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The Ultimate Enneagram Gift Giving Guide | a conversation with Amanda and Beth of Bone and Marrow Market · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, my name's Wesley and I'm six.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: Are you excited about Christmas?
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: What's your favorite thing about Christmas?
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: Getting presents.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_02: Getting presents is pretty great, isn't it?
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know who we're celebrating at Christmas?
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: God.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: If you were gonna get to go to Jesus' birthday party, what would you give him?
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: I would give him like$10,000.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think he'd like to do with$10,000?
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he can get like video games.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: I am five years old and my and I and my name is Savannah.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Are you excited about Christmas?
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: What are you most excited about?
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: I am excited about showing up this major with straw.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Because we're celebrating Jesus at Christmas time.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: We're celebrating his birthday.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: What would you give Jesus for his birthday?
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: Loving?
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_02: Those sweet voices get me every time.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm loving how they remind us the real reason for this season.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_02: Today I'd like to introduce you to Amanda and Enneagram 7 and Beth and Enneagram 3, who have been close friends for over 13 years.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: They've traveled the world together, been roommates for five of those years, owned an event planning business together, and now they have put their passion for all things personality and personal shopping together to create Bone and Marrow Market.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: As they and their community grew more familiar with the Enneagram, they began to search for specific gifts designed for the nine unique types.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: And they came up empty.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: But they've decided to change all that.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: The women behind Bone and Marrow Market believe that when we are seen and celebrated for exactly who we are, we have the freedom to become exactly who we were created to be.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: And now you know why they are my kind of gals.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: Bone and Marrow Market is the new way to shop intentionally for your loved ones, not only for the holidays, but all year long.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: They've thoughtfully curated gifts based on the distinct characteristics that make each of us unique.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: Really, you guys, these ladies are super smart and have done the hard work for you this Christmas season.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe you don't know all your friends and family's Enneagram types, but once you look at the boards they've carefully selected and pieced together, you may get a better understanding of your type and some fantastic gift ideas for everyone else along the way.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_02: Now, this conversation has also been edited specifically for you.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: Because, well, Beth and Amanda are not only friends, they are kindred spirits, which meant we talked for an hour and a half.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_02: But before you decide to skip this one, I did spend hours cutting down our conversation to just the Enneagram type gift ideas.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: So, we got to the point and had a little fun along the way, and we're here to help you.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_02: Because whether you are wanting to learn the own motivations and desires behind the gifts, or if you want to know the specific gift item you want to buy for each type, we've covered all of that for you today.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: This means some amazing parts of the conversation had to go.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm hoping Beth and Amanda will be willing to join us on the podcast again soon.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: I enjoy these ladies so much, and I know you will too.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_02: And by the way, if you go visit their Instagram, they are doing a special giveaway for three of my friends in the simply wholehearted community.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_02: So look up Bone and Merrill Market on Instagram and find the form for up a personalized shopping list.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_02: If you're like me and have more shopping to do than time, go get some help from these amazing ladies.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, and of course, this is an Enneagram conversation.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: So if you happen to be new to the Enneagram and need to know the best place to begin, head on over to easy Enneagram.com where you can find my free Easy Enneagram typing video guide.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_02: Instead of an online quiz, which often leads to mistyping and lots of confusion, you can have a short typing conversation with me to help you narrow down your dominant type.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_02: You'll want to share this one with all of your friends and family.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_02: And if you missed it last year, I've re-released my Simply Wholehearted Enneagram gift giving guide just in time to help you shop for your loved ones.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: Today's episode is all about this, so if you'd like to follow along, you can get your copy at the link in the show notes.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: You can also get my Easy Enneagram 101 and 201 course that are now available.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: These Lifetime Access Online Workshops make a perfect gift for your loved ones who are newer to the Enneagram or for those who are still determining their Enneagram type.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: By the way, the fun music you're hearing in the background is from our favorite music artist, Christy Knuckles.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_02: Download the Thrill of Hope and the Thrill of Hope Renewed and keep it on repeat in the background this holiday season.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: Now here's my conversation with Amanda and Beth of Bone and Marrow Murphy.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I want to do.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_04: It's my favorite thing.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe it's a three thing.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe it is.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_04: I hate doing things by myself.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's because we know we're not like there's there's better, like I know that someone else can do things.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_04: Like I love pulling people in.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, right.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_04: That can do things better than I can, and like going, we can all do this so well if we all use our strengths.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_04: No together.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, right.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm gonna just like pull the God card and say, that is just God's heart, right?
