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Daredevil: Born Again Broke Our Hearts. Again. (Episode Three Reaction & Review) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 4: There we go, There we go, and we are here
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  Speaker 4: to talk about Daredevil Born Again Episode three, and it's
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  Speaker 4: a heavy one. For this is a heavy episode. That's
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  Speaker 4: we're here to talk about Daredevil Born Again Episode three,
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  Speaker 4: so let's get right into it. Shit fucked up faan
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  Speaker 4: like then, you know, like I need that, uh the
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  Speaker 4: meme of my man, not Walter White.
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  Speaker 1: U What's what's Walter White's boy? Jesse?
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  Speaker 4: I need to he can't get with like fam Like
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  Speaker 4: someone asked us in the YouTube comments and they said,
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  Speaker 4: if I haven't seen Daredevil Born Again, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if I haven't seen the first Dared Devil, can I
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  Speaker 4: enjoy this new Born Again series? And I said, Well,
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  Speaker 4: the showrunner says you can. And then that was before
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  Speaker 4: I seen episode three, and then after I watched episode three,
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to go back and tell them, well, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't fucking matter if you've seen the original, because
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  Speaker 4: this one's gonna break your heart even though you haven't
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  Speaker 4: seen them the beginning. From the beginning, you're gonna fall
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  Speaker 4: in love with the character, and then it's gonna break
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  Speaker 4: your fucking heart in episode three, like.
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  Speaker 1: It did to me.
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  Speaker 4: Because none of us knew Hector Ayala the White Tiger
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  Speaker 4: before this series started. Unless you were a com of
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  Speaker 4: a fan, you've never seen him in them, see you.
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  Speaker 4: I quickly grew to love the character that after playing them,
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  Speaker 4: did a magnificent job in the three episodes that he
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  Speaker 4: was in.
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  Speaker 2: And also, rest in peace.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we'll get I mean, I mean yeah straight
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  Speaker 4: up first yeah for real in real life. Rest in
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  Speaker 4: peace to the actor. I don't have his name right
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  Speaker 4: in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Com On de los Rez passed away from cancer last year.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck cancer.
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  Speaker 4: Combat cancer as always sucks because delivered a commanding performance
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  Speaker 4: to me in these three episodes. And then his character
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  Speaker 4: caught the hot one and I I was tight, fam,
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  Speaker 4: I like I was in the group chat. Immediately in
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  Speaker 4: the Four Nerds group chat, I was tight y'all immediately,
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  Speaker 4: and I didn't want to spoil it for the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the fans in there, the fan fam, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And then so I was just like, yo, fam, I
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  Speaker 4: hate this fucking show right now. That was my response
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  Speaker 4: after seeing him.
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  Speaker 2: So three, how much did you know of White Tiger?
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  Speaker 4: I was, like I said, a big fan, just because
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  Speaker 4: he was one of the rare Latin characters that I
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  Speaker 4: grew up with. He was in Power Man and Iron Fist,
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  Speaker 4: a comic book which was it was not the biggest
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  Speaker 4: hit of a comic book because of that Power Man
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  Speaker 4: a black dude, and I liked Iron Fesst a lot
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  Speaker 4: as a character. I was always a big fan of
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  Speaker 4: that comic. So I read that, you know, pretty heavy
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  Speaker 4: as a kid, even though you know, nobody else was
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  Speaker 4: for the most part. And White Tiger was in that joint.
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  Speaker 4: So and he was rarely in a and like I
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  Speaker 4: said before, in earlier episodes, he just had the coolest costume.
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  Speaker 4: And then he had a little jade tiger, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that's so fly, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. My man got a little ambulet necklace. You know,
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  Speaker 4: like my man rocking around with Joel's on.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He can't beat the superhero
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  Speaker 1: who has Juel's on, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: So I was down for it all that ice. I
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  Speaker 4: was loving it. But yeah, so I was really hyped
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  Speaker 4: to see him translated to the screen and you know,
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  Speaker 4: my man beats the case. You know, looks on the suit,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it has the classic look at me, I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking fresh looking fly while the hot ones.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna be honest with you, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know how they beat that case.
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  Speaker 2: I was sure that was going to jail. Come on,
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  Speaker 2: this is.
