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Self-Publishing and Storytelling with Jay Ingleston | Buying Local S3E42 · Buying Local Podcast

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Welcome Buying Local, everyone. I'm Mike Nelson from 5 Towers
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Media, joined today by a repeat offender over here on the Buying
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Local podcast, Jay Ingleson. Jay, what's up?
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Not much man. What's this my 4th?
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I don't know, I was thinking about.
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It it's my 4th. I should have counted.
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Yeah, 'cause the first one was at the Saratoga Today office.
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Oh, that's right. And then I've done 2 here
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already. Yeah.
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And then, yes, this is number 4 #4 welcome back #4 #4 Quattro.
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You know, we like it. We'll look forward to #5 So Jay,
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obviously you've got a new book out which we're going to talk
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about. And I'm very excited about your
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book. Or the fact that I get to talk
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to local authors because I've actually recently gone through
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the publishing process twice recently helping out clients,
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right? What a process.
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Yeah. Like you Are you doing all your
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stuff through KDP? I'm doing all my stuff through
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KDP, yeah. Which stands for Kindle Direct
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Publishing. Everyone, just in case you
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didn't know. Here, let me move your camera.
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Oh, there we go. There.
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We go, that's a little better. I need a Jamie young Jamie.
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I know, I know, How amazing must that be, right I?
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Know. I only need I also need Rogan's
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money though to have a Jamie. I guess that.
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Would be really. Nice, that would be pretty
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sweet. I think it could get rid of the
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zoom and. Great upgrade.
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Yeah, I don't know. They must have like a crazy
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setup with like a maxi board and.
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They get, I think they get a whole like another room.
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Something right, like I, I was wondering I, I never watch his
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show. I always listen to it.
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So like I have no idea what the setup looks like and because
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they, but when I'm listening to it, they'll be talking about
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like, Oh, I'm looking up. I don't know if he's got a
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laptop in front of him or if he's got a screen.
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He's got a screen to his left and then Jamie's running
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everything, I'm guessing from the control room.
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Oh, control room, Yeah. Within seconds, he's already got
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something up. Oh yeah, he's like the master.
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Googler and people are amazing. I just that just came out of my
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mouth. How did you get it?
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Yeah, How did you get it? It's so fast.
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Cute. Someday.
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Podcast goals. Yeah, they have a Jamie.
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All right, So what the hell were we talking about?
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You were helping local authors. Oh yeah.
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Oh, KDP, KDP, Kindle Direct Publishing.
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What a process that is. Yes, yes.
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And I'm pretty proficient in it. Now I bet you are.
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Did you have to recently? So they like have some
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shenanigans because we uploaded a book, published a book for a
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client. And then all of a sudden they
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came back and they're like, oh, you have to verify.
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And they like pulled the book down and like we had to go, oh,
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yeah. And it was wild because the
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clients like, what are you doing?
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And I'm like, it's not us, man. And he he had to like, go
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through their support, which by the way, is terrible.
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Oh, yeah. Because it's not like you
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actually get to talk to anybody. You actually, you e-mail you
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basically you put the ticket in and then they only respond by
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e-mail. And so then you wait.
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Yeah, that's a whole story we can get into about this book.
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Yeah, well, let's talk about it because it was so frustrating
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and it took like 3 or 4 days and finally they're like, oh, you're
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right. And meanwhile we're looking
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online and everybody was having this problem.
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Like it wasn't just him. It was a very common thing where
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they're just flagging books for no reason.
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And what? Happened with me was I didn't
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have any hiccups with the regular Kindle or the paperback.
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The hardcover was supposed to come out the week after.
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Hardcover's still not out yet. What happened was I kept
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submitting because the hardcover has to be in different
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dimensions and all. So submitting, submitting.
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No, there, it's not right. It's not right, it's right.
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I'm like, but it's right, which I had the same problem.
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Why I didn't release a lot of hardcovers for the other books
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is because the process was such a pain in the ass.
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I just said screw it. So kept saying I'm like, I know
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it's right. It's 100% by their specs, all
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that stuff. I put an e-mail in.
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What was that two weeks ago? I haven't heard back it, but
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it's that's the normal like one one day you'll look and oh,
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look, there it is. But they're, they're notorious
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for having little hiccups and then it's like they don't know
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that they're having any of these hiccups and then they try to
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like, like try to fix it, but they don't know what they're
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fixing. It's weird, very weird.
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And then to not have a phone number to call is really.
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Really frustrating, Yeah. And if you guys are actually
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watching this podcast on YouTube or Rumble, apologize.
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Apparently I forgot to hit record on my camera.
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So you're just staring at Jay's face for the first 5 minutes of
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the podcast. This is why I needed Jamie.
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So I'm going to make sure the cameras are recording that I
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did. I did hit record on the audio.
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Thank God. I tell you one of the first
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podcast, Well, for Blue Collar, actually my blue Collar shirt
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for our first Blue Collar podcast that we did kind of
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thing. It was three years ago now, we,
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I forgot to hit record on one of the mics we were using.
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We were using 2 cameras, 2 mics. Like we had no idea what we're
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doing, just fumbling through it, right.
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I think the title of it actually was first one's the worst one.
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And it was terrible. And but we get done the whole
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thing and I'm talking to Derek and all of a sudden I'm like,
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bro, we got to re record it. I totally forgot to hit record
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on my mic. And so we did.
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And the second time through was not even nearly as good as the
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first because we were trying to remember what we said in the
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first one. And and so yeah, the old rehash.
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Technical difficulties are a thing apparently in podcasts
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and. You're getting married next
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week, next weekend, next Saturday, 4:00 that's.
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Exciting, yeah. Waterfront Park in Saratoga
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Lake, Yeah. Then right afterwards over at
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Doc Brown's. That's.
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Fun. Yeah, Yeah.
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How long you guys been together? We'll be together three years in
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October 3. Years.
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Yeah. Yep.
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You know, waited till I was almost 50.
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Yeah, well, up in the water I. Mean listen, man, you know,
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happens sooner or later hopefully, right.
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That's congratulations. That's amazing.
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Appreciate it. I'm a fan of marriage yeah.
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And. All the look forward to it.
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Yeah, it's fun. It's nice to know that you like
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you're coupled up, you know, officially, permanently.
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It's like a whole. Partner thing yeah like 1 driven
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place together and you gotta worry about like.
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Yeah. You're working on stuff together
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as a team. Yeah, it's pretty sweet.
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Yeah. We're we like the old where
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we're going to be going in the future type stuff.
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Yeah, hopefully moving out of the area in a couple of oh.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, not in New York, into the
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Carolinas. Yeah, nice, which I can't wait.
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NS looking at South, but I think we're going to take some time
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next year because we're we're going to do our honeymoon this
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year, but we're going to wait till next year and then I think
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we're going to do a little bit of searching nice sage graduates
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her sage graduates and her son graduate in two years oh wow so
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we'll figure things out in the next two years I.
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Got to tell you, I've been to both North and South Carolina
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and I want to say extensively, but multiple times over the
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years. And most recently we went to
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three years ago, went to North or South Carolina.
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The year before that, we went to North Carolina, spent a week or
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10 days in there in each one of them, and we went to Charleston,
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SC the second trip, the last trip, yeah, I loved it, man.
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That's. My a couple of people on the mic
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and I think that's where my cousin went.
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Yeah, my actually my cousin lives down there.
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The. Hospitality's just it was.
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Amazing. We stayed.
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We got a house on Folly Beach and it was cool, man.
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It was really cool. Everybody's driving around golf
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carts. Yeah, that's the best.
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Yeah, you. Need a golf cart?
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Well. Two years ago, two years ago, we
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went to, we did like the Virginia trip, drove to
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Virginia, went to like the Jamestown settlement and all
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that stuff. Yeah, yeah.
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Went to Virginia Beach and then we drove to to Atlantic City and
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then we came home. But just the the Southern
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hospitality aspect of things that you don't realize because
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we're from it's. It's a different way of life,
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man. We.
