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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
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  Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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  Speaker 3: What's up?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on? What's happening?
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  Speaker 3: Chaos.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: Everything. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The world's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Center of the storm. I think the world's back at
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  war today again, like officially, right? I don't think that
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  agreement with Iran lasted at all. I think there was
• 0:32
  bombings today in Lebanon and I think there's bombings today
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  in American bases. I try to not pay attention, dude.
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  I really do. I try to distract myself with science
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  stuff and space. I was watching this documentary yesterday on
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  how they make chips, like how they make like semiconductor chips. Dude.
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  This fucking machine that they use. I'm going to send
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  you this, Jamie, because it's bananas. It's like one of
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  the most complex machines in the world. And this machine
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  they use to make semiconductors, make chips. And they were
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  explaining the process of making these chips, how fucking nuts
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  it is, man. The amount of atoms that are stacked
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  on and the way they do it to make these
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  super complex high-end chips... There's people out there, Tony, that
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  are doing things way different than us. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like it.
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  Speaker 4: We're out there talking about sucking dicks and people shitting themselves.
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  And what's going on in other parts of the world
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  is people are doing science fiction. Like they're actually doing
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  science fiction. Here it is. Give me a second. I
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  like to save things. Here it is. The world's most
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  important machine. The one that's an hour long? Yes. Did
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  you find it? Yeah, it's an hour long. Yeah, but
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  just go to the– there's some animation where they show
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  how they make these things. Like it was right where
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  you were at. This is right at the beginning. Okay. Oh, okay.
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  So they're just showing some of the different aspects of
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  how these things are made. Go back to where that
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  guy had the laser beam. That's perfect actually where that
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  guy had the laser beam. So this is him explaining this.
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  So look at this. back it up a little bit
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  and give me some volume. Can you back it up
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  a little bit, please?
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  Speaker 2: I want to introduce it to you with a thought experiment.
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  Imagine you are shrunk down to the size of an end.
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  And you're given a laser that's strong enough to melt
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  through metal like butter. Next, a tiny droplet of molten tin,
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  roughly the size of a white blood cell, is shot
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  out in front of you around 250 kilometers per hour.
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  And your task is to hit this not once, not twice,
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  but three times in a row in 20 microseconds with
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  your little laser. Well, that is exactly what this machine does.
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  It hits one tiny tin droplet three times in a row,
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  heating each one up to over 220,000 Kelvin. That's roughly
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  40 times hotter than the surface of the sun. And
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  it doesn't just hit one droplet. It hits 50,000 droplets
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  every single second. How often do you miss a laser shot?
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  Speaker 4: We don't miss them. What?
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  Speaker 2: You do 150,000 laser shots a second and you don't
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  miss one.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The same machine also contains mirrors that might just be
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  the smoothest objects in the universe. If you scale one
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  up to the size of the Earth, then the largest
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  bump would be no thicker than a playing card.
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  Speaker 4: What the fuck?
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  Speaker 1: On top of that, it is able to overlay.
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  Speaker 2: One layer of a chip perfectly on top of another
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  and never be off by more than five atoms. And
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  this is all happening while parts of the machine whip
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  around at accelerations of over 20 Gs. For 30 years,
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  almost everyone thought that actually building this machine was impossible.
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  Speaker 4: And yet, it exists.
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  Speaker 2: There is only one company in the world that can
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  make it. So, what is this company? And what is
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  this impossible machine they've built? This video is.
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  Speaker 4: That's it. Wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What are they doing with that?
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  Speaker 4: All computers, like, Computer chips that are getting better and
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  better and better. All these AI chips. This is how
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  they make them.
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  Speaker 3: One interesting thing I can just add. I know when
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  they make those, they make like a big sheet of chips,
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  you know? Like there'll be like 30 or 50 of them.
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  They'll test each one. And the ones that are the best,
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  like test out like one out of 100. The ones
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  that are like closest to 100 become like the i9 chip.
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  And if it's like 85 out of 100, it becomes
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  like the i7 chip. So they all come off the
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  same sheet. It's like the best ones become the best chips.
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  They sell them for the most money. The next ones
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  are just a little degraded.
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  Speaker 4: No kidding. Interesting. So there was that issue with that
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  Samsung chip factory. And it was about they weren't getting
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  the results that they wanted. So it's probably they were
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  getting more of the shitty chips and not enough of
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  the perfect chips.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they want really high-end chips.
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  Speaker 4: You can smoke. We have a fan in here, dude. Yeah.
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  I mean... Imagine if everybody died and it was just
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  us in this room and there was like three late... Well,
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  it'd be more than that. We'd have to have more people. Otherwise,
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  we're going to fuck up the gene pool. We're all
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  going to look like the English royals. We probably need
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  a few thousand people. A few thousand people, like regular people,
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  like you and I that don't know shit about how
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  these things work. How much time would we need if
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  we repopulated the earth with what we know? Basically, you're
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  starting out like a fucking... Like a half-assed prepper, you know,
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  like someone who's on an episode of Lost, you know,
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  like one of those plane crash people trying to figure
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  out how to survive out there. You're fucked. Oh, yeah.
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  You're not inventing that. How long is it going to take?
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  Speaker 1: Infinity.
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  Speaker 4: And how many people have to pave the way? This
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  is the thing. For every one of these people that
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  makes an invention like this, you're making this on the
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  back of thousands and thousands and thousands of fucking super geniuses.
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  that have figured out each and every step of the
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  way that can lead you to thinking, is this possible
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  that we could do this next? You know, they all
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  build on each other. So you need all these guys,
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  and hopefully they don't get any pussy. Because otherwise they're
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  going to get distracted. You know, I bet if one
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  of them gets a hot wife, like one of their
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  patents kicks, and they start making bank, and then all
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  of a sudden he shows up for work in a Ferrari,
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  and next thing you know he's got a hot wife,
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  everybody's like, oh, my God. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Civilization just went back 200 years.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to lose Tim.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Tim's taking Adderall, coding 18 hours a day, trying to
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  figure out how to get us to Mars. Actually, that's
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  a bad point because Elon clearly gets pussy and doesn't
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  seem to be affecting him at all.
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  Speaker 1: I think Elon's different.
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  Speaker 4: He's definitely different.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, some people are different, different, different.
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  Speaker 4: It's fascinating how many people want to find flaws in
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  what he's doing.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Instead of just looking at this like, wow, this is
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  an extraordinary time to be alive. But it's because of
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  this narrative that people have. One of them, the big one,
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  is this USAID is killing people narrative. That people have
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  died because of USAID. And then a bunch of people
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  have given examples of how them cutting the funding has
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  led to the end of certain people's lives. Like when
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  they were in hospitals that didn't have any funding. And
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  there's a lot. That you could point to say, right,
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  if they had the money, they would have had the
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  funding and they would have had that equipment in place
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  or maybe they wouldn't have. But here's the other thing.
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  That's not discounting the fact that a lot of that
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  money is fraud.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of it. Like it's not a little amount.
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  And the idea that you should let it go on
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  because it's going to save lives and there's a bunch
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  of people that are stealing money. OK. I see that argument.
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  But why? why are we sending them money in the
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  first place? Did we do something to them? Do we
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  owe them money? No? Okay, we're just being nice? Are
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  you sure we're just being nice? Is there anybody profiting
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  off of us being nice? Because usually just being nice
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  for no reason and just giving tax money away for
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  no reason, I don't think they do that. I don't
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  think that's real. I used to think that was real.
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  I used to think that charity was real. And now
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  I look and I go, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  This is a giant scam that's wrapped up in virtue.
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  It's wrapped up in a nice cozy blanket of being
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  kind and compassionate and virtuous and doing good things for
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  people all around the world. I think a lot of
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  people get involved in those things because that's what they think.
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  We're going to do good things around the world. The
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  good people, I really believe that. And then they find
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  out how it really works. And then they get stuck
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  in that system and then they're making their way up
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  their air quotes, corporate ladder to the point where some
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  of them are making a million dollars a year. And
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  you're like, what is this? What is this? This is
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  a business. This isn't really charity. Most of the money
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  is going to your employees and your overhead. Why do
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  you have such a big building? You're like, what are
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  you doing? How come you're not just funneling the money
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  to these people?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Like the LA fire aid. Great example. Spencer Pratt told me,
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  how many, what number did he say of nonprofits got
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  that money? So over $ 100 million gets raised. I don't
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  know the exact total. All of it goes to these
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  different nonprofits. I think he said 200 different nonprofits got
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  the money. And then what happens to that? Well, they
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  just pay their employees. They pay overhead. They pay their
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  rent on fucking nice office on wherever they live. Fuck, man.
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  It's so disheartening because you've– so that's what all that
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  stuff is. And it's also– if you listen to when
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  Mike Benz has been on my podcast a few times
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  and explains USAID, people think of it as aid. You
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  think of it as, oh, we're helping the world, which
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  is great, right? But it's not that. It's the Agency
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  for International Development and it involves funding rap bands overseas
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  that are– the subversive rap bands that are supposed to
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  excite people to take over the government. It's like a
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  bunch of weird shit. It funds rebels. It funds newspapers.
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  What was he talking about? There was a lot of
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  it funding rap music. This is crazy. People have long
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  said that rap music, even though, listen, you love hip hop.
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  I know you just got back from Kanye West. I'm
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  a huge hip hop fan.
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  Speaker 1: We got to talk about that at some point.
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  Speaker 4: We definitely do. I love hip hop. But there's some
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  people that believe that gangsta rap in particular, when it
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  came about in the 1980s, was a part of The
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  push to popularize it and produce it was a part
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  of the government, some faction of the government, some intelligence
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  agencies wanting to create more crime, wanting to fill more
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  private prisons, wanting to erode the fabric of society so
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  they could push for more laws to keep you safer.
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  This is like the– one of the most tinfoil-y of
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  tinfoil hat conspiracies. But people are pointing out that right
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  now it's like one of the rare times where no
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  rap music is on the charts. And they're saying, well,
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  how does this coincide with USAID? Was USAID like actively
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  promoting rap music? Was that one of the reasons why
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  rap music was so popular? Is that real? That can't
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  be real.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe back in the day. It seems like that would
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  be more manipulative.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that until I heard mumble rap. I'm like,
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  this is not real. This is trying to make people stupid.
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  There's something about this. And obviously some artists are better
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  at it. Some of them are fun the way they
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  do it. But I'm saying there's a giant chunk of
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  them that are inaudible. Who's into this?
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  Speaker 1: Almost all of them are inaudible.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on there? Imagine if that was it. It
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  was like, People heard Nas and like, this guy's too smart.
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  We got to dumb it down a little. We got
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  to promote some people that can barely talk. We got
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  to promote some people that are on cough syrup, apparently.
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  Have you ever done that cough syrup? No. They seem
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  to love it. A lot of dudes who are into
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  that cough syrup, man, they swear by it.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's got to be fun. It's got to
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  be enjoyable.
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  Speaker 4: Is it codeine? Is that what they're doing?
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  Speaker 1: I think so.
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  Speaker 4: Have you done it, Jamie? Bro, we talked about this before,
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  but I remember back in the 90s, I got a
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  hold of some NyQuil. The real NyQuil. Like, I guess
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  they changed the formula for NyQuil. And I had, you know, whatever,
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  the flu or something. And I took some NyQuil and
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  I was laying in bed and I was like, this
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  is wonderful. Yeah. It was wonderful. Like, just the warmth,
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  the softness of the pillows and the warmth of the
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  bed with the covers over me. I'm like, oh, this
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  is wonderful. And I remember thinking, ooh, this is dangerous. Oh, yeah.
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  Like this is a dangerous feeling because if your life
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  was shit and you found that, like that's better than
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  anything else that's happening in your life. Yeah. And you
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  can get it at CVS.
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  Speaker 5: Crazy.
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  Speaker 4: What was in the old NyQuil before they switched it?
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  Speaker 1: I avoid that stuff like the plague. I'm afraid of medicine.
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  Speaker 4: So this stuff probably was like sitting in my house
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  if I took it. So it might have even been
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  older than 97 or 98, whenever this was, and I
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  was sick. But I'll never forget it because I never
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  get like getting scared. Like I could love this. I
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  could just drink this during the day and just like
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  sit on my back porch if I have the day off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Just get obliterated with NyQuil and just enjoy the universe.
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  Speaker 1: I told you about that time I took a half
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  of the pain pill that the dentist gave me for
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  my wisdom tooth. I was like, oh, fuck, this is life-changing.
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  Speaker 4: It says the earliest NyQuil formula include ephedrine, which is
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  a decongestant, doxylamine, sucinate, which is an antihistamine, acetaminophen, dextromethylamine, methorphan,
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  cough suppressant, and about 25% alcohol. Oh, I was getting
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  drunk too. Wow. What changed in the mid-2000s after the
• 14:32
  combat methamphetamine? There it is. They removed pseudoephedrine. So was
• 14:38
  that the stuff? So it wasn't codeine. I think there
• 14:42
  is NyQuil with codeine though, right? What I had was
• 14:46
  pretty good. I don't think it was as simple.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you had the stuff they could make meth out
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  of or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, we'll put it in perplexity. And perplexity says,
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  in the mid-2000s, yeah, NyQuil brands sold in the U.S.
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  do not contain codeine, and there's never been a standard
• 15:05
  Vicks NyQuil with codeine in its active ingredient lineup. Typical
• 15:11
  NyQuil form. So codeine, so does any cough syrup have
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  codeine in it?
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  Speaker 3: That's what lean is.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: They add it? Or is it just prescription cough syrup?
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  That was the whole thing about it. Maybe I am
• 15:24
  fucking up my memory and maybe it wasn't NyQuil. Because
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  whatever it was, it seemed like.
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  Speaker 3: People used to get fucked up off NyQuil. If you
• 15:30
  had to drink the whole bottle, you'd get NyQuil.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Just get fucked up.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely didn't drink the whole bottle. I know I
• 15:35
  took a dose. Like a strong dose.
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  Speaker 3: That means you're just getting fucked up off 25% alcohol
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  and a little bit of.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: A little bit of side meth.
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  Speaker 4: See, the thing is it's so long ago, I can't remember.
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  I say NyQuil because it's like saying Q-tips. you know,
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  or Kleenex just because it's tissues or ear swabs. I
• 15:53
  don't know if it was NyQuil, but it was cough syrup,
• 15:55
  whatever the fuck it was. And I felt wonderful. And
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  I remember thinking like, this could be a real problem.
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  Like that one day in bed, because I'm always scared
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  of stuff like that. I'm always scared to get, I
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  knew too many people when I was growing up that
• 16:07
  got hooked on stuff and it just derailed their life.
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  So lying in bed, I was like, oh, you're going
• 16:11
  to do this again. No more of this. Right. I
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  like it. Yeah. Yeah. I got a knee surgery once.
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  They gave me morphine They make morphine in a drip.
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  And they say that you can only hit that button
• 16:24
  so many times it stops giving to you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But every time you feel pain, you can just hit
• 16:28
  the button. Because I was on like a perpetual motion machine. Yeah.
• 16:31
  So my leg's going. And I'm just like bang, bang, bang, bang.
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  Speaker 1: The closest I come to that, because I've never had
• 17:32
  like a serious surgery or anything, but I go to this,
• 17:34
  they have a dental office here in Austin called the
• 17:37
  Austin Dental Spa. So their whole thing is like a
• 17:41
  luxurious dental experience and they will hook you up to
• 17:46
  laughing gas and they let you like, if they're like,
• 17:49
  they're like, you want a little more? And I'm like, okay, yeah.
• 17:52
  And that's like the closest I get to it is
• 17:54
  once every six months or so I go there and dude,
• 17:57
  I'm always excited about this fucking experience.
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  Speaker 4: It is so awesome. Do you ever come up with
• 18:03
  bits after doing laughing gas? Does it give you any ideas?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: No, but during the thing, it makes me weirdly honest.
• 18:09
  You ever seen in Kill Bill when he shoots her
• 18:11
  in the knee with the honest gun? Because he was
• 18:13
  a chemist for like a living. It's like his secret job.
• 18:17
  So he comes up with this truth serum. And I've
• 18:18
  noticed that it makes me like weirdly very honest. So
• 18:22
  one time when I was in the dental office, the
• 18:24
  guy's doing whatever. And I'm like, And I'm jacked on
• 18:29
  laughing gas because you're not really like cracking up. You're
• 18:32
  just like in heaven and you're like kind of smiling
• 18:35
  ear to ear. And I remember going like, how long
• 18:38
  did you go to school for dental school? And he's like,
• 18:41
  whatever the answer is, like eight years. And I'm like,
• 18:43
  did you ever think about going longer and becoming a
• 18:45
  real doctor? And I realized like kind of in the moment,
• 18:49
  even though I was fucked up, like that sounds mean.
• 18:52
  But I think they're totally used to it. I think
• 18:54
  they know that laughing gas makes people fucking.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I bet they're not used to that, dude. That's so mean.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: That's not supposed to... That's what I'm saying. It's like
• 19:02
  a dangerously... A real doctor. A dangerous truth serum.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Some people want to be dentists. Yeah. We need them, too. Yeah.
• 19:10
  You know?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Crazy gig.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: It's a weird one.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I know. You might show us bad breath they smell.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: And just weird things lodged in teeth for God only
• 19:20
  knows how long.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: When I got my root canal, one of the reasons
• 19:24
  why I had to get it is because I had
• 19:26
  a cap on my tooth or a filler, whatever it is.
• 19:30
  What's it called? No, when they just fill your tooth up.
• 19:35
  Why can't I remember? Fillings. Why did I say filler? Whatever. Yeah.
• 19:40
  It was an old school one. It was like white plastic.
• 19:43
  And when I was a kid, I used to have them.
• 19:44
  They were like fucking lead. They used to give you
• 19:46
  lead fillings, which is crazy. Like kids had lead in there. mouth.
• 19:52
  And it was hurting. It was bothering me. So what
• 19:54
  had happened was I had cracked the tooth and it
• 19:58
  had gotten infected underneath the filling. So he takes the
• 20:02
  filling out and drills into it. And the smell that
• 20:07
  came out of my mouth. It was pus. All this
• 20:11
  pus came out and this fucking horrific smell. I was like, oh,
• 20:16
  my God. Is that coming out of my mouth? Yeah.
• 20:19
  He's like, oh, that's normal. It's decay. Right. There's an
• 20:22
  infection under here. We're going to treat it. You're going
• 20:24
  to be fine. Yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Piece of elk from seven years ago.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: This is a long time ago. This is a long
• 20:29
  time ago. It was before I was hunting, I think.
• 20:31
  But it was, you know, people die from that stuff,
• 20:34
  which is really crazy. Like, if you don't take care
• 20:36
  of your teeth and you get that kind of infection.
• 20:39
  Those kind of infections can become septic.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's nuts. Sometimes I'll do a thing where
• 20:45
  I'll water floss after I brush my teeth just to
• 20:48
  see what would have been left in there if I
• 20:51
  just did what normal humans do.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Because I'm one of those.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: High pressure water flossers that I fucking love. Complete game
• 20:57
  changer for life. And it's insane what will jet out
• 21:01
  of there. We get stuck deep in between the teeth
• 21:04
  and everything and For the most part, I do it
• 21:08
  before I brush, but every once in a while I'll
• 21:09
  be like, I wonder if there's anything left in there. Yeah,
• 21:13
  you have to floss. You're going to get a bunch
• 21:15
  of shit stuck in there. And even then, sometimes I'll
• 21:18
  regular floss and then brush my teeth and just out
• 21:20
  of curiosity go, I wonder if there's anything left in there.
• 21:23
  And I'll do a one silver with the water flosser
• 21:25
  and you see like, ding, ding, ding, three little things
• 21:27
  come out. And it's like, that would have marinated in
• 21:30
  between my teeth or in the back of my gum
• 21:32
  line or whatever.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not good. But according to my dentist, he
• 21:36
  thinks it's all sugar. He thinks if you go back
• 21:39
  and you look at like when people started developing serious cavities, it's,
• 21:43
  I mean, people have always had abscesses and broken teeth
• 21:47
  and there's always been like dental problems that haunted people
• 21:51
  because back in the day man they just pull the
• 21:53
  tooth out and then who knows what kind of infection
• 21:55
  you still have in there and they don't treat it
• 21:58
  in the 1700s if you broke your tooth and got
• 22:00
  an infection you could be fucking dead you know you
• 22:02
  could die from that shit but he was saying that
• 22:04
  the the amount of cavities like steeply increased when people
• 22:09
  started putting sugar in everything and then kids started drinking
• 22:12
  sugary sodas and eating sugary candy and And that stuff
• 22:15
  gets stuck in your teeth. It's like I think that's
• 22:17
  the cause of it. Yeah.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: And probably high fructose corn syrup is probably just as
• 22:21
  bad or if not worse than actual sugar.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: That stuff is not good for your body. That's for sure.
• 22:26
  Your body doesn't like it. Someone explained to me what's
• 22:29
  the difference in the absorption of high fructose corn syrup
• 22:31
  versus natural cane sugar. I completely forget how they explained it.
• 22:35
  But they were basically saying that there's some issues with
• 22:38
  how the body breaks it down. When you drink a soda,
• 22:42
  just think about that. We're in nature. Do you get
• 22:44
  20 grams of sugar just in liquid form and you
• 22:48
  just pump it down? Glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug. Ah, refreshing.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Crazy. My buddy that I went to school with just
• 22:56
  flew in from Hawaii, which is where he's lived for
• 22:59
  like 20 years. He's like a wilderness guy. Climbs trees
• 23:03
  and cuts down his own pineapples and coconuts and stuff
• 23:06
  all the time. He's got a great life. And he
• 23:11
  checked a bag this trip just a few days ago.
• 23:14
  And he brought it to the mothership because that's where
• 23:16
  we met up. And he surprised me with this checked
• 23:18
  bag that had the moldings built in and everything. It
• 23:22
  had four coconuts and two white Hawaiian pineapples, I think
• 23:26
  they're called, which run like $ 65 each or something in
• 23:30
  the U.S. It's impossible to get. And according to him,
• 23:35
  I don't know. He's a real hippy dippy type.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Is that the dude that you brought to the mothership? Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Anthony.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Your friend from high school.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Which is crazy.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's the man. He's just a real dude.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: It's crazy when you know people for that long. Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:48
  And so this dude is just living in Hawaii, living
• 23:50
  his best life.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And I mean, holy shit. These fucking pineapple. He's like, dude,
• 23:55
  you're going to love this pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. He just
• 23:58
  kept going on about it. I'm like, all right, okay.
• 24:00
  Sure enough, holy fucking shit, man. It's nature can deliver
• 24:04
  you a sugar dose. Because he was saying that white
• 24:08
  Hawaiian pineapples have higher sugar but much lower acidity than
• 24:12
  what we're used to. So it makes a whole different,
• 24:14
  and since obviously it's natural sugar and this and that,
• 24:17
  it just makes a whole different type of fucking fruit.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. Sounds good.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Wild how we have to go other places to get
• 24:25
  unbelievable shit.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Well, of course, Hawaii. Yeah. Hawaii really should be its
• 24:29
  own country. Listen, I love Hawaii. I'm glad they're protected
• 24:33
  by the United States. People are cool as fuck. It
• 24:36
  should be its own country. It's five hours by plane.
