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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Big Mac & Coke · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.
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  Speaker 3: This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 4: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 1: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Do it live.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm going to call myself a cokehead,
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  Speaker 5: but I am a huge Jalen Coker fan.
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  Speaker 2: Come on in. Cokehead tonight. Come on, Adam.
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  Speaker 5: When I left Carolina and I got back to Minnesota,
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  Speaker 5: I told everyone he's their best receiver. I truly believe
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  Speaker 5: that he is their best receiver, and he has the
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  Speaker 5: ability to be one of the better receivers in the league.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't have a weakness.
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  Speaker 5: He's 230 pounds and runs a 4-4. He is a
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  Speaker 5: massive target who– I think there was a game my
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  Speaker 5: last year in Carolina where he ran like 22 miles
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  Speaker 5: per hour. And so like the guy can run and
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  Speaker 5: he's huge and he can run slants. He's got body control.
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  Speaker 5: He can run dig routes. His ability to stop and
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  Speaker 5: start is incredible for a guy who's 230 pounds and
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  Speaker 5: running that fast, like incredible. And so his biggest question
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  Speaker 5: mark was injuries, right? Like he's had a lot of injuries.
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  Speaker 5: He's missed a lot of games. And that was his
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  Speaker 5: biggest question mark. But he is, in my opinion, their
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  Speaker 5: best receiver.
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  Speaker 2: So that was last week.
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  Speaker 6: Adam Thielen on with Matt Berry on the Happy Hour
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  Speaker 6: Fantasy Football Podcast. Then you flash forward to this week,
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  Speaker 6: and listen, T-Mac ended up, he did have the fumble,
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  Speaker 6: and he did only have one catch bone through about
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  Speaker 6: two and a half quarters. But he ended up with
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  Speaker 6: five for 75. Pretty damn good day. But Coker went
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  Speaker 6: the heck off to the point where, as we mentioned yesterday,
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  Speaker 6: he had 33.8 fantasy points and was the number one
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  Speaker 6: fantasy receiver ever. two touchdowns, over 130 yards. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: he went off, and it's the second straight time he's
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  Speaker 6: done that, if you go back to the playoff game
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  Speaker 6: from last year. So we get to this week, Bone,
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  Speaker 6: and I start noticing on the text line, some Panther
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  Speaker 6: fans are like, Adam Thielen was right.
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  Speaker 2: He's our No. 1 receiver.
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  Speaker 6: I saw a guy say, I tried to tell you
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  Speaker 6: last week that Jalen Coker's our No.
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  Speaker 2: 1 receiver.
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  Speaker 6: And then you start hearing some of this stuff in
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  Speaker 6: the media about, You also, Bones, start seeing some stats
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  Speaker 6: that are very interesting as well, like this one. And
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  Speaker 6: I did not know it was like this. Last seven
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  Speaker 6: games that Coker and TMAC have played together, Coker, and
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  Speaker 6: it includes a playoff game last year, Coker, 35 catches,
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  Speaker 6: 516 yards, six touchdowns. TMAC, 24 for 387. for two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 6: So it's interesting. You get to, and then some of
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  Speaker 6: the fantasy dudes are talking about it, Bone. I know
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  Speaker 6: Josh Norris and Hayden Winks do that podcast about it
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  Speaker 6: and Hayden Winks about fantasy. And Hayden Winks was talking
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  Speaker 6: about how he thinks the, he would go this far.
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  Speaker 6: He thinks Coker and TMAC are a lot closer than
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  Speaker 6: everybody thinks.
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  Speaker 7: Both these players on, on the perimeter were, were really excellent.
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  Speaker 7: Jalen Coker, a couple of double moves down, down the
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  Speaker 7: football field, like really took advantage of facing Tyreek Stevenson. Uh,
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  Speaker 7: but over like the last 10 games, it's, it's pretty
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  Speaker 7: much a toss up between TMAC and Jalen Coker. And
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  Speaker 7: that's like the, the split when Jalen Coker, uh, went
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  Speaker 7: to like a full-time player, uh, out there. I think
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  Speaker 7: maybe my, my film takeaway here was, uh, Tedderall McMillan.
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  Speaker 7: Like I felt those 12 pounds on, on a couple
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  Speaker 7: of those reps. Like there was a one kind of like, uh,
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  Speaker 7: downfield curl route where that, uh, there was like not
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  Speaker 7: a much separation, a couple of crossing routes. And I
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  Speaker 7: thought last year, uh, people that weren't watching the tape
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  Speaker 7: or like Tedro McMillan, McMillan slow. And he was running
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  Speaker 7: by guys down the football field in this one. It
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  Speaker 7: wasn't quite as clean as that. Now he's still routed
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  Speaker 7: some players up. He's going to work over the middle.
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  Speaker 7: He's going to still be an effective player, but I
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  Speaker 7: will say that I kind of felt those 12 pounds
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  Speaker 7: that he put on this off season. And, I do
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  Speaker 7: think that the gap between Coker and McMillan in fantasy
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  Speaker 7: drafts is probably was not tight enough versus what the
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  Speaker 7: reality of the situation is going to be moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Man, so he thinks T-Max weight gain. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a good thing.
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  Speaker 6: He's trying to say he watched a film, he thinks
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  Speaker 6: it's a bad thing.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about this?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that remains to be seen there, but I
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  Speaker 4: will say this conversation right now, trying to figure out
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  Speaker 4: if Coker is on the same level as T-Mac, what
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  Speaker 4: a problem to have, all things considered. Think about a
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  Speaker 4: couple of years ago, trying to figure out who are
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  Speaker 4: Bryce's weapons. Now we're trying to figure out who's 1A,
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  Speaker 4: who's 1B, whatever it may be. Looked it up here, Matt, in...