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Got the New Yorkers, of course, living so close to Lake George,
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I get a lot of the the Canadian overflow during the summer,
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yeah. Yeah, where?
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Where are you? Are you?
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I know you're from Whitehall, but I'm from.
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Whitehall I live in, Queensbury live in.
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Queensbury. OK, I don't know why I was.
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I meant to ask you that. I don't know why I was going to
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ask you that, though. There was a reason.
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And let me just apologize about the flies, too, man.
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We. You could see all the apples on
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the island. We are apple chewing.
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Yeah, I. See that on your video?
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The other. Yeah, we've had a really good
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year for apples. And so we've been making
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applesauce and jarring it or canning it really with pressure
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canner and but, but now we've got all these flies in the
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house, it's like, I don't even know what to do.
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And we get one of those ugly sticky strips, right?
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I don't. Know yeah they have the new
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things that you can buy that look like a almost a cup and
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they ZAP them and. Oh yeah, yeah.
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Walmart's got some. I don't know.
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We've got some homemade remedy thing we do with like dish soap
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and that's. What Apple?
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Cider vinegar, that's what. I do with the the fruit.
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Flies. Yeah.
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I think it works for regular flies too, yeah.
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I cut a water bottle in half and then turn the spout upside down
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inside of it and then they fly in they.
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Fly in, get stuck. Yeah, sorry, flies.
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Sorry. Sorry for people or fun.
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The People for Ethical Treatment applies that's.
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Right. That's right.
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I'm sure they're out there. So let's talk about the book.
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So you mentioned your daughter and from the sounds of things
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like the book's kind of about your daughter, maybe about your
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grandchild a little bit too. Yeah, there's there's basically
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most of the 100, you know, instances of only so many times
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has been through her. Sometimes it's just like all of
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us in a hole that are girl dads and stuff that we go even boy
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dad. You know what I mean?
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Like these little moments that are we think we're going to have
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so many and we only have, you know, like the biggest one in
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like when I first started writing and I never told anybody
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I was writing this book. I had like almost complete two
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months behind nobody knowing like hiding well.
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Well, here comes somebody. Close it up.
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Shut the thing. What are you doing?
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Nothing. It's just going back and like
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thinking of like only so many like dance recitals only so many
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even like there's little muddy shoes in the hallway or you
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know, winter days where they don't have school and you just
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sit and watch TV and eat popcorn or eat ice cream for breakfast,
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that type of that type of stuff. So as I like it started
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snowballing. I just started like, well, what
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if I added this to it? And then I think of other people
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I know, like when I was growing up, like my mother, like
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different stories and all, my grandmother was basically the
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the raiser of my mom and, and her siblings.
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But when, when my grandfather was there, it was like that was
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the important time that they got with him because he worked on
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the tugboat. So, you know, he's gone two
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weeks at a time. So when time was important, you
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know, they, they, they, they had that time.
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So what? Tugboats.
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Tugboats on the canal. On the canal.
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Oh, no kidding, 50. Something years bringing.
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Stuff up and down the canal ways and.
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And they they actually went on strike.
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I think it was like 92. And that's when he retired.
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But he had grown up on him. He's working on him from 14
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years old on Wow He. Ended up he.
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Died at 92 years old, eight years ago now.
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But the stories, I bet the stories, it's actually I can
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segue into that. I have another fiction book
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coming out at the end of probably I'm going to release it
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on Halloween. But in between there, I came up
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with this. My grandfather's name was Paul,
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but he didn't want to be called Gramp.
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So when we would go out to restaurants, it would be hey,
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call me, call me Uncle Paul, call me.
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Paul, so my. Majority of my life was Uncle
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Paul just or called him Paulie until he passed away.
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So I, I came up with this concept of he's a sea Otter and
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he's telling all these stories and I was, I'm illustrating them
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as, as it goes. Not now.
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I haven't announced that yet, but.
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Well, you did know you're here first.
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That'll be that'll be out before the end of the year.
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But getting like all the ones I can remember.
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But then I want to like interview like like my cousins,
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the ones I might not remember or like my mother can tell me or my
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uncle that type of stuff. But yeah, there.
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I'll, I'll tell you one story and then we'll go back to this
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book. Yeah, yeah.
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My grandfather didn't like sitting still and he was, I
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believe he's like 8889 and he couldn't drive.
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He hadn't screwed up his back. So he had one of them hover
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rounds. Now they live out in the
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outskirts of Whitehall like. Dresden, OR.
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No, like out in the country toward like between Fair Haven
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and actually between Hampton and Whitehall Stalker Road.
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And it's pretty ways. And there's this hill called
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Burnt Hill and it's a good grade up.
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And my uncle was basically taking care of him and he snuck
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out. He takes the hover round down
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Burnt Hill, which is in a feat in itself of how he didn't get
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killed, gets a phone call. Hey, your father is in town.
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He's at his sister Sally's now. She lived to be, I think 80
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something years old too, and visited her, didn't tell
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anybody. Well, my uncle didn't know he
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left. So we're all getting phone calls
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around. Yeah.
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Your grandfather drove his hover around down Burnt Hill.
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I'm like how he didn't die because like going they call it
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around the mountain and people speed around there and it just.
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But that's the way it was. He didn't want to sit still and
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drove until I think he was 8889 and still partied with his
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buddies. He used to go up to Walmart and
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tie and buy stupid shit just to back.
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Just to have something to do 1. More story.
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Yeah, he he did. You take the hover round over to
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Walmart and tuck this. Is when he could drive him and
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his buddy Henry Gurney both. They're both passed away now,
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but Henry is this big tall dude. My grandfather is this little
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short guy, so I can imagine them walking through Walmart up there
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in their late 80s. He buys the magic bullet, comes
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home, I'm there. I don't know why I can't
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remember. I was there, used to magic.
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Bullet The. Magic bullet blender thing.
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Oh yeah. So I'm sitting, he's got this
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little table like in the dining room, and there's the kitchen.
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Well, he's like, hey, Jay called me.
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Big Jay. Hey, Big Jay.
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Look, I got a magic Well, Yeah. And he's blending something.
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Blending something. And I don't know if he blended
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milk with a slices of ham or water with slices of ham, but he
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made himself a ham smoothie and drank it that.
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Sounds delicious. So I was just like, yeah, OK,
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just he just bought stuff to they.
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Made him different back that man.
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Just just to entertain himself. Oh man, you made a ham smoothie
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that sounds. So gross.
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Yeah, a ham. Smoothie.
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That was my grandfather in nutshell.
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But there's many when that book comes out, it's going to be it's
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pretty funny. Some of the some of the stupid
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shit that he's done, some of the amazing things he's done.
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Why'd? You pick an Otter because.
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The boat, he had a yacht when I was younger, actually, they had
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it up, probably it was his brother Jeans, which he's still
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alive when he's 94 and he still golfs in Florida and all that
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stuff. He had a yacht called the Sea
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Otter. And then we put two and two
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together and then my grandfather had a, an old charter and Lake
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Champlain called the Wally 1. So there's there's some stories
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with that boat in itself that you wouldn't believe, but
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they're 100% accurate and true and crazy.
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But yeah, like for all men and as a sea outer just to so it
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wasn't like too vanilla. I just wanted to splice it up a
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little bit. And he's wearing his veterans.
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He was a war. He was a World War 2 veteran.
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So he had his veterans hat on and most of these adventures.
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Yeah, it's it's pretty interesting.
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What? A a wild thing to grow up on a
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tugboat on the canals and then work your whole entire life on
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them. He was an engineer.
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Like, maybe I have this romanticized vision of what that
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would entail in my mind. But it sounds so cool.
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Like, what a way of life it must have been.
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I'm sure it wasn't easy. And, you know, there's and it's
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not all puppies and kittens, like, anything.
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But just the idea of it, though, it just sounds really cool to
16:32
me. Yeah.
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I remember going on, we would like jump in and Whitehall, we
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jump in and like come stock then ride, ride it up.
