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How Big Of A Concern Is The Ohio State Offensive Line? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special live episode of buck Eye
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, December nineteenth. I'm your host Tom Moore.
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Speaker 1: The Tennessee game in two days, the game he gets
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Speaker 1: Michigan three hundred and forty five days. Tony Gerdaman just
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Speaker 1: got a chance to hear Ryan Day for the final
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Speaker 1: time before the game kicks off on Saturday. It seems
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Speaker 1: like a broadly optimistic tone. But boy, I think the
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Speaker 1: first thing we have to talk about is the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: And the phrase that I wrote down is that they
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Speaker 1: might see a rotation at both guard spots. Sounds like
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Speaker 1: that's he's really talking about this week and not Saturday.
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Speaker 1: But it's Wednesday afternoon. You have a college football playoff
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Speaker 1: game on Saturday. A rotation at goth guard spots does
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Speaker 1: not sound super super great to me right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, three guard offense is supposed to be basketball, not football.
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Speaker 2: And Mika mentioned it in the comments. You know, a
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Speaker 2: night person did if you three guards, do you have none?
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Speaker 2: And that's that's a little bit of what it almost
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Speaker 2: feels like. And to have the idea that Austin Sierveld
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Speaker 2: is maybe going to start at left guard but then
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Speaker 2: also play at right guard and mix in both places,
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Speaker 2: and Luke Montgommery will either start at left guard or
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Speaker 2: rotate in at left guard with Austin Siraveld. So Austin
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Speaker 2: will be going back and forth between left guard and
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Speaker 2: right guard, and you're you'll have to look at the
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Speaker 2: film tonight to see who should be starting at left
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Speaker 2: guard this tom I've can I've crammed for some exams
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Speaker 2: in my time. This feels a little bit like that, like, ah,
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Speaker 2: you know, just keep putting it off, putting it off,
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Speaker 2: and you know then it's like, oh gosh, Justin Fryer
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Speaker 2: has like a fourteen page paper that is due this
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Speaker 2: weekend and he's, you know, well, let's see what the
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Speaker 2: film looks like tonight. So yeah, it's certainly not ideal
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Speaker 2: for I mean, that's that's my biggest takeaway coming out
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Speaker 2: of this is Okay, one you don't know who you're starting,
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Speaker 2: and two but you know you're playing three of them.
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Speaker 1: M yeah, that that feels like you're not if if
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Speaker 1: you feel like your guard spots are good enough and
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Speaker 1: you have a good answer there having too many good answers,
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Speaker 1: you just make it pick and you do it and
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Speaker 1: you move on. Being at this point of the week
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Speaker 1: without having either guard spot totally settled feels to me
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Speaker 1: a lot like they're not you know, it's not well
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Speaker 1: both of these both of these choices are too good
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Speaker 1: and I can't possibly choose between my two favorite children.
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Speaker 1: And it feels like, well, which is the least worst
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Speaker 1: of these? And that's you know, that has to be
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Speaker 1: a concern. Oh, Tennessee has a good defensive line, the
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Speaker 1: interior the defensive line. Omar Norman Lott in the one
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Speaker 1: of their nose guards. He is a really impactful player
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Speaker 1: on the interior that defensive line, and so they are
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Speaker 1: going to have to figure that out because you can't
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Speaker 1: have a repeat of the Michigan game where the interior
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Speaker 1: of the offensive line is a huge problem. Tennessee's interior
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Speaker 1: the offensive line is not quite as good as Michigan's.
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Speaker 1: They're good, they're not quite that good. But boy, you
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Speaker 1: saw how much how disruptive that could be against Michigan.
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Speaker 1: If it's that disruptive again, I feel like that's a
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Speaker 1: that that has to be a concern.
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Speaker 2: This certainly doesn't feel like one of those situations with
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Speaker 2: too many options, like the the the jiff of the
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Speaker 2: little kid with the little fat kid with the two cookies,
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Speaker 2: and he can't decide which one. You're like, gosh, left
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Speaker 2: guard or right guard. This is not that. This is
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Speaker 2: a situation where to me it feels like, well, we're
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Speaker 2: going to try this and if it holds up, then
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Speaker 2: we won't need to rotate, and if he doesn't, then
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Speaker 2: we will rotate. Or if he holds up and we
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Speaker 2: rotate and it doesn't work, okay, then we go back
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Speaker 2: to the other guy. It's kind of the velociraptors testing
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Speaker 2: the fence and seeing if what they can get away
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Speaker 2: with and looking for actually looking for a strong spot
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Speaker 2: rather than a week spot. But you know this, the
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Speaker 2: messaging at least is yeah, it's okay to make mistakes,
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Speaker 2: but just go fall out. As Rande was saying, rock
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Speaker 2: off the ball, make some mistakes at full speed. It's
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Speaker 2: the hesitancy, it's the holding and those things that will
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Speaker 2: impact them negatively. If you make make mistakes, but you're
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Speaker 2: doing it with all out effort, then you can maybe
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Speaker 2: make up for it, or at least that's that's less
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Speaker 2: less bad than a lack of effort and lack of execution.
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Speaker 1: And they talked about the guard thing. After he talked
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Speaker 1: about the offensive line more broadly and how it's looking
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Speaker 1: in practice this week, and we saw him yesterday spending
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Speaker 1: when we were in there, spending a decent amount of
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Speaker 1: time working pretty closely with the offensive line because obviously
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Speaker 1: that is the single biggest question for the team and
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Speaker 1: the single single biggest concern, I would say for the
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Speaker 1: team right now. So makes sense that that's where the
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Speaker 1: head coach is can be focusing most of his energies.
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Speaker 1: What was your sense of his evaluation of the offensive
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Speaker 1: line so far this week.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's only saying all of the good things,
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Speaker 2: and you know, they're looking good and they're playing with
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Speaker 2: the right energy. And coaches always talk about they always
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Speaker 2: say that, you know, they paint a rosie picture. But
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Speaker 2: Ryan Day with the offensive line has not always painted
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Speaker 2: a rosie picture. As we know. We always revert back
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Speaker 2: to the spring of twenty twenty three where you could
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Speaker 2: see the danger in his eyes about the Ohio State
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Speaker 2: offensive line. So he you know, there are times where
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Speaker 2: you can just tell no matter what he's saying, you
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Speaker 2: can tell and I don't know, this is almost watch
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Speaker 2: what they do, not what they say. In terms of Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you're saying all of the right things, but you're still
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Speaker 2: looking for your five best and now it's down to
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Speaker 2: six and this this was this is not a deep
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Speaker 2: offensive line. So the fact that you have to keep
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Speaker 2: going deeper is not exactly instilling comp confidence that things
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Speaker 2: are going to go well. Now that being said, you
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Speaker 2: can kind of hide a little bit at guard, you know,
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Speaker 2: so you can you can get away and you can
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Speaker 2: you can you kind of scheme around some things. And
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Speaker 2: whether that's you know, zone blocking and they're with with
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Speaker 2: their teammates, you know, kind of pushing along or if
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Speaker 2: you have some you know, gap about blocking it and
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Speaker 2: pulling in here, like you go get that guy? Is
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Speaker 2: that easier for you? You go get that guy? This
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Speaker 2: is what you're good at. Just go do that and
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Speaker 2: and we'll go it will work with that, and we'll
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Speaker 2: we'll scheme it up. And Ryan Dy did say, you know,
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Speaker 2: they like the scheme that they've put together. I bet
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Speaker 2: they like the scheme they put together against Michigan as well.
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Speaker 2: And I think that Ryan Day talked about this year
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Speaker 2: Monday about and so did Chip Kelly. The the scheme
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Speaker 2: that they put together against Michigan was kind of hampered
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Speaker 2: by situations. The so much of that coming out or
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Speaker 2: going into the red zone. So this, you know, it
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Speaker 2: also comes down to situations and feel position as to
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Speaker 2: how good your game plan is. And I think there
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Speaker 2: are areas where you should feel good against Tennessee. But
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Speaker 2: it still comes right back to that offensive line to
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Speaker 2: give everybody else time to make those plans come to fruition.
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Speaker 1: And here's when from Odyssey is just to get some clarification.
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Speaker 1: Are they actually going to rotate or make a substitution
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Speaker 1: if things don't go well early with one of the guards.
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Speaker 1: My senses, everything's on the table at this point.
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Speaker 2: How else would you how else would you rather have it?
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Speaker 2: In the playoffs, we are going to try anything. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's that's my thought as well. And if somebody is
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Speaker 2: playing well, are you really going to yank in? I
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Speaker 2: don't think so. Like if they're pancaking dudes, you're not
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Speaker 2: gonna pall them.
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Speaker 1: Right if you're If the offense is rolling and they
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Speaker 1: change something up and then the offense stops rolling, boy,
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Speaker 1: there is no faster way to get called an idiot
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Speaker 1: by ten million people in state of Ohio then by
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Speaker 1: messing with something that's working, So yeah, I would fully
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Speaker 1: expect them to. If it's working, don't mess with it
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Speaker 1: if it isn't working. I've compared this earlier in the
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Speaker 1: week to Game seven of a Major League Baseball playoff
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Speaker 1: series where the starter gets knocked out early. Who's available, literally,
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Speaker 1: everyone except for the guy who pitched last night. Everyone's available.
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Speaker 1: Whatever you have to do to get to the game.
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Speaker 1: If they felt like Cayden McDonald could move from defensive
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Speaker 1: tackle to offensive guard, I'm sure they would think about
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Speaker 1: doing it, whatever whatever it takes. I'm not expecting that,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, shuffling three guys between the two guard positions
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Speaker 1: is kind of the equivalent of a bullpen game. On
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Speaker 1: the interior of your offensive line, one thing we haven't
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Speaker 1: really talked about this week is the interior of the
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Speaker 1: Ohio State offensive line is kind of the question for
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Speaker 1: the buck Eyes. The exterior the two tackle positions for
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Speaker 1: Tennessee are kind of the questions for the volunteers. Would
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Speaker 1: you rather Obviously the answer is neither. I'd like to
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Speaker 1: have five good offensive linemen, please, But would you rather
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Speaker 1: have questions at tackle or questions on the interior?
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Speaker 2: Boy? I think if your center is good, then you
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Speaker 2: can have some questions at guard, but if your center
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Speaker 2: is also part of those questions, then that's not good.
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Speaker 2: But I think if you're looking at it in terms
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Speaker 2: of Ohio State, probably not going to be trying to
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Speaker 2: run the ball inside anyway, so then maybe that mitigates
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Speaker 2: that whole situation. I do think with the tackles being
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Speaker 2: the premium that they are, the offensive tackles and the
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Speaker 2: pass rushers that we have in this game that everybody has,
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Speaker 2: these two teams have in this game, like there's a
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Speaker 2: premium there as well to create an issue for either quarterback.
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Speaker 2: And if you're talking about Tennessee's tackles, we've seen them
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Speaker 2: struggle throughout the season. At times. They're not always struggling,
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Speaker 2: but you know, when you're when you're watching this, there
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Speaker 2: are some things that just continue to po So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: with the inability to avoid having bad tackles, I think
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Speaker 2: that's you know that to me, I would probably feel
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Speaker 2: better about having good tackles than than shaky guards. But
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Speaker 2: I don't feel good about either.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, It's it's just it's just one of those
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Speaker 1: things where we have seen shaky offensive lines blow up teams,
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Speaker 1: whether Ohio State teams or other teams. In every possible combination,
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Speaker 1: you see teams with bad tackles get torched and and
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Speaker 1: that the pass rush gets there and it just implodes
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Speaker 1: the whole running game or the whole passing game. That's
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Speaker 1: just kind of one of the fundamental things about football
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Speaker 1: is talk to old timey football coaches. We would sit
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Speaker 1: in front of Earl Bruce in the press box for
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Speaker 1: years and Earl Bruce would go all about the Hall
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Speaker 1: of Games, wing in the trunches and we got to
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Speaker 1: win the game and be able to run the football.