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_02: Because that's the body of Christ and that's how we should be operating in all things.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: And we just don't do it enough.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm big on it.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_02: I want I want my team to be colorful.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_02: I want to be super diversified.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: I want every single personality type.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: I want all the different perspectives, all the different um, you know, spiritual gifts.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_02: So because I can't be them all.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I just want to round up everybody else that is what I'm not.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, I think that one of our values and passions is to celebrate people where they are.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_04: And so that's why we use more than just the Enneagram.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_04: The Enneagram is probably our favorite if we have to say that we have a favorite, but we like all of these.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, because you're talking to me and our friends.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_04: And it's the deepest, right?
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_04: It's the motivation where Myers Briggs is cognitive processing, um, strength spinders disc, like they're they all kind of show a different side of a person.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_04: But I think kind of when you combine all of them, there's an intentionality that kind of emerges um that will say, I see you, and I want to celebrate where you are today.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and where you are today might be on a path to stress, or and that's okay.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_04: And that's that we we recognize that and even celebrate that, um, even if you're not completely in a healthy place yet, or um, or maybe you are, because we're constantly, I love that about the Enneagram, that it's not um something that is still, we're always moving in and around it.
• 7:37
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• 7:41
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• 7:45
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• 7:54
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• 7:59
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• 8:04
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• 8:14
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• 8:16
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• 8:23
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• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I created this guide.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's not as cool as yours because you actually have specific things.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: But we're gonna so we're gonna talk about both of those.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_02: Because the gift of the Enneagram is it helps us understand why we do what we do, and so it's the motivator, the motivations, um, the core desires, and and kind of gifts are essentially an opportunity to speak to some of those core desires, right?
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_02: And to give the gift of the message the heart longs to hear, which as humans we're never meant to fully satisfy that.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's up to God.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_02: But man, I want to love my people really, really well.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I know you guys, that's your heart too.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna dive in for each type.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: You guys ready for that?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, ready.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: So an eight, it's really important that you do whatever an eight already likes.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like they have made up their minds, they know what they want and they know what they don't like.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: And they really do want to be asked.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they're happy to provide the information.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: So kind of like stick to the list.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so for you guys, if we don't have the opportunity to ask for that list, or if we get just some general ideas, but we need to fill it in with specifics, what are some of the things that you guys recommend for a gifting a type eight?
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, eights are they're in a they're energetic, they're straightforward, they're independent.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_04: So I think if you don't get to ask, um kind of making sure that you get them something that is along along those lines, um, because they really they are so thoughtful too, right?
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_04: They have this side tender side, right?
