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- 0:05Speaker 1: Soon.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Oser.
- 0:15Speaker 3: All Right, welcome to this week's Ozone podcast, and I'm
- 0:18Speaker 3: joined this week by Jaguars left tackle Camra Robinson. I'm
- 0:21Speaker 3: excited about this because, as I told him right before
- 0:24Speaker 3: the start, if I'd ask Cam to come in here
- 0:28Speaker 3: six seven years ago when he first got here, might
- 0:31Speaker 3: have gotten an eye roll, might not have gotten a
- 0:33Speaker 3: guy to show up because it just didn't like doing it.
- 0:36Speaker 3: First of all, welcome in, and I appreciate you doing this.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no problem.
- 0:41Speaker 3: Am I right in that because you've become sort of
- 0:44Speaker 3: a guy that the media likes talking to. And I
- 0:46Speaker 3: know you probably don't love it. You don't mind it
- 0:49Speaker 3: like you were, ye talk about that change.
- 0:52Speaker 2: A little bit.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Oh No, I think it's just something that happened naturally.
- 0:56Speaker 1: I'm still not the most.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Oh.
- 0:59Speaker 1: I think it's just my confort level. Should have to
- 1:00Speaker 1: get extremely comfortable with people just because I mean, like
- 1:03Speaker 1: if you, for example, if you see me in the
- 1:05Speaker 1: locker room, just like on an everyday basis, then like
- 1:07Speaker 1: my teammates have known about my personality for right forever.
- 1:10Speaker 1: It's because I'm around them the most and that they
- 1:12Speaker 1: see it a lot and they see me a lot.
- 1:14Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's just I think that's the
- 1:16Speaker 1: only thing that's really changed, honestly, got you.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Is it crazy to think I was prepping for this
- 1:22Speaker 3: last night seventh year. I assume it's gone by in
- 1:26Speaker 3: a blank.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Flowing by. It's it's flowing by. I can't even I
- 1:29Speaker 1: can't even can't even explain it. It's been crazy.
- 1:32Speaker 2: But it's like you blame come in right, that's probably
- 1:35Speaker 2: told you that.
- 1:40Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was that, I didn't
- 1:41Speaker 1: believe them. It's just kind of something that when you
- 1:43Speaker 1: when you're that young, you don't see you don't see
- 1:44Speaker 1: the the you don't even you you don't know that,
- 1:47Speaker 1: you don't know. You just kind of you just kind
- 1:49Speaker 1: of rolling with the punches and just kind of just
- 1:51Speaker 1: kind of going with it and just kind of going
- 1:53Speaker 1: with the flow. The older you get, you kind of
- 1:55Speaker 1: your you're you kind of learn being the moment more
- 1:58Speaker 1: appreciate every situation because you I mean, you know, you're
- 2:02Speaker 1: closer to being on the back end and you watch
- 2:04Speaker 1: to the front of you. So yeah, I think that's
- 2:07Speaker 1: just something that you eventually started to develop appreciation for
- 2:11Speaker 1: and that you just everything is the most important part
- 2:13Speaker 1: is the most important important point is the point where
- 2:17Speaker 1: right now is just being in the moment.
- 2:19Speaker 3: I was thinking about this last night, and I guess
- 2:21Speaker 3: your career you have seen and been through just personally,
- 2:27Speaker 3: I'm talking about you tear your ACL and year two
- 2:31Speaker 3: have you come back from that? Have an injury last year?
- 2:35Speaker 3: Also you play on the franchise tag, you wait and
- 2:41Speaker 3: get the big contract. I guess my point is you've
- 2:44Speaker 3: sort of seen everything the NFL has to offer on
- 2:47Speaker 3: that front.
- 2:49Speaker 2: What's the key to sort of making it through a
- 2:52Speaker 2: starter your whole career.
- 2:55Speaker 3: What do you know about the NFL now that you
- 2:58Speaker 3: didn't know when you were a kid?
- 3:02Speaker 2: Just how to make it? I guess because you're a pro.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I think, well, the the thing I did was when
- 3:09Speaker 1: I first got in, I just kind of followed the guy.
