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Halloween Week: The Ancient Ram Inn · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, back for more. Already are we did day one
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  Speaker 1: of Halloween Week not satiate your appetite? Well, then you
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  Speaker 1: are in luck because with one day gone, that still
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  Speaker 1: means there are six days to go yet in Halloween Week.
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  Speaker 1: But you see, the first case of the week was
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  Speaker 1: merely a warm up, meant to ease you into the
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  Speaker 1: strange and into the paranormal. Today, your hosts have something
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  Speaker 1: a little more spooky, as you may call it, I,
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  Speaker 1: for one, would instead call it down right evil, but
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  Speaker 1: I will leave it to you to decide what you
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  Speaker 1: want to call it.
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  Speaker 2: I will be your master of.
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  Speaker 1: Ceremonies for this week. My name is Jacko, and if
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  Speaker 1: you may allow me to introduce you to your guides
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  Speaker 1: during this fourth annual Halloween Week.
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  Speaker 2: Here they are.
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  Speaker 1: You're ever so illustrious hosts of Wicked and Grim Ben and.
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  Speaker 2: Nicole ding Dang, he does it again every time.
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  Speaker 3: It's chills, every single fucking time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have to also say it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of forgot. I don't know why, just like
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  Speaker 2: internalize this, but Spooky sees it already getting to me.
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  Speaker 2: I think the vampire shit's getting to me. Oh wise,
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  Speaker 2: we also watched some sort of a movie too, right
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  Speaker 2: that there was like vampires.
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  Speaker 3: Recently interview with vampire.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's such an easy title. I would remember that.
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  Speaker 2: But I was drinking like hibiscus tea and I had
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  Speaker 2: the tea bag and the bowl like because I had
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  Speaker 2: taken it out of my water, and it looks like
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  Speaker 2: very red, like the liquids in there, like kind of bloody.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, but I would never have thought that,
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  Speaker 2: probably before all this vampire shit talk.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just getting started, just getting started. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say specifically about vampires, but the whole
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  Speaker 3: thing just in general with the spooky season. The goose,
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  Speaker 3: the goose, like the ghosts, the ghosts and ghoules, and
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  Speaker 3: I mean in Canada, honestly, gooses are pretty scary.
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  Speaker 2: So well, they're all flying. They're flying south right now.
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  Speaker 2: They are. They're flying away from us because they're like, shit,
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  Speaker 2: we're not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too fucking cold.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I was. I'm flying with them, to be.
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  Speaker 3: Honest, wouldn't that be amazing to just fucking peace out
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  Speaker 3: whenever you wanted to?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, when it's like okay, like this is getting
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  Speaker 2: a bit chilly, like I'm done with this. No, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just whenever you want, well, they don't whenever, they just
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  Speaker 2: go when they the cold weather's coming.
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  Speaker 3: Now, whenever the fuck they want to, They're like, no,
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  Speaker 3: it's too cold them out.
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  Speaker 2: I actually feel like it's a bit late, Like I'm
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  Speaker 2: I'm almost feeling like they should have already left.
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  Speaker 3: Oh a lot have there still are some going, but
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  Speaker 3: majority ors have gone.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just like, hurry up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We also have a lot going on this week outside
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  Speaker 3: of Halloween week. We're even moving because if you don't know,
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  Speaker 3: we live in a tiny home and we're moving our
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  Speaker 3: tiny home this week to a new spot. So we've
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  Speaker 3: got a lot packing, a lot of packing up, and
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  Speaker 3: just a lot of moving stuff in general going on
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  Speaker 3: during this whole seven days of spookiness, because.
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  Speaker 2: Who the fuck decides to move? Well, it's Halloween week,
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  Speaker 2: apparently us Apparently. I just so question and so often,
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  Speaker 2: like what are we doing with our life? I know it,
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  Speaker 2: I know it just kind of worked out that way.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, fair enough. I can tell you one thing
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  Speaker 3: that we did decide to do with our life, and
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  Speaker 3: it was a super cool photo shoot that was posted
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  Speaker 3: today and you guys, have you're loving it?