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_04: This tender that I think innocence is kind of what is at the core of an eight.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_04: And so um kind of knowing that we talked a lot about getting gifts and coming at gifts from the positive words rather than the negative.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_04: So we a lot of times find our Enneagram type by seeing those negative things, and those are the things that we make fun of with Enneagram memes, you know, things like that.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_04: But when we're talking about giving gifts, um, gifts really say, I this is how I perceive you.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_04: And so when you give a gift, that's how gifts can kind of sometimes I think be hurtful or helpful.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_04: So true.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_04: So if you lead out, especially for an eight, I've done this a couple of times the wrong way with eights, where I lead out saying you're a challenger, or you know, like things like that, and um that is hurt them in some form or fashion, going, I don't just challenge to challenge, because I think a lot of times eights are challenging to protect or something else.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um oftentimes they're challenging to protect me, and I'm like, oh, and when you kind of see it from that stance, you can you know, do something.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_04: I they love intensity, like it intensity is their game.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_04: So a lot of the things we put on our gift list were um you know, like a stovetop espresso maker.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_04: Espresso is the most intense type of coffee, um you know, a planner that prompts um you to state your daily wellness intention and activity because they love, yeah.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the eights that I have two eights that I work with, two female eights that I work with, and they are the best people and they are they have the highest capacity.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_04: I'm a three, so I'm a high achiever.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_04: I get a lot done.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_04: They blow me out of the water with what they can do.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_04: Eight-wing sevens.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, eight wings, and they are they are both eight-wing sevens, and they can they just blow me out of the water in their capacity.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_04: So I think giving them things that help that capacity in some way, like a planner or something that speaks to the intensity that they enjoy is really good.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_04: But sticking to the list is is important.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_04: I actually talked to both of them and they were like, just give me a gift card, it's fine, let me pick.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_04: Because they love to be in control.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's so well said.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so nines.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm married to a nine.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: I love nines.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: I have a sister that's a nine.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: I have lots of good nine friends.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: They're awesome.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_02: And they like hold all the superpowers, so it makes them amazing.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and they they actually do want a lot of things, but they often are not vocal and honest about what it is that they do want or their top choices because they're afraid it's too expensive or too demanding or could be disruptive.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so they almost feel guilty for asking all their ones, almost like you would think a two two might think.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but they really do have specific items in mind.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_02: So how can um how can we help uh give the gifts or even figure it out what a nine is really wanting?
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we love our sweet Enneagram nines.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: My sister-in-law is a nine, my dad is a nine, and um actually showed our gift list to my sister-in-law after we curated it, and she was like, I love this, I love all of these things.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, it was really sweet just to get to see her light up over um the thoughtfulness that was put into each thing that we um picked out for them.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_03: And so um we, you know, they're like you said, they're the crown of the Enneagram.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_03: And so they take on and inhabit some of the characteristics of other numbers.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but one of the things that we focused on um was just the harmony and the peace that they um desire and crave.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_03: And so um we have some things on this list that help with just creating really comfortable environments for them.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: I think the very first thing on the list that we put was a blanket.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um just to create that comfort and that sense of like I'm safe and I'm home.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: And um, we also put a lot of things on there that would help them be able to um resist what disturbs them.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_03: One of the things Beth picked out for this list that was one of um she was so excited about this item, but it was the it was the alarm clock that doesn't have an air raid going off in the morning.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's good disturbing than that alarm clock and it actually like brightens as um as the sun would rise.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_03: And so it naturally wakes your body up.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_03: And so that was something to be yeah, fun to add to that nine list.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, they're also past focused.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: So we put some things on there, like we have a treasured recipes where you can go back in and grab those recipes from family or friends or relatives that mean something to you.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_03: Such a great idea.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so that you can keep those and really treasure um the things that make you feel um at peace.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_03: And so those were some of the things that we grabbed for the Enneagram nine.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's good.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: Those are perfect.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, could have so much fun with that.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: And plus, I need to mention that you guys are giving us a couple of highlights, but you can not only download the wholehearted Enneagram gift guide, but you could also you go to your page, Bonamaro, you've got specific items picked out, all the links to be able to find them really easily.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: So you could just click, click, click, click away, and boom, your shopping is done.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: So we're giving you some ideas.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, if you're shopping around Target, you can glance, but you can just pop on over to the Instagram app and you can see stuff with a real, you know, quick couple clicks um on Bodomero's site.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: So I just want to point that out because um that is really where the huge help is gonna come in.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and we, you know, in every single item, we didn't just put together like a shopping cart for people.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_03: We actually talk about why that item matters and why that item um we picked that item.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: So if you're needing help, like coming up with words, because otherwise these products are just products, right?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: Wrapped into a beautiful package.