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The Mystery of the Cosmological constant May Be Hidden in Spacetime Topology · The Quark Side - Quantum Physics Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the quart Side Quantum Physics podcast, an exploration
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  Speaker 1: of the fundamental structure of reality where quantum laws govern matter, energy,
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  Speaker 1: and information. Here, uncertainty is a feature, not a flaw,
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  Speaker 1: and understanding begins at the smallest scales.
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  Speaker 2: So if you actually trust one of the most rigorously
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  Speaker 2: tested mathematical models in all of human science, which we do,
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  Speaker 2: the universe really shouldn't exist right now, right.
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  Speaker 3: It basically should have ripped itself apart almost instantly after
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  Speaker 3: it was.
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  Speaker 2: Born, exactly like our baseline equations for quantum mechanics predict
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  Speaker 2: this massive, aggressive cosmic expansion, and it's driven by what's
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  Speaker 2: basically a boiling soup of fundamental particle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but then get it. We actually look up at
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  Speaker 3: the night sky.
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  Speaker 2: Right and we get this calm, relatively quiet expanse of stars.
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  Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's peaceful.
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  Speaker 3: Which is a huge problem for the math. That discrepancy
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  Speaker 3: isn't just some minor rounding error, No.
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  Speaker 2: It's well, it's a failure in our calculations that is
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  Speaker 2: off by a factor of ten to the power of
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Which is just an unfathomable number. It represents literally the
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  Speaker 3: largest gap between theoretical prediction and observed reality in the
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  Speaker 3: entire history.
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  Speaker 2: Of physics, it's wild. We're looking at a situation where
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  Speaker 2: quantum field theory, which is, you know, a framework that
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  Speaker 2: successfully predicts sub atomic particle behavior to decimal places that
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  Speaker 2: just boggle the mind, it completely falls apart when it
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  Speaker 2: tries to predict the background energy of the cosmos.
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  Speaker 3: Itself, it completely breaks down.
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  Speaker 2: So today we are going straight into the heart of
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  Speaker 2: what physicists call the worst prediction in physics, because there
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  Speaker 2: is a radical new approach to solving this massive math error,
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  Speaker 2: and it.
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  Speaker 3: Involves completely discarding the idea that the vacuum of space
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  Speaker 3: is just a void.
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  Speaker 2: Right, We're replacing it with this concept that the universe
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  Speaker 2: survives because it's wearing like an invisible mathematical suit of armor.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. We are going to look at how a topological quirk,
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  Speaker 3: which is actually the same kind of math that governs
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  Speaker 3: electricity in freezing two dimensional metals, might be the hidden
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  Speaker 3: structure keeping our entire universe from blowing apart.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so before we can explore how to save the
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  Speaker 2: universe with this armor, we probably need to understand the
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  Speaker 2: invisible force that's you know, theoretically trying to tear it
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  Speaker 2: apart in the first place.
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  Speaker 3: Right, we have to talk about the cosmological.
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  Speaker 2: Constant, Oh Einstein's famous blunder.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. He originally added to his equations to keep
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  Speaker 3: the universe perfectly static. He didn't want it expanding or contracting.
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  Speaker 2: But then Edwin Hubble came along in nineteen twenty nine
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  Speaker 2: and was like, uh, actually everything's flying away from us night.
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  Speaker 3: The universe is expanding. So Einstein happily threw the constant
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  Speaker 3: in the trash and called it his biggest blunder. But
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  Speaker 3: the thing is it came back with a vengeance in
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  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety eight.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's when scientists realized the expansion wasn't just happening,
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  Speaker 2: it was actively celerating exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So to really grasp the mechanism at play here, we
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  Speaker 3: have to look at why quantum field theory or QFT
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  Speaker 3: creates this cataclysmic prediction for that expansion.
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  Speaker 2: And this all comes down to the fundamental nature of
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  Speaker 2: empty space right right.
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  Speaker 3: In classical physics, a vacuum is literally just a box
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  Speaker 3: with nothing in it, completely empty, But in QFT, the
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  Speaker 3: universe isn't a box. It's made of fields.
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  Speaker 2: Like electromagnetic field, electron fields.
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  Speaker 3: Quirk fields. Exactly all these fields are layered on top
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  Speaker 3: of each other everywhere, and due to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle,
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  Speaker 3: these fields can never ever be perfectly.
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  Speaker 2: At rest, right, because if a field were perfectly at
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  Speaker 2: zero energy, we would know its exact position and its
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  Speaker 2: exact momentum simultaneously, which.
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  Speaker 3: Quantum mechanics explicitly forbids.
