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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, June 9 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is her day June nine. This is Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: Hour and now twenty twenty three mayor all candidate running
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Speaker 1: under the Cuttail party, chad Rick. I don't want any
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Speaker 1: of that smoke. Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. My
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Speaker 1: name is J. P. Shadrick. We've got a busy, busy
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Speaker 1: show ahead today. Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghuman is back in
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Speaker 1: the United States. We will hear from Jeff coming up
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Speaker 1: in just him all that defensive end and outside linebacker.
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is actually about to leave the United States
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Speaker 1: to a couple of weeks for a trip. We'll hear
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Speaker 1: from him in studio coming up. See what he has
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Speaker 1: to say about the off season so far, and what's
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Speaker 1: what he thinks about this upcoming training camp in a
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Speaker 1: few weeks, and what his off season will be like.
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Speaker 1: We're review the off season program. Doug Peterson, all the
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Speaker 1: assistant coaches spoke today. We've got plenty to dissect before
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Speaker 1: we go around the National Football League as well. Jeff Logerman,
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Speaker 1: welcome back. It's nice to see you. Yeah, it's good
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Speaker 1: to be saying. When's the mini camp next week? I
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and now
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Speaker 1: there's going to be about thirty players. Um, most of
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Speaker 1: the veterans said uh, Doug said goodbye. And I was
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Speaker 1: actually talking to a couple of assistant coaches up there,
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Speaker 1: guys that had played a game, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: so you're jealous, and they're like, oh. Ever, to a man,
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Speaker 1: are like, gosh, I wish it was like this when
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Speaker 1: I was playing. Yeah, I mean that's but I mean
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Speaker 1: that seems to be I don't want to say it's
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Speaker 1: the kind of standard operating procedure. But more and more teams,
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Speaker 1: because of the valuable, valuable usage of the O t
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Speaker 1: a S have gone to some teams are just canceling
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Speaker 1: mini camp. They feel like that they're getting everything done
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Speaker 1: that they need to get done in the O t
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Speaker 1: A S and that an additional mini camp is not
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Speaker 1: that beneficial to them. But I will say this, it's
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Speaker 1: not like the entire team is getting all the ones
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Speaker 1: that they feel like, I need to get the work.
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Speaker 1: The rookies and certain veteran players maybe that haven't picked
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Speaker 1: up some things. They're gonna stay here and work and
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Speaker 1: that's the way it should be. Yeah, And that's all right.
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Speaker 1: So it's still Monday's used no mini camp. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: there were a lot of a lot of rubber left
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Speaker 1: on the road out there, of cars rolling out of
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Speaker 1: here today, Yeah there was. There was a few guys
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Speaker 1: rolling out of here. But I look, I'm a big
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Speaker 1: believer in it. I think a mini camper and O
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Speaker 1: T A is there really much of a difference. There's
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Speaker 1: really not. I mean an O T A day is
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Speaker 1: the same thing as a mini camp day. So essentially
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Speaker 1: all you're doing is shorting the number of O T
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Speaker 1: A days in reality three days, which is what the
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Speaker 1: mini camp would have consisted of. So I'm I'm a
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Speaker 1: big fan of trying to preserve the body and not
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Speaker 1: wearing it out too much, because look, the reality is,
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Speaker 1: you could only do so much in no pads there
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Speaker 1: there really is. There's really only so much that you
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Speaker 1: like for offensive and defensive lineman. I mean, what, what's
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Speaker 1: the how much benefit of as long as you've got
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Speaker 1: the terminology in the system down and responsibilities down, how
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Speaker 1: much benefit do you actually gain by having three more
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Speaker 1: non padded practices. I think sometimes it can be a
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Speaker 1: little bit, uh kind of like groundhog Day, you know, yeah,
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Speaker 1: because it's a classic. And sometimes I think you can
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Speaker 1: develop bad habits sometimes when you're a contact physical player
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Speaker 1: and you're not having contact practices because you're trying to
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Speaker 1: make sure I don't want to hurt anybody. My favorite
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Speaker 1: line from that movie, it's groundhog Day again. Just like
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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but yes, it can feel that
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Speaker 1: way at times. Let's hear from Doug Peterson, head coach
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Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars, spoke today and he's seen a
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Speaker 1: lot of growth out of this football team in the
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Speaker 1: off season. You know, it's one of the key message points,
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Speaker 1: you know, back April eleventh when when I started with
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Speaker 1: this group and and just you know, we talked about
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Speaker 1: the healing process, right and trust and and all this stuff,
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Speaker 1: and and you know, I've seen this team grow from
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Speaker 1: April eleventh to to today and how they've come together
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Speaker 1: and good, good group of leaders on this football team
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Speaker 1: and how they've handled things, and UM's it's just the
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Speaker 1: right time. He said that something similar to that a
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Speaker 1: lot this offseason, having to regain the trust and get
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Speaker 1: players to believe in it again and believe in the staff.
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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously you do things like this and
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Speaker 1: get guys out of meetings a little bit early and
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Speaker 1: and everybody still gets to work done. You have to
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Speaker 1: pull a little bit out of the players too. You
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Speaker 1: have to see some of that come out on the
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Speaker 1: practice field, from the classroom to the practice field. And
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Speaker 1: he said earlier this offseason he's seen a lot of
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Speaker 1: that as well. So it's a given take players and
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Speaker 1: coaches is and it feels like a good vibe right now.
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Speaker 1: And I think the other thing that he said it
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Speaker 1: was important. He talked about how this group was hard
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Speaker 1: working and and that's important and and so I think
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Speaker 1: the two things that we're talking about here trust Okay,
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Speaker 1: regaining the trust or just gaining trust however you want
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Speaker 1: to term it, and then hard work are two of
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Speaker 1: the most critical things that there is. And UH is
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Speaker 1: regaining the trust a result of what happened last year
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Speaker 1: that was, you know, the failure of the franchise with
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. You know, maybe it is, but I think
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Speaker 1: that when you're when you have a new staff and
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Speaker 1: then you start to work with players and when you
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Speaker 1: show them that you can help them, that's the way
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Speaker 1: that you gain trust and you continue to you still
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Speaker 1: have to continue to earn that trust okay, as a
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Speaker 1: as a coach, it's not something that you just do
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Speaker 1: one time and then you're like, hey, look I'm good
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Speaker 1: to go. I'm I got the trust for the entire season.
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Speaker 1: It's a continual process that you have to continue to
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Speaker 1: give because if something happens and all it takes is
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Speaker 1: one time. If you mess up and somehow you lose
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Speaker 1: the trust, no matter of the twenty great deeds you've
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Speaker 1: done now, it takes a little bit of time to
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Speaker 1: build that trust back up again. And so trust is critical.
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Speaker 1: Trust is everything, especially when with a with a coach
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Speaker 1: player relationship, and uh, the most important thing that the
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Speaker 1: coach can offer a player is the ability to improve
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Speaker 1: that player, to improve that player's worth, to make him
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Speaker 1: a better player, and to make him more functional for
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Speaker 1: a football team. So I like Doug's approach. I think
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Speaker 1: Doug is very uh what's the word. Um. He's in
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Speaker 1: the moment with his team, and I think that's a
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Speaker 1: good thing to be because if he felt that this
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Speaker 1: team wasn't ready, he's not doing this regardless of where
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Speaker 1: his team is at, just regain trust. He's doing this
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Speaker 1: because he feels like his team is at where it
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Speaker 1: needs to be and that that they deserve this, and
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Speaker 1: then Okay, this is gonna help make our team better.