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But I think when I was younger, I went a little bit farther.
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But being so loud in them, I don't like how do you sleep and
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then have the you got your little galley and kitchen?
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Yeah, but he was an engineer and he worked on and fixed them for
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50 plus years. Wow.
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That these do so much shipping up and down there and they don't
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do any shipping up and down anymore Now it's just
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recreational craft he. Worked for the Kehoe brothers or
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forgot his his first name anyway.
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Martin Kehoe, Martin. He worked for Martin Kehoe
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Company and then he I think he went a little while with
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somebody else. I'm not positive, but yeah, it
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was he had there's a whole book I can just do with adventures.
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And then there's the whole his back story and the.
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History is. Amazing.
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Ran away, ended up I think with a relative for a while.
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Ended up on the canal and I remember him telling me a story
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that he hadn't seen his father in a long time and they had
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intersected on Lake Champlain, wave to each other, and that was
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the last time you seen him. Oh.
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Wow. Yeah, it's it's.
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It's pretty interesting, yeah. It sounds interesting.
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Isn't it wild to think about like I, I experienced this with
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my uncles currently where they're talking about stories
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from their childhood or about my grandfather, you know, their
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father or my great grandfather and telling all these old story
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and they're just like all I'm like, wow, that could be like a
18:01
movie man. And but I'm wondering like, is
18:04
it just because I think it is cool or would it really be an
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like it seems like it'd be a really.
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And I just feel that so many everyone kind of has that right?
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Like you start going back 2 generations and just what a
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different way of life and how interesting and fascinating and
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hard, right? Yeah.
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He's in two books I believe. I think one of them is called
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Low Bridges and High Tide or something like that.
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And then there's another one. But yeah, he was a big reader.
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Like his room was filled with books and he was doing
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supplementation like amino acids in the lake.
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Before it was early 90s. He would buy the when they had
18:44
Vitamin World and they had the Body Fortress ones, he would buy
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them in bulk. Hey, Big J, try these.
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Try these. Good for you.
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Maybe that's why I lived the 92, yeah.
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Yeah, and most of the except from one brother, they lived to
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be. Really.
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Really like in their late 80s. And then of course Jean is the
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one only left. There were seven kids, one girl
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and then the rest were brothers and they all fought in World War
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2 except 1 Marshall or World War 2.
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Marshall was the youngest he he came after, but Jean was the
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second oldest, third old. He's still alive.
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He lives in Florida. He has his pilot license 7.
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Kids, seven kids, you don't hear that much anymore either.
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And. They all they all live together.
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They they had lived in hand me down clothes all went to A1 room
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schoolhouse and yeah he had he ran away and that I think before
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14 actually, but it's. Wild man.
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Yep, the, the seven, the, IT was so common for people to have and
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I know everybody, I know birth control and all the other things
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that we have now, but like, it's just so wild to think about, you
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know? And like you, you read, I mean,
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I read stuff all the time about the population that's collapsing
19:53
and countries around the world and we're on the wrong and all
19:56
that stuff. And it's like just a generation
19:59
ago, all it took was a generation, maybe 2 and for
20:03
people to stop having kids like they used to.
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I'd have 100 kids if I could afford it.
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I had the time. You know it's wild, man.
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Yeah, you can't. We can't go out to eat tonight.
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Why? Because I can't afford.
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Because. There's seven of you, $900.
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Bill, you guys are going to share Mac and cheese?
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I'll tell you, I mean, we don't ever go out to eat and not
20:24
because there isn't great restaurants, because there's a
20:26
ton of them, but we just never do it.
20:29
And but when we do, the rare occasion we do, it is freaking
20:33
expensive, man. Yep, like.
20:35
Just for two of us to go out to eat.
20:37
I mean, it's 100 bucks easy, yeah.
20:38
We went to Florida this past year, not this year, but last
20:42
year. I think I spent like a little
20:46
over 2 grand just in food. Yeah, though, yeah, it was.
20:49
It's crazy. I don't know how anybody affords
20:52
it. No, especially this day and age
20:54
things. Just keep getting more expensive
20:56
it seems. Yeah, I don't know.
20:58
I keep reading other stuff as the economy is booming so I
21:00
don't know. That I paid $3 for gas today.
21:03
I mean, apparently that's the cheapest it's been in years.
21:07
I'm still, I'm still unhappy about the $3.
21:10
I know that it's cheaper than it was, but I'm like, where's that
21:13
$2.00 stuff? So when we were kids, 90.
21:16
Six cents. Oh, I remember that too.
21:17
Got my. License.
21:18
That's because we're old back in the early 90s.
21:23
Not the mid 90s, not the mid 90s.
21:25
Started approaching the dollar and change.
21:28
I would take that man. $3 and I could drive around town for
21:32
three hours afterwards. Yeah.
21:34
And then park the car for a week.
21:35
Yep. We had a big V8 engine too, so
21:38
it didn't. It didn't last very long.
21:40
So I know we want to get back to the book, but I, I wanted to ask
21:43
you, I was thinking about this earlier and, and we probably
21:47
talked about it on one of the other podcasts, but how did you
21:49
get into writing? This is your third book, right?
21:52
4th. 5th book. It's my fifth one.
21:54
Oh. Jeez, I guess I didn't find.
21:56
Books and I have two journals. OK.
21:59
So how what? What started it all?
22:01
Started writing in the early 90s.
22:03
Just love. Letters and love poems and just
22:07
exponentially I still have I was just talking about this the
22:10
other day. I still have my notebooks from
22:13
like economics class or English class with me jotting down back
22:18
then it was because I was listening.
22:20
I was heavy into Megadeth. So I would like listen to their
22:23
lyrics and then I'm like, God could write this on but
22:26
different and I would do that. But and then it started to
22:29
evolve into like totally wash all my feelings on that stuff.
22:34
Like I didn't realize like back back then when I my parents
22:37
split up when I was 14, I lost one of my close cousins in 1990.
22:41
I was just turned 13. And back then you don't really
22:46
know how you you cope with grief or you cope with anything.
22:50
I didn't at least until now, looking back and going, well, I
22:54
wrote that I must have, I needed to get that stuff out.
22:57
And the direct correlation of, yeah, I really did like when my
23:01
parents put up, I knew it was coming before it happened.
23:03
So I'd like kind of brace myself.
23:06
But I would always tell anybody, yeah, it was no big deal, blah,
23:08
blah, blah. But then I read some of the
23:09
stuff and go, well, maybe it was, but subconsciously I was
23:13
letting it out. But consciously I really didn't
23:15
know what else. So.
23:15
It's just kind of like a catharsis.
23:17
Yeah, very. Yeah, very.
23:18
And just just in the last couple months, realizing that type of
23:24
stuff, of course, when you get older and you look back and you
23:26
go, whoa, yeah, yeah, then yeah, I kind of covered that up with
23:33
that and fixed that with this. And it's a it's a cool thing to
23:38
look back and then understand where your mindset was.
23:42
Because again, when you're a kid, you don't really. 131415
23:46
years old. I don't, I'm, I'm cool.
23:49
I don't. I don't.
23:50
Yeah, My parents split up big. Yeah.
23:52
But then you read stuff from like, it was 11th grade, so I
23:55
was at 1617 like. Do you realize that maybe it was
23:58
hitting you harder than you realize at the time?
24:01
And I didn't because like now we understand emotions and how to
24:04
control them and or you know, how to deal with them and what
24:07
they are. But back then we really think we
24:10
do, but we really don't. Like, why was I so angry?
24:13
Like, why did why were my friends so nervous to be around
24:16
me when I would drink in my early 20s because they were
24:18
worried I was going to kill somebody or something like that.
24:21
And then you go, oh, that's because I love it.
24:23
That was some a little bit anger issues.