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  Speaker 4: 17 games with Bryce as his quarterback. TMAC, 75 catches,
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  Speaker 4: 1,089 yards, 7 touchdowns. That's 17 games. 19 games for
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Coker with Bryce, 59 catches, 806, 5 touchdowns. So, yes,
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  Speaker 4: it's less than TMAC in more games, although Coker's been
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  Speaker 4: coming on more recently, like we said. But, man. this
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  Speaker 4: is a great, we've had a lot of negative conversations
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  Speaker 4: this week. To me, this is a great conversation. I
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  Speaker 4: think that's the first takeaway you acknowledge, right? Like, and
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  Speaker 4: I think it was Ms.
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  Speaker 6: Sweetcheek sent the same thing in during the break when
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  Speaker 6: you teased it was like, can we just celebrate the
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  Speaker 6: fact that we have two receivers that are.
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  Speaker 2: This good and that we're like, we have a debate.
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  Speaker 6: She said it's the first time in franchise history and
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  Speaker 6: she might have a point like, cause even when Smitty
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  Speaker 6: and Moose were together, like, That's the best tandem we
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  Speaker 6: ever had, in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
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  Speaker 6: But it wasn't really a question, right, of who the
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  Speaker 6: one was and that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 4: And it wasn't a high-octane passing offense that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they played their roles to a T. Smitty was great, Moose.
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  Speaker 4: was also great in his role. Physical stuff, chain moving, blocking.
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  Speaker 4: But it was also a lot more of the John
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  Speaker 4: Fox offense that they ran, too.
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  Speaker 6: Or style of play, I should say. Now it's going
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  Speaker 6: to be Air Bryce, baby. We throw him for 360
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  Speaker 6: every week. So that's the first thing I think that
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  Speaker 6: y'all said that I agree with. Like, let's just take
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  Speaker 6: a minute to celebrate and bask in the fact that
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  Speaker 6: we have these two guys together.
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  Speaker 2: And, like, I think it could be.
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  Speaker 6: What do we have with Teddy Bridgewater, the 2,000-yard receivers.
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  Speaker 2: For one year?
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  Speaker 6: Like, with DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson? Then Robbie changed
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  Speaker 6: his name, and we never heard from him again on
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  Speaker 6: the field. But, like, 2,000-yard receivers? I think it's in
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  Speaker 6: play if they stay healthy. I honestly do. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: you look at those Coker numbers over the last seven games.
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  Speaker 6: That's 516 and six touchdowns over a seven-game sample. You
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  Speaker 6: extrapolate that outbound over a 17-game season– I mean, you're
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  Speaker 6: talking 1200 plus yards. You're talking 13 touchdowns. That's absurd, man. Like, so, um,
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  Speaker 6: and he's, he's a bigger play guy than people think.
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  Speaker 6: I still believe the added weight for TMAC is a positive.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little alarmed.
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  Speaker 6: To hear Hayden Wink say he thinks that's affected him
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  Speaker 6: in a negative way. I still think it's a positive
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  Speaker 6: because I saw him last year. He looked very slim.
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  Speaker 6: And there were times, Bone, where he did not come
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  Speaker 6: down with the contested catches that I thought a guy
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  Speaker 6: of his size should come down with. And I thought
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  Speaker 6: that play strength, that size would add to play strength. Now,
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  Speaker 6: he can't lose speed, though. He can't lose mobility. I
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  Speaker 6: didn't really think he did. A lot of texters are saying,
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  Speaker 6: I'll read one of them here, but a lot of
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  Speaker 6: y'all are saying this. 704 number says, people are overreacting
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  Speaker 6: to TMAC getting a slow start. The Bears defense clearly
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  Speaker 6: was honing in on him. There was definitely some of that,
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  Speaker 6: but I did notice times. He still had a pretty
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  Speaker 6: damn good game, too. Statistically, other than the fumble, it
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  Speaker 6: ended up being okay statistically. Could it be where one
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  Speaker 6: week is a Coker week, the next week's a TMAC week? Again,
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  Speaker 6: don't you want that? You don't want defenses to be
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  Speaker 6: able to hone in to stop one guy.
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  Speaker 4: I will say, I still think, though, to get the
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  Speaker 4: most out of both guys, a third element needs to
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  Speaker 4: develop in that receiving game. We said yesterday, hey, could
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  Speaker 4: it be Brooks or Waller? They need a third element
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  Speaker 4: to really take this offense back to another level, and
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  Speaker 4: we'll bring it up again. We brought it up yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I think Darius Slayton would be a great third wideout
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  Speaker 4: as a free agent right now out there with these
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  Speaker 4: two guys. Yeah, they can get by with these two guys,
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  Speaker 4: but think about Mac adding another wide receiver option out
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  Speaker 4: there with them. That can really do some stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, your boy Trailer Park Thomas is saying, but behind
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  Speaker 6: the two, we have nothing. Yeah, I think Waller could be,
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  Speaker 6: if he stays healthy, knock on wood, maybe third in targets, honestly,
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  Speaker 6: this year. And as you said, Brooks, too, I think
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  Speaker 6: you've got to do it other ways.
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  Speaker 2: I will say this, though.