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Speaker 1: It's funny. We were sitting up there today talking to
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Speaker 1: Bob Sutton, longtime defensive coach in the NFL. College before that,
7:12
Speaker 1: long time in college. Yeah, his first year is a
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Speaker 1: grad assist. It was nineteen seventy two at Michigan. He's
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Speaker 1: been in the league since two thousand. I was five
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Speaker 1: years old. By the way, when he was a grad assistant,
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Speaker 1: I was minus nine years old minus. How about that
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Speaker 1: been a while. But we were talking to him something
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Speaker 1: similar like this. You know, there's so many coaches that
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Speaker 1: played that are on this staff. How does that help?
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Speaker 1: And his answer was similar to what you just said.
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Speaker 1: You know, that only goes so far. You've got to
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Speaker 1: help those players become the best player they can be.
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Speaker 1: And it feels like the staffs on a good at
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Speaker 1: least at a good starting point there. I think. I
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Speaker 1: think when you have a coach that's played the game,
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Speaker 1: I think first of all, it allows it allows to
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Speaker 1: to have the relationship to be also kind of have
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Speaker 1: shared experiences. So so, in other words, an experience that
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Speaker 1: a coach goes through maybe pertinent to an experience that
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Speaker 1: a player is going through. Maybe the coach is a
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Speaker 1: little bit more understanding of maybe a decision of player
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Speaker 1: made or the way he played a certain play because
8:12
Speaker 1: he played a game also, and and also from the
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Speaker 1: standpoint of the player receiving that information. I know that
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Speaker 1: when when I was a player in the league and
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Speaker 1: talked to coaches and learned of what that coach did
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Speaker 1: as a player, I think first of all, it made
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Speaker 1: you respect that person initially, but then after that initial Okay,
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Speaker 1: he played the game, he knows where I'm I'm at.
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Speaker 1: Now you also have to give me the information. And
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Speaker 1: when I was there for a part of that conversation
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Speaker 1: that you have with with Bob Sutton, and and I
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Speaker 1: think Bob hit it right on the on the nail
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Speaker 1: when he said that you have to continue to show
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Speaker 1: them that you can help them. So, yes, a coach
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Speaker 1: having played the game helps, but at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, if the message from a guy who didn't
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Speaker 1: play the game continues to make the player better and
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Speaker 1: it's more beneficial to the player, that coach will be
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Speaker 1: better for the player, not a coach just because he
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Speaker 1: played the game. But but I think that experience of
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Speaker 1: coaches having played the game helped them to relate to
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Speaker 1: the players in a better way, and it also allows
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Speaker 1: them to know, hey, I've been there before. What did
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Speaker 1: I want as a player? I wanted somebody who could
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Speaker 1: help me about be a better player, And so they
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Speaker 1: understand what they need to be in that relationship. Guys
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Speaker 1: like Mike McCoy, uh, Chris Jackson, Richard and Ghoulo on
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Speaker 1: the offensive side than on defense might call well the
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Speaker 1: d C played in the league, Brentson Buckner um to
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Speaker 1: Shay Townsend. It will hear from many of those guys
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Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow on the Jaguars Broadcast week Interview podcast
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Speaker 1: who We're gonna run a lot of that audio we
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Speaker 1: did here from Press Taylor today as well. The Jaguars
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator on how far along they've come with the offense.
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Speaker 1: I think we got a lot done, We got a
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Speaker 1: lot put in, a lot installed. We got the chance
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Speaker 1: to teach really the foundation of what we want to
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Speaker 1: do as an offense and then teach a lot of technique.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're asking guys to do things a certain way.
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Speaker 1: Whether they've done that, whether they haven't, we don't know.
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Speaker 1: But here's how we envision it being done. Here's what
10:12
Speaker 1: we'd like, go out do it now, let's talk about it,
10:14
Speaker 1: let's coach it. So I think from that standpoint, we
10:16
Speaker 1: got a lot done. Um. And when we were able
10:19
Speaker 1: to kind of sell that vision to the guys of
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Speaker 1: what we wanted to look like, they were able to
10:22
Speaker 1: go out there, have success doing it, work through some things, um,
10:25
Speaker 1: and then we all kind of bounce ideas off one
10:27
Speaker 1: another moving forward. You know, we'd like it done this way.
10:30
Speaker 1: A guy says, hey, I've done it this way, I
10:31
Speaker 1: had success, can do it, can verbalize it, can show
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Speaker 1: you video evidence, things like that, and so there's been
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Speaker 1: a lot of good back and forth with the guys
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Speaker 1: building this thing. Doug Peterson will call plays on game day,
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Speaker 1: of course, he said that already in this offseason. But
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Speaker 1: Press Taylor is charged with making all this work together
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Speaker 1: and the different routes that Christian Kirk has to learn,
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna learn them all. They want to move
10:54
Speaker 1: these pieces around, and it's up to Press Taylor to
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Speaker 1: to make sure his offensive players can handle that. Uh
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Speaker 1: he he impresses me. Press Taylor does. And from the
11:03
Speaker 1: standpoint of if you look at the offensive side of
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Speaker 1: the ball. From a coaching standpoint, there's a lot of
11:09
Speaker 1: big names. I mean big names that could be intimidating
11:12
Speaker 1: for a for a young offensive coordinator. Mike McCoy, Doug Peterson, Uh,
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Speaker 1: Joe Uh, Jim, Bob Coot. I mean, you got all
11:21
Speaker 1: these guys that yeah, but I mean you've got these
11:24
Speaker 1: guys who have been either a head coach at the
11:26
Speaker 1: National Football League level or that they've been accomplished offensive
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Speaker 1: plate callers and offensive coordinators in the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: So and here's a young guy that is the named
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and I think that's a that's a that's
11:40
Speaker 1: a tough position to be in because you're the young guy, okay,
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Speaker 1: and you have all this experience, But so I think
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Speaker 1: you have to have a quiet calm of confidence to
11:50
Speaker 1: be able to handle the room. And it seems like
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Speaker 1: he really does have that calm and confidence in him.
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Speaker 1: And and the other thing that I think is pretty unique,
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Speaker 1: And if you listened, and not from today, but if
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Speaker 1: you if you listen to what Trevor Lawrence said the
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Speaker 1: other day. He was asked about all of the information
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Speaker 1: that he can get from all of these coaches. He
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Speaker 1: talks specifically about how when the message gets to him
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Speaker 1: it's singular, which remember I talked a couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: ago about having too many cooks in the kitchen can
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Speaker 1: be a bad thing. You know what, Loves You're leading
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Speaker 1: us right into Trevor Lawrence from earlier this week. Here's
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Speaker 1: what the quarterback had to say. With all those cooks
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Speaker 1: in the kitchen, it's been really smooth. I think everybody's
12:36
Speaker 1: on the same page, which is which is good. I
12:37
Speaker 1: think the way they built the staff is everyone has
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Speaker 1: a similar you know, not not everyone's gonna think the
12:43
Speaker 1: same obviously, you need that diversity to be able to
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Speaker 1: put you in the best position to win. But everyone's
12:48
Speaker 1: in the same page, and you can tell it's it's
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Speaker 1: very seamless. And also too, it's when people talk, it's
12:55
Speaker 1: not everyone trying to say their opinion, you know. It's
12:57
Speaker 1: kind of people pick and choose, and I think they
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Speaker 1: do a job of communicating beforehand, so when we get
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Speaker 1: into meetings, they kind of know exactly what they're all
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Speaker 1: thinking and they're on the same page. I love hearing
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Speaker 1: that obviously one voice, singular message. What you gotta have,
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Speaker 1: that's it. That's what I hope they would tell us
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Speaker 1: otherwise right now. Oh, it's awful, but you know it
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Speaker 1: makes sense when it comes out of Trevor's mouth like that.
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Speaker 1: Uh that that's certainly believable and it sounds like everybody's
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Speaker 1: on the same page. And and the other thing too.