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  Speaker 2: Lastly, I know, I wonder if it's a fan favorite, right,
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  Speaker 2: that's a good question.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious, which because what have we done? We've done
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  Speaker 2: We've kind of gone all over this. We have the Pumpkin,
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  Speaker 2: the ghosts. We did like what was that like? We
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  Speaker 2: looked kind of dead dish.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did like skull makeup, and then then we
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  Speaker 3: just like dressed up in like black and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then yeah, we did the zombie thing and
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  Speaker 2: then now this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now the skeleton onesies. This was certainly the most
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  Speaker 3: comfortable of the costumes.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I did really like the ghosts one though too.
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  Speaker 2: That was pretty fun but and it wasn't uncomfortable, but
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't see shit.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, and that year we did the pumpkins and
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  Speaker 3: the ghosts. Yeah, we did like two in one.
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  Speaker 2: I know, we screwed that up.
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  Speaker 3: We did.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're going to run out of ideas.
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  Speaker 3: No, trust me, Well we'll get it going, we'll.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Figure, there's always going to be something, just like the cases,
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  Speaker 3: there's always going to be a case at hand, And
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  Speaker 3: today is one that has been on my radar for
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  Speaker 3: a while, not necessarily for like the podcast by any means.
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  Speaker 3: But this is a haunted location that I've always been
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  Speaker 3: intrigued by. It's kind of like a bucket list item
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  Speaker 3: to travel to. I don't know if I would ever
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  Speaker 3: stay there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you can actually stay at this place.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you can. This is an inn.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you would go there, But so you
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  Speaker 2: happily go in, but you're just not sure you would
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  Speaker 2: stay over correct. Okay, So.
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  Speaker 3: I'm wondering what you guys would do if you would
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  Speaker 3: stay at this place. Let us know, let us know
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  Speaker 3: if you would even go there. I'm curious, and Nicole
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  Speaker 3: at the end of this, you got to let us
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  Speaker 3: know your thoughts too, if you would stay, if you
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  Speaker 3: had crossed the threshold of that door, or what you
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  Speaker 3: would do.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I have stayed in a haunted place before
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  Speaker 2: in Barkerville. True, but like it's haunted, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: The stories don't seem terrible. So I'll listen to this
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  Speaker 2: and see what I think.
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  Speaker 3: This is certainly more haunted than the Barkerville place.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this place is known as the Ancient ram Inn.
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  Speaker 3: Huh okay, okay, So this inn is a significant historical
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  Speaker 3: building located in Wooten under Edge, which is a market
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  Speaker 3: town in the Stroud district of Glutenshire, England. I really
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  Speaker 3: hope I said that right. Gloucestonshire. Maybe is how he
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  Speaker 3: actually say that?
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  Speaker 2: That sounds better?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Gloucestershire, England. It is also one of England's most
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  Speaker 3: haunted locations and it is an infamous paranormal hotspot.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, Okay, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So the inn aptly named the Ancient Ram is exactly that.
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  Speaker 3: It is ancient. It's an eight hundred year old Grade
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  Speaker 3: to historical building built of stacked stones and supporting wood beams.
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  Speaker 3: It boths small rooms with narrow hallways and small steps
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  Speaker 3: and fireplaces throughout. Looking at it, it is something directly
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  Speaker 3: out of the medieval era. Now, I say Ancient Ram
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  Speaker 3: is eight hundred years old, but in reality no one
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  Speaker 3: knows its exact age. The deed to the Ancient Ram
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  Speaker 3: inn now they're mostly written in Norman French, and they
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  Speaker 3: are held in the Record's office, not actually in like
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  Speaker 3: a person's hand. It's the Historical Records Office. But translated
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  Speaker 3: to English, they read quote the Ancient Ram in dates
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  Speaker 3: to time immemorial. Now Time immemorial is a phrase meaning
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  Speaker 3: time extended beyond the reach of memory, record or tradition.
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  Speaker 3: So the paper trail leads back eight hundred years ago. However,
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  Speaker 3: the deed documents that it is most likely constructed far
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  Speaker 3: beyond the existence of any records they have. It literally
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  Speaker 3: predates any records in the era. It could be around
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  Speaker 3: one thousand years old today and that's approximately what they
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  Speaker 3: estimate it to be.
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  Speaker 2: Really, yes, huh, this.
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  Speaker 3: Inn is estimated to be a thousand years old.
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  Speaker 2: All I want to keep saying is that's ancient.
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  Speaker 3: The ancient ram in there we go.
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  Speaker 2: So the title is very or the name or whatever's
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  Speaker 2: very fitting.
