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279: Welcome to Plathville - The Incident (S7 E10) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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  Speaker 1: here to talk. Welcome to Platfill. We're gonna be recapping
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  Speaker 1: episode ten, and I'm excited to get into it because
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  Speaker 1: it was really damn good. Now, before we get into
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  Speaker 1: Now, before we get into this recab, Beatrice, I just
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  Speaker 1: have to ask you, what was your takeaway after this episode?
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  Speaker 2: God I don't really even know what my takeaway is.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of awkward after the wedding
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  Speaker 2: when Ethan drove off Lydia and Zach. When Lydia and
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  Speaker 2: Zack and their talking head, Lydia was like, now it's
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  Speaker 2: time for us to solidify our marriage, and Zach was
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  Speaker 2: just like super turbo awkward and not saying anything, and
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  Speaker 2: Lyddy's like, yeah, however, that means for us, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to solidify our marriage and it'll be great.
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  Speaker 1: Keeping in mind that that interstitial that talking head was
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  Speaker 1: filmed probably months after they actually got married, and so
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  Speaker 1: because he's uncomfortable, it made me question did anything happen
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  Speaker 1: on the wedding night. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: With Zach. Normally, when you're like a newlywed, you're kind
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  Speaker 2: of all over each other and you're kissing and you're
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  Speaker 2: fucking a lot, presumably, but I don't know. It just
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  Speaker 2: felt kind of awkward. And maybe he's awkward because it's
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  Speaker 2: on the camera. I don't know, but I'm side eyeing
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  Speaker 2: him alone.
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  Speaker 1: There was an awkward vibration. Yeah. My takeaway, hmm, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready for Veronica to be off my TELEVISIONE girl.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're all exhausted. I think she's thinking to
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  Speaker 1: herself as she's filming these various scenes that she's really
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  Speaker 1: doing something. She's really eaten, as the kids say. But
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  Speaker 1: it's coming off so toxic, so abusive. It's just really,
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  Speaker 1: really really bad. And I think for her benefit, but
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  Speaker 1: mostly for my benefit, I just need her gone. I
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  Speaker 1: need you to move it along, get back to Boca
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  Speaker 1: Raton or whatever, and just SDFU. I'm sick of you, big.
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  Speaker 2: Sure we're in the trash.
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  Speaker 1: Sure she belongs for real, not in this dumpster. There's
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  Speaker 1: some other dumpster. We don't want her.
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  Speaker 2: Our dumpster is too classy for it.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel bad because I don't want to bully
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  Speaker 1: a young lady, and I'm not trying to bully a
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  Speaker 1: young but she really has shown her ass. And it's
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  Speaker 1: not like the plaths are great, No, they're not like
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  Speaker 1: paragons of morality or anything. But her obnoxiousness just rises
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  Speaker 1: to a whole other level. And I'm sick of it.
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  Speaker 1: To have another takeaway, okay, and I will offer it
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  Speaker 1: all right. I love this season. Oh my god, I
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  Speaker 1: love this season. And I'm reading on Reddit all the
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  Speaker 1: reddit urs are like I just can't watch this anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I can't be a party to what they're doing to
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  Speaker 1: Zach or I can't be a party to what's happening
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  Speaker 1: with Micah and Veronica.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what do you mean they are all bitter?
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  Speaker 1: This is reality TV? Aren't you the same people that
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  Speaker 1: probably watched Flavor of Love? Yeah, and that white girl
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  Speaker 1: spitting on Tiffany New York, Like, weren't we all watching
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  Speaker 1: America's next Top toxic model and loving it? Like this
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  Speaker 1: is toxic? Yeah, and there are some deep problems in
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  Speaker 1: this family, But I am bought up, up up. I'm
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  Speaker 1: loving it. I love it me too, and I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to grade it. Yeah, And I'm so glad we
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  Speaker 1: covered it because we almost didn't because last year, what
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  Speaker 1: with Olivia and her vagina chest boyfriend, I was pacing
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  Speaker 1: out me too over it.
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  Speaker 2: But this was so great talk about a comeback. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and it feels genuine, it does. It feels real, Like
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  Speaker 2: this is actual, real shit going on. Yeah, it's not stage.
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  Speaker 2: It's not manufactured drama like we see on Sister Wives,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's legit. It's toxic, but it's great.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like loving the introduction of the younger kids. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm into the Isaac storyline. Of course, we don't agree
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  Speaker 1: with what Isaac is doing. He's a violent young man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm concerned about him, but like, I want to follow
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  Speaker 1: his story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love Amber and Mercy and Cassie, like, I love
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  Speaker 1: all of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I've just really been enjoying it. And I know
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna piss off a lot of people and you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna cry internal misogyny, but I'm just in a dumpster, bitch.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I like, and I'm enjoying the f
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  Speaker 1: out of it.
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  Speaker 2: I think all the people who are crying about internalized
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  Speaker 2: misogyny and all that, they're just bitter because we were
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  Speaker 2: right about Veronica the whole entire time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I mean, fake psychic raccoons.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you were right, especially you called it last season.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't want to say anything, but you
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  Speaker 1: damn right.
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  Speaker 2: You were right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So, without further ado, let's get into this week's
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  Speaker 1: recap of Welcome to Plaithfill season seven, episode eleven ten ten,
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  Speaker 1: Episode ten entitled The Incident.
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  Speaker 2: So we start off the episode. Shit's already tense because
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  Speaker 2: we're still at the wedding but it's after the cringey
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  Speaker 2: ceremony and everything. We're at the reception park where everyone's
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  Speaker 2: sitting down at their tables. They have all their little
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  Speaker 2: names assigned everywhere with little shells and stuff, and we
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  Speaker 2: already start off with drama because Ethan sees where he's assigned,
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  Speaker 2: and he's assigned at Veronica's table, which I'm just like,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, bad idea to begin with, why didn't
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  Speaker 2: we put Veronica with like some other rando strangers.
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  Speaker 1: We had to put her with in the barn.
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  Speaker 2: Then I just don't understand. She should have been at.
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  Speaker 1: The garage, in the red roof in ten miles away.
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  Speaker 2: But Ethan goes to his table, sees Veronica's name clam
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, picks it up, tosses it like a dramatic
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  Speaker 2: little topper.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a baby, a bitch baby, Ethen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sick of him this season. Honestly, his behavior
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  Speaker 2: has been so immature and so annoying every single turn.
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  Speaker 2: I can't even give him a little bit of grace,
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  Speaker 2: just so over it. So he throws her name tag
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  Speaker 2: and we have his little interstitial in his talking head
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  Speaker 2: where he says he quote despises her with the fury
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  Speaker 2: of a thousand suns. I'm like, okay, dramatic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gotta have some.