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  Speaker 6: You've got a duo like that, they could do a
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  Speaker 6: lot of good things for you, man. It's not ideal,
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  Speaker 6: that lack of depth behind them. But my God, this
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  Speaker 6: could be a special duo. This dude says, everybody crowning
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  Speaker 6: Coker because he stayed healthy for seven straight games. That's
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  Speaker 6: the problem, his durability. Talk to me when he plays
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  Speaker 6: a full season. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think
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  Speaker 6: that's part of why I would still say T-Mac. I
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  Speaker 6: don't want to kind of knee-jerk reaction it, but those
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  Speaker 6: last seven games are very interesting. Another texter says, once
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  Speaker 6: Coker got himself in shape, this is the type of
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  Speaker 6: player he could become.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: He's he's God, he's special, man. But, but like, I
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  Speaker 6: don't want this to turn into like a negative on
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  Speaker 6: TMAC thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: Like you said, bone five is for five for 75.
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  Speaker 6: extrapolate that out. And yes, I used extrapolate twice in
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  Speaker 6: a segment. Give me a medal. But you make that
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  Speaker 6: for a full season. That's still pretty good numbers. What
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  Speaker 6: do you think about this, Fitty? It's going to be
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  Speaker 6: hard to get. Both guys aren't going to get like
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  Speaker 6: 130 every week.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're right. It's going to be kind of matchup-based.
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  Speaker 2: Back and forth. Yeah. What do you think, Fit?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I got some flack on Tuesday when we put
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  Speaker 9: in for Colin because I said that I thought T-Mac, like,
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  Speaker 9: I didn't feel his presence. I didn't feel his impact.
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  Speaker 9: And then someone brought up the numbers. We had five
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  Speaker 9: catches for 75 yards. Are you saying that he sucks?
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  Speaker 2: And that's not at all what I was getting at.
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  Speaker 9: I just, you know, as much as we talked about
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  Speaker 9: him in the offseason in the slot, I thought he
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  Speaker 9: was maybe going to have the game that Coker ended
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  Speaker 9: up having because But, Mac, this is a good problem
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  Speaker 9: to have. Like, the onus is on Brad Inzik to
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  Speaker 9: put together a game plan that gets both guys involved
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  Speaker 9: on a week-in, week-out basis.
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  Speaker 2: Feed your studs, Dan Henning, man. Feed your studs.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know if you know this, Mac, but our
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  Speaker 9: owner thinks that Bryce Young is a point guard. Because
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  Speaker 9: if we have a game plan where both guys are
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  Speaker 9: getting open, they're involved, then all Bryce has to do
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  Speaker 9: is just distribute that rock and then get both these
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  Speaker 9: guys involved.
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  Speaker 4: David Tepper would like to see you and Mike K both.
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  Speaker 4: He'd like to call you to the office later today.
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  Speaker 4: Are you guys in for the name of the duo
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  Speaker 4: that Robbie dangerously texted in?
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  Speaker 2: Big Mac and Coke. Or as Finney calls that Thursday. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God.
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  Speaker 9: Actually, not a Big Mac guy, but I get the
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  Speaker 9: double quarter pounder.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Finny? No ketchup. I'm also not the
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  Speaker 2: biggest Big Mac guy either. Yeah, because the Mac sauce,
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  Speaker 2: not good. Yeah, I'm not a Big Mac sauce guy.
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  Speaker 2: You don't like it? I like it.
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  Speaker 4: That's all right.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: All right. Only he likes Mac sauce. But I probably,
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: calm yourself down over there, y'all. We're adults. We're supposed
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: to be, at least. That's what he said. Calm yourself down.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just using another man's words. Yeah, I would probably
• 11:31
  Speaker 6: go quarter. I just don't really eat that much McDonald's
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  Speaker 6: except breakfast.
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  Speaker 2: We end up on food again. Because we're always ending
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: up on food. There's a bunch of fat.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like the Robbie guy texting it in. Let me
• 11:39
  Speaker 6: ask you this question. We're talking T-Mac and Coker. What
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: about Whopper versus Big Mac?
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  Speaker 9: I would still go Big Mac because I don't eat
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  Speaker 9: Burger King.
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  Speaker 6: Dude, I love the Whopper. The problem is, is there
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  Speaker 6: a Burger King in the state of North Carolina? I
• 11:51
  Speaker 6: haven't seen a damn Burger King.
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  Speaker 2: There's one in Monroe, but you don't go that far
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  Speaker 2: down 74. In ages. In ages. Yeah, I don't get
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  Speaker 2: down there much. Whoppers are two for buy one, get
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  Speaker 2: one free on DoorDash.
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  Speaker 6: I love a big old sloppy Whopper.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're going to start laughing again, aren't we?
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  Speaker 4: We're going to start giggling like middle schoolers again.
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  Speaker 6: But I don't know. But the thing is, yeah, Burger King.
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  Speaker 6: That'll be in the open for eternity. I feel like
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  Speaker 6: Burger King's been closing down a big time. You know
• 12:19
  Speaker 6: when you say these things, they're going to come back
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  Speaker 6: and use it against you, right?
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  Speaker 9: I think Wendy's has the most underrated fast food burger
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  Speaker 9: in the game. That was my spot last year, Mac,
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  Speaker 9: after Panther losses.
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  Speaker 2: Baconator.
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  Speaker 9: And I would depress eat. When the Panthers would lose,
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  Speaker 9: I'd go to Wendy's, get me a son of Baconator
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  Speaker 9: or get the Dave's Double. Underrated fast food burger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Wendy's.
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  Speaker 4: How does he tune in every day at the same
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  Speaker 4: time when a fast food discussion breaks out?
• 12:48
  Speaker 6: This dude said, fast food discussion followed by immature humor.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm listening to the Mac and Bone show. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't grown up yet. My wife tells me all
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  Speaker 2: the time.
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  Speaker 8: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very sloppy sandwich, though.
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to be weird there. But it's a
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  Speaker 6: very big and kind of— I haven't had one in a while.
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  Speaker 6: I do enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: Been a while! Not going to lie.