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  Speaker 3: It's extremely fitting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now, though we don't know exactly when it was built
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  Speaker 3: or who built it per se, there are historians who
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  Speaker 3: believe they have the best guess as to how this
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  Speaker 3: building came to be. They suspect it was built around
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  Speaker 3: the year eleven forty five and was originally owned by
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  Speaker 3: the local Saint Mary's Church in the nearby village of
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  Speaker 3: the Wooton under Edge. Now, it was possibly constructed to
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  Speaker 3: house masons and other laborers who are working on building
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  Speaker 3: the church during this time. And as for the land
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  Speaker 3: that it sits on, that was also owned by the church,
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  Speaker 3: and it is also believed that before the inn was
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  Speaker 3: built on that soil, that site was possibly a pagan
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  Speaker 3: burial ground.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well that would cause some shit to go down
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  Speaker 2: in there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're building something on a burial ground, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, some stuff's not go right. So now, as
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  Speaker 3: part of the church owned property, it was likely administered
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  Speaker 3: by the clergy or their appointees for some time. But
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  Speaker 3: once the church was eventually completed, the ancient ram Inn
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  Speaker 3: became an important resting place for travelers and clergies passing
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  Speaker 3: through the area, as it was situated along a very
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  Speaker 3: busy route in the medieval England. Okay, and thus it began,
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  Speaker 3: you know, being a place to rest for those weary
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  Speaker 3: travelers to find a night to sleep and before they
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  Speaker 3: continue on their way in the morning. At some point,
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  Speaker 3: after its original purpose for church workers was fulfilled, the
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  Speaker 3: ancient ram In would have been asked into private hands. Now,
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  Speaker 3: records of this time are very sparse, but it is
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  Speaker 3: believed that the local families would have taken over the
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  Speaker 3: property and it served various purposes, including operating as an
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  Speaker 3: inn as it kind of already mentioned, and it would
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  Speaker 3: later eventually become a private residence as well.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Now, one of the most well known periods in its
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  Speaker 3: history comes from its time as a coaching inn that
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  Speaker 3: accommodated horses on the property as well as providing accommodations
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  Speaker 3: for food and travelers and stuff during the eighteenth and
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  Speaker 3: nineteenth centuries. But during this time it was a part
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  Speaker 3: of the local community and was likely owned by wealthy
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  Speaker 3: families or innkeepers whose names have unfortunately been lost to history.
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  Speaker 3: But in modern times, though, the most prominent individual who
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  Speaker 3: ever owned the ancient ram Inn was a man by
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  Speaker 3: the name of John Humphries, who purchased the property in
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  Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's not that's kind of far ago or long
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  Speaker 2: long ago. Far ago, not far ago long ago.
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  Speaker 3: Someone told me long Okay, Sorry, I was just dropping
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  Speaker 3: some CCR.
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  Speaker 2: Where am I going with it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so that's the wrong John. That's John Fogerty. Now
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  Speaker 3: we're talking John Humphries. Sorry, I digress, my bad.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, both of us are just like.
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  Speaker 3: Spiral, Connecticut. Yeah yeah, so we I mean, this building
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  Speaker 3: is like a thousand years old, So saying that we
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  Speaker 3: are going back to nineteen sixty eight. That's not that
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  Speaker 3: long ago. No, that's a single lifetime ago basically.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So, now, John being this central figure in the
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  Speaker 3: Inn's history and keeping its history alive, he was very
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  Speaker 3: prominent with and associated with the end quite frequently. But
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  Speaker 3: among his hard work on the property, John also claimed
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  Speaker 3: to have experienced intense paranormal activity from the very moment
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  Speaker 3: he moved into its stone walls. Okay, so a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the stuff we talked about was just kind of
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  Speaker 3: like easing you into what this property is and the
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  Speaker 3: history that we know about it, and most of the history,
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  Speaker 3: like if I'm being honest, is speculative stuff. There's not
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot that really tells us what it actually
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  Speaker 3: was served for. It's just kind of best guess sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the fact that this building is still even in
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  Speaker 2: existence is mind blowing to me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh definitely. Now, I will say this, It's not in
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  Speaker 3: the best condition. It's a thousand years.