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  Speaker 2: Leo or something in him. I know he's a Taurus,
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  Speaker 2: but he's got to have like a Leo moon or something.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, you're so dramatic, you're so extra. Just
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  Speaker 2: calm down. But no, he can't. And Kim even tells him, like,
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  Speaker 2: you could just move the shells around, you could put
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  Speaker 2: her name on another table with Micah's and just signed.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, okay, I guess that's a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: And he goes and finds her little shell or something.
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  Speaker 2: He tries to move it. But it doesn't even fucking
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  Speaker 2: matter because you know where Veronica and Mike are at.
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  Speaker 2: They're in the house eating pizza, sitting out the entire reception.
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  Speaker 1: So where are Micah's khannies, where's his balls at? Like
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  Speaker 1: you okay with sitting this one out on the day
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  Speaker 1: of your sister's wedding at the reception where she's expecting
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  Speaker 1: you to be. She's sitting at her bride's table, she's
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  Speaker 1: looking out to the table where her family's supposed to be,
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  Speaker 1: and you're not there. There's absolutely no excuse for that.
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  Speaker 1: And I get it that Micah appears to be an
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  Speaker 1: abused person and so he's probably stuck in a cycle
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  Speaker 1: of terribleness, but I just like, I feel really bad
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  Speaker 1: for Lydia. Yeah, because Micah's just in the house or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: eating pizza with Veronica. And Veronica, what kind of an
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  Speaker 1: unconscionable terrorist do you have to be serious to be
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  Speaker 1: okay with pulling Micah away from his family and in specific,
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  Speaker 1: his sister on the day of her nuptuwels so he
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  Speaker 1: eats pizza with you, Otherwise if he doesn't, if he
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  Speaker 1: actually joins his family, you're gonna take it out on
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  Speaker 1: him and be further abusive. Like it's just so sick.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't even care though, because like he didn't even
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  Speaker 2: want to go to the wedding because Tegan and her
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  Speaker 2: of was gonna be there, and so she didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to be there. But she wouldn't have even allowed Micah
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  Speaker 2: to go by himself to his sister's wedding because she
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  Speaker 2: doesn't trust him to be around these women. So she's controlling.
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  Speaker 2: She's such a piece of shit. And I was mad
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  Speaker 2: at Micah too, because Micah is expressing that he's pissed
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  Speaker 2: off by this, and he's upset that Veronica is even
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  Speaker 2: making him sit it out and that she doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to try and be cordial for Lydia's day. But then
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  Speaker 2: you just cave in to her shitty behavior and you
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  Speaker 2: go and eat pizza with her in the house, and
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  Speaker 2: poor Lydia is sad on her wedding day because it's
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  Speaker 2: the table that's right in front of hers where her
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  Speaker 2: family is supposed to be at, and it's half full
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  Speaker 2: because Micah's in there with Veronica.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just likeugh, And I was just wondering at this
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  Speaker 1: point about why Micah is doing this, Like, yes, Micah
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  Speaker 1: might be like so beaten down emotionally that like he
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't know what else to do. But I'm also
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  Speaker 1: thinking ba based on Veronica's behavior on social media, especially
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  Speaker 1: on Reddit, and all the things she was saying about Micah,
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  Speaker 1: like that he was sex trafficked, like he had an STD,
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  Speaker 1: like she had a miscarriage and he didn't care about it,
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  Speaker 1: like he cheated on her, Like she was dropping these
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  Speaker 1: bombs before the season even aired. I'm wondering if some
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  Speaker 1: of what he's doing right now, this maneuvering is because
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't want her to tell all of these secrets,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's worried that she's going to share these very
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  Speaker 1: sensitive things that she has no right to share, and
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  Speaker 1: so he's trying to be conciliatory with her. Well it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to work, no, because she's going to do
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  Speaker 1: it anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You can't negotiate with a terrorist.
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  Speaker 2: No, you really can't, especially Micah, poor sweet Pisces, who
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  Speaker 2: just wants to keep the peace. And he's like emotional
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  Speaker 2: feeling all of this, but he just feels obligated to
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  Speaker 2: try and appease Veronica. But she can't be a piece.
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  Speaker 2: She hates everything, never enough. Yes. I Meanwhile, while they're
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  Speaker 2: eating pizza in the house away from everyone, we have
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  Speaker 2: the reception that starts, and before we get to the
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  Speaker 2: speeches and the toasts and stuff, we have Ethan's bitch
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  Speaker 2: ass going over to Mariah at the wedding party table
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  Speaker 2: at the front, and he's like, under no circumstance are
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  Speaker 2: you to make up or we kindle anything with Veronica
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  Speaker 2: because she's an evil pitch and she's just using you.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, Ethan, you could tone down the
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  Speaker 2: aggression a little bit, like I understand, you're like, he
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  Speaker 2: probably saw Mariah talking with Veronica over on the pasture,
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  Speaker 2: and you want Mariah not to get manipulated by Veronica.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. But also wrong place, wrong time, and
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  Speaker 2: you're also so aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you think you are?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my brother would never presume to tell me
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  Speaker 1: who I can talk to and who I can hang around.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's trying to assert him self as kind of
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  Speaker 1: a patriarch in the absence of Barry stepping up as
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  Speaker 1: kind of a potent father figure. Yeah, Like, I think
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  Speaker 1: Ethan knows that Barry's not going to do that. He's
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  Speaker 1: just going to be all about his riz and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think this is some misbigotten approximation of
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  Speaker 1: what Ethan thinks a father should do. But it's so
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  Speaker 1: distorted because nobody trained these kids, right, They got no
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  Speaker 1: home training at all.
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  Speaker 2: I just like, Ethan shut the fuck up. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he was like drinking at this point,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe that's why he probably was, because I'm just like,
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  Speaker 2: what is this the stark contrast? And I know I've
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  Speaker 2: said this before, but from season seven Ethan to season one,
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  Speaker 2: Ethan is crazy. Oh my gosh, Yes, he's so aggressive
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  Speaker 2: and so out of pocket, and he thinks he's doing
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  Speaker 2: everything right and he's just like not carrying and he's
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  Speaker 2: being this like masculine man. But I'm like, dude, you
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  Speaker 2: kind of suck. I'm really over him. And then we
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  Speaker 2: have Isaac.
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  Speaker 1: Who's you ever under him? Well, I mean not like that,
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  Speaker 1: Like were you ever into him? Like did we You
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: were holding out hope? I was trying because he was
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: so emotionally stunted as a result of the way that
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: his parents raised him. You were holding out hope that
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  Speaker 1: he would end up being kind of a decent person. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, like that's probably never gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: No, unless he gets actual therapy and tries to tone
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  Speaker 2: down his anger. But he's just become such a bitter,
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  Speaker 2: calloused man, and I'm not into it. I think he
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  Speaker 2: thinks like this is his new identity and it's like
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  Speaker 2: cool or whatever, but it's not. It's lame.
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  Speaker 1: You know what is also not cool his jeans, Like
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: why do we have to have high waisted mom jeans?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know on a twenty five year old young man.