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Speaker 1: From talking to Mike McCoy today and listening to him
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Speaker 1: talk to some other people's and other people that were
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Speaker 1: involved in the media skirmish today, and he talked extensively about,
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Speaker 1: you know, looking from Afar, about the confidence that he
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Speaker 1: has in his quarterback because of how he watched him
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Speaker 1: and how he handled everything last year, how he kept
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Speaker 1: positive and the whole situation. So Mike McCoy has a
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Speaker 1: lot of respect for for Trevor Lawrence and and it's
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Speaker 1: good to hear Trevor Lawrence talk in the terms of okay,
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Speaker 1: we we have a Jaguars language. It's good to have
14:02
Speaker 1: differences of opinion because I think that's one way that
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Speaker 1: you can actually become better as the staff is that
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Speaker 1: you have different ideas and and you have people that
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Speaker 1: feel very strongly about their ideas and you can you know,
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Speaker 1: verbally spar and argue and then you know, at the
14:18
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, you make the best
14:20
Speaker 1: decision for the football team. And you go back to
14:22
Speaker 1: some of the great coaching staffs that have been around
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Speaker 1: the National Football League, some of them actually went to
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Speaker 1: fist costs over making decisions. Remember the Baltimore Ravens of
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Speaker 1: two thousand. I mean, I do you remember the stories
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Speaker 1: that they had on their staff. They had From what
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Speaker 1: I understand, they had multiple skirmishes that involved fists and
14:41
Speaker 1: there was a knuckle junction visits you. You mentioned media skirmish.
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a good media skirmish in a while.
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Speaker 1: Who would you take in a media skirmish? Who you
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Speaker 1: calling out right now in the media to have a
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Speaker 1: skirmish with? Like for me to take it right now
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Speaker 1: in the media and the Jaguars media for a skirmish?
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Speaker 1: You and who me versus somebo? Do you or take
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Speaker 1: on my side? No? No No, no, no against you? You're
15:03
Speaker 1: going against this person? Um you're calling out right now?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Skirmish. I'll take u j B. I'll
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Speaker 1: take you on. I know you won't know you won't
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Speaker 1: pick again. That wouldn't be a fair fight, though I
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Speaker 1: would dominate. Hey, let's come back in a moment. I
15:18
Speaker 1: want to take somebody on that that could that could
15:21
Speaker 1: stand a couple of rounds with me. But Selly, Mike
15:24
Speaker 1: de Rocco can hang in there. He's got a center
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Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, he's you know, be like a Mike Tyson. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's feisty that guy. Now. But Selly, I just kicked
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Speaker 1: him in the hip. He fall. He'd be like, you know,
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Speaker 1: like a house of what do they call that? A
15:41
Speaker 1: house of cards? Cards? No, and remember the three little picks. Okay,
15:47
Speaker 1: so Selly would have the house made of sticks, blow
15:51
Speaker 1: it down, kick him in a hip. He's done. It
15:54
Speaker 1: is time for us to take a time out. Um,
15:56
Speaker 1: we're gonna kick you off the set here in a second,
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Speaker 1: please do. And Josh Ellen's gonna jump in Jaguars outside
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Speaker 1: linebacker defensive end. We'll hear from him coming up a
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Speaker 1: little later, we'll get into the defense. We'll hear from
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Speaker 1: Mike Caldwell, the defensive coordinator who spoke today for the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars as well. The Jags are future focused and ready
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Speaker 1: Jaguar's outside linebacker with us now was the last concert
17:26
Speaker 1: you went to the daily Splace? Josh close to the
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Speaker 1: microphone for us. The last concert was my rookie year
17:34
Speaker 1: and we saw my very first concert. It was a
17:37
Speaker 1: Chris Barrown concert and my wife took you know, she
17:40
Speaker 1: took me their first concert ever. Man, I thought it
17:43
Speaker 1: was the best thing ever, you know what I mean.
17:45
Speaker 1: I felt like the intermission music was better than like
17:48
Speaker 1: anything else I was. I was in there jam and so, uh,
17:52
Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of looking forward to, you know,
17:54
Speaker 1: with the COVID for the last two years, as hard
17:56
Speaker 1: as been getting out and now that you know that's
17:58
Speaker 1: all over, kids again, little older, you know what I mean,
18:01
Speaker 1: I think we can start kind of start moving and
18:05
Speaker 1: doing our own little thing. And that's so we're gonna
18:07
Speaker 1: try to experience a little bit more. How old are
18:09
Speaker 1: the kids who four two and nine months? I'm saying
18:14
Speaker 1: they're getting older, They are getting older because that's my
18:18
Speaker 1: son is getting tune out. My oldest is good. Uh,
18:22
Speaker 1: but in a two year old, he had to get
18:24
Speaker 1: over that not a baby no more phase and we're
18:28
Speaker 1: kind of getting out of that. And now he's kind
18:30
Speaker 1: of be able to do things and talk and communicate
18:34
Speaker 1: back and forth. So it's kind of making a little
18:36
Speaker 1: easier than my daughter. She's just little princess. Do you
18:41
Speaker 1: ever sleep sleep good? You do? I sleep real good?
18:47
Speaker 1: You know, it depends, like initially I go to sleep.
18:49
Speaker 1: We try to get our kids in bed as soon
18:51
Speaker 1: as possible. A daughter goes down around like a thirty,
18:55
Speaker 1: but she had seen to fight it. Sometimes my oldest
18:59
Speaker 1: old goes to sleep. Whenever he goes to sleep, and
19:03
Speaker 1: then my jewel, like my my middle son, he typically
19:06
Speaker 1: goes to sleep, you know, probably around not eight o'clock,
19:09
Speaker 1: eight o'clock he starts to Really you can tell, you know,
19:14
Speaker 1: you got kids. You can just telling eyes and you're like, yes,
19:17
Speaker 1: let's go play outside for a little bit, you know
19:19
Speaker 1: what I mean. Get him a little bit more tired,
19:21
Speaker 1: so I sleep, you know, I try to try to
19:23
Speaker 1: put him lowerally, spend some time with my wife, you
19:26
Speaker 1: know her, go to sleep and watch some film, wake up,
19:30
Speaker 1: you know, and then start my day again. It's a
19:33
Speaker 1: good time to do that. House is quiet, you can
19:35
Speaker 1: turn on the film and get going. Josh Allen Jaguars
19:38
Speaker 1: outside linebacker with us to that point. Let's talk a
19:40
Speaker 1: little ball now another year another defense. Well, how different
19:46
Speaker 1: is Mike called will scheme? And what does it do
19:50
Speaker 1: for a guy like you? Oh man? His scheme is
19:53
Speaker 1: just so it's so different in so many different ways.
19:57
Speaker 1: If that makes I don't know, that was a little
19:59
Speaker 1: more We need to so um the way I feel
20:04
Speaker 1: like this deference is is built upon and the way
20:07
Speaker 1: he's teaching it to us, it's real professional, you know
20:12
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's real. Okay, this is a call.