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_03: And if I don't know why you got this for me, then it's just a thing.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: But it matters so much to have words that actually go with I was thinking of you.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_03: And this is why I thought you would like this.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because that's what maybe even seals in that gift so that people go, Oh, you know me.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for knowing me.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's the power of intent behind the gift.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: So that intention, the thought behind it, I mean, that is what exactly like you said, it seals the deal.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: That is the bow on top for sure.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: So good.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so once they have a hard time knowing what they want, or they even struggle with spending lots of energy coming up with birth, like the perfect gift ideas.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_02: So you may not get a list from them because whatever reason, they think it's expensive, too expensive, or they're just not sure, and maybe they won't like it after all, or they need to even maybe do some research first before it's like exactly what they think they need.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: So help us out.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: So my it's funny because my dad's a nine and my mom's a one.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_03: And we were talking the other day over dinner about what Beth and I are doing, and about the gifts that my dad has always gotten my mom.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: And he is like, my mom's like, he gets me the you know, gizmos that he likes.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: And my dad, my sweet dad, is actually trying to think about what would be helpful for her, what would be um good for her, and she's like, this is dumb.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: He got a neck fan for her because he's like, You're gonna be hot doing your yard work, and she's like, This is stupid.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: And so, yeah, so it's really fun to think about um getting and shopping for an Enneagram one.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_03: But what we were thinking when we were curating a gift board for them was that they're black and white thinkers.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's great because the board actually turned out with a lot of black and white things.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um didn't plan that.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but a lot of things on that board are actually very black and white.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um we actually we also put in there a lot of things that help them organize and stay organized and focused, things that are practical for them and things that are um um that provide order and organization.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: So we have some things to help them organize their budgets, organize their cars.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um, in addition to that, we added some things that are um helpful in the present um because they are present focused.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: And so um we put some things that'll be helpful in their kitchen and in their home to help keep the order that they desire.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: So that's awesome.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: So twos, they're even less likely to tell you what they really want and are more likely to ask you to maybe even donate to a charity of their choice or something like that.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: So something that feels a little bit generic, and you're like, well, that's nice, and I would like to do that, but I'd like to do something for you.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: So help us out.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, they are, they're so attentive, right?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_04: To the needs of them, they're incredible.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, if anyone out there is looking for a roommate, like get a two as a roommate.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_04: Seriously.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_04: They are incredible.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_04: But, you know, really kind of flipping the script on them and saying, What do you need?
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I have found, you know, knowing a lot of my two friends, I have found that a lot of times the things they're doing for others are the things they actually need done for them.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_04: But they'll be the first to say, like, no, no, no, I don't need that.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_04: It's okay.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_04: I'm fine.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_04: And so to really be able to push into that space with them and say, actually, let me do this for you.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um so instead of you know, helping them, instead of they put everyone ahead of themselves, so helping them say, let's put you, let's, you know, kind of focus on you.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_04: And so we did a lot of things.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um, twos are present oriented.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_04: So a lot of things that kind of speak to that in the moment kind of thing, right?
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, in the moment, things that you know my specific two roommate would love.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_04: We put a book of the month club.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, every two I know loves books.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_04: They love because they love to help people, and so books will help.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I have uh several book lists on my phone from my two friends that say, Hey, you know, you should read this.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_04: Or they love gathering information.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but we also put a hammock on there because if you're gonna read books, do it in comfort, you know, and take a break, take a little vacation.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and slow down and kind of be present in the moment.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_04: So just different things that will help them do that.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_04: But really good rule of thumb.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_04: Whatever they do for you often, if you just flip that around and do that back at them, it probably is a really good oh yeah, for sure.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: I have definitely found with this type that coupon books are gold.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_02: You just have to hold them accountable to cash.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: It in because and that's where you can kind of make a list of okay, what has this person done for me?
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: And it's even simple things where twos are really great about writing that handwritten note and sending that thoughtful text, even if it's like a coupon list of things to hold you accountable to doing them on a regular basis to show your love and appreciation, they really do go a long way.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_04: I think receiving and those coupon books are perfect for that to say, Hey, I see you, and you are allowed to cash this in.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna follow up.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, threes, Beth and I can raise our hands to this.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we have a hard time being certain of exactly what we want because we often take on the interest around us, which is so funny, right?
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I wish I did, glad I do.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and they do they kind of have this weird motivation that they almost hope to further the relationship that they have with someone by enjoying whatever it is that the giver enjoys.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: Because we sort of have this weird thing of wanting, well, I want to make them happy and like what they like, and you know what I mean, Beth?