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  Speaker 4: I told you, buy one, get one free. A DoorDash
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  Speaker 4: right now for Whoppers.
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  Speaker 2: We got a Burger King in Charlotte somewhere. Just DoorDash.
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  Speaker 2: Somewhere I can go to. They'll find one for you.
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  Speaker 2: There's one on North Triad. I don't DoorDash much. One
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: by South Park. I am discouraged to dash. Mrs. Mac
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  Speaker 2: is not a Dash fan.
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  Speaker 4: She believes we should go pick up our own food
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  Speaker 4: and not pay the very large, like, fees.
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  Speaker 2: What year is she living in?
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  Speaker 8: 2016?
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  Speaker 2: Come on, Mrs.
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  Speaker 4: Mac.
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  Speaker 2: She's just not.
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  Speaker 4: Let my man get that bag dropped by the door
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  Speaker 4: like he's Jay Williams in college.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Not schools that were Duke.
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
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  Speaker 4: radio program. Sean Syed from Sumer Sports joins us to
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  Speaker 4: analytically talk about the Panthers' performance and where they can improve.
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 6: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. A little rock and roll for
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  Speaker 6: you in the morning. Wake yourselves up out there. We
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: got a football game coming up in three days against
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: the Hated Falcons in the house that Bryce owns, baby.
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  Speaker 6: We got to get ready for it. And as y'all
• 14:38
  Speaker 6: said last hour, we got to move along. We got
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: to stop the groveling, stop the whining, stop the complaining
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  Speaker 6: about the defense from last week. and move on with
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: our lives. We're also getting an amazing amount of fast
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: food and burger texts right now. That's the thing that's
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: so funny. We did get some people saying it's football
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: season lock in. Somebody suggested that we try Ritalin bone
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: for all the tangents and rabbit holes we go down
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  Speaker 6: and can't get back out of. But I see many
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: of you chiming in and I appreciate those of you
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  Speaker 6: that inform me. that there is a BK lounge, um, uh,
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  Speaker 6: on Wilkinson Boulevard, not too far from our radio station.
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  Speaker 6: Cause I, I have, uh, I am cheating today. I am,
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  Speaker 6: I am cheating today on my, on any kind of diet, uh,
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  Speaker 6: that I may do earlier in the week. And I
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  Speaker 6: may hit the BK lounge. I may definitely do that
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  Speaker 6: Keep the text coming, 704-570-9610. And remember, I would say
• 15:37
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  Speaker 4: Matt Finney's calling the guests right now. I know that
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: you've been wanting to talk about this for a while,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: but I've kind of held off because... I didn't want
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: to jinx what was going on, but we need to
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: talk at some point about my– while we're talking food here,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: waiting for the guests, about my magical DoorDash account that
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: you can't believe what's happened on my DoorDash account.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: Do you want to admit this publicly? What if a
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: DoorDash executive is listening or something?
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Let's just say I order a lot of DoorDash, probably
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: more than the average family. Yeah. Matt, there's been a
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: glitch in the system here for about a month and
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: a half or so, where every time I order something from, well,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: maybe not even DoorDash, from an unnamed food app.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Where it puts the money back into my bank account
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: the next day.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, man.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: So I basically have just been ordering DoorDash, and the
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: next day, that money goes back into my bank account.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Holy crap. I would order every meal then.
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  Speaker 10: Mrs.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Mac's rule would not apply then.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: I'd say it's about 15 times the next day I
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: wake up, and it's back in there again.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Keep that quiet. Keep that secret.
• 16:45
  Speaker 8: Keep it a secret.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, I saw. Did I say DoorDash? It's obviously
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Uber Eats.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: All right, let's change it back to football conversation right now.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Matt tried to get me to order a breakfast the
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: other day because the money would come back.
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: All I'm looking for is a defense to give up
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: less than 50 points. Bones got the break of all
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: breaks right there. All right, our next guest joins us
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: from just an awesome site. If you're a stat geek
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: like I am, it's an awesome site. Sumer Sports, you
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: need to check them out. Part of their team is
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: with us right now. Sean Syed from Sumer Sports joins us.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: to talk Panthers, talk some NFL football. Sean, what's happening, man?
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: How you doing?
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: I'm doing really well. You know, I got excited hearing
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: you guys talking about ordering a little bit of food.
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: That got me a little bit excited. But, you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: week two, week one in the NFL, I got equally
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: excited as well.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And people love food. People love points.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Panthers were bear food the other day.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Yes, they were. And we got tons of
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: points in the NFL.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: But to Bone's point over there, unfortunately, 59 of those
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: record-setting week one points were or by the Bears against
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: the Panthers, what did you think were the biggest issues
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: in that game for the Panthers' defense? And do you
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: look at that, Sean, and feel like, oh crap, this
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: might not be the improved unit that we thought it
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: would be when they signed Phillips and Lloyd? Or would
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: you tell us to relax a little bit about this defense?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: It's hard because I think Ben Johnson is the best
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: offensive play caller in the NFL.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: At the same time, even if you're.
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: Playing the best offensive play caller in the NFL every
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: single week, 59.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Points is a whole lot of points.
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: So I'm not going to tell people here that you
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: should feel great about any of that. I do think
• 18:29
  Speaker 8: the bears are kind of uniquely suited to deal with
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: this kind of defense that you're ever wants to play
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: where we can get more tight ends on the field.
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: We can force you to put more people closer to
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: the offensive line of scrimmage. And Hey, now we can
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: make explosive throws over you. And I mean, Caleb was
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: also escaping and making a bunch of plays off schedule, which,
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: you know, you're hoping that you're, yes, you're going to
• 18:47
  Speaker 8: see that one more time this year. You're hoping not
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: to see that every single week. So I think we've
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: seen over a few years now where it feels like, Hey,
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: there's parts of this defense that are maybe an issue.