20:15
Speaker 1: Yet we're gonna get a lot of stuff done. But
20:19
Speaker 1: study the film, study how we run it, you know
20:22
Speaker 1: what you need to do, execute it. But he's also
20:25
Speaker 1: teaching it us in a way of as football players,
20:28
Speaker 1: not just you know, we don't just get a play,
20:31
Speaker 1: write it down, we'll walk through it. Is he's telling
20:34
Speaker 1: us the reason why we call this play in the
20:36
Speaker 1: situation that we would call this play, And so he's
20:39
Speaker 1: getting bringing us more situational awareness. And plus he played
20:42
Speaker 1: the game, so now he can speak to us in
20:44
Speaker 1: a way of okay, like the little things like you know,
20:48
Speaker 1: one of our outside backers like if I'm drifting, you
20:51
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Hey, we don't need to drift
20:53
Speaker 1: because you drip. Now we've got this in breaking right
20:55
Speaker 1: right here. So when you get to your point set
20:57
Speaker 1: right here, and now you play off of that. So
21:00
Speaker 1: is having that awareness now, especially for me, I'm year
21:03
Speaker 1: four now and so I kind of can pick up
21:06
Speaker 1: on things a little a lot easier. So for me
21:09
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's it's real beneficial because that's
21:13
Speaker 1: where you know, I want to improve my game. I
21:15
Speaker 1: was just in play skills, you know what I'm saying,
21:17
Speaker 1: or taking it to the next level, and I feel
21:20
Speaker 1: like just with him and other coaches around, I feel
21:23
Speaker 1: like we all are taking our game to the next level.
21:26
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm really excited about. Josh Allen with
21:28
Speaker 1: US Jaguars outside linebacker, rushing the quarterback is priority number one.
21:31
Speaker 1: We get that. But you mentioned no stepping back in
21:34
Speaker 1: coverage a little bit. I know you did some of
21:38
Speaker 1: that back in your college, and you did a little
21:40
Speaker 1: bit of that last year too, obviously with an interception
21:42
Speaker 1: last season. But is it natural? Is it something you
21:46
Speaker 1: have to work on your coverage skills or is that
21:49
Speaker 1: even is that just down the list of priorities for you.
21:51
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, athlete is always going to be
21:54
Speaker 1: an athlete. I feel like even when you get a
21:57
Speaker 1: lot older and you play sports and you are a
22:00
Speaker 1: good athlete, I feel like that never leaves your body.
22:02
Speaker 1: So like you know, he seeing Trayvon, you know what
22:07
Speaker 1: I'm saying, dropping coverage and move the way he does,
22:09
Speaker 1: you know, he never I don't think he rarely dropped
22:12
Speaker 1: as well as much as or as the drops that
22:15
Speaker 1: we're doing here and the transition that he's making. I
22:18
Speaker 1: feel like an athlete is always going to be an athlete.
22:20
Speaker 1: So and I could say that I believe I'm a
22:23
Speaker 1: really good athlete and I can do a lot of
22:25
Speaker 1: different things. And that's what I love about this defense
22:28
Speaker 1: because I can be interchangeable, you know what I'm saying.
22:31
Speaker 1: If you think you have to just prioritize me on
22:34
Speaker 1: one thing Russian, the pastor h I might drop. So
22:37
Speaker 1: now that might open up for other people. And that's
22:39
Speaker 1: where I want to get tray von on so he
22:41
Speaker 1: can have that similar threat. So it's like, you don't
22:43
Speaker 1: know where we're coming from. We could be both dropping rushing,
22:47
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, um, that's where and
22:50
Speaker 1: that's where the next level comes from, you know what
22:52
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now you've got to know the play and
22:54
Speaker 1: now you can reformations and now you can adjust from
22:57
Speaker 1: what you want to do out the formations, the mess
23:00
Speaker 1: at the disguises of you know, the food with the offenses.
23:02
Speaker 1: But you know, for me, I feel like I'm there
23:05
Speaker 1: to a certain extent trying to get everybody else around
23:07
Speaker 1: me evolved in more of that. But we have to
23:09
Speaker 1: learn the plays and you know, saying we have to
23:11
Speaker 1: learn a quick Josh Allen is with us, Trayvon Walker.
23:14
Speaker 1: First impressions of him, at least from me, it feels
23:18
Speaker 1: like he's just a straight pro like he's here to
23:20
Speaker 1: work and get it done. He's not a big flashy
23:23
Speaker 1: media type. That's not his personality at least the first
23:26
Speaker 1: impressions I get. What is he like in the room.
23:29
Speaker 1: He's a sponge. You know what I'm saying. He was
23:31
Speaker 1: exactly the way I was. You know what I'm saying
23:33
Speaker 1: when I came into the league, And um, you know,
23:37
Speaker 1: he wants to he wants to he wants to achieve
23:40
Speaker 1: what he wants to achieve. You know what I'm saying.
23:42
Speaker 1: He has his goals and what he wants to do
23:45
Speaker 1: this year, and he's gonna do everything he can to
23:48
Speaker 1: achieve those goals and for himself and for this team,
23:51
Speaker 1: because I told him, like, we win by our best
23:54
Speaker 1: players being great at all at all times. So you know,
23:58
Speaker 1: we drafted you here and this is a standard that
24:01
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying that we set for each other.
24:03
Speaker 1: You know say, not what the outside world or what
24:07
Speaker 1: you know, you're a number pig, You got all this
24:08
Speaker 1: type of posed. Don't worry about that. Worry about the
24:12
Speaker 1: standard that we give each other and you know what
24:15
Speaker 1: what we expect from you, and worry about that. Worry
24:18
Speaker 1: about yourself and worry about just coming here and do
24:21
Speaker 1: what you need to do. But for that man, he's
24:25
Speaker 1: gonna be he's gonna be a heck of a player.
24:28
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, as soon as like
24:30
Speaker 1: I said, man, this defense is deference can be this
24:32
Speaker 1: defense can be complicated. But I feel like, you know,
24:36
Speaker 1: when we take that next step and we understand this
24:38
Speaker 1: complicated defense, we can really we can really do some
24:42
Speaker 1: crazy things with the defense that we can that that
24:45
Speaker 1: we have never seen in a long time in Jacksonville.
24:48
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm really excited about. And that's what
24:50
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that man because he can do
24:52
Speaker 1: the same things that I can do, just has longer
24:55
Speaker 1: arms and he's about ten fifteen pounds bigger than me.
24:58
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, that's trademon author and
25:04
Speaker 1: he's a humble guy. Also, you know, he's an old soul.
25:07
Speaker 1: He's an uncle. You know, he just has that uncle vibe.
25:10
Speaker 1: He's just kicking and cooling it. And you know he's
25:13
Speaker 1: just a person you want to be around. That's how
25:14
Speaker 1: That's how old group. I gotta shout out to myrow,
25:16
Speaker 1: the old groups, the whole group. Man, we all vibe,
25:19
Speaker 1: we all kicking, we all want to be and we
25:21
Speaker 1: all want to we all want to hold each other accountable.
25:24
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's our goal. And you know,
25:27
Speaker 1: not only for our group, but we have instead of
25:29
Speaker 1: im No, I'm probably don't extra, but you know, for
25:33
Speaker 1: our group, you know, we want to set the standard,
25:35
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and for but for us
25:37
Speaker 1: to set that standard for all, we have to set
25:39
Speaker 1: it for ourselves, you know what I'm saying. And then
25:42
Speaker 1: people see how we work, see how we communicate, see
25:44
Speaker 1: how how are we fight for each other. Now that
25:47
Speaker 1: not another group might take that. Okay, now we need
25:49
Speaker 1: to get that, but we're gonna gonna get this collectively
25:51
Speaker 1: because we all want unit. But for right now, you
25:53
Speaker 1: have to control yourself, you know what I'm saying. Then
25:56
Speaker 1: you have to control your unit, and then you can
25:58
Speaker 1: control the unit as one like, we're doing a good
26:01
Speaker 1: job at that on this O T a S period
26:03
Speaker 1: and my training camp comes, we're gonna rimp that up
26:05
Speaker 1: a little bit. Josh Allen with us is Jaguars Happy
26:08
Speaker 1: Hour on tinte XL and Jaguars dot Com. J P.