- 3:12Speaker 1: I mean, because you're you're green, and you just I
- 3:14Speaker 1: think when you first came you just trying to be
- 3:16Speaker 1: a spongor just taking as much as possible. But I
- 3:18Speaker 1: think what I really just kind of did a good
- 3:20Speaker 1: job of is just paying paying attention to the older
- 3:22Speaker 1: guys and just how they approached every day guys like, really,
- 3:26Speaker 1: my guy, Lender was my lender, was my I still
- 3:29Speaker 1: talk to him to this day. That was my That
- 3:31Speaker 1: was my guy. I love him to death, and that
- 3:34Speaker 1: was who I just kind of like followed behind and
- 3:36Speaker 1: just kind of I don't even know if he knows.
- 3:37Speaker 1: I don't even know if he knows how much I
- 3:39Speaker 1: took from him or how much I but I was
- 3:42Speaker 1: just not just watching everything he did and the way
- 3:44Speaker 1: he went about his business on the day to day,
- 3:45Speaker 1: and the way the way he approached everything professionally, and
- 3:51Speaker 1: just the way, just the way he carried hisself on
- 3:53Speaker 1: and off the field.
- 3:55Speaker 3: What's the difference in, uh, the ability to prepare hair,
- 4:01Speaker 3: the ability to know what's going on for a rookie
- 4:06Speaker 3: compared to what you are now. Well, just to sort
- 4:09Speaker 3: of get it and know how to go perform and
- 4:13Speaker 3: be consistent every week.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Right, I think what you do is well when you're younger,
- 4:18Speaker 1: you don't even when it comes to preparation, I don't even.
- 4:20Speaker 1: I think you're just trying to find yourself. You're just
- 4:22Speaker 1: trying to find like your your routine and just kind
- 4:25Speaker 1: of trying to find what works for you. The older
- 4:27Speaker 1: you get, you kind of get a grip onto what
- 4:29Speaker 1: works for you and kind of what serves you best,
- 4:32Speaker 1: and you just kind of I think you just kind
- 4:34Speaker 1: of find that sweet spot and just kind of stay
- 4:36Speaker 1: in it. I mean, if you need to make a tweets,
- 4:39Speaker 1: if you feel like you need to make tweets here
- 4:40Speaker 1: and there. Of course there's always space to do that,
- 4:43Speaker 1: and there's always opportunities to do that. But I think
- 4:45Speaker 1: it's just finding a finding a routine, finding finding that balance,
- 4:49Speaker 1: and just just sticking to it.
- 4:52Speaker 3: I'm always fascinated to talk to Alabama guys. There's such
- 4:54Speaker 3: a I guess the fraternity maybe the way Miami used
- 4:57Speaker 3: to be. There's such a fraternity among you as such
- 5:01Speaker 3: a pride. How is playing their influenced your career?
- 5:08Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think it's funny because I think
- 5:10Speaker 1: about this a lot, especially recently. I think what I
- 5:14Speaker 1: what I maybe took from Coach Saban is just the
- 5:15Speaker 1: whole program there is. It's honestly just to just the
- 5:21Speaker 1: worker's attitude and the never being satisfied, never feeling like
- 5:25Speaker 1: you got it, or never feeling like you got a
- 5:27Speaker 1: grip on it, or never feeling like you It's a
- 5:29Speaker 1: funny story. I remember so after my sophomore year, we
- 5:34Speaker 1: had won we won a national championship. We had played
- 5:36Speaker 1: Clemson and we beat him. Every won a national championship.
- 5:39Speaker 1: And so we're in our meeting I think it was
- 5:40Speaker 1: like that Monday or two whatever, that next that next
- 5:43Speaker 1: team meeting, and everyone's before everyone's always sitting in the
- 5:46Speaker 1: team meeting room. And then he comes walking in and
- 5:48Speaker 1: he addresses the team. So we're all sitting there, it's
- 5:50Speaker 1: kind of laughing, chopping it up and just enjoying ourselves.
- 5:53Speaker 1: And he walks in the room and he's talking and
- 5:55Speaker 1: we're still like loud, and he's like, I don't understand
- 5:59Speaker 1: while we walk while we're so damn happy. We really
- 6:01Speaker 1: didn't play that well. I was just like I was
- 6:05Speaker 1: just like like, man, like, we just want a national championship.