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  Speaker 4: The nypditious son, I like, because that was something I've
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  Speaker 4: really enjoyed this episode, especially the court scene. Like I
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  Speaker 4: remember they're talking about how this show they were looking
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  Speaker 4: and making more of a courtroom drama and it didn't
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  Speaker 4: work that way, and then they revamped it and this
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  Speaker 4: is the Born Again that we got now. But watching
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  Speaker 4: that courtroom drama, I'm like, this is something I could
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  Speaker 4: get for. It was something that it didn't. We saw
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  Speaker 4: a little bit and chihole, But that's what I was
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  Speaker 4: looking for from both of these is you know, Matt
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  Speaker 4: defending superpowered you know, criminals, organestes.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: I like the fact that he's I mean, that's also
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  Speaker 3: his premise, right, he's defending not to say, the helpless,
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  Speaker 3: but defending those those who need defense, right, defending those
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  Speaker 3: who who's down bad, who are it's not getting a
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  Speaker 3: fair shape stuff like that, right, yep. And the other
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  Speaker 3: part of the procedural court drama where I was concerned about,
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  Speaker 3: which is where like she Hulk failed, is that I
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  Speaker 3: didn't want the whole thing to be centered around Understand,
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  Speaker 3: he's the lawyer, but I didn't want the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: he centered around him being in the court.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he's in court a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yes you see the courthouse, but there's other shit happening, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: it's not center to the narrative of the show. Like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's one of the places where Matt Murdoch lives, but
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  Speaker 3: he's also fucking Daredevil and dere Derevil is about the streets.
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  Speaker 3: So I want to see a good balanced combination of
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  Speaker 3: the streets as long with the court. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: I feel like they've done so far and are doing
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  Speaker 3: as they continue this series.
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  Speaker 2: So I think I like how they did it. I
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  Speaker 2: like their approach, and I think I like the post
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  Speaker 2: because it's balanced to me. But that to say all
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  Speaker 2: that's all that, don't do it, but let us.
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  Speaker 1: Go back that way.
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  Speaker 2: There's no fucking way, bro.
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  Speaker 4: And like I said, I was really enjoying the courtroom
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  Speaker 4: drama this episode. I thought Matt presented a great you
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  Speaker 4: know case and then great argument and then my man
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  Speaker 4: on the stands you know, with.
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  Speaker 1: The because it was the right thing, because you know
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  Speaker 1: how they had an echo on that last.
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  Speaker 2: I said, because it was the right thing, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great.
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  Speaker 4: But then my man, you know, for the cops, you know,
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  Speaker 4: for the city, came back vicious on that.
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  Speaker 1: Head and I was like, you know, I don't give
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  Speaker 1: funk about the right thing. You know, my man's right.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the wrong person can do the right thing sometimes,
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  Speaker 4: like this dude might be the wrong person.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought he was doing the jail for sure,
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  Speaker 1: I guess just yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But they played it.
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  Speaker 3: They still played it well because you actually touched upon
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  Speaker 3: something that I ended up experiencing as a viewer, right
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  Speaker 3: like you mentioned previously. Also you mentioned that the way
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  Speaker 3: it looked in that courtroom, the way the camera, the
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  Speaker 3: positioning of the direction on that, like how every time
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  Speaker 3: they said anything about cops you've got, you panned over
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  Speaker 3: to the fifty eleven cops in the corner staring down,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just like, say something, Nigga. And then even
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  Speaker 3: like like Daredevil, excuse me, Matt Murray, like he's standing there,
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  Speaker 3: he hears them saying so and so can't testify, like
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  Speaker 3: he hear them whispering their heinous acts.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like you just see them.
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  Speaker 1: The was rising in this episode, right.
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  Speaker 3: And I know, like you said, plot army, he has
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  Speaker 3: to be he got to get free.
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  Speaker 2: But I was just like I didn't think he was
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  Speaker 2: gonna get free.
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  Speaker 3: I in fact, was with his wife when they were
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  Speaker 3: sitting there like he's not guilty.
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  Speaker 2: I said, oh my god, Jesus, he got it.
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  Speaker 3: He got like I literally felt how they felt like
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  Speaker 3: Nigga actually worked. Listen, Matt gave on a great speech
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  Speaker 3: and he really defended the shit out of out of
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  Speaker 3: White Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: But he didn't go last. And that's what and that's
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  Speaker 2: what the thing.
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  Speaker 3: There's there's a thing about who gets to speak last
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  Speaker 3: and trials, right, and in this case, it was the DA.