• 24:38
  I mean, come on, man. White pineapples, primarily known as
• 24:43
  sugar loaf or white jade pineapples. Highly prized, rare variety
• 24:48
  grown in Hawaii. Unlike standard yellow, they feature creamy white flesh,
• 24:52
  practically no acidity, and a completely edible core.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: It was great. And fucking he climbs a goddamn tree
• 25:01
  like a little fucking monkey boy. Normal little white dude.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: How did he wind up in Hawaii?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: He's a real free spirit. He always was. I think
• 25:11
  he just went out there, visited and stayed. He's the
• 25:14
  kind of guy that just gets a one way ticket
• 25:16
  places and figures it out as he goes. He's in
• 25:18
  Youngstown right now. That shows you how adventurous and crazy
• 25:21
  he is. He's like, I'm going to spend a week
• 25:23
  and a half there. I'm like a week and a
• 25:25
  half in Youngstown.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Why is he doing that?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Visit family and friends.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Is there a good hotel to stay at?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And I even had to look this up recently because
• 25:36
  I'm like, I'm not staying at the crazy hotel that
• 25:38
  I stayed at last time I was there. So I'm
• 25:41
  like best hotel in Youngstown. And the funniest thing is
• 25:44
  the actual closest option was in Pennsylvania, like 50 minutes away.
• 25:50
  I mean, there's one like double tree downtown, but it's
• 25:53
  in an area of Absolute chaos. I mean, just death wish.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Do you ever go back there and go, I can't
• 26:01
  believe I grew up here? Always.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: 100% of the time. I got a feeling for it
• 26:05
  immediately when I went to L.A. and I didn't hear
• 26:08
  police sirens anymore. Like, as often, at least. You know
• 26:12
  what I mean?
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Isn't that funny? Like, L.A. with L.A. 's crime.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: That's what I always thought. I'm like, oh, this is
• 26:18
  going to be crazy. I've heard these Tupac songs. Like,
• 26:20
  this is going to be nuts.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: That was USAID.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: So peaceful.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: So peaceful. In Youngstown, at least when I was growing
• 26:30
  up there, you could hear a police siren or an
• 26:32
  ambulance siren almost at any point of the day.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: God.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: My buddy sent me a shirt recently, too. Another buddy
• 26:41
  that has the stats on it of us being the
• 26:44
  murder capital. I think it was 90, 91, and 96
• 26:48
  per capita. Not the biggest population. But per capita, it
• 26:54
  was the most dangerous place you could be. When I
• 26:57
  was in those most developmental years when a kid shouldn't
• 27:00
  be having his head next to the window. Yeah, there
• 27:03
  it is. I got that shirt.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Four-time defending champion, murder capital of America.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Wow. Yep.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: In 01, 02, that puts me as a sophomore and
• 27:14
  junior in high school.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: 95, 97, I'm 11, 12.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: And you're being raised by your mom.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: On the north, on the craziest fucking area of the
• 27:25
  whole goddamn thing. The most dilapidated part of the north
• 27:28
  side of Youngstown.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it. That's why, like, every part of
• 27:36
  my fucking story, I'm like, this is so goddamn weird.
• 27:40
  So weird.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: It is when you think about it, right? When you
• 27:43
  really stop and think about it, it doesn't seem real.
• 27:45
  60 years ago, this Ohio city was named Crimetown, USA. Yeah.
• 27:49
  Crime Town. 75 bombings. Yep. Oh, this was the mob days.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: So it used to be a mob run town, right? Totally.
• 27:58
  They were called Bomb Town?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A Youngstown tune-up is a car bomb.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Look at this. 75 bombings, 11 killings in a decade,
• 28:08
  and no one seems to care.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: They were so nuts in Youngstown that somebody tried to
• 28:13
  kill the actual prosecutor, the actual D.A.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Isn't that normal? Do they always try to do that?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of the stupidest, craziest thing you could
• 28:23
  do because then the entire FBI comes down on you.
• 28:27
  It's a little short-sighted to go, we're going to kill
• 28:30
  the main cop of this city and not think that
• 28:33
  anything's going to happen from that. Well, we beat the game.
• 28:36
  We beat the main cop.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Imagine trying to be an intelligent businessman and also a
• 28:41
  mob leader. Imagine playing things out in advance, but also
• 28:46
  you're a mob leader.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of that going on and I
• 28:50
  got to see quite a bit of it. Like there were, uh,
• 28:54
  let's put it this way, mall developers in Youngstown and
• 28:57
  things like that. And I got to see firsthand, very
• 29:00
  young that they were communicating with politicians at lunchtime and stuff,
• 29:05
  because I was working at this little Italian restaurant at
• 29:08
  the time, right out of high school. And, um, and
• 29:13
  They were having these quiet meetups in a quiet, in
• 29:16
  the corner of a quiet Italian restaurant. And you would
• 29:19
  see these huge moguls, you know, I won't name any names,
• 29:23
  but big business people in Youngstown meeting with the local
• 29:26
  this and that and congressmen. I got to meet that
• 29:29
  congressman and that congressman because they're there meeting with these
• 29:31
  super duper rich people. And I'm like, I wonder what
• 29:33
  the correlation is there.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Bro, back then when there was no cell phones.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Know they had to bug people they have to they
• 29:42
  had to literally bug businesses to get information like they
• 29:46
  were all doing something oh yeah you couldn't be involved
• 29:49
  in any big time business if you weren't down with
• 29:52
  the teamsters if you weren't down with the longshoremen you
• 29:55
  had a you had a We've got to work this out, Bobby.
• 29:59
  We're businessmen. That's how you do the business.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Give a little money to their campaign. Not a little,
• 30:06
  but a bit. And then you can get your stuff
• 30:09
  passed and make life easier down the road.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Dude, I had friends that had no-show jobs. Wow. Yeah.
• 30:16
  I had a friend of mine that had a no-show
• 30:17
  job in New York at the Javits Center. You know,
• 30:21
  the Javits Center is like a big convention center. He
• 30:24
  had a union no-show job. Wow. So he's a mob guy.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: And they just gave him money.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I only saw that on The Sopranos. They had those
• 30:33
  no-show construction jobs. They're sitting there with their portable fans.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, that's real, dude. That is a real thing. Yeah.
• 30:41
  They get a certain amount of jobs. They would make agreements.
• 30:45
  The union would make an agreement. We get a certain
• 30:47
  amount of these jobs. It's like, you know.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: There's really 100 jobs, but we want 130.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: 130.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Youngstown was a haven for organized crime. Related corruption was
• 31:02
  ingrained into the fabric of its society. A 2000 publication,
• 31:05
  New Republic, listed a chief of police, the outgoing prosecutor,
• 31:08
  the sheriff, the county engineer, members of the local police force,
• 31:12
  a city law director, several defense attorneys, politicians, judges, and
• 31:16
  a former assistant U.S. attorney as controlled by the mob.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: So if they have that, if they found that for sure,
• 31:26
  imagine how many others there are.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Right. That's everybody. That's everybody. The prosecutor, the sheriff, the
• 31:32
  county engineer, the police force, city law director, defense attorney.
• 31:36
  Imagine not being down with the mob. Do you want
• 31:39
  to stay alive? Do you want to work in this business? Right.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: And this is a city. I think we looked it
• 31:44
  up the other day, actually. I think it only has 25,000
• 31:46
  white people. So knowing that black people tend to not
• 31:51
  be in the Italian mob, just going off of 25,000,
• 31:56
  and that's current. I don't know what it was back
• 31:58
  in the day. But the point is, it's like, it's
• 32:01
  not a big city. It's not. I think 50,000, 60,000,
• 32:06
  half or less white. There's Tony.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. There's little Tony watching pro wrestling. Oh, yeah.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Pro wrestling and even then i was obsessed with goodfellas
• 32:17
  and a bronx tale and a godfather because it's like
• 32:20
  it's just what you're taught is humanity like that's life
• 32:24
  yeah so getting out of that and going to la
• 32:28
  and thinking it was going to be all it's going
• 32:30
  to be crazy gangs and stuff and it's just quiet
• 32:33
  granted i started in burbank which is a fucking television
• 32:36
  studio essentially but When I moved.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: To New Jersey and I didn't have any money, when
• 32:40
  I first moved to New York, I couldn't afford to
• 32:42
  live in New York City. Or I didn't even have
• 32:45
  an apartment. I stayed with my grandparents because my grandfather
• 32:48
  lived in New Jersey, in Newark. And he bought a
• 32:52
  house there in– I think it was like the 1940s.
• 32:56
  And they did a thing called blockbusting. Do you know
• 32:58
  what blockbusting is? They would go door to door and
• 33:01
  they would say black people are moving to the neighborhood.
• 33:02
  You got to sell now. And everybody sold. It used
• 33:04
  to be an entirely Italian neighborhood. And he was like,
• 33:08
  I like black people. Get the fuck out of here.
• 33:09
  And he kept his house. But it was like one
• 33:11
  of very few families that stayed. And then black people
• 33:15
  moved out. And then they started getting like different people,
• 33:19
  Spanish-speaking people, like Dominicans and a bunch of other. And
• 33:23
  that's how it was when I stayed with them. So
• 33:26
  this is like 91. Yeah. I was three years into comedy.
• 33:32
  So it's probably 91. And while I was living with him,
• 33:35
  the next door neighbor's house got broken into by the cops.
• 33:38
  The DEA smashed down his door. The dude had an
• 33:40
  Audi parked in the driveway. He was selling crack. Like
• 33:43
  right next door to my grandpa. Wow. The whole neighborhood
• 33:46
  was just nuts, dude. Like he would get really nervous
• 33:48
  when I would leave. Like I would leave to go
• 33:50
  play pool somewhere. And he'd be like, be careful. Like
• 33:52
  it was fucking sketchy. Yeah. But it didn't used to be.
• 33:58
  Like when he first moved there, it was just an
• 34:01
  all-Italian neighborhood.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Real estate people, even back then, like what a dirty
• 34:06
  thing to do. Scare people into moving. That's probably the
• 34:10
  first project of USAID. That's probably. Yeah. They probably got
• 34:16
  real estate people to destroy neighborhoods.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: There's something to it. I don't know the correlation of
• 34:21
  Italian neighborhoods being taken over, not taken over, but whatever,
• 34:27
  by black people. Like mob run cities like Youngstown, like Chicago,
• 34:32
  like Detroit. it's an interesting anomaly. I wonder if there's
• 34:38
  any correlation between the things.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, most of the Italians that came in
• 34:43
  the early 20th century were very poor. You know, they
• 34:47
  were all coming over here for labor or jobs and
• 34:49
  things along those lines. And, you know, when they started
• 34:54
  doing better, they started moving out and moving into the
• 34:57
  suburbs and moving into more gentrified areas. It's always... What
• 35:03
  are the new immigrants that are going to come and
• 35:05
  take over this area that was like formerly a low-income
• 35:08
  Italian neighborhood or a low-income Irish neighborhood? It's the same thing.
• 35:12
  Like there's cycles. It's like there's cycles in fighting too.
• 35:17
  Like in the early 20th century, there's a lot of
• 35:20
  Jewish fighters like Slappy, Maxie Rosenblum. You never heard of him, right?
• 35:25
  Very good Jewish fighters because they were poor. And they
• 35:29
  were the new immigrants. And this is like before World
• 35:33
  War II. And then in– and even afterwards there was some.
• 35:38
  But then you get Italians. You get a lot of Italians.
• 35:40
  You get Rocky Marciano, Rocky Graziano. There's a lot of
• 35:44
  like Jake LaMotta. There's a lot of these like Italian
• 35:47
  bad motherfuckers because they were poor. And then what happened?
• 35:51
  Then you got a lot of Puerto Ricans, a lot
• 35:54
  of– it's always like who's the new immigrants.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: And who are the most hungry, come from the most
• 36:00
  poverty-ridden areas. Like, Roberto Duran came from a terrible part
• 36:04
  of Panama. Like, not terrible, but, I mean, like, very poor,
• 36:07
  very violent. Yeah. And he was one of the baddest
• 36:10
  motherfuckers of all time.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Boom Boom Mancini was right down the street.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah. I mean, Youngstown's known for boxing. Yeah.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Kelly Pavlik.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Kelly Pavlik, who's been on the podcast. He's awesome.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: He was a beast, dude.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Oh, man.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: That fight with him and Jermaine Taylor.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Holy shit.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I still rewatch the end of that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: How did he survive?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Give me a burst of energy.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, how did he make it through? That was
• 36:36
  a crazy. I mean, he got dropped. He looks like
• 36:39
  the fight was over. And then when he's got him
• 36:41
  in the corner and he rocks him. And you go,
• 36:44
  no way. He's coming back. This is crazy. Did you
• 36:48
  watch the fights this weekend? Jaron Boots Ennis. And I
• 36:51
  forget the dude who's fighting.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: No, I was at that concert. I missed it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Boots is very good, and for the most part, he
• 36:58
  beat his ass. But the third round, he got rocked.
• 37:01
  The third round was incredible because the kid he was fighting,
• 37:04
  who's the gentleman that he was fighting, Jamie? Xander Zayas. Zayas, yeah.
• 37:08
  Young kid. He got dropped in the second round, like
• 37:12
  pretty bad. Boots is very good. He's like one of
• 37:14
  the best boxers alive. And then the third round, the
• 37:17
  kid came back and rocked Boots, and it was just
• 37:19
  a war. Just the third round was incredible. Boots wound
• 37:22
  up stopping him. I think he stopped him in like.
• 37:25
  The seventh or the eighth round, he just dropped him
• 37:28
  one last time, and the corner called it. It was enough. Like,
• 37:32
  he was getting his ass kicked. But he was very,
• 37:34
  very valiant, you know. It was a really good fight. Like,
• 37:37
  Boots is better than him, like, clearly. He's on another level.
• 37:40
  But this kid showed just tremendous heart. But it's like
• 37:43
  that third round was just coming back from getting dropped
• 37:47
  in the second. Like, those kind of moments where a
• 37:49
  guy's getting fucked up, like the Gaethje-Deporia fight. Perfect example, right?
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: That's when it's really a fight.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: A real fight.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Because Toporia was on him in that second round. Oh, man.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: We were so close. They were in. Oh, you could
• 38:06
  hear it. Oh, you could feel it. Where I was, man. And,
• 38:11
  you know, obviously we're always close to the cage on
• 38:14
  those things. But when Toporia was landing those body shots,
• 38:20
  it was right against our side of the fence. And
• 38:23
  I'm literally like, oh. I mean, holy fucking shit, man.
• 38:28
  And I've seen a lot of people get ripped to
• 38:29
  the body before, but there is something about his close
• 38:32
  range strength in near that clinch, that close up fucking
• 38:37
  range of Ilya that is scary.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: He's so good, dude. He's so good. And he's so precise.
• 38:45
  He just tried to like Chael. I always repeat this
• 38:48
  because Chael Sonnen said it was perfect. If you try
• 38:50
  to win by knockout and fail, you won't win a decision.
• 38:55
  And sometimes you just run out of gas because, like,
• 38:58
  you're not supposed to fight like that if you think
• 39:00
  that the fight's going to go five rounds. Like, Ilya
• 39:02
  had him hurt, and he's like, I can take him out.
• 39:05
  But Justin's so durable, man. He's so durable. And that
• 39:10
  left hook to the body, the sound of it, man,
• 39:13
  is just whip. It's so perfect. He throws perfect punches.
• 39:17
  His punches are just, I mean, even Justin said it
• 39:21
  in the post-fight interview. Like, when he's fresh, his skills
• 39:24
  are unmatched. That's a crazy thing to say to a
• 39:26
  guy who just beat up and made stop. He stopped
• 39:29
  him in the fourth round. That's crazy to say. His
• 39:32
  skills are unmatched, but they really are.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: At every point of that, anybody I think that knows
• 39:39
  anything about those two fighters is going, until this is stopped,
• 39:44
  anybody can win this. Even when his face was blown
• 39:49
  up and his eyes looked black and closed, until that
• 39:54
  air horn rings, I'm like, anything. One punch. And we've
• 39:58
  seen it. Even with Gaethje, you saw it with Holloway, right?
• 40:02
  Was it him? Who did he square up with in
• 40:03
  the middle?
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Yes. Holloway, yeah. Max hit him with that final punch.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: One chin, with one second left, it can all be over.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a little different in that Holloway caught
• 40:16
  him with a jump spinning back kick to the face
• 40:19
  in the very last seconds of the first round and
• 40:21
  broke the bone of his nose. We talked about it
• 40:25
  on the podcast. And I was like, that changed that fight.
• 40:27
  Because before that, Gaethje was pressing him and it looked
• 40:31
  very competitive. And it looked like maybe Gaethje had a
• 40:34
  slight advantage. But that's because Max... Max is a very
• 40:39
  clever fighter. He's always switching stances and moving and really
• 40:43
  hadn't showed that spinning back kick a lot. That hadn't
• 40:45
  been a feature in a lot of his fights. He
• 40:47
  did it a few times, but for him to land
• 40:50
  it that way, backing up, jump to the face, I mean,
• 40:53
  it was perfect. It was perfect. And his nose was fucked.
• 40:57
  And if you're fighting with a broken bone on your face,
• 41:00
  every time you're getting hit, you're getting just blasted. The
• 41:04
  pain is insane. And then, you know, he had, you know,
• 41:09
  he was a step behind Max. Max was teeing off
• 41:11
  on him. He landed some good shots, though, even though
• 41:14
  it was a good fight. I mean, Max was definitely
• 41:16
  ahead in the fifth round, but it was a good fight.
• 41:20
  And then, you know, during that wild exchange, he should
• 41:23
  have never done that.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: He was already fading, whereas Max was still very fresh.
• 41:29
  Fucking crazy fight, man. That was a crazy fight.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I think Topuria's nose was broken and Round two, I think.
• 41:37
  It was pretty early on. Hard to say.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, but Justin did clip him with a
• 41:42
  bunch of those uppercuts. So Justin does this thing where
• 41:46
  he like collar ties you and then throws an uppercut
• 41:49
  in tight and he's really good at it. He's really
• 41:51
  good at like turning you a little and then throwing
• 41:53
  an uppercut in these exchanges. He collar ties and uppercuts.
• 41:57
  He caught him a few times, and you just get
• 41:59
  one of those on the fucking nose, on the old schnozzle.
• 42:02
  This thing's so brittle. Yeah. It's such a, if you
• 42:05
  feel your nose, just feel it. Have you ever seen
• 42:08
  Merab's nose? The x-ray of Merab's nose? You've never seen it?
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Uh-uh.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I sent it to you, right, Jamie? Jamie will find it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Look at what it looks like. Oh, my God. Look
• 42:20
  at that. Oh, fuck. Bro. That thing is destroyed. I mean,
• 42:26
  it's destroyed. He's getting zero air out of that. He's
• 42:29
  got the best cardio on planet Earth, and he's getting
• 42:32
  zero air out of his nose.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: But he won't get it fixed. Because if he gets
• 42:36
  it fixed, he can't fight for like a year. And
• 42:39
  he just wants to keep on trucking.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: That dude's a freak.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: If I was his friend, I would say, dude, you
• 42:47
  got a lot of money. You're a world champion. Fix
• 42:50
  the nose. Let's fix it. Let's take a year off.
• 42:52
  Come back and fuck these motherfuckers up. Because if that
• 42:55
  guy's got a fixed nose, he's got 10% more cardio.
• 42:58
  Are you crazy? That guy with 10% more cardio, that's
• 43:01
  an extra weapon. I would get it fixed. But the
• 43:05
  problem is if he gets it fixed and then he
• 43:07
  fights a guy like Holloway and he gets jumped and
• 43:09
  spinning back kicked to the nose in the first round
• 43:11
  and shattered again, then he's kind of fucked. Because if
• 43:15
  they have to fix it again, then they might have
• 43:16
  to start taking pieces of your rib out and reconstructing
• 43:20
  your nose and grafting bone and doing weird shit. And
• 43:24
  then sometimes that shit doesn't take. And sometimes it gets infected.
• 43:28
  And then you have a bone infection on your face.
• 43:31
  And what do they do then? Do they have to
• 43:32
  remove your nose? Is that what they have to do? Fuck. God.
• 43:36
  Scary shit, man.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Very much so.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: These fucking dudes, man. That is a crazy job to
• 43:42
  risk your life, risk your health, risk your bones. You're
• 43:46
  making a living by trying to damage another person who's
• 43:49
  trying to damage you. Nuts. But it's also why it's
• 43:53
  the most exciting shit in the world to watch. Exactly.
• 43:56
  So exciting. Yeah. Even boxing as, you know, tamed in
• 44:02
  comparison to MMA because there's less weapons and less options.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: A lot more padding.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You don't get the chokeouts, the crazy chokeouts. There
• 44:11
  was a crazy chokeout this weekend. His name is Ruzaboyev
• 44:15
  and he fought, God, how do I say his last name?
• 44:19
  He fought this Russian cat and got him, Russian or Ukrainian?
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Russian.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: I forget. But he got him in a rear naked
• 44:25
  choke and put him to sleep. And it was one
• 44:27
  of those ones where the guy looks dead. He's like
• 44:29
  lying there. I mean, it was a fucking nasty choke, man.
• 44:32
  And yeah. Oh, yeah. I saw that. It was dark, dude.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: It's another meme out this week along with the WMB
• 44:40
  girl pointing.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: That's his name. Bro, it was nuts.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: The memes on these things are nuts nowadays.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: The internet is undefeated.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's crazy.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: They're so good at memes.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Oh, man.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: There's so many people out there working jobs that they hate,
• 44:54
  that are smart and funny.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: We were talking about it the other day, but have
• 45:00
  you caught up with any of those WNBA, what's her name,
• 45:03
  the girl that's pointing?
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Sophie Cunningham.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been paying attention very little, but one of
• 45:08
  the things that I did watch is all the fouls. Like,
• 45:17
  these bitches throw each other to the ground. And they
• 45:21
  poke each other in the eyes. Like, they do this.
• 45:24
  They literally jab each other in the eyes. It's crazy. Like,
• 45:28
  they foul. And also, they travel so much.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's crazy.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: They take, like, four or five steps, and then no
• 45:34
  one calls them on it. Oh, yeah.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Double dribble.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Is there a trend now to not call traveling?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, without a doubt. In the actual NBA, it's a thing, too. Yeah.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: It's hard to get into this without going way into
• 45:50
  the weeds, but the NBA has a technically different rule
• 45:53
  than college and high school and everyone else. They call
• 45:56
  it a gather step, and they definitely would call it
• 45:58
  in high school. But they work all day manipulating it
• 46:02
  with the referee, watching them, saying, like, you can do that,
• 46:04
  but you can't do that. You can do this, but
• 46:06
  you can't do that. And so they've got it to
• 46:08
  a place where everything they're doing looks like traveling and
• 46:11
  double dribbles, but guys will break it down in slow-mo,
• 46:13
  and you'll be like, well, technically it's not.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: That's weird. I always thought if you took a step,
• 46:18
  you had to bounce the ball.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: That's how it should be.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: You're allowed to.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: But doesn't it seem like that should be how it is? Totally.