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: I will say Lee Hunter up front, the rookie, he
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: impressed me when I was watching. So let's all hold
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: on to our Lee Hunter stocks. I'm going to give
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: it a little bit more time. Certainly just because seeing
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: what Jalen Phillips did in Philadelphia was, was really, really good.
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: Seeing Bobby O'Kerrick. Hey, make some plays to the giants
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: last year. It was like, all right, that's been a good.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Spot, but they were all in a bind.
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: So a team that still has, you know, cornerbacks, I
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: think you feel quite good about let's see, you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: if you're able to change up your approach a little
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: bit as the season goes on.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: How much do you think the other day was a
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Vero based with scheme? How much of was execution? Where
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: does the truth lie and where we figure out where
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: things went the most wrong?
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: Well, it has to be both where players have to
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: be held accountable for, Hey, you're getting beat in one-on-one
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: type situations. And then also you got to look at, Hey,
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: is there a way for maybe the coach to put
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: a player in just a little bit of a different situation?
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: So one of the things that the bear the Panthers
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: were doing a lot is rolling one of their safeties
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: down further into the box. So you're playing a coverage
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: where you only have one high safety and that it
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: just makes your life harder as a, as a defense.
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: So teams that are able to keep two eye safeties back,
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: you know, it's a little bit better against past coverage and,
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: it might be a little bit worse off against the run.
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: You have to really trust guys up front to be
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: able to deal with that. So it's, it's, it's, it's
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: tough overall, but I think it, you know, it starts
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: to end with the defensive coordinator, certainly. And I'll, again,
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: I'll get it just a little bit more time, just
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: because as you mentioned, you have new pieces. So handmade,
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: Maybe can these guys fit together? You're hoping to get,
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: you know, the quarterback holds the ball on a little
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: bit longer. You'll finish some of those plays. And I mean, hey,
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: your offense team keeps scoring points like that. Then hopefully
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: you have an easier time.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. I will say this. It wasn't 59-10.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: The offense put up 37 themselves. And Bryce Young played amazing.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: And it really looks like Coker, if he could stay healthy,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: joins TMAC and makes a really good duo. What do
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: you think about the Panthers' offense? Like, could there be
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: a jump?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: From this Panthers offense and Bryce Young this year, what
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: do you think?
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: I was pretty excited from what I saw. And look,
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: I am not going to pretend like I'm someone that's
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: been pounding the table for Bryce Young. I'm not going
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: to pretend like that because I haven't been like that.
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: And I think in that week one game, he showed
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: a really nice touch on his deep ball. He showed
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: the ability to create under pressure. And those are two
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: things that when you look across the league at quarterbacks
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: that make this jump, you know, are they like return
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: to form? Like Daniel Jones for the first half of
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: last season, Baker Mason for the first half of last season,
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: Sam Donald over the years, it's like deep throw accuracy
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: and dealing with pressure are two huge things. So I'd
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: love to see Bryce continue to do that. And as
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: you mentioned, you know, two of those big throws, I
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: think more than that go to Jalen Coker. And yeah,
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: like we're all in.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: A deal and Coker, please get healthy Jalen as quick
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: as possible.
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: And I think having Coker and team, our federal McMullen
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: in where you can attack the defense in different ways, inside, outside,
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: over the middle, deep, that's really good.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: And I do think some credit.
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: Just deserves with this offensive line where it does feel like, Hey,
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: this is an offensive line that probably enough people haven't
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: been talking about over the last few seasons. You get consistent,
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: solid play at multiple spots that raises the floor. And
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: I was pretty impressed with Brad. I was talking about Brad,
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: his dad works for the shot. And I was like, Hey, like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: you know, like what, what's the situation here? Like, why
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: is Kyle doing? And he's like, no, I think Brad's ready.
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: And yeah, I would say that about my son too,
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: if I had one, but no, I gotta tell him, Hey,
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: I think you're right. Like he did really feel like
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: he was up in the challenge. So yeah, I'm glad
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: we can take away a silver lining from that game
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: because as you mentioned, rough one on the defensive end,
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: but I was pretty impressed by the offense for sure.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: And this one, what did you like about the way
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: that is it called the game and how he handled it?
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: And with that, what do you think is most sustainable
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: from the out in the other day?
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: I think allowing Bryce to be a little bit versatile where, Hey,
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: sometimes we are going to get condensed. We're going to
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: run inside. Sometimes we are going to spread it out.
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: So understanding that we have all these different kinds of
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: ways we can attack are able to get 125 yards
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: on the ground. So if you can be multiple to
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: I mean, that is really the biggest thing. It's like
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: in the NFL. Now you can't just do one thing
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: over and over and over again, unless you're better than
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: everyone at every single spot. And no team is like
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: that right now. So I like feeling like, Hey, there
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: are a bunch of tools that you could actually turn
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: to where in the past and maybe felt like in
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: my head, okay, just spread Bryce out all the time,
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: but then you're not able to kind of run inside sometimes.
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: So it felt like, I think it did probably understand, Hey,
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: we actually do now have talent at multiple spots and
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: we can find different ways to attack the defense.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: We're talking to Sean Syed. Check out Summersports.com. Great website
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: for people that want more information, more stats. What are
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: the trends, you know, in terms of man and zone
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: coverage and, you know, pressure percentage, blitz rate, all these stats.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: It's a great, you know, website for stats and making
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: yourself a smarter fan. Let's move forward to this game
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: because our texters are begging us to move forward on
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: this Thursday to focus on week two and not relive
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: week one.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Falcons a little bit.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: They lose 20 to 13 in a game that was
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: the complete opposite of the type of game the Panthers
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: and the Bears played. Kevin Stefanski literally says, I got
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: four quarterbacks. I'm not ruling out any of them. It
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: kind of feels like it's most likely to be Cooper Rush.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: What do you think about this Atlanta Falcons team? The
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: quarterback situation is a mess. We hate them, so we're biased,
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: but we've been kind of feeling like all summer they're
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: going to have a hideous season, Sean. What do you
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: think about this Falcons team?
