn't look at six two and three or five
- 12:16Speaker 1: like the biggest guy, the most difficult guy lined right
- 12:19Speaker 1: up on your nose and there's three four. Um. But
- 12:21Speaker 1: he's a bear of a man. So he's got to
- 12:23Speaker 1: with this guy in his face, figure out what's going on,
- 12:27Speaker 1: translate that to the rest of the offensive line and
- 12:30Speaker 1: be right, and then everybody has to execute it. It's
- 12:33Speaker 1: it's a bear. So it's quite a to do list. Yeah,
- 12:35Speaker 1: I'm glad. It's nothing to run the ball, create takeaways,
- 12:41Speaker 1: don't turn it over. Pretty simple list. Key to sex success,
- 12:44Speaker 1: pretty simple list. Alright, Big thing three is postseason. We're
- 12:48Speaker 1: looking at the Steelers here and the thoughts that they
- 12:50Speaker 1: might be a Super Bowl contender. We saw on Thursday
- 12:53Speaker 1: Night Football last week they completely embarrassed the Carolina Panthers,
- 12:56Speaker 1: who are a good team and came in and we
- 12:58Speaker 1: all thought that was gonna be a close siding game.
- 13:01Speaker 1: They completely blew them out of water. So they were
- 13:03Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender last year obviously. Uh, they come
- 13:06Speaker 1: in here with a chip on their shoulder and they
- 13:08Speaker 1: will I mean, there's no doubt there's some guys on
- 13:09Speaker 1: that team that they didn't like. They didn't like getting
- 13:12Speaker 1: beat twice at home last year. And this is a
- 13:14Speaker 1: team that is perennially with Ben Roethlisberger going to be
- 13:18Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender. He's one two of them. He's
- 13:21Speaker 1: been a super Bowl always, always, always relevant. They come
- 13:25Speaker 1: in here with some energy after this one point explosion
- 13:27Speaker 1: and the way that they took apart Cam Newton in
- 13:29Speaker 1: that group. You see they hit there. Stefan too, really
- 13:32Speaker 1: had a monster game, and the stadium is going to
- 13:35Speaker 1: have a distinctly black and gold flavor to it. So
- 13:39Speaker 1: they're a super Bowl contender. Turns out this year you're not.
- 13:43Speaker 1: You're not the same, you are not, but you have
- 13:47Speaker 1: to have that mentality, and I think the guys in
- 13:50Speaker 1: this locker room do. We did not hear from the
- 13:52Speaker 1: heartbeat of the defense yesterday. Um Telvin didn't talk and
- 13:56Speaker 1: he normally does on Wednesday. I'm hopeful that that is
- 14:00Speaker 1: an indication that he is hyper focused, which Doug has
- 14:04Speaker 1: said both times he talked this week, getting from the
- 14:06Speaker 1: practice field to the game field and translating the excellent
- 14:09Speaker 1: work that they do there to the game field. Is
- 14:12Speaker 1: about focus, and they've got to be hyper focused this week.
- 14:15Speaker 1: But they've also got to see the big picture, and
- 14:16Speaker 1: that is is if you don't see yourself as they're equal,
- 14:21Speaker 1: if you don't see yourself as the same team that
- 14:25Speaker 1: last year made the a f C Championship game, you
- 14:28Speaker 1: probably don't have the right mindset to go beat the Steeler, right.
- 14:31Speaker 1: You have to be so honed and so confident, which
- 14:33Speaker 1: this group, of course is confident. Miles jacquie her him
- 14:35Speaker 1: in the locker room yesterday say about the confidence of
- 14:37Speaker 1: this team. But yes, you got to look back to
- 14:39Speaker 1: two seventeen almost bring the same mindset that you brought
- 14:41Speaker 1: last season, which is tough because you're not the same team, Dealers.
- 14:44Speaker 1: You're always the bully on the block, fully on the block,
- 14:47Speaker 1: and and you went and you bully them last year.
- 14:51Speaker 1: So now here they come in swinging it in your
- 14:54Speaker 1: home field and in your home field, and you are
- 14:57Speaker 1: going to have to summon up all of the bully
- 15:01Speaker 1: that you have in you to be ready to play,
- 15:04Speaker 1: which means that guys have to get over last week.
- 15:06Speaker 1: They gotta get over themselves, They gotta get over this
- 15:08Speaker 1: entire season. That's true. They gotta get out of their
- 15:10Speaker 1: own way. First. They gotta set their ego aside. They've
- 15:13Speaker 1: got to function within the system right, especially on the
- 15:16Speaker 1: defensive side, which what we're talking about here is to
- 15:19Speaker 1: do your job. I think it goes out. You gotta
- 15:23Speaker 1: do your job well. And you've got talent back there,
- 15:25Speaker 1: guys that absolutely can do their job well. But you
- 15:28Speaker 1: gotta start by doing your job. Because this coaching staff
- 15:31Speaker 1: has spent the better part of two full days Monday
- 15:35Speaker 1: and Tuesday, putting together the game plan. Don't You can't
- 15:39Speaker 1: question the game plan at this when you get out
- 15:40Speaker 1: there on on on Sunday, play the game plan. They
- 15:44Speaker 1: did all the work. They know what the capabilities of
- 15:47Speaker 1: this defense are. They put the wrinkles in. Trusted, they'll
- 15:50Speaker 1: make adjustments. Trusted. You trusted it last year, It worked
- 15:54Speaker 1: worked for you. You have to trust it again this year. Mostly,
- 15:58Speaker 1: you've got to come in there with the bully on
- 16:00Speaker 1: the block mentality if you want to go forward right
- 16:03Speaker 1: and stick to your game plan as well as play
- 16:05Speaker 1: a complete game. That's what we saw against the Bolts.
- 16:06Speaker 1: They had an incredible second half looking at the defense here,
- 16:09Speaker 1: and then the first half completely didn't show up. You
- 16:11Speaker 1: gotta play a full, complete game, give the moment. I'm
- 16:13Speaker 1: going that was the biggest takeaway from last week. Well,
- 16:16Speaker 1: and just to wrap up this segment, and Ed Bouchett,
- 16:18Speaker 1: the long time Steelers beat rider for the Pittsburgh Post,
- 16:22Speaker 1: get a Gazette and an old friend is going to
- 16:24Speaker 1: join us and give us a preview of Sunday's game
- 16:27Speaker 1: and what's going on and Levy on Bell and all
- 16:29Speaker 1: of that stuff. Um, I think that there is a
- 16:31Speaker 1: mindset among Jaguars fans this week we're going to beat
- 16:35Speaker 1: the Steelers. I mean they're playing questioning right, They're playing well.