• 46:25
  When you see guys taking four steps, you're like, what's
• 46:27
  going on? Do you want to see exciting basketball or not? Yeah.
• 46:31
  I do. All right.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Well, then let the referees call the game how they
• 46:34
  call it.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: But I think there's something exciting about you having to
• 46:37
  bounce that ball because you won't be able to score
• 46:39
  as much.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: If you have to bounce it every two steps, whatever
• 46:45
  it is.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I wish I loved the NBA like I did when
• 46:47
  I was a kid and fucking Barkley and Jordan and
• 46:51
  Ewing and all these people were physical. It is just
• 46:54
  a whole different game now.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: So back then, was it traveling like when the Larry
• 47:00
  Bird days?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Unless Jordan talked to the ref and said, yo,
• 47:04
  you're wrong. Let me do what I want.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Jordan had the cheat code where he would leap from
• 47:08
  the fucking free throw line. That is so when I've
• 47:12
  watched videos that it doesn't even look real. He was
• 47:16
  such an amazing athlete. He was so good and so
• 47:19
  possessed by his desire to win. He would do things
• 47:23
  that you would just go, how does a person fly? Dude,
• 47:28
  imagine if he was like one of those jumpers, those
• 47:31
  long distance jumpers. He'd probably have an insane jump because
• 47:35
  he's going from the free throw line in the air.
• 47:38
  That's crazy.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Everything he did was crazy. The way he did things,
• 47:43
  the way he practiced everything.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and did he not make his college team? No.
• 47:49
  High school team?
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: No.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Wasn't there like one year?
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: When he was a freshman, he didn't make the varsity team.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, most freshmen don't.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Perfect. May have changed basketball history forever.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Most freshmen don't. That doesn't make sense because they're not
• 48:03
  even developed yet. Yeah, if you're playing varsity. I know
• 48:05
  kids in Texas that keep their kids back a year. Wow.
• 48:09
  They want their kid to be bigger. I want Billy
• 48:11
  to be the biggest freshman. I want him to be
• 48:14
  a 15-year-old freshman. We're pushing for right before his 15th birthday. Like, hey,
• 48:18
  15 is a sophomore. Billy's a fucking cheater. Why are
• 48:22
  you sandbagging Billy? That doesn't bother me nearly as much
• 48:27
  in a sport like football where I see what you're doing.
• 48:30
  Like you're preparing a kid for a professional future perhaps,
• 48:34
  especially in Texas. They're very into it down here. But
• 48:36
  if it's a wrestling, it's like, hey.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Hey, there's fucking no money in this. Right. And that
• 48:42
  kid's 16 and he's in the ninth grade. Yeah.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah. It's nuts.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: How old is the oldest that a kid can be
• 48:51
  and compete in high school sports? Jamie? Please put that
• 48:58
  into our sponsor, Perplexity. Let's find out. I wonder if
• 49:01
  it varies by sport.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Definitely by sport and by state.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: Interesting.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Interesting. Do they all have a cap at 18? Or
• 49:11
  do they allow you to compete at 19? Yeah, there's
• 49:13
  going to be a.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: But before I even hit enter, I know it's going
• 49:15
  to say something about, like, your graduating class can't be
• 49:19
  out maybe more than... like two years or something like
• 49:21
  that because you got held back or you had an
• 49:23
  injury or something like that.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: Boy, I remember from my days of being like 17
• 49:28
  and 18, the difference between 17 and 19 was huge. Oh, yeah.
• 49:32
  It's a big difference. Fuck, yeah. By the time you're 19,
• 49:35
  you're basically man strength. You know, 17, I was like
• 49:39
  a boy still.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: You know, like, I was flimsy. 17, I was like
• 49:44
  a flimsy kid. By the time I was 19, it's
• 49:46
  a different animal. You've got two more years of training
• 49:49
  and testosterone in you. Yeah. If you're a wrestler, that's
• 49:52
  got to be a huge advantage.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Everything in wrestling is a huge advantage. Starting one year
• 49:59
  earlier is huge.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Huge huge advantage yeah 19 based off of certain.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Oh bro that's so rude making 19 year olds wrestle
• 50:07
  against like possibly 15 year olds is crazy right so
• 50:11
  if you are like in a certain weight class that's
• 50:14
  not strong like i wasn't a good wrestler i was
• 50:17
  a pretty good wrestler but i started i was on
• 50:19
  the varsity team at my high school and uh Like
• 50:23
  one year I didn't even cut weight or one weight
• 50:26
  class I didn't cut. There was a guy that was
• 50:28
  below me at like 126 or 128, and he was
• 50:32
  better than me. And so the next available weight class
• 50:35
  was 134, which is– that's what I normally weighed when
• 50:38
  I was 15. So I just wrestled at 134. That's lovely. Yeah.
• 50:42
  But I could have been in there with a 19-year-old
• 50:45
  fucking animal who weighs $ 1. 60– And drives himself out briefly
• 50:50
  to hit 134. And there was guys like that, man.
• 50:53
  You would see them at like the States. And you go,
• 50:55
  what the fuck? Yeah. And they were going to camps.
• 50:58
  So they were wrestling 365 days a year. All year long.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: I just started. I didn't know anything.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Same. I started as a freshman in high school and
• 51:06
  got fucked up.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't even start as a freshman. I started as
• 51:09
  a sophomore. I started as a sophomore because some kid
• 51:13
  kicked my ass in the locker room. Some kid grabbed
• 51:15
  me in a headlock and threw me to the ground
• 51:17
  and didn't punch me. He could have punched me, decided
• 51:19
  not to, but I was so humiliated. I was like, oh,
• 51:22
  my God, I need to learn how to wrestle. And
• 51:24
  then I also wrestled in the park, like in the
• 51:27
  grass with my friend Steven. And I thought I'd be
• 51:29
  able– I was a good athlete. I was doing karate.
• 51:31
  I was like, he can't take me down. He took
• 51:32
  me down instantly. I was like, oh, no, this is terrible.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a whole different beast.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: It's also like how tired you get. I remember thinking,
• 51:42
  I used to think that I had worked out before
• 51:44
  that because I had taken karate classes and done some Taekwondo.
• 51:47
  I thought I'd worked out. You don't even know what
• 51:49
  working out is until you go through a wrestling practice.
• 51:52
  You're like, we're running stairs? What? What? We're carrying guys
• 51:56
  around the wrestling room? You pick up your partner, your
• 51:59
  training partner, you have the firemen carry them around the
• 52:02
  fucking room? Oh, Jesus Christ. Then you're doing push-ups and
• 52:05
  sit-ups until you puke. And then you're doing live drills. Fuck.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Non-stop.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Animals yeah we would rotate uh you know there's all
• 52:15
  those different weight classes and just for shits and giggles
• 52:18
  you know one of the drills was you know escape
• 52:21
  from the next guy all right beep whistle blows escape
• 52:24
  you're on bottom you have to get out the next
• 52:26
  guy so sometimes i at a 103 weight class i
• 52:31
  would have hugh frost who was i think 235 245
• 52:33
  250 oh yeah just for one drill And it's a
• 52:39
  fucking joke. It's a pancake. And he would probably he
• 52:42
  was probably showing mercy at the time, obviously, but not really,
• 52:45
  because he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to let
• 52:47
  this little fucking shithead 103 out from under him. So he's,
• 52:51
  you know, putting enough pressure to keep everybody there. Not
• 52:55
  to mention the 165 freak of nature made of muscle
• 52:58
  and the 185, you know, it's just a drill. But whoo.
• 53:02
  Reality hits hard. That's how you see the difference between
• 53:05
  15 and 17 and all that.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: And someone who actually really knows how to wrestle. Just
• 53:10
  wrestler strength. I always tell people, if you want to
• 53:14
  look at MMA, what is the most important skill? The
• 53:17
  foundation is wrestling. The foundation. If you wanted your kid
• 53:21
  to be a badass fighter, you're like, my kid really
• 53:24
  loves fighting. He thinks he wants to do it, but
• 53:25
  I want to prepare him right, which I do. Teach
• 53:27
  him how to wrestle. Get that kid into a really
• 53:30
  good wrestling program. Because if you have advanced wrestling, you
• 53:34
  look at how it shuts down so many fighters. Like,
• 53:36
  look at what Hamzat did to Drekus Duplicy. Hamzat, he
• 53:41
  just ragdolled him. His wrestling is at such a high level.
• 53:45
  And Drekus, who was a world champion, couldn't do shit
• 53:47
  to stop it. He just dragged him to the ground
• 53:49
  any time he wanted to. Got him in a crucifix
• 53:51
  like three times.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Marab against O'Malley.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: We're watching a guy that does a no-look right-hand knockout
• 54:01
  punch into a salute, no look at his opponent, right?
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: Get.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just impossible. It appears impossible in every
• 54:12
  Khabib fight. The thing I always think about first when
• 54:15
  I think about Khabib fighting is him being on top
• 54:18
  and having his feet under the other dude's feet, which
• 54:21
  is just... That's it. It's the final level when you
• 54:25
  can't even begin... The process of posturing out in any way.
• 54:31
  You are nothing. You are a tissue in an octagon
• 54:34
  with a man.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: And he's wailing on your face. He's wailing on your
• 54:37
  face and he has your legs triangled underneath his legs.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: It's always funny when UFC or when casual UFC fans
• 54:47
  don't understand those little things like that. That aren't even
• 54:50
  part of the fight. They're looking up here waiting to
• 54:53
  see if the punches are going to rain down.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, here it is.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: But the positioning... Of his feet is what I'm always
• 54:59
  looking at and how scary it can be here. He's
• 55:03
  not even doing.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: It right now.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: He's hell on top of people. He is right here.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: But that leg being thrown is torture.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: It's all the weight.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Nothing you can do. There's just nowhere to go. And
• 55:13
  all that weight on those hips, people don't realize. I
• 55:17
  notice immediately if I ever see somebody that's kind of
• 55:20
  on top and their knees are on the ground. Like,
• 55:22
  if you look, his right knee isn't on the ground.
• 55:25
  It looks like it might be.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: And look how he keeps slamming those left hands into
• 55:29
  Johnson's head. I mean, he got hit with, like, 15,
• 55:32
  20 unanswered full-force left-hand blows.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: He was holding his arms so he can't move.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: Bro, he's horrible. He was horrible. So good. Khabib was
• 55:40
  so good. And he would do this to world-class fighters, man. And,
• 55:43
  by the way, Johnson clipped him in that fight, too.
• 55:45
  It was one of the few times in his career
• 55:47
  where he got clipped. Yeah, man.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: One that looked really frustrated.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Who's the one that looks super frustrated in that?
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Barboza? I'm just asking. I don't remember who it was.
• 55:57
  Barboza was one of them. But, I mean, a lot
• 55:59
  of guys I fought Khabib look frustrated because there's not
• 56:01
  a damn thing they could do. Nope. Barboza was, like,
• 56:03
  early in the first round. He had that 1,000-yard stare.
• 56:06
  It was like, fuck. Like, I have to go through
• 56:08
  three rounds of this where they just give up on
• 56:10
  the idea that they could even win. Yeah. Like, all
• 56:12
  you're doing is trying to survive. Yeah. He was a monster, dude. Like, that.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: His leg being trapped inside. Is nuts. And look how
• 56:21
  he's scooting with it.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: And he's just slamming punches. And when you get up,
• 56:25
  he's just chasing you. But if you get up, he's
• 56:29
  going to fucking chase you and drag you to the
• 56:31
  ground again. So you blew all that energy to get up.
• 56:34
  The moment you try to punch or throw a kick,
• 56:36
  he's on you. You're on your back again. Punch to
• 56:39
  the face. Punch to the face. Wrestling's giant. It is
• 56:43
  the biggest skill. Yeah. You have to know how to
• 56:46
  do everything else too nowadays because all these kids that
• 56:49
  you see in the contender series, these young guys coming up, man,
• 56:52
  they're all so fucking talented. He tried to wheel kick them.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: And really more than anything, I feel like being out
• 57:01
  wrestled and being just trapped on the ground is so
• 57:04
  psychologically demoralizing when you've been training for a UFC fight
• 57:08
  and the crowd is out there and the lights are
• 57:10
  on you and you see the logos on the mat
• 57:12
  because you're facing it.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: Back that up a little bit. Let me show you
• 57:14
  something here, too. What's interesting here, before that, before the clinch,
• 57:18
  so after he throws the wheel kick, like Barbosa's trying
• 57:21
  to win, right? This is the third round. He's trying
• 57:24
  to win, and he throws this wide. But look, no,
• 57:26
  go before that. When he throws the kick, here it is.
• 57:30
  So he throws the kick and misses. He's so tired
• 57:32
  now that when Khabib moves for him, he clinches. Look,
• 57:36
  he instigated the clinch. Instead of pushing away, instead of
• 57:39
  circling to his left, he clenched because he's so tired, dude.
• 57:43
  He's so tired. And this dude just, look at that face.
• 57:46
  He just drags him down to the ground again. It's
• 57:49
  just hell.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Two on one on that arm underneath him. Legs being
• 57:53
  thrown in. He doesn't know what to do with his legs.
• 57:55
  He actually just put his foot above Khabib because it's
• 57:58
  so confusing. All that weight on you. You don't know
• 58:02
  where to even begin to start getting up.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Well, the first thing he's got to do is get
• 58:06
  that left leg free, and he's not going to.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: That was the part before the crawling thing.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: He was a monster. He was a monster. And retired undefeated.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And there's something to being on that mat, not
• 58:18
  being able to move, knowing that the clock is ticking,
• 58:21
  and this is not how you picture this going.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: Not only that, this is with the current rules, where
• 58:27
  I think— There should be no stand-ups. I think the
• 58:30
  only time there should be a stand-up is when there's
• 58:32
  a foul.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree with you. I hate it when
• 58:35
  they stand people up.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Even if it's boring. I get it's boring, but the
• 58:38
  guy can't get up, and this guy's holding him down.
• 58:40
  So he's winning. He's winning. See, I know he's not
• 58:43
  doing enough. What does that mean? He's biding his time.
• 58:47
  You've got to let a guy have strategy. Like when
• 58:50
  Muhammad Ali did rope-a-dope against George Foreman. Imagine if the
• 58:54
  referee's like, you've got to punch back. If you don't
• 58:56
  punch back, no, he's got a strategy. Strategy is let
• 58:59
  George Foreman burn himself out and then eventually tee off
• 59:02
  on him, and that's what he did. Yeah.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: It stinks that referees can let the crowd get in
• 59:07
  their head.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Well, it's the organization. wants action too. The fans want action.
• 59:13
  A lot of people disagree with me. And I understand
• 59:15
  their point. I understand their point. Especially if you're a casual.
• 59:18
  A kid's gay. Get him up. Make him fight. You
• 59:21
  don't want to fight. You want to hug. Boo. Right.
• 59:25
  So what? So what? This is the sport. And if
• 59:27
  that guy who's on top, who's biding his time and recovering,
• 59:31
  then decides, okay, now's the time. Let me start dropping
• 59:34
  some bombs because I've recovered.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: Good. Well, he held the position and he recovered his
• 59:41
  energy and now he's winning. Like, let him fucking fight.
• 59:44
  Let him fight. Get out of there. Get out of there. Yep.
• 59:48
  There shouldn't be stand-ups.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: And I get it. The referee gets that cheer from
• 59:52
  the crowd.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: You know, it feels rewarding. That said, sometimes when they
• 59:55
  stand fights up, I get excited.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: I go, yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: That striker has a chance.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: But my position is still the same. I don't think
• 1:00:03
  they should stand him up. I'm worse than that. I
• 1:00:05
  think they should start each round where they lost the
• 1:00:08
  last round.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. That's great. So every round, why do you get
• 1:00:12
  to stand up? Why do you get that advantage? The
• 1:00:14
  striker gets of standing up when you didn't earn it.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Get back down there. Yeah. Get back down there. Crucifix.
• 1:00:20
  Why'd you have to start the round off in a crucifix? Yeah.
• 1:00:23
  That's how the round ended. They look at the big screen,
• 1:00:26
  get a freeze frame of the position. Referee sets you
• 1:00:29
  in the exact position and says, ready? Fight. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Fuck off.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: That's what the sport is supposed to be. And sometimes
• 1:00:39
  it's going to be boring. Yeah. But that's real, though.
• 1:00:42
  At least it's real. Because there's been a lot of
• 1:00:44
  fights where the guy got taken down in the first round,
• 1:00:47
  starts out the second round and blasts the guy and
• 1:00:48
  knocks him out. And it's like, okay, it's exciting to watch,
• 1:00:52
  but he didn't earn that position. He just got that
• 1:00:54
  position because the other guy survived the first round. And
• 1:00:57
  so it's like it's one fight. It's not five fights. Right.
• 1:01:01
  So I think it should be one continuous fight with
• 1:01:03
  a one-minute break in each round.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be like if the team losing automatically got
• 1:01:08
  the kickoff after halftime or something like that.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, guaranteed, if I was running the UFC,
• 1:01:15
  I'd probably go bankrupt.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not the right guy. I don't know.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: What the fuck I'm talking about. I'd be a terrible promoter.
• 1:01:23
  I'd be too honest about stuff, and I'd want to
• 1:01:24
  give people fights that maybe they weren't the most exciting fighters,
• 1:01:28
  but they were above the other person in the rankings.
• 1:01:31
  I think the rankings should be the whole reason why
• 1:01:34
  you make fights.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Sami Zayn won the Universal WWE Championship over this weekend
• 1:01:40
  at a big pay-per-view.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: I have no idea who that is, but I'm happy
• 1:01:43
  for him.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Shocked Cody Rhodes. He was like a guaranteed win.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: I wonder what happened.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Rolled him up real quick.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: Do you think maybe that was fixed?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Well, it was very entertaining. Very entertaining.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it was. I just don't understand how you
• 1:01:59
  go back and forth.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's the best.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: I know you love it.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Well, sometimes. That's what I said about this White House card,
• 1:02:06
  by the way, is like there's nothing that could have
• 1:02:10
  happened that they could have written if it was written
• 1:02:15
  that would have made it more exciting.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: It felt real the whole time. And the fights that
• 1:02:20
  happened before made it feel like anything could happen in
• 1:02:23
  that main event. Like it just felt raw and real,
• 1:02:27
  but also storyline, which then when UFC is at its
• 1:02:31
  best like that, it's like the WWE. That's what's interesting.
• 1:02:36
  Of course, It's not as acrobatic.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: Well, it's not scripted.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: But it was a special moment. Regardless of how you
• 1:02:47
  feel politically, and I understand it. If you hate the
• 1:02:51
  Republicans and you hate the whole idea, I get it.
• 1:02:54
  But just as a person who loves a sport, it
• 1:02:57
  was a very unusual experience. Very unusual. And just– I
• 1:03:02
  think people have to just look at some things that way.
• 1:03:05
  Some people have a really hard time separating themselves politically
• 1:03:07
  because they're going, oh, no, the White House puts on
• 1:03:10
  this thing. There's all this bad press because of the war.
• 1:03:13
  There's bad press because of this and that. They put
• 1:03:16
  on this thing at the White House and it sort
• 1:03:17
  of like MAGA washes everything. You know what I mean?
• 1:03:21
  Makes everybody like them again. Gives them positive press, which undeniable.
• 1:03:26
  Undeniable it gave them positive press. I mean the amount
• 1:03:30
  of people that have seen it is nuts. I think
• 1:03:33
  just on Paramount, it's something like 30-something million now. And
• 1:03:37
  they were telling me that they thought it was probably
• 1:03:39
  150 million people had watched it in some form, which
• 1:03:44
  was TikTok clips, Instagram, YouTube. That is a nutty number, man.
• 1:03:50
  And I think Dana and Hunter, they were thinking it
• 1:03:52
  could get to like a billion people see it, which
• 1:03:55
  is just nuts in some form. Highlight reels, clips. I mean,
• 1:04:00
  just the Gaethje fight alone, just the highlight reels, how
• 1:04:02
  many people watch those on Instagram and TikTok? Totally. The
• 1:04:06
  awareness of the event of the moment was so huge.
• 1:04:09
  It was like nothing else. It didn't feel like any
• 1:04:12
  other event we'd ever been. I was nervous before it started.
• 1:04:16
  I never get nervous for the UFC. I get excited,
• 1:04:18
  but I was legitimately nervous. I was feeling a little like,
• 1:04:22
  this is crazy. We're on the White House lawn? Nuts.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: The flyover is when it really hit.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, when they had all those jets together and
• 1:04:30
  they were so close to each other. Yeah. Like imagine
• 1:04:32
  if one of those fucking clips into their wing and
• 1:04:34
  spirals right into the ellipse.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Crazy. What a spectacle.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah. They would have definitely canceled the fights. Because they
• 1:04:44
  canceled the White House Correspondents Dinner because of that assassination attempt.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: God damn it.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, you had a bunch of bangers on that I heard.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: So annoying. I was more excited for that than like
• 1:04:55
  anything else.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: How did they just cancel it? Why didn't they reschedule it?
• 1:04:59
  Maybe they're going to wait until the ballroom is finished.
• 1:05:02
  Because that's the argument for the ballroom, that they could
• 1:05:04
  have it at a place like that where it's completely secured. Yeah.
• 1:05:08
  Kurt Massacre thinks the whole thing is fake. Oh, another
• 1:05:12
  fake assassination attempt? Yeah. How'd that guy get in there?
• 1:05:16
  I think some people are just incompetent. There's incompetence. There's
• 1:05:20
  bad security. There's people that don't do their job. There's
• 1:05:24
  also people that you didn't expect to be a problem
• 1:05:26
  and were a problem. And you're in a hotel.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Also, the guy made it to the first level of
• 1:05:34
  the first scanning of security. It's not like he made
• 1:05:38
  it into the thing.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: But he did shoot somebody, right? I think he shot
• 1:05:42
  one of the Secret Service agents in his bulletproof vest. Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  Is that true, Jamie?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: There were so many stories online. It's so hard to know.
• 1:05:51
  What was true and what was not. But I think
• 1:05:53
  the guy was a teacher. Like a substitute teacher.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: Nuts.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: It's all nuts.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: And it's like, man, you didn't think this out?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: I rescheduled it for July 24th.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. Oh, okay.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: The Correspondence Dinner?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: Wow. It's on.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: It's on.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: You might want to polish up some of them bits. Yeah.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: It's going to be some new stuff.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Go back and tag some of them with some current events.
• 1:06:16
  Where are they going to have it? Oh, sorry.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I started a.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: If they have it at the same spot, that's not smart.
• 1:06:25
  New event held July 24th.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: It's not saying where.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Is it the Pentagon?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: They might wait. They might wait to release that.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not saying.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, Waldorf Astoria.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. Well, I guarantee you they'll tighten that bitch
• 1:06:47
  up a little bit.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: No, he was excited to do the jokes.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, he was very pumped. Yeah.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: They were bangers. I ran them because the thing happened.