24:25
And yeah, now I understand. Like that's the, that's the
24:31
stuff I like looking back on and then seeing where it's evolved
24:34
and like. See, that sounds like the stuff
24:37
that I'm laying in bed and I'm trying to fall asleep and I'm
24:39
thinking about all these bad decisions I made in my 20s and I
24:41
was like, oh, my God. I'm just shaking my head in
24:43
embarrassment on myself. Yeah.
24:45
Oh, there's some. Of those moments, too.
24:47
How? Many moments were like, like I,
24:51
I remember my friends, I'll dive into this quick.
24:55
Everybody would like do mushrooms and stuff like that
24:58
and they would never let me touch any of that.
25:00
And I've never had. And now I know why because they
25:04
were afraid that I was going to have some crazy trip and go
25:08
ballistic, go out of control. Yeah.
25:10
And out of control. And.
25:11
And now looking back and reading some of my stuff and like, no
25:15
one were. I was in certain spots and then
25:20
thinking that I had it all, like I'm good, but I wasn't good.
25:24
Yeah. And I think we evolved to the
25:28
point where, like you said, you lay in bed and go shit.
25:32
Wow. I wonder how it made people feel
25:34
bad. And like I said.
25:36
This or I did that and where would I have gone and like I
25:40
mean we've touched on this before and me going up to
25:41
flubber Busters and getting fights just.
25:44
Yeah, I don't know we had that conversation online or offline,
25:46
but I I was thinking I was like, yeah, you've told me some some
25:49
stories. I'm like back and go wow.
25:52
Flubber Busters I'd. Definitely be in jail by now,
25:54
but it'd be cool if they had camera phones back then because
25:56
it's true. Could you imagine a thinking
26:00
about like those adventures that you had at Flubber Busters back
26:03
in the day? Imagine doing that stuff not
26:04
like you would. Most.
26:06
Certainly be in prison. You know 100% you.
26:10
Like you can't do that stuff anymore.
26:11
It's just wild how the world has changed in so many ways.
26:15
You can't just walk into a bar now and not look for a flight
26:19
but wait for one. That's what I would do.
26:20
And like almost every weekend, like on a, like on a good night.
26:25
It was, yeah, it was some interesting shit, that's for
26:27
sure. But.
26:27
Yeah, I was actually just thinking yesterday about back in
26:31
the day, back in my 20s. And like, you know, we would
26:34
either go to Denny's over on Quaker Rd. after the bars would
26:38
close or we would go to Steve's place and wild that fights would
26:43
happen at both of those places at 3:00 in the morning, right
26:46
We. Would try.
26:46
We would go over to Denny's in Rutland, oh, afterwards and then
26:50
and then poor people. I, I know there was no fights,
26:53
but I can imagine that story. It was.
26:55
A show for sure. Shorter like.
26:57
People passed out on the next to you in the booth or, you know,
27:02
throwing food at each other. I can't imagine them poor
27:05
waitresses and I'm sure they weren't tipped.
27:09
Apologize all of you right now. Sorry.
27:11
Sorry, Clara. Still remember your name?
27:16
I'm so. Sorry, I'm so sorry.
27:18
It's so funny. So so you just kind of started
27:24
writing like not on purpose, like I'm going to write a book,
27:26
but it just kind of was something that helped you at the
27:28
time getting those things out. And then So what was the
27:33
catalyst? Do you write in your first book
27:34
and actually putting it out there the.
27:35
Catalyst was I had so much material from like I still have
27:40
stuff I printed off from 98992000 and I started looking
27:44
through stuff. I started writing more stuff for
27:46
the the first book, but I'd always wanted like I have
27:50
publishers market the thick book you would buy at Barnes and
27:53
Noble. I still have a couple of those
27:55
because I was like, yeah, I'm going to get published.
27:57
This is like 2002, 2003. I just never never really did
28:01
anything with it. And then it was late 2020, the
28:06
whole COVID shit. And I just started going through
28:11
it and adding to it. And I'm like, I think I'm going
28:15
to publish. And then I got online and
28:17
started reading about KDP and how to do this because I had
28:21
sent like some stuff into like publishing companies before
28:24
that, but you never hear anything back ever.
28:26
And I looked into literary agents and they were too
28:28
expensive, blah, blah, blah, blah.
28:32
So I'm like KDP sounds like the best route to do this without
28:35
any overhead, any not to pay some guy, you know, like we
28:41
talked about it before looking into, you know, getting
28:43
published and like got to have 5000 up front or like that type
28:46
of stuff. So I just did that and slowly
28:51
learned how to do it myself and create the cover and, you know,
28:55
put this here and put that there and then, you know, send it in.
28:59
If it kicks back, then I'll change this.
29:01
And now it's it's like second nature.
29:03
I can blow through it and get done whatever, but.
29:07
It's I mean, we're you know, we're complaining about the
29:09
shenanigans with KDP, but it is surprisingly simple compared to
29:13
what the publishing process was even 10 or 15 years ago, let
29:18
alone 20 years ago. And the fact that anyone to your
29:22
point, right can anyone can publish a book and you just you
29:26
know, like you don't have any cost like well, aside from your
29:29
IBSNIISBNIBSNI always mix up those IS.
29:34
BNI. SBN Yeah, which I still haven't
29:36
figured out the point to the ISBN because I think that's.
29:39
Where you can, they can just track it just.
29:40
Get. Just know just.
29:42
More more tracking, but it is it's so simple and anyone can
29:47
you know it. It removes that barrier that
29:50
used to be in place for getting something published.
29:52
And I like how I can like I, I, I sell the majority of the books
29:57
either through the Kindle thing or when I buy them myself.
30:02
And then I sell them to like friends or whatever and stuff.
30:07
This one and the first one, second one, like I say, is
30:10
always that was my favorite. This one I can't read.
30:15
Full disclosure, I cannot read this book without crying.
30:18
I couldn't write this book without crying.
30:22
And Jen has picked on me a couple times.
30:24
She actually, hey, Jen, you filmed me trying to read the
30:29
book and I couldn't get through it.
30:30
Yeah, I just get because it's so no audible version.
30:34
Yet then no, it's. Funny because I'm actually, I'm
30:38
working on the whole audible thing, but I'm going to have to
30:41
have somebody else do it because I don't think I can keep the
30:44
quietness around to be able to record it.
30:46
Yeah, especially I have neighbors and all that stuff.
30:48
So are. Motorcycles going by like we had
30:50
a little bit, yeah. And I have, you know,
30:52
Skimmerhorners show up and mow the lawn and it's God awful
30:57
loud. Yeah, yeah.
30:58
And yeah. So I looked into AI that'll I
31:03
think it's like 100 bucks. You can pay them and they'll do
31:06
it for you and have it done like finance.
31:08
I'm like, how's that even possible?
31:11
But I. Don't know, All that stuff's
31:12
pretty wild, yeah. Yeah, I, I Full disclosure, I
31:17
used AI to edit this book. Yeah.
31:19
Absolutely. Why wouldn't you?
31:20
Because. I'm the horrible speller as an
31:22
author, horrible. Fix my spelling mistakes.
31:26
Horrible at, you know, grammar. Yeah.
31:32
Grammar. Is hard anyway.
31:33
Punctuation even worse. That's why my first book has no
31:37
punctuation to read it. But I did it that way because I
31:41
wanted it to be different. And I had talked to like a
31:44
couple other people that had written books and I'm like, what
31:46
do you think if I don't like put quotations?
31:48
Is that like he's like, no, that's your book, Do whatever
31:51
you want. Yeah, you read it sideways if
31:53
you want. It makes sense to you.
31:55
It's eventually going to reach at least somebody that's going
31:57
to be like, oh, that was pretty cool.
31:58
But if you read the first book, there's really no the.
32:01
Grammar police out there. Yeah, I tell you, every single
32:05
blog, every article, every single thing I've ever written,
32:08
I always have people picking apart my because I, I just, I
32:11
write the way that I think, right?
32:13
So it, it just comes out in paper, like exactly how it is in
32:17
my head. I throw way too many commas in
32:19
there. I throw a semi colon somewhere
32:21
where it doesn't need to be. I love parentheses.