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  Speaker 3: So the DA technically had the last word. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: you want to see who's speaking more andmpathfully. But also
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  Speaker 3: sometimes because of like a recency bias, people may just
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  Speaker 3: go by with the last thing they heard and the
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  Speaker 3: last thing.
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  Speaker 2: That they heard from the DA was good people do
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  Speaker 2: bad things too.
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  Speaker 3: Granted it wasn't now in hindsight I'm thinking about it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't as strong an argument as Matts. I think when
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  Speaker 3: I'm really thinking about it, because Matt you know why,
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  Speaker 3: you know why he got the edge over the DA
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  Speaker 3: when he was just like, not just regular people, like
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  Speaker 3: they said, why take it didn't just help with people white,
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  Speaker 3: I can.
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  Speaker 1: Help the cops, cops.
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  Speaker 2: And then it paneled the cops and the cop was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he helped us.
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  Speaker 4: Too, you know, because some of them cops are definitely
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  Speaker 4: agreeing with it, because not every cop is corrupt. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: in my opinion, they are sorry you know it cos yeah,
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  Speaker 4: no shots, but you know, it's what it is. But
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  Speaker 4: in this and since some of those cops in the
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  Speaker 4: courtroom were definitely not the punisher down cops like my
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  Speaker 4: man offers a Powell, you know, bitch ass who I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I gotta give it to him. My man is resilient
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  Speaker 4: because I thought he was dead.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that should not have happened. God fucking alive.
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  Speaker 4: Brow that nigga, that nigga dropped, dropped on his head,
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  Speaker 4: like I swore, I heard the snap of the neck.
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  Speaker 4: My man is in court, not barely bruised up, like
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  Speaker 4: you know, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: Was popping that ship. But my man should have been
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  Speaker 1: a lot more, you know, concussed something.
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  Speaker 3: Matt folded that nigga like a creep. It was no reason.
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  Speaker 3: There's no fucking way, there's no way. That's just another thing.
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  Speaker 3: I was like improbable. I was like, are you still walking?
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  Speaker 1: In four seasons of Daredevil?
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  Speaker 4: That is easily Matt's easiest fight, Like Matt struggles against everyone,
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  Speaker 4: and he folded both of those cops with no problem,
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  Speaker 4: to the point where he study energy to scream afterwards.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how they's still alive. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how they hear to testify. But you know, my man
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  Speaker 4: Powell is a tough little bastard. I'll give him that.
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  Speaker 4: Like he's an asshole cop, he's a bastard, but he's tough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then and then you mentioned testifying, like the way
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  Speaker 3: that start with this just fucking.
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  Speaker 2: Nikki Torres like and that's real life too.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like they was hyping him up for like
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  Speaker 3: a week, like hey, you could do it, yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, ain't no way.
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  Speaker 2: You had.
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  Speaker 3: He had to run, he was about to get killed,
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  Speaker 3: he had to run out the fire escape, and you
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  Speaker 3: he's you're hyping him up, hiding him in the fucking
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  Speaker 3: dry cleaning only for him to get on on fucking
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  Speaker 3: stand and embarrass all ass.
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  Speaker 1: But you're a badass. I don't. I don't get it, man, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you going to do after that?
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  Speaker 4: You already went on the stand all these times on
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  Speaker 4: your face, half of them already your face and wanted
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  Speaker 4: to murder you anyway.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be an informant no more. And that's another thing.
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  Speaker 2: You're not gonna be a comfidentional informant no more.
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  Speaker 4: He did either way, you are still a loose in this.
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  Speaker 4: Don't have to get wrapped up, fam.
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  Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't know how that was
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  Speaker 1: a smart movie.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the fact that he didn't testify was enough.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that he it actually is still smart him
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  Speaker 3: because remember remember the guy whispered nik Nikki Almos said,
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  Speaker 3: Nicky Barnes, Nikki Torres can't testify, and he didn't, right,
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  Speaker 3: and saw them constant in that.
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  Speaker 2: Say something, My damn you say something.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't know. I mean, I guess you know what.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't, he didn't implicate anybody.
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  Speaker 3: And he even fact he said, oh I wasn't there
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  Speaker 3: and he fucking dipped and everything Matt yelled out after
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  Speaker 3: the fact is not permissible in court anyway. So objection, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: on some face, Phoenix attorney ship objection.