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  Speaker 2: They're very tight. They're truly terrible. Yeah, take a page
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  Speaker 2: out of Isaac's book. I know we're some wranglers, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: or MICA's book.
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  Speaker 1: Shit, you look stupid. Go do one hundred pushups? You
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  Speaker 1: do wee?
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  Speaker 2: But he can't even do push ups?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: God? But speaking of Isaac, Isaac is kind of what's
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  Speaker 2: the word, not fuming, but he's kind of boiling a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, Like he's pissed off. He's annoyed, primarily
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  Speaker 2: with Veronica and her behavior. And he says something like
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  Speaker 2: if she just acted cool, like nobody would have a problem.
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  Speaker 2: And I do believe him, Like, if Veronica just could
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  Speaker 2: be cordial with everybody and not be two faced, and
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  Speaker 2: not be stuck up and not pull Micah away from
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  Speaker 2: this family event, people wouldn't have as much of an
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  Speaker 2: issue with her. But everyone is mad at her, especially Isaac.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's over her behavior.
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  Speaker 1: Well by this time, though, well the producers are leading
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  Speaker 1: us to believe that Veronica called Kaylee Kaylee, Cayln Kaylin
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  Speaker 1: a slut, And maybe it was because she mistook Kaylin fritiguan,
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  Speaker 1: but like it's inappropriate to call either of those girls
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  Speaker 1: a slut, Like this is twenty twenty five. What are
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  Speaker 1: we doing? Women should be supporting women I don't understand, yep.
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  Speaker 1: But so like he's pissed off, and then you have
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  Speaker 1: this cowed Micah just doing all of Veronica's bidding. So
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  Speaker 1: it's starting to eat away at Isaac, who's in love
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  Speaker 1: with his little girlfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been dating for four months. They're really throlly.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's so in love with her. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's been like five months, so he's like, it's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit longer than Lydia and Zach, right, so
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  Speaker 2: they're far more valid. Yeah, of course because they're not
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  Speaker 2: getting married right away. But he's super in love with Caitlin,
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  Speaker 2: and I agree with him being protective of her in
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  Speaker 2: that regard of not liking the fact that Veronica is
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  Speaker 2: calling her a slut, thinking that she is Teagan when
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: it's never okay to even do that in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: So I understand that Isaac's pissed off, and he's pissed
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  Speaker 2: off at his brother for not doing anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: But when we get to the actual incident and how
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  Speaker 2: it all went down, it's pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But he's also pissed off, perhaps because his entire family
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  Speaker 1: has fallen apart. Yeah, and that has a lot to
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  Speaker 1: do with Kim and obviously Barry, but maybe he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: feel comfortable to blame his parents in that way, so
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: he's placing blame on people like Olivia. Yeah, and also
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  Speaker 1: people like Veronica who are entering the family to kind
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: of cause this further damage. And so he's really protective
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: of something that was already broken by his own parents,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: and he really doesn't know how to act, which is
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: what probably leads to his altercation with Micah.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I think you're right about that. And then we have
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: some toasts from members of the family. We start with Amber,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: who gives a pretty sweet toast to Lydia and just
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: thanks her for everything that she has done adorable for
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: her and the family. And Lydia is like, I'm really
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: grateful that my effort was recognized by my younger siblings
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: because I really did step up after my cheating ass
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: oh assma subtext like, I mean really, that's what she's
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: kind of saying, Like.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: For a couple two three years, yep, Lydia was the
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: mother in the household, and she raised those girls and.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Had to homeschool them and everything.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Well, Kim was.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Drinking and fucking Kim Palmer.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: They're racist, Kim Palmer.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, so I was glad to have sorry all legend,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: but like, I'm glad that Amber recognized Lydia's efforts there
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and how much she was there for the younger siblings,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: and Lydia got some kind of gratitude because you know,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: kim maate thanking Lydia for being the mother. And I
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: don't even know if Barry is really because I don't
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: know if Barry is conscious to that, because Barry's out
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: here working and going to the gym and stuff and
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: getting jacked. And then speaking of Barry, we have Barry's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: long winded rambling toast, which is primarily like faith based
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and god based. He like reads some scriptures and stuff.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: He gets kind of emotional, but he's like trying to
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: in his own boop way offer his testimony. But you
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: can tell, like as the camera pans to everybody else
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: in the wedding, everyone's like, please shut the fuck, you're
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: talking way too long.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Wrap it up.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And then we have the first dance with Zach and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Lydia that they've rehearsed, and then we have the father
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: daughter dance with Barry and Lydia, which I thought was
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: really very sweet because they both are really emotional. They're
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: like dancing to a song that's all about you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: no one can love me as much as my father,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: something like that. But it was really sweet. It was
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: sweet to see Barry get emotional and even talks about
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: this in his own robotic way. He's like, I finally
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: gave myself a permission slip to cry. Like dude, I guess,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: like learn to be a human though with free flowing emotions,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: instead of giving yourself permission in a particular moment to cry.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: And then the wedding is over. We have everybody lighting fireworks,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: and you have some people like in the house chatting
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: with each other before they start doing these activities, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: you have I think it's Micah, Veronica, Isaac and Caylin,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and they're talking to some other guests. And Isaac and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Caylan are not talking to Veronica or Micah really at all.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Veronica's giving them the cold shoulder as well being a
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: total mean girl, and Isaac says he's pushed past his
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: limit with Veronica. He's fucking tired of this bitch. He's
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: getting really fed up. I wonder if he's been drinking.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: He has been. I mean, I think they're all drinking.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: But he's underage, right, Yeah, but Lydia.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Was drinking under age according to Veronica.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: She's twenty one though, well now she is.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: But like before that, I think Veronica was saying she
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: was like drinking Margarita's. And I don't know, I don't know.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we can believe Veronica, But I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: think this is a family that drinks.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too, And I mean, if you're
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: in the country, Like, I don't know, I grew up
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: totally drinking underage. I was drinking at like thirteen, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: my parents allowed it, like yeah, oh yeah, They're like,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: as long as you're drinking at home, it's fine, We're
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: the cool parents. I was getting drunk as fuck off
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: of Mike's hard lemonades at fourteen whatever, not saying it's right.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: But these kids are like nineteen, so like they're a
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: little bit older. I wonder if it's just their culture,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: their family life. Being out in the South, Well, they used.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: To follow Kim when she snuck out to the barn
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to eat her peanut m and m's and drink her tequila,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: and so they realized that they could maybe do that too,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and so they started very early drinking tequila and beer
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and vodka, and now they're drunks. Everybody's a just alcoholic yikes.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: And apparently some of them get angry when they're drunk
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and leads to physical altercations. But before it gets to that,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Veronica's bitch ass leaves to go to her hotel.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: But not before she classifies the wedding activities as hillbilly activities.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: That's like, she's not going to go out and do
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the sparklers and watch Lydia and Zach drive away in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the old model Tea or whatever it was, and like
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: just participate in what was actually a very lovely reception. Yeah,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: like the whole thing was very lovely. She's not going
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to participate in that, and so she's going to disparage it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Like there were so many different digs that she made
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: against this family for being stupid and backwards, and it
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: was really really fucked up.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I don't like that. And Olivia did this a little
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: bit too, but not to this way more covert. Veronica's
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: straight up just calling them hillbillies. And I'm like, there's
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: literally nothing hillbilly ish about this. And I came from