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: You're nodding your head.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_04: So I know exactly what you mean.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_04: Until at some point that backfires.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_04: And Amanda is gonna speak to this probably a little bit, but until at some point, you know, it backfires.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_04: Amanda and I, just to give a really quick um, we I think a couple of years ago, maybe we had already known the yeah, we had already kind of started studying the Enneagram, and um, we realized we've been friends for 13 plus years, and we realized, oh my goodness, I think we have been giving each other the gift we want for each other's.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_04: Like, so every year she's you know, we're going on an international trip, an international trip for my birthday, and every year we're like doing coffee shops and like staying in and going to dinner for hers.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_04: And it's like, what have we been doing?
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_04: So we're both threes, so we're gonna put Amanda on the spot here and let's talk about that as a free.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_03: I wanna, I'm like, I feel very inadequate talking about threes with two threes on this note because we both secretly want to be you, so it's all right.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, well, you know, I I love um, I've thought for years that Bethany had the superpower of knowing people better.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm because I'm a seven, I'm very focused on me.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: And um, not that that's something to be proud of, but me in the room, like how do I fit into the room, me, me, me.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_03: And she's always very good at noticing um other people and seeing other things happening.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: I think I was at her and um her house once for a party, and she noticed who was liking who and who was had issues with the other person, and all I've noticed was all the things in the room.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: All of the things in the room.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_03: And I had noticed um that the flowers, there were flowers that somebody bought that they needed to be cut and put into a vase.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_05: And that's the only thing I noticed.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, these beautiful flowers are gonna die, but I um I really love the things that bring that threes bring to the table.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: They are um goal-oriented and achievers, and that's words that you see a lot when you read about Enneagram threes, but I really love that they're able to see people and they notice people.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_03: And while sometimes that can be to their detriment of not knowing themselves very well, it is actually something um that is really endearing about a three because they just notice things that other numbers I don't think notice as well.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_03: And so, um, but because of that, we put um we put some things on our list that were goal-oriented, um, some planners.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_03: I think this is the only list that has two planners.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yes, please give me planners.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, they love you.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: All planners always on my list.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that highlights.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_04: We're goal-oriented, but we're not great at planning actually to get to that goal.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_05: So that's why there's we just keep writing all the goals.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_04: All the goals everywhere.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_04: And then we five years later look back and go, wait, wait a minute.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: I was chasing too many shiny goals.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's great that they have like they have and it some of these planners are specifically designed for an Enneagram 3 with helps you list out your priorities.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_03: How are you going to get to those goals?
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um just some gentle prompts to help with that.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but we also put some image focus things on there as well, which um can sometimes sound like a really bad thing, but I love that we did it because I think that for you guys who are threes, um, seeing yourselves the way we see you is such a sweet and thoughtful thing.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I love um Beth and I have pictures of ourselves for years.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_03: We were talking about it right before this podcast.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: And when I see it, I see my friend and I see how much I love her and how much she's stood with me as I've grown and changed and um like all of the adventures that we've had.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I don't know that every time she sees those pictures, she sees those things.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: And so um, we put something, we put a mirror on there um because we'd love to be able for threes to see um just the greatness that they actually bring into the room.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: So oh, that's beautiful.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: I feel loved, I feel so seen right now.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's so great.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, so good.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's those are spot on.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and I I think it's fun that you know we're just hearing let's little bits and pieces about you guys and hearing your stories throughout it.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: So good.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, all right, so fours.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_02: I have a lot of four friends, and I don't know if it's the four wing.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I kind of joked earlier when we were talking about that.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_02: I had this moment in the last week where it answered something in a way that I thought, oh my gosh, I'm really a four.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: Identity crisis, and I'm not, I know I'm not, but um, but for fours, it's really good to know what it is that interests them.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: What are some of their little quirks?
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: What are their maybe not so obvious interests?
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, maybe you know, you have a four-friend who, you know, is really into coffee, and so a coffee mug would be fun, but you need to get a coffee mug that is like has unicorns on it because they really like unicorns, or you know, that speaks to their um like wide variety of unique interests because that helps them be seen.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_02: So also if you're not really sure, sometimes just the goofy, silly, oddball things that you wouldn't normally get anybody else kind of go over really well because they do kind of like to laugh and they like to be thought of as a little bit quirky.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: So, what other great ideas do you have for our four friends?
