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125. [North Carolina] Shannon Rippy Van Newkirk · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless This Mess and the Drue
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  Speaker 1: Ground Podcast. I'm care here with Stu. Say hey, Stu, Hey,
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: all right, we're back. So we were off for a
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  Speaker 1: week or two due to the We went on vacation,
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  Speaker 1: We went on to Disney Cruise. We had a good time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go on long about this Stuart and Xip. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we got a review that said, and Stu made the
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  Speaker 1: mistake of bringing this up right before we were about
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  Speaker 1: to record, and then I got mad at him.
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  Speaker 2: But saying, we're thirty minutes to lay what could already
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  Speaker 2: be halfway through.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I've already quit the podcast three times recording this
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  Speaker 1: because anyways, no, we got a review in this part.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, why don't we care what one person thinks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if they can't, they can't. Apparently you do
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  Speaker 1: because you brought it up right before we were about
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  Speaker 1: to record.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we can't have a thirty minute And in.
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  Speaker 1: My defense, the time that we did have, we did
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  Speaker 1: go on a really long time about the dog I
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  Speaker 1: said in the call. I said in the description skipped
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  Speaker 1: the first twelve minutes, So it's on them if they
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  Speaker 1: didn't skip it.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's on them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well that's on them though, that's what I'm saying anyways, yees.
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  Speaker 1: So it's in the fine print. Read the fine print. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So we went on our cruise. We did have a
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  Speaker 1: good time. I think we all agreed we did prefer
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  Speaker 1: the Royal Caribbean cruise ship more than the Disney controversial,
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  Speaker 1: I know, but I mean the room was much nicer.
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  Speaker 1: I did like that. But other than that, honestly, for
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  Speaker 1: the price you could just get two Royal Caribbean room stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But besides the fact that like Minnie and Mickey Mouse were.
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  Speaker 2: There for Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for our children, although there were quite a few
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  Speaker 1: Disney dog but we're not gonna get into it because
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  Speaker 1: maybe we have some Disney adults listening to us, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll just say there was some extreme behavior observed. I
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  Speaker 1: mean like there was a bunch of there was. I
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  Speaker 1: think they said about two thirds of the cruise is
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  Speaker 1: just adults with no children, which is fine, but there
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  Speaker 1: was just like a handful of extremely Fanny fan like
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  Speaker 1: fangirl fan crazy behavior that was a little bit odd.
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  Speaker 1: We'll say.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the one person that kept getting in line to
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  Speaker 2: take pictures with the character. Yeah. I wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: like immediately get in the.
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  Speaker 1: Line, yes, and then immediately get back in the line.
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  Speaker 1: It was and we started noticing these this group, these
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  Speaker 1: two every single time until we start pointing out, We're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, this They're like really obsessed. And then
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  Speaker 1: I started wondering, do they even know that that's just
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  Speaker 1: like a person that they paid to put on a
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  Speaker 1: mouse out and we don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you ruining this for all the people that
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  Speaker 2: listen to this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But they had Our children had a good time and
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  Speaker 1: we had a good time. We did come down with
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  Speaker 1: the COVID, so that's why we had not having an
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  Speaker 1: episode out this past week, but it didn't work out
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  Speaker 1: for us because we both me and stew got sick.
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  Speaker 1: The children ended up I think maybe one of them
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  Speaker 1: caught it, but they don't. I like last time we
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  Speaker 1: had COVID, they didn't really get sick. But it took
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  Speaker 1: me in Stew out, so I did. The plane rides
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  Speaker 1: were my biggest stresser. They ended up going really well.
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  Speaker 1: There was just like a few minor times that they cried.
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  Speaker 1: I did cry on the first plane ride because I
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  Speaker 1: was so stressed out. When we got on there, our
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  Speaker 1: two year old he decided to start crying right when
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  Speaker 1: we got on and before we even took off, And
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  Speaker 1: let us just say, it probably lasted maybe five minutes
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  Speaker 1: that he was upset, but it felt like it lasted.
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  Speaker 2: Seventy two hours.
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  Speaker 1: And so then I start there's no children on this
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  Speaker 1: plane too. That's what threw me off too. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, there's no other kids on this plane,
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  Speaker 1: like what are we doing? It was the small flight
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  Speaker 1: from Midland to Dallas. And so then the flight attendant
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  Speaker 1: saw how stressed I was, and he was still crying.
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  Speaker 1: So when she gets up to the front, she says,
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  Speaker 1: now there's a baby on this plane, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: and the baby's probably looking at me like why am
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  Speaker 1: I getting for this? I'm not crying. It was actually
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  Speaker 1: the two year old that cried. And so for people
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  Speaker 1: that don't know, we have three children, a three year old,
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  Speaker 1: a two year old, and then she just turned seven
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  Speaker 1: months old, but she was six months old on the plane.
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  Speaker 1: And the flight attendant, she was real nice. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: this is only a fifty one minute flight. If he cries,
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  Speaker 1: if the baby cries the whole time, you're gonna be okay,
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  Speaker 1: like telling everybody. Well. Then when she ever she did that,
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  Speaker 1: I started crying because I was already so stressed out.
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  Speaker 1: So then she walks by, She's like, are you okay
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  Speaker 1: and everything, and then there's a lady behind me with
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  Speaker 1: this She's like, I'm a mom, dude, it's fine. And
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  Speaker 1: then he stopped crying and he was fine, and then
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  Speaker 1: I stopped crying and everything was fine.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know what's happening. Yes, I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to keep the two year off on cry.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, you cried on the plane. I was like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: because Stu was sitting with him and I was sitting
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  Speaker 1: with our daughter and I had the baby and the
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  Speaker 1: baby carrier. But anyways, I think it went well. We
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  Speaker 1: had a good time, except for it's just like you
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  Speaker 1: go on a cruise ship, you're going to get something,
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  Speaker 1: and a ton of people got COVID and so whenever
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  Speaker 1: I got home that I'm having to call into work
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  Speaker 1: and ask to work from home and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: And then they wanted me to test because they didn't
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  Speaker 1: want me to come to the office and spread it
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  Speaker 1: because it's so contagious. So yeah, so we're our throats
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  Speaker 1: are still a little scratchy, but we're getting through. But
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  Speaker 1: we got to get this done because we are going
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  Speaker 1: on another trip. I have a work trip that the
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  Speaker 1: whole FAM's coming with me, and then we're going to
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  Speaker 1: Fredericksburg for October Fest.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see kind of see them there. We might
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  Speaker 1: see them there anyways. But this will be coming out
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  Speaker 1: when we're headed that way. But anything else do I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to upset you an ex camper in the
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  Speaker 1: in the comment section ex.