- 16:40Speaker 1: They're bringing in Antonio Brown and Juju Smith, Schuster and
- 16:44Speaker 1: Ben Through five touchdown passes. Don't forget in that game
- 16:47Speaker 1: in the in the a f C Divisional playoff game
- 16:49Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and January. Um, and the defense isn't playing
- 16:52Speaker 1: nearly as well as it did and the offensive struggles
- 16:55Speaker 1: are real. How in the world are the jaguar Is
- 16:57Speaker 1: gonna match up? But you know what they do. They can.
- 17:00Speaker 1: It's about it's about doing their job, about doing it well.
- 17:04Speaker 1: And if that happens and some things go right, you
- 17:08Speaker 1: can beat them a chance, all Right, here we go.
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- 19:04Speaker 1: Place dot com. Welcome back Thursday morning, Cool and rainy.
- 19:12Speaker 1: It feels like we're in Pittsburgh. Group yeahogo or extraly
- 19:17Speaker 1: snowing up there? Oh, I like it a lot. It
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- 19:25Speaker 1: Time to introduce you, Ashlyn to a a longtime friend
- 19:29Speaker 1: twenty four years of covering Jaguars and Steelers games. Uh.
- 19:33Speaker 1: As you go along through your career, you will get
- 19:35Speaker 1: the chance to meet people who are incredibly insightful, who
- 19:39Speaker 1: understand the game, and who are always willing to share
- 19:42Speaker 1: it with you, kind of like me. Um A little
- 19:45Speaker 1: plug there. Ed Bouchett, the longtime beat writer for the
- 19:48Speaker 1: Steelers for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette and one of those
- 19:51Speaker 1: aforementioned friends. Guys you see with a big smile, high Ed,
- 19:53Speaker 1: how are you this morning? I'm great, Brian, Thank you
- 19:56Speaker 1: for that introduction. Well, it's certainly deserving. How are you
- 20:00Speaker 1: this morning? In terms of the Levian Bell thing, is it?
- 20:03Speaker 1: Is it finally over? Now that he's come and I'd
- 20:06Speaker 1: rather not come and it's gone. Yeah, it's over. I
- 20:10Speaker 1: wrote my I wrote my last story on it yesterday, Brian.
- 20:13Speaker 1: And I'll tell you one thing. I rode that horse
- 20:15Speaker 1: for a long time though, because there was so much
- 20:17Speaker 1: interest up here in and actually across the league in
- 20:22Speaker 1: what he was doing and the reaction by his teammates
- 20:26Speaker 1: and everything else. But yeah, it's dunn and buried until
- 20:29Speaker 1: alone right around next March. And then what the Steelers
- 20:32Speaker 1: are going to do. Is it clear at this point
- 20:34Speaker 1: are they going to throw the transition tag? Er? Is
- 20:36Speaker 1: that still something that's hanging out there. Yeah. I don't
- 20:39Speaker 1: think they're going to put the transition tag on him.
- 20:42Speaker 1: I just learned this. I've learned so much on these
- 20:44Speaker 1: tags along the way. Um. The only way they would
- 20:48Speaker 1: put the transition tag on him would be if they
- 20:51Speaker 1: thought they could tag him somebody somebody signed him to
- 20:54Speaker 1: an offer, they match it, and then they trade him.
- 20:57Speaker 1: But if somebody really front loads an offer, um, that
- 21:02Speaker 1: would keep the Steelers out of it. By the way,
- 21:05Speaker 1: the signing bonus has if you're going to match that,
- 21:09Speaker 1: the signing bonus is yours, um, unless you trade him
- 21:14Speaker 1: the same day. So they would have to literally sign
- 21:18Speaker 1: him and trade him, I mean match him and trade
- 21:20Speaker 1: him right away. I guess it could be done, um,
- 21:23Speaker 1: but I think they're gonna want to wash their hands
- 21:26Speaker 1: of the whole thing. You know. Just one more thought
- 21:27Speaker 1: on it, and that is it. Players generally stick together,
- 21:30Speaker 1: they talk about business. They understand it, um, it seems
- 21:33Speaker 1: and and maybe it's the locker incident that everybody's heard
- 21:36Speaker 1: about where the guys went and grab shoes and stuff
- 21:38Speaker 1: like that. But it seems like maybe the locker room
- 21:42Speaker 1: wouldn't be welcoming him back, even as great a player
- 21:45Speaker 1: as he is, and boy is he good. Um that
- 21:47Speaker 1: maybe maybe the players were done with it too. Huh
- 21:52Speaker 1: oh yeah, for a lot of reasons. He didn't communicate
- 21:55Speaker 1: at all with his teammates, and they took that as
- 21:58Speaker 1: an a front. You know, Um, Okay, you want to
- 22:01Speaker 1: do what you have to do with your contract. Um,
- 22:05Speaker 1: but you know, if I text you, how about getting
- 22:07Speaker 1: back to me. He didn't respond to anybody, including Ben
- 22:10Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's final text wishing him well. Um, so yeah, they're done.
- 22:16Speaker 1: He saw them. Rating is plundering. As I described his
- 22:20Speaker 1: locker yesterday. You know, all those shoes piled up over
- 22:23Speaker 1: the past year. He hasn't been there for a year
- 22:25Speaker 1: almost and you know, Nike keeps that in shoes and
- 22:28Speaker 1: everything else, and they're pile and before they rated, those suckers,
- 22:32Speaker 1: I don't Yeah. And then with the drop up of
- 22:35Speaker 1: James Conner, it doesn't seem that there's much drop off
- 22:38Speaker 1: at all. It seems like he's had a really successful
- 22:40Speaker 1: season and it's kind of just carried the load. I
- 22:43Speaker 1: actually that's correct. Um. His numbers are every bit as
- 22:48Speaker 1: good as Bells, if not better. Um. His average receiving,
- 22:54Speaker 1: for example, is a couple of yards three yards. I
- 22:56Speaker 1: think higher to or three yards is average per care
- 23:00Speaker 1: his four seven Bell average four point zero last year.