- 6:08Speaker 1: And still the only thing is I mean, of course
- 6:10Speaker 1: he allowed us to, He allowed us room to celebrate
- 6:13Speaker 1: and enjoy it and do all that. But he just
- 6:14Speaker 1: always did a really good job of keeping us with
- 6:17Speaker 1: that worker's mentality and with that just never never getting complacent,
- 6:20Speaker 1: no complacency, never feeling like you got it. It's always
- 6:23Speaker 1: something to get better, and there's always something to work
- 6:25Speaker 1: on and I honestly, just the workers mentality I think
- 6:28Speaker 1: is what I took most from him.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Are there's still times you hear him in your head
- 6:31Speaker 2: all the time.
- 6:35Speaker 1: I think it's just I don't even know if it's
- 6:36Speaker 1: that I hear things. I don't even know if it's
- 6:38Speaker 1: that I hear him in my head. It's just so
- 6:42Speaker 1: much stuff that he said stuck with me, and it's
- 6:44Speaker 1: just that constantly replays in my mind.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Yeah, you're walking through maybe doing good work out that day, like, well,
- 6:50Speaker 3: if I did that, he's gonna be yeah.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. It's just kind of like it's just
- 6:55Speaker 1: kind of like he instilled that. It's just like he
- 6:56Speaker 1: instilled a certain just like a certain worker, blue collar attitude.
- 7:00Speaker 1: It's not just gonna happen. You've got to work for it,
- 7:02Speaker 1: and every and everything you do and what you're doing
- 7:04Speaker 1: practice is what you're going to do in the game.
- 7:06Speaker 1: There's no switch. You can't just turn it on and
- 7:08Speaker 1: just and just do what you want in a game.
- 7:11Speaker 1: You gotta work on what you want to get better.
- 7:13Speaker 1: And yeah, I think just that just that worker's attitude.
- 7:17Speaker 3: I know you're a guy who follows the league, you're
- 7:20Speaker 3: a fan of the league. So I assume you watch
- 7:23Speaker 3: analysis some give me. I'm always probably more with offensive
- 7:29Speaker 3: lineman than any of the position. I'm always fascinated by
- 7:33Speaker 3: out of the analysis that you see how much is.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Correct, as far as as far as well just when
- 7:40Speaker 2: people get on there and.
- 7:41Speaker 1: Say, hey, oh other people like all us.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Yeah, this lineman did this, because I know from experience
- 7:47Speaker 3: that it's so hard for outsiders, and I think you
- 7:50Speaker 3: guys get that as you get older. It's hard for
- 7:53Speaker 3: outsiders to analyze you guys, because you got to do it.
- 7:56Speaker 3: But you don't understand the blocking scheme.
- 8:00Speaker 1: It's just a lot that goes into it. I honestly don't.
- 8:04Speaker 1: There's a lot of analysts that really do a good
- 8:06Speaker 1: do a good job, and then they know their stuff
- 8:07Speaker 1: and they really lock in and they really focus on
- 8:11Speaker 1: on their job, and I think it's just something. It's
- 8:13Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be.
- 8:14Speaker 2: What year do you learn to shut it out?
- 8:17Speaker 1: It's gonna take it. It's gonna take it. For me,
- 8:19Speaker 1: it took I think it was year four or five
- 8:23Speaker 1: to where you just kind of get like, man, I
- 8:25Speaker 1: don't care, Like I don't care what people think. I
- 8:27Speaker 1: don't care because I mean, I think the natural instinct
- 8:29Speaker 1: for any player, probably any person in general, is you
- 8:33Speaker 1: want to be likes. So you want to be you
- 8:35Speaker 1: want to feel like you're appreciated, and you want to
- 8:36Speaker 1: feel like you're But I think once you get over
- 8:38Speaker 1: the the the that mental hurdle of just everybody not
- 8:42Speaker 1: gonna like, everybody not gonna like, it's always it's always
- 8:44Speaker 1: not it's never gonna be all good.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Like, you finally learn that no matter how well you play,
- 8:48Speaker 3: it's never.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Going to be all good like. Somebody's gonna have something
- 8:51Speaker 1: to say. But I think the point the point where
- 8:53Speaker 1: I got to that point where I was just like, bro,
- 8:55Speaker 1: I don't care, it was probably year four, year five.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Because you knew.
- 9:00Speaker 3: I guess you learn that you're going to get the
- 9:02Speaker 3: feedback that you want and need that matters.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Yep, while your teammates, while you're in the building.