• 1:07:00
  I happened to be performing at the Kennedy Center the
• 1:07:04
  next weekend. So I ran the jokes and I realized
• 1:07:09
  that I had Adam Ray as a special guest that
• 1:07:12
  was on before me. He brought me on stage. So
• 1:07:16
  I go, you know what? I wrote jokes for the
• 1:07:19
  president of the united states to make fun of the
• 1:07:21
  press and everybody at the white house correspondence dinner but
• 1:07:23
  i just realized adam's here adam you want to come
• 1:07:25
  out and read these in trump's voice and so he
• 1:07:28
  was seeing the jokes for the first time and reading
• 1:07:32
  them and we had so much fun.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: I didn't know he does a Trump, which doesn't surprise me.
• 1:07:36
  I mean, his impressions are insane.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: He can do anything.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: He can do anything.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: He didn't even he did. He was dabbling in a
• 1:07:42
  Biden the week that I hit him up to do
• 1:07:45
  Trump Biden, which I think is a fucking guy. I
• 1:07:48
  think it's like 40 million or seven, some crazy amount.
• 1:07:52
  And again, just like the UFC, God only knows after clips.
• 1:07:56
  But it was a monumental comedy fucking moment having Shane.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: Is Trump right before the election.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Adam is Biden right after. before the election right after
• 1:08:04
  their first debate where Biden was clearly fucking zonked and
• 1:08:08
  sleepy and just couldn't compete at all. And so I
• 1:08:13
  hit up Adam via text. I'm like, do you have
• 1:08:15
  a Biden? He's like, I cover it for five seconds
• 1:08:19
  in my standup. I'm like, are you free on Monday
• 1:08:24
  to fly to Austin and do Biden if I can
• 1:08:26
  get Shane as Trump? And I remember telling Shane, I
• 1:08:30
  was like, I'm like, this is going to be an
• 1:08:31
  interesting ask. Uh, but I, you know, I'm just like, Hey,
• 1:08:36
  Adam's got a Biden. And Shane's like, I have something
• 1:08:38
  to do on Monday. I'm canceling it. I'm doing Trump.
• 1:08:41
  He immediately saw the brilliance. It was just such a
• 1:08:44
  hot topic at the time. And my God, it was
• 1:08:47
  fucking crazy. There's clips that I see of that episode
• 1:08:51
  and I never rewatch kill Tony's or anything. I'll see
• 1:08:54
  clips sometimes. And I literally go, Oh my God, holy
• 1:08:58
  fucking shit. There's one part. where Trump goes, how many
• 1:09:01
  more retards are you going to bring out here? Because
• 1:09:04
  there've been like two handicapped people on this show.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: How many more retards you have come as I'm pulling
• 1:09:10
  a name out of the bucket in real time? I go,
• 1:09:12
  anything can happen, Mr.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: President.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Let's see what the next guy's like. And he comes
• 1:09:17
  out and he has like these weird deformed penguin arms.
• 1:09:20
  And you see Shane as Trump and the crowd's dying
• 1:09:24
  because they see him first. And you see Shane as
• 1:09:27
  Trump look and go, fuck. It's just one of his.
• 1:09:32
  His facial reactions to things are like his greatest secret
• 1:09:35
  fucking hilarious weapon. And when he's Trump, it's even amplified.
• 1:09:40
  It's like, in my opinion, 10 or 20 percent funnier
• 1:09:43
  than even Shane is. I mean, I'm sure he'd admit
• 1:09:45
  to this and know it because Trump is just such
• 1:09:47
  an interesting, polarizing character. And his take on him is
• 1:09:50
  so fucking funny. It's psychotic.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: His impression is so good. It's the greatest Trump impression
• 1:09:55
  of all time because it's like the jokes are so good.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, by far.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: He's so good. What's funny, Jim? I found the part.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: It's so epic.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: Back it up a little bit.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Another fun appearance by True Nickens.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: This is the best. All right. Tony, how many more
• 1:10:14
  retarded guys do you have back here?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Anything can happen.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: This crowd is hungry for more retarded guys. Frankly, I
• 1:10:21
  don't think we've seen enough retarded guys. How about a
• 1:10:23
  retarded racist? Would you like to say that?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: This next person could be one. I pulled it out
• 1:10:29
  of the bucket. It is the Kill Tony debut, I
• 1:10:32
  do believe, of Jacob Barr, everybody.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: Jacob Barr. Oh, my God. Thank you. Well, well, well. Oh,
• 1:10:44
  my God. Careful what you win for. Okay, hold on.
• 1:10:49
  We're going to.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Reset this, Jacob. What's funny is Adam knows better than
• 1:10:55
  anybody that you're not supposed to say anything after the
• 1:10:58
  bucket bowl comes up. So me grabbing the mic out
• 1:11:01
  of his hand and putting it down is even another
• 1:11:04
  layer of hilarious to all of us. It's like Biden's misbehaving.
• 1:11:07
  I don't know. Did you see Shane's face when he
• 1:11:11
  notices his hands?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: This is it.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 7: Look.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 1:11:21
  He's our Jackie Gleason.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: That's what it is.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Plus, plus, man.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: He's the great one of our generation.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: What people don't realize, I mean, obviously, is that. He
• 1:11:33
  is that funny all the fucking time.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: All the time. When we're hanging out in the green room.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Every bar, every restaurant, every green room, every stairway, fucking anywhere, everything. He,
• 1:11:48
  I always compare it to Mike Tyson in his prime.
• 1:11:50
  He just hits harder and different doing the smallest little things.
• 1:11:54
  Even if it's a face, if somebody says something and
• 1:11:56
  he just like reacts to it, it's crazy.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: It's also always fun. He's a fun guy. Like he
• 1:12:01
  wants to have fun. Like, even when he's cracking jokes,
• 1:12:05
  it's fun. I know he was very reluctant to do
• 1:12:07
  the roast. You know, he was a little reluctant to
• 1:12:10
  even host that. Like, I don't want to do those things. Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  You know, but.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Well, everything is, you know, everything could be something. He
• 1:12:19
  crushed so hard. It caused a real ruckus. Him and
• 1:12:23
  I end capping that thing. You know what I mean?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: It was supposed to be a, you know, this roast
• 1:12:29
  of black excellence. And me and Shane are just fucking having.
• 1:12:33
  The time of our lives.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: Who said it was a roast of black excellence? You're
• 1:12:36
  just saying that because it was Kevin Hart?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. That's like.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like explicitly stated or anything, right? I mean...
• 1:12:44
  Because imagine if you said we're going to have a
• 1:12:46
  roast of white excellence. Right.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Oh, I know.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. It's weird. You can and can't say. Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:53
  That's weird.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: You know? Yeah.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: That's a whole thing with that. I mean, you can't
• 1:12:59
  talk about this, but you can talk about that.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: Well, it's just weird what we accept, which doesn't bother
• 1:13:05
  me at all. But like Cain Velasquez, when he fought
• 1:13:07
  in the UFC, he used to have brown pride tattooed
• 1:13:10
  on his chest. Cool. And his family came over from Mexico.
• 1:13:13
  They literally walked here. Yeah. White pride, not so popular. Right.
• 1:13:19
  White pride on your chest. Fucking Sean Strickland just decided
• 1:13:23
  to get white pride. And he posted a picture on
• 1:13:27
  Instagram of him as a world champion. With white pride
• 1:13:31
  on his chest next to Cain Velasquez as a world
• 1:13:33
  champion with brown pride on his chest. Yeah. And people
• 1:13:37
  would lose their fucking minds.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: And again, not saying that Sean would ever put white
• 1:13:44
  pride on his chest. He would. No, he would.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I follow him. He doesn't have any tattoos. I follow
• 1:13:49
  him on Twitter.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: He would.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Trust me.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: He's a wild boy. Did you see when he showed up?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: He did a temporary tattoo.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: He showed up at the UFC even though he was banned.
• 1:13:55
  He showed up and they arrested him. Yeah. He kicked
• 1:14:00
  him out. He's the world champion. There's a UFC event
• 1:14:05
  at the White House. At the time, before Justin won,
• 1:14:07
  he was the only American world champion. And they're like,
• 1:14:12
  you can't come.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: Because you talk too much shit about Israel.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: He's a wild boy.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: But that's wild that your criticism about Israel is what
• 1:14:22
  keeps you from going to the White House as a
• 1:14:25
  world champion in a world title fight at the White House.
• 1:14:30
  Like you would think you want to celebrate the American
• 1:14:33
  male world champion. I think he said some other stuff
• 1:14:36
  too though.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: There's some Epstein stuff there. Yeah. He's a wild boy. Yeah.
• 1:14:41
  I think he's– I told him when he retires from fighting,
• 1:14:44
  he 100 percent should do a podcast. And he was like,
• 1:14:46
  I've seen these guys doing these streamers and like– I go,
• 1:14:51
  you don't have to do that. You don't have to
• 1:14:53
  do it that way. He's like, I couldn't do that.
• 1:14:55
  Just sit there every day and talk to people. I'd
• 1:14:58
  lose my fucking mind. I'm like, right, but you don't
• 1:15:00
  have to do that. Just your opinions on things. He's
• 1:15:02
  an awesome podcast guest. I'm like, he could totally, totally
• 1:15:07
  do that, just talk about stuff. And also, Sean, when
• 1:15:12
  he lets the whole shtick down and just gives you
• 1:15:15
  his opinions on things, very smart guy. He's not stupid
• 1:15:18
  at all. And he would get better at it as
• 1:15:22
  he did it more. He easily could do a podcast.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's entertaining as fuck.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: I just can't believe they kicked him out of the
• 1:15:30
  White House. They kicked him out of the Ellipse, that area.
• 1:15:33
  I think there's a video of it. See if you
• 1:15:35
  can find the video of it. Sorry, guys. They got
• 1:15:38
  like fucking six cops and bulletproof vests.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there was like 85,000 people there. So
• 1:15:44
  it's funny that they're like, that one, the champion.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: It's just he wasn't supposed to be there. He's banned.
• 1:15:50
  He was not invited or whatever. But even if you're
• 1:15:53
  not invited, shouldn't you be able to go to the
• 1:15:54
  fan area? If you're the world champion? If you want
• 1:15:57
  to be that wild with no security, and there's video
• 1:16:00
  of him from the first night, from the night of
• 1:16:02
  the weigh-ins, where they found out that he was there.
• 1:16:04
  It's amazing. Because he was wearing a hoodie the entire time.
• 1:16:08
  And someone told him he's got to take off the hoodie.
• 1:16:09
  And he's like, I can't. Listen, it's going to be
• 1:16:12
  a problem. And as soon as he takes off the hoodie,
• 1:16:14
  everybody goes, let's focus. And then he's just surrounded by bros.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Hilarious.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Just getting hugged to death. Some dude asked him to
• 1:16:25
  leg kick him. So Sean leg kicked some kid. We're
• 1:16:30
  a champion. Fucking kick in some kid. What is this
• 1:16:34
  world coming to?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: There's him.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Is there audio?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: This is crazy.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: I like that we have some entertaining American people.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's the most entertaining.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: That Josh Hockett. Hockett?
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: Hockett. Hockett. Yeah.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: My God.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: That was what was hilarious was people were so upset
• 1:17:08
  that he said Michelle Obama's a man at the White House.
• 1:17:12
  It's like that's what he's doing. He's doing that on purpose.
• 1:17:15
  He's literally wearing an American flag bandana. He comes out
• 1:17:18
  to a Hulk Hogan song. He's wearing sunglasses. Yeah, it's
• 1:17:22
  not appropriate. You're right.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: But he said the exact same thing when I interviewed
• 1:17:27
  him somewhere else. Yeah. I'm pretty sure he said Michelle
• 1:17:32
  Obama's a man like last time I interviewed him.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I heard. It's not his first rodeo at
• 1:17:37
  the Michelle.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: Obama's a man. That's how he ends his interviews.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Hilarious.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: He's trying to get people to talk about him. Yep.
• 1:17:45
  You know, the whole thing is so crazy. But all
• 1:17:49
  of it would be nothing if he couldn't fight.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's where it's real exciting is the pre-fight stuff.
• 1:17:57
  I mean, the post fight interview, pretty polarizing, obviously, because
• 1:18:00
  that was the news. But if you for the real
• 1:18:04
  fans paying attention, you didn't get to see him do that.
• 1:18:07
  Did I send it to you? The kill Tony minute
• 1:18:09
  that he did at the press conference. Oh, my God.
• 1:18:12
  So funny because he's like purposefully bombing. So he's literally
• 1:18:16
  doing a joke. He says, you guys know Tony Hinchcliffe?
• 1:18:19
  I'm going to do my Kill Tony Minute. And he's purposefully, like, bombing.
• 1:18:22
  It's corny, purposeful, bad jokes. And he's going, man, tough crowd.
• 1:18:26
  All right, let me try this one. And it's like
• 1:18:29
  literally being hilarious by strategically trying to be funny but
• 1:18:36
  not being funny. You could tell that he was planning
• 1:18:38
  on nobody laughing, but that it's set up punch.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: And.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: He's just fucking trying to entertain.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: He's trolling. He's trolling. He's getting attention. And then the
• 1:18:51
  most important thing, he can fight. Yeah. That dude's good.
• 1:18:54
  He's fucking good, man. He's fast as shit. For a heavyweight,
• 1:18:58
  he's very light on his feet. Fast as shit. Fast hands. Yeah.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: So fun to watch.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: And, you know, what's interesting is he talked a lot
• 1:19:06
  of shit about Alex Pereira. And, you know, I want
• 1:19:10
  a Shama on your mama or all that crazy shit.
• 1:19:13
  Pereira losing to Cyril Gaunt. If Pereira decides to fight again,
• 1:19:17
  I don't know if he's going to fight again. He
• 1:19:19
  might be done. I think he said he might be done. But,
• 1:19:22
  I mean, a lot of fighters say that after a
• 1:19:24
  fight and especially after a loss. Yeah. Let him sit
• 1:19:26
  around for a while. Then they come up with.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: He's not done.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: They back up the Brinks truck. Get him versus Josh Hoke. Oh,
• 1:19:33
  my God. As a co-main event on a fucking banging
• 1:19:37
  New Year's Eve card. Let's go.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Hokut will be making fun of his headdress and his
• 1:19:43
  face makeup.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, it would be insane. It would be insane. But,
• 1:19:47
  you know, the thing is Hokut's got to deal with
• 1:19:48
  that guy. That's a different guy. That's not Derek Lewis.
• 1:19:52
  I mean, if he continues to fight heavyweight. It is
• 1:19:55
  interesting watching a guy who's been so dominant at 85
• 1:19:59
  and at 205 with all that extra weight on. I
• 1:20:03
  don't know if that necessarily was the right move. You know,
• 1:20:08
  I mean, I think like some weight is probably good,
• 1:20:10
  but maybe even 20 pounds lighter, like maybe 230 something.
• 1:20:14
  Maybe that would be a better weight if he really
• 1:20:15
  wants to fight at heavyweight because it seems like he
• 1:20:17
  was carrying. I mean, just, you ever work out with
• 1:20:20
  a weight vest on? Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. Like a
• 1:20:23
  25 pound weight vest. It's nuts how much harder everything is.
• 1:20:27
  So you got to realize he had fought at 185
• 1:20:30
  and he fought at 205. That was what he weighed
• 1:20:32
  in at. But let's be real. Honest, at 185, I
• 1:20:38
  think he probably weighed 220-something. 226, I think it was,
• 1:20:41
  fight night, which is nuts. That's 40 pounds difference. And
• 1:20:44
  at 205, he probably got into the 230s, like 235, 236,
• 1:20:49
  something like that. But still didn't look like he looked
• 1:20:55
  at 251. 251, he looked like he was carrying unnecessary weight,
• 1:21:00
  a little bit of it at least. And if he
• 1:21:02
  was just like 20 pounds lighter... He would still have
• 1:21:04
  that speed and movement, but he's always had crazy knockout power.
• 1:21:09
  It might be a better weight for him. It just
• 1:21:12
  seemed like it was a lot of weight he had
• 1:21:13
  on him.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: And it all went to his ass.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: His ass was giant.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Fat ass.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: Big fat ass.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: You know me. You know that's all I'm looking at.
• 1:21:21
  That's why I watch UFC. And, yeah, it was all there.
• 1:21:25
  It was like a backpack.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: Well, that's where all the power comes from. When you're
• 1:21:29
  pushing off your feet and you're pushing off those fucking quads.
• 1:21:33
  And pushing into those glutes and then torquing that body
• 1:21:35
  the way he does. Ferocious power, dude. But damn, that
• 1:21:39
  Cyril Ghosn's good.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: Woo!
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: Woo!
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: He's so good, dude. And he's in his prime right now.
• 1:21:45
  Cyril Ghosn is like really coming into his own. There's
• 1:21:48
  no heavyweight like him. No one moves like him.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say extremely accurate for a heavyweight.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: Not just accurate, agile. Because we were talking about this
• 1:21:57
  the other day, that basketball is a great place to
• 1:22:00
  start if you're a big athlete and you want to
• 1:22:02
  learn combat sports, especially striking. Because think about how many
• 1:22:07
  direction changes basketball players take, where they're always kind of
• 1:22:10
  doing that. They're always spinning and moving. It's a series
• 1:22:13
  of plyometrics. It's a series of hops and jumps. Like
• 1:22:16
  Jordan's jump. Imagine if Jordan had a flying knee. Right.
• 1:22:21
  He's hitting you with a flying knee from 14 feet away.
• 1:22:25
  What do you got? What's that?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, serial guns. Yeah. So he started out playing basketball.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: At least where I come from, basketball season and wrestling
• 1:22:39
  season are at the same time. So I wonder what
• 1:22:43
  he was doing back then.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: Well, he's in France, right? So France does not have
• 1:22:46
  wrestling in their high school or in their college. And
• 1:22:50
  he learned wrestling after he had become a really elite
• 1:22:54
  world-class Muay Thai fighter. So he's got... The grappling has
• 1:22:59
  come up in big ways. His grappling is much better
• 1:23:02
  than it used to be. But really, primarily, he's a striker.
• 1:23:05
  And when John fought him, John just got him to
• 1:23:08
  the ground and submitted him quickly. I think that fight
• 1:23:12
  was kind of a big-ass wake-up call. And Francis beat him, too.
• 1:23:15
  So Francis beat him by just... Francis just got a
• 1:23:19
  hold of him, and most of the fight was on
• 1:23:21
  the ground, a giant chunk of it, because Francis fought
• 1:23:24
  that fight with a blown-out ACL.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: Defended his world title with a blown-out ACL. Crazy. Had
• 1:23:30
  big-ass knee pads on.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: Oof.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: I know, wobbly-ass knee, but that's how dangerous Francis is.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: He could just win it with grappling. It's a shame
• 1:23:40
  that he's not in the UFC. It's a real shame. Yeah. Because, like,
• 1:23:44
  that whole thing was what drove everyone crazy about boxing.
• 1:23:49
  that it was really hard to get these guys together.
• 1:23:51
  And this was the whole idea, why everybody was excited
• 1:23:54
  about what Riyadh season was doing. And Turkey Al-Sheikh and
• 1:23:59
  all those people that put together these big-ass fights, like
• 1:24:03
  Tyson Fury and Aleksandr Usyk. And the last one they
• 1:24:07
  just did, Rico Verhoeven and Usyk. They're putting together these big,
• 1:24:10
  crazy fights. That was the thing that drove everybody nuts
• 1:24:15
  about boxing. And that's what drives everybody nuts about MMA.
• 1:24:18
  The one thing is it's the heavyweight division. The fact
• 1:24:21
  that the best heavyweight, or at least the guy who
• 1:24:23
  was the lineal heavyweight champion in the world, isn't even
• 1:24:26
  fighting for the UFC. That's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: Who knows? Maybe one day, right?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: Nope. Nope. I don't think so. I tried to make
• 1:24:34
  it happen. Damn. I think we need to get those
• 1:24:36
  dudes together. Look at that. Look at Cyril Gunn dunking.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: I know. See, that kind of ability to throw your
• 1:24:44
  body around like that is so huge as a striker.
• 1:24:47
  Because a lot of those guys are plotting. You know,
• 1:24:49
  they're plotters. They just kind of like wobble through. I
• 1:24:53
  think what they need to do is get Francis and
• 1:24:55
  the UFC together. They all do mushrooms. Yeah. Just like
• 1:24:58
  make friends. Yeah. Because he doesn't have much time left.
• 1:25:01
  I think Francis is 38. Is that how old he is?
• 1:25:06
  I think he's 38. Which is different as a heavyweight.
• 1:25:09
  Heavyweights have interns 40 in September. Whoa. Not much time left. Right. 40,
• 1:25:15
  you can do. But unless you're Bernard Hopkins fighting at
• 1:25:18
  a world-class level in your 40s, kind of unheard of.
• 1:25:21
  I remember when Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik, a lot
• 1:25:27
  of people did not think that he had a chance.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I remember that very clearly.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: And he outboxed the.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Fuck out of Kelly Pavlik.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: He looked so good.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Truly the executioner.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: I want to say he was in his 40s when
• 1:25:39
  that happened.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: How old was Bernard Hopkins when he fought Kelly Pavlik?
• 1:25:46
  He fought at a world-class level until he's 50 years old. Yeah.
• 1:25:49
  It's nuts. Yeah. Nuts.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: We were all watching that one. Everybody from Youngstown going,
• 1:25:54
  all right, this is it. We're going to get back
• 1:25:55
  on the right path because it was after his loss
• 1:25:58
  to Margarito. Is that right? It's the guy that got
• 1:26:03
  caught with the cement in his gloves against the one guy.
• 1:26:05
  Antonio Margarito.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: I do believe.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: 43. Wow.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: He was 43 years old.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: Wow. Crazy. Against a 26-year-old.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: Crazy.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: Especially at 170 pounds. Nobody thinks at that weight that
• 1:26:23
  you can be competitive at a world-class level into your 40s.
• 1:26:28
  Most of the time. People just write you off on
• 1:26:30
  that number. They don't even care what you look like.
• 1:26:32
  He's not going to be able to do it.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Was he the first one to beat Kelly? Is that
• 1:26:35
  what I just saw? Wow. Okay. So he lost to
• 1:26:39
  him and that's where shit started to get fucked up.
• 1:26:42
  Because then he went on a A bad run after that.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: Well, when you got beat up like that, it's just
• 1:26:48
  tough on the brain, dude. There's only so many of
• 1:26:50
  them fights that you could take where you get really
• 1:26:54
  beat up like that. Bernard put it on him. You know,
• 1:26:57
  there's been a bunch of fights where a fighter got
• 1:27:00
  beat up really badly and then they were never the
• 1:27:02
  same again. Meldrick Taylor versus Julio Cesar Chavez. That's a
• 1:27:06
  great example. Chavez just put it on him and dropped
• 1:27:09
  him in the final moments of the round. And then
• 1:27:12
  Richard Steele stopped it. And it was like this crazy
• 1:27:15
  fucking controversy. Because he stopped the fight with like one
• 1:27:18
  second to go in a fight that Meldrick was ahead
• 1:27:20
  on the scorecards. But the real story of that fight
• 1:27:25
  was that the damage that Chavez had put on Meldrick,
• 1:27:29
  Meldrick was never the same again.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: And Pavlik actually won his next two fights and then
• 1:27:34
  had a bad staph infection problem.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow. So after he beat Sergio, so he was
• 1:27:41
  set to fight Paul Williams, but to major staph infection
• 1:27:45
  and allergic reaction, some antibiotics nearly killed him. Whoa. He
• 1:27:49
  eventually was able to fight again against light middleweight champion,
• 1:27:52
  Sergio Martinez.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, Sergio Martinez.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: He beat him. Martinez beat, he beat him. He, Martinez
• 1:27:59
  beat him. Um, but yeah, uh, Unanimous 12-round decision. Sergio
• 1:28:06
  Martinez was a.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: Bad motherfucker too.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: Yes, he was. Yeah. In the late rounds, Martinez came up.