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Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, old man, and yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: tell me about the onion on your belt. But it's
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Speaker 1: also like the reason that that has been the standard
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Speaker 1: thing for college football coaches for probably one hundred years
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Speaker 1: is because that's where the game is won and lost.
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Speaker 1: So neither team. You know, it's very easy to look
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Speaker 1: at Ohio State and go, well, they're screwed. But I
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Speaker 1: think Tennessee fans, if they want to be real honest
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Speaker 1: and they're looking at the matchup of their tackles against
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Speaker 1: Ohio State's edge rushers. There was a question during the
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Speaker 1: press conference for Tennessee's offensive coordinator yesterday about that. It
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Speaker 1: was kind of like, so, Ohiostate has thirty five sacks
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Speaker 1: and a bunch of those have come from their edge. Guys, like,
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Speaker 1: how are you feeling about that? And the answer was
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Speaker 1: not super duper, It's going to be great. I put
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Speaker 1: that in a bonus episode in the Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning
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Speaker 1: Feed on Wednesday morning. You can find that on our
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Speaker 1: YouTube channel as well, just it's about Tennessee coaches that
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Speaker 1: went up on Wednesday morning, so you can watch all
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Speaker 1: that stuff there. But I mean, this is very easy
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Speaker 1: to for Ohio State fans to look at things and say,
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Speaker 1: you know, no one has ever been in a worse
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Speaker 1: position than a high state is. And you know, I
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Speaker 1: mean they're ten and two. They lost two games by
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Speaker 1: total of four points, including one to the number one
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Speaker 1: team in the country by one point. Yeah, they lost
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Speaker 1: to their rivals. Maybe they got a little bit in
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Speaker 1: their heads. Guess what their rivals are playing in whatever
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Speaker 1: the Outback Bowl is called now and going to lose
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Speaker 1: by thirty to Alabama. So that Michigan is not Ohio
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Speaker 1: State's problem right now. Tennessee there should be no there
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Speaker 1: should be no you know, head case anything about Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: It's Tennessee is has to come on the road in
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Speaker 1: not great. You know, it's give me chili and face
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Speaker 1: a hostile crowd. So you know how great can Tennessee
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Speaker 1: be feeling? They're at seven point underdog, give or take.
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Speaker 1: This is and you know, as Daniel Sanchez says, support
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Speaker 1: this team. That's that's what Ohio State fans can do.
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Speaker 1: If you want to see Ohio State win, show up
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Speaker 1: on Saturday, be loud. That's that's what you can do.
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Speaker 1: The comments on the live stream Facebook is like jonestown
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Speaker 1: right now, Holy smokes, Like gang, It's going to be okay,
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Speaker 1: Settle down, It's going to be okay. This is still
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Speaker 1: a very good football team with very good football players.
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Speaker 1: They're playing at home, and they have a pretty good
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Speaker 1: chance to win this game on Saturday and then your
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Speaker 1: three wins from the National Championship. So maybe climb down
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Speaker 1: from the roof for just a few minutes and just
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Speaker 1: watch the football game on Saturday and see how it goes.
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Speaker 1: Because this is there are what twelve teams in the
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Speaker 1: playoff and one hundred and twenty two teams who would
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Speaker 1: trade happily for Ohio State spot. Right now, and probably
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Speaker 1: a bunch of other teams in the bracket would trade
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Speaker 1: happily for Ohio State spot. They're what the second or
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Speaker 1: third highest odds to win the national championship right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if we want to be real honest, I
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Speaker 1: bet Tennessee would trade spots with Ohio State right now.
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Speaker 1: Trade rosters, trade stadiums, you know, trade trade where you're
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Speaker 1: playing the game this week?
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: And does that mean Ohio State couldn't lose, No, of
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Speaker 1: course they could. You could any team could lose this weekend.
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Speaker 1: We'd have no idea how these games are going to
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Speaker 1: play out because we've never seen teams have to do
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Speaker 1: this kind of a turnaround, and some teams have to
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Speaker 1: do a turnaround after a conference championship week game. All
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Speaker 1: of that stuff. It's just it's all a little bit unprecedented.
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Speaker 1: But I think you have to just maybe take it,
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Speaker 1: take a deep breath and relax and let it, let
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Speaker 1: it play it. Remind yourself this is the thing you
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Speaker 1: do in life that is supposed to be fun, So
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Speaker 1: maybe stop trying to make it the most miserable thing
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Speaker 1: in the world.
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Speaker 2: Stop painting it, start loving it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's uh. Oh boy, the block button getting
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Speaker 1: a workout today, Ladies and gentlemen. All right, here we go,
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Speaker 1: So here we go. Uh Todd wants more Earl Bruce
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Speaker 1: impressions Tony. What if Earl Bruce was Australia beat me
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Speaker 1: to it? Yep. David Greenshield says, if we don't win,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna blame Tom.
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Speaker 2: You know, tough but fair, hey, And we have seen
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Speaker 2: we've seen photographers impact games before by injuring the the
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Speaker 2: quarterback knees and things like that way back when. So
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Speaker 2: not putting it past anybody.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, before we move off completely off of the offensive
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Speaker 1: line topic, I do want to touch on this briefly.
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Speaker 1: We recorded an instant reaction show that you can go find,
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Speaker 1: but just for folks who maybe are just hopping on
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Speaker 1: or haven't seen the news. Ohio State got a commitment
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Speaker 1: from Minnesota transfer right tackle Philip Daniels, three years remaining
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Speaker 1: for him. You know, it's an interesting spot. The Buck
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Speaker 1: guys absolutely need offensive linemen. They need to bolster the
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Speaker 1: offensive line, especially at the tackle position. So this feels
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Speaker 1: like this is potentially a really big addition. But you know,
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Speaker 1: he's not a multi year starter by any means this
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Speaker 1: is not bringing in a Jonah Jackson or you know,
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Speaker 1: bringing in a Seth McLaughlan. This is more bringing in
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Speaker 1: Josh Simmons and maybe even a guy who played at
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Speaker 1: a little higher level than Josh Shimmins did at San
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Speaker 1: Diego State, but a guy who has not played as
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Speaker 1: much as Josh Shimmons when he steps on campus at
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Speaker 1: Ohio State.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's started the final four games this year at
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Speaker 2: right tackle as a red shirt freshman, viewed as the
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Speaker 2: right tackle of the future for Minnesota. So this is
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Speaker 2: this is a loss they didn't want to suffer and
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Speaker 2: an asy you guys saw. Ryan Day was asked specifically
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Speaker 2: about Philip Daniels and he didn't really say anything specifically
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Speaker 2: about Philip Daniels. He just talked about the approach to
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Speaker 2: the portal as a whole, and yeah, I think you
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Speaker 2: get what you can get, and this is a Cincinnati
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Speaker 2: kid who wanted to come back home. So you know,
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Speaker 2: you need guys, and this won't be the last guy
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Speaker 2: they get. They still need a left tackle, but now
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Speaker 2: you feel better about your right tackle and whether that
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Speaker 2: means Philip Daniels as you're starting right tackle or not,
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Speaker 2: that means the competition, the talent level has been raised,
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Speaker 2: and you've brought somebody in with some experience and in
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Speaker 2: the Big ten. As Tom said, it's like the San
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Speaker 2: Diego State being what it is. It took Josh Simmons
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Speaker 2: a little bit of time to go from San Diego
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Speaker 2: State to Ohio State and play to that level. Philip
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Speaker 2: Daniels has played against Penn State, He's played against Illinois,
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Speaker 2: He's played against teams like that, so he knows what
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Speaker 2: it is and what to expect, so he can hit
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Speaker 2: the ground running when he does get to Ohio State.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we got a st say, We've got a
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Speaker 2: video out there so you can watch that after this one.
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Speaker 2: And we've got some clips in there of Philip Daniels
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Speaker 2: as well, so you can see what we're talking about
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Speaker 2: against Penn State.
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Speaker 1: All right, we have let's move on now to special teams.
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Speaker 1: We'll bounce back to the offense and the defense a
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Speaker 1: little bit in a minute. But David Greenshield up, Sorry,
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Speaker 1: I hit the wrong one. Drowsey Dragons has no field
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Speaker 1: goals in this one for for Ohigh State. After the
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Speaker 1: Michigan game and Brian Day was asked about the kicker situation,
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Speaker 1: and this was another one where I kind of went,
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Speaker 1: you know, the questions asked and you're kind of expecting, Okay,
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Speaker 1: well the answer is going to be, Yeah, the guy
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Speaker 1: who started for us all year is going to be
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Speaker 1: the guy. And that was not the answer that we got.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he said that, although he said they're going
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Speaker 2: to continue to watch it today and tomorrow, not that
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Speaker 2: that's any different than what they normally do, even though
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Speaker 2: it's it's always been Jaden Fielding for the last two years,
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Speaker 2: but said they'll they'll watch it in Austin Snyder, the
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Speaker 2: other walk on kicker, will have an opportunity to win
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Speaker 2: the job. And boy, I I would not expect to
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Speaker 2: go into a playoff game with somebody that I don't
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Speaker 2: believe Austin Snyder has ever done anything, maybe more than
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Speaker 2: than a placements at some point. Yeah he's got something. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's kicks tri kickoffs and three extra points this year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. He took over on kickoffs, I think
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Speaker 1: after Fielding had the one game where he kicked like
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Speaker 1: three balls out of bounds, and he's had a couple.
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Speaker 1: He's been you know, the guy who comes in when
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Speaker 1: they're up fifty you know, fifty five to nothing, and
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Speaker 1: he kicks the extra point to make it fifty six
18:42
Speaker 1: to nothing. So he's played, but he has not had
18:45
Speaker 1: a Boy, this is a national TV game and season
18:50
Speaker 1: on the line, and it's windy, and you know he's
18:54
Speaker 1: so he's been there, He's been around. I don't I've
18:57
Speaker 1: watched him some during warm ups. I don't think he
18:59
Speaker 1: has an enormous leg by any means. You know, it
19:02
Speaker 1: might just be if Jaden Fielding, Jayden Fielding at his
19:06
Speaker 1: best is probably better than Austin Snyder at his best.
19:09
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying that that based on the fact
19:11
Speaker 1: that Jaden Fielding has been consistently the number one kicker
19:14
Speaker 1: for a number of years when Austin Snyder's also been
19:16
Speaker 1: on the team. But is as is Jaden Fielding going
19:19
Speaker 1: to be at his best this week? They Wednesdays a
19:22
Speaker 1: day they do the most kicking. I saw there was
19:23
Speaker 1: someone in the comments saying they only work on kicking
19:25
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. No, the kickers generally will go out and
19:28
Speaker 1: work before practice. The kickers will go out there and
19:31
Speaker 1: kick field goals and work on punts and all that
19:34
Speaker 1: kind of stuff for half an hour an hour at
19:36
Speaker 1: least before practice. They just don't take like a full
19:39
Speaker 1: dedicated period to work on field goals every single day.
19:42
Speaker 1: That's just not how they do it. Wednesdays a day
19:44
Speaker 1: when they do that. So they'll do that at practice
19:47
Speaker 1: this afternoon, starting at four o'clock and then see where
19:50
Speaker 1: things stand after that.
19:52
Speaker 2: Now with Austin Snyder, so he's this is his second
19:54
Speaker 2: year at Ohio State. He's a fifth year, sixth year,
19:57
Speaker 2: fifth year guy who played his first three at Finley
20:01
Speaker 2: where and I can just read some stats for your time.