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  Speaker 2: Camper, Oh, I know, I mean she she can bring
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  Speaker 2: down a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she almost brought down a marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that was probably the last straw.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's just that you don't say that to someone
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  Speaker 1: when they're about to record. And then he sits there
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  Speaker 1: and tells me that, and then and then Stu has
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  Speaker 1: a real mac for like annoying me and just continuing on.
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  Speaker 1: So but we're back. We're going to pretend to be
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  Speaker 1: happy here when we go to North Carolina and talk
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  Speaker 1: about this murder. Sorry, anything else, Patreon. We do have
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  Speaker 1: that bonus episode out now if anybody wants to check
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  Speaker 1: it out. It's the second part of the Scott Peterson
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  Speaker 1: and we'll we'll try to record some more the rest
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  Speaker 1: of that series as well to put out on Patreon
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  Speaker 1: in between our regular episodes and then Instagram, Facebook, anything
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  Speaker 1: else do?
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  Speaker 2: Nope?
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  Speaker 1: All right? Oh, five stars only on the reviews. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: ex Camper didn't apparently didn't listen to that and all that.
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  Speaker 1: It was five stars only. All right, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: our case out of North Carolina. We haven't been there
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  Speaker 1: in a while, so too, we've never been there. I've
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  Speaker 1: never been to North Carolina, have you?
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  Speaker 2: I have not.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to go.
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  Speaker 2: It looks really we right now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, it looks really pretty though. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So Shannon Rippy Van Newkirk was born April sixth, nineteen sixty. Now,
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  Speaker 1: not a lot is known about Shannon. She was living
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  Speaker 1: in Wilmington, North Carolina, working at mott Landscaping.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Shannon had friends and family whom she spoke with frequently. Frequently.
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  Speaker 1: This included her mom, who she was very close to.
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  Speaker 1: She would speak to her multiple times a day. She did, however,
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  Speaker 1: struggle with a drinking problem. She seemed to have received
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  Speaker 1: several dwi's and then she finally got her license revoked.
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  Speaker 1: Leaving her only source of transportation as a moped because
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  Speaker 1: she couldn't no more. I guess you don't need a
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  Speaker 1: license to drive a moped.
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  Speaker 2: That didn't make any sense. But what maybe they didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you had to any motorized bigle. I thought
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  Speaker 2: you had to have a license.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think a moped is.
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  Speaker 2: Like a it's like a bicycle because it's got ye.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a moped or if
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  Speaker 1: it was like an electric bike. Maybe in the image
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  Speaker 1: in the pictures and stuff like that, but the court
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  Speaker 1: document said she had a moped and that was the
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  Speaker 1: only thing she was allowed to drive. Maybe she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even supposed to be driving that. I don't know. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: she thought I could get away with it if they
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  Speaker 1: come in a if they stopped.
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  Speaker 2: George Jones got one for riding his lawnmower. So visit that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that was the one where I I said, we
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  Speaker 1: have to stop this. Yes, okay, So you go on
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  Speaker 1: about me going on about other things, and then you
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  Speaker 1: go on about George Jones too long, and I had
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  Speaker 1: to put them all.
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  Speaker 2: Need Jesus, that's the end of the episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Stu said I could talk about the cruise as
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  Speaker 1: much as I want at the end of the episode,
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  Speaker 1: which fine, I'm not going to though, because we don't
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  Speaker 1: have time today.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry guys next time.
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  Speaker 1: We're in a bit of a tight schedule right now.
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  Speaker 2: On April sixth, twenty fourteen, Shannon's mom, Roberta Lewis, went
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  Speaker 2: to visit her daughter. It was her fifty fourth birthday
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  Speaker 2: and she was planning on spending time with her. She
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  Speaker 2: knocked on her.
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  Speaker 1: Apartment aportment door.
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  Speaker 2: Apartment door.
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  Speaker 1: Still thinks we're on the cruise aport. Maybe maybe that
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  Speaker 1: was our apartment on the cruise.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm still drunk from the cruise.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're not. You didn't even get drunk on the cruise.
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  Speaker 2: No, I can't. You got three children.
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  Speaker 1: I have three children. You really can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're not supposed to. I mean, I'm sure people do.
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  Speaker 2: Like maybe, uh Shannon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Shannon might had a problem.
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  Speaker 2: With the cruise. Now. Her mom knocked on her apartment
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  Speaker 2: door in Wilmington. However, no one answered, and this seemed
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  Speaker 2: odd to her, but she thought that perhaps she had
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  Speaker 2: went somewhere with a friend.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Shannon is have a drinking issue, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's maybe She's like, oh, you know, maybe she she
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  Speaker 1: got into something last night, or you know, still asleep
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  Speaker 1: or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: So, after waiting a while, she decided to leave. She
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  Speaker 2: left the balloons and a present on the doorstep.
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  Speaker 1: Very trusting.
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  Speaker 2: She proceeded to call her daughter throughout the day, with
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  Speaker 2: no luck in contact in her The next morning, she
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  Speaker 2: still had not heard from a daughter. So she's concerned
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  Speaker 2: now since this is unlike Shannon to go.
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  Speaker 1: This long without like said, she would talk to her
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  Speaker 1: mom multiple times a day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and here we are going on forty eight hours.
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  Speaker 1: Well over a birthday as well.
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  Speaker 2: S exactly. So, she stopped by the house and she
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  Speaker 2: found the balloons and the present were still there. She
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  Speaker 2: contacted the Wilmington Police Department to report her as a
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  Speaker 2: miss person. Officers went to Shannon's apartment with no answer.
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  Speaker 2: After knocking, they forcibly entered the apartment to see if
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  Speaker 2: Shannon was in sign possibly having a medical issue. Police
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  Speaker 2: assess the scene and find nothing seems out of sorts,
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  Speaker 2: no signs of robbery, and nothing missing except for Shannon's purse.