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: white trash, like I grew up in a trailer. I
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: grew up next to a meth lad that exploded, Like
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, white trash okay, and like we were total
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Hillbillies and I'm proud of it. Like my uncle played
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the banjo, like we were total white trash okay. Veronica
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: calling the Plaths Hillbillies for lighting sparklers. I'm my girl, bye.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Get fuck get fuck you fuck off already, seriously, Viper.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: She ends up fucking off to her hotel three towns away.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Got still here with his family, So I guess it's okay.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I guess it's okay for my kind to be on
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: his own now with the family for the wedding festivities,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: because you were there enough to watch while Teagan was there.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: No, it's because the cameras are down, honey.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I think the cameras are down, and so Vernica's like, well,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I don't have to be here. The only reason she's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: here is because of the camera. She's a clout goblin.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: It must be because I'm just like, like.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Why would you be here? Why would you be doing
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: all of this?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: She's performing, it's theatrical.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So she leaves and then Lydia and Zach get
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: driven off in Ethan's model a car, old man car,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: and it's really sweet, and Ethan makes a comment about
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: how as they're driving off, all he can hear is
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: like this weird chattering and he's like, what does that sound? Oh,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: it's their teeth and does that mean that they're like
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: making out?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're kissing. So it's Zach's teeth and Lydia's teeth
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and they don't know really how to kiss, and so
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: they're all fangs.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Them And this is where you get the weird scene
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: of Lydia and Zach and they're talking where she's like, yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: this is our time now to solidify our marriage. However
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: that looks like to us, but we're gonna keep it private, right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be great. And I'm just like, did
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you guys even have sad?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know. My raccoon brain like goes to
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: an idea of that maybe they got to the hotel
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and Zach's like, you know what, like, let's
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: just cuddle tonight. That's what I'm thinking. You know, I'm
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: gonna kiss your forehead and I love you and we're
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: gonna get to the sex part, don't you worry. Yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: it's absolutely gonna happen, but like it's been a long day.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And then the next day happened and it's like, oh,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: we got so much stuff to do though, we gotta
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: go to Paris and all that, so like, don't worry.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: By the time we get to Paris, we're absolutely to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: be fucking And then they get to Paris and it's like,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: what about the Louver though, We're gonna go to the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Louver and the Mona Lisa and like there's so many
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: things to see, like we'll get to the fucking later. Yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: that's what it was giving to me.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: That was what was giving it to me too, And
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just worry however that looks for me. I'm just worried,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: and like Lydia, you know, it is coming from this
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: like biblical perspective of like trying to respect her man
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and respect her husband. So she doesn't want to say
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: anything disparaging because Liddy's also very sweet, kind, loving gal,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: and she doesn't want to shit on her husband because
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: her her family is doing that for her. But I'm
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: just wondering. I'm just wondering what it looks like in
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: their bedroom. I don't know.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: It is none of your business. I guess, how dare you?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: But I want it to be my business. And then
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: it's the day after the wedding and we have Veronica
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: in her hotel room, looking all disheveled, and she says
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: that she was woken up to a text at one am.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: She didn't know where Micah was at. She checked his location.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: He's at the hospital, and apparently Micah texted her saying
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: that Isaac beat his ass because of her. And she's like,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I can't believe they're blaming me for this, but of.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Course they are, because this is what they do. They
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: deflect and they blame, and of course I'm going to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: be the one. They're going to blame it on.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Puh leaves. And we have Kim on the phone with
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Veronica saying that his face, Micah's face looked like a
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: smashed apple, like underneath his skin, like there was so
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: much blood. Micah texted her saying like, I've never seen
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: so much blood in my life. And we see some photos.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: His nose is definitely cut up. Yeah, he definitely had
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to have stitches. But you know, I'm just remembering when
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Veronica was on the reddits before the season aired, and
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: she said his nose was like completely ripped off, Yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and like it wasn't It was cut up for sure,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: like he definitely was injured and everything, but.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: It was not like detached from his face, which is
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: kind of what you were alluding to.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: She made it seem like such a big deal, and
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: it still is a big deal, Like I don't want
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to negate for sure, fight or anything, but nobody.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Exaggerates and she lies and she embellishes. This is what
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: she's doing, Yes, And.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't like that. And so Micah gets home from
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the hospital. I guess he's at the house with the
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: rest of the family. Veronica arrived at this house with everyone,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and she makes a comment about how they didn't really
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: give a shit about Micah because he was like on
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: a cot next to the stairs, and there was blood
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: everywhere in the house. And she's like taking photos of
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the blood on these like disposable cameras that I guess
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Lydia had for the reception. Yeah, so she wants to
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: make sure that Lydia remembers this terrible moment that she
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: wasn't even there for because she was too busy cuddling
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: set in her hotel room or whatever. But she's taking
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: photos and she's feigning concern, like she's acting like she
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: cares about Micah and his injury. But I don't think
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: she cares.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And I think Micah knows it because he hardly turns
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: over when he sees her, Like, in fact, he turns
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: away from her. He doesn't answer her, he's not talking
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: to her, so clearly he's in his feelings because he
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: got his whole ass rocked, yeah by Isaac on behalf
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of Veronica be because she's been treating people so poorly, Yes, pissed.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: And the whole vibe in this house vibe check is tense.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Dude, they hate her. They all hate her, They all
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: hate her. I was like, Kim, how are you being
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: so nice to her? Like she was really great, Like
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: she greeted Veronica, she brought her in. She didn't tell
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: her obviously that the meeting that they were going to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: have was about her and an intervention because she's such
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a toxic waste of a person. But like she was
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: being really polite, really kind. I'm like, okay, well, bay, Kim.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And she was the only one, yeah, because Ethan is
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: also super pissed off. At Veronica. I mean, I think
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: he says something like I am completely dumb with her,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: like I'm not giving her any grace whatsoever. He like
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: walks into the kitchen where Veronica's sitting and Veronica's being cold.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: She doesn't even greet him. Ethan just walks straight past her,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't say a word to her, and he says, this
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: is a response to a situation that happened with him
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and Veronica where he walked past her, she didn't greet her,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: greet him whatsoever, and he like, why didn't you even
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: say hi to me? And Veronica says something really mean
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to him, and I think they both exchanged like fuck
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: you to each other. She says fuck off, he says
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: fuck you well.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: And we also see Isaac walk into the room with
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Veronica sitting there, and he kind of just stands there
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: between Kim and Veronica, and the look in his face
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: is really interesting, Like I think he hates Veronica. Yeah, sure,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: for all of the reasons that we have discussed, but
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I also think he's like so pained by what he
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: has done to his brother, Like he feels so guilty
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and he's almost as he's almost like, well, let me
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: at least stand by Veronica so that maybe like I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: can try and accept her because I did this to
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: my brother. Like it's so like the whole dynamic is
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: crazy in this house right now.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: It is so fucking tense, and like Veronica is weirdly oblivious,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: like she doesn't think that they're all gonna confront her.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: She thinks that they're gonna talk about the incident. And