- 9:08Speaker 3: So you learn to sort of just trust that and
- 9:13Speaker 3: listen to the cliche you can't worry about the haters.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was not even the yeah, yeah, wonderful,
- 9:19Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Definitely not. But I think
- 9:20Speaker 1: it's just the fact that you just learn who's in
- 9:23Speaker 1: You learn whose opinion is actually like important, right, And
- 9:29Speaker 1: it's just, like I mentioned, that natural instinct to want
- 9:31Speaker 1: everybody to like you want everybody to say nothing but
- 9:34Speaker 1: good stuff about you. I won't never, but I think
- 9:36Speaker 1: once you just kind of get over that. And I
- 9:38Speaker 1: think the fun part is you can kind of notice
- 9:40Speaker 1: it when it happens for guys. And I know for
- 9:41Speaker 1: me it was sure the year for it, that year
- 9:44Speaker 1: four or year five, And I honestly think that's when
- 9:46Speaker 1: my game started to take even more steps and just
- 9:48Speaker 1: kind of started to get better and better every year.
- 9:51Speaker 2: That's when you know you're a pro. Right, That's that's
- 9:53Speaker 2: sort of the.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's part of it.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Now. Remember when I first got back here in twenty eleven,
- 9:58Speaker 3: David Garrard saying something to me the lines of you
- 10:01Speaker 3: can see a quarterback got criticized all the time. Offensive
- 10:04Speaker 3: linemen are always criticized because if you give up a
- 10:06Speaker 3: sack out of seventy plays, you've had a bad game.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Right, So it's the only position you can lose. You
- 10:11Speaker 1: can win ninety something percent of your reps.
- 10:13Speaker 3: And consider that'll tell you say it to me all
- 10:15Speaker 3: the time, he said, if if if, if a linebacker
- 10:19Speaker 3: had as good a game as I did. Oh pro right,
- 10:24Speaker 3: for a linebacker, you can make it up because you
- 10:26Speaker 3: can go force a fumble and you've had a great game.
- 10:28Speaker 3: You have a lowsy game, you get interception, all of
- 10:30Speaker 3: a sudden, you're a hero. So out of all the
- 10:33Speaker 3: guys on this team, everybody likes football. Everybody loves football.
- 10:37Speaker 3: From listening to teammates and from being around you, it
- 10:42Speaker 3: seems like you're never.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Happier than when you're playing. You follow me, Yeah, Am
- 10:46Speaker 2: I reading that right?
- 10:47Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it's just not even well, I don't
- 10:49Speaker 1: even know if it's that I'm never happier. That's just
- 10:51Speaker 1: when I can become like that's just when I can
- 10:55Speaker 1: like cut it all. That's just when I can just
- 10:56Speaker 1: like cut loose, Like, no, not a worry in the world.
- 10:59Speaker 1: I'm not worried about anything going on off the field.
- 11:02Speaker 1: I'm not worried about like when I'm on the field.
- 11:04Speaker 1: The only thing that matters is what's happening on the field.
- 11:07Speaker 1: And so I think I just trying to I try
- 11:09Speaker 1: to keep it to the point of when you were,
- 11:13Speaker 1: however old you were when you started playing this game.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Five six, seven, however old you were you were you
- 11:18Speaker 1: started playing the game because it was fun, right, So
- 11:20Speaker 1: I think it's important to not because I think in
- 11:23Speaker 1: my couple, like a couple of year stretches we had
- 11:27Speaker 1: around here, it could kind of start it was rough
- 11:29Speaker 1: and it's just like damn like whatever, like you can
- 11:32Speaker 1: kind of start to lose that. So I think I
- 11:34Speaker 1: kind of just kind of wanted to make a commitment
- 11:36Speaker 1: of myself to never lose the never lose the reason
- 11:40Speaker 1: of my wife why I started playing the game in
- 11:42Speaker 1: the first place. So when I'm on the field, I'm.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Just having a ball and that comes out.
- 11:48Speaker 3: I talked to earlier this year about and I assume
- 11:51Speaker 3: of your teammates about I guess sort of camisms during
- 11:54Speaker 3: the game. Yeah, And would you consider yourself a trash taller,
- 12:01Speaker 3: a talker or because you have some dialogue going during
- 12:04Speaker 3: the game.
- 12:05Speaker 1: I'm not a trap. I think it's just more casual.
- 12:07Speaker 1: I think I'm more casual talk. If somebody starts talking
- 12:09Speaker 1: crazy to me, I'll probably I'm definitely gonna say something back.