20:03
Speaker 2: Made thirty one of forty career field goals with a
20:06
Speaker 2: long of fifty one yards, was one hundred and five
20:08
Speaker 2: of one hundred and eleven on extra points. Was first
20:12
Speaker 2: team All Conference in twenty twenty two after making fifteen
20:15
Speaker 2: of twenty field goals. And the fifteen field goals was
20:18
Speaker 2: it Finley record. And as we know, if you set
20:21
Speaker 2: records in northwest Ohio, that means something.
20:24
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah for sure. That's you know, you're not
20:27
Speaker 1: kicking in ideal kicking situations or you know. But it's
20:30
Speaker 1: real flat in Finley and so the wind is moved.
20:32
Speaker 1: The wind is probably blowing about nine hundred miles an
20:34
Speaker 1: hour most of the time. So yes, that's going to
20:37
Speaker 1: be that's going to be something that we'll prep you
20:40
Speaker 1: for whatever you're facing weatherwise on Saturday. But yeah, I'm
20:44
Speaker 1: I'm still expecting Jaden Fielding. But you know, we'll we'll see.
20:49
Speaker 1: Crazier things have happened and that probably changes your fourth
20:53
Speaker 1: down decision making to a certain degree if you're if
20:56
Speaker 1: you're you know what your confidence level is in the kickers.
21:00
Speaker 1: Let's move on now to the running backs. The running
21:02
Speaker 1: game for Ohio State. You know, Ryan Day was asked
21:05
Speaker 1: about Travon Henderson and quinch On Judkins and how they
21:08
Speaker 1: look and how they feel right now this time of year.
21:12
Speaker 1: Dylan Samson for Tennessee has basically the same stats in
21:16
Speaker 1: terms of carries and yardage and touchdowns. It's you know,
21:19
Speaker 1: he has more touchdowns, fewer yards, but basically the same
21:22
Speaker 1: number of carries as Judkins and Henderson combined. Earlier in
21:26
Speaker 1: the week, Samson talked about the fact that this is
21:28
Speaker 1: the best he's felt, and boy, you know, having a
21:30
Speaker 1: couple of weeks off really made a difference in terms
21:33
Speaker 1: of how he feels. You get the sense from talk
21:35
Speaker 1: Listen to Ryan Day talk like Travan Henderson and quinch
21:39
Speaker 1: On Judkins are both in about the best condition and
21:42
Speaker 1: Ohio State running back has been at this time of
21:45
Speaker 1: the schedule maybe ever.
21:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen Trayvon Henderson with like similar numbers to
21:52
Speaker 2: what he has right now, but that was because of
21:53
Speaker 2: injuries and missing time. Now he's at one hundred and
21:57
Speaker 2: eight carries this season, which is nothing for him, which
22:01
Speaker 2: is for some guys. That's a three game stretch. And
22:04
Speaker 2: quinch On Judkins with one hundred and fifty one hundred
22:06
Speaker 2: and forty seven carriers. So both of those guys much more,
22:09
Speaker 2: much fresher than they've ever been. And as Ryan Day said,
22:12
Speaker 2: like they're seeking contacts now and this is not that
22:15
Speaker 2: you're just running into contact. Why don't you run away
22:17
Speaker 2: from it? It's it's the fact that they're not shying
22:20
Speaker 2: away from it, where this time of year you might
22:21
Speaker 2: be like I, I'm going to try to avoid every
22:24
Speaker 2: hit that I can get, Like I don't need to
22:26
Speaker 2: be hit right now. It hurts, I'm sore, it's cold.
22:29
Speaker 2: Like they're running with the purpose, with energy, and as
22:32
Speaker 2: he said, they want them to get them downhill and
22:36
Speaker 2: just get going because with either of these guys. If
22:38
Speaker 2: you can just get them going, just get them past
22:41
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, anything can happen, and that won't
22:45
Speaker 2: just be like he said, we can't just run wide
22:47
Speaker 2: the entire time, but you can. You can run misdirections,
22:51
Speaker 2: you can run counters, you can run between the tackles,
22:55
Speaker 2: but do it in a way that isn't just north south.
22:58
Speaker 2: There are obviously things that they need to find that
23:01
Speaker 2: they can do that work. And we've seen at times
23:04
Speaker 2: where Tennessee you can run the ball a bit on them,
23:07
Speaker 2: and there are times where you can't. So clearly it's
23:10
Speaker 2: going to come down to some execution for Ohio State
23:13
Speaker 2: and finding the best combination. Really, if they start running,
23:17
Speaker 2: you better not You better not rotate anything, don't screw
23:21
Speaker 2: anything up. If you've got something that is working, keep
23:24
Speaker 2: doing it until Tennessee stops it, and then maybe try
23:26
Speaker 2: to do it one more series and see if you
23:29
Speaker 2: can get it going again.
23:31
Speaker 1: This is a phrase that has probably never been said
23:33
Speaker 1: out loud by anyone in the history of college football media,
23:39
Speaker 1: but the Ohio State coaching staff could stand to learn
23:41
Speaker 1: a thing or two from Lane Kiffin, because Lane Kiffin
23:44
Speaker 1: one thing late I know, I see a reaction, Tony,
23:46
Speaker 1: I get it, believe me. Just on the field, just
23:49
Speaker 1: in this one case, you got to throw your place
23:52
Speaker 1: shoot real and no you don't do that. You have to.
23:54
Speaker 1: If you've got something going, Lane Kiffin. If something's working, great,
23:59
Speaker 1: run it again. Did it work again, great, run it again.
24:02
Speaker 1: Like you don't. You don't get points for diversity of
24:05
Speaker 1: play calling. You don't have. You know, this is not
24:08
Speaker 1: figure skating where you have to certain required elements you
24:10
Speaker 1: need to check off during the course of your short program.
24:13
Speaker 1: If it's working, keep running it. If you if you're
24:16
Speaker 1: running the pause option and it runs for fifteen yards
24:19
Speaker 1: against Michigan, don't put it back in the garage and
24:21
Speaker 1: say we'll see it in the college football playoff. Run
24:24
Speaker 1: it again and then run something off of it. Run
24:27
Speaker 1: a play action off of it, run and end a round.
24:30
Speaker 2: Off of it.
24:31
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do. Take what's working, and keep
24:35
Speaker 1: just keep working it until it stops working. And they
24:38
Speaker 1: had opportunities to do that at various times against Michigan
24:42
Speaker 1: and didn't. Didn't always do that, And this is that's
24:44
Speaker 1: something that the coaching staff will sometimes not want to do.
24:47
Speaker 1: And Ross chuctor Ross faulton, but the fact that Chip
24:49
Speaker 1: Kelly is kind of known for not doing that. He
24:52
Speaker 1: doesn't want to kind of keep wearing something out, and
24:54
Speaker 1: it's like sometimes if it's working, you might want to
24:56
Speaker 1: stick with it.
24:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, just get through this chain her ut volca. Every
25:01
Speaker 2: pub asks, besides Penn State, what is Ohio State's next
25:04
Speaker 2: best win? Not throwing shade. I'm seriously curious if you
25:07
Speaker 2: were to look at the playoff bracket, you would see
25:11
Speaker 2: two Ohio State victories in that brackets, as Indiana and
25:16
Speaker 2: Penn State have both been defeated by Ohio State. So
25:19
Speaker 2: two of the top twelve teams.
25:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ohio State has two wins over teams that are
25:23
Speaker 1: eleven and one. So two wins over teams that are
25:26
Speaker 1: in the college Football playoff. Like, that's not and I
25:29
Speaker 1: know Indiana is not, you know, a brand that you
25:33
Speaker 1: it's not a game that, let's be honest, that we
25:35
Speaker 1: had circled on the calendar before the season. But you know,
25:39
Speaker 1: I mean Tennessee has not been a brand that people
25:42
Speaker 1: have had circled on the calendar for very much for
25:44
Speaker 1: a lot of the past twenty years. So it's not
25:46
Speaker 1: you know, yes, Tennessee is better historically than Indiana. But
25:50
Speaker 1: the last few years, Tennessee and Indiana have met in
25:52
Speaker 1: Bowl games I think more than a couple times, which
25:54
Speaker 1: means they've been programs of a similar caliber at times
25:57
Speaker 1: last couple decades. So you know, I wouldn't look down
26:01
Speaker 1: my nose too much at Indiana, especially especially this year.
26:04
Speaker 1: And I would long term probably bet on Tennessee to
26:07
Speaker 1: have a better next five years, next ten years in Indiana.
26:10
Speaker 1: But this year's yeah, I don't think. I don't think
26:15
Speaker 1: anyone is saying that's not a quality win for Ohio
26:17
Speaker 1: State to go back to. A couple things, A couple
26:22
Speaker 1: more things from the Ryan DA press conference. Last thing
26:25
Speaker 1: on the Ohio State side before we talk a little
26:27
Speaker 1: bit about Tennessee the day on Saturday for Ohio State,
26:33
Speaker 1: how they've changed their schedule this week, how they're changing
26:37
Speaker 1: how their what their schedule looks like on Saturday, because
26:40
Speaker 1: they are very much they have all season for the
26:42
Speaker 1: back half of the season, they have been in the
26:44
Speaker 1: rhythm of Okay, get up early, get to the stadium early,
26:48
Speaker 1: play a noon game, You're done at mid afternoon. Now
26:52
Speaker 1: they're just getting to the stadium at the time when
26:56
Speaker 1: their workday was normally done. So how have they tweaked
26:59
Speaker 1: their preps this week and this month to and what
27:02
Speaker 1: are they planning to do on Saturday.
27:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, we call that you've been moved to second shift.
27:08
Speaker 2: You're no longer working first shift, you are now second shift,
27:11
Speaker 2: And basically everything just kind of goes from there. That
27:14
Speaker 2: he did say they didn't want to practice too late
27:16
Speaker 2: in the evening because then that just makes the day
27:19
Speaker 2: long at HACK, so there are no classes going on,
27:21
Speaker 2: but they're practicing from like four to six, four to
27:23
Speaker 2: six thirty, and then you know, they allow the kids
27:27
Speaker 2: to stay up a little bit later at night. And
27:30
Speaker 2: we always when we talk to players, like they love
27:32
Speaker 2: night games, the like the the environment, but they hate
27:35
Speaker 2: waiting for them. They they prefer just getting up and
27:38
Speaker 2: going playing the nude games and like just the waiting.
27:41
Speaker 2: Because we always talk to the coaches and we're like, yeah,
27:43
Speaker 2: we want them off their feet. And it's like I've
27:44
Speaker 2: been off my feet from for like, you know, eleven
27:47
Speaker 2: to three in the afternoon, Like I'd like to be
27:49
Speaker 2: able to walk at some point I'd like to get
27:51
Speaker 2: on my feet. And so the schedule has been reflective
27:54
Speaker 2: of that night game and just moving things a little
27:57
Speaker 2: bit later into the evening and getting them ready for
28:01
Speaker 2: that and the later mornings that we would all love
28:06
Speaker 2: we don't all get to enjoy. But yeah, so they're
28:08
Speaker 2: a second shift team right now.
28:09
Speaker 1: Tom, it's having as someone who has worked third shift
28:14
Speaker 1: at times in the past, second shift still not too bad.
28:17
Speaker 1: The uh if if you have ever worked in TV,
28:20
Speaker 1: uh the overnight shift is even worked in anything for
28:24
Speaker 1: the third shift? Oh boy, that's uh. There's a reason
28:27
Speaker 1: they pay you a shift differential. Put it that way.
28:31
Speaker 1: So let's uh. Yeah, well here's one from wing man
28:34
Speaker 1: Ted before we move on. If a house date performs
28:36
Speaker 1: well on second shift under the lights, how much will
28:38
Speaker 1: we hear about noon games killing the team afterwards? Oh?