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  Speaker 2: Old, right, well, yeah, I can imagine that, Like it
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  Speaker 2: blows and someone could even sleep in there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah this point, so, like as much as restorations and
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  Speaker 3: stuff can do, it can only do so much. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this building, I mean, who knows how much longer it
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  Speaker 3: will last. But for how old it is, it's doing
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  Speaker 3: very well, that's for sure. Now John's first night after
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  Speaker 3: he owned this place at the Ancient Ramen in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: sixty eight, it has become a pivotal part in the
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  Speaker 3: Inn's paranormal lore, and is of course also become an
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  Speaker 3: infamous story all in itself. So, according to his account,
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  Speaker 3: his first night there immediately revealed the chilling nature of
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  Speaker 3: the property to him. As he turned down for the evening,
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  Speaker 3: something didn't quite feel right to him. John felt a
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  Speaker 3: strange and menacing presence that he just couldn't seem to shake,
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  Speaker 3: almost like someone or something was watching his every move.
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  Speaker 3: Someone was kind of breathing down his neck. There's just
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  Speaker 3: something there that he couldn't quite put his finger on. Now,
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  Speaker 3: as the story goes, during the night, as John slept
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  Speaker 3: in his bed, suddenly he felt something grab his arm,
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  Speaker 3: and in that moment, he was suddenly pulled from the
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  Speaker 3: bed where he slept, dragging him out from underneath the
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  Speaker 3: covers before he was thrown across the room. But when
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  Speaker 3: John looked up, there was no one there. He looked
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  Speaker 3: around in a panic, but he was alone. That same
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  Speaker 3: menacing presence, though still lingered as John's eyes adjusted to
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  Speaker 3: the dark, trying to see this invisible entity that had
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  Speaker 3: just attacked him, but John just couldn't see it. John
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  Speaker 3: sat on the floor in that room, terrified, but he
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  Speaker 3: was also in It was in that moment John knew
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  Speaker 3: this place was haunted, but despite the very terrifying experience,
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  Speaker 3: he just endured. John did not leave. Instead, he became
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  Speaker 3: more determined to stay in the house and understand what
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  Speaker 3: was happening.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's quite an individual, because I would be
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  Speaker 2: running for the damn hills myself. Yeah, so I already
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  Speaker 2: know the answer. I wouldn't be staying there. That's like
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  Speaker 2: pretty aggressive.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's very aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: Something is pulling you out of bed. So no, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: So I need to clarify when you said you wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: stay there. Are you saying you wouldn't stay there if
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  Speaker 3: you're John, or are you saying you will not stay
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  Speaker 3: there or grow to its door? Like now it is
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  Speaker 3: you Nicole?
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  Speaker 2: All the above?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, would you even walk into this building? Oh? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you'd go there, you just wouldn't stay Well.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not. I mean, I gotta listen to more here.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact of just trying to sleep and being
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  Speaker 2: worried that someone, someone that isn't even there, is going
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  Speaker 2: to pull you out of bed. Is just this is
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  Speaker 2: something I don't need to experience.
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  Speaker 3: I really blame you on that. I feel you. I'm
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  Speaker 3: in the same boat. So yeah, I mean for John,
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  Speaker 3: though after this first night, he kept staying there, he
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  Speaker 3: kept living there, and the paranormal activity in the inn
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  Speaker 3: only continued for him.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 3: So he reported a wide range of unsettling and inexplicable
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  Speaker 3: phenomena throughout his years living there. For example, John and
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  Speaker 3: various visitors have reported seeing full bodied apparitions wandering and
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  Speaker 3: appearing throughout the inn. Now, if you're not sure what
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  Speaker 3: a full full bodied apparition is, an apparition is like
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  Speaker 3: a spirit of a person. So you see someone appear
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  Speaker 3: in front of you. But a full bodied means head
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  Speaker 3: to toe, legs, body, arms, head, you name it.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I figured.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a full bodied ghost. Now. These apparitions
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  Speaker 3: include a woman who is believed to be a former
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  Speaker 3: innkeeper and a little girl as well that goes by
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  Speaker 3: the name of Rosie. But one of the more infamous
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  Speaker 3: ghosts that is said to roam the walls of the
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  Speaker 3: ancient ram In is that of a witch who was
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  Speaker 3: reportedly burned at the stake in the area during the
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  Speaker 3: fifteen hundreds. Now her crime not believing or practicing in Christianity.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, that's a whole whole tale on itself, that
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  Speaker 3: whole yeah thing that went down with that. But she
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  Speaker 3: is believed to haunt a particular room in the inn,
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  Speaker 3: one that has sincely since been aptly named the Witch's Room. Okay, Still,
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  Speaker 3: more strange things have been reported, though. Objects in the
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  Speaker 3: inn are said to suddenly move on their own, with
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  Speaker 3: furniture shifting or even things flying across the room, crashing
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  Speaker 3: into the wall at the other end of the room
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  Speaker 3: and falling to the floor. Door slams shut without explanation,
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  Speaker 3: and disembodies. Disembodied footsteps are said to be heard throughout
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  Speaker 3: the inn, often in the dead of night, with no
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  Speaker 3: source of explanation.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that kind of gave me the chills.