26:10
Speaker 1: Shadrick with the Jaguars Outside linebacker Josh Allen. All Right,
26:14
Speaker 1: So there was some comments I think last week that
26:17
Speaker 1: were attributed to you after one of the practices you
26:20
Speaker 1: talked about you know, you you had kind of lost
26:24
Speaker 1: I forget the exact words, but you had lost your
26:26
Speaker 1: focus maybe some intensity the last year or so. That
26:29
Speaker 1: was the feeling I think of the article. Um, the
26:32
Speaker 1: numbers have been down a little bit, you were trying
26:35
Speaker 1: to regain that focus in the off season. Is that
26:39
Speaker 1: close to Is that accurate? And and do you think
26:41
Speaker 1: you found the right track to get back to your
26:45
Speaker 1: rookie form? Let's say, Man, I think you know, and
26:50
Speaker 1: why don't you Why do you think you lost some
26:52
Speaker 1: of that over the last year or did you okay
26:58
Speaker 1: everything that went on? Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
27:00
Speaker 1: And I don't want to really make no excuses, but
27:02
Speaker 1: as much stuff that went wrong last year, man, I
27:05
Speaker 1: feel like we can also gain from that, you know
27:07
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like your failures, you know you felt
27:11
Speaker 1: so many times. You keep working at it, they're gonna
27:13
Speaker 1: become your successes and your you know, things that you
27:16
Speaker 1: can take from from that in life. So you know,
27:18
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from that year. I learned a
27:20
Speaker 1: lot from last year, and that carried me on to
27:23
Speaker 1: working as hard as I can and experiencing different things
27:26
Speaker 1: it's all season, and doing different things and being around
27:29
Speaker 1: certain different people, you know what I mean. I feel
27:32
Speaker 1: like that kind of you know, push me to to
27:35
Speaker 1: really to really get to where I need to be
27:38
Speaker 1: as a professional and just as a teammate from for
27:42
Speaker 1: for not just for myself, for for all and uh
27:45
Speaker 1: you know, for me, man, I just have to you know,
27:48
Speaker 1: for me, You know what gets me going is to
27:52
Speaker 1: stay committed, you know what I mean, Like have a goal,
27:55
Speaker 1: stay committed to that goal, and hold yourself. I got
27:59
Speaker 1: gotta hold myself like a ble. You know what I'm saying.
28:01
Speaker 1: If I tell myself that, I'm gonna you know, I
28:02
Speaker 1: want I want to be great, you know what I'm saying.
28:04
Speaker 1: I want to achieve what I want to achieve. This year.
28:07
Speaker 1: I have to do literally every single thing you know
28:09
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that I need to do, you know,
28:12
Speaker 1: and that takes and that takes hard work every day,
28:15
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But that's a commitment that
28:16
Speaker 1: I made for myself, and that's a commitment I'm a
28:19
Speaker 1: you know, giving to my teammates and hopefully they can
28:22
Speaker 1: carry that with him as well. Final a couple of
28:24
Speaker 1: minutes with the Josh, thanks for the time today. We
28:26
Speaker 1: appreciate this. So you went to the Vontan Miller Pass
28:29
Speaker 1: Rushia Academy camp thing a couple of weeks to go
28:32
Speaker 1: out in Las Vegas. Take us through that weekend. Was
28:36
Speaker 1: that your first time to go to it? And and
28:38
Speaker 1: what do you get out of it as a pass
28:40
Speaker 1: rusher and and take us through Vegas? Man, that was
28:44
Speaker 1: a great experience. That was my first time you know,
28:47
Speaker 1: at the at the summit, and that was my first
28:50
Speaker 1: time in Vegas. So there's two things I had to
28:52
Speaker 1: get adjusted to. But um, just the camp, man, the
28:58
Speaker 1: camp was just it was so awesome for me because,
29:00
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm at that stairs where I'm I'm
29:02
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, you know what I'm saying.
29:04
Speaker 1: And I think I have I think I'm on the
29:06
Speaker 1: right path. And so being out there to hear everything
29:10
Speaker 1: that I heard was on the right track to where
29:13
Speaker 1: I want to be. And and so it was great
29:17
Speaker 1: to to get more knowledge and to really you know,
29:20
Speaker 1: evaluate my game and it really dissect my game feel like,
29:24
Speaker 1: feel study myself and see what type player I really am,
29:27
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and then chase after that,
29:30
Speaker 1: and then grow after that, you know what I'm saying.
29:32
Speaker 1: So they really like as much stuff that they were
29:35
Speaker 1: teaching me about what they did and how they had successes,
29:38
Speaker 1: I had to figure out, how can I take this
29:41
Speaker 1: and adapted to myself and my scheme and my defense. Uh,
29:46
Speaker 1: And so that was the part that I really you know,
29:49
Speaker 1: went down there for. And plus how did they you know,
29:52
Speaker 1: how did they How did they take care of their body?
29:55
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, how did they? How
29:57
Speaker 1: did they play at an all time level every week,
29:59
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and just being around
30:04
Speaker 1: guys like that, you know what I'm saying, like holding
30:06
Speaker 1: yourself to a higher standard, having those guys hold myself
30:10
Speaker 1: to a higher standard. That was the craziest thing because
30:12
Speaker 1: they're seeing greatness in me that I know I see
30:15
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen it yet, but they can see it.
30:18
Speaker 1: So that's so that was a really humbling and humbling
30:21
Speaker 1: and cool experience that I had to, you know, to
30:25
Speaker 1: take with me. And plus I can take a lot
30:27
Speaker 1: of stuff back that I got from there and I
30:29
Speaker 1: can bring it back here and and so far, you know,
30:34
Speaker 1: the little things. You know what I'm saying, the work,
30:37
Speaker 1: the work ethic. You know what I'm saying that that
30:39
Speaker 1: like that we have is is phenomenal. And if we
30:44
Speaker 1: be able to keep this up, like I said, we
30:45
Speaker 1: have to be committed, can be interested. You gotta be
30:48
Speaker 1: committed to really want to achieve everything you want to achieve.
30:51
Speaker 1: And that's how you get you know what I'm saying,
30:54
Speaker 1: what you want? And Traymond gonna break my record. Oh yeah,
30:59
Speaker 1: the rookie, he's breaking my record. Okay, I'm sorry, try mom,
31:03
Speaker 1: but I had to let people know. You know, they
31:05
Speaker 1: kept trying. They keep sleeping on him about being this
31:08
Speaker 1: a right, no pass rusher, no whatever. You guys read
31:11
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Yeah that dude, you know I read it.
31:14
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because that that my partner
31:17
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, like, you know, he's
31:20
Speaker 1: he's going out there and he's gonna he's gonna affect
31:23
Speaker 1: the game in many different ways. And I'm excited to
31:25
Speaker 1: see that. What's your off season plans we got coming
31:27
Speaker 1: up the next few weeks? Man? Uh, you know obviously
31:31
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be working out. Um. I got a trip
31:35
Speaker 1: to London. Oh yeah, nice next week, very nice next
31:39
Speaker 1: week promotional tour. That's right. Super excited about that. My
31:43
Speaker 1: wife and not get to go out there and you know,
31:45
Speaker 1: experienced London together and really just enjoy, you know, the
31:50
Speaker 1: beautiful city of London. He's never really good to do
31:53
Speaker 1: that when you're playing there because exactly you're exactly so,
31:57
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm excited about that. It will be fun.
31:59
Speaker 1: Hey Josh, always good to see you. Appreciate the time.
32:03
Speaker 1: That's Josh Allen, Jaguars outside linebacker. We're back in a moment.
32:06
Speaker 1: Jeff Loguman rejoins us after this Jaguars Happy Hour on
32:11
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened
32:16
Speaker 1: to ten ten x, our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
32:27
Speaker 1: It's not what I need to do. We're gonna let
32:28
Speaker 1: them do what they do best will kind of mold
32:31
Speaker 1: the defense and mold the scheme around what our players
32:34
Speaker 1: can do. And we're in the process of doing that.