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  Speaker 4: In the side story, I guess to this episode, how
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  Speaker 4: are you feeling about.
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  Speaker 3: Miss's attorney after the backwards? But yeah, y'all know what
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  Speaker 3: I meant about.
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  Speaker 4: Mister Wilson fist and Vanessa and that relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, it is so is giving. It's giving Bravo Housewives drama.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm fucking here for every goddamn and I'm gonna
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: be here for their drama because the way that they
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  Speaker 3: even argue that's not an argument. And Vanessa's so fucking smart,
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  Speaker 3: that's the thing. Like, yes, Wilson a smart, but Vanessa
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  Speaker 3: is particularly smart and the way that she knows how
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  Speaker 3: to deal and handle Wilson, and the way she communicates
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  Speaker 3: with him proverbally and nonverbally, and the way that she
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  Speaker 3: has control over him to a degree, right like, and
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  Speaker 3: the way he's just a sip at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day, Wilson physical is a sip for some damn Vanessa.
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  Speaker 3: So anything, right, Yes, he he's this and that, and
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  Speaker 3: he's big and bad and he's done all this stuff whatever.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, that nigga is Scott
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  Speaker 3: Summons when it comes to Vanessa. Okay, that is his woman,
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  Speaker 3: and he will do anything for her and she can
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  Speaker 3: get away with literal murder if she needed to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, their relationship is so interesting because I think it
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  Speaker 4: was said best in the first episode. It's like Vincent
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  Speaker 4: has this no heclim Vincent Wilson has this view of
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  Speaker 4: Vanessa that you know she was she was you know,
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  Speaker 4: he put that pian a pedestal. And then when the
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: you know, when the p woke up, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: there's a whole woman you gotta deal with. Yeah, he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this ain't exactly what I imagine, you know, like, this
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  Speaker 4: ain't the Fendes thing.
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  Speaker 3: Remember you think he didn't know who Vanessa was when
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  Speaker 3: he like really established that deep seated love for her.
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  Speaker 3: I think he knew very well who she was, which
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  Speaker 3: is why they even though it's toxic as fuck, why
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  Speaker 3: they could work so well together, why they are complimentary
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  Speaker 3: to each other at the same time as being so toxic.
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  Speaker 2: He knew what it was when he signed up.
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  Speaker 4: He knew what it was, but for years he didn't
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  Speaker 4: have to deal with it as a person. He had
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  Speaker 4: to deal with the ideal, you know, and that's all
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  Speaker 4: he had to deal with. He didn't have to deal
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  Speaker 4: with the reality of a talking, breathing person who might
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  Speaker 4: disagree with him, and now he does.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm trying to remember in the previous series, did
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  Speaker 3: we see a lot of Vanessa at all?
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  Speaker 4: No, Remember Vanessa was in a coma for a lot
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  Speaker 4: of it, that's right, Yeah, and then Vanessa recovers, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's towards.
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  Speaker 1: The end of it.
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  Speaker 3: So to your point, that's making a lot more sense
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  Speaker 3: because now because she was incapacitated for.
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  Speaker 1: Incapacitated for something.
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  Speaker 3: But also disappeared, not just inscapacitated, disappeared.
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  Speaker 4: Disappeared and left her to run everything, which was like
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  Speaker 4: that's a series or spin off. I would have loved
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  Speaker 4: to see, you know, even an episode like even one off. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Vanessa running the city while King Pen wasn't there. That
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  Speaker 4: would have been I guess, you know, yeah, And I
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  Speaker 4: guess we don't need to see too much of it
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  Speaker 4: because you know, it's like Vanessa.
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  Speaker 1: You know what it was.