- 12:13Speaker 1: But just more the older I get, it just turns
- 12:16Speaker 1: into more like casual talk. Because one thing I noticed
- 12:18Speaker 1: is that all that talking makes you tired. Once you're
- 12:22Speaker 1: tired old, kind of well, when you get older, you
- 12:26Speaker 1: just kind of learned the ways to kind of preserve
- 12:28Speaker 1: as much as much as you can because you know
- 12:30Speaker 1: you're gonna need all right, Yeah, yeah, because you know
- 12:32Speaker 1: you're gonna need it. So yeah, I think the game,
- 12:35Speaker 1: the game slows down and you kind of just start
- 12:37Speaker 1: to see everything slower, and it's it's honestly, actually just
- 12:40Speaker 1: a lot more like casual conversation.
- 12:42Speaker 3: But your teammates talk a lot about and even when
- 12:44Speaker 3: you were a rookie, I remember Nate Hackett telling me
- 12:46Speaker 3: that you were a guy who the teammates responded to,
- 12:51Speaker 3: and if there was something going on, you were going
- 12:54Speaker 3: to be the first guy there helping a guy up,
- 12:56Speaker 3: pushing an opponent away. They respond to that during the game, like,
- 13:04Speaker 3: do you feel responsibility for that, a little bit of
- 13:06Speaker 3: keeping guys up, keeping guys going.
- 13:08Speaker 1: I don't, even though I feel like it's a responsibility.
- 13:10Speaker 1: That's just how I always have played, Always be the
- 13:14Speaker 1: one helping teammates. I've always be the one I'm gonna
- 13:17Speaker 1: have Any teammates I have, I'm always have their back.
- 13:19Speaker 1: I'm always right there behind them and it's just I
- 13:22Speaker 1: don't know where that Yeah, I don't know where that
- 13:25Speaker 1: comes comes from. But it's just it always has been
- 13:28Speaker 1: there for me. And it's not something that I honestly
- 13:31Speaker 1: put too much thought into or nothing that I plan
- 13:33Speaker 1: or nothing that it's just a natural It's just a
- 13:36Speaker 1: natural thing for me.
- 13:37Speaker 3: You probably wouldn't like it. Sounds like you wouldn't like
- 13:40Speaker 3: an individual sport as much like the team.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Yeah, because some days when you come into teammates is
- 13:48Speaker 1: what gets you. Like. There's days when you come in
- 13:50Speaker 1: you was just like, I'm tired, man, I don't feel
- 13:53Speaker 1: I may not feel like man, I may now be
- 13:54Speaker 1: feeling up to and you like the teammates always will
- 13:57Speaker 1: always get you through. You get in and you get
- 13:59Speaker 1: around the teamates, you get around their energy, you get
- 14:01Speaker 1: around the guys, and it just always just like lips
- 14:03Speaker 1: you up.
- 14:05Speaker 3: I think it's you and smooth behind Shatley as those
- 14:08Speaker 3: tenured guys.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Do you like that leadership? Well, I mean you probably
- 14:13Speaker 2: don't even work to do it, and you're clearly a leader.
- 14:15Speaker 3: In the locker room. I guess like it's probably even
- 14:19Speaker 3: the wrong thing. It's just something kind of came natural.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think of this, and I think that's
- 14:23Speaker 1: exactly you. You phrased it perfectly. I think it's just
- 14:26Speaker 1: something that it's just it was just like a natural
- 14:28Speaker 1: maturation for me. It's never nothing that I've always it's
- 14:31Speaker 1: never anything that I've tried to force. I always feel
- 14:34Speaker 1: like the good one one thing that I've I feel
- 14:37Speaker 1: like that I've taken from good coaches that I've had
- 14:39Speaker 1: in the pass is that their leadership always just felt natural.
- 14:43Speaker 1: It never feels like they're trying to force anything on
- 14:45Speaker 1: you or force you to do anything like they do
- 14:47Speaker 1: or force you to They kind of just lead by
- 14:49Speaker 1: example and kind of just it's just natural. Leadership has
- 14:52Speaker 1: always been important, and knowing knowing how to lead, knowing
- 14:55Speaker 1: everybody doesn't respond the same way to everything, knowing just learning,
- 14:59Speaker 1: learning people, learning your teammates. So I think that's been
- 15:03Speaker 1: That's a huge part of it for me, just being like, uh,
- 15:06Speaker 1: just being a natural leader.