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  Speaker 2: Shannon's moped was still parked outside in her parking space,
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  Speaker 2: and it just seemed that she had vanished. They file
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  Speaker 2: a missing report.
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  Speaker 1: On Missing Person.
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  Speaker 2: Persons report on Shannon on April seventh, twenty fourteen, and
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  Speaker 2: she was assigned to a detective.
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  Speaker 1: Detectives begin by interviewing family and friends. They find that
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  Speaker 1: Shannon had spent time at a bar in downtown Wilmington
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  Speaker 1: the night before her disappearance. Here's a little self reflection,
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  Speaker 1: not to just for anyone in general. If you get
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  Speaker 1: multiple dw as, you probably should take a step back.
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  Speaker 1: This also refers to Shannon from from Real Housewives of
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  Speaker 1: Orange County. She got the DWI, but she's still like
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  Speaker 1: drinking on the show. Maybe she should take a step
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  Speaker 1: back from the alcohol, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, just why if you're having a good time as
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  Speaker 2: long as you're not driving.
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  Speaker 1: No, if you you obviously have a problem. If you're
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  Speaker 1: getting a DWI means you're you're not making good decisions
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  Speaker 1: with alcohol, So you need to probably take a step
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  Speaker 1: back from alcohol for a little bit. That goes for
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  Speaker 1: this Shannon as well as Shannon on Real Housewives of
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  Speaker 1: Orange County. Anyway, so she's she's at the bar celebrating
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  Speaker 1: with a friend because the friend had actually purchased her
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  Speaker 1: a full like makeover package, one of those things where
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  Speaker 1: you go to the spa, you get your hair done,
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  Speaker 1: you get your nails done, you get your makeup done.
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  Speaker 1: Like super nice present from her her friend. So her
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  Speaker 1: friend wanted to meet up with her just so she
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  Speaker 1: could like see you know how it had gone, Like
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  Speaker 1: what do you look like after this makeover I bought
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  Speaker 1: for you? So Shannon was in a great mood, but
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  Speaker 1: as the evening went on, she became upset and just
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  Speaker 1: kind of off. So she's talking to her friend. She
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  Speaker 1: the friend finds out that she was supposed to go
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  Speaker 1: on a date that night, but she was being stood up. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this date was supposed to be with the landscaping. She
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  Speaker 1: worked with the Mott Landscaping. So this was the owner
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  Speaker 1: of the of the Mott's Landscaping and she had had
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  Speaker 1: a Yes, there's a potty watch paint background.
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  Speaker 2: I'm no, I'm just saying that, mister Mott of Mott's Landscaping,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't date employees a story.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's like I don't think it's like
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  Speaker 1: he's the owner of Walmart, Like it's it's probably a
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  Speaker 1: local landscaping, Like he probably has a few lawnmowers in
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  Speaker 1: a well.
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  Speaker 2: You still don't date within the the area that you.
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  Speaker 1: Work, Okay, Well I'm just a bad idea. Well he
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  Speaker 1: was doing that, but he was. He was kind of
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  Speaker 1: Everyone felt that Shannon was much more in love with
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  Speaker 1: with I forgot his name if Mott, No, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: go look for his name real quick. It's somewhere else
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  Speaker 1: in the episode. But the Mott guy like he was,
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  Speaker 1: he was She was very much in seemed very much
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  Speaker 1: more into him and wanting this relationship to go further.
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  Speaker 1: Bradley No, No, not James Bradley still.
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  Speaker 2: His last Mott, James Bradley moke.
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  Speaker 1: No, his last name is Mott. Stephen Stephen Mott. So
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  Speaker 1: he's She's really into Stephen, but Stephen's kind of the
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  Speaker 1: friends and family as they're talking to him about this
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  Speaker 1: Stephen guy, like he kind of leads her on. He
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  Speaker 1: you know, will see her for a little bit and
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  Speaker 1: then he pulls back and everything, and she definitely wanted
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  Speaker 1: it to go be more serious than he wanted it
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  Speaker 1: to be. So while interviewing friends and family, they requested
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  Speaker 1: the cell phone records to try to better track her movements. Now,
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  Speaker 1: when they receive those records, it confirmed that she was
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  Speaker 1: at the bar downtown that night. So all that's like
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  Speaker 1: on track for the times that the friend said. The
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  Speaker 1: phone records also showed that she was in frequent contact
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  Speaker 1: with a man that night and his name was James Bradley.
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  Speaker 1: Not James Bradley, just Dreames Bradley. He does not own
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  Speaker 1: mott Landscaping. Now, when looking into James, they find he
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  Speaker 1: is a coworker of Shannon's at the mott Landscaping. On
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  Speaker 1: April ninth, twenty fourteen, they visited James at his home
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  Speaker 1: to interview him about Shannon's disappearance. Now, when they told
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  Speaker 1: him she was missing, he seemed, you know, very surprised,
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  Speaker 1: very shocked. I couldn't believe that Shannon was gone. He
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  Speaker 1: told police that she was severely depressed and had spoken
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  Speaker 1: of committing committing suicide recently. And he was interviewed a
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  Speaker 1: few days later and told police that the last time
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  Speaker 1: he had seen Shannon was on April third, So this
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  Speaker 1: was two or three days prior to her going missing.
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  Speaker 1: So now they're a concerned based on what James said. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: was she depressed? Was she you know her friend had said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she was in a good mood and then
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  Speaker 1: the guy stood her up, this guy that she's been
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  Speaker 1: on and off in love with for a while. Did
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  Speaker 1: she get to drinking, get depressed and then something happened
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  Speaker 1: to her? And now they're trying to find you know
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  Speaker 1: her some that she did to herself based on what
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  Speaker 1: James said, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: While tracing the cell phone towers looking for Shannon's phone,
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  Speaker 2: they found that she had left the bar that night
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  Speaker 2: and traveled south from downtown Wilmington. They pulled the traffic
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  Speaker 2: cameras that were on the path of the cell phone records.
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  Speaker 2: There they find a truck at around the time that
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: they believe Shannon was traveling. They are also able to
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  Speaker 2: find footage of that same truck from a gas station.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: The gas station footage show Shannon sitting in a truck
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  Speaker 2: and a man going into purchase items from the gas station.