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  Speaker 3: She was a fucking g there's a fucking g. She
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: kept the niggas in line and everything was running smooth.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: And now she's made me your bitch ass. You have
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: to be you want to play Mayor Wilson Fisk, and
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: now I gotta be first Lady Fisk.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: And I don't want none of this ship.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: She don't want that, and that she makes that you
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: could tell, even if she don't verbally say it, she.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Makes it clear she don't. She tasted the King Finn life,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: she tasted.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: The most yant.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: She don't want that fucking five percent juice, five percent
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: ALC juice.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: She don't want that ship. You don't want to want
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: cool it no more.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: This is straight up ghosts and Tasha shout out to
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: my power lovers out there, because and it was always
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: straight one of the most hilarious things to me about
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Ghosts and Tasha when Tasha once told Ghosts, I didn't
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: marry a club owner.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I married the biggest drug dealer in New York.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: That's I want, you know, I'm not I'm not here
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: for that reform shit, Nigga, I'm here for that deally
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: dope shit.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: And that's honest, because.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: That's what Vanessa seems to be. Vanessa's like, I'm not
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: here for that mayorship. I'm here for that running the block.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: You know, she was she And I don't even want
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: to say what I was about to say because I
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: don't want to get ahead of myself. But like she
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: she clearly and that's her mind, that is at the
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: forefront of her mind, you could tell.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And everything she'd do is she's saying, like.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: So what if I just you know, set up this situation,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: you know, if I can launder this and do this
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: and do that, Like you could tell, that's all she's
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: fucking thinking about, right, She's thinking about business. And also
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I also wonder, because of the type of.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Time she on, is she just bored. She's that's the
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: other part.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: She's bored and idle hand is devil's work, right, That's
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: what they say, Like like you said, like that's the
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: whole problem. Also partedly of why they're going to therapy,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: it's because she don't even want to be in that life,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Like she don't want to go to the gallas with him.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: She don't want to show up on the podium with
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: him and play wifey, that shit, mad boring. She want
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: to do what she want to do, and she want
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: to do what she knows she could do well and.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Achieve higher height. She's she's a king pin, a queen pin,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: if you will.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about Matt's therapist girl? Also, somehow, I.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Still think this is Buck's fault. I still think Buck
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: did this shit on purpose. I could I've been giving
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: him I couldn't. Maybe giving him way too much credit,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: you know, buck uh right handling. Yeah, what I'm saying
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: about he knows since he knows who Matt Murdock is,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: maybe he knew the connection between Matt and the therapists,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: and maybe he did that shit on purpose. Because at
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, this lady is not the
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: only therapist in the city. So I'm just like why,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: And I understand she's like a famous therapist and she
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: has a book, and maybe she's one of the best
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: of the best, but she's not the only best of
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: the best. This is New York City, so I don't
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: know how that came about. Like Tim, I'm saying, it's
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: like the stars just a line. No, Buck did that
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: shit on purpose. I could be wrong, but I'm just thinking, Yeah.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I'm holding out hope that you're right about that, because,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: like I said before, Buck could be their version of
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: a character, the arranger or the Rose, not the Rose.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Doing some arranger ass ship the character, but just his moves.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: His moves is giving. I'm arranging and connecting the dots.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I'm a dock connector.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: There's also another one. I forgot about the foreigner. But
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the foreigner was always like he was like the adversary
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: to Kingpin.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: More so, but he more looks like Buck. You know.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: The foreigner was like smooth, you know, suits all the time,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: always fly, but he was straight up a Kingpin adversary.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: And then he disappeared without anyone. I've been learning his
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: name as far as I know. The Rose and the
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Ranger definitely worked for Kingpin.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Buckets snooty, Bucker snooty, and that's.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Why he gets off Rose. That's why he gets off rods. Like,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: I really hope by the end of it he just pulls.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: On the mask.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: That would be ill, but I'm not sure if that's
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: the direction they're going. The roses, like he has this
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: ill purple mask and then he always is, you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: cutting up roses and.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Stuff, cutting up roses.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he you know, he's like cultivating roses.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Got got gotch That's cool. I like it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: It's either that or your ranger Buck is one of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: those two.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was one of the first things you
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: said when we started the review, just about how yo,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: you know, Hector Ayala got got free kind.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Of just to get the hot pocket put in.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: But see, I didn't want to, like with Foggy, I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: can call it the hot pocket.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: You know. It's it's tough, it's to respectful.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: What's going it's who did it?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Right? We know what fucking was It wasn't it, Frank.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Castle, It can't be.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Can't be.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it because there's too many.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: There's too many wanna bees, as you saw by the
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: cops having the tattoos and all that stuff, and literally
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: like and first of all, one thing that's kind of funny,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Matt told Joe ass you cannot go out there in
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: that suit ever fucking again. And the next night my
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: nan hector and I understand, he said, and you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I get the philosophy, he said, this is who I am. Yeah,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you can't take this away from me. This is my
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: you know, this is my being as a person.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Duels chose me, nigga, I didn't choose the jewels.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: However, Karma, you just got off of a cock killing,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: you know, like.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: First degree, second degree man, So you.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Just got off of all that shit and the next
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: day or assumingly the next day, you go out.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You don't think you want to lay low for a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: So that's why I was just like, damn, Like, you're right,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: the streets, don't stop, the violence, don't stop, the crime,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: don't stop. And I understand you're gonna do what he
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: said on stand the right thing, but you couldn't like
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: give it forty eight hours two days later. So that
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: again not a big not a like a fault of his.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I just was just like, damn, could you have waited
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: and then like again for that person who shot him
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: to then like walk away and have the punishes on
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: There's again, there's too many fucking cosplayers out there.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that's right.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: What would Frank have with shooting him?