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  Speaker 3: Could you imagine sleeping there and you just hear someone
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  Speaker 3: walking up to your door and then it stops, and
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  Speaker 3: that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Would you go and see if anyone's out there?
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  Speaker 3: No, I've shipped myself. That's my answer for any scenario
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  Speaker 3: is either A I would not be there because I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to stay there, or B I would shit
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  Speaker 3: myself if those are the only two options.
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  Speaker 2: But honestly, I could see you wanting to stay there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm intrigued to you.
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  Speaker 3: What you're I one want to stay there. I also,
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent would not be able to stay there
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  Speaker 3: because I'd be like, let's do this. Nope, I'm out,
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  Speaker 3: Like they would.
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  Speaker 2: The tiniest a thing of something off would happen and
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  Speaker 2: you would just be gone.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent, Like I would be so on edge,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: you could like put down a bag behind me, and
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I'd probably shit myself and leave.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: You would still fall asleep, though I think.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I think you would. I don't fall asleep pretty easily.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I do, but I don't know. In a situation like that,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: that's different. It's totally different.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: John has also claimed strange sounds other than just these
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: footsteps can be heard. Some of the other sounds that
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: he claims occur are sounds like whispering and distant screams. Yeah,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: these are apparently a common occurrence, and he is not
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the only person who actually hear these things either. Many
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: visitors have heard them too, though they may arrive initially
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: at the end as you know skeptics, but they generally
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: leave the Ancient Ram as believers. Still, this place holds
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: even more darker secrets. Yet, several people, including paranormal investigators,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: report feeling as though they've been possessed or are being
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: controlled by a malevolent spirit. Visitors would described feeling dizzy, faint,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: or experiencing overwhelming emotions of things like rage or sadness,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: things that just quickly consume over them and they can't
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: explain it. Himself said that he was frequently physically attacked
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: by unseen forces, being scratched, pushed, or suddenly feeling ill.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, good for John, but he is putting himself
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: through some shit here.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: He is putting himself through the Ringer, And honestly, like
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: why it's it doesn't make sense to me, But it
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: seems like he's got an attachment of some sort for
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: one reason or another. Who knows, Yeah, well.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: And then I don't know. Maybe maybe he's always been
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: interested in spirits and ghosts and stuff, and that's true,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: trying to learn more, or he could even want to help, right,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: that's true because you hear these stories that I don't
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: know if they're real or whatever, but like that, the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: ghosts just need help, right or something, or they're stuck
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: or well.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: And it could also be that he's not even necessarily
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: trying to help the spirits, but he's trying to help
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the public and keep them safe from the spirits. If
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: he's there to contain them, then he's able to protect
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: people from getting hurt. If he's the one being pushed
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: by what he knows is going to happen, he's experienced it,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: he's there, he knows, you know, what pushes their buttons
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: or whatever, he can protect other people from it himself,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: basically putting himself as a sacrificial lamb.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Now, above all things that are said to happen and
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: haunt the ancient Ram, though, the most frightening thing is
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: an infamous entity that wanders these walls. This is a
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: demon known as an incubus. This is a malevolent spirit
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: that is known for attacking people in their sleep, just
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: as John experienced on his very first night sleeping at
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: the Ram. Now, experiences in theoretical history are only a
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: few parts to this story, with claims of spirits and
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: theories of dark history, you know, all these different things.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: There was only there's only really one thing missing that
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: could actually cement this haunted building into the legend that
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: it is today, actual evidence to support paranormal claims. And
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: it just so happens that John may have found that
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: exact evidence. So during his time in the inn, John
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: not only cared for the building, but he also did
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: some quite a few renovations, both for his living purposes
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: and of course for restoration as well. Right, But during
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: some of these renovations and you know, explorations of the
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: property and such, John stumbled upon several disturbing artifacts. And
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: the most chilling of these discoveries were that of human
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: skeletal remains which were found beneath the floorboards and the
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: stairs inside the inn.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Oh man, okay, okay, that's not surprising at all, really considering.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Right, considering, Yeah, definitely not. You're being like pulled out
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: of bed and there's voices and screams and apparitions, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you pull up floorboards and there's a skeleton.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: See that's almost worse though, Like I feel like finding
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: that in you know, somewhere you're staying or living or whatever, like, no, thanks, Oh.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I agree, But how is that that worse though?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Then being pulled out of bed by a demon?