32:36
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that have a great
32:38
Speaker 1: coach and staff and their teachers so they're able to
32:40
Speaker 1: teach what we want to get done. And again that's
32:43
Speaker 1: the molding part of it. That is Mike Caldwell earlier
32:47
Speaker 1: today at the Bank, the Jaguars defensive coordinator. Welcome back,
32:51
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shadrick with Jeff Loguin
32:54
Speaker 1: or thanks to Josh Allen for jumping on with us.
32:57
Speaker 1: He's the best. He's so good. Yeah, he's first of all,
33:00
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite players ever just because he's
33:03
Speaker 1: a he's a great guy and he's a good football player.
33:06
Speaker 1: And I hope he has a great year, you know,
33:09
Speaker 1: a healthy year, because if he has a healthy year,
33:12
Speaker 1: he will have a great year. They've put a lot
33:14
Speaker 1: of pieces around him to uh, in theory could put
33:19
Speaker 1: up for it. Do you buy that. Well, I'm not
33:22
Speaker 1: a big fan of saying that they put pieces around him. Okay, okay,
33:26
Speaker 1: because that means well, he's not the center piece. I
33:29
Speaker 1: mean he's one of the pieces. I think sometimes people
33:33
Speaker 1: like if look, he's not Aaron Donald. If you were saying,
33:35
Speaker 1: eron Donald, they put pieces around Aaron Donald, that's a
33:38
Speaker 1: little different. Josh still has to uh to earn the
33:42
Speaker 1: right to say, hey, they're putting pieces around him. I
33:44
Speaker 1: think he's a fantastic football player. He's a great athlete,
33:47
Speaker 1: and I think with some of the things that he
33:49
Speaker 1: can do, he's gonna give Mike Caldwell a lot of options.
33:52
Speaker 1: And it was interesting today listening to Mike Toll. First
33:54
Speaker 1: of all, I think he's a great leader, and I
33:58
Speaker 1: think that Doug Peterson saw something that might called well
34:01
Speaker 1: a long time ago. But just from me sitting back
34:04
Speaker 1: watching and having been around a lot of great leaders
34:08
Speaker 1: in the past in my in my career broadcasting and
34:10
Speaker 1: as a player, I think Mike's got a little something
34:12
Speaker 1: special to him. And then he's got a real calm,
34:15
Speaker 1: confident demeter. The way he talks, it's very clear and
34:18
Speaker 1: concise and there's no different way to interpret what he says.
34:22
Speaker 1: And he was asked the question today about what will
34:26
Speaker 1: the personality of your defense be? Do you remember what
34:30
Speaker 1: he said? We'll see yeah, because that's that's what you
34:36
Speaker 1: That's that's real. You can't said and you can say, hey,
34:39
Speaker 1: look we're gonna operate on some of the fundamentals. We're
34:42
Speaker 1: gonna be hard working, we're gonna play fast, we're gonna
34:45
Speaker 1: do this, we're gonna do that. But to answer that
34:49
Speaker 1: involved of a question about what the personality of your
34:51
Speaker 1: defense is gonna be, that's to be determined. You know,
34:54
Speaker 1: the guys that are playing are gonna they're gonna make
34:56
Speaker 1: that decision. So you can say, oh, you want we
34:58
Speaker 1: want to be tough again, that's great. But if you
35:03
Speaker 1: don't do those things, and there's different personalities that can
35:06
Speaker 1: accomplish the same end results. So I thought that that
35:09
Speaker 1: was it was very interesting to hear him speak very honestly,
35:16
Speaker 1: but in reality, that's what the players need to hear
35:20
Speaker 1: because it's not about well, we're just gonna magically and
35:23
Speaker 1: we're gonna be this. Okay, Now, it's what you earn.
35:26
Speaker 1: And he used that term a lot about guys earning
35:30
Speaker 1: roles and earning the right and and that's impressive to
35:34
Speaker 1: me because that's the way it is. That's the reality
35:38
Speaker 1: of professional football. And you're not saying, oh, well, we're gonna,
35:42
Speaker 1: you know, do this, this, and this guy is gonna
35:44
Speaker 1: be this. We'll wait a minute. All the roles and
35:48
Speaker 1: in the playtime, it's to be determined. It's what you earn.
35:51
Speaker 1: And I think he does a great job. And I
35:53
Speaker 1: think Doug Peterson does a great job with the messaging
35:56
Speaker 1: to their team and making sure that they are very
36:00
Speaker 1: where that things need to be earned. There's a lot
36:03
Speaker 1: of conversation today also about the green dot which is
36:07
Speaker 1: on the back of the helmet. It signifies who has
36:09
Speaker 1: the coach to player communication device in their helmets. Well,
36:13
Speaker 1: there's a few different guys they feel like can do that,
36:17
Speaker 1: and it may not be just one guy. With the
36:19
Speaker 1: different packages they might have in mind, they could rotate
36:22
Speaker 1: it depending on the play, depending on the situation, you know,
36:26
Speaker 1: in theory. Ideally, and he said this today, Mike Caldwell,
36:29
Speaker 1: did you you'd love to have a three down linebacker?
36:31
Speaker 1: Who's out there? He's your guy? Paulp was Lessing, right,
36:34
Speaker 1: guy is probably the likeliest candidate right now. Because he
36:40
Speaker 1: also talked extensively about him a little bit and about
36:44
Speaker 1: some of the traits that he had heard that he had,
36:47
Speaker 1: and then when he digested the film on him. He
36:49
Speaker 1: said you could see the tangible skills that he had,
36:52
Speaker 1: and he felt very strongly about putting him in front
36:54
Speaker 1: of the huddle. Okay, the guy you want to put
36:57
Speaker 1: in front of the huddle's gonna be one wearing a
36:59
Speaker 1: green dot. So if Loukhan is gonna be a three
37:01
Speaker 1: down linebacker, a good chance he's gonna have that green dot.
37:04
Speaker 1: MoMA has been talked about in the post draft processes,
37:08
Speaker 1: the ability to do that at some point rookie though,
37:11
Speaker 1: same with Devin Lloyd. So you might have to work
37:14
Speaker 1: through some things there. But that's a lot to ask
37:16
Speaker 1: of a rookie. That's what he said today to a
37:18
Speaker 1: lot to ask of a rookie. I I just remember
37:20
Speaker 1: going back to my rookie year and when I was
37:22
Speaker 1: playing an outside linebacker in a three four because that's
37:26
Speaker 1: what I came in the league playing. My head was
37:29
Speaker 1: spinning coverages, rushing adjustments, and it was a lot to
37:34
Speaker 1: take in, not that it was hard. I like to
37:37
Speaker 1: kind of be nice and I want to say that
37:39
Speaker 1: I didn't exactly have a great coach. I can tell
37:43
Speaker 1: you that. Um uh yeah, there's a story to that.
37:46
Speaker 1: But anyway, head of spinning and I don't. I wouldn't
37:49
Speaker 1: have felt confident wearing a Green dot my rookie year
37:51
Speaker 1: in no way. No, I mean it's just just so much.