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: she even says, like, I feel like I'm in a
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: house of Premie prime evil barbarians. But she says prime
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: eval like she pronounces it wrong. But she's like calling
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: them barbarians. And I think she's alluding to Isaac and
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Micah's brawl and everything, but she's talking about all of them.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, she's.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Also calling them stupid, yes, calling them cave people definitely, yeah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: which are they the brightest people in the world? Obviously not,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But like, but when you call the family that that's true,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Like when you call the family that you're calling Amber,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that you're calling Mercy, that you're calling Cassie, that you're
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: calling the babies, that the babies are gonna watch this,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Shut your mouth.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yep, And then we all sit down in the living
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: room and it's totally like an intervention setting. But again,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Veronica is completely oblivious to it, and she thinks, great.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: It was pretty great.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: She's like, I think Kim says, let's all just talk
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: like adults. We're gonna have a discussion about what happened,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and Veronica's like, yeah, Isaac could have totally killed Michael,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: and I think people a few people protest about this
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and they're like, no, I mean, he wasn't gonna kill me. Like, yeah,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: he feels bad about it enough, though. I think Micah
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: jumps to Isaac's defense and he's like, look, Isaac feels
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: bad about it. And you can see Isaac's face, like
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: he looks so guilty, and he looks kind of like
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: a child. He totally is, but he looks like younger
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: version of him, where he's just like sad and his
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: face is red. He knows what he did was wrong,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and it seems like in this moment, Isaac's already apologized
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: to Micah and already feels bad enough that Micah had
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: to get fucking stitches and his nose is all cut up.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: But Micah started it. Micah hit him first, yep, and
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Micah sometimes you're gonna fuck around and then you're gonna
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: find out.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And he does talk about it too. Yeah, he's like,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: you know, this happened because I threw some punches and
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: things were tense already, and then Isaac got me with
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: his elbow, and you know what, I suffered the consquences,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: but you know it's fine. Like he talks about it
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: in like a brother sense of just like, well, we
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: fought and I got clipped, and it is what it is.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: And Isaac already feels bad about it, but he knows
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and everyone else knows that the reason why it started
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: was because of Veronica, and so that's why we're at
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: this intervention. And I think Ethan's the one that says,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Veronica thinks that this conversation is not about her, but
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: it is about her, and Veronica's still oblivious. And Ethan
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: says he's let shit go with Lydia and Zach, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I think he tells everybody this. He's like, I, you
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: know what, I'm letting it go. Lydia is married, now,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: that's her life. She's making the choices that she makes.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: But I've got real issues with you, Veronica, because you
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: will bitch.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: And Veronica says something like, well, I didn't make his
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: arms or his hands hit this person, like I'm not.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even here, And then we get her interstitial
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: where she's like, of course they're going to blame me.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even there. I was at the hotel three
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: times over, like refusing to acknowledge though, that her behavior
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: leading up to the fight is what actually caused the fight,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and that Micah was in fact defending her honor against
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: his brother. And so she's just such a total piece
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: of shit through this entire conversation, like the faces that
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: she's making and the affect in what she's speaking to people,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and she's like, well, yeah, I said that you were
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: a snake, because like you are a snake. I know.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: She's such a mean girl.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Get me my braass knuckles, Like, let me just skip
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: on in there and work that girl over, you know,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I want to.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I just want to take there for real. I mean,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Isaac even says something like, yeah, Veronica's technically right when
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: she says she didn't control our arms. Of course me
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: and Micah were fighting each other, but she's still not
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: taking accountability for how her behavior led to something like that,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: and He's like, it's so manipulative that she even says
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: something like that because she's skirting around her part in
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: all of this. And then we get Teagan, who's there.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Teagan and Kaylin are all there. Everyone's there.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: It's awesome, so good, oh god.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: And Tigan's like, show me my only fans, because this
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: is the issue here, is that you are spreading rumors
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: like the fact that I have an OnlyFans. Show me
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: my fucking OnlyFans then, because I don't have one. And
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: this is where Veronica's like, well I will, but I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: don't have my phone. Yeah, but we know it's in
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: her pocket, right, because later on she gets confronted by
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Kim because Kim's like, I've heard you're talking shit about
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: me too, and I've been nothing but nice to you.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I've been super accommodating, Like we've used to talk on
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: the phone regularly, we used to text all the time,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: like I have the receipts, I'll pull out my phone.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: We were talking a lot and then all of a sudden,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: you kind of drop me, and now I hear your
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: calling me a snake, and Veronica's like, yeah, I did
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: call you snake, all smug, right, just like girl, Yeah,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I was just wondering though, like if we can just
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: pop out of the scene and kind of go meta,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: like what is Veronica feeling and thinking in this moment,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: because she's not expecting this at all. She's obviously being
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: not ganged up upon, but like you've got this entire
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: room full of people that are looking right at her
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and they are blaming her. And I would say that
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: the blame is appropriate to be put on her, but
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: like she's not expecting it, so she's being very defensive
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: because she's feeling probably very attacked.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Well, and she knows she's wrong.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: And she knows she's wrong. Like I don't know. I'm
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: just wondering, like if she could have handled that a
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: little differently, and she kind of does with Kim ultimately,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and she's just like, well, yeah, you did do that,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and you and thank you for doing that. But Kim's
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm out, like why are you saying all
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: this about me? And I'm trying to be accommodating in
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: a good person to you, but like you're still saying
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: these things about me. But Veronica try in moments where
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: she feels it might be possible to like not necessarily
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: apologize outright, but like to try and make it okay.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: And then when she knows there's absolutely no moving somebody
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: like Ethan, she's just like, well, I don't care anyway.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Like she does have naked pictures. I mean I know
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I saw them. Maybe they deleted them off the internet,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: but I know I saw them.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Well, when she pulls out her phone to like try
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: and prove Kim wrong about something, everyone's like, oh, okay,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: so now you have your phone, so show me my
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: fucking OnlyFans, Like, show us where you saw this. And
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: she's like trying to find where she saw that Tea
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Gonna had the only fans, and then she pulls up
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: like fake ass.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Well, she's like here you do it, yes, Like here
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you do it. And they're like, no, you're the one
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Veronica who made the claim that she's got an onlyfan.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: So you pull up the thing you saw where you
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: saw the naked pictures, and you show us. And so
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: then Veronica pulls it back and she knows she's buzzed.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Bitch.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: In this moment, she knows she's caught, yep.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And then she finds like some fake article and she's like, well,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: this isn't what I saw, but it's pretty much true.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: So like, this is what it is, and everyone's like,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: that's a rumor article, Like it's not even true, So
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: what are you saying? And Veronica, I think in her
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: talking head or in the intervention I can't remember, says
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: something like, well, but I know what I saw and
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: people can delete things, so again, doubling down on this
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: lie that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: She's And I'm like, can we sue her?