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  Speaker 2: Taking a closer look, the man is familiar to detectives. Kara,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: mm hmm, you know who it might be.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: It might be it was someone with the last name Mott.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: No, you wrote this story, you should know it's Shame's Bradley.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: James Bradley or James Bradley Mott.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Because of the Mott's Apple Sauce fortune mogul. Wow, So
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: they got James Bradley line. They pull his vehicle records
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: and find out that he drives the same vehicle as
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: seen in all the traffic camera footage and they're like, dude,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: you're lying, so we need to question you some more.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: So they bring him back in and they also get
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: a search warrant for his home and his vehicle. Explain yourself,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: mister Bradley, Yes.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: You've lied quite a bit to us. You were actually
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: seen with Shannon the night that she disappeared. So this
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: is looking suspicious. So James tells police that he did
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: lie that night. He's like, you know what, I'm not
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: gonna lie right now. I did lie. I did lie it,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: but that he had nothing to do with Shannon's disappearance.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: He told police that he had taken Shannon into a
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: local business and dropped her off. So this is his
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: new story. So police run down his story. He's not
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: gonna lie again, but video evidence proves he is lying again. Oh, James,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: no one was dropped off at that business the night
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: of Shannon's disappearance. I mean he should have done some
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: research or picked a place without the cameras. They bring
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: him back in and he tells them that he was
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: driving with Shannon when she began speaking to Stephen Mott,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: which is the owner of Mott's Landscaping, the guy that
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: she had been stood up, was supposed to go on
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: a date with everything, and then she just jumped out
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: of his vehicle near Greenfield Lake and that is the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: last he had seen her. And police are kind of questioning, like, okay,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: so this woman that you're friends with, your coworker jumps
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: out of the vehicle and you don't go after her.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: She's just out there in the middle of nowhere. You
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: just leave, like this is.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Why she jumped like a frog officer right out on
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: my way. Now, I couldn't find her in the dark one.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So he just he said, he said he didn't
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: want to look like he was a he e didn't
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: want to look suspicious, as if he was chasing her
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: down and make people think that something was that he
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: was doing something.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: He could be chasing her. Someone drive by and they
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: shoot him, thinking he's.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Again trying to get a woman.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: That's what he said. It sounds plausible.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: If he wasn't already a pathological liar, we might be
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: able to believe him. He tells them that he was
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: hesitant to tell them the truth because of his past. Now,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: when looking into James's past, they find that he had
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: been convicted in nineteen ninety of first degree murderer for
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the death of his eight year old stepdaughter, Ivy gets
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Gibson in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Now in June of nineteen
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: this is the story from that why he was in prison,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: which my question is why is he not in prison
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know it's first degree murder.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: So in June of nineteen eighty eight, James reported Ivy
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: as being kidnapped from a bus stop in Fayetteville. Now,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: please investigate the disappearance and find there's holes in this
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: story the where he said she was abducted. There it
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: was like staged. I guess maybe some of her stuff
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: was like stage to have been dropped or something. So
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: James finally confessed after two days that he was actually
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: at home sick when Ivy woke him up by turning
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the TV up too loud. So he's laying in bed sick.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: She turns the TV up and it just he just snapped.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: He picked up a. He started choking the girl, and
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: then he picked up a sock by and wrapped it
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: around her neck. He then attempted to cover up his
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: crime by placing the girl's body in a trash bag
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and taking it to the He ended up pleading guilty
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to first degree murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: So why is he out? Like this is a horrific crime.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: He killed an innocent eight year old. I don't care
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: if she did turn up the TV. Whatever it is.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: It all sounds like bullshit to me though, but whatever. However,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the crime occurred prior to the North Carolina Structured Sentencing Act,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: so he was eligible for parole, like you get so
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I guess prior to that you were you could get
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: life in prison, but you were allowed. You had to
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: be given the option for parole eventually. So unfortunately, after
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: twenty five years, on February eleventh, twenty thirteen, the pro
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: boar decided to release him.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Well, so now we have people to hate yes and blame.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Yesinger point, yes, he's apparently too. They let him out,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and but there was records of him having written two
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: short stories where he like violently murders and rapes women
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like talking about murder, and they
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: still let this guy out, Like this is insane to
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: me that after twenty five years, they're like, let's let
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: a strong, healthy mail that killed an eight year old,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Let's let let's write in stories about raping and murdering women.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Let's just let him out into the.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: He seems like a nice guy. Yeah, what's say you
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: rest a pearl board.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I'd like to know what the thinking was or And
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: apparently he never he pleaded guilty to that crime, but
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: he never really took accountability for it, because I'm pretty
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: sure he was lying about he just snapped because she
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: turned the TV up, like something else is going on there.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: But they said he never really took accountability for killing
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the little girl. He just said that she made him
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: like she was basically blaming the victim, like she made
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: him angry. That's why he did what he did. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: yet somehow he got let out on pearl out into
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the world. And now here we are a year later,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and this is where we're That was in twenty thirteen,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: and this is all happening in twenty fourteen.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Now with this information, police pressed James for more answers.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: He denied harmon Shannon, but he did admit to taking
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: at least one woman to a vacant lot owned by
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Mott Landscaping to have consensual sex with her.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. After finding out all this stuff too about James,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the suspicions on Stephen Mott kind of went out the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: door quickly, like they've got an actual convicted murder that
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: was last seen with Shannon.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a weirdo for sure too. So police started
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: their searches for Shannon at all the properties owned by
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Mott Landscaping. This included the wooded areas around these lots,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the area around James's homes, and Greenfield Lake, Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Where he said that Shannon had jumped out of his vehicle,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: which sounds suspicious, does it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: They were unsuccessful in finding her body or any signs
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of struggle or Shannon's things. On April twenty ninth, twenty fourteen,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: as they were searching for Shannon on a farm owned
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: by mott Landscaping, and this property was one that James,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: who would mow and clear on a regular basis, across
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the naked body of a woman inside three trash bags.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: These bags were buried in a shallow grave and the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: woman was in the fetal position with her legs bound