• 1:28:15
  It's just a crazy sport, man. You only have so
• 1:28:16
  many wars in you. There's only so many times you
• 1:28:19
  could do that. And the really clever guys are the
• 1:28:22
  guys who just don't get hit much.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I went down a Maidana rabbit hole recently. Oh, my God.
• 1:28:28
  That fucking guy's a freak.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, he was an animal.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: What a career.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: He was an animal.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. He fought everybody. He was one of.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: The few guys to really rock Floyd Mayweather.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: Knocked his tooth out and wore his tooth around a chain. Oh,
• 1:28:42
  I love that. Yeah. He got Floyd's tooth and wore
• 1:28:46
  it as a piece. See if you can find the
• 1:28:48
  tooth that Maidana had of Floyd. Look at that.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. That is so cool.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: How hilarious is that? That's.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: So funny.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: He had his tooth put on a fucking, he wears.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: Floyd's tooth on a necklace.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: Wow. That's crazy.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: Boy, what a square-jawed motherfucker that guy is, huh? Yeah.
• 1:29:09
  Look at that jaw. That guy looks like he could
• 1:29:11
  hit him with a baseball bat. He was a tough dude.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Insane career. I think he fought everybody.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: The Broner fight, too. He dropped Broner. That was when
• 1:29:19
  Broner was in his prime. Yeah. He was a beast.
• 1:29:23
  It's a hard-ass fucking sport. Any combat sport is a
• 1:29:28
  hard way to make a living.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: Profitable.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: Do you see all the stuff that's going on with Floyd?
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't wrap my head around it. I don't
• 1:29:36
  understand how someone makes that much money and doesn't pay
• 1:29:41
  taxes or whatever.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I could tell you how. You run out
• 1:29:44
  of money. Yeah. You spend so much money on things.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Do you think he has a business manager?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: Maybe he wasn't looking out for his best interest. I mean, just.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: You gotta put somebody in charge of that amount of money.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: You would think $ 750 million would last you a while.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not even 50.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: You give one guy 5%. How old is Floyd now?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: I mean... Yeah, put some away. But the thing is,
• 1:30:15
  it's like that lifestyle, his lifestyle was all about showing
• 1:30:19
  you his wealth. His lifestyle... He's 49. Imagine... Making $ 750
• 1:30:26
  million and you're 49, you're broke. Oh, God. That's crazy.
• 1:30:31
  But Tyson talks openly about how he spent hundreds of
• 1:30:33
  millions of dollars. Just went through it. You know, if
• 1:30:37
  you're living that life where you're just wearing diamonds everywhere
• 1:30:40
  and you're buying crazy watches and, you know, Floyd does
• 1:30:43
  these things. You're seeing where he'll go into a hotel
• 1:30:46
  room when he's traveling and he talks about like the
• 1:30:49
  watches that he brought. And so he opens up suitcases
• 1:30:51
  with millions of dollars in watches. Just open suitcase. You
• 1:30:56
  ever seen these? No. Find them because they're kind of hilarious.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: He's just trying to figure out which one he wants
• 1:31:02
  to wear. He brings them all with him.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. He's just showing off. He's showing off that he's
• 1:31:06
  got two suitcases filled with diamond-encrusted Patek Philips and, you know,
• 1:31:14
  the most high-end of watches. Look at this. Do you
• 1:31:18
  have the clip? Here it is. Put some volume on this.
• 1:31:21
  Look at this.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 7: I'm always in my fucking business worried about what I'm doing,
• 1:31:25
  what Floyd is doing, what Floyd ain't doing, what I
• 1:31:28
  do got, what I don't got. Just know, I'm going
• 1:31:31
  to stay in my lane, I ain't going to fuck
• 1:31:33
  with nobody, and I don't want nobody fucking with me.
• 1:31:35
  If I go on vacation, my fault, when I go
• 1:31:38
  on vacation for 30 days, I take 30.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: Watches with me. Look at this, dude. But you know what?
• 1:31:47
  You know what? What's crazy is this. If we add
• 1:31:50
  10 more days.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 7: I'd take 10 more watches.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: But then I say, fuck it.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 7: If I want to bring out the one and only,
• 1:32:00
  then I bring out the watch that costs 18 million.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 7: Matter of fact, you know what I'm going to do
• 1:32:06
  for you motherfucking haters today? I'm going to go fuck
• 1:32:09
  off $ 50, 000 because I ain't got shit else to do.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: Money made. All motherfucking day. You know what's crazy? That's
• 1:32:16
  the problem. So that you can only do for so long. Yeah. So...
• 1:32:21
  If you have one $ 18 million watch, like, okay, let's
• 1:32:25
  not get crazy. Let's not get crazy. You wanted to
• 1:32:28
  get it. You got it. You have $ 750 million. You
• 1:32:30
  have one $ 18 million watch. You can't have 18 watches
• 1:32:37
  that cost millions of dollars because you're going to need more.
• 1:32:41
  You're going to keep wanting to buy more. You're going
• 1:32:43
  to run out of money. How many Rolls Royces do
• 1:32:46
  you have? Okay, each one of those is a half
• 1:32:47
  a million dollars. You have four or five of them? Hmm.
• 1:32:51
  How many Ferraris? You got 10 Ferraris. Okay, what? Some
• 1:32:55
  of those Ferraris are almost a million dollars. You have
• 1:32:58
  10 almost a million dollar cars. Okay, so just in
• 1:33:01
  watches and cars alone, we're looking at 50, 60 million. Okay?
• 1:33:07
  And then you have to make 120 plus to actually
• 1:33:09
  have 60. I don't know if he's leasing them. I
• 1:33:12
  don't know how he's financing things. I don't know.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: I'd love to know. He could make that money back by...
• 1:33:19
  He can make the money that he needs back by
• 1:33:21
  literally making a super documentary about how he spent it.
• 1:33:25
  You ever seen that 30 for 30 broke about how
• 1:33:27
  the NFL players all spent their money?
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Well, it's unbelievable. One of the easiest watches ever. And
• 1:33:35
  like it, it's, it's gotta be 30 for 30 is
• 1:33:39
  like biggest production ever. Like it's everywhere. It's, it's just huge.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: And, um, yeah.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: Who the hell doesn't want to know about that?
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm waiting on that Nicolas Cage doc that probably
• 1:33:51
  nobody's making either. Where it's like, because he's a different
• 1:33:54
  version of that.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: He is? You know about this. He went broke? Oh, yeah.
• 1:33:58
  But then he made it back again. Well, yeah.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: He works his ass off. So he went on a,
• 1:34:02
  he's on a terror. He's just making movies left and right.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: And, yeah.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: He faced severe financial struggles in the late 2000s, going
• 1:34:13
  from $ 150 million fortune to being $ 6 million in debt. Whoa.
• 1:34:17
  He never officially filed for bankruptcy, but he cleared his
• 1:34:20
  debts by relentlessly taking on movie roles, including direct-to-video films
• 1:34:25
  and selling off extensive real estate and assets.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: I guess he bought a lot of T-Rex skulls. He
• 1:34:30
  spent his money on crazy things. He didn't just go
• 1:34:33
  watches and cars. He would find crazy pieces of art
• 1:34:37
  and old... historical things, I think.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: Well, he was a movie star from way back. You
• 1:34:45
  got to realize like, what was his first film? I
• 1:34:47
  think his first film was like 1980 or something.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: I remember him being a movie star when I was
• 1:34:52
  in high school. Yeah. That's a lot of time of
• 1:34:55
  being in that bizarro Hollywood bubble, getting your brain cooked
• 1:35:00
  by fame. Yeah.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: He's one of those, you can watch him do any
• 1:35:03
  things like one of those freaks where, Even though people
• 1:35:08
  will say, I don't like this Nicolas Cage thing. I
• 1:35:10
  don't like that.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: From an article about what he spent his money on. $ 455, 000
• 1:35:13
  for two snakes. Okay, so it was $ 276, 000 in 2005,
• 1:35:14
  the equivalent of $ 455, 000 today. Thanks, inflation. How crazy is that?
• 1:35:19
  Think about that. $ 275, 000 in 2005 is $ 455, 000 today. How
• 1:35:38
  fun is inflation?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: What was Nicolas Cage's first movie? Officially? Yeah.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: He was in a few things, like, unofficially.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: Did you see that crazy movie with him and.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Raising Arizona to be, like, the first big hit, right?
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: That was a big one. That was a big one.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: His new ones are good, too. These wacky ones.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: His filmography, if you go all the way back. 1982,
• 1:36:05
  Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: It was Nicholas Coppola.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: Valley Girl is what I was thinking of. That was
• 1:36:09
  in 83. Yeah. Credit is Nicholas Coppola. That's before he
• 1:36:14
  changed his name because he didn't want to be connected.
• 1:36:18
  What is his uncle? Francis Ford Coppola? Is that what
• 1:36:20
  it is? Valley Girl. So Valley Girl was 83. So
• 1:36:24
  I was in high school, dude.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: Raising Arizona, Peggy Sue Got Married.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: Those were big, too.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Big.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: Those were huge movies, dude. Raising Arizona is so fucking funny.
• 1:36:33
  I saw that like a year ago. I forgot how
• 1:36:36
  funny it was. Remember Tex Cobb was in there? The
• 1:36:40
  boxer with the flattened nose who fought Larry Holmes? He
• 1:36:43
  did a bunch of movies.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: The big white guy?
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, big fucking corn-fed white guy.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: With the motorcycle?
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's great. It's a Coen Brothers movie, right?
• 1:36:52
  Raising Arizona is. Those guys might be the GOATs. They
• 1:36:57
  might be the GOATs of comedy. They're in the Farrelly Brothers. Yep.
• 1:37:01
  No doubt. How many? hilarious fucking movies. And the Coen
• 1:37:04
  brothers was, they were always so out there. Everything's so
• 1:37:07
  out there. Some of their films are just like, what
• 1:37:10
  the fuck are you guys doing? It's like King. It
• 1:37:14
  was Kingpin Farrelly brothers. Yes. Those guys too. Without a doubt. Fuck.
• 1:37:17
  That was good.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: Fuck. That's a funny movie.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: So fucking great.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: So funny. The scene where he's throwing up in the
• 1:37:24
  toilet when she's talking about him eating her pussy to
• 1:37:28
  pay his rent.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. Oh, Woody's range is incredible.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: You know what I heard about that movie? That they
• 1:37:36
  had primed all the actors to get really excited when
• 1:37:40
  Bill Murray throws three strikes. Because he had to throw
• 1:37:43
  three strikes in a row. And so they said, this
• 1:37:45
  might take a while, so we're going to really need
• 1:37:46
  your enthusiasm. And then Bill Murray actually threw three strikes
• 1:37:51
  in a row, first attempt, and everybody went crazy. Like,
• 1:37:55
  for real. Because they were, you know, like, they said,
• 1:37:58
  this is not going to happen this way. So when
• 1:38:00
  he actually did it, Everybody went fucking bananas.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: Nuts.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: Fuck, such a good movie. I love it.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: Dude, Woody's a freak, bro. Since he's moved here and
• 1:38:10
  goes to kill Tony and we hang out and stuff,
• 1:38:14
  only after making friends with him, I knew he did
• 1:38:21
  a lot of great stuff, but he sneaks up in
• 1:38:24
  so many great things. It's insane. He's in fucking, what
• 1:38:29
  is it? is the Coen Brothers one with Not There
• 1:38:32
  Will Be Blood? It was made at the same time
• 1:38:33
  with Javier Bardem.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: How am I blanking on this? It's No Country for
• 1:38:39
  Old Men.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: He's in it. And he's not even, they don't even
• 1:38:43
  like promote him on that or anything. He just comes
• 1:38:46
  in the movie halfway through with all these other fucking
• 1:38:49
  greats and is crushing.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: It's hard to think that that's the Coen Brothers movie.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: The People versus Larry Flint. He's a freak of nature.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: Well, that thing that you sent me the other day
• 1:39:00
  with him when he was playing LBJ.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. It's so good. I randomly stumbled across
• 1:39:06
  that one. I'm like, oh, I'll fall asleep to this.
• 1:39:07
  Woody is LBJ. And it's one of those movies that
• 1:39:09
  fucking kept me awake because it was so goddamn good. Mesmerizing.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: Super nice guy too. Like easy to hang out with.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. The best.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: Very chill with everybody. Just hangs out when he's in
• 1:39:22
  the green room. It's just like one of us. Yeah. Normal. Yeah.
• 1:39:25
  You know, it's just hard to do. And you've been
• 1:39:27
  famous that long. Just be cool.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: But also he doesn't have a phone. You get a
• 1:39:31
  hold of him. You got to go through his wife
• 1:39:33
  to get a hold of him. He's smart. Just insulates
• 1:39:35
  himself from all the nonsense.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: Brilliant. That's the way to do it.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: But I think when you get to like that level,
• 1:39:41
  you kind of have to or you'll go crazy.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: You know? Yeah.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: He has this fun. He likes laughing, sipping his tequila,
• 1:39:50
  smoking his weed. He's got it all figured out. Grows
• 1:39:54
  his own weed, makes his own tequila, eats live food
• 1:39:58
  or whatever. And just laughs and enjoys life. It's perfect.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice to know that people can make it
• 1:40:05
  through that crazy maze. And, you know, you could either
• 1:40:09
  go nuts and buy Tyrannosaurus Rex skulls. Or you could
• 1:40:13
  just completely disconnect from it all and just be yourself. Yeah.
• 1:40:17
  Just keep killing it. I know him and McConaughey have
• 1:40:21
  a TV show that's coming out where they play Brothers, right? Yeah.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's on Apple TV coming out soon.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So, um, what's it been like, like the, the weirdness,
• 1:40:37
  the post roast weirdness.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: I'm always surprised by these things. I'm always surprised that
• 1:40:45
  they last so long that anybody's talking about it. It's
• 1:40:50
  so bizarre. I was surprised with the Pang Dang thing.
• 1:40:55
  I was surprised at the Trump thing and this one.
• 1:40:59
  is really surprising because with other ones are like, ah,
• 1:41:02
  there's a time and a place for jokes like that
• 1:41:04
  or this or that or whatever. And this is the
• 1:41:08
  time and the place for it is like the roast
• 1:41:10
  of Kevin Hart, you know, I'm going to go for it.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: And we roasted Kevin, you know, I did a fucking
• 1:41:17
  George Floyd joke in the, uh, at the Tom Brady roast.
• 1:41:23
  And I did a, who's the white guy that shot people? Um,
• 1:41:29
  It's the same fan base as, God damn it, the
• 1:41:33
  kid that shot people up in wherever.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: Be a little more specific.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: The white guy shot a couple people, had a gun
• 1:41:41
  at a thing that made it look like it was
• 1:41:44
  black people, but it was actually white people that he
• 1:41:46
  shot that were shooting at him or had guns. What?
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: I have no idea who you're talking about. God damn it.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: David Lucas' friends with him brought him to the club.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, Kyle Rittenhouse. That's it.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: That's it. I did a Kyle Rittenhouse joke. I did this.
• 1:41:59
  And then this one, people are offended or something.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: And yeah, if you just watch that clip on my dismount,
• 1:42:06
  it's a crazy clip. But if you watch the entire
• 1:42:08
  flow of the roast set, it's just one last departing joke,
• 1:42:13
  which that's my thing, man. It's like I knew Earthquake
• 1:42:17
  would be standing up on his feet like he was
• 1:42:20
  halfway through my set, you know. you know there's standing
• 1:42:24
  o's that are happening during my actual roast and on
• 1:42:27
  this one because there were so many people on it
• 1:42:30
  it was such a long big roast you know they
• 1:42:33
  set you to an allotted time so I'm like okay
• 1:42:35
  I'm gonna do something I don't normally do and blast
• 1:42:38
  off more jokes per minute than I normally do instead
• 1:42:41
  of milking it and getting applause breaks and things like
• 1:42:44
  that I'm just gonna create a bang bang bang bang
• 1:42:47
  bang final stand of things you know what's funny is
• 1:42:51
  that I have something that's supposed to offend everybody. Like,
• 1:42:56
  I don't want you to like 100% of any of
• 1:42:59
  my jokes. I'm not that guy. I'm heel-ish. I'm a
• 1:43:03
  bad guy wrestling fan.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: You're a pro wrestling heel. Exactly.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: So what's funny is people got offended about the George
• 1:43:09
  Floyd thing, and a lot of people said, yeah, well,
• 1:43:13
  Pete Davidson did a Charlie Kirk joke. And they're comparing
• 1:43:16
  these things from two different spectrums. But what they didn't
• 1:43:19
  mention is that I did a Charlie Kirk joke in
• 1:43:22
  my set. So fuck them, fuck them, fuck them, fuck them.
• 1:43:26
  You know what I mean?
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: Everybody gets them.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Everybody gets it is always my whole point.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: Everybody gets some jokes.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: Everybody does. I said that Kevin has, uh, what, quite
• 1:43:36
  the fan base. He has more gunfire at his merch
• 1:43:39
  table than Charlie Kirk or whatever. And, um, so, you know,
• 1:43:45
  for them to, for people to nitpick that joke and
• 1:43:48
  be offended. And it's funny cause it was a lot of, uh,
• 1:43:51
  A lot of comedians, a lot of black comedians were like,
• 1:43:55
  I'm upset about this. They made their videos, which is
• 1:44:00
  just hilarious because they're not on the roast. They're not
• 1:44:02
  in attendance at the roast.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: You saw Tiffany Haddish.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: That was the best one. Nobody handled it better than her.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: Find Tiffany Haddish getting asked questions. Was it a TMZ thing? Yeah.
• 1:44:14
  About the roast because she handled it. So perfectly.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: They were trying to bait everybody.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: Of course they were.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: Everybody. Even Cheryl Underwood, who handled it all like a champ.
• 1:44:25
  We made friends before at a Netflix brunch that week
• 1:44:30
  that was for that festival.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: Well, dude, I told you about Cheryl. Yeah.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: She's the shit.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: She's awesome. I worked with Cheryl in like the early 2000s,
• 1:44:39
  I think it was, in Montreal. I told you. She's
• 1:44:41
  a monster. Yeah. She'd go and stitch her purse on.
• 1:44:44
  Just clutching her purse on stage and murdered. Oh, yeah.
• 1:44:49
  Listen to Tiffany.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 6: Oh, she ready.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 5: You look so good.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 6: Do we have like 30 seconds to chat really quick?
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So talking about Kevin Hart roast, right?
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 6: Yes, it was so much fun.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: So Lonnie Love didn't think so.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 6: Lonnie Love was like, you know what?
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: It's exhausting.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: It's edgy. Specifically about the George Floyd joke. What are
• 1:45:08
  you thinking? Is it just comedy? Should they have been
• 1:45:10
  a little less?
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 6: I think it should have been shorter. The show was
• 1:45:14
  too long. I mean, I was sitting there the whole time.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: I had to pee.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: I didn't hear the George Floyd joke because I had
• 1:45:19
  to pee so bad. So, yeah, I was a glorified
• 1:45:23
  seat filler.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: And I was tired.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: Well, also, I mean, Lonnie and other people were like, oh,
• 1:45:28
  maybe it was a little too racially motivated.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: What do you think as far as, like, the jokes?
• 1:45:34
  Is this just comedy?
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: Or are people taking it too seriously?
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 6: Is this all comedians saying it that wasn't invited?
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: That's the fucking comedian Tiffany Haddish.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: Bro, that was her version of the Sean O'Malley walk off.
• 1:45:52
  I love it.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I love it, man. You never forget those people that
• 1:45:57
  actually are answering honestly and real.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: Well, real comics.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: And again, it's the same thing for 100%. She's not
• 1:46:05
  only is it a fun walk off home run, but
• 1:46:07
  she's also 100% correct. There's nobody that was there that
• 1:46:12
  was offended. There was no ruckus there. It's just like
• 1:46:15
  everything else where you leave and you go, huh, this
• 1:46:19
  thing's kind of crazily taking off, it seems. A lot
• 1:46:22
  of people are talking about that one joke at the end.
• 1:46:25
  It's so weird.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: We live in an outrage culture and an outrage. There's
• 1:46:32
  money in outrage. There's engagement in outrage. Outrage is the
• 1:46:36
  It's the commodity that everybody wants. They want to be outraged.
• 1:46:40
  And they want to be right. And if you're outraged
• 1:46:42
  and you've got a good point, you just ride that
• 1:46:44
  fucking thing for as much juice as you can get
• 1:46:46
  out of it. And then you move on to the
• 1:46:47
  next thing. What are you mad at now?
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: There's never in any of these things, there's never a
• 1:46:53
  moment where I'm like, okay, this could cause a problem.
• 1:46:58
  It's never been that way. It was high fives. High
• 1:47:02
  fives and laughter after my... 3 p.m. set in a
• 1:47:06
  half-filled Madison Square Garden waiting for the 8 p.m. arrival
• 1:47:10
  of Trump to speak. I'm, you know, on a 34-person lineup.
• 1:47:14
  Everyone was thrilled. Way to get the crowd going. I mean,
• 1:47:18
  we're just getting the party started. The lights were up. Like,
• 1:47:21
  it obviously wasn't the best position for me on that lineup,
• 1:47:25
  but the same exact thing. And then it's like a
• 1:47:28
  little bit later, you realize like, oh, they're making a
• 1:47:30
  news story about The Puerto Rico joke about things. So interesting.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: I told you that joke was going to be a problem. Yeah.
• 1:47:37
  I would have never told you to do that joke
• 1:47:39
  during that, but I told you that was going to
• 1:47:41
  be a problem in your act.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to be in my original thing for that.
• 1:47:45
  It was a last second filler because they gave me
• 1:47:47
  more time than everybody. It was a very bizarre thing.
• 1:47:50
  They gave me more time for every bizarre thing.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: First of all, the idea that you would go on
• 1:47:54
  after someone. Who went on before you? Stephen Miller?
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: No, not even.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: Who was it?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: It was the national anthem with a guy painting a
• 1:48:02
  painting of things. Actually, no, he went on after me.
• 1:48:05
  I went on right after the national anthem.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: But someone had some kind of like rah-rah speech.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: Make America great again. I wish there was. That all
• 1:48:13
  came like way after me, which is crazy. They just
• 1:48:16
  had me on the wrong position on the thing.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: And. You should only do stand-up where people are doing stand-up.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: Totally. Totally.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: It doesn't work. Totally. It's like. But you got to say.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: But then again, it did work in-house. The place isn't
• 1:48:31
  miked for stand-up comedy or lit for stand-up or anything
• 1:48:35
  like it.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: No, they were laughing.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: They were having a good old time.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: Well, they were probably happy that something wasn't stiff and boring.