- 23:03Speaker 1: He's catching a lot of passes, which is you know,
- 23:06Speaker 1: something Bell did, which is why he wanted so much money.
- 23:08Speaker 1: He said he was a receiver as well as a back.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Um he's he's picking up the blitz um and he's
- 23:15Speaker 1: scored a lot more touchdowns than than Dell did. So yeah,
- 23:20Speaker 1: Bell would have been They would have welcomed him back,
- 23:22Speaker 1: but only as an insurance policy if something happened to Connor.
- 23:26Speaker 1: And you know now they don't have that, and they
- 23:29Speaker 1: have a couple of you know facts who frankly aren't
- 23:34Speaker 1: very good behind him. Um, so his health is now
- 23:38Speaker 1: their major concern keeping healthy. You know, a year ago,
- 23:42Speaker 1: after that game in October, up there where been through
- 23:44Speaker 1: the five interceptions, and you know, the storyline was maybe
- 23:48Speaker 1: I should retire, and everyone kind of wondered about that.
- 23:50Speaker 1: And then I watched him last Thursday night and I thought,
- 23:54Speaker 1: why would this guy even think about retiring? And I
- 23:57Speaker 1: get it. It was really it was a highper efficient game.
- 23:59Speaker 1: But he looked as good as I have seen him
- 24:02Speaker 1: in a long time. Where is Ben Roethlisberger right now?
- 24:06Speaker 1: Just like what you just said, Brian, what happened was
- 24:09Speaker 1: here's what he mentioned retirement once and it was two
- 24:14Speaker 1: days after they lost in New England. And from what
- 24:18Speaker 1: I understand, the Todd Haley, the coordinator at the time,
- 24:22Speaker 1: was rough on him after that game, and he was
- 24:25Speaker 1: frustrated and he said, I don't even know if I'm
- 24:27Speaker 1: gonna keep on, you know. And then after that taxial game,
- 24:30Speaker 1: he didn't mention retirement, but he said maybe I don't
- 24:34Speaker 1: have it anymore. It was kind of a sarcastic comment.
- 24:37Speaker 1: I was right there listening to it. Um, and uh,
- 24:41Speaker 1: but he's at the top of his game, it really is.
- 24:44Speaker 1: And I think the change in coordinators has helped him. Um.
- 24:48Speaker 1: He's spreading the ball around a lot more. He's not
- 24:51Speaker 1: just throwing it to Antonio Brown. Um. And a lot
- 24:55Speaker 1: of receivers are benefiting from it, and they've been healthy. Um,
- 24:58Speaker 1: They've that's been a big key for them. And Juju
- 25:02Speaker 1: Smith Schuster. As much as we talked about Antonio Brown,
- 25:05Speaker 1: and we do a lot. It just seems like he's
- 25:09Speaker 1: maybe been a difference maker in their offense to a
- 25:11Speaker 1: guy that's really tough to match up with. Yeah, he
- 25:14Speaker 1: came on the second half of last season. Brian was
- 25:17Speaker 1: really good for them, and he's just blossomed. Um. You know,
- 25:21Speaker 1: he's a tough guy. Mike Tomlin and the others have
- 25:23Speaker 1: compared him behind the board and that's exactly right. He's physical,
- 25:27Speaker 1: he goes over the middle, he'll operate out of a slot,
- 25:30Speaker 1: he'll go outside. He blocks. I mean when he first
- 25:35Speaker 1: as a rookie, he was throwing the illegal blocks, just
- 25:38Speaker 1: drawing them everywhere, and they had to like, you know,
- 25:41Speaker 1: common Donaldo, but hey, that's against the rules. Um, so
- 25:45Speaker 1: he Yeah, he's good in this rookie they got in
- 25:47Speaker 1: the second round this year. James Washington has been slow
- 25:50Speaker 1: to come along, but he has um the last few games, um,
- 25:56Speaker 1: showing that why they drafted him in the second round. Well,
- 26:00Speaker 1: how long ago does it seem like Hines Ward played.
- 26:02Speaker 1: I guess that tells you how long Ben Roethlist has
- 26:04Speaker 1: been playing. That word has been out of the game.
- 26:05Speaker 1: He seems more like a broadcaster than a former football player. Now, yeah,
- 26:09Speaker 1: I think this is his third year, Um eligible for
- 26:12Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and you have to be out
- 26:14Speaker 1: five years to do that. Yeah, so you're talking. He's
- 26:17Speaker 1: been gone for a while, and obviously a quarterback like
- 26:19Speaker 1: Roethlisberger just creates opportunities for receivers to become great. Let's
- 26:24Speaker 1: let's flip the script for us Um Ryan Cheesier. They
- 26:29Speaker 1: haven't replaced him in the defense, or have they? And
- 26:33Speaker 1: how have the outside linebackers taken the heat off of
- 26:35Speaker 1: that because it seems that there are just too many
- 26:37Speaker 1: guys to block that they haven't miss Chaser as much
- 26:40Speaker 1: as they might because other guys have stept their game up.
- 26:42Speaker 1: Is that an accurate statement? Yeah, you know what what
- 26:46Speaker 1: happened was they lost er Um and uh, you shouldn't
- 26:53Speaker 1: replace him that kind of talent. So they went out
- 26:55Speaker 1: and signed John bostock Um, a veteran inside linebacker whose
- 27:01Speaker 1: career has been really I mean he's been around for
- 27:03Speaker 1: five years or so, it's been really derailed by injuries. Well,
- 27:08Speaker 1: he's been injury free. He's playing that spot and he's
- 27:11Speaker 1: he's a solid guy. He's not Chase here Um. What
- 27:14Speaker 1: they did, they've they've kind of remade their whole defense
- 27:18Speaker 1: in different ways. Brian, they flip flopped those outside linebackers.
- 27:23Speaker 1: They thought the Prix would be better on the right side.
- 27:26Speaker 1: He played on the left last year and t J
- 27:28Speaker 1: want better on the left. And it has. It has worked.