32:23
Yep, same here, you know. Like if it's like a side thaw or
32:27
something, that's like a interior thought to the sentence
32:29
I just wrote. Like I was just going to put
32:30
that in parentheses man Why? I hadn't.
32:32
I had to like relax on the exclamation when I would message
32:35
people or text them. Like why?
32:37
Why do I need it? Why do you need the the Well,
32:41
I'm having a bearing fart, an exclamation on the end of that
32:43
sentence. I'm like, I don't know you want.
32:46
To keep it up being I do the same thing.
32:47
Are you yelling at whatever? What?
32:50
We didn't need parentheses to say you're going to the store
32:53
and be right back. Well, 'cause.
32:54
I mean, here's the deal with text messaging.
32:56
If you just end it with a period, it's kind of flat and it
33:00
could be taken in a negative connotation, right?
33:02
And or negative tone. So I throw exclamations on
33:06
there. And if I really mean it, then
33:08
there's two. Same here.
33:12
I don't make the rules guys. That's just how it is, man.
33:15
Whatever. But yeah, no AI on the proofing.
33:18
I mean, why wouldn't you? The only thing I don't like
33:20
about AI proofing, as I've noticed, like with articles and
33:24
things, 'cause we use AI to prove our our articles and it'll
33:27
sometimes delete things that I want in the article and we'll
33:31
change it in some fashions and I'm reading them like, where the
33:33
hell did that thing go? Why'd you do that?
33:35
Yeah, why? And then I'm like, so now I have
33:36
to prompt, do not delete anything.
33:39
Keep all content proof for grammar, spelling, punctuation.
33:43
Yeah, pretty much. And then I put, well, you know,
33:46
I didn't even know. And then I didn't know it was
33:49
doing it and I put in like a 800 word article and I was like
33:52
proof this. And then it shoots out a 400
33:54
word article at me. And I'm like, I know that I'm a
33:56
little wordy sometimes, but a 50% reduction I did not.
34:00
Need that. Some heavy editing there.
34:03
All right, here, let me see the book so I can hold it up to the
34:06
camera so so you guys can see it because I love the cover.
34:11
That's actually me, and that's Sage when she was probably a
34:14
good seven years old. And that bear that she's holding
34:18
in her hand, she got when she was first born.
34:21
She still has that bear today. I hadn't made it a little bit
34:24
bigger because it's a little bit smaller in real life, yeah.
34:26
So that's a real picture that you then used.
34:28
Did you use AI to help generate the image?
34:30
The AI's everywhere. That's that's a picture.
34:33
I actually, I went through seven different incarnations of the
34:37
yes, I think it's a great cover. I have this actual picture of us
34:41
walking towards the camera too, but the original cover was I had
34:45
like she was I piggyback riding and she we're both looking at it
34:49
and I just, I wanted something to like we're walking this
34:52
together. Yeah, I think.
34:54
This is great too, though, because I mean, to me it's kind
34:56
of indicative of like you're talking about the past, right?
34:59
So what's behind you guys as, as the, you know, the picture of
35:03
you and your daughter are walking away from it?
35:05
I think it's, I think it's really telling.
35:07
I think it's great. And with the clock, I ripped the
35:11
clock off the Back to the Future.
35:14
That was my Oh, nice, that's my little Easter egg from Back to
35:16
the Future in there. Very.
35:17
Nice. Yeah, and then it's got the the
35:21
thick ham Hock in my neck. It happens as we get older.
35:27
So the name of the book only so many times the dad clock, right?
35:32
So tell us about the book. Without crying.
35:36
No, no. It's it's these these moments
35:39
that we think are unlimited. I mean, you can attest to it
35:44
where you just think that, you know, even going to the movies,
35:49
how many times you really go to the movies or sit and watch or
35:54
you know, they sit on your lap and there's like they grow out
35:59
of that. So or you know, even getting
36:03
them ready for school doing like doing her hair like I miss all
36:06
like that little the little intimate things that might not
36:12
mean much then. But like looking back, it's
36:15
like, wow, that was really big and trying to realize that some
36:19
people miss them and I couldn't imagine ever like my my favorite
36:26
one in there. I forgot.
36:30
I need my cheaters. I.
36:32
Think tomorrow mine these are only 1.75.
36:39
Like only so many trips to the playground, Only so many
36:42
birthday candles, only so many art projects.
36:47
You know, there's only so many snow days.
36:49
I'm trying to find where they look for you in the crowd.
36:55
Dance recitals. Yeah.
36:58
Only so many questions. You'll be there the first to
37:01
hear. They run to you.
37:03
Not Google, not a friend. You.
37:05
Because they think you know everything and maybe you don't,
37:08
but what matters is they still think you do.
37:11
I don't know what that one is. This is it's, it's funny because
37:18
I went through like I sent you the first like incarnation via
37:22
e-mail, But I, I think I changed a couple things like I deleted
37:25
some stuff and I added, but this one is like no truer today than
37:29
it was when I when she was younger.
37:31
It's only so many times they laugh at your dad jokes.
37:35
You're not funny, but to them you are for now.
37:39
One day the jokes get eye rolls, so tell them why they're still
37:43
laughing. And this book is dedicated to my
37:47
daughter by the way, too. And then I, you know, I finish
37:50
it with only so many times. That's the truth.
37:54
Only so many mornings, only so many rides, only so many tiny
37:58
shoes off, giggles and sleepy I love yous.
38:01
One day you won't know it's the last time.
38:06
So treat every time like it might be.
38:08
Because it might be. And we got through it without
38:11
crying you. Did I know?
38:12
I was just thinking we're going to have to show this to your
38:14
almost wife so she can see you did it.
38:17
See. Yeah, I did it.
38:18
I did it. Well, I had the manuscript I, I
38:21
printed out or she ended up printing out the manuscript that
38:24
worked for me one day and we're in bed and only got, I could
38:27
only get the 40 and I just got and she's like, are you going to
38:31
be alright? I'm like, yeah, it's just like,
38:33
that's my heart on the page there.
38:35
And then when I did get the 1st proof copy, I'm literally on the
38:41
couch reading and she's filming me.
38:44
Come on, you can do it. Can't do it.
38:48
What do you or how do you deal with the vulnerability of
38:53
putting work like this out there?
38:55
You. Know I I the first one was the
38:57
worst yeah, 100% one of the worst.
39:01
Like the basically I contributed to running out in the middle of
39:10
a football field naked and everybody sees you and how much
39:16
more vulnerable could you be? I mean, looking around and
39:19
there's couple 1000 people laughing, pointing or whatever,
39:22
crying maybe like I went through so many emotions that the night
39:27
before like I was I think I was a prick to pretty much everybody
39:31
and I didn't understand how I was going to react if it didn't
39:35
go well and then it went so well and then I'm like again, that
39:39
whole imposter syndrome comes in.
39:41
But with this one, I think the more I do them, the more I like.
39:46
I don't really give a shit anymore, you know?
39:48
There's no vulnerability. This is me.
39:50
If you don't like it, you don't have to read it.
39:52
Do you think that's an age thing or?
39:54
I think 100% just. Because you're older and wiser
39:57
and calmer. Yeah, Yeah.
39:58
Our testosterone levels aren't what they used to be.
40:00
It's. It's in the three hundreds, the
40:02
three. Hundreds man, you got to get
40:04
some TRT. Around there, yeah, go back on
40:06
it I. I mean, that's just a huge thing
40:10
for All authors, but I interesting that you say it's
40:14
because you're older, not necessarily because of getting
40:16
reps in of having five of them out there.
40:19
In life in general, I've totally, there's some things
40:22
that even two years ago that I probably would have lost my mind
40:26
and flipped out over. And now I'm just like, I don't
40:29
care. I don't care enough.
40:33
Like I'm trying to think of a good, I don't care enough to
40:39
worry about what other people think anymore.
40:43
Before it was like, again, the first couple books were like
40:46
very scary and I wondered what people were going to think.