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're saying finding a skeleton worst and being pulled
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: out of bed, well.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Kind of like that's scary. Shit. I don't know, it's
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: like a physical something that's.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: There, right, yeah, but I'm more afraid of what I
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: can't see personally.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: To Shay too, Shae. But then you just I don't know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you don't know the story of how the person necessarily
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: died and no debt, and their bodies like hidden, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: so that's just maybe some bad like ju ju, bad
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: energy going on in there, right well, we already were
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: already very aware of.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of bad energy for sure. I
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: do want to clarify, though, I don't know to the
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: extent of what quote skeleton remains mean. I'm not saying
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: it's a full skeleton. I'm pretty sure it's probably like
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: fragments and stuff like maybe a rib bone, things like that.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: But it's not like he pulls up the floorboard and
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: there's just a human skeleton just playing there, full intact.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: But some of the bones found are actually believed to
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: be that belonging to children really, yes, And they were
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: found alongside items such as daggers and pottery fragments. So
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: this discovery of the remains and daggers specifically led to
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: speculation that these remains were evidence of ancient rituals and
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: possibly some people believe this linked the ancient ram to
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: pagan practices and witchcraft. In particular, it gave rise to
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: the theory that the site was used for sacrificing children
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: in ancient times.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: My brain did go there, and I was like, oh, man,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: should I admit that that's where my brain went, because
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that's like super awkward. So I'm glad that it wasn't off.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: No, that's definitely where a lot of people go, and
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: that's terrible, yeah, isn't it.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: So it is believed that the area around the inn
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: could have been a place where rituals were practiced, possibly
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: pagan in nature, and they were performed here in the site,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: which maybe the explanation as to why the intense paranormal
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: activities is being reported at the site now, whether it's
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: you know, the spirits of those deceased, or these rituals
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: opened up you know, doorways to demons or whatever. We
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: don't know. We can only speculate, but those are some
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: theories as to why these, of course are happening. But
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: despite these horrifying things, though, John became attached to the
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: ancient ram Inn. As I already mentioned, he basically saw
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: it as his mission to preserve the building and its
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: dark history. Along with it. He opened the house to
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: paranormal investigators, to journalists, and of course thrill seekers as well,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: all of whom reported strange phenomenon during their stays, some people,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: of course running out in the middle of the night
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: and never coming back.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, just like leaving their shit and they're gone.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Ay now, John seemed to have become somewhat desensitized to
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: the paranormal activity over time, and it almost seemed as
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: though he had grown fond of the spirits and entities
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: in this home. Still, though, John always maintained that the
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: building was unsafe for the faint of heart, and that
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: there is is particularly why I think he kind of
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: almost made himself that sacrificial lamb. I'm used to it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: They can do this to me, and I'll protect other
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: people from enduring that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: You almost wonder if the ghosts or whatever we're calling them,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: like you know could grow fond of John and over
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: time like not spook him as much. I have no idea, Yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: how this shit works, I.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Would definitely say so. I don't have this written in
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the script that I'm reading here, and we are almost
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: at the end, but I have watched some documentaries on
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: this and John walking through and explaining some of the places.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: And there's one one room in particular, and I think
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: it's the one with the incubus, the demon where he
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: always knocks before he enters. He's like, if you don't like,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: you'll piss him off. He's like, you knock first.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, So every.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Time he goes up these stairs and he gets to
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: this room, he fucking knocks.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Holy shit.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: So things like that, like the entities or spirits.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: He's getting to know them.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: He is and they are. I mean, honestly, it's just
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: like living with bad roommates at that point. You you
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: live with each other, you learn each other's you know
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: what pisses each other off, and you try not to
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: step in each other's toes, and you go on with
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: your day. John knows that if you fucking go in
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: this room without your present, like without announcing your presence,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have a bad time.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And so that room. Can you stay in that room?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I can't recall if he allows people to stay in
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: that room or not.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like that should be a hard No.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I can't recall, honestly, the documentary that I'm talking about.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I did not watch it in my research here. I've
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: watched that one like probably six months ago. I am
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: well versed in the Ancient Ramit. I watch stuff on