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, all right, my first thought was maybe it
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: is because Frank is, you know, a psychopath, and that's
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: something that this show has shown.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You know, that Frank is touched like and the Punisher
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: show showed as well. But like you said, they did
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: have you know, evidence already that a lot of these
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: cops are emulating the Punisher wants to be like this
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: man all that type of good stuff.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I realized too obvious? Did that?
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and why would he do that?
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Like you said, because even though as much of a
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: psychopaths as he is, I can't see him running up
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: and shooting Daredel in the head like that. And that's
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: pretty much the same thing.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: But where is Frank? What happened?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Like I don't recall, like I needed to go watch
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: the end of the other series. Where did he end
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: up at the.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: End of all that?
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: I can't even lie, y'all. I did not finish the
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Punish the series. I guess I didn't finish it, so
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I have no idea where to.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Carecter, like, is he still even active right now?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I think Defenders took place after that. I'm not sure,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: And I mean, I don't even know if they want
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: to consider that cannon anymore.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: That shit got weird. No, seriously, the show was weird,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Like I think I didn't watch it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: It was weird. But Punishment was in that. So he's
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: somewhere in New York City as far as I know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I don't, you know, I'm not sure you know where
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: whereabouts are? I know he's going to be in Born Again.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: You know, we already know that the John is in
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: this series. In fact, some news came out during the
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: like I think last week that John and writer of
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I want to say the name of the shows we
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: own this City or we run this City. It was
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: an HBO Max series about police. I'm not sure what
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: city it took place in. It was very dark. I
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: watched the first episode and I was like, I'm good,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I can't watch more than this. But the writer of
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: that and John are writing a Punisher one shot episode.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: There's gonna be like kind of like the Guardians of
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: the Galaxy holiday special or the wherewof by Night joint.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: So they're writing that and they're shooting that soon.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: So I'm not.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Sure exactly what that'll deal with, but I think it'll.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: They said it played off of some of the stuff
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: that we've seen and there were Born Again, and the
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: ideas came to them while they were doing Derener were
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Born Again. So okay, if this whole police and Punisher
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: thing isn't dealt with by the end of this first season,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I think that'll be something they'll definitely tackle.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm really happy to see that because that's happened
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: in real life.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: As you know, it's happened in real life, and Marvel,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: as a com UPLEK company, has been trying to figure
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: out what to do with the Punisher for years because
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: of this. I've talked about this on previous episodes. They've
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: made him a ninja, they made him Frankistan, they've made
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: him an angel, they've done everything. They killed Frank Castle
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: recently as far as I know, and there's a new Punisher.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: They've done everything to distance themselves from the idea of
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: just the Punisher who's out shooting criminals, because that's what
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: cops do. You know criminals and you know civilians more
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: than most games. I think, more like I can't remember
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: what the numbers are, but cops shoot way too many people.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Do you think this is gonna give Matt a bad reputation?
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Like he'll come and defend you, but your ass might
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: be killed.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: No, I don't know. Nobody's making that connect. Well, I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: mean no, they did reveal it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think most of MAT's cases are like this,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: So I don't think this.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Was like an exception.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Matt deals with high end shit, you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: you know his shit is a little more because.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: He did take this like pro boneus. He was just
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: like he just saw a guy in need, and it's like, oh,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna jump in there.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: True.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Remember his old law firm, rest in peace, foggy, you
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: know that's what they were. They were broke, you know
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: this new law firm. No, not so much, Shorty, ain't
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: rolling like that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I am interested to see how Matt like continues to
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: play this game that like he doesn't want to go
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: and beat everybody's ass every night.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: It's clear it's like.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: When he saw, like when he was in the bathroom,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: like going through it mentally and.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Officer Powell walked in.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Off right, when that nigga walked in and you taw
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: and like, you know, he walked up and he stepped
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: to him.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I said, slap him.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, slap this ship out of him, like
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: bang his head into the fucking sink.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: And yes, that's violent, but I'm like that's clearly what
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: he wants.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: And I know he's holding back so much, and it's
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: just like, at what point is that shit gonna ball
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: boil over?