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Can we sue her for defamation? But then if you
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: sue for defamation, that's like a really high standard to prove,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and then like you have to also prove damages like
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: you lost it. Like, but she should be sued for
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: saying things that are so reckless yep, and careless. But
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: but they're not going, No, they're not going because it
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: is the plath. So yeah, and also she's being proven
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: as a liar. Oh, totally showing her ass in this moment,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and it's obviously the fact.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: That she ain't hit, she ain't shit. She strikes me
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: as somebody that loves to lie. And then when she
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: gets caught in the lie, she keeps lying. Yeah, like
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: she can't just own up to the fact that, like, yeah,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I said something that I thought was in confidence to
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: my partner about a rumor article. I shouldn't have doubled
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: down on it, like I'm so sorry, Tegan, Like no,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Like she's still accusing Tiagan of having an OnlyFans when
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Teagan herself is like, I literally don't have one, Like yeah,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're seeing, And Veronica says something like, well,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: if it wasn't Teagan, it was somebody who has an
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: uncanny resemblance to her. So it's still very suspect, like
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: just so so housted.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, talk about internalized misogyny, oh for sure, Like
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: feeling so threatened by another beautiful woman that you have
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: to put them down in such a detestable way says
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: so much more about you than it does them.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for Tigan because she's obviously soft spoken,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you know, and she does have a child, and I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: don't know how she feels about only fans, Like I mean,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: if I was hot enough to have an OnlyFans and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: make a lot of money, hoodie, you know, I would
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: be doing just exactly that. But like maybe she feels
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: a certain kind of way about that, and maybe she
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't want that attached to her name because she's got
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: a child. And it's just like Veronica is so reckless
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: with the things that she's doing, and she's taking such glee, yeah,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and joy out of hurting these people in this way.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's because Veronica's insecure. I think she thinks that, like,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Tegan's probably prettier than her, and so she feels intimidated
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: by her, and so she wants to take Teagan down.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Same thing with Caylin. And like Ethan and Teagan seem
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: to be having an okay relationship at this point in time,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and Micah and Veronica are not having a good relationship
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: mainly because of her and her inability to trust Micah
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: because he's a cheating asshole. And so she's just intimidated
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: and insecure by all of this, and the way that
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: she copes with that is by lying and by being
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: mean and calling people names and doubling down in this
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: mean girl persona that she thinks is cool and well.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I think she thinks it's something like Olivia. Yes, I
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: think she thinks that in doing this, she's aligning herself
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: with Olivia yet, which makes me really wonder what she
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: felt when Olivia released a statement that she doesn't support
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: bullies and that she is not friends with Veronica. Because
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: even in this episode, Veronica says, I have spent hours
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: talking to Olivia. Yeah, I doubt that. I think it
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: was like the two conversations that we saw on film,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: it was probably ten minutes each or whatever. Olivia does
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: not know who it is that you are, and so
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: you're out here claiming her like that because you want
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to be affiliated with her, well.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Because she wants to have a similar experience that Olivia
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: had with the plat Filmily, because even when Kim is
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: calling her out for being mean to her, and I
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: believe Kim when Kim's like, I've been nothing but nice
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: to you, Like i haven't even had a problem with you.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know you were talking shit behind my back,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and now you're just being two faced, Like what the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: fuck is up with that? Veronica says some things to
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Kim like that were very similar to what Olivia said
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: about her relationship with Kim, which is Kim used Veronica
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: that they had a very transactional relationship, that she love
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: bombed her and all this stuff. I'm like, this is
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: stuff that Olivia said about Kim and I'm sorry, but
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: with Olivia's story it's way more believable because Kim and
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Olivia were like talking when Olivia was very young, yes,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: like fifteen sixteen, and she was dealing with her own
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: bullshit with her family, and Kim probably took advantage of
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Olivia in that way. You don't even have that history
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: with Kim Platt, Veronica, You are.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: No Olivia Veronica.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Oh. I think she really wanted to be like Olivia,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and that's why she keeps bringing her up because she
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: thinks that in her mind, all of her vitriol is
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: justified because she had a similar experience that Olivia did.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry you didn't.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And she did not, not at all. I think they've
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: been very nice to her. I think they've been really trying.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, we see Mariah try to have a conversation
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: with her and invite her back into the reception and
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: want to include her. Well, by the way, I thought
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it was so funny when Mariah walks into the room,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: see what's happening, and then she's just like the Kim
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Kardashian memes, She's just like back into the hedges or
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: is it a Homer Simpson on whatever. But like she's like,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: absolutely not. I love that. I'm not going to be
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a part.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Of this job up. That was really funny, it was great.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I love I would have been Mariah if I saw
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: that shit, I'd be like bye, oh, I don't want
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: to be about part of it. But when Veronica brings
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: up Olivia and says, I've been talking to her for
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: hours and you know, you guys are treating me just
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: like Olivia, this is where the whole family kind of
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: erupts because they're like, okay, well, now we know that
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: you're siding with someone who they all view as the enemy,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: the ops, And now we know why you're shitting all
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: over us because you're talking to somebody who already hates us.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: So that settles it. And I think this is where
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: we have like some interstitials from like Isaac and Micah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: And Isaac says something like I'm so tired of all
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: of these people like coming to our family and not
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: respecting our family culture, not respecting us as people, and
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: like thinking that our family is so evil, like we aren't,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: like we're decent people, and like, look that's to be debated,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: but this is coming from Isaac who's just tired of
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: people trying to break up his family.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I respect that I do too. That's valid.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's totally valid. And then Micah ends up
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: calling out Veronica after all of this and is like,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you were talking shit about literally everybody here, like you
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: have nothing nice to say about anybody, and that's a problem,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Like you need to be able to get along with
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: my family, like I care about my family. And this
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: is where Kim calls out Micah and is like, yeah,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: like I don't understand why you're tolerating all of this
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: and why you have been defending her up until this point,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: like it's kind of bullshit. And Micah says something like
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't want you guys to know like everything that
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: was going on. I was really trying to keep the peace.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: And I am sorry for not defending you guys for
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: deal like letting Veronica just kind of go on this rampage.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: And I felt really bad for Micah, honestly, so.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: As a mom in that moment, I'm like, Kim, what
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: are you doing? Like your son Micah is in a
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: very troubled relationship. There's probably a reason that he's not
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: defending you the way that you would like him to
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: defend you. And you've seen demonstrated for you actual behavior