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: I also think that they're looking directly at a pretty
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: hideous season. I'm very glad that the Panthers get to
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: play the Falcons team going into week two. It feels
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: like if this is an offense that you can't just
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: close the door on. Yes.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I understand.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: It's on the road.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: It's a division rival.
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: Of course, it's going to be a close game. They'll
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: probably put up some points. Like this is really like a, Hey,
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: if you're not doing it here, then we're going to,
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: we're going to have to have some discussions because when
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: you're a quarterback, it's just like a, a really like
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: a replacement level player at that point. That's just a
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: tough thing. I will say B John Robinson, as everyone knows,
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: is still awesome. So he can single-handedly, you know, get
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: you five or six explosive plays. He was able to
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: do that against the Pittsburgh Steelers, but Yeah. I mean,
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: if you're, if you're passing off into not able to
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: really do much, like you're not having to deal with
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: a Caleb Williams running around in the same way, just
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: feels like a situation where like, if this doesn't go
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: your way, then like you start, you start off going to,
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: you have the, Oh, this is how many teams have
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: made the playoffs when they start. Oh, and two, and
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: then it's off to go in that direction. So this
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: is a situation where I feel like, Hey, the Panthers
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: are favorites in this game. They absolutely should be favorites
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: in this game.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: You know, the thousand pass them. You have some fun
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: stuff going on in defense for sure. I don't want
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: to pretend like they're just going to roll over their
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: professional football team. But it feels like, Hey, I need
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: to see improvement on the defensive end here because you
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: should just looking at everything going on.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Sean, do you have a theory why league wide, the
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: offenses look so far ahead of the defenses for once
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: the first week of the season?
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: So I think that Catherine was really bad across the
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: NFL this, this week. The easiest one we saw was
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: the Broncos defense had like the third highest in his
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: tackle rate of all time, or like in the last
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: five years against the, the chief.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: And so I, I don't know if I necessarily say, oh.
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: Well, like people aren't playing in preseason. Therefore they're missing tackles.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: I'm not sure if like, I can't draw that line
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: a hundred percent just because I think there's so many
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: climbing factors. I thought that was a really big deal.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: We see more teams getting under center now at a
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: higher rate. It's like, I've got like 10 percentage points.
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: We see more teams getting an extra tight end on
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: the field. So you're finding ways to create explosive play.
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: So it feels like, Hey, the defense is, is maybe
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: a little bit behind the offense in that week one.
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: So over time, a lot of times these, these things
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: do tend to even out. So I love overreacting in
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: week one. I'm already, I'm already hanging up the banner
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: for all the things that I got right in the
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: off season. But it feels like, okay, if, if the
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: tackling across the league is going to continue to be
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: a problem, then as an offense, I'm like, Oh man,
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: like this is, this is a good place to be in.
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: Cause you're drawing a play at the end of in
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: five yard completions. Now we're getting 50 yard games. That's
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: just such a nice place to be in.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. People love offense.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: I don't know if it's a bad thing, but I
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: would like to see, I would like to see our
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: defense here in town. Get below 50, man. Get below,
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: maybe below 40. Sean Sy at Sumer Sports.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: So the last question I want to ask you, I'm
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: just curious what you think about a couple of decisions
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Kellen Moore made.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: In that Saints-Lions game. I am glad it played out
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the way it did.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: It allows us to say we're in first place because
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: every team in the South lost this week, but the
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: Saints were close. It went to overtime. They chose to
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: not take the ball, Kellen Moore did, right? And he
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: said afterwards, I wanted to know, what do we need?
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: A field goal, touchdown? What do we need when we
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: get the ball? But then, when they scored with a
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: minute 34 left, he didn't want to tie it because
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: then the only team that's probably going to get the
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: ball in the final minute, minute 34, is Detroit, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: they could beat you with a field goal. Then he
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: goes for two and tries to win it. And then
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: they lose a game. And we talked about this yesterday.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: We believe a tie in this division is a good result,
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: probably that they may have cost themselves in this division
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: by not just taking the tie. What did you think
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: of those two decisions in the overtime?
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I get in fights with.
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: My brothers about this all the time about situations like this.
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: So the question going into overtime, do I want the
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: ball first? Do I want the ball second? That has
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: shown to be a little bit of the team that
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: scores first, the most optimal decision is take the extra point.
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: If you're the team that scores second, the optimal decision
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: on the numbers is to go for two.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: You have the information advantage.
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: You know exactly how much you have.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: You can win.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Now, you make a phenomenal, extremely interesting point that I.
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: Would never have considered that, yeah, a tie kind of
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: might be really good in this division.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I think, though.