37:54
Speaker 1: I mean it's a different game that calls, the language
37:57
Speaker 1: is different, and then the speed and the chain angina
38:00
Speaker 1: the game. Um, that's a lot. That's a that's too
38:03
Speaker 1: much to ask of a rookie. Now, look, there's guys
38:05
Speaker 1: that I'm sure they can handle it. I can tell
38:07
Speaker 1: you the one thing though, that I was not one
38:09
Speaker 1: that could have handled it. Enjoy talking to the Shade
38:13
Speaker 1: Townsend today as well, A long time Steeler of course,
38:16
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Bama guy. But he's he's got a good
38:20
Speaker 1: group to work with. A cornerback. He's a cornerback coach
38:22
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, the passing game coordinator on defense as well,
38:25
Speaker 1: so he'll have his hands full. And um, they're working
38:29
Speaker 1: through to just kind of figure out who are the
38:31
Speaker 1: options at the nickel spot. And that's a position he played,
38:35
Speaker 1: so it's close to his heart. He was a nickel
38:36
Speaker 1: for a long time in the NFL, so he knows
38:38
Speaker 1: what this thing is supposed to look like. Yeah, the
38:40
Speaker 1: I think his career began Pittsburgh Steelers played I think
38:44
Speaker 1: ninety eight through two thousand and five with Pittsburgh. Good player. Um,
38:50
Speaker 1: he's coaching the cornerbacks. And then you have Cody Grimm
38:55
Speaker 1: coaching the safeties. And Cody Graham has a Hall of
38:58
Speaker 1: Fame father, Rush Grim, who was a member of the
39:01
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins the Hogs, and I grew up watching those guys,
39:06
Speaker 1: and his dad was a marvelous player, now I mean
39:10
Speaker 1: a marvelous football player. And uh, I was talking to
39:14
Speaker 1: him a little bit about that because you know, I
39:16
Speaker 1: grew up, you know, watching his dad, had great respect
39:18
Speaker 1: for him. Fact, actually played against his dad for a
39:20
Speaker 1: couple of years and it was a two thousand and
39:24
Speaker 1: ten induction in the Hall of Fame. But Cody Grim
39:26
Speaker 1: was a draft pick of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He
39:29
Speaker 1: was with Tampa last year, so a good opportunity. Obviously
39:33
Speaker 1: worked with Mike in Tampa, but a good opportunity for him.
39:36
Speaker 1: Here is the safety's coach, and I think he's excited.
39:38
Speaker 1: He had some glowing things to say about some of
39:41
Speaker 1: the guys that he's gonna be working with. And then
39:43
Speaker 1: I had a chance to sit out a little longer
39:44
Speaker 1: with Brinson Buckner Today we we've had him on our
39:47
Speaker 1: air and that you want to talk about a conversation.
39:50
Speaker 1: He's great, it's fantastic. I like his practice get ups
39:54
Speaker 1: because you know, coaches always have a style, and the
40:00
Speaker 1: style always comes from what you get in equipment room. Correct. Okay,
40:05
Speaker 1: but Princeton's got he gets the whold knee high socks
40:09
Speaker 1: going with the big baggy shorts. I mean it's it's
40:13
Speaker 1: a yeah. It's a good defensive line coach if there
40:16
Speaker 1: ever was a lot. Yes, And he's got a lot
40:19
Speaker 1: of personality and he's he's fun. He's fun to talk to.
40:21
Speaker 1: Good football player too, he was a great football player
40:24
Speaker 1: when he was in Carolina. That that they had what
40:27
Speaker 1: I thought was the best defensive line in football for
40:31
Speaker 1: a period of time in Caroline was the early two
40:33
Speaker 1: thousand's right, I mean that was like as with the
40:35
Speaker 1: Super BOWLO three right three season? Yeah, I think it was.
40:40
Speaker 1: They added that the group that they had it was
40:42
Speaker 1: a really good group. So we'll hear from a lot
40:45
Speaker 1: of these guys again tomorrow on the Official Jaguars Podcast
40:48
Speaker 1: network on the Jaguars Broadcast weekend review dinging, how about that?
40:52
Speaker 1: Um so we get a little ching ching yes on
40:56
Speaker 1: the podcast link at the top of the home just
40:59
Speaker 1: search j he Shadow just and that he's gonna be
41:05
Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow in the afternoon. All right, So it
41:08
Speaker 1: was a good visit with a lot of those guys. Today,
41:10
Speaker 1: we've got business to attend to when we come back.
41:13
Speaker 1: If you're watching us on Jaguars dot Com, you'll take
41:16
Speaker 1: a live look at the construction outside. There's metal going up.
41:20
Speaker 1: We're gonna go around the National Football We're gonna talk
41:23
Speaker 1: about Kazoo. Remember from the flint Stones and when around
41:26
Speaker 1: the league there's a story that involves Kazoo from the Flintstone.
41:30
Speaker 1: I can't wait. You watch the flint Stone? Were you
41:32
Speaker 1: born yet? I remember the Vitamins? Remember those? Yeah? That
41:38
Speaker 1: was the car to watch. Yes, Barney Rubble and all
41:43
Speaker 1: those guys, just making sure because I mean, JP, you're
41:47
Speaker 1: kind of young enough you might know the Pink bar
41:49
Speaker 1: or the Barney the other party, the other Barny. No,
41:52
Speaker 1: I'm not that yuh okay no, No, We're back in
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42:17
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42:23
Speaker 1: the Football Performance Center. Walls have gone up, there's now
42:28
Speaker 1: metal going up as well. Multiple story still construction, and
42:35
Speaker 1: then also a big overhang which looks like it's going
42:37
Speaker 1: to be an overhanging roof on the front of the building.
42:39
Speaker 1: Now I like it. So they're moving along, and just
42:42
Speaker 1: moments ago a media advisory that the Jaguars will announce
42:47
Speaker 1: the naming rights partner for the sports Performance Center coming
42:51
Speaker 1: up on Monday, a little after one o'clock. The team
42:55
Speaker 1: did not announce what the naming rights partner is or
42:58
Speaker 1: who it is yet, but we'll find out Monday, So
43:02
Speaker 1: check that out, you know, don't you. I don't know
43:06
Speaker 1: you're talking about. You know, I don't know what you're
43:09
Speaker 1: talking about. I think you're gonna be there to help
43:12
Speaker 1: make the announcement. I am going to be there to
43:14
Speaker 1: help make so, you know, I don't know. You could
43:16
Speaker 1: tell everybody, right, And I just work here, man, I
43:20
Speaker 1: just work here. People come to the show to get information.
43:23
Speaker 1: JP give it to him. I'm just told them there's
43:25
Speaker 1: a thing on Monday you can come back. Is it
43:26
Speaker 1: called teasing ahead? You can probably watch it on Jaguars
43:29
Speaker 1: social media. That information released on our show right here,
43:34
Speaker 1: that'd be better for us, right, well, it's good for you,
43:36
Speaker 1: better for our ratings. Well, at some point we'll have
43:40
Speaker 1: the live announcement on our on our air another show,
43:44
Speaker 1: but not tonight, chicken. Will you try to announce something
43:49
Speaker 1: called me a chicken? So you said, wow, we're name calling.
43:53
Speaker 1: Now let's go around the National Football League, shall we. Well,
43:58
Speaker 1: the Rams keep spending money. I don't know if they
44:01
Speaker 1: have like a Swiss bank account, Like what, how do
44:03
Speaker 1: you get all this money? I don't know, But they
44:05
Speaker 1: found it, didn't they. Earlier this week, Aaron Donald gets
44:11
Speaker 1: a ninety five million dollar restructure in his contract. Now
44:14
Speaker 1: an average salary of thirty one point six million dollars
44:18
Speaker 1: through four for Aaron Donald, it's forty million more than
44:23
Speaker 1: he was previously scheduled to make sixty five million guaranteed
44:27
Speaker 1: dollars over the next two seasons. I mean, it's crazy
44:30
Speaker 1: money and it's probably not enough. But here's the reality.