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: with duct tape. They set in the body in for
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: forensic testing, and they initially think this must be Shannon.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what are the odds They're looking for
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Shannon who's been missing and was last seen with a
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: convicted murderer, and then they find a body of a woman,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So immediately they go. Now that they have the body,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: they go and arrest James for the murder of Shannon. Now,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: once brought in, he immediately asked for a lawyer and
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: just stops talking to police As they speak to the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: people in James's life, he apparently had created a cover
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: story for why he had been in prison for that long,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Because you know, if someone's been in prison for twenty
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: five years for murdering an eight year old, you're not
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: going to have a lot of friends or people wanting
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to hang out with you. I would think like you'd
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: be kind of an outcast. Nobody probably, yeah, nobody'd really
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: want to hire you. Things like that. Well, because apparently
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and he told people that he killed his ex wife's
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: lover in a fit of rage and it spent twenty
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: five years in prison for that crime. So that's a
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: much more palatable crime. I would say, you're just.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: You show up, you find him in bed, you lose
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: your shit.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: He didn't even say I killed my ex wife. He's
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: killed his ex wife's lover. So then people might be
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: able to understand that type of murder and rage, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: never would understand why you killed an eight year old
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: little girl. Now, with James not talking, and also whenever
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: they heard this, they kind of understood why maybe Shannon
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: was in the car with him, because she didn't know
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the full story either. So with James not talking, they
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: turned to the crime scene evidence. Now they weren't for
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: a big surprise because forensics testing would show that it
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: was not Shannon's.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Do it was not no, it was not Wow.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: The body was of a woman by the name of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Elijah Tucker and she was thirty three years old. Now
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of rude on the I read.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: So I wrote most this based off the court documents,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: but there was a Forensic Files episode and so I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: was watching that and the medical examiner came on and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: she immediately so Shannon's fifty four and Elijah's thirty three.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: So she gets on there and she said, I knew
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: immediately she said this, this was not the body of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a fifty four year old woman. This was the body
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of a young woman. I was like, wow, really, some shade,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: just some shade, come on. And then I was expecting
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: them to say, like, something's twenty and she was like
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: thirty thirty three, thirty four. So I felt like, you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: fifty four's young STU right, yeah, I would, thanks, so okay, yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so this is this is the shock of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the lifetime that this is not Shannon to them. I mean,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: because anytime you hear it's like when we were covering
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the Lacy Peterson thing. You find a body, everybody knows
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: this is the person they've been looking for, a body
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: of a woman, and nine times, I mean ninety nine
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: percent of the time, that's who you're gonna find. If
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: there's a body randomly found, you don't ever think it's
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: going to be somebody else. So Elijah, she had four
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: broken ribs and had been bludgeoned or slammed into something
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: four times. That's what the autopsy revealed. She had been
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: missing since August twenty thirteen, and one of the detectives
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: that was working on the Shannon case. Immediately whenever they
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: described the woman and everything, he started thinking could this
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: be Elijah, And then it turned out it was because
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that was a case that he had been working on
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the year before. With this new murder victim, police are
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: immediately suspicious of James. They find that he would have
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: been the only person with the means and opportunity and
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that knew that location. Remember this is the Mott landscaping.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: He's cutting the grass there, He's clearing the land like
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: he's out there frequently. He's also one of the few
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: people that would know the code to the gate to
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: be able to access access it to dispose of the body.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I guess the only other person would probably be the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Stephen Mott guy. Now, in addition, looking at the forensics
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: from the scene, one of the items that can be
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: tested is the duct tape that was wrapped around the woman,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So they find that it matches duct tape that was
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: found at James's home, and then they also find bleach
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and trash bags used in a nearby building where James
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: would frequent on the property where he probably got the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: trash bags. So he brought the duct tape with him
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and got the trash bags from the actual farm.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Site where he was working. Yeah, Now they did not
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: have Shannon's body, and they decided that if they should
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: drop the case against Jans for Shannon's murder. They ultimately
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: decided to go forward without a body.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because at this point they're like, should we It's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: hard to try a case without a body, Like, that's
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: what they'll tell you. And now they don't have a body.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: They have somebody's body, but just not Shannon's body.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Now, this is going to make things a whole lot
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: more difficult for the prosecution. So they start by offering
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: him a plea deal to take the death penalty off
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the table. He declines that. They then proceed with the trial,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: hoping that they could convince the jury by showing them
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: who James was, that he was a serial killer. They
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: presented to the jury the cell phone evidence James lyon
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: multiple times and his pattern of murder.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it was, you know, because sometimes they
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: won't let your past into a trial. But I believe
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that was one of his things that he was trying
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to appeal on, was that they allowed them to talk
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: about the.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Fact that he past crimes. They believed that he had
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: killed Shannon through strangulation or some other means that would
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: not produce any blood or forensic evidence, and then disposed
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of the body because his vehicle did not show any
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: signs of violence towards Shannon in it there was blood or.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Hair well, I mean even if they found a hair, they.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Had hair roots or anything like that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's something that he wouldn't have to similar
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: to like he they already have it on record that
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: he did murder someone, that the child that way was
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: through strangulation. In the end, James Bradley was convicted of
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: second degree murder in the case of Shannon Rippy van
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Newkirk and was sentenced to thirty three years in prison. Now,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the family of Shannon was pretty disappointed that he did
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: not receive the death penalty for all the lives he
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: had taken. I mean, he's now murdered a child, He's
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: murdered Shannon, and then I mean we all know he
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: murdered Yeah, So and then they still didn't know where
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Shannon's body was. James, he wouldn't confess, he wouldn't take
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: any responsibility. He wouldn't tell him where he disposed of Shannon.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't tell him anything. So they're still searching to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: this day to bring some closure to the family now.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And two, the only good thing is that he's not
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: going to get out of prison again. But they did