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: If we were in week 16, then I think he
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: looks at it and says, okay, I know if we
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: tie here, this kind of counts as just like a
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: win based on how everything goes. I think it's too
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: hard in week one. And honestly, as a fan base,
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: I would much prefer my head coach like, hey, if
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: we're going to go down, we're going to go down
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: swinging here. I think the Saints probably lead that game
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: looking at, hey, if we're able to get second half
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: power shot going, whatever. the rest of the way, this
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: can be a positive situation. So if you get the
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: ball first guy, I think that's point gets the ball. Second,
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: got to go for two, just because as you mentioned,
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: you know, now this other team has the ball last
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: and you're not going to be able to get the,
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: the situation to have it. I'm fine with that. I
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: kind of hope now that in week 17, you guys
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: can be like, remember the guy that came on a week,
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: one wasn't idiot. If they tied the game, they would've
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: made the playoffs. So I'm kind of rooting for that situation,
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: but I, I, it's hard for me to, to advocate
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: for a post to look for a tie in the NFL.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you week 17.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: That, that eight, eight and one that eight 81 could
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: have won the division.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Now they're going to take an eight and nine. I
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: bet it costs them voting.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: All right, Sean, we appreciate you talking ball with us, man.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: We can tell you love it. And again, for people
• 29:55
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• 30:01
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• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Sean. Appreciate it, man.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Thanks so much, guys.
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: Appreciate it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Be good.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: That's Sean Syed from Sumer Sports. We go from one
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• 30:47
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• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Mack, can you spell Aloysius? A-L-O-W-I-S-H-I-O-S.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: What?
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: That's all I got for you, man. That's a hard one.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: I can't even type it into Google to come up.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I got a better chance of getting Krzyzewski right. Gotta
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: be honest with you, man.
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: Did want to take a quick look at the MLB
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: scoreboard from last night. Max Orioles complete a sweep of
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: my Mets.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Take that broom, Fetty. Let me shove that broom where
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the sun don't shine. Settle down over there, Mac. They
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: beat the Mets 7-1.
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: The Cubs, they lose to the Braves.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: 8-4.
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: And, Bowen, I'm trying to find.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yesterday's Yankee result. Well, that was ugly.
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: They lost to the Twins 5-4 in a game where
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: Aaron Judge got removed from the game in the middle
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: of a bat?
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had right leg tightness. He got taken out yesterday.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: The Yankees had the bases loaded. Nobody out in one
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: of the extra innings. They couldn't get a run in.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: That's a shame. Yeah. I'm doing Jerry Seinfeld eating popcorn
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: right now. Interesting note here from Josh Pate on LSU
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Ole Miss. Sam Leavitt listed as doubtful last night by LSU.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: The point spread has not changed. That means the starting
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: quarterback is doubtful and no one's buying it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: The betters ain't buying it. Vegas ain't buying it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Keith Hamill said today, per sources, Ole Miss does not
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: buy in at all to the doubtful status. They're like,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: we know you, Lane. We know we can't trust you.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: We come back in the Mac and Bone show. It's
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: the Panther Fan Roundtable. Granny Pat and the man that
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: goes by DVR Dave. They'll debate next. Sports Radio 92.7.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Stand and cheer for the Panthers. Stand and cheer for
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the team. The pride of both Carolina.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: And city of the Queen.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Carolina!
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Stand and cheer for the Panthers. What a grand old song.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: What a beautiful classic.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: Mack and Bone with you. It's time for the Panther
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: Fan Roundtable. All right, Panther fans are asking on the
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: text line to move on.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: We will see, Bone.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: We will see if these two esteemed Panther fans come
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: with the vibes, Bone, that they are not bothered by
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: the 59 points anymore and they're ready to rock and roll,
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: or are they going to urge... freak out and panic
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: on the streets of Charlotte.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: We urge on this show calmness and clarity. That's why
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: we do this roundtable.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: We want the calmest people to be calm with us,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: to be zen.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: That's what we've got right here. And let's start with
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: the calmest lady y'all know, Granny Pat, ladies and gentlemen, back.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: She is the franchise quarterback of the Fan Roundtable. Granny,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: how are you feeling this week?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling good.
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: Now, I know I screwed up last week with what
• 34:00
  Speaker 10: I said, but I honestly believe we're going to beat Atlanta.
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: They're screwed up somehow. They're quarterbacks. Now, I could, I like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: what is it, Stefanski?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: He's a hunk of burning love.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: My God. Granny.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I don't look at him and think he looks that good.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Is it the beard, Granny?
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: He's rough and gruff, but that's about the point. I
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: hate Atlanta.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I hate them.
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: Since Matt Ryan told us to get the hell off
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: the field, I hate them.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Is that what drew Marvin to you, the rough and gruffness?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: One day I'm going to tell you what happened one
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: night at Freedom Park and a cop knocked on the window. Okay,
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: go ahead.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Cop knocked on the window. Hold on a minute now.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: I feel like each week, Bone, we get another layer
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: of the Freedom Park story. Yeah, just keep it there.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Don't say anything else.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: Next week, if you're on or the next time you're on,
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: we'll get another layer of what happened after the knock
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: on the window. All right, let's bring in DVR Dave.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: He is joining Granny Pat on the Panther Fan Roundtable.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: DVR Dave, are you ready, man?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Now, that's how you tell a story. You put it
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: out in just the little pieces so they keep having
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: to come back and hear more.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Granny is brilliant. She is brilliant. What's up, Dave?
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: Hey, guys.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: No, I'm good. I actually received two letters from the
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Carolina Reaper last week. I will read them to you
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: whenever you are ready.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Two letters. It wasn't a restraining order, was it?