- 27:32Speaker 1: It took some time. It also took some time for
- 27:35Speaker 1: Bostick to work his way in for Morgan Burnett, another
- 27:39Speaker 1: free agent they signed from Green Bay in a in
- 27:42Speaker 1: a first round pick, Terrell Edmonds, both strong safeties. They've
- 27:46Speaker 1: been kind of um sharing that position. Um. They they
- 27:51Speaker 1: moved Sean Davis from free safety to strong safety, where
- 27:55Speaker 1: Mike Mitchell was last year, and everybody down there remembers
- 27:59Speaker 1: Mike Mitchell for his Atlantics on the day of that
- 28:02Speaker 1: playoff game. Um, he's gone. And they cut Williams Gay
- 28:07Speaker 1: and they they benched already Burns their first round picked
- 28:11Speaker 1: two years ago at cornerback. And this Cody sense of
- 28:14Speaker 1: balls plan a solid spot there. So there's been a
- 28:17Speaker 1: lot of moving cards, a lot of new players put in,
- 28:20Speaker 1: and this defense is really coming together now. It almost
- 28:24Speaker 1: looks it they are as playmaking though as any defense
- 28:30Speaker 1: I've seen up there in a long time. I mean,
- 28:32Speaker 1: they just have so remember the days when we're talking
- 28:34Speaker 1: about about Kevin Green on one side, and and and
- 28:38Speaker 1: I mean, you know Greg, but it just seems and
- 28:42Speaker 1: that's the thing about Pittsburgh And I was trying to
- 28:43Speaker 1: explain it to Ashland. Is it it doesn't matter who
- 28:46Speaker 1: the names are, they go find guys for their system.
- 28:48Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who the defensive coordinator is. It's the
- 28:50Speaker 1: way that they play. Where does that come from? How
- 28:54Speaker 1: is it that this organization just um, I think it's
- 28:58Speaker 1: just you know, there's a locker room kind of Um,
- 29:01Speaker 1: we're not a locker room, but that's different. But there's
- 29:04Speaker 1: just a system that they keep putting guys into. Now,
- 29:09Speaker 1: Keith Butler, their defensive coordinator who succeeded Dick la Bow,
- 29:13Speaker 1: has been around as their linebackers coach, you know, since
- 29:18Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin came in. And it's just one follows the
- 29:22Speaker 1: other and they just plug guys in. It's it's one
- 29:26Speaker 1: of the reasons and I don't understand other teams sometimes, Brian,
- 29:30Speaker 1: you know, they'll fire a coordinator or the head coach
- 29:33Speaker 1: and they have to start all over again with different systems,
- 29:36Speaker 1: different philosophies. And the Steelers have been famous for, you know,
- 29:41Speaker 1: keeping their head coaches and um, you know, just just
- 29:46Speaker 1: staying with the system. They've run the three four different
- 29:49Speaker 1: defense now, different varieties since the catchman was covering the
- 29:55Speaker 1: team now and that's but that's the thing, is it?
- 30:00Speaker 1: There are there? I don't think there's another franchise in
- 30:02Speaker 1: the NFL. And people get confused with New England because
- 30:05Speaker 1: they've had such continuity there with Parcels and Belichick. But
- 30:08Speaker 1: the reality, and it's kind of like Pittsburgh is, is
- 30:11Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter who the head coaches, It doesn't
- 30:14Speaker 1: matter who the assistant coaches. The system belongs to the Steelers. Right.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Is there anybody else in the NFL that is so
- 30:21Speaker 1: system oriented like Pittsburgh that it doesn't matter who the coaches? Well,
- 30:26Speaker 1: they you know, I'm not going to say it doesn't matter,
- 30:28Speaker 1: because I think the head coach still really matters. Um.
- 30:32Speaker 1: And they've been able to find the right ones, uh
- 30:34Speaker 1: since Nolan sixty nine. But um that they have evolved
- 30:40Speaker 1: on offense, Bryan because of Ben in the passing game
- 30:44Speaker 1: and the league rules and everything else. Um, you know,
- 30:48Speaker 1: they're not a pounded team anymore. They just don't come
- 30:51Speaker 1: out and pound it. Um. You know, with Bettis and
- 30:55Speaker 1: even a little bit after him. That's how that's what
- 30:59Speaker 1: they do. UM. Bill Coward had a record of a
- 31:02Speaker 1: hundred and six one and one when his team led
- 31:05Speaker 1: at any point in the game by more than ten points.
- 31:08Speaker 1: He lost one game in his entire career that way.
- 31:11Speaker 1: It's a U but I don't. You can't do that anymore.
- 31:15Speaker 1: You just you just can't. That's not the way the
- 31:17Speaker 1: games played. And uh, they're fortunate to have Roethlisberger. To
- 31:22Speaker 1: UM take advantage of that. Before we let you go,
- 31:26Speaker 1: and we greatly appreciate your time this morning. You have
- 31:28Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame vote. Does Tony Boselli belong in
- 31:31Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame? And do you think he'll ultimately
- 31:32Speaker 1: get there? Yeah? I do, UM, And I voted for
- 31:36Speaker 1: him last year. And when I say I voted for
- 31:38Speaker 1: him up until he you know, he didn't make the
- 31:40Speaker 1: final five, so he wasn't available then. UM. And you
- 31:45Speaker 1: know it's a strange vote. We vote like three one
- 31:48Speaker 1: to three different times on that Saturday before the Hall
- 31:52Speaker 1: of Fame. UM. Yeah. And what's helping him, I think
- 31:56Speaker 1: is some other short termers UM have gone in Brian Um.
- 32:03Speaker 1: You know, Terrell Davis was one of them, um who
- 32:08Speaker 1: who got in, and Joe Jacoby dropped out last year
- 32:12Speaker 1: because he's no longer a modern candidate. So there's another
- 32:14Speaker 1: Cackle that won't be going up against Tony. There are
- 32:19Speaker 1: there are a lot of offensive linement. We don't one
- 32:21Speaker 1: here Alan Fanna, he's a guard, but there I think
- 32:24Speaker 1: there's gonna be. There were five last year, some facility
- 32:27Speaker 1: or enough facility. Jacoby drops out, so that leaves four.