28:41
Speaker 2: Well, certainly some. I would say that. Any any shade
28:44
Speaker 2: that people could throw a big noon or whatever noon cakes,
28:48
Speaker 2: I'm sure would be a well received. Kevin Noon, any
28:51
Speaker 2: kind of noon, I'm here for it. Frankly.
28:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's that's uh, you know, I don't I
28:58
Speaker 1: don't think that's why they've.
29:00
Speaker 2: Can I tell you the story? So you know, I
29:02
Speaker 2: was talking with somebody who basically they've been too many
29:07
Speaker 2: many games around around the country, and said that the
29:10
Speaker 2: only loud game that they noticed at Ohio State this
29:12
Speaker 2: year was the Indiana game. And I'm like, well, for one,
29:16
Speaker 2: it's a terrible schedule because there was no big game.
29:21
Speaker 2: Indiana was the biggest game, and so it was very loud,
29:24
Speaker 2: and the crowd, just the higher state crowd needs needs
29:28
Speaker 2: a big game to be loud, and they need need
29:31
Speaker 2: a reason basically to get loud. And they were louder
29:34
Speaker 2: than they were against Michigan because one, I think they
29:37
Speaker 2: were bundled up and muffled literally and figuratively. But then
29:42
Speaker 2: in Michigan and the Michigan game, when things get a
29:43
Speaker 2: little bit tight, the crowd gets a little bit quiet,
29:47
Speaker 2: and so yeah, I would expect that it was not
29:49
Speaker 2: as loud as and it could have been. So this one,
29:53
Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to be very very loud again
29:56
Speaker 2: and impact things. So I would expect this to be
29:58
Speaker 2: more of an Indiana crowd out, unless, again, the nerves
30:03
Speaker 2: get to people if things don't go well. Initially, because
30:06
Speaker 2: Ohio State had a lead in against Indiana and things
30:09
Speaker 2: felt good, so you're boisterous, and then you know Michigan
30:12
Speaker 2: got the nerves going. So I'm interested to see what
30:15
Speaker 2: the fans do in this one in terms of impacting
30:18
Speaker 2: the game, because I keep saying it, they they can
30:22
Speaker 2: swing this thing. This they can turn the three point
30:25
Speaker 2: game into a ten point game. They can turn you know,
30:28
Speaker 2: they have an opportunity to impact the game. However many
30:31
Speaker 2: are there. We talked about the disadvantage for Tennessee with
30:35
Speaker 2: their tackles if they're in a silent count and the
30:38
Speaker 2: tackles they're looking down to see when the ball is snapped,
30:40
Speaker 2: when the guard moves, and then they're snapping their head
30:42
Speaker 2: back to find a defensive end. That creates even the
30:45
Speaker 2: slightest advantage for Ohio State. That might be all that
30:48
Speaker 2: you need.
30:50
Speaker 1: And let's move on to the Tennessee side of things
30:53
Speaker 1: a little bit here because we're kind of making that
30:54
Speaker 1: turn right now. One of the things that Tennessee's offensive
30:57
Speaker 1: coordinator said yesterday was, you know, talking about Nico Iamaliava
31:01
Speaker 1: and how as a young guy, you know, he doesn't
31:04
Speaker 1: get rattled very easily, and you know, they one of
31:07
Speaker 1: the things they pointed to was it was fourteen to
31:10
Speaker 1: nothing Vanderbilt. Five minutes into that game. Vanderbilt ran back
31:13
Speaker 1: the opening kickoff for a touchdown. Two plays in, Dylan
31:16
Speaker 1: Simpson fumbles, Vanderbilt has like a twenty five yard touchdown
31:21
Speaker 1: drive and bing bang boom, ten minutes left in the
31:23
Speaker 1: first quarter, you're down fourteen points, and that Iamaliava didn't blink,
31:27
Speaker 1: and it's fine, and he came right back and they
31:30
Speaker 1: went right down the field and scored a touchdown. Yep,
31:32
Speaker 1: and they did, and they came back and they really
31:33
Speaker 1: controlled really the last three quarters of that game by
31:37
Speaker 1: and large, absolutely true. Doing that against Vanderbilt and a
31:42
Speaker 1: couple of young safeties, one of whom was a freshman,
31:45
Speaker 1: and doing that, yes, on the road, but on the
31:48
Speaker 1: road just down the road in Nashville, and in a
31:51
Speaker 1: stadium with twenty nine thousand people in it because it's
31:53
Speaker 1: under construction, and two thirds of them are Tennessee fans. Like,
31:56
Speaker 1: that's a little different than having to do it against
32:00
Speaker 1: a team that's running Caleb Downs and lath and Ransom
32:02
Speaker 1: out there, and where you've got one hundred thousand people
32:05
Speaker 1: instead of thirty thousand people, and where I don't know
32:08
Speaker 1: how many Tennessee fans are going to be there. It's
32:10
Speaker 1: not going to be two thirds Tennessee fans. I can
32:12
Speaker 1: tell you that, so you know it's going to be
32:14
Speaker 1: a very different kind of animal and in a spot
32:16
Speaker 1: where he has not really had to play in a
32:20
Speaker 1: spot like that before. Yeah, I mean they went on
32:22
Speaker 1: the road to Georgia, so maybe that's the closest corolliary
32:25
Speaker 1: that you see on their schedule this year. But they
32:27
Speaker 1: lost that game by two touchdowns, and you know, so, yeah,
32:31
Speaker 1: Ohio State fans could potentially have a huge impact on
32:34
Speaker 1: the game, create a couple of fallse starts, make the
32:37
Speaker 1: communication difficult. That can make it hard for Tennessee to communicate,
32:42
Speaker 1: which can make it hard for Tennessee to run tempo,
32:44
Speaker 1: which is what Tennessee wants to do. That was another
32:46
Speaker 1: thing the offensive coordinator got asked about third down. Are
32:49
Speaker 1: you trying to hustle up to the line and you know,
32:52
Speaker 1: run a play before the crowd can get too loud
32:55
Speaker 1: or you know, do you have to make sure you've
32:58
Speaker 1: got the play call right and you guys are community
33:00
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and he said, like, you got to
33:01
Speaker 1: get it right so the crowd can get loud, The
33:04
Speaker 1: crowd can impact that communication. All that kind of stuff.
33:08
Speaker 1: Does the how badly does the Ohio State crowd want
33:10
Speaker 1: Ohio State to win on Saturday is kind of a question.
33:13
Speaker 1: Will depends only ask Yeah, ask Facebook, I don't think
33:17
Speaker 1: please yes, thank you, thank you Jonestown for your comments.
33:22
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk a little bit about Ryan Day's comments
33:24
Speaker 1: about Nico Imliava and then also Dylan Samson. We'll start
33:27
Speaker 1: with Iamaliava. You know, young quarterbacks, someone that Ryan Day
33:30
Speaker 1: knows because Iamaliava camped at Ohio State and probably twenty
33:33
Speaker 1: twenty one, I think we were there and watched him,
33:37
Speaker 1: watch him throw for Ryan Day and probably should have
33:40
Speaker 1: known where he was headed because he had on a
33:41
Speaker 1: pair of shorts that were like checkerboard shorts. It wasn't
33:45
Speaker 1: orange and white checkerboards, but it was like when he
33:48
Speaker 1: went to went to Tennessee. I was like, yeah, okay,
33:50
Speaker 1: I can see I can see how this is probably
33:51
Speaker 1: a good fit. But you know, he was someone who
33:53
Speaker 1: was physically impressive, even as what would that have been
33:57
Speaker 1: going between his sophomore and junior years of high school
33:59
Speaker 1: and a big, tall kid, fast, strong arm. You know,
34:06
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like there. What did Ryan Day
34:08
Speaker 1: have to say about Nicom?
34:11
Speaker 2: He mentioned the strong arm and he needs that strong
34:13
Speaker 2: arm because of the the wide receiver wide receiver splits
34:16
Speaker 2: that we've talked about where they're lined out to the
34:18
Speaker 2: numbers and beyond the numbers, and if you're going to
34:20
Speaker 2: throw the ball out there, you've got to get it
34:22
Speaker 2: out there quickly. And he can do that. And he's athletic,
34:26
Speaker 2: he can evade a rush, and then he looks to
34:30
Speaker 2: just continue to make plays. And that's actually, actually, that's
34:33
Speaker 2: exactly what Brian Day said. He looks to make plays.
34:35
Speaker 2: He said, he makes good decisions, and that's a coach
34:38
Speaker 2: that is not going to throw somebody under a bus
34:39
Speaker 2: from making poor decisions. The decisions are not always great
34:43
Speaker 2: for Nico im Aliava, but he's when he gets outside
34:48
Speaker 2: the pocket, he's going to look to throw the throw
34:50
Speaker 2: the ball, and sometimes that means somebody breaks open. Sometimes
34:53
Speaker 2: that means he's throwing back over the middle, and maybe
34:56
Speaker 2: maybe he shouldn't. So you know, it's it's a concertain
35:00
Speaker 2: when he gets out of the pocket. But I think
35:02
Speaker 2: we've said it all week, it's a concern for everybody.
35:05
Speaker 2: But he has a tremendous arm and it's quick, it's strong,
35:11
Speaker 2: it can go. He can make whatever throw you need
35:13
Speaker 2: in this offense, and they're all over the place. Receivers
35:16
Speaker 2: and Paul catchers are all over the place, and wherever
35:19
Speaker 2: they are, he can get it to them. It's just
35:22
Speaker 2: sometimes maybe it's a little late, or it's a little inaccurate,
35:26
Speaker 2: or maybe he's off platform and sends the ball a
35:29
Speaker 2: little high, but he's going to try to get it there.
35:31
Speaker 2: And that's the defense has to be ready for that,
35:34
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and be ready for a throw to
35:37
Speaker 2: be made. And then also if you have an opportunity
35:40
Speaker 2: to bring him down in the backfield, you have to
35:42
Speaker 2: do it. And if you don't, then get ready to
35:45
Speaker 2: go through another series of three to fourteen downs because
35:49
Speaker 2: you missed that one tackle on third down.
35:52
Speaker 1: And another guy who that's true of is Dylan Samson.
35:55
Speaker 1: Dylan Samson, the running back led the SEC in rushing
35:58
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty six. He's fourteen hundred and eighty
36:01
Speaker 1: five yards led the SEC, twenty two touchdowns led the SEC,
36:05
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five plays from scrimmage led the SEC,
36:08
Speaker 1: is twenty two rushing touchdowns, led all touchdowns from scrimmage
36:13
Speaker 1: in the SEC. I mean he is really really a dynamic,
36:16
Speaker 1: dynamic runner and just even he does the boring stuff. Well,
36:20
Speaker 1: you know, he's not Reggie Bush in the open field,
36:24
Speaker 1: but he does all that. You know, It's like when
36:26
Speaker 1: coaches get all excited talking about how well wide receiver
36:28
Speaker 1: blocks the Tennessee coaches get excited talking about Dylan Sampson
36:32
Speaker 1: and how well if a play is blocked for three,
36:36
Speaker 1: he's going to turn it into four or five. And
36:39
Speaker 1: that's not exciting. That's not going to show up on
36:42
Speaker 1: college football final unless it's a fourth and one or
36:44
Speaker 1: you're at the two yard line or something like that.
36:46
Speaker 1: But he does all the little stuff that if Ohio
36:51
Speaker 1: State isn't really really disciplined and really really good with
36:56
Speaker 1: their tackling and getting him to the ground and not
36:58
Speaker 1: letting him get those extra couple of yards, that's the
37:00
Speaker 1: stuff that can add up over the course of the day.
37:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said it in one of our rewatch
37:05
Speaker 2: shows that Dylan Sampson is a daily driver, but he's
37:09
Speaker 2: never lost a race at a green light. Like he's
37:12
Speaker 2: just he just looks like your normal everyday car, but
37:16
Speaker 2: he's got something special under the hood, and he's he's patient,
37:20
Speaker 2: he's strong, and then once he sees the crease, he
37:23
Speaker 2: can get to it and then he can get past
37:25
Speaker 2: the second level and then you're chasing him. But you
37:29
Speaker 2: don't see him tackled in the backfield at all. We
37:33
Speaker 2: watched four games and there were two tackles for a
37:35
Speaker 2: loss and his probably one hundred attempts, and they were
37:40
Speaker 2: like one yard lost here and one yard lost there.
37:42
Speaker 2: He gets to the line of scrimmage, he falls forward,
37:45
Speaker 2: he gets just it's one of those things where he
37:49
Speaker 2: turns two yards into four, he turns four to six,
37:52
Speaker 2: kind of what Ryan Days said. He needs the Ohio
37:54
Speaker 2: State running backs to do. That's what Dylan Sampson does,
37:56
Speaker 2: and and Tennessee is perfectly fine getting four or five
38:00
Speaker 2: yards a crack because eventually it's four or five yards
38:04
Speaker 2: in the first quarter, it's five or six in the
38:06
Speaker 2: second quarter, it's six or seven in the third quarter.
38:09
Speaker 2: Because of the pace, defenses get tired. Dylan Sampson just
38:13
Speaker 2: gets ramped up even more. And you know, I keep
38:18
Speaker 2: commenting that it's a very Michigan like approach to running
38:22
Speaker 2: the ball. They will be patient with it, and they
38:25
Speaker 2: have more snaps in the game than Michigan, so they're
38:27
Speaker 2: going to run the ball on average more than Michigan.
38:30
Speaker 2: In terms of attempts because they they hurry up and
38:33
Speaker 2: they run it again, and they hurry up and they
38:35
Speaker 2: run it again. And sometimes when they're not running it,
38:37
Speaker 2: it's an RPO and the only reason they're not running
38:39
Speaker 2: it is because there's too many people in the box
38:41
Speaker 2: and they're throwing to a light secondary instead. So they
38:47
Speaker 2: really use Dylan Samson well and what they do, and
38:50
Speaker 2: he creates issues for the fasting game, it creates issues
38:53
Speaker 2: for the running game, and he makes makes Nico Iamali
38:56
Speaker 2: have a really good quarterback because he freezes up by
39:01
Speaker 2: bringing in the defense to then face just one on
39:04
Speaker 2: ones in the secondary.
39:06
Speaker 1: Yep, definitely definitely something to watch. On Saturday night, we
39:10
Speaker 1: got to get a super chat in from our buddy
39:11
Speaker 1: Omar Austin. Which team has the edge in special teams
39:14
Speaker 1: and do you think this super chat will make it
39:16
Speaker 1: on air or be cut due to crappy audience. We
39:19
Speaker 1: did have your super chat on the air last night.
39:21
Speaker 1: If you're wondering why did why didn't they go to
39:23
Speaker 1: the press conference like normal, because we had done two
39:26
Speaker 1: days were the press conference this week already, but because
39:29
Speaker 1: of the weird setup and getting bumped out of the
39:31
Speaker 1: facility early yesterday. Because of the different schedules, we ended
39:35
Speaker 1: up having to do one show outside on the you know,
39:39
Speaker 1: outside the building and on the Wi Fi, which worked
39:42
Speaker 1: for a while, and then they, I don't know turned
39:44
Speaker 1: down the Wi Fi.
39:44
Speaker 2: Tony.
39:45
Speaker 1: Tony said, like an AM radio powering down at sunset,
39:48
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden we didn't have good
39:50
Speaker 1: WiFi anymore. So decided to control our circumstances today so
39:54
Speaker 1: that we didn't have that same issue. So apologize apologies
39:57
Speaker 1: for the end of last night's show. So, Tony, which
40:00
Speaker 1: team has the edge in special Teams?
40:03
Speaker 2: Well, I will just say the audio version of that.
40:05
Speaker 2: I think the show itself was about an hour. I
40:08
Speaker 2: trimmed the audio version to about thirty six minutes or
40:10
Speaker 2: so because of this sound and the Wi Fi. So again,
40:15
Speaker 2: apologies for that. That's not our fault, plame Ohio State.
40:18
Speaker 2: Plenty of people in the chat willing to do that.
40:20
Speaker 2: So which team has the edge in special Teams? Well,
40:23
Speaker 2: I'd say one. The team that knows who their kicker
40:28
Speaker 2: is and is definitely sure who their kicker is has
40:30
Speaker 2: an advantage there tend to see returns punts. Well, Ohio
40:34
Speaker 2: State is doing better at returning punts. Tennessee has given
40:37
Speaker 2: up a one hundred yard kickoff return this in the
40:41
Speaker 2: last six weeks or so the last four weeks. Again,
40:44
Speaker 2: that does not apply to Ohio State because they don't
40:46
Speaker 2: return kicks well. But overall, I would probably say what
40:52
Speaker 2: game as Ohio State had an advantage in special teams
40:54
Speaker 2: this year because they haven't had many, and I wouldn't
40:56
Speaker 2: assume that it would start in this one. When you know,
40:58
Speaker 2: I think Tennessee does not have great special teams that
41:02
Speaker 2: we've seen. It's like, it's not been like I've been wowed.
41:05
Speaker 2: We you know, their kicker went through a stretch of
41:07
Speaker 2: being like one one for four and went oh for
41:09
Speaker 2: three in a game. He's gone I think seven for
41:11
Speaker 2: seven in his last three or four games. But yeah,
41:16
Speaker 2: I'd still give Tennessee the edge.
41:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. Max Gilbert is the guy who does the placements,
41:20
Speaker 1: the pats and the field goals. He hit from fifty
41:23
Speaker 1: against Vanderbilt. Now, he hit the crossbar and bounced it in,
41:27
Speaker 1: but he hit from fifty against Vanderbilt. Josh Churbyville is
41:30
Speaker 1: the guy who does their kickoffs. He has put something
41:35
Speaker 1: like seventy of eighty five kickoffs out the back of
41:39
Speaker 1: the end zone or just been touched back. So he
41:42
Speaker 1: you know he has he has a great leg. The
41:44
Speaker 1: punters whatever, the punters. The punter is unremarkable in pretty
41:47
Speaker 1: much every way. Boo shoot, what's his name? Boo the backup,
41:52
Speaker 1: then the starr Boo Carter, he's their punt returner. He
41:57
Speaker 1: is quick, he is quick in the punt game. Joe
42:00
Speaker 1: McGuire's gonna have to hang those punts up there, and
42:02
Speaker 1: the covered teams can have to do a good job there.
42:04
Speaker 1: As you said, they gave up one hundred yard kickoff
42:06
Speaker 1: return against Vanderbilt, but they really had not given up
42:09
Speaker 1: any substantial kickoff returns at all all season up until
42:13
Speaker 1: that moment. So you wonder if they maybe got lulled
42:15
Speaker 1: to sleep a little bit and then Andy runs back
42:18
Speaker 1: the opening kickoff one hundred yards. Well, I'm guessing they
42:20
Speaker 1: will not be lulled to sleep now, so that will
42:23
Speaker 1: be a uh, that will probably be a little bit
42:27
Speaker 1: not relevant. Drowsy Dragon, We're gonna kind of hit some
42:31
Speaker 1: questions here before we wrap up. We'll do this a
42:34
Speaker 1: little bit speed speed round style. Drowsy Dragon, will Larry
42:38
Speaker 1: Johnson finally rotate the defensive line in this game and
42:41
Speaker 1: Knowles make him do it.
42:43
Speaker 2: Well, Jim Knowles can try, but as he said yesterday,
42:46
Speaker 2: like that's something to the assistant coaches. But again, you've
42:50
Speaker 2: got that's part of the game plan. It has to
42:51
Speaker 2: be in this game. If you don't rotate, then you
42:54
Speaker 2: know you're asking to be beaten in the fourth quarter.
42:57
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jim Knowles would need to speak up on
42:59
Speaker 2: that if if it gets to that. But I will
43:02
Speaker 2: also point out Tom they did very little rotation fifty
43:06
Speaker 2: nine plays against Michigan and the starters played fifty three
43:09
Speaker 2: of those, and yet it was Jack Sawyer making an
43:12
Speaker 2: interception late in that game when you know Kayden Curry
43:17
Speaker 2: or Kenyatta Jackson likely wouldn't have done that. So I
43:20
Speaker 2: think that is one of the reasons. That is a
43:22
Speaker 2: main reason why you see those guys play so much.
43:25
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna do that, just be prepared for
43:27
Speaker 2: what will happen in the fourth quarter when you can't
43:31
Speaker 2: get off the field.
43:33
Speaker 1: Omar Austin super chat says, so you don't like me, Tony, gotcha?
43:37
Speaker 1: And do you you put this in the chat? So
43:41
Speaker 1: if you want to tell the story, you can tell
43:42
Speaker 1: the story. He says, Omar, you lie to me about
43:44
Speaker 1: foods at dive bars, and I'm going to hold a grudge.
43:47
Speaker 2: I mean, Omar's like, hey, I know this place. I
43:49
Speaker 2: don't even know if it was Western Villa or Gahanna somewhere.
43:51
Speaker 2: It is like Ghannah, Yeah, yeah, about you know this
43:54
Speaker 2: great this great sandwich that they've got. I think about
43:57
Speaker 2: it all the time. I always get it when I
43:59
Speaker 2: get there. So we all like, all right, I'm looking
44:01
Speaker 2: forward to this sandwich. And then Omer it's like, hey
44:03
Speaker 2: see you still have the sandwich and they're like, no,
44:05
Speaker 2: we got rid of that a long time ago. And
44:07
Speaker 2: so then we just said really good pizza. But again,
44:11
Speaker 2: like you're gonna build up that languich. Yeah it was
44:14
Speaker 2: good pizza, but you know, and and the company, most
44:17
Speaker 2: of the company was great. But you build up a
44:20
Speaker 2: sandwich like this and then we don't get in and
44:22
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm gonna remember this guy, and not in
44:26
Speaker 2: a good way.
44:28
Speaker 1: He says, eating good on the next visit Burger King
44:30
Speaker 1: for everyone. See this is when Kevin. Kevin's not here.
44:32
Speaker 1: Kevin's not here, so let's I'm fine with Burger King.
44:35
Speaker 1: That's fine.
44:36
Speaker 2: It's not.
44:36
Speaker 1: It's not my first choice, but if Kevin's there, it
44:38
Speaker 1: might be my first choice. It is my only choice,
44:41
Speaker 1: all right, So let's go back. We got a couple
44:44
Speaker 1: a couple more we need to get to, actually a
44:46
Speaker 1: bunch more. We need to get to how often will
44:49
Speaker 1: they run Will Howard? He might be the best run
44:51
Speaker 1: option in short yarded situations. He I think everyone sort
44:56
Speaker 1: of recognizes that running Will Howard is going to be important.
45:00
Speaker 1: I think that's something that you and I have certainly
45:02
Speaker 1: talked about. I talked about it, took to Ross and
45:05
Speaker 1: Ross brought it up Ross Fulton Marx as a nose guy,
45:08
Speaker 1: I brought He brought it up on a show earlier
45:09
Speaker 1: in the week. I feel like we heard, we've heard
45:12
Speaker 1: the coaching staff kind of talk about it a little
45:14
Speaker 1: bit indirectly. It just and we've seen it. We've seen
45:17
Speaker 1: Tennessee sometimes struggle to handle the quarterback run and even
45:22
Speaker 1: just the threat of the quarterback run, and it feels
45:25
Speaker 1: like that's something where one of the things that they
45:28
Speaker 1: have really liked about Will Howard coming in this year
45:31
Speaker 1: is he gives him the threat of the quarterback run
45:33
Speaker 1: and he has not been ripping off you know, this
45:36
Speaker 1: is not nineteen ninety seven Michael Vick or anything like that.