• 1:48:41
  Taxes and fucking tariffs.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, Rudy Giuliani went on like three hours after me.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. Yeah.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: It was a nuts all day. It was a super
• 1:48:52
  long thing. My point being is that it always surprises
• 1:48:55
  me that I'm the news, even though I'm, because if
• 1:49:00
  someone else said it, if it was a politician that
• 1:49:02
  did it or someone else, someone high up in the administration,
• 1:49:07
  that would make sense. Same thing with the roast. If
• 1:49:09
  it was a clean comedian, right? If Nate Bargatze or
• 1:49:13
  Jim Gaffigan were on it and they said that, that's crazy.
• 1:49:17
  Me saying it, that's normal.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 4: They don't know that though. See, the thing is, it's like,
• 1:49:23
  you've achieved a level of fame that like really snuck
• 1:49:26
  up on people over the last couple of years. You know,
• 1:49:29
  it's because the rise of Kill Tony has been completely organic.
• 1:49:35
  Like there's been no promotion of Kill Tony that made
• 1:49:38
  it become what it is. It's all just people sharing
• 1:49:41
  it on YouTube, sharing it online. That's all it is.
• 1:49:43
  Clips and these moments, you know, and then You know,
• 1:49:48
  obviously the Shane moments and all the Kyle Dunnigan. It's
• 1:49:52
  been just so many amazing moments. It's such a good show.
• 1:49:55
  It came organically. And then you got to this point
• 1:49:58
  over the last couple of years where like, oh, we
• 1:49:59
  got to pay attention to this fucking guy. And then
• 1:50:02
  after they started attacking you from the White House thing
• 1:50:05
  or the Madison Square Garden thing rather, which is 2024,
• 1:50:07
  then it was on. Then it's on like Donkey Kong, right?
• 1:50:11
  So that's two years later. So now you're a guy
• 1:50:14
  that they go to like to get mad at. And
• 1:50:17
  there's a bunch of people like that online. That's their business.
• 1:50:20
  Their business is people are mad at them. They have
• 1:50:22
  hot takes. People are mad at them. I mean that's–
• 1:50:25
  so you've fallen into that category. And so there's going
• 1:50:30
  to be people that genuinely don't like what you did
• 1:50:32
  and don't like you. And then there's going to be
• 1:50:34
  people that are just using it as a commodity. They're
• 1:50:37
  just using it as outrage, which is part of what
• 1:50:39
  the game is. This is what they do in their
• 1:50:43
  engagement process. fucking game that they play. And it's kind
• 1:50:47
  of what we do in the joke game.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: You know, you get engagement, you get people to laugh. They,
• 1:50:52
  you say outrageous things that you don't even really mean,
• 1:50:55
  but it's because it's a funny thing to say. It's
• 1:50:57
  just like, I always say, Bob Marley didn't really shoot
• 1:51:00
  the sheriff. You know that, right? Right. It's like, it's
• 1:51:03
  just jokes. Like when you say inappropriate shit on purpose,
• 1:51:07
  I mean, that is like, everybody used to know that.
• 1:51:10
  Like Louis CK was a very left wing progressive guy.
• 1:51:14
  When he was saying really fucked up things that he
• 1:51:17
  didn't mean on purpose because they were funny.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 4: Like that was what he did. And everybody was fine
• 1:51:22
  with it until somewhere around. It seems like it was
• 1:51:27
  like 2016, 2000. Like it started to turn a corner
• 1:51:31
  where it became like people are starting to take these
• 1:51:33
  things as statements rather than as comedy material. And they
• 1:51:39
  started trying to pretend that the person really means this.
• 1:51:42
  Like that's where it got crazy. And that happened around
• 1:51:46
  the time where social media really came into prominence. Because
• 1:51:49
  before that, there was no real avenue to do that.
• 1:51:52
  There's no real avenue to pretend you were really deeply upset.
• 1:51:55
  I mean, I'm sure there's some people that were upset,
• 1:51:59
  but there's also a lot of like people that are
• 1:52:01
  just ill. They're online all the time on these social
• 1:52:04
  media apps, just arguing and spitting out venom and yelling
• 1:52:08
  at people and they yell at them. It's like, They're
• 1:52:10
  in hell all day long. And any time something comes
• 1:52:12
  along they could be upset at, they have to have
• 1:52:15
  their take. They have to have that hot take.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: And if their hot take gets engagement, they're all looking
• 1:52:20
  at their likes and they just start reengaging with that
• 1:52:24
  subject and going back on it. And this is the
• 1:52:26
  real problem. Okay. Good luck with that. That's bad for
• 1:52:30
  your head, kid. Right. Exactly. Very bad for your head.
• 1:52:33
  All those people that I know that are like, especially
• 1:52:35
  comics that are doing it, the comics that are doing it,
• 1:52:38
  almost all of them don't have good careers. No, all
• 1:52:41
  of them. Right. None of them have like impressive career,
• 1:52:44
  especially compared to their contemporaries that are doing well. And
• 1:52:47
  then on top of it, they're all mentally ill. They're
• 1:52:49
  all people that are fucking filled up with pharmaceuticals and
• 1:52:53
  they're going to therapy. They're literally mentally ill and they're
• 1:52:56
  online talking about fascists. Right. Stop. Get your shit together.
• 1:53:02
  Your opinion is not that valuable to people because they
• 1:53:05
  know that you're fucked up. Do you not understand that?
• 1:53:08
  The way you view the world, it's not a healthy,
• 1:53:12
  balanced perspective. You're viewing the world in this mentally ill lens.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: Well, the whole online thing doesn't even convert to sold
• 1:53:22
  tickets or a bigger thing. It's such a temporary drug
• 1:53:26
  for them to get to fill this void of what
• 1:53:29
  they're not doing.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: Right. It doesn't convert to them. People wanting to go
• 1:53:33
  see them.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, some people, maybe they get like a little
• 1:53:36
  juice out of it, but it's not enough because you're
• 1:53:39
  also opening the door. If you do become popular, you
• 1:53:41
  have to understand that if you've been spitting hate at
• 1:53:43
  people for a decade and then you become popular, boy,
• 1:53:47
  that hate's coming your way. Oh yeah. It's coming your way,
• 1:53:50
  you know? And I mean, this is one of the
• 1:53:52
  things that I said after the Mencia stuff, I said,
• 1:53:55
  even though I think it was the right thing to do,
• 1:53:57
  I wouldn't do it again. Because it's just too much.
• 1:53:59
  It's just too much. You just feel the darkness of
• 1:54:04
  it all. It's all negative. It's all negative. Even though
• 1:54:07
  it had to be done because you've got this guy
• 1:54:09
  with it. It showed me how completely absent of morals
• 1:54:16
  and ethics the business is. Completely absent. They knew what
• 1:54:20
  he was doing and they did not care. They didn't
• 1:54:23
  care because they were profiting from it. This is the
• 1:54:26
  conversation that I had with my agent when they were
• 1:54:27
  dumping me. I told them, I go, you're making a
• 1:54:30
  mistake right now that's going to affect the rest of
• 1:54:33
  your life. You have to understand the choice that you're making.
• 1:54:35
  You're choosing to align with someone who in any other industry,
• 1:54:40
  that person would be in jail.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: And also if this was in literature or if this
• 1:54:45
  was in music, they would be sued into high heaven.
• 1:54:48
  Like there's songs that like they don't even seem like
• 1:54:52
  they're that close to each other. And people had to
• 1:54:55
  give like songwriting credits to it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like songs,
• 1:55:00
  like people get inspired by certain songs and then they
• 1:55:04
  write a song that sounds close enough that there's a
• 1:55:09
  rhythm to it that people get upset.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: Well, there's only so many notes and so many chords
• 1:55:14
  and there's only so many beats and so much timing.
• 1:55:17
  And it's often the same thing with comedy. Like there's
• 1:55:21
  some comedy. crossovers in a writer's room, which I've been
• 1:55:24
  in so many of, so many people writing on the
• 1:55:27
  same subject will have the same joke. It's only when
• 1:55:31
  it's like what Mencia was doing, word for word, long form.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: Well, that was a different thing. He was a buccaneer.
• 1:55:39
  That was a totally different thing. But there's songs like, okay,
• 1:55:43
  so I was listening to this video the other day,
• 1:55:45
  or watching this video the other day, rather, that was
• 1:55:47
  comparing Radiohead's Creep to an older song and they had
• 1:55:54
  to give creep, uh, Radiohead rather had to give this
• 1:55:57
  older song writing credits for this, which sounds so different.
• 1:56:02
  And then Radiohead accused Lana Del Rey or someone from
• 1:56:06
  their organization accused Lana Del Rey of having a song
• 1:56:10
  that ripped off creep or was sounded too much like creep.
• 1:56:14
  And it did sound a little like creep, but it
• 1:56:15
  was very different. Like it should be, obviously this is
• 1:56:18
  like inspired by it. Right. If that's like Elvis Presley's
• 1:56:23
  entire career was inspired by black musicians, like the way
• 1:56:28
  he danced and moved and the way he sang. So
• 1:56:31
  it's like, what are we doing? Like there's stealing and
• 1:56:34
  then there's inspired by. Inspired by is what we were
• 1:56:36
  all doing. It's like we were talking about that computer earlier,
• 1:56:39
  that chip manufacturing thing. That thing was built on the
• 1:56:42
  back of all the fucking super wizard geniuses that have
• 1:56:45
  been working on all the different technology that led to
• 1:56:48
  that being. You can't just invent that in a vacuum.
• 1:56:51
  You have to invent that on all these other inventions
• 1:56:55
  that have taken place for decades before you. This is
• 1:56:59
  like with music. It's interesting how litigious they are. Maybe
• 1:57:04
  it's because they're run by a certain group of people.
• 1:57:07
  But they're so good at suing people. Like Bittersweet Symphony.
• 1:57:13
  You remember that song? Yeah, totally. They had to give
• 1:57:15
  all their money to the Stones. Yep. Because it was,
• 1:57:18
  what song? It's... Let's ask perplexity. While Tony is.
• 1:57:27
  Or while Jamie, rather, is.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, I can't do that. That's right.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, we have to do it.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: I know. Are you? If, if, I mean, we learned
• 1:57:36
  this the hard way because I have an actual band
• 1:57:39
  that can play anything and everything. And years ago they
• 1:57:42
  could play anything and everything. Our old episodes hold, um,
• 1:57:48
  Cause you know, I'd literally be to a, you know,
• 1:57:50
  a shy person. I'd be like, what do you, you know,
• 1:57:52
  you ever do karaoke?
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 4: They're like, yes.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: I'd go, what song do you sing? And then they go,
• 1:57:56
  they go dah, dah, dah, dah. And I literally, they
• 1:57:58
  would go right into it. And now you can't hum
• 1:58:01
  a song for a few seconds.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: So bittersweet symphony was a sample from, uh, the Verve
• 1:58:07
  developed bittersweet symphony from a sample from a 1965 version
• 1:58:11
  of Rolling Stone song. The last time, uh, adding vocal strings, guitar,
• 1:58:17
  and percussion after a lawsuit by the Rolling Stones, former manager,
• 1:58:21
  Alan Klein, the Verve relinquished all royalties to the Rolling
• 1:58:24
  Stones members, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, who, uh, were
• 1:58:27
  also added to the songwriting credits. Wow. 2019, 10 years
• 1:58:32
  after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards, and Klein's son ceded the
• 1:58:35
  rights to the Verve songwriter Richard Ashcroft because he was
• 1:58:39
  probably broke.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: There's similar things that have happened recently with, I think,
• 1:58:43
  Olivia Rodrigo and Paramore and then Puff Daddy.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Can you please look up the other one that
• 1:58:50
  I set up, though, which was Radiohead, Creep, Lana Del
• 1:58:54
  Rey and Radiohead Creep had to give songwriting credits to
• 1:58:58
  another band.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 5: The Hollies.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 4: The Hollies, that's right. What was the original song? The
• 1:59:05
  Air That I Breathe. It's interesting. Let's listen to them.
• 1:59:10
  See if you can find that there's a comparison video
• 1:59:12
  that I watched on YouTube. See if you can find that.
• 1:59:17
  Because it's interesting how they say the first one and
• 1:59:22
  you're like, geez, I don't see it. We'll have to
• 1:59:24
  edit this out, ladies and gentlemen, but you can find
• 1:59:26
  it yourself. Radiohead's Creep versus Lana Del Rey's Get Free
• 1:59:29
  versus the Holly's The Air That I Breathe. Yeah, that
• 1:59:31
  was a live version of it, but if you hear
• 1:59:34
  the recorded version of it, it's even more. You could see.
• 1:59:39
  But people get inspired by things. I get it, though.
• 1:59:44
  I get it in those cases, especially at the beginning
• 1:59:46
  of the Holly's song and then the beginning of Radiohead.
• 1:59:48
  I'm sort of dead on. Yeah. they're set in a
• 1:59:53
  mood like a very specific mood.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen how the guy from here's a
• 1:59:57
  crazy one the guy from the gorillas the song clint
• 2:00:02
  eastwood i think it is he had a like one
• 2:00:04
  of those like little kids kind of keyboards and he
• 2:00:09
  hit the demo button because like oftentimes it'll just have
• 2:00:12
  a regular song or whatever and um it's the entire
• 2:00:18
  backbone of their biggest hit um You'd have to pull
• 2:00:23
  it up, I guess, to understand, but it's that. Yeah,
• 2:00:25
  there it is. So that's just on the thing.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: And somehow they got away with it.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: And then all they do from there is just, yeah.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 4: That's the preset. It's the rock one preset. That's so crazy.
• 2:00:51
  They used that. They used a preset from one of
• 2:00:55
  them little machines, like a toy.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: And much like the fucking crazy jokes that end up
• 2:01:01
  getting me in trouble, I bet they don't even think
• 2:01:02
  that's going to be the hit. You know what I mean?
• 2:01:05
  They're probably not like, this is the song that's going
• 2:01:08
  to fly off the shelves.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but other people see it, Tony. I was the
• 2:01:10
  one who told you you were going to get stabbed
• 2:01:11
  for the Puerto Rican joke.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: That was so many years later. It's crazy. I was
• 2:01:17
  doing that joke during the pandemic to the point to
• 2:01:20
  where it got extended to where you were part of it.
• 2:01:22
  And what's funny is I left those tags of the
• 2:01:25
  longer joke out of the Trump rally one, which probably
• 2:01:28
  would have protected me. It probably would have saved it going, ah,
• 2:01:32
  it's going to get me stabbed, whatever. You know what
• 2:01:34
  I mean?
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: Then you would have to do the Amy Schumer joke.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there was a lot to it.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: People don't realize that that's a small bit of a
• 2:01:42
  much bigger chunk at the time.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why it should be in a set. Comedy
• 2:01:47
  is such a weird art form. Look, I love it
• 2:01:50
  to death, but real comedy should be seen in person.
• 2:01:55
  Stan Hope said this once. It was like everything we
• 2:01:57
  do on TV is just to try to get people
• 2:01:58
  to come see us in the clubs. That's really what
• 2:02:00
  it is. You just really want people to go there
• 2:02:03
  live because that's the real fun. The real fun is
• 2:02:06
  all us, a bunch of human beings, fucking around and
• 2:02:09
  having a good time. Right. As soon as you start
• 2:02:11
  taking it seriously and making it something that it's not
• 2:02:13
  like you're, I get why you're doing it because that
• 2:02:18
  has become a thing that people do today. But I'm
• 2:02:21
  just saying like for your own mental health, just not,
• 2:02:24
  it's not good for you to be engaging. Like I
• 2:02:26
  was saying about the Carl's thing, like just engaging in conflict.
• 2:02:29
  It's not good. It's not good for you. It's bad
• 2:02:31
  for you. It feels bad. It's not good. It's not–
• 2:02:36
  there's negative energy and positive energy. You should spend as
• 2:02:39
  much of your time possible on things that make positive energy.
• 2:02:44
  I know that sounds hippie because I'm a little bit
• 2:02:46
  of hippie. I got a lot of hippie in me.
• 2:02:48
  But that's what I believe. I believe you should spend
• 2:02:50
  as much of your time having fun, making people laugh,
• 2:02:54
  having a good time and less about dwelling on shit. Yeah.
• 2:02:58
  That's why I try to stay off Twitter. Because when
• 2:03:01
  I get on, I just start freaking out at all
• 2:03:03
  the different news stories that are just abomination after abomination.
• 2:03:08
  We're just so angry.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: It's just impossible now. And, you know, it used to
• 2:03:12
  be Twitter was Twitter and this and that. But really,
• 2:03:15
  it's just the news. X is the news.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 4: It is the news.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: And it's so hard to... absorb that. It was fun
• 2:03:24
  and you know, it's cool and all. And my algorithm
• 2:03:26
  still shows me stuff that I love police chases gone
• 2:03:30
  wrong and, and UFC highlights and all of this stuff.
• 2:03:34
  But all the stuff around that is just crazy. I
• 2:03:38
  did a thing because I was staying at a hotel in, um, in, uh, D.C.
• 2:03:45
  right after the State of the Union or something. Anyway,
• 2:03:50
  I'm like, OK, it's a hotel TV. I never get
• 2:03:52
  to watch regular TV. I'm going to be asleep in
• 2:03:55
  a few minutes anyway. So I threw on I ended
• 2:03:59
  up going by CNN. I'm like, let's see what these
• 2:04:01
  wackos are saying over here. Let's see how fake the
• 2:04:04
  news can possibly be, because. from what I understand, the
• 2:04:08
  most recent state of the union was a solid state
• 2:04:10
  of the union and very positive and long and entertaining.
• 2:04:14
  Let's see what they say. Oh, racism. This, he caused
• 2:04:17
  the deaths of black people here. He's the reason why we,
• 2:04:21
  why America's failing. It's the reason why we're the laughing
• 2:04:24
  stock of the country. It made me so stressed out.
• 2:04:27
  And I'm like, okay, well, let's see what Fox news
• 2:04:30
  is saying. And it was crazy over there. And then
• 2:04:33
  you have, what do they say? Uh, Well, they had
• 2:04:36
  their counterpoint person on, unlike CNN, where they're just all
• 2:04:40
  in agreeance.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: And going by six people literally going, yeah, he's the worst.
• 2:04:47
  And let's not forget that he doesn't think trans people
• 2:04:50
  deserve this and this. Like they're just going on and
• 2:04:52
  on about straight doom. And Fox News had a counterpoint
• 2:04:56
  person that was stressing me out. And, you know, I
• 2:05:00
  swear to God, I'm not kidding. This is not a joke.
• 2:05:03
  I was flipping through the different channels. I go by MSNBC.
• 2:05:06
  I'm like, oh my God, this is crazy. I put
• 2:05:09
  on Silence of the Lambs.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 4: To calm yourself down?
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: I swear to God, I was asleep five minutes later.
• 2:05:17
  And I ended up, it just coincidentally was on the
• 2:05:19
  Buffalo Bill part where he's got a girl in a well.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 4: Puts the lotion in the basket.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: Pure darkness. And I'm like, finally some peace on the
• 2:05:30
  cable television. I never get to just watch normal TV.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 4: So did Fox News have a positive spin on the
• 2:05:35
  State of the Union address? I did not watch it.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: I remember for some reason it was stressing me out,
• 2:05:40
  whatever was going on. Because, like, at least Fox has,
• 2:05:44
  they'll argue still, like the news used to be. They'll
• 2:05:47
  have both sides on and kind of talk it out.
• 2:05:51
  And CNN has that poor guy, that poor one guy
• 2:05:54
  that just takes all the bullets for everybody. He's just going,
• 2:05:58
  you're lying. That stat doesn't exist.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 4: Scott Jennings? Yes. Yeah.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: That poor guy, he probably has months to live. He
• 2:06:06
  takes so many bullets every day. He's a fucking war
• 2:06:10
  hero out there.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 4: It's a very turbulent world when it comes to discourse.
• 2:06:16
  Everybody's mad at everybody else. It's really weird to watch.
• 2:06:20
  It's really weird to watch these shows on CNN now
• 2:06:23
  that are basically like bad podcasts that get interrupted every
• 2:06:26
  five minutes for a commercial. It's really what it's like.
• 2:06:29
  I just don't– I don't remember it being that way
• 2:06:31
  where it's just so many panel opinion shows. I remember
• 2:06:35
  it was– like CNN used to have Bourdain's show on. Well,
• 2:06:40
  they would travel around the country and– check out or
• 2:06:43
  travel around the world and check out food. And it
• 2:06:46
  was interesting.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 4: And he would, you know, give you his perspective on
• 2:06:49
  the cultures and all the problems and the things that
• 2:06:53
  these people are facing, their food and what the, what
• 2:06:56
  the community was like. Fucking great show. They did a
• 2:06:59
  bunch of different shows that were different, you know, and
• 2:07:02
  then somewhere along the line, man, they just went all outrage.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 4: And I don't think that's going to get any different now.
• 2:07:10
  I mean now it looks like Barry Weiss is going
• 2:07:12
  to be running that as well. So she's running the
• 2:07:15
  CBS News and perhaps she's going to be running CNN.
• 2:07:18
  The same company is going to be running CNN. It's like, okay.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 4: Good luck. Good luck because people already don't want to listen.
• 2:07:26
  They don't want to take it seriously.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 4: And that's why X has become the news. The reason
• 2:07:31
  why it's become the news is because they can't trust
• 2:07:32
  the news. Right. Totally. Totally.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: It's crazy over there.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 4: Tim Dillon had these two New York Times reporters on
• 2:07:38
  his podcast, and I listened to him talking about it.
• 2:07:41
  I hadn't listened to them on the podcast, but I
• 2:07:43
  listened to him talking about it. And he was saying
• 2:07:46
  that they said there's no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was intelligent.
• 2:07:50
  And I was like, what? What? There's no– watch one
• 2:07:55
  Mike Benz episode of my podcast where he breaks it down.
• 2:07:58
  It's almost embarrassing. that he's not. Like what the fuck
• 2:08:03
  are you– like no evidence? No, that's not true. There's
• 2:08:05
  just evidence that you're not considering. So it's like if
• 2:08:09
  the New York Times and the people that we're always
• 2:08:11
  supposed to trust to be the objective purveyors of all
• 2:08:13
  that's going on in the world, if they're compromised, so
• 2:08:16
  they're not allowed to say things. Or they have narratives
• 2:08:19
  that they're supposed to spin one way or another. Or
• 2:08:21
  they're very cautious about being honest about their opinion, very
• 2:08:25
  shielded about their actual opinions. Either one of those is
• 2:08:29
  not good. Or if they actually believe that, that's not
• 2:08:31
  good either because that means you're not really paying attention objectively.
• 2:08:36
  Like watch a Mike Benz episode where he breaks down
• 2:08:39
  Epstein's connections. It's nuts. The whole thing is nuts. It's
• 2:08:44
  crazy that anybody could say that he wasn't intelligent.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. But they will do
• 2:08:50
  anything to push their own story.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 4: They don't. Yeah, it's a propaganda network. Yeah. And whatever
• 2:08:57
  that propaganda is, I mean, that propaganda will shift depending
• 2:09:00
  upon who's in control of the realm of the reins, rather.