- 32:32Speaker 1: I think eventually he will. But in this Hall of
- 32:36Speaker 1: Fame stuff you never can tell. I mean we're talking
- 32:39Speaker 1: about we're just talking about a guy heinz Award, who
- 32:43Speaker 1: people here thought would be a shooting for the Hall
- 32:45Speaker 1: of Fame. He hasn't even made the final fifteen yet,
- 32:50Speaker 1: you know. And it took your own Bettis, who was
- 32:52Speaker 1: the fifth leading restaurant all the time when he retired.
- 32:54Speaker 1: It took him five years to get it. And he
- 32:57Speaker 1: played a lot of playoff games, and I know that's
- 32:59Speaker 1: one of those things that they look at, and Tony
- 33:01Speaker 1: didn't get as many playoff games. And we with tackles
- 33:04Speaker 1: so much with tackles, so Brian, so that everyone down
- 33:09Speaker 1: here is wondering. You know, it's it's just when did
- 33:12Speaker 1: the Jaguars get it? Basely's obviously that guy. I guess
- 33:15Speaker 1: every time we have you on, we'll ask until we
- 33:17Speaker 1: get him. Just we'll keep pasting at Yeah. Yeah, well
- 33:22Speaker 1: you still had it. So thanks for your time this morning.
- 33:25Speaker 1: We appreciated you know, our fantasy this dealer is quite
- 33:28Speaker 1: a bit, but the insight we can't get anywhere else.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Have a great day. I look forward to seeing you
- 33:33Speaker 1: on Sunday. Brian and I will be staying at Jack's Beach.
- 33:36Speaker 1: You are a very smart man, and the weather is
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- 33:46Speaker 1: Post Gazette, Old friend, one of the smartest beat riders
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- 35:58Speaker 1: win this week. Oh mist huh No, No, I'm just
- 36:01Speaker 1: gonna go random because when I study it didn't help.
- 36:04Speaker 1: Let's just guess. Yeah, right, But that's the fun part
- 36:08Speaker 1: of it, just guessing, because if you go study for
- 36:13Speaker 1: I do try. I just try. There's language, right, I mean, guys,
- 36:16Speaker 1: A word here, a word they're kind of gives you
- 36:18Speaker 1: a clue what's going on? Um, although being much much older,
- 36:24Speaker 1: I sometimes I don't understand the word. It's yeah, I
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- 36:33Speaker 1: thank you very much. My wife picked him out. Um. Okay,
- 36:37Speaker 1: so before we start that let's do a little preview
- 36:39Speaker 1: of Thursday night football, right, Um, the Packers and the Seahawks.
- 36:44Speaker 1: When they put this one on the schedule, they had
- 36:45Speaker 1: to figure both of these teams were just full on
- 36:48Speaker 1: legitimate contenders. Um. And of course in the NFC, I mean,
- 36:52Speaker 1: it doesn't look like anybody's contending except maybe the Saints
- 36:54Speaker 1: in the rams. Um. But you have Aaron Rodgers and
- 36:57Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I mean, that's that'll make me watch on
- 36:59Speaker 1: a thursty and I haven't for a game that I
- 37:01Speaker 1: really don't care about, wouldn't make you. Yeah, absolutely to
- 37:03Speaker 1: see two guys that that level and then playing and
- 37:06Speaker 1: if you go look at their history and what they've
- 37:09Speaker 1: done for the organization their teams. I mean, you gotta
- 37:12Speaker 1: watch rather than just ask you what you think about
- 37:14Speaker 1: the game. You played with one of the great quarterbacks,
- 37:17Speaker 1: one of the top three or four quarterbacks to ever
- 37:19Speaker 1: played the game. Give us an appreciation for Aaron Rodgers
- 37:23Speaker 1: from what you've seen and what it what would be
- 37:25Speaker 1: like to play with the guy with an arm that
- 37:26Speaker 1: can make every throw and by the way, the hood
- 37:29Speaker 1: spot if that's the right word to go and make
- 37:32Speaker 1: any he doesn't care. I mean He's an unbelievable talent.
- 37:37Speaker 1: And to think, you know when they drafted him what
- 37:39Speaker 1: they had. I don't think they knew exactly what they had.
- 37:41Speaker 1: They probably pretty confident when they let Brett Farve go.
- 37:44Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, this guy hasn't missed a beat from
- 37:47Speaker 1: what Brett has done and what they've accomplished in Green Bay.
- 37:50Speaker 1: And to say that he's one of the great ones,
- 37:53Speaker 1: no argument. Um, tremendous talent. He makes everyone around him better.
- 37:57Speaker 1: He's a leader, he's a competitor, he does things the
- 37:59Speaker 1: right way. And what I've what I've gathered, Um, I
- 38:02Speaker 1: would love to have, you know, lace it up and play.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Tell you what I tell people all the time if
- 38:06Speaker 1: they want to know why the struggles that the Jaguars
- 38:09Speaker 1: went through in the mid part of the two thousands
- 38:12Speaker 1: until the last couple of the last year. Um, they
- 38:15Speaker 1: passed on him. They took a wide receiver and Matt Jones,
- 38:18Speaker 1: who was a quarterback at Arkansas instead of him. Um,
- 38:22Speaker 1: when you passed on him, by the way, they passed
- 38:24Speaker 1: on Ben Roethlisberger too. Um. But they had drafted Byron Leftwich.
- 38:27Speaker 1: So but that was understandable. You can't make mistakes like that,
- 38:31Speaker 1: and and people back in two thousand and five when
- 38:33Speaker 1: he came out, they called him a system quarterback. He
- 38:36Speaker 1: played for Jeff Tedford who was at cal and Jeff
- 38:39Speaker 1: Tedford had been Achilles Smith's quarterbacks coach offensive coordinator at Oregon,
- 38:43Speaker 1: And so they said, well he had Achille and I
- 38:45Speaker 1: mean watch the take, see the arm. And then of
- 38:50Speaker 1: course he sat for three years, which he needed a
- 38:54Speaker 1: little time. They were patient with him. And now they've
- 38:56Speaker 1: got a Hall of Fame quarterback and a guy that
- 38:58Speaker 1: you just love to watch play. And I'm sure you
- 39:00Speaker 1: keep in touch with Mercedes. I do too, Um. And
- 39:03Speaker 1: when you say, how's the plane for Aaron, he just
- 39:05Speaker 1: text back, you know, the emoji with a great big
- 39:07Speaker 1: smile in the sunglasses. You know, I mean, how could
- 39:10Speaker 1: it not be? How could it be exactly right? Um?