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: from this woman that's like psychotic, Like you know, it's
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: extremely problematic, and there's a whole spectrum we can speculate
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: on as to like what she might be doing to
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: your son, So like in this moment, to be like
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: where'ship balls? Micah? Yeah, And I know I said that earlier. Yeah,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: but like as a if you're the mom, like, it's
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: not the thing I would necessarily say to kind of
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: shame him into taking up for his family, right. I
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: just I felt like she didn't handle that the right way.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: And I also felt like when Micah turned to Veronica
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and said, you know, yeah, you don't speak nice to
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: my family or whatever he said, like he faltered in
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: his words. He did a little bit like he was
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: not he was not grounded and strong and powerful in
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: what he was trying to say because he was scared,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and so like, I just I wished there was more
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: support for Micah in that moment, and he's just had
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: his ass literally beat down by his younger brother the
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: night before for being kind of weak on this issue.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to see more support for him, and
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I think in some ways, Ethan was trying to step
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: in and like contextualize what was going on and like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and try to support him, but it was not enough
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. Yeah, do you know what I mean?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I totally agree. Like you bring up a really good
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: point about Kim calling him out right after he got
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: his ass beaten by Isaac for this very same issue,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: like it's not the right like he got Yeah, like
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: he understands, And I think that was his wake up
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: call honestly, was getting his nose split open and realizing,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: like shit, like my girl friend is wreaking absolute havoc
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: in my family, and I can't keep playing both sides here,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Like I have to pick one way or the other.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna pick my family because they're right.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And she's a piece of she's a piece of She's evil,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: which truly awful.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I really think, like Ethan is the only one in
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: the family that's been kind of supportive with Micah and
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: trying to empathize with his struggle, because Ethan went through
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: something similar with Olivia, Like and I'm not trying to
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: equate the situations, They're totally different, and Olivia had some
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: valid issues with the family and some valid criticisms with
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the family, but Ethan can empathize with Micah in the
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: sense that they were both pitted in the middle between
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: their significant others and their family, and it's a really
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: difficult place to be in, especially for Micah, who's so
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: sensitive and like really just wants to keep the peace
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: and feels a lot of guilt for how he treated Veronica,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: and so then he feels indebted to her into defending
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: her terrible fucking behavior, but he can't do it anymore
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: now that his fucking nose is split open. Yeah, It's
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: just like this scene was crazy, having everybody call out Veronica.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: And she was so defiant and she continued to be
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: so ugly towards Teagan and Kaylee. Kaylen, I'm never gonna
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: remember that bookie, Like, she just continued to be like
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: such an asshole, yep, because I think she knew there
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: was no defending what she did, so she might as
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: well just go out in a blaze of Glory's gonna
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: keep being a bitch. It's just crazy to me. Yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: just like the world doesn't need more awful people, Yeah,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the world needs kindness, and just like, can we just
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: love one another? God, Veronica, Like you're going out of
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: your way to be absolutely awful to people, Like what
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: is that getting you? You seem miserable, Like it can't
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: make you happy. And I know you're acting gleeful about
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: it because maybe you were bullied as a child and
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: now you're you're getting your opportunity to take it out
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: and other people. But like, it can't actually make you happy,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: can't it. No, you're profoundly broken. Oh totally, You're not
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: suitable for any relationship. And I'm actually really sorry that
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Micah cheated on you. I'm really sorry that you had
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a miscarriage and that you had to go through that
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: while also dealing with Micah cheating on you. That sounds
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: traumatic and absolutely terrible. You should have dumped him at
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: that point. You should have walked away from that fool.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: At that point, you didn't. You stayed with it. But like,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: this isn't the answer. The answer isn't to turn around
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: then and start just indiscriminately abusing people and exposing like
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: kids like Amber, Yeah to this abuse. It's just absolutely
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: wrong headed and toxic. Shame on you, honestly, just shame
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: on you, Like, grow the fuck up.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, really, like you're just projecting all of this
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: shit onto these family members who are just trying to
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: be nice and trying to welcome you to the family
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: because maybe they felt bad for how they treated Olivia,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: so they were trying to make it up with you,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: and you wouldn't let them, And now you want to
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: shit all over them and say that you were treated
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: just as badly as Olivia when it's not the fucking case,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: like whatsoever, and you're co opting Olivia's like very real struggle,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Like no wonder Olivia came out and was like I
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: don't stand with bullies, Like good on her for doing that. Yes,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: and again I say I've said this all season, Like
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: there's a stark difference between these two because Olivia is
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: not on this campaign against the plast Like, yes, she's
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: come out kind of well, she's come out with some
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: like videos and stuff, because I mean, quite frankly, they've
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: been talking about her all season, so she's come out
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: with like, right, and so some things, you know, like
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: calling out Ethan in particular for his shitty fucking behavior
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: and his drunkenness. But she's not on this campaign on
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Reddit talking about all the all these stories and stuff
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: and accused the Plaths of committing a hate crime against
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Zach and like all this shit, Veronica is the only
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: one that's doing that right, And I wonder how she
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: feels now.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I do too. I don't know that she has the
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: emotional capacity to feel the breadth of what she has
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: done here, or like connect with how she looks with
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: other people, like how we are actually receiving her. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: think like her answer is to just pretend it's not happening. Yeah, well,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: life is happening. Veronica's happening to you right now. And
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: you chose to put yourself out in this way, and
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you chose to conduct yourself in this way, and so
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: this is who we think you are, Like is that
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: really who you are? And you know, I really felt
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Isaac when he said something like, you know, we had
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: to deal with Olivia and like the trauma of that
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: breaking up our family and we weren't able to talk
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: to each other, Like it was really hard, and then
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: like as soon as she's gone, now we get her,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: it's like exponentially worse times a million, and now we
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: have to deal with Veronica. Like I'm sick of it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: I don't I felt for I felt for him because
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: he he loves his family. And you know the thing
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: about kid they can come from terrible families, they can
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: come from abusive backgrounds, but specifically when they're children, they're
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: still trying to protect their family. Yeah, they still feel
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: such a sense of loyalty for their family. And I
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: can see that in Isaac and he hasn't reconciled like
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: the childhood that he's come up through, but like he
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: loves his family and that's okay. Yeah, let's protect that
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: for Isaac. It's okay for him to love his family. Veronica,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: why are you shitting on them so much and calling
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: them ahillbillies and barbarians? Like, what the fuck is wrong
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: with you?