45:40
Speaker 1: But he doesn't have to be that. He can be
45:42
Speaker 1: if he does what he does did against Penn State
45:45
Speaker 1: in the closing crive against Penn State where it's third
45:49
Speaker 1: and three, keep it, run outside the tackle and in
45:53
Speaker 1: that case slid for a first slid. He probably could
45:56
Speaker 1: have run seventy yards on that one if if it
45:59
Speaker 1: was a different spot in the game. But and he
46:01
Speaker 1: had one where he took a head of keeper and
46:04
Speaker 1: got the ball knocked out about six inches from the
46:06
Speaker 1: goal line that would would have cost would have been
46:10
Speaker 1: a touchdown for Ohiosate. That really would have kind of
46:12
Speaker 1: put that game away early. The threat is there. We've
46:16
Speaker 1: seen even non running ohios tak quarterbacks have a real
46:19
Speaker 1: impact in situations like that. I go back to the
46:21
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season and Dwayne Haskins, who never ran and
46:24
Speaker 1: didn't really want to run, and they didn't want to
46:25
Speaker 1: run him, and they were playing TCU down in Jerry
46:29
Speaker 1: World earlier in the season, and he had always handed
46:32
Speaker 1: off and always handed off, and always handed off and
46:34
Speaker 1: always handed off, and then there was one play there
46:36
Speaker 1: down in the goal line. I don't know, the three
46:38
Speaker 1: yard lines something like that, third fourth quarter, you know,
46:41
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of put the game away, and
46:45
Speaker 1: he keeps it and just walks in because every all
46:48
Speaker 1: eleven guys are on the defense are going, well the
46:50
Speaker 1: running back has it, and no, no, the running back
46:53
Speaker 1: did not have it. So you've seen the quarterback run
46:55
Speaker 1: be effective even with guys who are not prime. Michael
46:59
Speaker 1: Vick and Will Howard is a lot closer to that
47:02
Speaker 1: than Dwayne Haskins was.
47:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I will just say the game that he
47:06
Speaker 2: had the most carries this year was Penn State. He
47:08
Speaker 2: was twelve of twenty four, but three of those were
47:10
Speaker 2: sacks for fifteen yards. So he was nine for thirty nine,
47:14
Speaker 2: which is by far the best that he's been. The
47:17
Speaker 2: most he's rushed for is twenty eight yards against Iowa,
47:20
Speaker 2: but and ten carries, and I'm not I'm not sure
47:23
Speaker 2: how much of that was sacks. But you know, he
47:26
Speaker 2: didn't run the ball much against Michigan, got hit and hurt,
47:29
Speaker 2: and probably they didn't want to do anything after that.
47:32
Speaker 2: Indiana they didn't need to. And I think in this one,
47:36
Speaker 2: if he only has four carries and this one, normally
47:38
Speaker 2: I'd say that's a win just because one that's probably
47:41
Speaker 2: not many sacks, and two that's more of a thing
47:45
Speaker 2: that we we do it because we need to, not
47:47
Speaker 2: because we want to. In this one, I think they
47:50
Speaker 2: will need to. And if he's around nine for thirty
47:54
Speaker 2: nine with you know, sack of Justin or whatever in
47:57
Speaker 2: this one, that would not shock me at all, because
47:59
Speaker 2: I think I think they need him to run to
48:02
Speaker 2: help the other guys run.
48:05
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48:11
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48:14
Speaker 2: I think you must. And you just called everybody dogs Tom.
48:17
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I just I just read was written.
48:20
Speaker 1: Could have been Mett Metz, which you know. Also, I
48:23
Speaker 1: mean you talk about saying calling people nice things, yeah,
48:26
Speaker 1: doctor Pepper not dit Coke Once was lost says I
48:32
Speaker 1: knew two offensive line injuries is tough. But how can
48:34
Speaker 1: we have absolutely nobody any good backing up these the
48:37
Speaker 1: point we don't even know what to do. And I
48:40
Speaker 1: think there's a couple pieces of that number one. If
48:42
Speaker 1: you you know, before the season we talked about who
48:45
Speaker 1: is the one guy that this team absolutely positively cannot
48:47
Speaker 1: afford to lose, and we landed on Josh Simmons. And
48:51
Speaker 1: even more so than Will Howard or Caleb Downs or
48:53
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, Josh Simmons was the guy. And then, of
48:56
Speaker 1: course Josh Shimmons goes down the first week, the second
48:59
Speaker 1: week of October, and that's you know, that has been
49:03
Speaker 1: a defining part of the season. And tackles are not
49:07
Speaker 1: do not grow on trees. And you see that across
49:11
Speaker 1: the sport everyone is looking for tackles every time a
49:14
Speaker 1: tackle goes into the portal. It's like, well, Alabama and
49:17
Speaker 1: Georgia and Ohio State and Michigan and Penn State and
49:21
Speaker 1: like every Texas everyone's in on all the tackles because
49:23
Speaker 1: everyone needs tackles. They just there are not that many
49:26
Speaker 1: good ones. And then they lost literally the Remington Award
49:29
Speaker 1: winner for the best center in the country. Those are
49:31
Speaker 1: guess what, there's only one of those every year too,
49:33
Speaker 1: And so now you lost two guys who are pretty irreplaceable.
49:35
Speaker 1: Now that said, they haven't taken enough guys in multiple
49:40
Speaker 1: recruiting classes in a row. You can't have classes where
49:43
Speaker 1: you have three offensive linemen. You certainly can't have multiple
49:46
Speaker 1: classes in a row where you have three offensive linemen.
49:49
Speaker 1: This is very obvious. This is something that has been
49:52
Speaker 1: something that people have talked about for years, and you
49:55
Speaker 1: know this is also so this is this is on
49:58
Speaker 1: the current staff and some of this is the fickle
50:00
Speaker 1: finger of fate, as we've touched on. Now, there's also
50:04
Speaker 1: this is the very end of the Gregstaguara era where
50:08
Speaker 1: those guys that he was recruiting his last seasons at
50:11
Speaker 1: Ohio State, where there were some real terrible in state misses,
50:16
Speaker 1: those guys would be seniors on this team. And so
50:18
Speaker 1: you add Blake Miller to this team, well, then guess
50:21
Speaker 1: what your offensive line looks a little different. There's really
50:23
Speaker 1: no reason to have missed on him. So there's a
50:27
Speaker 1: bunch of different things that have kind of factored in there.
50:29
Speaker 1: And they had done what they can to go into
50:31
Speaker 1: the portal and bring guys in, and Simmons and McLaughlan
50:34
Speaker 1: were both transfer guys and they hit on both of those.
50:37
Speaker 1: So you know, the talent evaluation is there, the nil
50:41
Speaker 1: effort is there, but you know you can't have you
50:46
Speaker 1: either need to not have the two guys who you
50:49
Speaker 1: can't afford to get hurt, get hurt, or you need
50:52
Speaker 1: to have much more depth than your offensive line recruiting.
50:55
Speaker 1: It's kind of been a perfect storm for Ohio State
50:59
Speaker 1: on the offensive line.
51:00
Speaker 2: Even even this year, this one. If they had they
51:03
Speaker 2: had a left tackle, a backup tackle, a third tackle
51:06
Speaker 2: that they trusted, you wouldn't have to move Downovan Jackson.
51:09
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson would be at left guard and you wouldn't
51:11
Speaker 2: have this this three person rotation for two spots. You
51:14
Speaker 2: just have to figure out which of these three guards
51:16
Speaker 2: do we want at right guard?
51:18
Speaker 1: And or if McLaughlin or if Seth McLaughlin hadn't gotten hurt,
51:24
Speaker 1: then Carson Hinsman is playing guard. And Carson Hinsman did
51:26
Speaker 1: a great job at guard in the limited time that
51:28
Speaker 1: you saw.
51:29
Speaker 2: I think we've seen they would have been able to
51:31
Speaker 2: overcome one of these. You're trying to overcome two of these.
51:33
Speaker 2: I don't know that any team can do that and
51:36
Speaker 2: not have a significant drop off when you're talking about
51:39
Speaker 2: two of the best players at their positions. One a
51:42
Speaker 2: consensus All American one like a second team All Big
51:46
Speaker 2: Ten selection after playing in just like six games or whatever.
51:51
Speaker 1: Market X says Tennessee is basically Penn State, but with
51:53
Speaker 1: no James Franklin. I think the Bucks win close. We
51:56
Speaker 1: got a question earlier in the week about which Big
51:59
Speaker 1: Ten team or which Ohio State opponent reminded us most
52:01
Speaker 1: of Tennessee, and I said, I said Penn State. And
52:05
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the skill stuff. The running
52:08
Speaker 1: backs really good, quarterback good, very talented, and we're gonna
52:13
Speaker 1: we're going to get into the quarterback comparison in just
52:17
Speaker 1: a second, so I'm gonna leave that alone. Offensive line
52:21
Speaker 1: good but not amazing, defensive line pretty good. Secondary, Okay,
52:26
Speaker 1: you kind of got some good pieces, but overall, and
52:31
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the closest comparison. And I'm sure
52:34
Speaker 1: they are Tennessee fans who are doing how dare you
52:36
Speaker 1: compare us to Penn State's ranked ahead of both Ohio
52:38
Speaker 1: State and Tennessee, and so like, this is not this
52:41
Speaker 1: is not a you know, slap at Tennessee. This is
52:46
Speaker 1: I'm comparing you to a team that's what fourth in
52:48
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff rankings and sixth in the bracket.
52:51
Speaker 1: Like this is you know, this is this is me saying, yeah,
52:54
Speaker 1: you're similar to this team that is also pretty similar
52:56
Speaker 1: in talent to where Tennessee is and so yeah, I
53:01
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's a reasonable Uh. You know,
53:04
Speaker 1: you're a comparison and Josh Hipel has been very conservative
53:09
Speaker 1: at times during the games we've watched in terms of
53:11
Speaker 1: fourth down decision making, but he hasn't done any just
53:14
Speaker 1: absolute lunacy like you see out of James Franklin where
53:17
Speaker 1: it's just like he he loses object permanence at certain
53:21
Speaker 1: times during during key clock management and timeout usage situation.
53:25
Speaker 1: So yeah, that that certainly is one area. Now, Tony,
53:28
Speaker 1: I did want to get to this one from Drowsey Dragon.
53:30
Speaker 1: Who is better Nico iam Aliava or Drew Aller. I
53:34
Speaker 1: have an answer, but I would like to hear your
53:36
Speaker 1: answer first.
53:37
Speaker 2: I think if you're a defense you're more concerned about
53:39
Speaker 2: Nico im Aaliava than Drew Aller. I think you know
53:42
Speaker 2: what Drew Aller is and you know how to contend
53:45
Speaker 2: with them, and sometimes he's going to attack you, sometimes
53:47
Speaker 2: he's not. Nikolai iam Aliava is always going to attack
53:51
Speaker 2: and you may be the beneficiary of a bat throw,
53:54
Speaker 2: but you know you always have to be on guard
53:56
Speaker 2: and he can create plays after the snap and escape.
53:59
Speaker 2: So to me, like I think the majority of defensive
54:02
Speaker 2: coordinators would rather face Drew Aller knowing that he's a veteran,
54:06
Speaker 2: he's seen a lot, but you've also seen a lot
54:08
Speaker 2: of him. You know where he goes, you know what
54:10
Speaker 2: his tendencies are, you know what he will do, what
54:13
Speaker 2: he won't do. With Nicol, he's a wild card. And
54:16
Speaker 2: as we know, Tom know what wild cards are out well.