40:49
And then it's like, why am I concentrating on the people that
40:52
are this small fraction that are in a fucking book?
40:56
Who cares what are you doing? Like I'm doing what I like.
41:01
I'll go back. I'm putting it.
41:02
Out there, man, I'm. Putting it out there, it's the
41:03
man. In the arena, right?
41:04
And I'm, I'm realizing and I did a TikTok.
41:08
You're on TikTok? Yes.
41:10
I have 59,000 followers. Do you really?
41:14
Yeah. Holy shit, Jay.
41:16
Ingleston. I think it's Jay Ingleston.
41:17
Yeah, I I put up the book. I do inspirational stuff and
41:22
like some funny stuff. That's like a that's like
41:25
influencer. I'm an influencer.
41:27
Yeah, I get, I get a lot of free cool shit sent to me.
41:30
Like out of the blue the other day.
41:33
I open this package and it's from this company that makes
41:36
like the the folate stuff. They sent me one of them and
41:39
then there's this big jug. I forgot the name of the
41:43
company. Sorry.
41:45
They said you're. Missing an opportunity here.
41:48
Whoever your name is, the. Shirt is a true classic.
41:50
Shirt True Classic has hooked me up with free stuff a couple
41:53
Times Now, so I did a commercial we'll have.
41:55
To make sure, we mention True Classic in the.
41:59
Was free I did a commercial for them but this company I think
42:02
it's true Vienna something like that sends me this huge jug and
42:06
I'm like what the hell is that it was probiotics where it could
42:09
just mix it with stuff and then I get like I get these collabs
42:13
all the time and you can tell I. Love that we keep looking at the
42:17
cameras and keep. Speaking to the that just they
42:20
just sent out to the like the bigger influencers and they
42:23
don't look at the the content because I get a lot of women's
42:26
hair care products and cosmetics.
42:30
There's probably an AI chat bot that is just coming up.
42:32
Got to be because. Yesterday it was eyeliner.
42:35
I'm like, I'm not doing the eyeliner thing, but I get a lot
42:38
of I. Mean you got those blue eyes
42:39
that are really making pop, Jay women.
42:41
'S sportswear I get that felt like sports bra I'm like Jesus
42:45
it's. A new world?
42:46
So it's funny because when I initially got on TikTok, I had
42:49
no inclinations and I did this one and it went viral and it's
42:52
got almost 1,000,000 views now. Like my total like footprint on
42:56
TikTok, I've got well over 2 million like views on all all
43:00
and stuff. And the way the the algorithm
43:03
works right now is like I'll look at it and like one will get
43:07
5000 views then one will get like 400 and and that type of
43:11
stuff. But I've been maintaining up At
43:14
one point I was like 63,000. But a lot of them were chat much
43:18
big bots that they like fake accounts.
43:21
I got like a thing in the like in my messages saying they're
43:24
going to kill a lot of these bots and I've done this shit
43:27
down to like 60 and now I'm hovering around 59,506 hundred
43:31
whatever. That's pretty cool.
43:32
Yeah, I, I'm. Actually just did my
43:35
verification for the blue check 2 days ago.
43:38
I'm waiting for the reply on on on TikTok.
43:41
Oh. They have a blue check on TikTok
43:42
too. We have a farm account on TikTok
43:46
for chapter house farm farming. I don't know if I have any
43:49
followers. I think I've put one reel up.
43:52
I've looked at it once, I'm just not a tik toker.
43:55
Will you follow me? Do some shout outs to your
43:58
audience so I can get get some people I'll help.
44:00
You. Yeah, I've, I've helped quite a
44:01
few people on there. I'm gonna.
44:02
I'm gonna start posting more pig contacts.
44:05
We just got some some piglets. Well, I.
44:07
Tried to get saves to come with me so they go no more.
44:09
I'm like, you've got animals. Yeah, we got well.
44:12
Right now all we have is pigs and chickens and a couple of
44:15
ducks out there. She.
44:15
Had chickens, but something killed them a couple years ago,
44:18
yeah. Mine are actually shut up in the
44:20
coop right now because we've been losing a chicken a week to
44:22
the foxes and I got tired of that last.
44:24
Time I was here you had turkeys, we.
44:26
Did. Yeah.
44:27
Well, you know, we won't talk about those.
44:33
Turkeys were funny, though. They would follow me around the
44:35
farm like dogs everywhere. My wife's got videos of me just
44:39
walking around. Six turkeys following me around.
44:42
They were funny. Or like one day I open up the
44:44
front door and we don't even use the front door.
44:47
Open up the front door. All six of them are sitting
44:48
there looking. I'm like, what are you guys
44:51
doing? They're pooping all over the
44:52
steps. They were.
44:53
Bright white ones, weren't they? Yeah, they were.
44:56
Yeah. Yeah, those are.
44:58
What were they call? Oh, shit.
45:00
I can't remember what kind of Turkey it was.
45:01
It's like a white breasted Turkey.
45:03
They were called delicious for sure.
45:06
But yeah, no, we just got, we've got our old Sal out there,
45:10
Penelope, she's like 8 years old.
45:11
She's just old and old and grumpy.
45:14
All she does is she sleeps all day and then when I go twice a
45:16
day, I go out to feed her. She gets up, walks out to the
45:19
food dish, eats and then walks back and then.
45:22
But we've just, we've got 5 piglets out there right now.
45:24
I got to pick up some more this weekend and or next weekend, I
45:28
think. But yeah, like the winter pigs,
45:30
you raise them over the winter, sell them the market in the
45:33
spring, and you. Had the little black one last
45:35
time. Zach.
45:36
Yeah. Zach Dine.
45:38
Yeah, It's kind of tragic, actually.
45:39
He was a really cool pig. Yeah, he was.
45:41
He was just a pet pig. He would run.
45:43
He's like a dog. Yeah, He literally falls all
45:45
around. He was freaking hilarious.
45:49
And yeah, unfortunately, Zach died.
45:54
That's part of farming. I'll tell you, that's the
45:55
hardest part of farming. It's been the hardest thing for
45:59
me is losing animals like you do everything you can for them and
46:02
at the end of the day sometimes it's a parasite sometimes it's
46:05
predator. Like I feel guilty even when a
46:07
fox takes a chicken I feel bad like it's rough but what are you
46:12
going to do right? So anyway, back to TikTok and
46:16
you're 59,000 followers is amazing $59.
46:19
I guess I should be on TikTok. I don't know I just I actually
46:22
been spending too much time on social media recently.
46:25
I've been trying. To cut it down a little bit, but
46:27
it's not it doesn't work these. Flies are outrageous.
46:30
I'm so sorry I put I. Was doing a lot of like face to
46:33
face videos and then I put that thing in my basement.
46:36
I was doing a little bit, but I usually like throw up some of my
46:39
quotes from the books with a nice picture and buying throw
46:41
them up like that and stuff. I put one up when Sage was I
46:46
think like 2 1/2 years old, almost three, looking for a
46:49
mouse that that actually got a quote of previews.
46:52
Yeah. She's like, I'm like, where's
46:54
that mouse? What are you looking at?
46:55
Where's that mouse daddy go? What are you going to do when
46:57
you find it deadpan to the camera and says punch it in the
47:01
nuts? I'm like, what?
47:05
She goes punch it down down to the floor.
47:08
Hilarious kids. Are cute, man yeah, they're
47:11
funny now she. Would punch people in the nuts,
47:13
yeah. Now she's a grown woman, right?
47:15
Like it's wild. But to your point and of the
47:18
book, right, like, yeah, it goes quick.
47:20
Life is fleeting. Time with your kids is fleeting.
47:22
We're doing. We're doing the getting her
47:26
hours in for a road test and she's got to take her FireWire
47:29
course. She's going to junior year,
47:35
going to BOCES for auto mechanic right now.
47:38
Good for her. She might switch it up, she said
47:40
today. So we'll see.
47:41
Stay. In the trades, that is where
47:44
it's at. She bought.