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_04: Fours are so they're warm, expressive, um, introspective, and they do you hear the word unique with fours a lot.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_04: They really do like being unique, but I think they like to be unique while also being understood.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_04: So not unique just for the sake of being unique, but while being understood.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and so kind of being able to do that ambiance is really important to fours as well.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_04: Their space, I think, is very important, how they create that space.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_04: So just being aware of that.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_04: One of my favorite gifts that we put on um the list were homesick candles.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you have seen homesick candles, but they're so cool.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_04: You can get a candle that smells like the state you're from or things like that.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_04: So I could use a homesick candle for a lot of a lot of numbers, a lot of gifts, but they also have experience candles.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_04: So the one we put on the four board was the first kiss.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_04: And I thought, and it just says there's you know, there because there's a mysterious connection between the the past, and for fours they're past oriented.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely so that that past orientation and what that felt like in the moment.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um that and for some people, some people probably don't want to remember that first guess, but for others, it would bring back all of this all the good movies.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's super another thing we put as a gift is um a sound wave wall sculpture, which I think is so cute.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_04: You can get a sound wave built like with maybe their favorite song, and it'll have the actual sound wave of the song that they love.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_04: Um so just different things like that to say, hey, we value, we know what you like.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_04: Um, we know your space is important, we know being unique, but also being understood.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_04: So all of those things kind of just help in.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I love that.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's beautiful.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, now fives.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: So I think sometimes we put fives in a box and they are fairly specific and they have very focused interests and they dive really deep and they know it really well.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_02: So they do tend to be predictable and they ask for the same items every year.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Amanda, you probably have lots of good ideas for fives.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a seven, so in health, yeah, I should move to a five.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I don't know how often I'm actually there, but um I feel like with this job, you do it way more than you give yourself credit for.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, you know, I can always tell when I'm maybe heading in that direction because I'll spend hours like researching something or diving into wanting to know it a little bit more.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_03: And specifically for this um this initiative, this bone and marrow market, it's um really pushed me, I think, into some healthy behaviors of like wanting to understand people, wanting to understand how they work and um how they think.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_03: And you know what I love is that we put for the fives, we put a lot of um because we know that they're gatherers of information and knowledge.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_03: We put a book of the month club for the two, but the reason that a two wants to read books is different than the reason that a five wants to.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_03: And I love that about the Enneagram, that the motivation behind it is different.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_03: And so, um, but we put stuff to help them bring some order into their world.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and we had, yeah, it's really fun to think about the Enneagram five wanting to build order and to kind of create a safe space for that, for their information and knowledge pursuit to happen.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_03: And so that's good, yeah.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we put some things um, like we have a rock salt, a Himalayan rock salt lamp on there, and that's supposed to help bring good energy into a room and and to give clarity.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um so we know that that's something that fives probably would value.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we just added some things to help them create um their space really well, and also some things that um would help them in their pursuit of knowledge.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_03: So it was a great board to help curate.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's fun.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: That makes a ton of sense because that their space is really important because they need to go away and recharge often and make sure that they really have everything they feel like they need in order to interact and to be fully present and to engage with their world.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: So that makes a ton of sense.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: I love that you went that route.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's so good.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: I can't wait to check out this board because this one I don't think I've seen yet.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_02: So that'll be fun.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: All right, six.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the thing for sixes too, they get stereotyped as people who are ridden with anxiety and full of fear and they're not doing much in life.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: But that's not true.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: Not for the sixes I know.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, um, that is a big part of their lives, but there's also I know a lot of sixes who are counterphobic, and so that looks very different.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: They're running into their fears.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I put down and kind of have guided when I'm thinking about a six that they'll have a gift that makes them feel more secure.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um, something that displays a deep sense of loyalty and thoughtfulness from the giver.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like they are, kind of unlike almost any other, are thinking about the intent behind what's being received, first and foremost, not even the gift itself, which I think is really fascinating because for them it's really important.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: And and so that's how they would go about doing their gift giving, and they would really like to see people value that for them.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think it's important for a sticks to get the right gift, right?