54:20
Speaker 1: And it feels like Drew Aller. If Dureller has a
54:23
Speaker 1: bad game, it's a B minus, and if Drew Aller
54:24
Speaker 1: has a good game, it's a B plus. Like I
54:26
Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever seen Drew Aller have an
54:28
Speaker 1: A plus game ever. With Nico, I think if he
54:33
Speaker 1: has a bad game, it's a C minus and he
54:35
Speaker 1: can lose you the game with a couple bad throws
54:37
Speaker 1: or a couple bad decisions where he's trying to scramble
54:39
Speaker 1: and do too much and he doesn't have great ball
54:41
Speaker 1: security and fumbles it. But he also has this ability
54:46
Speaker 1: to extend plays, and if he extends the play, he
54:49
Speaker 1: has this incredible arm to shoot the ball downfield, and
54:52
Speaker 1: he can he can make throws at Drealer can't make.
54:54
Speaker 1: Now you know Drealer's decision making is probably a little
54:57
Speaker 1: more consistent. And you know, this is this is the
55:00
Speaker 1: you know, do you want to marry the boring guy
55:02
Speaker 1: who has a nine to five job or do you
55:04
Speaker 1: want to marry the guy who has drives a motorcycle
55:07
Speaker 1: and like, look, maybe he's going to crash his motorcycle.
55:09
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he also it's pretty cool on
55:12
Speaker 1: the motorcycle. So you know, are you going to make
55:16
Speaker 1: the safe decision or are you going to make the
55:18
Speaker 1: you know, high ceiling low floor decision. If I'm picking,
55:21
Speaker 1: if I'm starting a team, I'm starting with Nico because
55:24
Speaker 1: he also is a couple of years younger than Aler,
55:27
Speaker 1: at least one year younger than Aller, maybe maybe two,
55:30
Speaker 1: and so he is there's much more room for continued
55:35
Speaker 1: growth with Aler. At this point, Aler kind of is
55:37
Speaker 1: what he is. He might get a little better next
55:39
Speaker 1: year with another year of experience coming back, but Nico
55:42
Speaker 1: could be I mean, Nico could be a Heisman Trophy winner.
55:46
Speaker 1: I don't think Durreller is winning the Heisman Trophy at
55:48
Speaker 1: Penn State now.
55:49
Speaker 2: And you know, his two worst games were against Ohio
55:51
Speaker 2: State and Oregon, which is that's fine, that's to be expected.
55:54
Speaker 2: You're playing the two best best defenses. But you know,
55:58
Speaker 2: he completed sixty percent of his passes against Ohio State,
56:01
Speaker 2: zero touchdowns, one interception. That sixty percent was the worst
56:03
Speaker 2: of the season until he completed twenty of thirty nine
56:07
Speaker 2: against Oregon and net shootout through three touchdowns, two interceptions.
56:12
Speaker 2: Just you know, he's he's good against some tings and
56:14
Speaker 2: even through three interceptions against USC. So you know, I
56:18
Speaker 2: just if I don't know how many coaches other than
56:22
Speaker 2: maybe the risk of first coach would be like, yeah,
56:24
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Drew Aller, like the would Jim Tressel
56:27
Speaker 2: would rather have Drew Aller or Nico Iamaliava. But if
56:30
Speaker 2: we also saw he took he chose he benched Todd
56:33
Speaker 2: Beckman for tell.
56:34
Speaker 1: Prior, Yeah, exactly. And and Imaliava is he's better throwing
56:41
Speaker 1: mechanics than Thrill prior for sure. But he you know,
56:43
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of the same thing where he can
56:45
Speaker 1: do stuff that you don't normally see other people be
56:49
Speaker 1: able to do. And Jim Nole's talking about the fact
56:51
Speaker 1: that he's faster than he looks on film, and you know,
56:54
Speaker 1: he's kind of got that long he's the long striding guy,
56:56
Speaker 1: or she just looks like he's kind of gliding and
56:58
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, he's thirty five yards downfield,
57:00
Speaker 1: Like how did that happen? What? How? So, Yeah, he's
57:03
Speaker 1: he's going to be. It feels like he's going to
57:06
Speaker 1: win the game for one team or another on Saturday,
57:09
Speaker 1: Like it's going to be either he makes the one
57:11
Speaker 1: amazing play or he makes the one. Oh no, you know,
57:14
Speaker 1: the the John o'corn play from the twenty seventeen Michigan
57:19
Speaker 1: Amazon Dodjah, Oh no, why you could see We've seen
57:25
Speaker 1: that too out of him. So I think he could
57:29
Speaker 1: be the hero, he could be the goat. I don't
57:30
Speaker 1: think he's going to be boring. I don't know. I
57:32
Speaker 1: don't know what he's going to do, but it's going
57:34
Speaker 1: to be interesting. Next one from Terry Slusser, is Dylan
57:37
Speaker 1: Samson better than Iowa's running back Caleb Johnson.
57:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think those are interesting comparisons. I think Caleb
57:44
Speaker 2: Johnson is probably more powerful. I think they're very similar
57:49
Speaker 2: in that neither is this, Neither is JK. Dobbins in
57:52
Speaker 2: terms of this jump cutting. They're just they very their
57:57
Speaker 2: matter of fact, running backs, and they get their yards
58:00
Speaker 2: to get like the bulk of the yards that they
58:03
Speaker 2: are they that are possible, they will get and they
58:06
Speaker 2: won't miss things, and they will just continue to keep
58:10
Speaker 2: you up on schedule, on course. So I think they're
58:14
Speaker 2: very similar. I don't know that I prefer one or
58:17
Speaker 2: the other. What ask again after the game? Now, Ohio
58:21
Speaker 2: State did pretty well against Caleb Johnson. Then he got
58:23
Speaker 2: a long one towards the en the end of that
58:25
Speaker 2: game and maybe hit a hundred or or was about
58:28
Speaker 2: to hit a hundred. But like, if Dylan Samson is
58:32
Speaker 2: twenty two of seventy in this game, then you got
58:33
Speaker 2: to feel pretty good about Ohio States chances. But we've
58:36
Speaker 2: also seen him rush for like one hundred and thirty
58:38
Speaker 2: yards and still lose. So it's it's almost the more
58:44
Speaker 2: important numbers how many carries he has than how many yards,
58:48
Speaker 2: because the carries will tell you who is controlling the game.
58:51
Speaker 2: The yards just tell you what happened when he had
58:53
Speaker 2: the ball.
58:56
Speaker 1: I want to sort of skip the line here with
58:57
Speaker 1: this one from Tim. First time I've ever listened to
58:59
Speaker 1: you guys, and hear no confidence in your voices at all,
59:02
Speaker 1: we're not We're not like on the team. We're just
59:06
Speaker 1: telling you here's what the matchup is. We've watched every
59:08
Speaker 1: Ohio State game, every play of every Ohio State game.
59:11
Speaker 1: We've watched all of Tennessee's for of Tennessee's most important
59:15
Speaker 1: games this year, and I think broadly we're both expecting
59:18
Speaker 1: a relatively close game. I don't, you know, if you
59:21
Speaker 1: want to, if you want people to stand up on
59:23
Speaker 1: the table and you know, pound the desk and tell
59:26
Speaker 1: you that you know oh Ohio State by forty, like, yeah,
59:30
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe, but that's not a lot of
59:33
Speaker 1: the stuff that's sort of Yeah, a lot of the
59:35
Speaker 1: stuff that's done like that is just performative and you
59:38
Speaker 1: should probably stop falling for it because it doesn't ever
59:41
Speaker 1: bear any reality, any relationship to reality. So, you know,
59:46
Speaker 1: we generally are fairly closely, you know, fairly close together
59:51
Speaker 1: on what our score predictions are, and outside of a
59:54
Speaker 1: few exceptions, have been pretty close to the final scores
59:58
Speaker 1: on these games. We have a decent sense for what
1:00:00
Speaker 1: this is going to be. You know, what these games
1:00:02
Speaker 1: are going to be, and so we're just telling you
1:00:05
Speaker 1: what we're sort of seeing, and you know, Robert says
1:00:07
Speaker 1: this is seeming more and more like it's going to
1:00:09
Speaker 1: be a defensive game if the Buckeyes are going to win,
1:00:10
Speaker 1: just based on that interview. In Day's response to the
1:00:12
Speaker 1: questions about the offensive line, I don't know that I
1:00:16
Speaker 1: necessarily agree with that. I think that I think if
1:00:20
Speaker 1: the game gets to thirty points, I think there's absolutely
1:00:23
Speaker 1: a way. Ohio State is the one that, you know,
1:00:25
Speaker 1: I think the matchup of Ohio States wide receivers and
1:00:28
Speaker 1: Tennessee's secondary is maybe the single biggest question mark on
1:00:35
Speaker 1: the Tennessee side of things for me, you know, outside
1:00:38
Speaker 1: of ten at least on that side of the ball,
1:00:40
Speaker 1: Tennessee's tackles versus Ohio State's edge rushers is probably the
1:00:43
Speaker 1: biggest question on the other side of the ball. So
1:00:46
Speaker 1: you know, if I mean, can you not see Will
1:00:50
Speaker 1: Howard throwing four touchdown passes on Saturday, I'm not thinking
1:00:53
Speaker 1: that's what it's going to be. I'm not going to
1:00:55
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not predicting Ohio State to score thirty points,
1:00:57
Speaker 1: but I think Ohio State could score thirty points, and
1:01:00
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I think a close, low scoring
1:01:04
Speaker 1: game probably favors Tennessee more than Ohio State because I
1:01:06
Speaker 1: think ten Ohio State probably has a talent advantage on
1:01:09
Speaker 1: the whole, and the more talented team the home team,
1:01:13
Speaker 1: the more points you score, then the less you get into. Well,
1:01:17
Speaker 1: it just comes down to one weird play.
1:01:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with if you they can protect Will
1:01:23
Speaker 2: Howard and allow Will Howard to throw, He's got guys
1:01:26
Speaker 2: that can make things happen. And whichever whichever receiver you're
1:01:32
Speaker 2: going to put your worst corner on, that's the guy
1:01:35
Speaker 2: that you can look at. And if you put your
1:01:37
Speaker 2: best corner on Jeremiah Smith, then there's no safety help
1:01:41
Speaker 2: look anyway. I mean Ohio State will have the advantage
1:01:44
Speaker 2: with that. But Will Howard has to have time to throw,
1:01:48
Speaker 2: and he has to be accurate when he's throwing the ball.
1:01:49
Speaker 2: He was not accurate against Michigan. He normally is again,
1:01:52
Speaker 2: and he was leading the nation in pass in completion
1:01:56
Speaker 2: percentage before the Michigan game. Now he's you know, well,
1:01:59
Speaker 2: I mean top three, so he's way down the list.
1:02:02
Speaker 2: He's been really, really accurate this year, and it's they've
1:02:05
Speaker 2: been able to do that with a bunch of intermediate
1:02:07
Speaker 2: stuff and short stuff. They have not gone deep much
1:02:09
Speaker 2: this year, and I think there's an opportunity for that
1:02:13
Speaker 2: as well as we've seen. But overall, yeah, we've seen
1:02:17
Speaker 2: the quarters, at least one quarter get picked on, and
1:02:21
Speaker 2: the safeties have had their issues with the tight ends.
1:02:24
Speaker 2: I don't know how much that comes into play for
1:02:25
Speaker 2: Ohio State in this one, but overall, Book Carter that
1:02:29
Speaker 2: we've talked about, he's their star, He's one of these
1:02:31
Speaker 2: their nickel. I don't think anybody against the Mecca Buco
1:02:36
Speaker 2: or anybody against whoever Ohio State puts in that slot,
1:02:40
Speaker 2: is ever a favorable matchup for the defense. Ohio State
1:02:43
Speaker 2: knows this. You got to get the balls, to get
1:02:46
Speaker 2: the ball to your playmakers in a proper position to
1:02:49
Speaker 2: do something with it. And I'm not talking about a
1:02:52
Speaker 2: quick pass that is read and picked off at your
1:02:54
Speaker 2: own seven yard line, like do better.