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: it quite frequently.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to watch stuff because it's I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: want to see a photo too. It's very interesting.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Oh it's it's this gorgeous little place. It's beautiful. It's
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: dilap but it's so beautiful, and it's like, like I said,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: straight out of a medieval eras so cool.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: John continued to live in and look after the Ancient
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Ram until he passed away in twenty seventeen, and he
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: passed away surrounded by the ghosts and the dark energy
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: that he believed were bound to the inn. Even when
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: many suggested that he leave or sell the property, John
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: just absolutely refused. When he was alive, he believed that
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: it was his responsibility to keep the spirits contained in
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: the walls. John's personal experiences and stories have been featured
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: in numerous paranormal documentaries, books, TV shows, you name it
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: all over the years, and the building has become an
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: iconic place, you know what, not even iconic, a legendary
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: place at this point, let's be honest, a legendary place
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: for ghost hunters around the world. And now, since John's passing,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: he has actually since passed the Ancient ram In to
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: his daughter, Caroline Humphries, who now continues to manage the inn,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: sharing her father's story and legacy with the world, or
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: at least those who are brave enough to actually step
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: through the door of the Ancient ram But Caroline herself,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: she refuses to stay a night at the end.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, that says a lot right there, doesn't it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: It does, and that is the story of the Ancient
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: ram In. Huh So tell me would you stay a
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: night at that place? I wouldn't.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: No, No, because why because why? Like I don't know
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: really why? Right?
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: No, Nope, don't need that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just feel only right if I'm
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: on holidays and want you know, it's it's not to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: just get to get like just pulled out of bed
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and ship like it's to relax.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Like, shut up, I want to get a good night's sleeping.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Like, I will probably be pissed, will you know, I'm
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: so delusional in the middle of the night. I probably
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: wouldn't even know what was going on.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: You would probably get mad at me. This is probably
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: what would happen. You'd roll over and get mad at me. Meanwhile,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: there's a ghost yankin on your leg trying to haul
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: you out of bed, and you're like, ben, fuck off.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I'm like what I could see this happening too.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: So you can stay there, but you can also just
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: go into or for like a tour or something I'm imagined.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure everything that you do in this
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: building you have to book ahead of time. Oh yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: but yeah, you can just kind of go for visit.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: You can.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: It's open to paranormal investigators. Like you can go and
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: like book this place of the evening and you can
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: bring in cameras. You can film a fucking TV show there,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: documentary or whatever. Of course, you just need to make
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: sure that you contact Caroline and book it accordingly.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna show me a photo of this place?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I can I want to see what it looks like
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and you said this was in England, right, Yes, huh.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And that's so hard to because I feel like John
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: was just so attached to this place, right he was.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: It's that's hard for his daughter, like she almost has
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to keep it right, and then it just seems like
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it's something that has to stay in the family very much.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: So I mean potentially you can just.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: So like attached to it so adamant.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to take care of the place.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I don't know why. That's not exactly what
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I was expecting. But it is pretty, isn't it. Yeah,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: it's really cute.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: The stone work, the whitewashed outside, those those dark wooden
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: beams supporting it and crossing across the front and everything.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: The fact that they've kept this this, you know, alive, is.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: That the right work standing?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: How is that?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Is like incredible, isn't it. That's very cool.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: That's got to be a testament to the people who
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: actually built.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It, Like, oh yeah, no kidding.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: This is not some grand architecture. This is just like
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: this looks like a pub down the road sort of thing,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: and yet it stood for like a thousand years.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: That would be cool to turn it into a pub.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: There are some some creepy haunted pubs like that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if people would, you know, actually want
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to go in if the pub would end up doing
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: well or not.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think people would go in there and
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: just like expect like haunted things to happen. But even
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: if they did, they'd just be like, oh, that dumb
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: drunk back there, just knock the painting off.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: The wall, like, you know, yeah, huh. Interesting. I imagine
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: too that there's some people that go in there though,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and don't experience anything.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, I would imagine so for sure.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But it isn't like it's a guarantee.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: No, no, definitely not, but it is most it is
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: one of the most haunted places in the UK, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: as such there is like a lot of people have