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  Speaker 2: It's literally illegal in physics.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there always has to be this baseline jitter.
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  Speaker 2: And that underlying jitter is what we call zero point energy.
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  Speaker 3: No, got it. Even in a perfect vacuum, if you
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  Speaker 3: stripped away all the matter, all the heat, these quantum
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  Speaker 3: fields are still constantly.
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  Speaker 2: Fluctuating like a boiling soup.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly like a boiling soup, virtual particles are just popping
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  Speaker 3: into existence, borrowing energy from the vacuum for a fraction
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  Speaker 3: of a nanosecond, and then annihilating each other.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean a single virtual particle appearing and disappearing
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really seem like a big deal, not on its own, no,
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  Speaker 2: but you have to multiply that by the infinite volume
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  Speaker 2: of the entire universe across all the different types of
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  Speaker 2: quantum fields.
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  Speaker 3: Right, that's where the math explodes. When physicists sum up
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  Speaker 3: all those underlying harmonic oscillators, the baseline energy of quote
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  Speaker 3: unquote empty space just shoots off toward infinity.
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  Speaker 2: Or even if you apply a mathematical cutoff right like
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  Speaker 2: at the.
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  Speaker 3: Plank scale, yeah, the smallest measurable length. Even then you
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  Speaker 3: still get a number so monumentally huge that it would
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  Speaker 3: dictate the entire gravitational destiny of the universe.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's unpack this for a second. The problem manifests
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  Speaker 2: when we plug that massive vcuum energy back into the
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  Speaker 2: equations of general relativity. Because energy has mass.
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  Speaker 3: Equivalent right, e equals mc square.
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  Speaker 2: So that immense density of quantum fluctuations acts like a
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  Speaker 2: repulsive gravitational force.
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  Speaker 3: Which is exactly what we measure as the cosmological constant.
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  Speaker 2: But if the vacuum energy were as dense as QFT predicts,
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  Speaker 2: that our repulsive force would have accelerated the expansion of
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  Speaker 2: the early universe so violently that the hot plasma of
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  Speaker 2: the Big Bang would have just dispersed before a single
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  Speaker 2: atom could even form proof.
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  Speaker 3: Gone, which means no galaxies, no stars, no planets.
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  Speaker 2: And definitely no observers sitting around doing the math to
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  Speaker 2: figure this out exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yet the cosmological constant we actually measure in reality,
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  Speaker 3: the dark energy slowly accelerating our universe today, is incredibly small.
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  Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's like our best math is predicting a
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  Speaker 2: massive nuclear explosion, but when we look out the window,
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  Speaker 2: we just feel a gentle breeze.
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  Speaker 3: That's the perfect analogy. We have this flawless microscopic theory
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  Speaker 3: predicting a blast in a macrosk reality, giving us a breeze.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So how does a theory as flawless as QFT
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  Speaker 2: get this specific measurement so unbelievably wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Well, bridging that gap requires looking for a physical mechanism
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  Speaker 3: that can suppress those infinite quantum fluctuations on a macro scale.
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  Speaker 3: But and this is key without breaking the microscopic rules
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  Speaker 3: of QFT.
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  Speaker 2: Right, because QFT works perfectly everywhere else.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, And the clue to that mechanism comes from a
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  Speaker 3: completely different, almost weird branch of physics. We find the
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  Speaker 3: blueprint in condensed matter physics.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, condensed matter, So we're resuming all the way down
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  Speaker 2: to how electricity behaves in extreme environments.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking at the quantum Hall effect.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, walk me through this.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine you take a standard flat, two dimensional strip of metal,
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  Speaker 3: You run a current through it at room temperature, and
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  Speaker 3: the electrons basically behave like a fluid flowing down a pipe.
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  Speaker 2: Makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: If you apply a magnetic field perpendicularly to that metal,
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  Speaker 3: it pushes those flowing electrons to one edge, and that
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  Speaker 3: creates a secondary voltage cross the strip.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And that's the classical effect that Edwin Hall found
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  Speaker 2: way back in what eighteen seventy nine exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And at room temperature, the voltage across the strip rises
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  Speaker 3: in a smooth, continuous linear way as you crank up
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  Speaker 3: the magnetic.
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  Speaker 2: Field, just a smooth ramp upwards, right.
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  Speaker 3: But the entire paradigm completely shifts when you drop the
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  Speaker 3: temperature of that metal down to near absolute zero.
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  Speaker 2: And you play a really extreme magnetic field, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the classical rules just break down and quantum mechanics
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  Speaker 3: takes over entirely. That smooth linear ramp of voltage. It
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  Speaker 3: completely vanishes.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, it vanishes. What replaces it?