1:02:59
Speaker 1: You need to not do the thing that they've done
1:03:01
Speaker 1: against Michigan in the last two years that has probably
1:03:03
Speaker 1: cost them both of those Michigan games. And you know
1:03:06
Speaker 1: that kind of goes right into this from Odysseus, and
1:03:09
Speaker 1: we are going to have to wrap up in just
1:03:10
Speaker 1: a few minutes, so we're going to kind of zip
1:03:11
Speaker 1: through some of these, I think, but he said Odysseus says,
1:03:14
Speaker 1: need to jump on them early, with the crowd into it,
1:03:16
Speaker 1: and then getting acclimated to the temperature. The temperature. The
1:03:20
Speaker 1: more the forecast comes out, the more it's in Tennessee.
1:03:23
Speaker 1: The forecast in Knoxville the same day as Ohio State
1:03:26
Speaker 1: is as the Ohio State game, is very similar to
1:03:29
Speaker 1: what it is in Columbus. The forecast in Tennessee this
1:03:31
Speaker 1: week has been broadly it's pretty similar to what it's
1:03:33
Speaker 1: been in Columbus. So I think the temperature thing. If
1:03:36
Speaker 1: this is LSU coming up, if this is Florida coming up,
1:03:38
Speaker 1: that's one thing. Knoxville's kind of just barely south. It's
1:03:43
Speaker 1: kind of south adjacent almost so that the weather's probably
1:03:47
Speaker 1: not going to play as much of an impact in
1:03:48
Speaker 1: terms of just them not being able to get adjusted
1:03:51
Speaker 1: to the temperature. This is not the Miami Hurricanes coming
1:03:53
Speaker 1: to town, but getting on them early and getting the
1:03:56
Speaker 1: crowd into it. Absolutely. I mean Tennessee. If Tennessee's down
1:04:00
Speaker 1: a couple, you know, down ten points after the first quarter,
1:04:03
Speaker 1: that maybe makes them a little more one dimensional, make
1:04:05
Speaker 1: them a little more predictable. If Tennessee can't run the
1:04:07
Speaker 1: ball because they're behind. That makes Tennessee more predictable. That
1:04:11
Speaker 1: then opens things up more for Ohio State. Where you
1:04:13
Speaker 1: can run, you can pass, and that maybe does open
1:04:15
Speaker 1: up the run game a little bit. So, but yeah,
1:04:18
Speaker 1: and then keeping the crowd in the game obviously a
1:04:20
Speaker 1: big thing.
1:04:20
Speaker 2: It is sixty five right now in Knoxville. It's what
1:04:24
Speaker 2: it is, sixty five degrees right now in Knoxville.
1:04:26
Speaker 1: Okay, well it's not it was going to be last
1:04:28
Speaker 1: time I looked, it was going to be twenty five
1:04:31
Speaker 1: degrees in Knoxville on Saturday. So I don't know if
1:04:33
Speaker 1: that's I don't know if that's still true.
1:04:34
Speaker 2: But thirty one and I love twenty four. Okay.
1:04:37
Speaker 1: So market X says if Indiana went into South Bend
1:04:40
Speaker 1: and won, would anyone be surprised? And Drosey Dragon says
1:04:45
Speaker 1: Indiana can put up a lot of points quickly if
1:04:47
Speaker 1: they get hot. Ohio State says, I like that Indiana
1:04:49
Speaker 1: plus seven point five for sure. Harry says, the Indiana
1:04:54
Speaker 1: wins Friday, I mean I like Notre Dame to maybe
1:05:00
Speaker 1: be in a position to make it run. Would I
1:05:02
Speaker 1: would be fairly surprised if Indiana won I think there
1:05:06
Speaker 1: are teams in Indiana matches up well with Notre Dame.
1:05:09
Speaker 1: Noter Dame's got a pretty good defense, Marcus Freeman with
1:05:12
Speaker 1: a few weeks to prepare, this is not someone you're
1:05:14
Speaker 1: catching with. You know, they have a week to throw
1:05:17
Speaker 1: something together. Maybe Indiana is a better team than people
1:05:22
Speaker 1: outside of Big ten country are giving them credit for.
1:05:26
Speaker 1: But I don't know that Notre Dame is a great
1:05:27
Speaker 1: matchup for them.
1:05:28
Speaker 2: No, they run the ball really really well and they
1:05:31
Speaker 2: play defense. So that's that's the style that can win
1:05:35
Speaker 2: in this kind of condition. Yep.
1:05:37
Speaker 1: And Druger Dragon says Tennessee plays way better at home
1:05:40
Speaker 1: than on the road. That's true. I mean we had
1:05:42
Speaker 1: the Caleb Johnson Iowa question earlier. They're a little like
1:05:46
Speaker 1: Iowa where Iowa in Iowa City is one thing in
1:05:49
Speaker 1: Iowa away from Iowa City is a different thing. And
1:05:52
Speaker 1: Tennessee's I mean a lot of college football teams are
1:05:54
Speaker 1: like that. But Tennessee was just two and two on
1:05:56
Speaker 1: the road this year, lost at Arkansas, lost at Georgia.
1:06:00
Speaker 1: So yeah, they've they have a great home field, that atmosphere,
1:06:05
Speaker 1: but you don't get to travel with that, which transitions
1:06:09
Speaker 1: us into the last thing, and we're going to hit
1:06:11
Speaker 1: on once was Lass said, been seeing on here Tennessee
1:06:14
Speaker 1: people saying OSU fans are selling their tickets in mass,
1:06:17
Speaker 1: making it Niel and North true? Is that true? And
1:06:20
Speaker 1: then Bowman Bromley says, Neil and North is going to
1:06:23
Speaker 1: be echoing Rocky Top all night. I read that and
1:06:25
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, the last time I heard talk
1:06:27
Speaker 1: someone talking about singing Rocky Top all night, it was
1:06:31
Speaker 1: it was Lane Kiffen when he got the job and
1:06:34
Speaker 1: talked about how they were going to beat Florida and
1:06:35
Speaker 1: sing Rocky Top all night. And then he got his
1:06:37
Speaker 1: butt whooped and they left for what us you know,
1:06:40
Speaker 1: the raids of triver USC. He left for USC, right,
1:06:42
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, yeah, there's going to be Tennessee
1:06:46
Speaker 1: fans there. I think you know, you said last night
1:06:50
Speaker 1: you were kind of guessing ballpark like fifteen thousand, and yeah,
1:06:52
Speaker 1: that's and you know what, that's a great showing for
1:06:55
Speaker 1: a road crowd. That's a huge showing for a road crowd.
1:06:59
Speaker 1: It also leaves ninety thousand Ohio state fans, So I mean,
1:07:04
Speaker 1: you know it's they're probably going to be I'm guessing
1:07:06
Speaker 1: there are going to be fewer Tennessee fans at this
1:07:09
Speaker 1: game than there were at the Vanderbilt game, which is
1:07:11
Speaker 1: the last game they just played. And you know, so sure,
1:07:16
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, Tennessee is going to have a good
1:07:19
Speaker 1: Tennessee's going to have a good a good crowd. But
1:07:22
Speaker 1: you know, I go back to my barometer for We've
1:07:25
Speaker 1: seen Ohio State fans take over lots of different stadiums
1:07:28
Speaker 1: over the years. The game at Wrigley Field this year
1:07:31
Speaker 1: was easily ninety percent and probably ninety five percent in
1:07:33
Speaker 1: Ohio State fans. The barometer that I always use in
1:07:37
Speaker 1: terms of like two good programs in terms of taking
1:07:39
Speaker 1: over an opponent stadium is Georgia when they went up
1:07:41
Speaker 1: to Notre Dame. Like, go find pictures of Georgia playing
1:07:44
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame in like twenty seventeen, I think, and
1:07:49
Speaker 1: literally it's all red. It's just the whole end zone
1:07:52
Speaker 1: is red around the edge of the state. Like that's
1:07:55
Speaker 1: taking over stadium. Tennessee is not going to do that.
1:07:57
Speaker 1: They'll have they'll have a very nice showing. They're going
1:07:59
Speaker 1: to bring a ton of fans, They're gonna be very
1:08:01
Speaker 1: spirit and hope everyone has a great time and everyone
1:08:03
Speaker 1: plays nicely with the other children. But it's not gonna
1:08:07
Speaker 1: be like that. It's you know, every this is this
1:08:10
Speaker 1: is the time of week when everyone talks themselves into
1:08:13
Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy crap and you know, oh, it's
1:08:16
Speaker 1: gonna be sixty percent Tennessee fans, Oh, it's gonna be
1:08:18
Speaker 1: you know, well, how to say it's gonna win by
1:08:20
Speaker 1: fifty ten. You know, Tennessee is gonna win by forty
1:08:23
Speaker 1: The Big ten is gonna lose every game in the
1:08:25
Speaker 1: playoffs and forty Twoint's like, people talk themselves into all
1:08:29
Speaker 1: sorts of crazy crap this time a week, and then
1:08:31
Speaker 1: the game happens and it's like, yeah, it's probably that
1:08:35
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be play out sort of similar
1:08:37
Speaker 1: to the point spread, sort of similar to the over
1:08:40
Speaker 1: under number. If you pick the score based on the
1:08:42
Speaker 1: point spread and over under number, you're probably going to
1:08:44
Speaker 1: be reasonably close. Like that's just kind of about how
1:08:47
Speaker 1: these games typically go. Does that mean there can't be
1:08:50
Speaker 1: an upset? Of course there could be an upset. I mean,
1:08:52
Speaker 1: that's that's reasonable. We just saw that in Columbus, Ohio
1:08:55
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. But you know, it's it's probably not.
1:09:00
Speaker 1: It's not going to be sixty It's not going to
1:09:01
Speaker 1: be sixty thousand Tennessee fans. It's not going to be
1:09:03
Speaker 1: Neeland North unless unless your bar for Neil and North
1:09:06
Speaker 1: is extremely low. I'm just gonna zip through here real
1:09:11
Speaker 1: quick and say I there's anything else urgent that we
1:09:12
Speaker 1: need to get Nope, okay, no, okay, good, all right,
1:09:17
Speaker 1: So that will do it. Thank you guys all for
1:09:20
Speaker 1: joining us. We're gonna have much more coverage coming for
1:09:22
Speaker 1: you this week, all week long at YouTube dot com, slash,
1:09:25
Speaker 1: buckeh Huddle, and Buckeye Huddle dot com. Tony and I
1:09:28
Speaker 1: are going to about to record a show. We already
1:09:29
Speaker 1: did a show on what does Tennessee need to do
1:09:31
Speaker 1: to win the game? And you know, this is a
1:09:34
Speaker 1: that's a very plausible thing. This is not we don't
1:09:36
Speaker 1: bother doing the what would Acron need to do to
1:09:38
Speaker 1: win the game against Ohio State? Like, we don't bother
1:09:40
Speaker 1: doing that show. This is we only do those shows
1:09:42
Speaker 1: for games where the opponent has a real legitimate chance
1:09:44
Speaker 1: to win and there is an absolute path for Tennessee
1:09:46
Speaker 1: to win. There's also a very clear path for Ohio
1:09:48
Speaker 1: State to win so we'll talk about that and an
1:09:51
Speaker 1: upcoming show on the Buckeye Weekly podcast feed also did,
1:09:54
Speaker 1: as we mentioned earlier, an emergency podcast on the commitment
1:09:58
Speaker 1: of transfer right tackle Philip Daniels from Minnesota. You can
1:10:00
Speaker 1: find that on YouTube dot com, Slash Bucka Huddle or
1:10:03
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