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of experiences in there. I'm not saying everyone
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: has an experience, but a lot of people do.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Hmmm. I don't know. I'm just sort of I'm one
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: of those people that kind of think that you have
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: to be open to those kind of experiences as well
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: to experience them. Do you get what I'm saying.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I I do, but I disagree at a certain point.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I just feel I feel as you
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: can close your you can kind of close your mind
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: off from it in a way. And then I don't know.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: For me personally, I think that's almost I'm gonna how
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this is gonna sound rude, but I
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: almost think it's ignorance at that point. It's like, Okay,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you know what, I felt, a cold draft, and you're
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: just like turning your mind off to it and say, Okay,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: that cold draft wasn't paranormal. It was just a fucking
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: cold draft came in through a window or something something.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but at.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: A certain point you can't be ignorant to something that
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: can't be explained.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I guess I just feel some people are more susceptible
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to it than others, like say, kids or whatever, animals
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, for sure, because maybe you can see things
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: other people can't, or you can feel things or have
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: you're an EmPATH and have emotions that other people can,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: you can connect to things. So one hunter percent. But
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I do think if a fucking painting goes flying across
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: the room, I think everyone can see it. Yes, yes,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: And if you are ignorant to those situations, And again,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I don't mean ignorant in a bad way. I just
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: been like, you're not looking for it, and you're explaining
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: things away. But if you are ignorant to that situation
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: and that fucking happens, you can only be so ignorant.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you can only explain so many things exactly. So,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of the way it is though people.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: You know, weird things happen and or weird feelings, and
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you just make excuses for them, right, I mean, I
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: think you're you're protecting yourself too in a way. But yeah,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: you can only only explain certain things. So and you
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: being pulled out of bed is I don't think is
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: anything i'd a want to experience or be be able
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: to explain.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: No kidding, Like, how how could you explain that to yourself?
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Be thrown across the room?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you would ever have a good
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: sleep again. Really, Yeah, that's kind of of uh traumatizing, Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: No kidding, there's like PTSD after that.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: So the fact that that happened to John and he
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: just you know, stayed in there, I'm curious how many
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: times it did happen. And he seems like he's kind
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: of like a little bit of a badass that.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: He's just like, you know what I'm wondering. I'm wondering
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: if it's almost like some strange form of like Stockholm syndrome.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: That he had, you know, Oh, okay.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Like he was almost like a captor of this place,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: and he just almost became reliant on these experiences in
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: this place. And you know, if he left it and
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: he didn't hear footsteps in the night, maybe he wouldn't
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: have been able to sleep good because it just didn't
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: feel right, you know.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, huh.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Maybe he needed the place.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's like, that's kind of sad. I don't I
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: don't think that's sad, but sad, but also kind of.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: We all need something.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. Yeah, Well, I mean hopefully he enjoyed his
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: time there. I'm sure he had met many good times.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he did. And I do know he knew
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: it was dark, let's just say that. But I do
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: know he also loved that fucking place. But he did
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of good work to that place. He built
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: a lot around it. Story. So I just want to
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: give a little cheers to John for everything he did
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: to the ancient ram So cheers to him. May he
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: rest in peace, and may the Ancient ram stand for
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: another thousand years.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: No kidding. Yeah, yeah, and maybe we get those building
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: plans because I don't feel like shit lasts as long
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: as it does it did back in the day.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: No, not even close, they close.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Just everything everything.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: So that's day two of Halloween Week. You like that one?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah? That was good. Yeah, that was really good.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm glad you liked it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I do like ghost stories and stuff. I
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: used to read a lot of a lot of them
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid, don't really so much now,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: but I find them fascinating. Oh.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I love going down dark YouTube rabbit holes and hearing
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: like ghost stories. And like I said, I watched a
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff on the Ancient Ramen before on documentaries,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: and yeah it's oh I love these stories.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like alien UFO stuff. I'm not super into,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: but I am into you know, ghosts and hauntings and stuff.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: So fair enough, fair enough.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Well, we've got a lot of cool stuff coming up
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: for the remainder of the week, So we will see
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: you guys tomorrow with another awesome episode, and until
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Then, stay wicked.