- 39:13Speaker 1: To sit and watch Brett for three years and to
- 39:16Speaker 1: achieve what he's done since Brett left Green Bay to me,
- 39:19Speaker 1: is remarkable. Now the other guy they passed on him
- 39:21Speaker 1: as well as you know, long time suffering Jaguars fans
- 39:23Speaker 1: will will remember that they took a punterer, Brian Anger instead.
- 39:26Speaker 1: They had drafted Blane, They had drafted Blane Gabbett the
- 39:29Speaker 1: year before they messed that one up to and so
- 39:31Speaker 1: they were never going to take Russell Wilson. Ever. Um
- 39:34Speaker 1: Gus tells the story, or told the story when he
- 39:36Speaker 1: was here about the very first team meeting when Russell
- 39:40Speaker 1: Wilson was UM, I don't even know if he'd taken
- 39:43Speaker 1: if he'd taken Matt Flynn starting job yet. Um, I
- 39:47Speaker 1: don't recall whether he was the starter in opening day
- 39:49Speaker 1: or just after that. But he opens up his notebook
- 39:52Speaker 1: to take notes, and on the left side of his
- 39:53Speaker 1: note book, because gustaid he was standing behind him, are
- 39:56Speaker 1: his season goals, his three year goals, his five year
- 39:59Speaker 1: goal and and Gus said he knew right then that
- 40:03Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was going to be a star quarterback because
- 40:05Speaker 1: he wanted it so badly. And who knew that a
- 40:09Speaker 1: five ft eleven quarterback could come into this game and
- 40:12Speaker 1: dominate it like he has in so many respects. Yeah,
- 40:14Speaker 1: and I like to ask the gurus in this industry
- 40:18Speaker 1: that they thought when Russell Wilson was a rookie or
- 40:22Speaker 1: drafted that he would be as good as he is now.
- 40:24Speaker 1: For what you just said, five eleven quarterback been to
- 40:27Speaker 1: a couple of college teams and we let's take a
- 40:30Speaker 1: spin on him. Let's take a flower on in the
- 40:32Speaker 1: fourth round. Who would have thought he has been right?
- 40:35Speaker 1: You know, and the Seahawks got him in the third round,
- 40:37Speaker 1: and well, I mean, look what, yeah, yeah, look what
- 40:40Speaker 1: he did. What he's done with it. I'll watch the
- 40:42Speaker 1: game and watch and I watched a bit of the
- 40:45Speaker 1: Steelers game just because I knew we were going to
- 40:47Speaker 1: see them next, but generally Thursday Night him on other things.
- 40:50Speaker 1: To have two guys like this, like that, and let
- 40:52Speaker 1: alone you know, the defenses and all that stuff. But
- 40:54Speaker 1: those two guys, it, it's a great matchup. And I
- 40:58Speaker 1: want to see Mercedes and I guess does still play
- 41:00Speaker 1: with the Seahawks will be pretty good. Cool. All right,
- 41:02Speaker 1: So that's your Thursday Night preview from the perspective of
- 41:05Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Let's play this game big week week. I'm
- 41:10Speaker 1: up right, Yeah, sure, thank you. I kind of lost track. Yeah,
- 41:14Speaker 1: I'm up one. He's up one. He's keeping trapped. Sorry, Brian,
- 41:17Speaker 1: what Yeah, Well, I figure if you're going to win,
- 41:20Speaker 1: you gotta keep scoring. Yeah, I yielded about five minutes ago.
- 41:25Speaker 1: I thought I had one, but whatever I yield I give,
- 41:28Speaker 1: I'm winning good. All right, let's see the first one
- 41:31Speaker 1: of who said it? Two things I hate the most
- 41:35Speaker 1: one when someone lies to my face. Two vegetables. I
- 41:40Speaker 1: feel him on that. I hate vegetables as well. I
- 41:43Speaker 1: love vegetables. On that's weird of you to say I
- 41:45Speaker 1: can eat a plate of vegetables and no meat. That's gross.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Oh that is gross with two things, lying and vegetables.
- 41:59Speaker 1: In vestable character telling Marcus that you like vegetables. Oh yeah, vegetables.
- 42:05Speaker 1: Maybe that's why you're really healthy. And maybe maybe I
- 42:07Speaker 1: should take some face from you. Did I stump you?
- 42:14Speaker 1: I think you good? Guess? Okay, let's see an mp
- 42:21Speaker 1: DJ close but no Miles, no, oh, I got it?
- 42:27Speaker 1: Now close and last week one more write it, write it.
- 42:35Speaker 1: I'm about the show mine and I don't want you
- 42:38Speaker 1: don't get another guess we've learn from Guy Steaks. Let's
- 42:44Speaker 1: see yours. Yes, I should have got it on the
- 42:50Speaker 1: McDonald's thing from last week. That's right, he don't eat healthy,
- 42:55Speaker 1: he hates med schools, loves McDonald's. That is a professional athlete.
- 42:58Speaker 1: It must be nice. I'm down on that one. All right,
- 43:02Speaker 1: you can come back yeah, I don't call it come back.
- 43:07Speaker 1: All right, let's see the next two sets. If I
- 43:10Speaker 1: say I'm going to call you back, just go enjoy
- 43:13Speaker 1: the rest of your day. Seeing that's the i'm a.
- 43:19Speaker 1: This is exactly how it was tweeted. I double checked
- 43:21Speaker 1: for you, Brian, because I know you're a big language guy,
- 43:25Speaker 1: and then I'll give you a little bit of a hint,
- 43:28Speaker 1: I would think. So let's see it MP. Okay, Brian,
- 43:35Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah. You know why I guess that, Well,
- 43:41Speaker 1: i'm a because he's not a Queen's English guy. Um.
- 43:45Speaker 1: But the other is is he doesn't Last week he
- 43:48Speaker 1: was going to talk to the media and he didn't.