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_04: Or the right do the right thing.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_04: You see them constantly being focused on right and wrong.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_04: They can look black and white, similar to a one, sometimes similar to an eight.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but their their reasoning is very different.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_04: Some of the most faithful, courageous, and um super loyal people.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um they are present focused.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_04: So they're gonna be, we put on there, I think, a guide to plan your reunion.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, on there for a six, because I think they're because they're loyal and they care about their family-oriented, you know, doing those things, you'll probably find a six leading those often.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_04: Um one of my favorite gifts to even think about that.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: That makes a ton of sense.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_04: One of my favorite gifts on our board, I like things that are subtle, that subtly speak to who they are.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_04: But um, we found a hexagon necklace and it has six sides to it, and it just says like we love who you are, but it doesn't say like Enneagram six on it necessarily, right?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_04: And that's probably my three coming out where I'm like, I want to show it, but let's do it subtly.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes, very important.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_04: I think sixes, they're rule followers too, you know.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_04: They really like to know the rules and then to follow them.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so yeah, it brings a sense of safety and security, right?
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_04: We put a clear bot a clear crossbody saddlebag on there, which at first I'm like, is that good to like show the contents of your purse?
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_04: And Amanda can speak into this because we have a sixth friend, and I think they went to a concert together.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_04: And so it was one of the things, Amanda, speak into that a little.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: So I was like, we need to do a clear purse.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_03: And and Bethany was like, What?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_03: For exactly the reason she said, and I'm like, well, because I went to a I think Taylor Swift concert and we Ubered there, and we get to the door and it says, you know, you can't bring a bag into the stadium because that becomes the rule, right?
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_03: You can't bring a bag unless it's a clear bag.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, who has a clear Ziploc bag that they're bringing in?
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: And um, and my sweet little six friend was like, no, this we're gonna get in trouble.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_03: We're not following the rules.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, we're not Ubering back to the hotel to leave your purse, like there was nowhere to leave her purse.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: So she had to break the rule.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, we should always have um clear bags when you're going into a stadium.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, especially if you have a friend who's a seven who's gonna drag you to stadium concerts and football games, and yeah, you want to have the thing that you need um that helps you follow the rule.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, to be prepared.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, sevens.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_02: Amanda, you're here to represent the sevens today.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: They really do love everything, and this is why we love them.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, just so much fun.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: But they do still have opinions, they're probably the least picky out of all of the types um about the specific gift, but I think it's really important.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: Again, intent with all of this is is makes it meaningful, but give them the gift that you are actually most equally excited about giving.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like they want to sense your energy and your joy behind it as much as they are to receive it.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of one of the things I have a seven-daughter as well.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I I've come to learn that this is really important.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: I better be have a lot of energy behind the joy of giving it.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if you're really excited about it, then that is contagious, I think, for a seven to be really excited.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a I am a seven and I really get excited about gifts.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_03: I'm an I'm a seven who loves gifts in general.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but equally, like if you're not thoughtful about a gift, it can be a little like, um, oh, okay.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_03: Like I don't actually know how to respond to it.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_03: So it's true.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, one of the things though that we were thinking about with our seven friends is that sevens highly value experience.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, they do.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_03: How do you package that up?
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's hard and put it under the tree, right?
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: And so the some of the things that we picked out for sevens actually go along with experiences and they're able to supplement an experience.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_03: So I think we put um one of my favorite products, like pack safe bags, where you can actually go into um, you can go on an international trip and feel like your stuff is secure because they are still in the fear triad and need a sense of security.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_03: Totally.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_03: It's just that they're gonna do it anyway, right?
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna overcome that fear and go in there.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so we put a pack safe bag on there so that their stuff can stay safe and they'll have what they need, right?
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but also it can go into onto any international trip with them or any trip in general, right?
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_03: And so, um, but we also put like um, I think we have like a cork globe and maybe like a leather key thing where they can document the things that they've done because they're gonna collect, you know, those experiences.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_03: That is so I think too, it also helps with because they're future oriented, um, it helps them linger a little bit longer in what they do have and what they have experienced.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: So that there's this um contentment that we're striving for, right?