- 15:07Speaker 3: On a week like this where you've tough losses obviously,
- 15:14Speaker 3: but you've been around long enough to know these kind
- 15:18Speaker 3: of losses happened.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Is that a big message to younger teammates or they
- 15:22Speaker 2: even need to hear it, Like I think you get it.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think for the for the most part,
- 15:28Speaker 1: for the most part, we get it. But I mean
- 15:30Speaker 1: that's always just I think you kind of just want
- 15:33Speaker 1: to echo that. All right, let's flush it. Let's just
- 15:35Speaker 1: flush it, put it, put it behind us. We didn't
- 15:37Speaker 1: play well, so we lost the game. We turned the
- 15:39Speaker 1: ball over. We did. Like it's mar concerning if you
- 15:41Speaker 1: play well, you do everything right, and then you still
- 15:43Speaker 1: lose the way you did. Like if you play the
- 15:45Speaker 1: way we play, Yeah, if you play the way we play,
- 15:48Speaker 1: you're going to lose the football game the way we
- 15:50Speaker 1: especially against a great team, and that's a great team.
- 15:53Speaker 1: So when you play a great team, the the margin
- 15:57Speaker 1: for area is extremely small. And we didn't play well
- 15:59Speaker 1: against a good team, and that's we lost. So that's it.
- 16:03Speaker 1: That's what it was. And not put too much start
- 16:05Speaker 1: into it. Let's think that the mindset was just kind
- 16:08Speaker 1: of let's come in, let's watch it, let's get over it,
- 16:10Speaker 1: and then let's move on.
- 16:11Speaker 3: I maybe a see this last year, but when we talked, uh,
- 16:15Speaker 3: the run hadn't quite happened. As somebody who's been here
- 16:18Speaker 3: since the beginning, you had a playoff year, your first
- 16:21Speaker 3: year then went through, as you said, some tough times.
- 16:26Speaker 2: What does it mean to you to be a part
- 16:28Speaker 2: of it?
- 16:28Speaker 1: It's special, It's special. It's extremely special. And the older,
- 16:33Speaker 1: I think, the older I get, the more appreciation I
- 16:35Speaker 1: have for it. Just kind of going through those ups.
- 16:38Speaker 1: So it's down, I've seen, You've seen some down man,
- 16:42Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen, but I've seen the highest of
- 16:44Speaker 1: highs that we've had in Jacksonville for probably in the
- 16:47Speaker 1: last ten, fifteen to twenty five ver many years. I've
- 16:50Speaker 1: been a part of those, and the lowers of lows.
- 16:52Speaker 1: I've also been a part of those. So I've been
- 16:55Speaker 1: five minutes from a Super Bowl and I've been number
- 16:57Speaker 1: one pick two years in a row, number like, so,
- 17:00Speaker 1: I've kind of I've kind of had the I've kind
- 17:04Speaker 1: of had the I've been through all the ups and downs,
- 17:07Speaker 1: and you kind of just develop our appreciation for the
- 17:11Speaker 1: ups and those downs, and because they kind of just
- 17:13Speaker 1: mowed you and turned you into the type of type
- 17:16Speaker 1: of player and the type of person that you're ultimately
- 17:18Speaker 1: going to become.
- 17:18Speaker 3: Yeah, to come out the other side, it's pretty cool.
- 17:20Speaker 3: The last thing we do, call it the ozone five.
- 17:28Speaker 3: Very quickly what's the best binge watch ever?
- 17:31Speaker 1: Oh, that's binge watch ever. It's two all right, So
- 17:39Speaker 1: on Netflix I started, I know I was a couple
- 17:41Speaker 1: of years later on it, but it was easily one
- 17:43Speaker 1: of the funniest things I've ever watched on Netflix. Just
- 17:46Speaker 1: the show Last Chance You about the junior college and
- 17:50Speaker 1: I know it did one in Mississippi, and it was
- 17:52Speaker 1: funny because I had a couple of teammates in college
- 17:54Speaker 1: that came from that. They came from that junior college.