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: for that he get the death penalty. Well, because see
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: what happened the one he didn't get the death penaltry anything,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and then he got out again and he killed two people.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they didn't have a body for the
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: second one, so they can't get him really on first
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: grade murder with the death penalty, so they had to
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: go second to gred murder.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to do what they could without him
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: speaking or actually even having a body. So in twenty nineteen,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: James Bradley was tried and convicted of the murder of
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Elijah Tucker and he was sentenced to life in prison
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: for that one. And they could they believe that he
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: could be involved in other murders in the area. They
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: just don't know. So he's on their radar because obviously
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: in just the short amount of time he was in
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: prison until February twenty thirteen, and by April of twenty fourteen,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: he'd already murdered two women. So this could he could
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: definitely be responsible for other plenty more. Yeah, and apparently
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: with his work and working for the landscaping company everything,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: he apparently knew quite a few places to dispose of
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: bodies where no one's going to find it. I guess
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the Mott Landscaping was more than just a lawnmower werre.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: He apparently owned.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: A lot of real estate.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, so yeah, So that's our case out of North Carolina.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: It's a short one this week because.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: We are time short on time.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: We're short on time. We're going to try to get
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: one out for next week, but it's going to be difficult,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: but we're going to try really hard because.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: We're going to go, come home, turn around and leave
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: right again.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just how things worked out. Was So, what
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: happened was the Fredericksburg Am I allowed to talk? Nails
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to you an ex camper? Am I allowed to talk?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Now we're at the end.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Can I leave the room?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: If no, you're not allowed to leave the room. You're
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: not allowed to leave ever, you're.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Oh God spelled death to us part.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yes. So what happened was we booked the Octoberfest in Fredericksburg.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: You have to book like an Airbnb if you want
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to be close to it pretty fear in advance. So
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: this was when we lived in Louisiana. We went to
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the Louisiana Octoberfest, which.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, okay, Robert's Cove. Is that the one in
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Robert's Cove?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It's not a bad October.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Well, what it is is there's families there that a
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: priest came over back in the eighteen hundreds. So all
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: these families were having a family reunion and then one
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: day they're like, hey, why won't we just turn this
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: into German Fest into another louis That was twenty five
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: years ago, and that was twenty five years more now.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: That was so basically, yeah, basically this festival to started
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: out as a family reunion. Then they started selling tickets
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: for people to come. So and evidently the first one
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: was not very well organized or managed.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: No, because that was the one your mom went to
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and she was like, this thing sucks, and so we
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: decided to give it a try.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: That was there or three years in a row.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: But your mom's one of those ones that like if
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it sucked the first time, she's like.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: That's wow. And I went there a quarter century ago,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: was terrible, So I'm not going.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: But they have improved and it, but I mean she
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: was correct, it is not when we go to this
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: not a German it's a family reunion where they with
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: some German music and they have leader hose in and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: they do the chicken dance, and they do serve some
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: German type food, but it's not like anything. I mean,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I think they're a.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: German Cajun mixed fusion basic.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: They did have some German family come and shows how
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to make sauerkraft one year, so that was something. But
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the Octoberfest in Fredericksburg, that's like a German town and
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: they have a whole list of like offen take German food,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I mean as I think as you can get without
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: being in Germany. But it's so you have to book
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: an area if you want an Airbnb, especially with us
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: being with all these children, we have to be close by.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: We can't be trying to load up a car every
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: time we want to go down and find parkking and stuff.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: So we got us airbnb right across the road from
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the street from the or like where it's held in
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the main part. But we've never been in Fredericksburg either,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: So I had to book this like almost a year ago.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: To get this airbnb. Right after we moved here, I
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: booked it, and then after that I decided to book
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: a cruise. And then if you go in September on
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Disney the Halloween ones, it's cheaper during September because of
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: hurricane season.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And now we somehow got right in between two we missed.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: There was two hurricanes, one sandwiching us like one the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: week before and then one this past week that Heleen
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: or whatever it's gone.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Well that really messed everybody up.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we missed. So so if anyways, it was cheaper.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: So then the Disney cruise came about and then we
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: have a over there in New Mexico. My work was
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: giving out tickets to the Hot Air Balloon Festival, and
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: so we don't know how long we're going to be
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: in this area. Hopefully not more than another year or two.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: That's pously. This balloon festival is the one to see
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: in being.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: It's an international one. There's like they do these like
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Grand Descent or ascents or whatever, and it's four five
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: hundred hot air balloons and things like that. So we're
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: gonna So then that happened the next weekend. It's going
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: on this weekend and next weekend. So we're going to
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: or not this weekend, two weeks, next weekend and the
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: next weekend. So that's back to back and then we'll
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: be home for like five weeks and then.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: We're we're going to do something else.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: We're going to do something crazy. Guys, we'll tell you
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: all about it. We're doing something crazy.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I might have to do a whole podcast just
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: dedicated to that. Mini podcasts.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll make sure and let x Camper know not
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to listen. She's not listening again anyway. She said she can't.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: She can't even well, I mean she could come back
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and just leave the review as it is. Just bump
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: it up to five stars.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just say five stars and then say I can't. Okay,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: that's fine.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: You people suck, I can't five stars.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll do what you ask.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, that girl that said that we were misusing
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: our talent, she gave us five stars, well it was
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: like three. And then she must have gone back and
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: up at the fire.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Because we said five stars. Only you say what you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: want in the comments, so I know she's still listening.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she thinks we have talent.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So that's our episode. Stude, do you
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: have a our child threw up on us on the
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: way home?