- 43:50Speaker 1: He decided not to talk, and I thought, well, I
- 43:53Speaker 1: can I call him back? So I went with him
- 43:56Speaker 1: Lendon for NET. There we go, type breaker, don't call
- 43:59Speaker 1: it back? Oh boy, Hey, anybody know what Jason Whitlock's
- 44:05Speaker 1: handle is on Twitter? I need to tell him something.
- 44:09Speaker 1: Fox Sports one Sports analyst calling him out on Twitter.
- 44:13Speaker 1: I didn't like what he had to say. Apparently. Do
- 44:21Speaker 1: you know I got a good guest though, it has
- 44:23Speaker 1: to be someone in the defense. M. I don't know
- 44:30Speaker 1: about that, Marcus. Your comment, Okay, it's not I guess
- 44:40Speaker 1: do you need do you guys need a hip? I
- 44:42Speaker 1: need to know? Okay, give us it isn't it. It's
- 44:45Speaker 1: someone who has not been on this team but is
- 44:48Speaker 1: working out at the moment. He's not been on a team.
- 44:51Speaker 1: That's what. Well, he is on the team, but you
- 44:54Speaker 1: know what I mean, he's not working out. He has
- 44:56Speaker 1: been injured. Got it? Got it? Tiebreaker? Did I give
- 45:04Speaker 1: it too much away? Austin's I knew you're going to
- 45:09Speaker 1: work him in this week because he's back, so I
- 45:12Speaker 1: guessed him earlier. Because the whole I hate it when
- 45:14Speaker 1: people lie to me. Because Marcus had Jalen, I shouldn't
- 45:16Speaker 1: have given it away. You would have won Brian when
- 45:20Speaker 1: you said you needed more of a hint. Yep me out,
- 45:23Speaker 1: Thank you. Pat. I tried, but it's it's and you
- 45:28Speaker 1: don't have a fourth one. Do you know? I thought
- 45:30Speaker 1: for sure Brian was going to take the cake this week.
- 45:34Speaker 1: This whole season is just going to be a tie. No,
- 45:37Speaker 1: I'm still up one, and don't forget it, and don't
- 45:42Speaker 1: you forget it? And I don't think you'll let me
- 45:44Speaker 1: forget it. As always, it's one of the most enjoyable
- 45:47Speaker 1: segments of the week. Thank you. Eventually, I'm going to
- 45:50Speaker 1: tie the whole thing. I'm just letting you know I'm coming,
- 45:53Speaker 1: all right. I like it. I don't like chase because
- 45:55Speaker 1: if I'm being chased, that means I'm out in front.
- 45:57Speaker 1: I like it. Watch your back end peace right. Okay,
- 46:00Speaker 1: the man who once competed on the Amazing that's good.
- 46:03Speaker 1: Did you know that? I didn't even know that he's
- 46:06Speaker 1: a celebrity. I'm not going to be in his presence.
- 46:09Speaker 1: All right, Let's get out of here because he's got
- 46:11Speaker 1: things to do and we have to have best to
- 46:12Speaker 1: the locker room to wrap up a thurs Day show.
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- 48:01Speaker 1: A Welcome back to Jags Drive Time Thursday Morning presented
- 48:09Speaker 1: by Fields Auto Group. Show almost over, but we still
- 48:12Speaker 1: have locker room to get to the best of Yeah,
- 48:15Speaker 1: and I you know, I think I said on this
- 48:17Speaker 1: show on maybe yesterday that I was not really happy
- 48:21Speaker 1: on Monday in the locker room because I didn't think
- 48:23Speaker 1: guys gave us their best effort. They didn't come in
- 48:25Speaker 1: when Sean and and you know Malik, we left Calais alone,
- 48:29Speaker 1: by the way, just a plug for Clay's He comes
- 48:32Speaker 1: in and talks every day and he always has something
- 48:35Speaker 1: to say. We gave him a break on Monday and
- 48:37Speaker 1: Malik said, hey, I gotta run. He ran through. But
- 48:40Speaker 1: yesterday guys were in the locker room, and guys are
- 48:42Speaker 1: willing to talk. And today uh, Jalen's talking, Leonard's talking.
- 48:46Speaker 1: It's big week and it's good to see them coming
- 48:48Speaker 1: back to it and willing to step up. I don't
- 48:50Speaker 1: know what they're gonna say. I don't really care. We
- 48:52Speaker 1: just need their insights on it. Um. But we have
- 48:54Speaker 1: some guys from the locker room yesterday and very worthy
- 48:57Speaker 1: of the title the best of the locker room. Yes,
- 49:00Speaker 1: all right, So we know center Brandon Linder out for
- 49:01Speaker 1: the remainder of the season, Coach Marone, so that surgery
- 49:04Speaker 1: went well for him. Blake Bortles, we know, is a
- 49:06Speaker 1: good friend of Brandon's and has played with him for
- 49:08Speaker 1: many years. Talks about the loss of the captain. You know,
- 49:11Speaker 1: anytime you're starting centator goes down, that's that's a bit
- 49:13Speaker 1: of a challenge. But Shatley's got a lot of experiences,
- 49:15Speaker 1: played a ton of games the center and a guard.
- 49:17Speaker 1: UM get a chance to work with them, you know,
- 49:19Speaker 1: throughout the week. So you know, I got all the
- 49:21Speaker 1: confidence in the world. And when we actually played Pittsburgh
- 49:23Speaker 1: last year during the season with Shatley at center, so, um,
- 49:26Speaker 1: he's got some familiarity with this team and blocking these
- 49:28Speaker 1: guys up front. I knew Blake was going to go
- 49:30Speaker 1: there with Shatley. Um, I wasn't so sure. And there
- 49:33Speaker 1: was a little before that um of him talking about
- 49:36Speaker 1: the loss of Linder. And then you remember that Linder
- 49:38Speaker 1: is one of his closest friends on the team, and
- 49:40Speaker 1: you're on the sidelines like I am. And you see
- 49:42Speaker 1: that whenever they're about to start a drive, especially when
- 49:45Speaker 1: they are in adverse situations, which they've been in plenty
- 49:47Speaker 1: of the last five or six weeks. Um, those two
- 49:50Speaker 1: are the ones that are turning and working together for
- 49:52Speaker 1: two of them to get everything organized and get guys
- 49:55Speaker 1: ready to go. Um. I thought it was telling they
- 49:58Speaker 1: are very close personal friends. You may or may not
- 50:00Speaker 1: know that. Uh and and two guys that work together.