- 17:57Speaker 1: So I binge watched that. And just one of my
- 17:58Speaker 1: favorite shows ever that I've watched during the pandemic was
- 18:01Speaker 1: the show called Snowfall and it comes on FX. I
- 18:06Speaker 1: think the last season of it was recently just I
- 18:08Speaker 1: think maybe last year BENCH watched that. So Snowfall and
- 18:12Speaker 1: Last Chance You were probably two of my favorites. Like that.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Uh the last song you heard coming in this morning.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Amen by Drake and.
- 18:26Speaker 3: I'll show you a hip Bama here. He's got a
- 18:27Speaker 3: new album dropping, Is that correct?
- 18:29Speaker 1: I think it came out maybe a week or two ago.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's about as hip as I can.
- 18:34Speaker 1: It's from that that's August from the.
- 18:36Speaker 3: Album Best Ex Bama player in the NFL. Right now,
- 18:41Speaker 3: iad phrase it the guy at Bama that just I
- 18:44Speaker 3: mean so much talent, that the guy that just stood
- 18:46Speaker 3: out from the rest, because there's usually one where you're like.
- 18:49Speaker 1: Man that guess for me deep defensively, there's two probably
- 18:57Speaker 1: Minka Fitzpatrick and rub Ruben Foster. You got the two
- 19:01Speaker 1: that just jump out, that always jumped out.
- 19:03Speaker 2: These guys were different.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And when I first well offensively, I would
- 19:07Speaker 1: probably go Derrick Henry and Mary Cooper.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of people. Yeah.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Yeah, so people forget Amaro was like OSMA finalists in college.
- 19:19Speaker 2: Yeah, he was crazy. But it's a lot of names.
- 19:23Speaker 2: I can see why. Yes, talking about national championships.
- 19:26Speaker 3: That's Can you remember every college loss?
- 19:30Speaker 1: Yeah, it was absolutely. I can name them all. I
- 19:32Speaker 1: can name every year, every team, every I know exactly.
- 19:35Speaker 1: My freshman year, we lost the regular season game the
- 19:37Speaker 1: Old Miss, the Evan. It was Evan in them that
- 19:40Speaker 1: it's a regular season game, the Old Miss, and we
- 19:42Speaker 1: lost our first running the playoff game. He lost out
- 19:44Speaker 1: of the playoffs to Urban Ohio State to coach Meyrin.
- 19:48Speaker 1: They had a squad. And my second year, my second year,
- 19:52Speaker 1: we lost the old Missigains. We lost the Evan them
- 19:54Speaker 1: again in the regular season.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Evan, let's just kill you on that.
- 19:57Speaker 1: He actually doesn't mention him, but he let me. And yeah,
- 20:02Speaker 1: so that was our only lost that year. We went
- 20:03Speaker 1: on to win the national championship. And then my last year,
- 20:06Speaker 1: my junior year, we didn't lose until the championship game.
- 20:10Speaker 2: So three three losses, yeah, three, Yeah.
- 20:15Speaker 3: It was very often your memory best NFL moment when
- 20:19Speaker 3: it stands out sick man.
- 20:21Speaker 1: Does there have to be a game or can it
- 20:23Speaker 1: just be like just after my after my my rookie year,
- 20:26Speaker 1: after we went and played at Pittsburgh the playoff game,
- 20:30Speaker 1: we came back here and like all the fans that
- 20:32Speaker 1: like gathered in the stadium after we after the plane
- 20:36Speaker 1: landed and we came back here to get in their
- 20:37Speaker 1: cars to get ready at home, and the it was
- 20:40Speaker 1: the fans in the stadium and we went in the stadium.
- 20:43Speaker 1: It just had a moment. I remember Jalen Ramsey grabbing
- 20:45Speaker 1: the mic and talk had some crazy stuff and that
- 20:50Speaker 1: was that was that was a special moment, just because
- 20:52Speaker 1: of the the gravity of the moment. We're headed to
- 20:55Speaker 1: the AF Championship. It's just that was the team, the guys,
- 21:00Speaker 1: all the guys on the team. That was just that
- 21:02Speaker 1: was That was probably one of my favorites. We played
- 21:05Speaker 1: Seattle here my rookie year and we've been here in
- 21:07Speaker 1: the night gear and that was pretty fun.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Soon that was cool. Cam. I always enjoy it.
- 21:12Speaker 3: Can't thank you enough on a busy week, a tough
- 21:15Speaker 3: week for joining us. Uh as always thanks for joining.
- 21:17Speaker 2: It was on podcast, well, I appreciate it.