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that was in the trans that was in the
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: transport from the Yeah ship to there.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: We only had one incident where there was throw up,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and that was like a I think a. Our children
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: are sleepers. Let me tell you, Like they sleep eight
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: nine o'clock in the morning. The baby slept till ten
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: o'clock this morning. Like, they are sleepers, and when we
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: have to wake them up early, it's not fun for anybody.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: So she got up, she drank it's on the ship.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Normally at home they get milk in the morning, but
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: on the ship there was chocolate milk, obviously because it's crazy,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and so she was having chocolate milk every morning like
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: special treat. So she had her chocolate milk and her
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: little We usually give them a little gram cracker or
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: something because they're not big eaters in the morning either.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: You gotta wait until like ten eleven o'clock to feed
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: them their breakfast, and they're like brunch. These are high
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: matenance children. They are you know what, I don't care.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: They sleep through the night in their own beds. They
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: can do whatever they want during the day. So she
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: so we're driving the car and I'll we got one
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: of them big ass mini sprinter vans because we have
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: so much stuff and all these people and all these
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: car seats and everything. So we get in and I
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: get car seats sick pretty easily. So we're all in
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the back and I was thinking, oh my god, I'm
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: gonna have to find me a bag. I'm gonna throw
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: up in this car. And then it kind of passed
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and then my daughter starts going. She's sitting
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: next to me, She's going, my tummy's red. And I
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: was like, I've never heard this one before. This is
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: a new one. My tummy's red. Like what do you
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: mean your tummies read? It's red? And I'm like, okay.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe she needed to go to the bathroom
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: or something. And I was like, okay, well, we're almost
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to the airport and everything. It was about a forty
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: five minute drive. And so then she said it again,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and I should have known. I should have got a
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: bag and everything, but I didn't. I just didn't think
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: any of it. I thought maybe she was thirsty or something.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: So I gave her a little sip of my water
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: and the minute I gave her the water, it came
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: right back out all over me, like the side of
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: my pants. They were in a car, she was in
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a car seat, so most of it landed on there,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: and then the seats were like a leather pleathor type thing,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: so it didn't really affect the vehicle, and not much
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: got on the vehicle actually, but it was like gram
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: crackers and chocol milk. It was disgusting.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: It cost me a twenty dollars tap to the driver.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, so we were. Uh so we were twenty dollars.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Just saw you gave him. I would have given him more.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I thought you.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I might have gave him forty. I don't know.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You probably gave him forty because we would have given
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: him twenty dollars probably normal.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: It wasn't expensive sprinter though. It wasn't his van though.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: He worked for a company, so it's not like he
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: was out. But it didn't matter. I cleaned everything up
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and you couldn't even see it. He didn't even know
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: what was going on. So, oh you did? You told him?
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I think you're sorry. The girl got sick, and I like, huh.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: It's like whatever, I got to go pick other people.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised he didn't hear the commotion going on. You
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: are sitting right behind him.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I think he was in his own little world.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, he was starting to talk to us like
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: chit chat at the beginning, but he quickly saw that
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: that's not my h that's definitely not your strong No,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not I can't do.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I thought you were chatty on the cruise.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I don't even start with me. No, Stuart says that
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I start chatting with people. Stuart's a chatty Kathy, but
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: What's a chatty Cathy.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: But I also realized something. Stuart's a chatty Kathy, but
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: he's really bad at it. He's so terrible with small talk.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I think he even told you, I'm like, you're the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: worst one small talk like it's it's I think we're
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: both terrible at it because we're not. That's just not
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: our forte.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I don't even That's probably how we got together. Yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how we got together. I don't know.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so we got to the airport, we changed,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: had to change clothes, every we had to change. We
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: were there way ahead of time, and then we had
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: passes from our uh that we could use the United
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Club and that was awesome. That was the best thing ever.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: If you're ever in the Orlando airport and you have children,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: it's worth the money to pay for the one day
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: pass because you're going to spend that money on food
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: anyways in the airport, but we had a long time
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to wait. We had like two hours before our plane ride.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: So I think we had almost three. We had four
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: by the time I got to the airport. But after
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: getting checked in and all the other boats, yeah, we
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: had a lot. I screwed up our bag check in.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they screwed up our bag check in.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Then we had to stand in another line. Then I
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: had to wait on y'all to change.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but everyone did really well. The baby did well.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I did run out of food on the first flat
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: because I am pumping still, So I pump and I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: thought I had enough food for her, and I thought
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I could pump on the plane, but that just didn't
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: work out. I had to give the baby, Like, don't
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: judge me, it wasn't gonna hurt her, but I had
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: to give her some apple juice because I like, she
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: was starting to cry and she wanted food, but I
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: didn't have any, and we were It was at the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: point where I couldn't like go and decide to come.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: We were descending, Yes, we were descending, and I think
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: our ears were popping and I didn't. We ran out
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: of milk and I had to give her apple juice.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I felt so bad about it, but I don't normally
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: give her that, and she's not going to kill her
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the one night, the entire world, how terrible mother I am.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: All seven billion people that listen to this podcast.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: She might have had like maybe an ounce or two
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: of the juice, like that was that was it. I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: felt really bad about that. So why are you looking
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: at she didn't have any more than two ounces of
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the juice. She had two ounces of apple juice because
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: she was She liked it, though she was like, what
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: was this new? But then we did deal with it
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the next day because she did. She did. Uh. They
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: come out have quite the blowout from it, but she
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: was fine. Everybody, don't don't this third child.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, everything's fine, thine apple sauce at the age. Why
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: are you worried about people?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I know, because people are gonna be like, oh my god,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you fed your baby juice. That's not terrible, no, no, but
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: it was either that or let her scream on a
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: plane without a right mountains and so yes, so yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: there's people giving their babies mountain dew right now.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: People.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: What I did was not that bad. So but yeah,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: overall I think it was good.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: You think, yeah, well we didn't kill each other. We
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: came backstill marrion, three kids, still yeah, and.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: The I think maybe we might do it again if
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the little littlest one, like my daughter really and our
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: daughter really enjoyed it, because she's three and a half
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: almost four, and she loves Minnie Mouse like loves her,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and so our son he's two, and he he liked
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: it like he When I say he liked it, I
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: mean he he liked the characters when he got up
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to him and stuff like that, but he didn't understand
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: like the waiting in line and everything at that, Like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: he wasn't excited like she wanted to go see the characters.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: And the baby obviously doesn't care at all. She was
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: just like what the fuck is this? Like every time
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: she had her face on, like what the fuck? What
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: kind of furry shit are you guys into? Anyways, but
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: so she so she didn't really care. So if in
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: a couple of years, if the baby is into it
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: and the middle ones into it, then we might do
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it again. But it is expensive. I will say that. Like, so, man,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: these people are already booking next Round'm like, Jesus, we
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: need to I'm like the Tiger King. We need to. Financially,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I will never financially recover from that, financially recover from
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: the this Disney cruise before we put book another one.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, I mean it wasn't bad.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Do you mean it wasn't bad?