- 50:03Speaker 1: Obviously it's the quarterback and center. Um. I thought it
- 50:06Speaker 1: was interesting that that he went, he's normally Blake doesn't
- 50:09Speaker 1: do that, you know. Uh No, it's not that he's
- 50:11Speaker 1: not telling you everything he thinks. It's just he doesn't
- 50:14Speaker 1: go into that personal depth like he did yesterday. Right,
- 50:16Speaker 1: but still looking forward to Shotlee and again. And he
- 50:20Speaker 1: pointed out that they won in Pittsburgh with shot Lee
- 50:22Speaker 1: while Brandon was dealing with the illness last year. So
- 50:25Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. All right, Let's go to Calais
- 50:28Speaker 1: and Miles Jack, two guys that are always vocal in
- 50:30Speaker 1: the locker room talking about the upcoming matchup. This is
- 50:33Speaker 1: the team that I have a lot of respect for,
- 50:35Speaker 1: you know. And that's really a team that can get
- 50:37Speaker 1: us going. You know we can get that a big win.
- 50:40Speaker 1: I guess team like this, you know that that might
- 50:41Speaker 1: be able to That might be the spark we need
- 50:43Speaker 1: to make this runt. Even though a record doesn't show,
- 50:46Speaker 1: We're two silence teams going at each other. So, I mean,
- 50:48Speaker 1: guys are gonna step up. It's gonna be guys superstars
- 50:51Speaker 1: on the field. So it's gonna be a high, high
- 50:54Speaker 1: caliber game. Yeah, And see, that's that's what gives me
- 50:57Speaker 1: a little a little juice thinking on day this team
- 51:00Speaker 1: is gonna come out and play well because they understand.
- 51:02Speaker 1: I mean, you're playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. You have CBS
- 51:06Speaker 1: is number one crew in here. But beyond that, you
- 51:09Speaker 1: are seeing Antonio Brown and Juju Smith Schuster and Ben Roethlisberger.
- 51:15Speaker 1: And despite the fact that you know, you saw Andrew
- 51:17Speaker 1: Luck last week and the Colts have good players and
- 51:19Speaker 1: the Eagles have good players, on Sunday, you're seeing a Yeah,
- 51:23Speaker 1: you're seeing a team at the top of the a
- 51:25Speaker 1: f C that everyone measures other teams against. And you know,
- 51:29Speaker 1: I mean Eve in Kansas City right as good as
- 51:31Speaker 1: they are different, it's that's a little different. Yeah. Uh,
- 51:34Speaker 1: and so that's I kind of think that. Now. One
- 51:36Speaker 1: more thing to point out here. Calais was asked did
- 51:39Speaker 1: he think that the Steelers would bring in, you know,
- 51:43Speaker 1: a little a little little burr under the saddle from
- 51:45Speaker 1: the two games from last year, And his comment was,
- 51:48Speaker 1: I know I would, Right, I had to say, I
- 51:51Speaker 1: know I would probably wouldn't say it, but I'd be thinking,
- 51:54Speaker 1: I know I would, I would say it. All right,
- 51:57Speaker 1: let's go to what we've been talking about for a
- 51:59Speaker 1: lot of this O Tyler Shotley. Now the starting center
- 52:02Speaker 1: isn't looking back to two thousand seventeen. You know, Uh,
- 52:06Speaker 1: what happened last year doesn't care over to this year.
- 52:09Speaker 1: So right now we're just trying to win the next game. Well,
- 52:12Speaker 1: no matter who who is against, we're just going to
- 52:14Speaker 1: try to prepare as well as we can and win
- 52:16Speaker 1: this week. And you know, here's the funny thing about
- 52:19Speaker 1: about Chaplin. Um, if you're standing there, the camera's off
- 52:23Speaker 1: and there's no microphone around, I mean, and he just
- 52:26Speaker 1: wants to keep going and give you But when the
- 52:28Speaker 1: microphone comes up, he wants to say the right thing.
- 52:30Speaker 1: And I get that, right, especially as a backup lineman,
- 52:32Speaker 1: stepping into Brandon Linder the captain's rule. You don't want
- 52:35Speaker 1: to make it about you. You just want to go
- 52:36Speaker 1: and do your job. Totally respect that. But this is
- 52:40Speaker 1: a guy with great football insight. I mean, he has
- 52:42Speaker 1: been around here a number of years, has worked himself
- 52:45Speaker 1: into a rule. He very well could could be a
- 52:48Speaker 1: starter for you. I mean, if a j kNN went
- 52:50Speaker 1: down or something happened, you're well, you don't worry about
- 52:52Speaker 1: you got to have that sort of utility infield or
- 52:55Speaker 1: the guy that can get things done. This team has
- 52:57Speaker 1: a ton of confidence in what she at Lee can do.
- 53:00Speaker 1: From you know, Blake, who's going to take the snap
- 53:03Speaker 1: from him, to the offensive coordinator, to the guys on
- 53:05Speaker 1: the defensive side. I remember Todd wash saying to me
- 53:07Speaker 1: a couple of years ago in Nashville that he thought
- 53:10Speaker 1: that the next starting center. This is when Brandon was
- 53:13Speaker 1: playing guard. He thought Chadley was going to be that guy.
- 53:16Speaker 1: He has that much respect for Shadley, and the guys
- 53:18Speaker 1: on the defensive line do as well. So we'll see
- 53:22Speaker 1: I would imagine the Steelers do based on what this
- 53:24Speaker 1: team did against them last year. Alright, and we're done.
- 53:27Speaker 1: Were done tomorrow on Jack's Drive Time coffee with head
- 53:30Speaker 1: coach Doug Marone. We will also have he will, he won't,
- 53:33Speaker 1: he might pick one and pick it and fantasy football.
- 53:36Speaker 1: So a big Friday to wrap up a week of
- 53:38Speaker 1: broadcast was excellent. We had a good week. Ye in
- 53:42Speaker 1: the bagne. All right, we're signing it off, thanks so
- 53:45Speaker 1: much to Joe Forgnado when stone cold in the other room.
- 53:48Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow with Jags Drive Time on
- 53:52Speaker 1: a Friday