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  Speaker 3: A staircase?
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  Speaker 2: Staircase?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the electrical resistance quantizes as you increase the magnetic field.
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  Speaker 3: The voltage stops going up smoothly. It stays flat on
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  Speaker 3: a plateau and then instantly jumps up to the next
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  Speaker 3: specific value. These are known as Landeu levels. The electrons
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  Speaker 3: are essentially forced into these highly correlated states. They start
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  Speaker 3: orbiting in tiny, perfectly quantized circles, becase because of the
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  Speaker 3: extreme magnetic field.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what's so wild about these jumps is the
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  Speaker 2: absolute precision of the plateaus rights flawless precision, Like, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't even matter if the metal strip you're using is
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  Speaker 2: completely impure. It doesn't matter if there are defects in
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  Speaker 2: the crystal lattice or if the edges are totally rough.
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  Speaker 3: None of that matters. The electrical resistance at those plateaus
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  Speaker 3: is locked into exact fundamental constants of nature. The physical
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  Speaker 3: flaws of the material itself simply stop mattering.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but why what is overriding the physical flaws.
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  Speaker 3: It's a mechanism called topological protection.
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  Speaker 2: Topological protection.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, topology is the mathematical study of properties that
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  Speaker 3: are preserved through continuous deformation. The best way to think
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  Speaker 3: about it is like a knot in a shoelace.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, a knot you can.
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  Speaker 3: Tug the strings You can bend the loops, you know.
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  Speaker 3: You can change the physical shape of the lace all
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  Speaker 3: you want, but that fundamental mathematical knot remains securely tied.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I see, the localized chaos of me pulling on
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  Speaker 2: the string doesn't actually change the overarching structure of the
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  Speaker 2: knot itself exactly.
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  Speaker 3: To undo it, you have to make a very specific,
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  Speaker 3: discrete mathematical move. You have to untie it.
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  Speaker 2: So, in the quantum Hall effect, the collective state of
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  Speaker 2: all those electrons is forming one of these mathematical knots.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the bulk interior of the metal actually becomes an insulator.
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  Speaker 3: It traps those electrons in their tiny circular orbits. But
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  Speaker 3: the edges of the metal become perfect conductors.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so the electrons are forced into like a one
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  Speaker 2: way street along the perimeter exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And if an electron traveling along that edge hits a
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  Speaker 3: physical defect in the metal, say and impurity, it can't
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  Speaker 3: bounce back.
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  Speaker 2: Because the topological rules strictly forbid backward movement in that state.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it just flows cleanly around the defect. The topology
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  Speaker 3: of the entire system creates this mathematical invariant. It's called
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  Speaker 3: a churn number, and that dictates the behavior of the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: So the local chaos, the impurities, the thermal noise, all
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  Speaker 2: of that gets overridden by the global geometric structure of
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  Speaker 2: the electron state. You got it, Okay, but wait a second,
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  Speaker 2: let me push back here, go for it. What does
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  Speaker 2: freezing cold two D metal have to do with the
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  Speaker 2: expansion of the entire universe? I mean, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: map this back to the cosmos. That is the million
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  Speaker 2: dollar question, because the electrons in the metal are being
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  Speaker 2: forced into this topological lock by an extreme magnetic field.
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  Speaker 2: But the universe isn't a metal strip, and it definitely
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a giant magnet clamped around it.
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  Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. So we need something acting as the
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  Speaker 3: magnetic field for empty space itself, right, and we find
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  Speaker 3: that equivalent in the fundamental curvature of space time.
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  Speaker 2: Curvature of space time.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. So there's this team of researchers from Brown
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  Speaker 3: University cosmologists Steffan Alexander working alongside condensed matter theorists Aaron
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  Speaker 3: Huy and heliod Sin Bernardo.
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  Speaker 2: Oh merging cosmology and condensed matter.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool exactly. They started investigating a very specific model
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  Speaker 3: of quantum gravity known as the churn Simon's Kodama state
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  Speaker 3: or the CSCSE.
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  Speaker 2: And the CSKA state is basically a wave function for
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  Speaker 2: the entire universe.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, it's a very conservative old school approach to
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  Speaker 3: quantum gravity. Legendary physicists like Diract, Schrodinger, Wheeler, they all
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  Speaker 3: favored variations of.
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  Speaker 2: This because it's an attempt to unify quantum mechanics and gravity.