47:44
Steel toed boots this weekend. Awesome, She's.
47:49
Gearing up for wrestling season already.
47:50
She was. She's a little more than what
47:53
she wanted to weigh, so she'd been dieting so I was like 6 lbs
47:57
in less than a week. Sucking weight.
48:01
I can't eat that. I'm like OK, and then call me
48:04
while I'm in bed at like 10:00. Can you go get ice cream?
48:09
No, it's 10:00. One getting ice cream.
48:13
Now she in the the Queensberry female wrestling Whitehall.
48:18
Oh, it's Whitehall. Queensberry doesn't have them.
48:21
Well, I thought they just. Started.
48:23
No, my buddy Brayden that I used to do jiu jitsu with, his kids
48:27
are both into wrestling. His daughter, she, I remember
48:30
our kids when they're little, little like four or five years
48:32
old, were doing jiu jitsu together and she was a beast.
48:35
But I think she wrestles. I know his son Zach's still
48:37
wrestling and is pretty good, but God, I want to say it was
48:42
like they're doing something at the mall.
48:44
Yeah. They're they have the 518
48:46
grapplers up at. The mall.
48:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I told sis she should drop in
48:49
one day because I went up there with King Mall probably six
48:52
months ago. He was, he just showed up.
48:54
He was doing a wrestling event in the food court and
48:57
disappeared. I'm like, where the hell are
48:59
you? He's like, I'm down in the
49:00
basement. I'm like, the mall won't have a
49:03
basement. So I just happened to walk and I
49:05
look in and he's in there teaching class.
49:08
He just popped in and started teaching class.
49:10
So they were like, I was telling one of the owners that my
49:14
daughter wrestled and she's like, yeah, tell her to stop in
49:16
and gave me how much it was going to be.
49:17
Yeah, like you should. She's like, go do.
49:20
But we'll see my. Daughter talked about wrestling
49:22
for a little bit, but then she changed her mind.
49:24
She was doing jiu jitsu for a while.
49:27
She was talking about doing wrestling and but she was
49:29
talking about doing it at the school and I think the whole boy
49:32
thing was just too much for her, which is why it's amazing that
49:35
they have like women so that they can just have girls
49:39
wrestling with girls. It's weird from last year's like
49:45
girls in the tournaments, it was a lot.
49:49
But this year, this past season, holy shit, going to the
49:53
tournaments, it was like doubled what it the girls that were
49:56
there. I mean they have enough girls to
49:58
do sectional champions and she, Sage, qualified for sectionals,
50:03
went to the qualifier, went to the qualifiers, finished 7th.
50:06
But she doesn't understand that's a huge deal for somebody
50:10
who's only been wrestling 2 years.
50:11
Yeah and like where do we go from like this year and all that
50:16
type of stuff? So we'll see, but.
50:18
She likes it. It's amazing.
50:20
I love seeing that the, you know, a lot of the like
50:22
alliances got a great women's program over there now for jiu
50:25
jitsu and I'm sure some of the other schools do too, where it's
50:28
just, I think it's very helpful. Oh for sure, I.
50:31
Know my daughter she she was going to school and she was
50:37
going to sea quarters and then schedule wise and location wise
50:40
was just hard for us. So we took a little time off and
50:42
then she was going to alliance and the very first class
50:45
alliance we go in and it's me her and a bunch of dudes and so
50:54
and she's like A2 stripe white belt, right So she had to go
50:57
into the beginner's side. They bring her into the room.
50:59
This is when they're still in the dock and A and they she came
51:04
back from that. She was so pissed at me.
51:07
She's like dad, I had the rest with I had the I had to roll
51:12
with like this 30 year old man like and I was like, hey,
51:16
listen, I'm like, unfortunately there's no at that time there
51:20
was no girls only program. I'm like, it's just part of it.
51:22
And I said then to be fair, honey, like it's kind of a
51:25
lesson on life. If you do things that are
51:27
uncomfortable and hard on you now, you're going to be a
51:30
monster later on. So when you start tapping out 30
51:33
year old men when you're 15, you know, like she got over it.
51:38
She really got into it and really liked it for a bit, but
51:41
then school just got too busy for her.
51:42
But yeah. It's going to be interesting
51:44
this year at the house. She's going for a job interview
51:47
tonight or talk to somebody about a job tonight.
51:50
She worked at the KOA campground over in Castleton during the
51:53
summer. She put her name in at the
51:55
Lodge, Greg Escape Lodge, and then she's got to talk to
51:59
Downtown City Tavern about a Hostess job tonight.
52:02
Oh my. God I love their wings.
52:03
So do I. They they, I don't know.
52:08
The wood fired wings are just so amazing.
52:11
Fall off the bone. Yeah, they're so good.
52:13
And what is that? That wasabi frickin whatever
52:17
sauce. I don't know what the Hell's in
52:19
it. Like there's a balsamic blue
52:22
which is really good and then there's some wasabi something or
52:24
other. Wasabi Korean.
52:26
Barbecue, I don't know what it is, but man, it is good.
52:29
Shout out to DDTCT over there. So I know we're getting close on
52:35
time here. If people want to find you, they
52:38
want to find your book. Amazon.com, Jason Ingleston, all
52:46
there'll be 5 books on there. In my 4th book or third book
52:49
that I wrote is on barnesandnoble.com, which is
52:53
basically just dead in the water, hasn't really sold
52:55
anything. This actually debuted.
52:58
It's still on the top 50 as of yesterday of new releases for
53:04
the fatherhood category on ebook and paperback.
53:09
Highest it got on the paperback was fourth.
53:12
So debuted really good and they hang in there, which is good
53:17
because the first one debuted like top, you know, in the top
53:22
100 books, which is huge like coming.
53:25
Around, yeah. So when this one debuted, like
53:30
it was as long as I can keep that momentum because again,
53:33
Amazon sees you performing, they kick your book out more.
53:38
And Barnes and Noble don't do that.
53:39
So to debut like that and to see like some of my analytics for
53:45
royalties and know like I know who bought the book.
53:48
And now I'm seeing like, oh, somebody and it's starting to
53:52
pick up, especially with the Kindle, a lot of people, because
53:55
the Kindle price point is only $5.00.
53:57
But you have Kindle that the whatever, I forgot the name of
54:00
it. It's free with your Kindle
54:02
subscription. So it's, it's enrolled in that.
54:05
And then I enrolled this in the it's like a prize thing.
54:08
Do you? Still get paid if it's on the
54:10
free for Kindle. Like, does Amazon still pay for
54:12
them? Yeah, that's nice.
54:15
Yeah. I mean, the royalty for the the
54:17
Kindle is a lot better than the the paperback.
54:19
Well, there's. No cost to the Kindle for those
54:22
guys. You're 80, you're 8020.
54:24
This is 7030 but I do the is that.
54:26
Where they're at right now, it's 7030, Yeah.
54:28
This is 7030, but I do the 6040 split because I put it out on
54:33
the mass market different like this is available and I forgot
54:36
the name of it like books.com or something like that.
54:38
Or I can go overseas to a Japanese site and my books in
54:41
like Japanese. Like I thought that was cool.
54:44
My biggest thing is, and I this is my number one goal of being a
54:49
writer is I submitted my second book to a huge publishing
54:52
company. I'm still waiting on the return
54:54
on that, but it's one that is very, very proficient and the
55:00
Target stores and Walmart. So I'm hoping that something can
55:04
come up with that because that's my that's my biggest dream of
55:07
being a writer is to walk into a store.
55:09
That'd be cool. See your book on the shelf and.
55:12
Then I could probably retire now.
55:14
I'll never stop writing like writing this.
55:16
Like there was no like headache during it like writing the other
55:21
ones. But I like there's times I just
55:24
want to like crow up on the ball and go ahead.
55:27
I don't want to do this no more. But with this one.
55:29
And then I wrote like a back-to-back once this was
55:32
finished. And I told people like I told my
55:34
my fiance and Sage and like I got a book.