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Disney Cruise wasn't terrible.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: The price or what it was.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the price was, you know, I'm saying.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I'm saying on the I'm saying on the the financial
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: aspect for already be booking another one. To me, it
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: just seems like but they probably have more money than us,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: so it's fine.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, Maymber, they buck their other one two years ago
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: and it was paid for and they just keep paying
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: an advance. I don't know.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: But they also got to do is put that deposit
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: money down.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just gotta get this, I guess.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: So.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was our cruise. We had a good
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: time in Florida. Yeah, and then we'll tell you all
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: about October fift not you, ex camper, You're not allowed
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: to listen to this. So you're to band band from
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the your band from the chit chat, your band from
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the podcast, your band from the podcast. Now what unless
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you're listening right now, go back and change it to
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: five stars and then your band? All right?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Or are you going to become a patron?
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Well stude, do you have a yelling Jesus?
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Of course I have a yell need Jesus. I always
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: have a yell need Jesus. Okay, in honor of our trip,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Oh God, coming to us from the main stage, the
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: main stage. Put your hands together for Savannah. The New
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: York Post per Uge my go to by Jorge Fitzgibbon,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: October seventeenth, twenty twenty three. Wanted man tried to throw
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: cops off with I don't live here signed Florida, not Florida,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: not Florida. A Florida man wanted by the cops tried
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: to throw him off his trail by placing a big
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: sign outside his house reading Johnny Yates does not live here.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: It did not work. Yates, forty one, who was wanted
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: by the Polk County Sheriff's Office on aggravated battery, false
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: imprisonment and tampering chargers, was eventually locked up. Deputy showed
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: up at Yates's Lakeland home at around two forty five
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: pm on Saturday after getting a tip that he was
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: holed up inside. When the deputies arrived, they noticed a
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: note written on a dry erase board in front of
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: a window that said Johnny Yates does not live here.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: The post said, Gee, a dry erase board never lied
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: to us before, shouldn't Should we believe it? Deputies questioned
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: someone leave in the house who confirmed that Yates was inside,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: but after surrounding. But after surrounding the house for an
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: hour and calling the fugitive to come out, Cobs had
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: to take it to the next level of the office.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Did they have to write it on a dry erase
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: board to come out?
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Well? They wrote on the dry erase board. Enough was
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: enough and the surrender. Smoke was dispensed inside the house
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: and four people exited the home, but no Johnny. Deputies
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: called out some more, but still no response from Johnny,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: so a second helping of surrender. Smoke was put inside
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: the home to waft around a bit.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Who were these other four idiots that didn't come out
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the first time? The police were like I would been like, sorry, Johnny,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: your sign didn't work. I'm leaving.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I'm out of here. You're in here by yourself. So
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Johnny still didn't come out. Finally, deputies and canine unit
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Dexter entered the house and located Johnny, who was hiding
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: in a modified chest of drawers. Johnny was arrested and
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: taken to jail. The office said that the four people
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: who were initially holding in the house with Yates were
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: also dealt with. In regards the four people who weren't
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: cooperating with deputies, each one received a parting gift, a
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: charge of resisting, and an all expense paid trip to
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Grady Judge's bed and breakfast, Polk County Sheriff Grady Judge.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: That is oh get it?
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Well, you never know about Florida. It could be some sort.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Of new restaurant for criminals.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah you think maybe?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Anyway, that is our yall name Jesus for the week
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: for this episode.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Good jobs. Do you actually had it?
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I always have it?
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You don't always have.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I got a girl.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, no, trust me, I'm still mad at you.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just making it through for the for the for
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the listeners.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: You know what, they don't care. I don't care what
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: you gonna do, what you gonna do.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I know we got saddle myself with this man with
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: three children, so you know here we are. I need
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: someone to help me.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: And you're gonna get mad because I bugged you.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Before a pip you did bug me Stewart.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, is that all you got?
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: All right? Well, we gotta go pack again. We have
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: any like everything's a mess because we also had the
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: COVID afterwards, so that really threw everything off. We couldn't
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: like we like literally didn't do anything for a week.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: We haven't cleaned nothing, so we got to go.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: You haven't even showered.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: No, I haven't. I have showers. It's I've been homes.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: We we have to go pack and we gotta go
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: clean and then we'll be You.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Gotta wake these children up there, Charlotte too.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Yep, we got their napping right now. Well, not the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: oldest one. She's watching her.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: She gets hurt, she does, she does.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we try not to give them, not because I'm
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: like all high and mighty on screen time, but we
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: like to let save screens for when we really really
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: need them, so they don't get their pads, their iPads
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: or whatever except for recording time. She gets it because
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: that's the only way we can get her to go
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: in there and like leave us alone. She also needs
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: some downtime, she needs to she won't take it. She
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: stopped taking naps. It like right when she turned two.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Who does I know our son.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Takes two and now taking a nap?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, why can't I be any one
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: of these children or the cat cats they're all taking
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: You took a nap yesterday, Steward, and the day before.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: You took a nap after I got it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter, don't Yeah, I slept in this
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: morning and I knew I was gonna hear about that one.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't heard about it, and you complain about me
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: taking it out.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm not complaining about taking the nap. I'm
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: not saying that you do get to take naps take it? Well, no,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: not every day, but our son he's a nap. He
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: likes his naps.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: He'll go and leave us and.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Be like go lay down and he bring me my milk,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: you know. So uh, but yeah, she likes it because
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: on these recording days she does. It's when she gets
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: her pet and then other times we use it is
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: travel and I was surprised though we didn't have We
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: brought so much like Melissa and Doug, like mess free stuff.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: We didn't even have to use the pads on the
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: flight home on the long flight. We gave them to
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: them on the second flight because we're like, f it,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: we're almost we don't need to save these. So yeah,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: it worked out perfect. But all right, well, I think
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that's it. Patreon check us out if you want that
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: other episode of Scott Peterson.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Or that will follow it.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: No, Stuart, don't make promises we can't keep, okay, and
• 48:31
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• 48:33
  Speaker 1: It's just a little something for general support to help
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: us out to you know, pay for Disney Group. And
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: then we got Instagram, Facebook, and I think that's it
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: right wherever you subscribe iTunes or what's it called Apple podcasts?
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, it's called.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Five stars only, and I think that's it. Anything else
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: now all right, we'll see you next time. By everyone,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: say bye basta.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Don't you know it's bad to be superstitious. Find nothing else.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: It's working, and my hand is
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Really burning, and sick of all it's worrys I cambage