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  Speaker 3: Right, building on variables formulated by appi Ashtacar. It's essentially
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  Speaker 3: a way of describing the quantum geometry of space time.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so what did the Brown researchers find when they
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  Speaker 2: looked at the math of this CSKA state.
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  Speaker 3: They discovered something remarkable. The equations governing the geometry of
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  Speaker 3: space time in the CSK model perfectly mirror the equations
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  Speaker 3: governing the electromagnetic fields in the quantum all effect.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, perfectly mirror.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the mathematical parallel isn't just close, it's a direct analog.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, So you're saying the curvature of a desitter universe,
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  Speaker 2: which is a universe expanding at an accelerating rate like ours,
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  Speaker 2: that curvature acts precisely like the extreme magnetic field applied
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  Speaker 2: to the metal strip.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly it. Under the CSK model, the space time
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  Speaker 3: vacuum isn't just this flat, featureless void. It has an
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  Speaker 3: underlying geometric structure, a non trivial.
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  Speaker 2: Topology like the knot in the shoelace.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so, just as the electrons in the metal are
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  Speaker 3: forced into topological knots that lock their electrical resistance into
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  Speaker 3: discrete safe steps.
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  Speaker 2: The actual topology of space time in the CSKA state
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  Speaker 2: forces the cosmological constant into discrete topological plateaus.
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  Speaker 3: You know that.
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  Speaker 2: Here's where it's really interesting for you listening, Because if
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  Speaker 2: the vacuum of space is generating this absolute frenzy of
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  Speaker 2: quantum spikes, right, like that infinite zero point energy from
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  Speaker 2: all those virtual particles popping in and out right, then
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  Speaker 2: the topology of space time is acting like a built in,
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  Speaker 2: unhackable cosmic surge protector.
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  Speaker 3: That's a brilliant way to conceptualize it, right, But it's
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  Speaker 3: not just absorbing the energy like a sponge. The mechanism
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  Speaker 3: is much stricter than that. Stricter how it literally prevents
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  Speaker 3: the energy from interacting gravitationally unless it hits the exact
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  Speaker 3: threshold recired to jump to the next topological staircase level.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's trace the causality of that. In my house,
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  Speaker 2: if a massive spike of electricity comes down the power grid,
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  Speaker 2: my physical surge protector clips the excess voltage. It only
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  Speaker 2: lets a stable one hundred and twenty volts through to
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  Speaker 2: my TV, and it turns all the rest into heat.
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  Speaker 3: Right, that's how a physical circuit works.
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  Speaker 2: But the universe doesn't have a physical heat sink to
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  Speaker 2: bleed off infinite energy exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And in the topological model, the energy isn't bled off
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  Speaker 3: at all. It's rendered totally inaccessible to the macroscopic expansion
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  Speaker 3: of the universe.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so the quantum fluctuations are still happening.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, the virtual particles are still boiling. They still
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  Speaker 3: possess massive localized energy. But because the overarching topology of
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  Speaker 3: space time is locked into a specific invariant.
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  Speaker 2: State, just like the shoelace. Not.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, those microscopic fluctuations simply cannot alter the macroscopic curvature
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  Speaker 3: of the.
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  Speaker 2: Universe because they're essentially trapped inside the bulk of the insulator.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly just like the defects in the metal strip can
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  Speaker 3: can't disrupt the perfect conductivity of the edge states. The
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  Speaker 3: wild quantum fluctuations of the vacuum can't disrupt the stable
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  Speaker 3: topological plateau of the cosmological constant.
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  Speaker 2: The math just overrides the local physical chaos. It acts
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  Speaker 2: as an armor.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the macroscopic gravity of the universe is completely shielded
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  Speaker 3: from the microscopic quantum chaos. The topological invariant restricts the
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  Speaker 3: permitted values of the cosmological.
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  Speaker 2: Constant, so it mandates that the expansion of the universe
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  Speaker 2: takes a safe, incredibly tiny step rather than just blasting
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  Speaker 2: off to infinity.
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  Speaker 3: Which fundamentally reframes that ten to the one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: twenty is power math error we.
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  Speaker 2: Started with right, Because the error isn't that quantum field
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  Speaker 2: theory is wrong about the massive amount of energy in
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  Speaker 2: the vacuum.
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  Speaker 3: No QFT is right. The error is assuming all that
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  Speaker 3: energy is free to participate in cosmic expansion. Oh wow,
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  Speaker 3: it is a stunning synthesis. By taking a mathematical framework
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  Speaker 3: developed to understand laboratory materials freezing metals and applying it
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  Speaker 3: to the canonical equations of quantum gravity, we get a
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  Speaker 3: mechanism that successfully quarantine the infinity problem.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, this elegant new theory it hinges on
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  Speaker 2: the fundamental nature of empty space, and that topic triggers
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  Speaker 2: fierce philosophical and scientific debate today.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's highly controversial. The nature of the vacuum is
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  Speaker 3: fiercely contested territory in physics because.