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_03: To be able to subtly and gently give us the gift of um remember how um blessed and how um and what you've gotten to experience.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: So and to be fully in the moment as well of going, I'm gonna take this in for all it's worth.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's so good.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: I I just think this conversation has been one of my favorites so far because it's not every day that I get to talk with others who are so well versed in understanding the core, the core value of the Enneagram and all the pieces that you've thought, you know, thought through about the future, past, present oriented.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_02: What kind of triad are they in?
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_02: What is it that they need?
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like you guys have thought through all of the things.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_02: I I think the bone and marrow market is brilliant.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: I think that my friends are gonna really get a ton of value from being a part of your community, learning from you guys, even about the Enneagram, because there's so much about the Enneagram, and there's only so much I can teach.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: So, but if you want to camp out on the gifts and the why behind the gifts, I mean you're the people to follow and to learn from.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's just kind of a fun, like this is a really fun way to learn about the Enneagram in a way that helps us love others better.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because if it just becomes navel gazing, we have done ourselves a disservice and we've done the world a disservice.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_02: But looking at these things and viewing it from a lens of compassion and how do I love people better, how do I serve people better, how do I make others feel seen and heard?
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this is just such a beautiful way to do it.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_02: Whether their top love language is gifts or not, they're gonna feel loved really, really well.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_04: You know, one of our favorite things to say, or just as we talk, is when you celebrate people for who they are in the moment, and gifts do that so well.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_04: When you celebrate people for who they are, it gives them freedom to change and be who God created them to be.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_04: And so um, you know, it it's been so sweet to be in a friendship with Amanda for this long, where I've said to her multiple times, I don't know that you like me on the other side of this, because I could feel myself changing and growing and going, Oh, if you liked the Beth 13 years ago, you're not gonna like her now.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_04: But being able to give a gift that says, I see where you are today, and I celebrate that, and that really gives people freedom to go, okay, now I can change and grow into what God has created from the start.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_03: Because you're still gonna like me.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_03: If you can like me in this moment, which is a tense moment or a changing moment where some things maybe aren't the same as they've always been, then you'll stick with me through this season and into the next one.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_02: So beautiful.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_02: That'll preach, you guys.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_02: That'll preach.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_02: Well, ladies, I hope you have an amazing holiday season, that your Christmas is full and bright, and I just wish you the wildest success with Bonamarrow Market.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I have a feeling this will not be the last time that we have a conversation and share it with my peep.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm looking forward to what is to come.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks so much for having us.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_04: You were a joy.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: I love you every minute.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_02: Wasn't this so very helpful?
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_02: The Enneagram has helped me grow emotionally and spiritually.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm also incredibly grateful for how it helps me love others really well.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: We have the opportunity to say so much with our gifts.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: So let's give others the gift of being seen, heard, and valued.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Also, don't miss the awesome giveaway that Bone and Marrow Market are offering on Instagram right now.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_02: They also provide fantastic content all year long to help you be a great gift giver.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking I might be able to convince Beth and Amanda to be on the podcast again soon.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_02: So until then, go say hi and let them know how much you enjoyed this helpful conversation.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: And if you haven't yet joined Simply Wholehearted on Instagram, then hop on over to join the Enneagram conversation and be inspired to live your best wholehearted life.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, and while you're in the show notes, would you leave a five-star rating on iTunes or on your favorite podcast app?
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: It lets others know that they are welcome here and what to expect in our conversation.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_02: Next Monday's episode, we will continue our Avent Season of Celebration with an episode all about my favorite story and a timeless classic, Little Women.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_02: If you enjoyed the Enneagram Visits Downton Abbey, you'll enjoy this one as well.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: So, in honor of the new movie coming out on December 25th, my sister Annalise Higgins and I chat about the beloved characters of Little Women and their Enneagram types.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh friends, this was so much fun, and you'll want to share it with all your friends who like the Enneagram or this classic story.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: So, until next week, let's invite others to join us as we pursue perspective, purpose, and plans for a simple, full hearted life.