Latest / Best of Business / Jenee Tibshraeny: NZ Herald Wellington business editor on Nicola Willis' refusal to establish an independent unit to check on Government spending
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- 0:17Speaker 2: The government is being told it needs an independent unit
- 0:19Speaker 2: to make sure government spending is sustainable and to check
- 0:21Speaker 2: cherry treasury forecasts and so on. Vast majority of OECD
- 0:24Speaker 2: countries do have this kind of institution, but the Finance
- 0:27Speaker 2: Minister isn't so keen. The Herald's Wellington Business editor jenetib
- 0:30Speaker 2: trainees with us, Hey, your name.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Hey Heather.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Why doesn't she like the idea?
- 0:34Speaker 1: Well?
- 0:35Speaker 3: Nikola Willis reckons that the Treasury does a good job
- 0:39Speaker 3: and also that the oversight provided by the Order to
- 0:42Speaker 3: General is good enough, although it could be beefed up
- 0:45Speaker 3: a little bit. Nicola Willis is open to establishing a
- 0:49Speaker 3: new unit that checks political parties policy costings. You know,
- 0:54Speaker 3: this is something that we've talked about quite a bit,
- 0:56Speaker 3: because you know, every election, parties come along and we
- 0:59Speaker 3: end up getting all tied up and whether their promises
- 1:02Speaker 3: stack up in terms of the money, and you know
- 1:04Speaker 3: that's potentially a distraction from us actually discussing the policies.
- 1:08Speaker 3: So she is open to that, but she's not you know,
- 1:11Speaker 3: particularly exercised to you know, progress something like that.
- 1:17Speaker 2: So would this just be an agency that has a
- 1:19Speaker 2: look if the government says we're going to do the
- 1:21Speaker 2: following thing for this much money, it checks it over
- 1:23Speaker 2: and goes, yep, that's reasonable. Is that basically what it
- 1:25Speaker 2: would do?
- 1:26Speaker 3: Well? Around the world. These sorts of institutions have different mandates,
- 1:31Speaker 3: so some of them just do that. But what the
- 1:33Speaker 3: OECD reckons and also someone who did a big review
- 1:37Speaker 3: of our budget processes, they believe that we need a
- 1:40Speaker 3: sort of more broader institution that checks the Treasury's forecast,
- 1:44Speaker 3: you know, checks that the finances are on track, and
- 1:47Speaker 3: also checks the political party's costings. Now Cameron Bagrie, an
- 1:52Speaker 3: economist Allisses might might have heard a bit from. He
- 1:57Speaker 3: made a point in a column recently. He noted that
- 2:00Speaker 3: the Treasury at the budget assumed that in the future
- 2:03Speaker 3: our productivity growth would be pretty high, like thirty year
- 2:07Speaker 3: average high. But recently our productivity has been super low.
- 2:12Speaker 3: So he raised the point that if our productivity growth
- 2:15Speaker 3: continues to be as low as it's been in recent years,
- 2:18Speaker 3: we should forget about getting the books back in surplus. So,
- 2:21Speaker 3: you know, I thought that was quite a good point
- 2:23Speaker 3: that Cameron made because the Treasury's modeling is based on
- 2:27Speaker 3: the assumption that productivity growth is going to improve, but
- 2:30Speaker 3: what if it doesn't improve? So this is the type
- 2:33Speaker 3: of thing that the experts reckon. A independent unit could
- 2:38Speaker 3: shed some light on interesting stuff.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Jennay, thank you. I really appreciate it. Jene tib Trainey,
- 2:43Speaker 2: the Herald's Wellington Business editor.
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