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Like now, we saw Powell this episode, but we did
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: not see his man's right, No, we didn't see his
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: mans and that I.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Was like, damn, did his man's die?
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: No, his man didn't die, but his man, you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: having a hard time recovery.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Because power wouldn't have been that lenient or he would
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: have tried to kill Matt right away.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely right, So.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Both of them survived. They got so bad.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Look, you know, tough old Irish cops man, you know
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: how it is like the basses you know, probably was
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: drunk at the moment, you know, popped up on PCP.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Who knows what else anything else?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: What else is that?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I like how they did that shell game with the
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: with the witness niky tourists, where like Cherry they had
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: when they took him and cherry like drove him away.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I was, all right, that was smart. That was very
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: smart move.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: You know, they're very smooth.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Thought that was that?
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Is that the No, that's not the same. After I'm
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: trying to remember where I know the Asian actor.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Who is is he the lawyer? I'm not sure what
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: he is?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Well, the one that we saw and then so the
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: one that was that that took Nick through the cop
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I thought he was a lawyer.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a lawyer. He's part of the firm.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I thought he was one of the lawyers.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: I was trying to remember where I know that after
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: from If anybody in the comments out there does no,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: let me know the comments are anything else from this episode.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: No, I mean just from a real life perspective again,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: you know, rest in peace to Camar Della's face.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you did a he did a phenomenal
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: that you mentioned.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: He did a phenomenal job and a very heartfelt job
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: with a character I've personally never seen, never heard of before,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and for me to connect with him very quickly and
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: realize like he is like deeply one of the good
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: ones at least that you know that character he stands
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: for something and that's hard to come by in the
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: University MCU as it is, so you know, rest em
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: power to him and he did a beautiful job.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and rest in power to the White Tiger as well,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: to have Ayala the character, because that's up. Like for me,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: I was a big fan. I was very happ to
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: see him in this series, like, oh, yeah, finally we
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: get the White Tiger in MCU. I mean not finally,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: that's one of the characters I just didn't ever see
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: an MCU. Honestly, it's well, I see at this point,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I can't say that I spend to see every character
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: MCU because they're just trying to make this money and
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: they're gonna milk it forever and get every character they can.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: So I was happy to see him in MCU and
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: then he gives murk. But the silver lining of that
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: is that there's a precedence for this is that hepter
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: is not always the White Tiger. Eventually, in the comics
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: and an animation in the other forms, his niece Ava
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: takes over, and you know, she's already been there, so
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: hopefully we will see that in the futures, you know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Young Avengers, Young Defenders. I don't know however they want
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: to do it, but that'd be nice to see because
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I want to see the White Tiger continue on and
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: I really like the character and what they represent, so
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: hopefully more White Tiger in the future.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Thefth done anything else before we get out of here,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: nah man.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Just fantastic TV.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Great TV.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: We fucking told.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Y'all the streets is that they are doing the damn
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: thing when it comes to Daredevil Born Again.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I know y'all would it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: It's I'm just so happy. I'm just so happy. I'm
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: just I'm just pleased and happy right now.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Word, I want to give a bit shout out to
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Pedro Gomez Milean, the cinematographer of Daredevil Born Again, and
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: they're doing a fantastic job. Even before I knew their name,
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: I was this episode, especially like I said, that courtroom
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: shit had me on the edge of my seat. I
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: was sitting there and it was a lot had to
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: do with the acting everything, but also just the cinematography
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: and the shot selection. The handheld camera. They were like
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: moving in close on after faces. You know a lot
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: of shaky cam, but I mean not overt shaky cam,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: just where it's like that you know a little bit
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: where you just feel the tension through the camera shots
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: and everything. So great work there, Pedro. We might have
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: them on the show, hopefully very soon, so look out
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: for that also, you know, bit shout out to the
• 31:10
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• 31:15
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