• 2:09:04
  The realm really is a realm, realm of nonsense. Well,
• 2:09:07
  whoever's in control, they're going to be the ones that
• 2:09:09
  dictate how the narrative goes. And it's always going to
• 2:09:12
  be whatever the sponsors are. That's why you never hear
• 2:09:15
  anything about. Any of these studies that they're showing about
• 2:09:19
  the vaccine safety signals that they found very early on,
• 2:09:22
  how they hit it, all this Fauci stuff, they're not
• 2:09:25
  showing any of that. The Tulsi Gabbard speech, we talked
• 2:09:28
  about that, where she gave this speech explaining how he
• 2:09:31
  lied to Congress and Fauci pressured these other scientists to
• 2:09:36
  change their perspective on whether or not it was gain-of-function research.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the shit that we had a pretty big feeling
• 2:09:42
  about back in 2020.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 4: You don't hear any of these people. They're not covering it.
• 2:09:47
  And they can't because they can't really tell you the
• 2:09:50
  whole news. They can only tell you the news they're
• 2:09:51
  approved to tell you. That's not good. And that's how
• 2:09:54
  X comes about. That's how X becomes the place where
• 2:09:57
  everybody trusts. But then you go to X and it's
• 2:09:59
  just filled with horseshit. There's so much lies. There's always
• 2:10:03
  video of something happening and they're saying, this is going
• 2:10:07
  on right now. And you're like, And then someone says, no,
• 2:10:09
  this is a video from 2022. Right. This is in,
• 2:10:12
  you know, this part of the world.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: This is AI.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 4: This is China. This is not Israel. This is, you know,
• 2:10:17
  it's like there's so much horseshit and there's so many bots. Yeah.
• 2:10:21
  It's like you just dip your toe into the water
• 2:10:24
  and you just feel poisoned. Like, I got to get
• 2:10:26
  out of here. Yeah. But then you feel irresponsible for
• 2:10:29
  not paying attention.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: Exactly. You know, I feel like so many people feel
• 2:10:33
  like they're doing the right thing, watching the news and
• 2:10:36
  being informed. And they hear it. that the news is
• 2:10:39
  fake and they think that's just like a Trump talking point.
• 2:10:42
  I've always said that Trump calling it fake news was
• 2:10:44
  like one of the worst things that could happen because
• 2:10:47
  then it sounds like a Trump thing. And the Trump
• 2:10:50
  enemies go, Oh, fake news.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: It's fake. If he's saying it, then it can't be
• 2:10:54
  fake because we have to disagree with him. Meanwhile, it's
• 2:10:58
  a fucking, it's a goddamn production. I mean, it is
• 2:11:02
  fake and they're right.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 4: It's fake. Yeah, it's fake. A lot of the news
• 2:11:07
  is fake. It's not true.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 5: All that.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, the fact that no one got in trouble
• 2:11:11
  for all that Russiagate stuff.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: Crazy. Absolutely crazy.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 4: And that there's still the same people that were pushing
• 2:11:18
  that Russiagate shit. They're still giving opinions on TV.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 4: It's nuts. Yeah.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: There's no repercussions to be found. They get to say
• 2:11:26
  whatever they want. It's crazy.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 4: Well, the repercussion is no one takes them seriously. And
• 2:11:34
  that's real. They've suffered that. I mean, we've seen that
• 2:11:37
  in real time. And I think the pandemic was the big,
• 2:11:41
  that was the big wake-up call for a lot of people,
• 2:11:43
  especially people that were forced to take the vaccine because
• 2:11:46
  they had jobs or, you know, they had to fly
• 2:11:49
  or they had family members. And then they got some
• 2:11:53
  horrible side effect. And those people got what they call red-pilled,
• 2:11:57
  you know. I know a lot of people that got
• 2:11:59
  red-pilled from that. They just can't take it anymore.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. And it's... You know what I mean? There's
• 2:12:07
  certain areas geographically in which that's the mentality and they
• 2:12:13
  stick to it. I mean, here in Austin, I'm known as,
• 2:12:19
  you know, a skinny little faggot. I went to L.A.
• 2:12:24
  and it turns out I'm a racist Nazi. Like, I'm like,
• 2:12:27
  they were doing jokes on me at that roast in
• 2:12:29
  which it's like, what are you guys talking about? There's
• 2:12:33
  parts where I'm literally like, what the fuck? I've never
• 2:12:35
  even heard this about myself. I'm on a comedy show
• 2:12:38
  every week where people take shots at me and I've,
• 2:12:41
  none of this is a thing.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 4: Well, it's made up and it's all, they also made
• 2:12:45
  up a bunch of stuff about like you going to
• 2:12:47
  Saudi Arabia, which is crazy. Right.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 4: They just made it up. Yeah.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: Not only made it up, turned it down. Like didn't
• 2:12:56
  go when offered permission. Vast sums of money that the busboy,
• 2:13:00
  bagboy Tony would never imagine turning down.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 4: And people don't even know that you turned it down. Right.
• 2:13:06
  Because you haven't been public about it. Right.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: I mentioned it. I glazed over it for one moment
• 2:13:12
  on Kill Tony once.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 4: But yes. The people that turned down that money are
• 2:13:16
  you and Shane Gillis. Yeah.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: And meanwhile, Netflix clipped that. and pinned it on their Instagram,
• 2:13:23
  that joke. And with the caption long sip because I'm
• 2:13:26
  sipping my water because the joke isn't on me. So
• 2:13:28
  the camera shouldn't be on me. Meanwhile, they're getting my
• 2:13:31
  reaction shot to all you guys took that Saudi Arabian
• 2:13:35
  money and it makes it look like I'm offended or
• 2:13:38
  something or guilty of taking Saudi Arabian money.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 4: But just a joke when you just lie about a
• 2:13:43
  fact and to make a joke. is crazy because you're
• 2:13:48
  just lying. Like that's, there's a difference between that and
• 2:13:51
  making a joke about something. Like you had to make
• 2:13:54
  something true and then criticize them for something. So you
• 2:13:57
  had to lie about something and then criticize them about
• 2:13:59
  that lie that you just invented. Yeah. Which takes three
• 2:14:03
  seconds to find out it wasn't true.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 4: It takes a really quick search. Like, Oh, he didn't go. Right. Okay.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: On the contrary, the guys that, Chelsea was complimenting during
• 2:14:15
  that set, basically. Kevin Hart and Pete Davidson did take
• 2:14:19
  the money and went to Saudi Arabia.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 4: Also, you don't think Chelsea Handler would have taken that
• 2:14:23
  money if they offered her to go to Saudi Arabia?
• 2:14:25
  She went to dinner at Epstein's house.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 4: What the fuck are we talking about?
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: But it's all right, because Woody Allen was there.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And apparently she gave him the what have you.
• 2:14:34
  She told him. That's what they said. She told him.
• 2:14:37
  She was very upset with him.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, at the intelligence agent slash sexual predator's house. Yeah.
• 2:14:45
  Guys who are arrested for statutory rape. That's fine, though.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 4: Just, yeah, don't be a white guy.
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: It's enough.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 4: It's just the whole thing is so stupid. Like if
• 2:14:59
  you want to make fun of someone for anything, for,
• 2:15:02
  you know, you looking gay or you like you're down
• 2:15:04
  with that. But when you invent a fact that's not true,
• 2:15:08
  you say it's not true, and then you criticize someone
• 2:15:10
  for that. Like, that's stupid. That's a stupid way to
• 2:15:13
  do comedy. Yeah. You know?
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: And the way that it's covered and everything, it's like,
• 2:15:17
  what are you guys doing?
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 4: Well, if you didn't know, and people didn't know, obviously,
• 2:15:23
  because they laughed. They thought maybe you did go, or
• 2:15:26
  maybe Shane did go. They didn't know that you were
• 2:15:27
  the two people that did say no. You know, Jessica
• 2:15:31
  Curzon went, and she got criticized so much, she gave
• 2:15:34
  her money away. She gave the money away. I think
• 2:15:37
  she gave, what did she do with the money? Find
• 2:15:40
  out what she did. But I was like, oh man, listen,
• 2:15:42
  those people that went to see Jessica curse. First of all,
• 2:15:45
  I heard she murdered over there. She's very funny. She's
• 2:15:48
  a fucking dynamo. She's a killer on stage. Very, very entertaining.
• 2:15:52
  Lovely lady. I love her to death. She's fun to
• 2:15:54
  talk to. She fucking murdered over there. I heard. So
• 2:15:59
  a lesbian woman from New York went to Saudi Arabia.
• 2:16:03
  Look at, Donates Riyadh Comedy Festival fee to human rights campaign. Well,
• 2:16:11
  all that money is going to someone's payroll. Yeah.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: It's going to a daycare center in Minneapolis.
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel better. But meanwhile, it's paying for someone's
• 2:16:19
  salary that's probably not fixing homelessness or whatever the fuck
• 2:16:22
  it is. That's what they do. Tom Segura went and
• 2:16:26
  put a photo of a Ferrari and said, thanks, Saudi Arabia. Yeah.
• 2:16:32
  But everybody was very upset. But my perspective is the
• 2:16:36
  people that are in that audience, if you're upset at
• 2:16:39
  the people that are paying and organizing, OK, the people
• 2:16:43
  that are in that audience, though, that they're performing to,
• 2:16:45
  they don't get a chance to see American stand-up comedy.
• 2:16:48
  And they're getting a chance to see it live. And
• 2:16:50
  stand-up comedy, like music, like literature, changes people's minds. It
• 2:16:55
  changes all art where you see someone, a different person
• 2:16:59
  than you with a totally different perspective. that lives on
• 2:17:02
  another side of the world that says something that you
• 2:17:03
  think is hilarious and you love, it changes people's perspectives.
• 2:17:09
  You win hearts and minds. I mean that's real. Like
• 2:17:11
  you can change the world a little bit by getting
• 2:17:14
  people to say, hey, we kind of are– we all
• 2:17:17
  have a lot of shared interests. We just want to
• 2:17:20
  have fun. We just want to be with our friends,
• 2:17:22
  be with our family and do what we want to do.
• 2:17:25
  Like everybody wants that, including those people in the audience.
• 2:17:28
  Like those people in the audience in Saudi Arabia were
• 2:17:30
  just Saudi Arabian citizens. There's just a bunch of people
• 2:17:32
  that live there that came out to see comedy, like
• 2:17:35
  performing in front of them. I mean, what is wrong
• 2:17:40
  with that? It's wrong. You're supposed to boycott it because
• 2:17:45
  the people that run it probably were involved with the
• 2:17:48
  killing of Jamal Khashoggi and some way, or the people
• 2:17:50
  that finance it. Okay. Maybe. I see how you didn't
• 2:17:57
  want to do it, and I see how Shane didn't
• 2:17:58
  want to do it, and I probably wouldn't want to
• 2:18:00
  do it either, but I don't have any problem with
• 2:18:02
  people doing it. I think at the end of the day,
• 2:18:05
  just like I don't have any problem with Saudi Arabia
• 2:18:06
  putting on these boxing matches that I talked about. I
• 2:18:08
  love That they put on these boxing matches. And oddly enough,
• 2:18:11
  that's not really criticized that much. Even by like heavy
• 2:18:15
  duty left wing MMA media, which is a real thing.
• 2:18:19
  There's a lot of like shit, shit libs that are
• 2:18:22
  MMA media because they're journalists and they just happen to
• 2:18:26
  be fans. But they have that like hardcore left wing perspective.
• 2:18:29
  They don't seem to have that much of a problem
• 2:18:31
  with it. Not like people had the problem with the
• 2:18:33
  comics over there where guys like Louie and Bill Burr,
• 2:18:36
  they just get destroyed for that. Yeah.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nuts.
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 4: But I think Segura had the right move. Just don't
• 2:18:44
  even pay attention. Fuck off. I'm going to perform wherever
• 2:18:47
  I want to perform. You know? Yeah.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: No, it makes sense.
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 4: Totally.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: I just can't go straight from a Trump rally to
• 2:18:55
  Saudi Arabia. A little bit of a hop, a skip,
• 2:18:58
  and a jump.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 4: I know. It's also, it's like, you know, is that
• 2:19:04
  what you want to do? I don't want to go there.
• 2:19:05
  It's too long. Right. I want to be on a
• 2:19:07
  plane for 16 hours to go anywhere. Yeah, exactly.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate flying.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fuck off.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: It's terrible.
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 4: Come to Texas. Yeah.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 4: It's just we live in a very polarized society, and
• 2:19:21
  I think a large part of that is what we
• 2:19:23
  were talking about earlier with social media and mentally ill
• 2:19:25
  people just screaming into the fucking void every day. I
• 2:19:30
  just would like to suggest to people just try not
• 2:19:34
  to engage like that for a month and see how
• 2:19:37
  much better you feel. Yeah. Just try it.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: Talk and make friends.
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 4: And hopefully that's not how you've set up your life
• 2:19:42
  where you have to do that for a living. Hopefully
• 2:19:44
  you're not one of those people because there are people
• 2:19:46
  that are paid posters and they make a pretty good
• 2:19:48
  living just posting and getting engagement. Well, you know, I
• 2:19:53
  don't know what to tell you. You're trapped. Right. You know,
• 2:19:56
  if your whole thing is like shitting on people all
• 2:19:58
  day long, you're kind of trapped. Yeah. But you can't
• 2:20:01
  feel good. There's no way. No. There's no way. It's
• 2:20:05
  like the amount of cortisol that must be pumping through
• 2:20:08
  your body all day where you're going over. And I
• 2:20:10
  see like people that do that. I see how they
• 2:20:13
  get destroyed in the replies. And I'm like– and I
• 2:20:16
  know they're reading that. Like good lord. Yeah. Like I
• 2:20:21
  don't know how Gavin Newsom is still alive. Every time
• 2:20:23
  he posts something, the way he gets destroyed in those
• 2:20:26
  comments is like fucking insane. Well, no one is happy.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: It's just the funniest thing because it's– He reminds me
• 2:20:35
  of like one of the last actual politicians. Like he's
• 2:20:40
  a different just lying, ignoring of facts type of human
• 2:20:45
  being because we're witnessing it. Maybe it's easy for someone in,
• 2:20:52
  I don't know, New Hampshire to go, ah, that Gavin
• 2:20:55
  Newsom's the future. But we lived in California and I've
• 2:21:00
  been to San Francisco recently and we've seen it. Like
• 2:21:03
  when you travel, you know, comedians aren't the end-all be-all
• 2:21:08
  and these wise whatever sages perhaps. But we do travel
• 2:21:12
  a lot. And you spend a weekend in a city.
• 2:21:15
  And you're not just doing your shows. You're having lunch somewhere.
• 2:21:19
  You're having coffee somewhere. You're dealing with the people at
• 2:21:21
  the hotel lot. Whatever it may be. There's different communications
• 2:21:24
  and vibes and energies. And there's so many of these places,
• 2:21:27
  especially California. you know, San Diego is like a last stand.
• 2:21:32
  Huntington Beach is an area around there. There's like these
• 2:21:36
  little pockets in which there's still some common sense and happiness.
• 2:21:41
  Enjoy Newport, all these little pockets. But those major cities
• 2:21:47
  are fucked, man. Even the drive. And, you know, I
• 2:21:50
  go to L.A. basically maybe once a year now for
• 2:21:53
  a quick Always fun visit, always doing some arena and
• 2:21:57
  a couple nights at the store, which is different, unfortunately.
• 2:22:01
  But the drive from LAX to that area of West
• 2:22:06
  Hollywood slash Beverly Hills is gruesome. Everything is for lease.
• 2:22:11
  Everything is empty. There's nothing new except for the crazy
• 2:22:18
  looking weird ass Obama Museum Library, which is the craziest,
• 2:22:22
  weirdest library. eyesore humanly imagine where's that it's like on
• 2:22:27
  the way up there I can't remember if it's like
• 2:22:29
  off of La Cienega or fair that's not.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 4: The new one because the new one is in Chicago
• 2:22:34
  isn't it.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: Oh it is what's the fucking they built something that
• 2:22:38
  looks just like that monstrosity.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 4: The one in Chicago people don't like it I think
• 2:22:42
  it looks dope it looks like it looks like something
• 2:22:46
  from Blade Runner yeah I like it a lot of
• 2:22:50
  people don't like but it cost a lot of money
• 2:22:53
  It costs like $ 850 million. See if you can find
• 2:22:55
  out what that building looks like. Show me a photo
• 2:22:58
  of the Trump building.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 1: There's something that looks just like that building.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 3: They have a sports complex in Los Angeles they made.
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 4: Who did the Obamas? Yeah. Oh, okay. That's it. What
• 2:23:08
  is the one in Chicago? A lot of people were
• 2:23:11
  criticizing it, and I saw it. I go, that thing
• 2:23:13
  looks dope. I love it. Like that thing? Where is it? Yeah,
• 2:23:17
  the one there where your cursor is. Click on that. Oh,
• 2:23:20
  that's a rendering?
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's done yet.
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's not done? I thought people were in it.
• 2:23:25
  I don't think so. What's it down there in the lower?
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 3: I think they just showed this online and everyone was
• 2:23:29
  going crazy.
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 4: I thought people were already going to it. I don't
• 2:23:32
  know that. I think that's it. That looks like a
• 2:23:38
  rendering to me. That looks fake as fuck. But that
• 2:23:40
  one down there, that one down there with the darkness
• 2:23:44
  in the corner, yeah, right there. Is that real?
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 3: Encyclopedia Britannica? I don't know.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 4: I think that's a real photo. I think it's done.
• 2:23:56
  I might be wrong. Oh, you have Los Angeles, Chicago. Yeah,
• 2:24:06
  it's real. So it's up. But I think it looks cool.
• 2:24:10
  It's different. People are saying it's ugly. See if you
• 2:24:16
  can find photos of it. Go to images. Yeah, there
• 2:24:23
  we go. Like there. Dude, I think that looks dope.
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah. That window list.
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 4: Look at how it has the writing on the top.
• 2:24:33
  What does it say? Go all the way up, please.
• 2:24:35
  I'm trying. Oh. Unconstrained convention by what is.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 1: It's written on two sides, so... Oh, right.
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, it goes all the way around it. Oh, that's
• 2:24:51
  fucking cool. I think that looks cool. I mean, maybe
• 2:24:54
  I have no taste.
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, we can't even find an angle of what
• 2:24:58
  they're trying to say there.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 4: Right. I don't know what it's saying, but I think
• 2:25:02
  it's cool that they did that, that they had words
• 2:25:04
  that go across like that. I just think it looks sick,
• 2:25:08
  but I like that kind of brutalist architecture. I think
• 2:25:11
  that's what they call it.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 4: I like that kind of cool cement with big glass,
• 2:25:15
  like There's a lot of houses like that, especially like
• 2:25:18
  in the Hollywood Hills that I love. I looked at
• 2:25:22
  one of them back when I was starting to make
• 2:25:24
  that cheddar. And I was like, maybe I should live
• 2:25:27
  in Hollywood and then I could just do the store
• 2:25:30
  right there. But I was like, probably not that safe.
• 2:25:34
  I looked at the house above the store that Mitzi
• 2:25:39
  was selling. What was on Colfax? Was that what it was?
• 2:25:43
  Was that those street? It was the comic store, the
• 2:25:45
  comic house where like Kinison stayed there and Polly lived
• 2:25:49
  there for a while. But I had dogs and I
• 2:25:52
  was like, this is not enough backyard. It's too small.
• 2:25:54
  And also it's like, it's too close to the machine. Yeah.
• 2:25:57
  It's like right next to the beast. Like, I don't
• 2:25:59
  know if I want to be like right next to
• 2:26:01
  the beast. I think I'd rather be outside the beast
• 2:26:03
  and go visit like that for me, for my head.
• 2:26:06
  But I looked at a couple of houses up there
• 2:26:08
  and one of them was this house that was like
• 2:26:11
  really big. It was out of my budget really. I
• 2:26:13
  was just– I shouldn't have been looking at it. It
• 2:26:14
  was like $ 10 million. And it had crazy like concrete
• 2:26:20
  with massive windows. But it was right there on the street.
• 2:26:26
  Like you're walking on the street. There's a sidewalk. You
• 2:26:28
  could lean over and touch the front door of the house.
• 2:26:31
  I was like, this is kind of crazy to buy
• 2:26:33
  this house. And the guy was like, don't worry. We
• 2:26:35
  have a state-of-the-art security system. So I go, yeah, you
• 2:26:37
  know what that is? I go, your cameras are going
• 2:26:39
  to catch a guy with a ski mask robbing you. Yeah.
• 2:26:42
  And two weeks after I said that, the guy in
• 2:26:45
  the house got shot in it. Whoa. Two weeks. Got
• 2:26:48
  shot in the neck. Fuck. Yeah.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 5: Damn.
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. So. Hey.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: That's these places, man.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 4: But that kind of architecture I think is dope. I
• 2:27:01
  like like that crazy modern cement stuff. But for a house,
• 2:27:06
  like what you're going to live in, the reality is
• 2:27:08
  you'd probably be like, I'm sleeping in a museum. This
• 2:27:10
  is too weird. Yeah. I'd rather just have a regular house. Yeah.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: Windows are a necessity.
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 4: I just want to see stuff. I just want to
• 2:27:19
  be able to have a cup of coffee and see
• 2:27:21
  some trees. You know, let me just sit down and
• 2:27:24
  fucking collect my thoughts for the day. You know, I
• 2:27:27
  don't necessarily need to be in a fucking museum. Concrete ass, big.
• 2:27:33
  It's there's something weird about it. It's like you're too weird.
• 2:27:36
  If you live like that, you're weird, man. You're living with.
• 2:27:39
  this giant... 20-foot-high glass wall in front of you that
• 2:27:46
  looks out at the Blade Runner scape that is Los
• 2:27:49
  Angeles from the hills. Have you seen that view at night?
• 2:27:52
  Have you ever been up to a house? Oh, yeah.
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: Have you seen this house?
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's sick. I love that house.
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 3: It's known as the Oakley Founders House. I don't know
• 2:27:59
  if he still owns it.
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's up there. That house I love. See, if
• 2:28:04
  I was single and a baller, that's where I would live.
• 2:28:06
  $ 210 million. A bargain. Fucking love that shit. I see
• 2:28:14
  shit like that. I'm like, Oh my God, that's where
• 2:28:16
  I love it. But I don't want to live there
• 2:28:18
  for real. Yeah. I think after a while you would
• 2:28:20
  be like, I'd rather have a log house.
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 3: I was trying to find pictures of Kanye's concrete house,
• 2:28:25
  but this is not the one I was.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 4: That's fucking dope. I just love those kinds of houses
• 2:28:29
  that look like that. Like, especially that one, that circular one,
• 2:28:33
  the way you pull into that driveway and the, the
• 2:28:36
  entire back house faces the lights and you see the
• 2:28:40
  lights and Like, it's hard to see from photos of how,
• 2:28:43
  look how sick that looks, man. That's sick. I love that.