55:36
And they're like, well, I'm like, yeah, I wrote a book.
55:39
She's like you did. So I told him, but I go, yeah,
55:42
but I'm writing this one too. It's a fiction book.
55:45
It's called Echoes in the Walls. And it's about a father and a
55:49
daughter and he loses his wife to an accident and they move
55:55
into this house and the house is basically talking to them and go
56:01
from there. Go from.
56:01
There. All right.
56:02
We'll have to read it. Yeah.
56:03
It's a it's a really easy read. It's not like a novel type
56:07
thing, but again, I think it's like 200 pages so.
56:12
Well, I love what you're doing, man.
56:14
I like there's so many people out there that want to write a
56:17
book and don't do it or start to write a book and keep putting it
56:20
off and it's. It's very fulfilling like this.
56:24
I think I'm coming out of that whole imposter syndrome thing
56:28
where I'm starting to feel like. An actual author?
56:30
Yeah. I'm like, I'm actually starting
56:32
to get like goosebumps and things or being this, I think
56:35
this one being so emotional writing it, I think just said,
56:37
you know what, Like you're oh, see, now I'm going to get
56:44
emotional. No, you're a dad and you're
56:48
you're doing everything like I'm doing everything I ever wanted
56:51
to do. Like, and I've said this before,
56:53
I wanted to be an MMA fighter and I did.
56:56
I wanted to be a coach and open the gym and I did.
56:58
I wanted to be a promoter and I did.
57:00
And I want to be an author and I always want to be a dad and I
57:05
want to play guitar and sing. I'm going to do that so.
57:08
Are you a good singer? Yeah, I actually.
57:11
I can tell everybody right now I should have a song on Spotify
57:15
within the next couple weeks. Nice.
57:17
So amazing. These platforms, yeah, because
57:20
again, 20 years ago, you wouldn't be able to do it unless
57:22
someone picked you up. Yeah, right.
57:23
That's wow, yeah. I actually recorded it in my
57:25
basement. You.
57:26
Could be like the next Oliver Anthony.
57:29
I can't really move my right arm too much and I can't play very
57:32
long because of my shoulder, but I it's actually the song I call
57:36
is something in the echo Nice and everybody I seem to be
57:40
playing for loves it. Like I record it in video and
57:44
then I transcribed everything over to audio and, you know,
57:47
edited a little bit with here and there and they come out
57:50
good. You're.
57:51
A real Renaissance man. So I hear I like, I went to a
57:54
party yesterday and my my buddy had my book and he showed this
57:59
guy and the guy's like, I always wanted to write a book.
58:01
And I like, I got these ideas and it's be science fiction.
58:05
And I'm like, just do it. He's like, I'm 50 years old.
58:07
I'm like, oh, give me shit. Yeah.
58:08
What does that mean? Who?
58:09
Cares 50's the new 30 and I really believe that I.
58:12
Do too man, when? We were young and we would look
58:14
at 50 year olds and they were old.
58:15
They were old, I will never forget.
58:18
That's 'cause we're Gen. Xers, dude.
58:20
We're built different. We are built different I.
58:22
Remember being 18 years old. It was right before I graduated.
58:26
And this is a core memory and I'd like, I remember stupid
58:29
shit. I remember thinking, wow, when
58:33
I'm 30, that's old. Like I'm going to be 30 in like
58:37
12 years. Holy shit, wild.
58:39
But now I'm like, I'm 48 years old.
58:41
I don't feel 48 and I don't ever.
58:43
I don't know if you feel the same way.
58:45
Do you ever think about how old you are?
58:46
Because I think a lot of people that really fixate on holy shit,
58:50
like I'm almost 50 or that type of stuff.
58:54
I think it plays with your mind where OK, I'm going to feel the
58:57
way I you know what I mean? My grandfather was my
59:00
grandfather never thought about age.
59:01
And I think that's why they, they lived him and his brothers
59:04
lived to be so old because he was 88 years old, still chasing
59:09
women and living like he was 1718 years old.
59:14
I mean, most 80 year olds, 90 year olds, you think all right,
59:17
they're in either in a nursing home or they're not doing too
59:20
great. Him and his buddies are going to
59:21
Walmart and buying magic bullets and going to McDonald's and
59:26
picking on each other. Like I had that like I brought
59:28
him to quite a few like doctor's appointments and stuff.
59:32
And I brought him to he went and wanted to see his sister was in
59:36
the, I don't know, somebody he knew was in the nursing home or
59:39
in, up in Thai. And we went over to where he
59:43
hung out with all his buddies at the the Thai McDonald's.
59:47
And to hear that they don't bust their balls just like we would.
59:49
And I don't know which doesn't change which is good.
59:52
Yeah, I don't think. I mean, I joke around all the
59:54
time about being old, but like, I don't.
59:57
I certainly don't let being 48. Define any of the things that I
1:00:02
do on a daily basis. I don't.
1:00:03
Like, I hear people talk that way, and it's like, what are you
1:00:05
talking about? Like, well, you know, I'm almost
1:00:08
this age and I'm like, what the hell does that mean?
1:00:10
Yeah, go ahead and run a fucking marathon.
1:00:12
Like do whatever you want to do. Yeah, shit.
1:00:14
You're, I'm seeing you doing. I got to start doing that too
1:00:17
well. I'll tell you physically.
1:00:18
With my shoulder, I still I'm I'm very limited to on on stuff,
1:00:23
but I can still kick over people's head and I can still do
1:00:26
some like a split so. You know, I just, I don't know
1:00:31
from that, from like the physical standpoint of aging.
1:00:33
I just, I'm going to fight it tooth and nail.
1:00:35
I'm going to try to be as physically fit as I can for as
1:00:39
long as I can. And I, you know, it's funny
1:00:41
because I go to the doctors and get that check up and stuff and
1:00:44
they go, Oh, you know, you're going to start slowing down.
1:00:46
And I'm like, no, I'm not, I'm like, I'm not.
1:00:50
I just don't subscribe to that. I'm sorry, like not doing it.
1:00:53
I. Said I look at it this way, my
1:00:55
upper body with my shoulder and my arm stuff falling apart a
1:00:59
little bit, but I'm going to gauge it like I just said, if I
1:01:04
can still kick over people's heads or I can still do a semi
1:01:07
Roundhouse or you know any of them type of kicks, then I don't
1:01:11
feel young or I don't feel old. I mean, I still feel like I'm
1:01:14
dead when I was started learning that stuff before.
1:01:18
But you see people put a they put the governor on themselves
1:01:21
where I can't do that. Yeah, that's tear a muscle.
1:01:23
Well, if you think you're going to tear a muscle, that's.
1:01:25
Well, said the governor. Yeah, I refuse to have that
1:01:28
exactly. And that's.
1:01:30
I know someone's probably listening to this and go on
1:01:31
like, all right, they're Peter Pan, like whatever.
1:01:34
I just, I'm not, I just, I think it's too easy to be like, oh,
1:01:38
I'm just getting tools for that and stop doing things and and
1:01:41
then you're just dying at that point, so.
1:01:43
And I'm sure we've both come across people that are our age
1:01:46
that look like they're twice as twice our age and still, still
1:01:51
don't get it. Like, you're as young as you
1:01:54
feel. Yeah.
1:01:56
Like, there's days I do feel like I'm 90, but there's days
1:01:59
where I wake up and go. I think I'm in like a better
1:02:04
space of like being able to still like, you know, move like
1:02:10
I did when I was in my 20s, which I don't really remember
1:02:12
too much about my 20s. Maybe that's what it is, Jay.
1:02:17
Thanks for coming on board, man. I appreciate it.
1:02:19
Always a pleasure. Thanks for coming out to the
1:02:20
farm. Check out the book on Amazon and
1:02:25
buy like 10 copies to everybody and then follow.
1:02:28
Me on TikTok, yeah. That's good to say.
1:02:31
How do I be the subscriber? 60,000 here on TikTok.
1:02:34
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