44:34
Speaker 1: He's the best defensive player in football and that there's
44:38
Speaker 1: not even an argument. I don't think. I mean, you
44:40
Speaker 1: can say, well, t J. Watt, Yeah, but Aaron Donald
44:43
Speaker 1: affects the game more than anybody in the National foot
44:47
Speaker 1: last play the Super Bowl like he's the guy who
44:49
Speaker 1: made the play and everybody knew, not that Jala Ramsey
44:52
Speaker 1: would have been to go. Yes, So Jillen Ramsey all
44:55
Speaker 1: to donate some of his salary for the restructuring of
44:58
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. No jail in man. I don't think that's
45:01
Speaker 1: going to happen. But that's a lot of money. And
45:04
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, the money is available. That's
45:06
Speaker 1: what the league is pulling in. And there's a they're
45:08
Speaker 1: good for good for Aaron Donald. He's the best player
45:11
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. He deserves to
45:13
Speaker 1: be paid right up there with some of the best
45:15
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because he's that good. He's getting paid the quarterback
45:18
Speaker 1: salary now last and I and I give him credit
45:21
Speaker 1: because he made a statement said I'm gonna stand my
45:23
Speaker 1: ground that you know, I may not play. I may play,
45:25
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes, essentially saying that I need
45:28
Speaker 1: to get paid more. And he did, and it takes
45:31
Speaker 1: courage to do that, and good for him. Well, the
45:35
Speaker 1: best receiver in football also is getting paid, arguably the
45:38
Speaker 1: best receiver. Cooper Cup three years eighty million dollar extension
45:43
Speaker 1: for him. It's seventy five million of that is guaranteed.
45:46
Speaker 1: It adds to a current deal and he'll now get
45:48
Speaker 1: paid million dollars over the next five seasons. Cooper Cup
45:52
Speaker 1: with a ram which which basically makes him underpaid. I
45:56
Speaker 1: mean it really does. I mean if you look at
45:58
Speaker 1: some of the top so let's say he's making twenty
46:01
Speaker 1: million year, right, that's what it comes out to be
46:03
Speaker 1: average wise. Okay, what a Christian Kirk get Yeah, yeah, okay.
46:08
Speaker 1: I make my point being is that Cooper Cups the
46:10
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in football right now. Okay, so twenty
46:15
Speaker 1: million a year, Well that's not too bad for this year.
46:18
Speaker 1: And he said he wasn't trying to reset the market.
46:20
Speaker 1: I understand that. You know, you you want to get paid,
46:23
Speaker 1: you want to get paid fairly. Okay, four years down
46:25
Speaker 1: the road, if he's still the best receiver in football,
46:27
Speaker 1: then you rip it up and try it again. They
46:29
Speaker 1: would have to, I mean, he would have to pull
46:30
Speaker 1: an air and Donald Hey, I'm out of here, but
46:32
Speaker 1: good for him for for getting the guaranteed money, and uh,
46:36
Speaker 1: kudos them. And I can tell you this, the Rams
46:39
Speaker 1: are gonna be building that football team with mega stars
46:41
Speaker 1: and a bunch of late round draft picks and and
46:43
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. They better hit those late round and
46:45
Speaker 1: draft picks. That's better, because I can't tell you they don't.
46:48
Speaker 1: They don't have any other one. They don't have any
46:50
Speaker 1: of the other ones. And uh, this is gonna prohibit
46:53
Speaker 1: them from being an active participant in free agency. For example,
46:56
Speaker 1: people are talking about getting uh, you know the um
47:02
Speaker 1: um they find signed Allen Robinson doing recently in free agency,
47:06
Speaker 1: and then there's talk about let's bring oh b J
47:09
Speaker 1: back to l A to play another year. How can
47:12
Speaker 1: you afford that they're just moving money down the road.
47:15
Speaker 1: I guess, you know. I mean, I don't even know
47:16
Speaker 1: how you do that. I mean, I mean, I don't
47:18
Speaker 1: know something. I don't know if you could restructure anyway.
47:23
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna have to figure it out. About five years.
47:26
Speaker 1: They're probably not gonna be the guys that are there now.
47:29
Speaker 1: The Rams are living in the moment, Yes they are.
47:32
Speaker 1: Let's need loving it right, now, if he had drafted
47:37
Speaker 1: better in the years previous, then maybe they would be
47:40
Speaker 1: in the position that they're in. That let it's work. Congratulations.
47:43
Speaker 1: Then they won a super Bowl, they got a ring,
47:45
Speaker 1: got a great coach. Offensive lineman Laurent Duverney Tardif continues
47:50
Speaker 1: to pause. I think I said that right. I took
47:52
Speaker 1: French for two years. I still didn't get it right.
47:53
Speaker 1: I don't DuVernay Tardiff, yeah that he continues to pause
47:58
Speaker 1: his football career for the medical field. Former Chiefs and
48:01
Speaker 1: the Jets lineman Brings begins a residency program in the
48:04
Speaker 1: Montreal Area Hospital next month. He is an unrestricted free agent.
48:08
Speaker 1: He said he's prioritizing medicine. We'll see again in September
48:11
Speaker 1: if there's a fit in the NFL. He was the
48:14
Speaker 1: first player to opt out of the twenty season and
48:16
Speaker 1: helped aid in the fight against COVID nineteen. He never
48:18
Speaker 1: played for the Chiefs again. He was traded to the
48:21
Speaker 1: Jets in November of last season and played eight games
48:24
Speaker 1: with seven starts for the Jets. He's got a doctorate
48:26
Speaker 1: in medicine a master's degree in surgery from McGill University
48:29
Speaker 1: in Montreal. Yeah, he's a good football player too now,
48:32
Speaker 1: but he feels like he's got a higher calling and
48:35
Speaker 1: good for him. Good for him. Uh, let me let
48:39
Speaker 1: me see her. So I want to be a doctor
48:42
Speaker 1: or do I wanna be an NFL player? Probably maybe
48:47
Speaker 1: do a little both, which one pays more. Let's see
48:53
Speaker 1: the NFL pays a little bit more right now? Okay,
48:56
Speaker 1: but if I keep playing, that will my brain operate
48:59
Speaker 1: better and at a good level in the next few
49:02
Speaker 1: years to be a doctor. Let's finish with this streaking
49:05
Speaker 1: of UH. Teams are starting to ramp up offseason workouts.
49:09
Speaker 1: Of course, the Mani Camps are next week. The Jaguars
49:12
Speaker 1: only have a few participating, but many players will be
49:15
Speaker 1: wearing an extra piece of head protection for the first time,
49:18
Speaker 1: requiring the use next week of guardian caps. Take us
49:22
Speaker 1: through what a guardian cap is quickly. Well, the first
49:24
Speaker 1: one that I ever saw was Mark Kelso the Buffalo
49:26
Speaker 1: Bills years ago during our Super Bowl are He actually
49:29
Speaker 1: wore one on the outside of his helmet. And then
49:31
Speaker 1: there was an offensive lineman for the San Francisco forty
49:33
Speaker 1: Niners at War One. This is a padded outside cover
49:37
Speaker 1: that goes on helmets. It helps minimize the contact that
49:40
Speaker 1: the players sustain. UH. And there's a lot of teams
49:44
Speaker 1: that will be having their players where throughout training camp
49:46
Speaker 1: and practices during the week so that they can minimize
49:50
Speaker 1: the banging the impacts of head collisions, and I think
49:54
Speaker 1: it's extremely smart that they're doing it. Some teams actually,
49:57
Speaker 1: like the Pittsburgh Steelers, had them on to a mini
50:00
Speaker 1: camps for unpadded practice. So just in case you had
50:04
Speaker 1: some incidental contact, do you have it the news of
50:07
Speaker 1: the week in the NFL. That'll do it for our
50:09
Speaker 1: show today logs. Good to see our last show before
50:11
Speaker 1: the break is next week. That's great, we'll see you then.
50:14
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the Reaver Joe Fortunato. I'm J. P. Shadrick.
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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.