• 2:28:48
  But the lights from that, like, if you're up in
• 2:28:51
  the hills, you want to be above looking down. And
• 2:28:54
  it's like a movie. It's like a sci-fi movie. It's
• 2:28:56
  one of the coolest fucking views I've ever seen.
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 1: Pauly has the fucking, as crazy as it sounds, that motherfucker,
• 2:29:02
  when he made it, he bought a house that's on top, top, top, top,
• 2:29:06
  top of the Hollywood Hills.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: With that MTV money.
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Dude.
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: It's crazy he remodeled it recently when i was there
• 2:29:13
  for the festival he's like dude you gotta come see
• 2:29:15
  the house come see the house i'm like paulie i'm
• 2:29:18
  so busy that's very highly unlikely come see the house
• 2:29:22
  dude you gotta come to the house sure enough i
• 2:29:24
  went there one afternoon for a fucking coffee bro it
• 2:29:28
  is crazy he was right he's got the house he
• 2:29:32
  did it it's on top of everything so There's, if
• 2:29:36
  a robber does try to go up there, they're robbing
• 2:29:38
  someone else's house. They don't want to go to the
• 2:29:40
  tippy top of the fucking hill. That's a tough escape.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 4: That's the problem is the escape. Yeah. You want to
• 2:29:46
  be close to the bottom. Right.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 4: Speaking of which, I've been watching, I got, I went
• 2:29:52
  down a rabbit hole the other day on YouTube where
• 2:29:55
  street racers, and there's this one guy who is like
• 2:29:59
  a famous street racer because there's all these videos of him.
• 2:30:03
  He got his... His thing's set up where he can
• 2:30:07
  shut the lights off. He's got this black Corvette. I'm
• 2:30:10
  going to send this to you, Jamie. I think I've
• 2:30:12
  seen this guy. Yeah, his name is really slow. Like R-Y-L-S-L-O.
• 2:30:21
  And he's got videos of these cop encounters. So he
• 2:30:25
  baits cops and then goes on these mad runs. And
• 2:30:28
  you watch it and you go, holy shit, man. Oh,
• 2:30:31
  I love it. Car's on the screen. Yes, this is
• 2:30:34
  the dude. This is about him, not just one. Yeah,
• 2:30:38
  this is– well, he's like a legend online because he
• 2:30:41
  does interviews only with a voice changer. Where it takes
• 2:30:45
  his voice and it makes it like that. Where he
• 2:30:48
  describes all the modifications that he did to his car.
• 2:30:51
  But he puts a 3D camera on the back of
• 2:30:54
  his car. And they have those things where you stick
• 2:30:57
  it on the back of your car. And he gives
• 2:30:59
  you a 3D view of the automobile. And he has
• 2:31:02
  video of the cops like flashing their lights. And his
• 2:31:06
  car has got a thousand plus horsepower. So these poor
• 2:31:09
  cops and they're like 300 horsepower fucking crown Victoria. They
• 2:31:14
  try to chase this guy. He just disappears. And then
• 2:31:17
  once he gets out of the line, like go back
• 2:31:20
  to that video where it was before. Watch this. I mean, it's,
• 2:31:23
  this is, it's just edited. It's not his videos. It's
• 2:31:25
  just someone. I understand. But if you just, I know
• 2:31:27
  this video, but if you, what, what, what he does
• 2:31:29
  is they start pulling them over and they, In the
• 2:31:32
  beginning when they pull him over, he hits the gas
• 2:31:34
  and then shuts his lights off. Did you pass that spot?
• 2:31:37
  Here it is. So this is it. So they hit
• 2:31:40
  the lights and he's like, see ya. Are they going
• 2:31:44
  to show it? Yes, this is not the– Okay, so
• 2:31:46
  it's not the compilation. So when he does it and
• 2:31:49
  he hits the gas, he gets– here it is. He
• 2:31:52
  gets far enough away from them. They're not showing it.
• 2:31:55
  These motherfuckers. They have to edit their own shit. Leaving
• 2:31:58
  it alone is better. So he gets ahead of everybody
• 2:32:01
  and then just he has a button where it kills
• 2:32:03
  his headlights and he's using night vision. Oh, wow. Yeah,
• 2:32:08
  it's nuts. So is this it? Yeah. He enters ghost
• 2:32:11
  mode here. Yes, this is it. So this is this guy.
• 2:32:14
  So his license plate says will run. It's a fake
• 2:32:18
  license plate. The cops get up behind him. They hit
• 2:32:20
  the lights, and he goes, bye. And the cops realize
• 2:32:24
  there's no way to catch this guy. Look at that.
• 2:32:28
  Lights go out, and he's gone. And he's flashing lights
• 2:32:32
  on people to get them the fuck out of the way,
• 2:32:34
  and there's no way to catch him. And then he
• 2:32:36
  bangs U-turns. He knows where he's going. He plots it out.
• 2:32:40
  And the thing is he's filming this and uploading it.
• 2:32:44
  So he's got to hide his identity through how many
• 2:32:46
  different channels. How does Instagram not know who he is?
• 2:32:49
  How is he posting? I guess he's using a VPN.
• 2:32:52
  He's probably using a proxy and he's probably going through
• 2:32:55
  some other country or something. If he's smart, if he's
• 2:32:57
  smart enough to avoid detection, but he just has these
• 2:33:02
  fucking crazy car bills. Like he's got a Calvo Viper
• 2:33:06
  that has like, I mean, I don't know how many
• 2:33:09
  fucking horsepower that thing has. But they make some of
• 2:33:13
  these Calvo Vipers. It's a company here in Texas. They
• 2:33:16
  make Vipers that have 2,000 horsepower. Damn. What? Like, what
• 2:33:21
  the fuck are you talking about? Does anybody know where?
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 3: Does he always do it in the same city?
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 4: I think he's in the Dallas area. How fun. Well, yeah. Well,
• 2:33:29
  not good if you kill somebody. But it's very spooky. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:33:36
  It's nuts, man. Because this fucking dude really knows how
• 2:33:40
  to drive, too. And you see these poor cops, and
• 2:33:43
  one of them, the cops wipe out. They slam into
• 2:33:44
  another car. Oh, shit. They're trying to pass by these cones,
• 2:33:48
  and the road cuts off, and the cop hits the cones,
• 2:33:51
  then loses control of his car and slams into another car.
• 2:33:53
  So people can fucking die, especially if he runs a
• 2:33:58
  red light, and he runs a lot of them, and
• 2:34:00
  someone's being an idiot. Maybe someone's doing exactly what he's
• 2:34:03
  doing while he's running the red light.
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: Dude, you have to see what Kanye's doing right now.
• 2:34:07
  It's a historical moment in all of art. Unbelievable.
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You said that he's standing on the globe, right?
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: Well, not only that, he thought entire everything is a
• 2:34:18
  super production and it's all him. Like you could tell
• 2:34:21
  he's made every decision and tweaked everything to the, to
• 2:34:26
  the color of everything, to when it happens, to how
• 2:34:28
  it happens, that it's not too much. He's not overwhelming
• 2:34:31
  the senses with lasers and lights and all of this.
• 2:34:34
  It's all so strategic, but most importantly, he, First of all,
• 2:34:39
  it's the fucking greatest production I've ever seen of anything.
• 2:34:43
  And I come from Pink Floyd land, where the live
• 2:34:45
  show has to be ahead of its time and state
• 2:34:47
  of the art and everything for my mind to be blown.
• 2:34:51
  And I was expecting this to be like every other
• 2:34:54
  rap concert that I've seen, which is going to be
• 2:34:56
  fun and good and maybe great. Of course, it'll be great.
• 2:35:00
  But this was like a thousand times my expectations. Because
• 2:35:04
  first of all, he's doing pop-up shows at stadiums, which
• 2:35:07
  is crazy. He announces it a week or two in advance.
• 2:35:10
  And the stadium's like, okay, we're sitting empty that night.
• 2:35:13
  We'd love to sell beer and water and get a
• 2:35:16
  percentage of merch, right? How these venues work. They don't
• 2:35:19
  give a fuck. And he's not promoting it. Everyone else
• 2:35:22
  that's been to one or seen one is promoting it.
• 2:35:25
  And then the mayor of whatever city or whatever leftist person,
• 2:35:31
  whether it be the governor of that state or whatever,
• 2:35:32
  is like, this shouldn't be happening. So they're promoting it
• 2:35:35
  for him. And it's filled to the top of the
• 2:35:38
  fucking stadium, whereas even Pink Floyd or the Rolling Stones
• 2:35:42
  or whoever announces a tour all at once and goes, hey,
• 2:35:45
  buy tickets. I'm on tour. Pretty please come.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: He's just like San Antonio, July 4th.
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 4: Boom.
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 1: A week ago, literally. And what's crazy is that my
• 2:35:56
  buddy got me tickets to go see him in Tampa
• 2:36:00
  because as all we knew is that he was going
• 2:36:02
  to Tampa. And so there I was and I'm looking
• 2:36:06
  and it's filled to the top and the floor is
• 2:36:10
  filled and he doesn't stop. He doesn't take a break.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 4: There it is.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: I saw that on Instagram after his first one that
• 2:36:18
  he did. I think it was in LA. And I'm like, oh,
• 2:36:20
  that's crazy. I need to see this.
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 4: That is nuts. That stage is nuts.
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: But these pictures and videos do not do any justice
• 2:36:29
  to what is happening sound-wise, energy-wise.
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 4: Just that stage alone is fucking insane.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. And he enters at the... He walks through
• 2:36:40
  the crowd because obviously it's in the round. He comes
• 2:36:43
  out and you hear a pop from one side because
• 2:36:46
  they can kind of see him. And then the globe
• 2:36:48
  turns on and he waits until it's dark. So he
• 2:36:52
  enters at one point And then inside is a lift
• 2:36:59
  that only takes him. So, like, there's no one that
• 2:37:01
  can storm that stage or anything because it's inflatable on
• 2:37:05
  the outside. So it's impossible to, you know, storm the
• 2:37:11
  stage or anything like that. And he's the only one
• 2:37:14
  that has access to the lift, obviously. And he has
• 2:37:16
  a tether that he's attached to so that he doesn't
• 2:37:19
  go off or anything.
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 4: So he doesn't fall into the balloon.
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And it is the most diabolical show I've ever
• 2:37:27
  seen in my entire life ever. And that includes all.
• 2:37:30
  the fucking everythings. And again, I come from the school
• 2:37:33
  of Pink Floyd, which is always 10, 20 years ahead
• 2:37:36
  of its time production wise. And this was fucking nuts
• 2:37:41
  because he does not stop. He does not take a break.
• 2:37:44
  He doesn't go, thank you guys for coming out until
• 2:37:46
  the very end in which he goes, it's all about love.
• 2:37:49
  I love you guys. Thanks for sticking with me all
• 2:37:51
  these years when all these people said this. And then
• 2:37:53
  by that point, two and a half hours in when
• 2:37:55
  he's saying that, you're just like, you got to be
• 2:37:57
  fucking kidding me.
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 4: Well, we realized the bulk of his work, how many
• 2:38:01
  bangers that guy has. It's nuts. Bangers.
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: And I, as an experiment, took my one buddy who
• 2:38:09
  said that, you know, part of the group was my
• 2:38:12
  one friend who said, He's always been like, I don't know,
• 2:38:14
  you fucking love Kanye. I mean, not really my thing.
• 2:38:18
  But he's just not really a rap fan is the reality.
• 2:38:22
  So I invited him on this trip and his mind
• 2:38:25
  was fucking... Now he's a diehard Kanye fan. Now he's
• 2:38:27
  going back and, you know, realizing that he's always been
• 2:38:32
  a Kanye fan. Like, it's such a crazy fucking thing
• 2:38:35
  because not only does he have hits on hits on hits,
• 2:38:38
  but he... does not stop in between songs because some
• 2:38:43
  of his beats kind of correlate or this and that
• 2:38:46
  he'll literally just keep going and going and going until
• 2:38:50
  his amazing on his new album. He has this keyboardist
• 2:38:55
  with one of those like crazy blow into tube instrument things.
• 2:38:59
  I don't know what it's called, but he has a solo,
• 2:39:02
  a big one on one of the songs, which is
• 2:39:05
  gives Kanye a, a minute and a half to catch
• 2:39:08
  his breath, an hour and a half into non-stop going.
• 2:39:13
  And also, on top of all that, you know, a
• 2:39:16
  rap concert's a rap concert, but Kanye's the greatest producer
• 2:39:19
  of all time in that industry. So every noise that's happening,
• 2:39:24
  even if he's not talking or singing or rapping into
• 2:39:28
  a microphone... is all him and him only. You know
• 2:39:32
  what I mean? Like, he might get an idea or
• 2:39:35
  an inspiration, as we talked about, or he's a master
• 2:39:38
  of sampling old hit songs and having them be in
• 2:39:42
  the backbone of the thing and everything. But this is...
• 2:39:45
  It's just a whole nother level of absolute insanity. Like,
• 2:39:49
  I thought I was going to go there and be like, yeah,
• 2:39:51
  and maybe... you know, move a little bit or sing
• 2:39:53
  along or whatever. And instead my jaw was dropped the
• 2:39:56
  entire time.
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 4: Is there anybody that ever bounced back from being canceled
• 2:40:00
  like him?
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: And that's really the underlying thing. There's this feeling of
• 2:40:05
  loyalty that's there and we're right. You know what I mean?
• 2:40:10
  There's a feeling that everybody there is like, they're correct.
• 2:40:15
  Does that make sense?
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 1: I saw a breakdown of it because my algorithms feeding
• 2:40:19
  me Kanye stuff nonstop since I went to it because
• 2:40:22
  somehow fucking Instagram knows and whatever. And I watched a
• 2:40:26
  breakdown of it talking about how like it's like this
• 2:40:30
  psychiatrist or energy specialist or something that's talking about how
• 2:40:34
  and why this is the craziest concert ever done before.
• 2:40:38
  And she breaks it down and goes, people that like
• 2:40:42
  Kanye know believe in themselves because if Kanye saying I'm
• 2:40:49
  the greatest, I'm the man, I'm a God, all of
• 2:40:52
  these things makes you not like him and you insecure,
• 2:40:57
  you're insecure. Does that make sense? Like, it's like he,
• 2:41:01
  if that turns you off to somebody, then you don't
• 2:41:04
  really like yourself that much.
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 4: Why do you think that?
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 1: Well, again, this was someone else's psychological breakdown of it,
• 2:41:11
  and I'm probably not explaining it correct because I was
• 2:41:13
  stoned on a couch.
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 4: I see what they were saying to try to defend him,
• 2:41:17
  but there's some people that just get turned off by
• 2:41:19
  that kind of braggadocious rap music. I don't. Right. I
• 2:41:25
  love that shit. I love 90s hip-hop, talking about how
• 2:41:30
  great they are. I love it. Yeah. I'm a giant
• 2:41:33
  fan of that shit.
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 4: You know, I think like some of my favorite rap lyrics,
• 2:41:38
  like some of Nas's lyrics, just him talking about how
• 2:41:40
  he's the shit.
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 4: I don't mind it at all. But it's like it's
• 2:41:46
  when you're singing along to that stuff and you're listening
• 2:41:49
  to that stuff, like you're feeling what that guy's feeling
• 2:41:52
  when he's saying it. And if his raps or if
• 2:41:54
  his rhymes are really hitting, especially like Kanye or any
• 2:41:59
  of the greats, you know, Biggie, Tupac, Nas, like when
• 2:42:02
  they're nailed, it's like, whoo. Oh, my God. Oh, with
• 2:42:07
  good lyrics and good execution. It's a it's a fucking
• 2:42:10
  amazing art form, even if USA really did create it. Yeah,
• 2:42:15
  I don't I don't want to believe that. You know,
• 2:42:18
  I think they probably very they promoted it. What's really
• 2:42:21
  interesting is the lack of big rock and roll bands.
• 2:42:24
  I know Jamie's kind of defended this, but I think
• 2:42:27
  it's a fact. Oh, no, no doubt. There's less big
• 2:42:30
  rock and roll bands than when we were a kid.
• 2:42:32
  When we were a kid, rock and roll was everything.
• 2:42:35
  It was like rock and roll. And if you like
• 2:42:36
  rock and rap, like you are a weirdo, you know?
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:42:40
  Speaker 4: Like I really became a rap fan, like almost like silently,
• 2:42:45
  like secretly. Because you had to be a rock fan.
• 2:42:50
  If you loved rock music and you went to rock concerts,
• 2:42:53
  like that's all you liked. But I was like, yeah,
• 2:42:54
  but this is good too.
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 4: You know, I'd like listen to Ghetto Boys. I'd be like,
• 2:42:58
  you gotta listen to this. Come listen to this. Shit,
• 2:42:59
  it's awesome. Yeah.
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, my range is absolutely ridiculous.
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 4: Well, our green room.
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 1: I just got Roy Orbison on vinyl.
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Pretty woman.
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Walking down. And again, that's one.
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 4: Are we going to be in trouble for that? Probably.
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 3: Fuck.
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 4: Fuck.
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: And again, pretty woman, much like. Pink Floyd's wish you
• 2:43:22
  were here is like one of my, when you get
• 2:43:24
  into the radio stuff, it's kind of funny how some
• 2:43:26
  bands and musicians get like typecasted by their hit. Whereas
• 2:43:31
  like pretty woman's kind of repetitive and easy, even though
• 2:43:34
  it's a jam. Right. But his other songs that like,
• 2:43:38
  I hadn't even heard before. Cause I'm like, this guy
• 2:43:41
  seems like he has some fucking some hits and he does, man. And, uh,
• 2:43:47
  you know, I, what I mean by the Pink Floyd
• 2:43:49
  thing is it always fascinated me that People go, oh, yeah,
• 2:43:52
  I like Pink Floyd, Wish You Were Here, Another Brick
• 2:43:54
  on the Wall. And it's like, damn it. It's because
• 2:43:56
  those are their radio songs because they can't play an
• 2:44:00
  11-minute long Shine On You Crazy Diamond or all their
• 2:44:04
  real hits, that they're real echoes, which is like 17
• 2:44:07
  minutes and goes slow and fast and bluesy and then
• 2:44:11
  jazzy and this and that.
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there were so many songs like that, especially from
• 2:44:16
  like the 70s, where they just took wild chances and
• 2:44:19
  had long-ass songs. Like famously Freebird, like record executives are
• 2:44:25
  telling them like the beginning of it is too slow.
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 4: And they're like, nope, this is the song.
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 4: This is what it is.
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 1: Bohemian Rhapsody.
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 4: Yep. There's another one. Yeah. Whole Lotta Love.
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 4: Whole Lotta Love is a minute and a half of
• 2:44:39
  fuck sounds. And cymbals and shit. It's weird.
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 1: I only recently got to see the Queen movie, whatever
• 2:44:48
  that is. Is that Bohemian Rhapsody?
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 4: I believe so.
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 1: Whatever they call it.
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen it. Yeah.
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I walked in on a part where they're at
• 2:44:57
  the record executive's office. And he's going, this can't be
• 2:45:01
  the main single off of this thing. And Freddie Mercury's like, dude,
• 2:45:07
  it fucking has to. And I'm obviously not quoting this.
• 2:45:12
  And the record exec's like, man, you're saying gibberish at points.
• 2:45:16
  It's slow with a piano. You're saying things that don't
• 2:45:20
  even make sense. And it's fucking eight minutes long. Like,
• 2:45:23
  what are you thinking? And they're arguing back and forth
• 2:45:26
  and back and forth. And his bass player, guitarist, or
• 2:45:29
  one of the guys that's in the meeting with this
• 2:45:31
  record exec sitting behind a big fancy desk points at
• 2:45:34
  the wall and goes, so you were the record exec
• 2:45:36
  that made this, huh? And he points at Dark Side
• 2:45:38
  of the Moon. And you see the record exec go, oh, fuck.
• 2:45:42
  Because what the fuck was that? It starts with a heartbeat,
• 2:45:47
  has no words for the first however long.
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 4: Also, what is the deal with it aligning with The
• 2:45:53
  Wizard of Oz?
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 5: Crazy.
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 4: Roger says it's just coincidental.
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 4: But it seems like the universe organized it. Yeah. It
• 2:46:02
  almost seems like evidence of the simulation. Yep. Because it's
• 2:46:05
  so good. The way it lines up, it's too good.
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 1: I've always said it's the craziest coincidence of all times.
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's evidence of the simulation. There's something
• 2:46:15
  about it. There's evidence of some weird, bizarre synchronicity between
• 2:46:19
  those two pieces of art.
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, producing that would have been near impossible.
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 4: Impossible. Not that you couldn't, but just the amount of
• 2:46:26
  planning and figuring things out and the.
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 3: Technology then would have been so hard to do.
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so hard. Pink Floyd would have had to, they
• 2:46:33
  would have literally have to watch it and then go
• 2:46:36
  over each beat. And decide... How.
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 3: High was the person that figured it out, too?
• 2:46:42
  Speaker 4: Right. Right. How do you know? Hold on.
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 3: It's still going.
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 4: Right. 45 minutes.
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 4: But meanwhile, it's perfect. Like, we've watched it before. Yeah.
• 2:46:52
  It's perfect.
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 1: The lyrics are the scariest part.
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 5: God.
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 1: Which one is which?
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 1: At one point when... Only when... The only moment when
• 2:47:01
  both the good witch and the bad witch are there.
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nuts. And.
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 1: The wildest one to me is always when she's balancing
• 2:47:09
  on the thing, you know, in black and white and
• 2:47:11
  with the other farmers around and on the run, that
• 2:47:14
  crazy blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub starts and
• 2:47:16
  she falls off at that exact moment Chaos is happening.
• 2:47:20
  It's crazy.
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 3: Is there a why in that conspiracy? You know, like
• 2:47:25
  why would they have done that just to do it?
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 4: Just for funsies. Yeah. Well, I mean, Roger water says
• 2:47:34
  it was an accident.
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying like, I know, I know. The conspiracy theorists.
• 2:47:38
  I don't know. I mean, I would imagine they think that...
• 2:47:42
  The people that believed that it was some sort of
• 2:47:44
  a coordinated conspiracy, it's like, why wouldn't they say that?
• 2:47:48
  Why wouldn't they just say, we lined it up with
• 2:47:51
  The Wizard of Oz? Yeah, if they said that, it
• 2:47:53
  would make more people watch it and more people listen.
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 1: Well, they did pretty good off of it.
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they did pretty good. Who are we to give
• 2:48:01
  them advice? Yeah. Speaking of doing pretty good, you're fucking
• 2:48:03
  killing it, dude. Congratulations.
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy.
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 4: It's awesome watching it all.
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 1: Thank you, man.
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 4: You're taking all the hits. Keep on moving. Keep on trucking.
• 2:48:10
  Just makes it stronger.
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 1: On to the next one.
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 4: Makes the jokes better. New jokes are killing it. Yeah. Yeah,
• 2:48:15
  it's fun. We're having a good time. Yeah.
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Wednesdays are the best. Working them out at
• 2:48:19
  the mothership.
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir. All right. I appreciate you, brother.
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 1: Thank you, man.
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 5: Hell yeah.
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 4: Bye, everybody. Bye.