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Seriously? I mean, if one thing the Plaths have right
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: is that they do all care about each other. And
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I've said this before, like no family is perfect, like
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: pretty much every family has some sort of dysfunction, some
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: way more than others, and some obviously are way more
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: abusive than others. But with the Plaths, I really think
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: that they all do care about each other. And even
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: though Kim is a cheating ass alcoholic, like, they still
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: care about their mom and Kim is still trying Yeah,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: to be cordial with and like still trying to be
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: there for her kids.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: She's like, there was Barry in this conversation for real,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Kim was there trying to wrangle all of her children
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: and their significant others. Kim was there trying to broke
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: her some kind of piece. Where the fuck was Barry
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: drinking kombucha? I guess, so like really not doing anything.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: He he was charging in the closet, in the prayer closet.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Seriously though, Like he was not present, and that's just
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: emblematic I think of how Barry has been probably their
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: whole life.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also interesting that Kim is trying to
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: step up in that way. Maybe she understands that she
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't showing up the right way as from all their lives,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: and so she's trying to do something different. And in
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: this way, I think we can give Kim a little
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: bit of congratulations and some grace.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree, And that's pretty much how we
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: ended the episode. The preview, it looks like we're finishing
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: up the Veronica intervention, so there's gonna be more Oh
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: God that happens, which I'm kind of looking forward to honestly,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: right and I think somebody says, like Veronica is the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: common denominator of all of these issues, like him. I
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: think it was Kim.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: And then we have Micah saying that he's kind of
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: at a crossroads. Obviously we know he chooses his family
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: and he dumbs Veronica and I can't wait for that.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: We also know that he and Ethan and maybe Isaac
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: drive down to Boca Raton to go to the house
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: which he shares with Veronica to try and get a
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: shit out, and she has like linked to some camera
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: footage of them standing outside of the house wanting to
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: get in to get his shit, and she's trying to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: frame it as they were breaking into her house.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, and that she was afraid for her life. Yeah,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: and she had to call the cops.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Get the fucked.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, so over it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Fuck yourself.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And then we have Lydia and Zach facetiming Kim and
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Ethan from Paris because I think that's where they took
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: their honeymoon. And Ethan makes this nasty joke to Zaz
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: and says, make sure you fill them cross saants with cream,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's your sister, you're talking about. Gross
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he was saying that as like a
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: little bit of a dig though, because he still thinks
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: that Zach is gay.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: What are you gay? What are you gay? Okay?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: And he's like, make sure you a cream, am my sister.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, I guess that's what we're doing these days.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: And Zach's like, will do got it? And then we
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: have Olivia sitting down for a talking hend. This is
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: like the first time we've seen her pretty much all season.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: So I feel like this is some production fuckery because
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: there's really no reason to have Olivia in a scene.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe if the idea is that we're getting
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: together to discuss the papers that Ethan bungled and allegedly
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: allegedly bungled and like, so now they're not actually divorced,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: and she wants him to sign the papers the right way,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: like or are we just making content between Ethan and
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Olivia so she can shoot him down. I don't know which.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I would love to see.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Also that I'm looking forward to it, because if you
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: remember episode one, Ethan was saying that they both didn't
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: file the paperwork correctly and so things had to be restarted.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: So he was like putting the onus, on both of them,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: because she wasn't returning his calls or texts or anything
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: like that, and she was off in Croatia or something
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: and not signing the papers. But now we have Olivia
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: saying it's all Ethan's fault. Yeah, and then we have
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: an ultimate meet up with Ethan and Olivia, and I
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: think this is where we saw in the mid season
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: trailer where Ethan was like, can you please stop with
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: your behavior and she was like no, Yeah. I think
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: that's where we're going.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: To see what is her behavior though I don't know
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: not doing anything. I mean, she talked to Veronica, that's
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: probably what it is. But she doesn't have to do
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: what you tell her to do, Ethan, and I had
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: to wonder, and I know we're going along, so I'm
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: going to wrap this up really quickly, but I had
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: to wonder, like what he's thinking now, because there have
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: been a few content creators, and not a lot of
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: people cover platform, but a few people do, and there
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: have been content creators who are like, this is the
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: best season ever, Like this is such a good fucking season,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Like we're getting into the nitty gritty, this is wonderful,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering what Olivia is thinking about that,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: because in my opinion, she perceived herself to be central,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: pivotal to the entire show, and now that she's gone,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: it's actually better than ever.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: I know, it's great.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: What do you think she's thinking?
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, And I'm wondering, like what her coin
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: situation is Becah, good girl. I mean, she's a talented photographer,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: but whatnot? But she travels a lot?
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Like are people paying her to travel to their wedding
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: venue and take the photos? I think I don't know.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I mean she would have to charge a lot to
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: cover her travel expenses to travel out for their photos.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: And I mean again, like she is a very talented photographer,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: so I think she's making good money. But like I
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: have a cousin who's also a very talented photographer, and
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: it's not like she makes bank. Yeah, I mean, it's
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: an organ so it's not like she's traveling to fucking
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Croatia to film or to you know, shoot engagement photos
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But still, like I'm just wondering, like,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: what are you doing about the TLC check?
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean the TLC check can't be a lot.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I think Veronica preseason was just like, I make more
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: in a month than the entire season. Yeah, of TLC
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: pain me, But I mean, yeah, she's a liar. Yeah,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't think it's so much the money
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: with Olivia as it is the fame. Yeah, and she
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: loves she loves a c A liberty. I mean yeah,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: so she's probably missing it. But I have to admit
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: when I saw her sawn her in in her beautiful dress,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, actually, it's kind of nice to
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: see you.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Really we need a little yeah, we need a little.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Bit of this vibration, I think. And I think Ethan
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: has been such a pig yeah, this entire season for
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: like no reason whatsoever. And it's because he's in a
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: reactive state, because if you like, I think it's going
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: to be interesting to have them both sit down and
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: talk to each other. So I'm looking forward to it, Beatri.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: I am too. I'm looking forward to the drama mainly. Yeah,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: not so much Olivia. I mean, granted, she looks so gorgeous.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: She's always beautiful.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Every time I see her, I'm like, bit, damn it, Yeah, pretty,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: how dare you? And I wonder if Ethan feels that way.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's why he's such a bitter.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Well, he walks in with his fucking wranglers up, yes,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: fucking nipples, dude, he's walking in and he's looking mad,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: right yeah, and then he sits down across from her.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: His face falls and he looks soft in the face,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: like that boy still has feelings for her. I gotta like,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: all my axes still pine for me. So like if
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I was sitting across the table right now from any
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: of my axes, they would be just like, oh, they
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: definitely you know, you know it, I know it. So
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I just feel like that's what Ethan was giving and
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I loved it. It's pretty great, go Olivia. Yeah, So
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: is there anything else that we need to say to
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: these beautiful raccoons before we get up on at it here?
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Beatrice, Well, if you love our podcast, please I beg
• 59:08
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• 59:10
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• 59:13
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• 59:15
  Speaker 2: very much.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: We will be back next week to conclude Welcome to
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Platform and to continue our journey with Sister Wives and
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Special Forces more of an edition. Until then, please do
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: not forget that we have nothing but love for you
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: And pease and night.