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  Speaker 2: This topological model inherently relies on the idea that the
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  Speaker 2: vacuum is actually bursting with energy that needs to be contained,
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  Speaker 2: right exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And you have strict skeptics in the cosmological community who
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  Speaker 3: view the very concept of vacuum energy as essentially mythology.
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  Speaker 2: Right from the skeptical perspective, the cosmological constant is just
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  Speaker 2: an ugly mathematical workaround for something we fundamentally don't understand yet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they argue that applying harmonic oscillators to empty space
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  Speaker 3: is a mistake from the get go. They tend to
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  Speaker 3: favor models where cosmic expansion is driven by internal mechanisms.
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  Speaker 2: Like cyclical universes.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, universes that undergo infinite loops of expansion and contraction
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  Speaker 3: where internal energy changes to speed without needing some mystical
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  Speaker 3: background pressure to them. The vacuum is a true literal void.
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  Speaker 2: But then you have the completely opposite counter argument, deeply
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  Speaker 2: rooted in Maxwell's laws and quantum electro dynamics QED.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and from the QED perspective, empty space is demonstrably
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  Speaker 3: not empty. It's active.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it transports electromagnetic wave energy for one.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, and the existence of energetic virtual particles acting as
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  Speaker 3: gravity wells has actually been proven experimentally.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you mean the Casimir effect.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the Casimir effect is fascinating. If you place two
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  Speaker 3: uncharged metal plates incredibly close together in a perfect vacuum,
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  Speaker 3: they will actually be pushed together by the pressure of
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  Speaker 3: virtual particles outside.
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  Speaker 2: The plates, because there are more virtual particles popping into
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  Speaker 2: existence outside the plates than in the tiny gap between them.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. It's often cited as experimental proof that the quantum
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  Speaker 3: vacuum exerts real physical force.
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  Speaker 2: So the QED side argues the virtual particles aren't just
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  Speaker 2: mathematical bookkeeping. They have equivalents, and they actively distort the
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  Speaker 2: space time around them.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So it creates this really stark passionate divide. Is
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  Speaker 3: the vacuum a serene, empty void like the skeptic say,
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  Speaker 3: or is it a raging, violent ocean of invisible energy?
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  Speaker 2: So what does this all mean for you listening? Are
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  Speaker 2: we just fundamentally redefining what nothingness is?
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Well, the real beauty of the Brown University topological solution
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: is that it provides a physical mechanism for both of
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: those realities to be too simultaneously.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Impartially. Yeah, it acknowledges the raging ocean, but provides the dam.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Perfectly said, the chaotic energy champion by the QFT side exists.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: The vacuum is absolutely a boiling soup. But the topological
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: armor of space time perfectly explains why the skeptical side
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: is right to observe a serene, calm universe on the.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Macroscale, because we don't measure the chaos when we look
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: at the expansion of galaxies simply because the geometric structure
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: of reality safely contains it exactly.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: It bridges the gap between the infinitely small and the
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: infinitely large.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's synthesize this journey. We started with Einstein's biggest blunder,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: then we waded through a boiling quantum soup of zero
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: point energy that should have destroyed.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Us, right, and then we took a very strange detour
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: into the quantized steps of electricity in freezing metal, and.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: We arrived at a universe protected by its own hidden
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: mathematical geometry.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: A geometry that locks the destructive forces of the vacuum
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: into safe inert plateaus. I mean it elevates the churn
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Simon's Kadama state from just an abstract theoretical pursuit into
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: a highly practical candidate for quantum gravity.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: It really does. So. The next time you look up
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: at the night sky, remember that the calm, quiet expanse
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: you are seeing isn't an absence of energy, not at all.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: The only reason it's common enough for stars, for planets,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: and for you to exist is because the fabric of
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: the universe itself might be wearing invisible mathematical armor.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: It's beautifully poetic, but it also leaves us with a
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: really lingering, provocative thought to ponder long after this decession ends.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: What's that Well, If the very fabric of quote unquote
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: empty space has a hidden shapes that strictly governs and
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: neutralizes cosmic energy, what other invisible fundamental rules are silently
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: shaping our daily reality.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Just waiting for us to find the right mathematical lens
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to see them exactly.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: We might just be waiting to figure out how to
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: see the knots tying our universe together.