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: That was the third one. We don't talk about the
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: third one.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll read the first one from
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the Carolina Reaper to the Panthers fans. Dear Carolina Panthers fans,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Sunday's game against the Bears was not the disaster you
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: think it was. Yes, we lost. But the Panthers scored
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: 37 points, which would have been enough to beat all
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: but four teams across the entire NFL last Sunday. We
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: just happened to play against the Bears, who, for the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: first time in franchise history, may have discovered how to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: field a high-scoring offense. If you think back just a
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: few days, we practiced against what is arguably the number
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: one defense in the entire NFL, who, according to observers,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: beat the Panthers like a rented duel. We do not
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: see them again this year. And that number one defense
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: did not beat the bills, mainly because the bills also
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: put up a lot of points, but still only 36.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: The Panthers would have won that shootout. It is safe
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: to say that very few of the offenses we face
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: this year will be that good.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Dave, who wrote this letter? His alter ego, the Carolina.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I thought someone wrote this to you. No, he, it's
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: his alter ego. I thought like an inmate or something
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: in the jail, wrote you a letter. And then you read,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I didn't know what's going on. All right, let's get Granny.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Hold that. Much like Granny's story. Yeah, we got a pause.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Hold that for next week. We got a pause. Man,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: he wrote a novel.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: That ain't a letter. That's a damn novel. Granny, what
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: did you think of Dave's letter there to the fan base?
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: You buying any of that?
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: I think it was pretty damn good so far. If
• 36:57
  Speaker 10: you let him finish, it was good.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Do you think Granny... Oh, you weren't awake, Granny. Granny,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: are you.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Granny ran out to get more shine during that lettering.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Granny went to Freedom Park.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: During that story.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: I got it, though.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: Granny, so you think we're beating the Falcons, but are
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: you bothered by the defense? Like, are you mad at
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: Ajiro Vero? Are you mad at Prince? Like, no, you're not?
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: No.
• 37:23
  Speaker 10: And, you know, really, if we all think about it,
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: at the end of the first half, I looked at
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: Marvin and I said, this is a damn good game.
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: We're playing good. So the first half was okay. It's
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: just the second half they lost it. I don't blame
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: the coach. Did he sack at all or try to blitz?
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: Did he blitz?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: They did. They blitzed about 54% of the time, but
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: nothing worked.
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: I didn't notice it. It didn't work.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Neither approach worked. Blitzen not sending people didn't work. Nothing worked.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: Then they tried to drop the edges back in coverage,
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: and Travis Gibson got beat.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Nothing was working at all.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Dee Hancock says DVR Dave's letter was written with a
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: feather and ink.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: All right, Dave. Dave is getting a lot. But there's
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: one guy. Now, one guy does call DVR Dave a boob.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: That's Panther Dell. But 704 number says, can you guys
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: please get back to the cliffhanger of DVR Dave?
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: He's got a.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Second letter to read here. DVR Dave. I don't think
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: he was still on the first one, though. DVR Dave,
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: pick up where we left off. There's that laugh. There's
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: that laugh that Charlotte loves, man.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: All right, keep reading your letter, Dave. All right, pick
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: up where you left off.
• 38:40
  Speaker 10: Oh, Lord.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Hang on.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I've got to get back to my place here. I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: leave you with two thoughts. One, if the Panthers played
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a high school team every week, they would win, but
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: would anyone care?
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: No.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: They play competitive teams because only in competition can you
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: really take pride in your accomplishments. Number two, the season
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: is not over. Regards, the Carolina Reef.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: All right, there you go. There you go. Bone, you
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: didn't find that captivating. This man's trying to rally a town. Now,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: you said you had a second letter, right? Oh, no.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I do, and it's the one he wrote to the
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bears fans.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Okay. Just got a text from KB. Hold that thought.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Three o'clock today. Live reading of letter two? We're going
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: to tease across all day parts now. I don't know.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a good decision or not, Bone.
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I want him to read letter two.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: All right, so wait.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Houston. Two sentences. One, I was not happy with Prince.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I was not happy with Prince.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: No, you shouldn't be. I mean, he's young. He's young
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and he's got to learn. But that's like.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: That's exactly it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: He was.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: He was what? Third on the depth chart.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he shouldn't have been asked to play
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: that many snaps, right? I mean, that's not what we want.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: He got excited and he lost in pain because he
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: got excited.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's thinking, oh, my God, I'm this close to
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: the quarterback. I'm this close to the quarterback, but they
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: wanted him that close to the quarterback because he left
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: the edge open.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: You interrupted the letter. So now you want to hear
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: the letter. Isn't it kind of interesting? We got to
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: keep Granny awake on the other side. Granny, let's go
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: back to Granny real quick before we get letter two. Granny,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: what are you thinking? Do you want to hear letter.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Two or no?
• 40:13
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I want to hear it because I think it's interesting.
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: Mackie has a good view on fun.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. He's going to write a letter, too,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to the Bears fans.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Granny, I know you were probably drinking Shine in your
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: Shine Palace there.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Up in Mooresville. Shine Palace. Lake Norman, wherever.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: But did you notice on TV how many Bears fans
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: were there?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: It was really a bummer.
• 40:34
  Speaker 10: It was disgusting. It was disgusting. I texted my friend
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: that was there. I said, Teresa, is the Bears fan
• 40:41
  Speaker 10: as bad as I'm hearing it on TV?
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: She said, oh, yeah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: So, I mean, we're just not that great of fans
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: to sell our tickets. It's not loyal.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that pisses you off. It pisses me off, yes.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: All right, there you go. You got the wrath of
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Granny Pat, y'all, if you're selling them tickets. You better not.
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: We settled that. Is the Falcons game an easy game, Granny?
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: It's not easy, but we're going to win. They don't
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: really have a set quarterback. Our quarterback, you know how
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: I feel about him. He did good last week. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: admit the truth. It just so happens the defense got exhausted.
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: I know the other team does, too.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: You don't think Bryce can go off on the Atlanta
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: defense that he's going off on?
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, he can. Hey, Granny, real quick, what do you
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: think about Finney having a girlfriend?
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: Listen, I just told him he better act right and
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: not stupid. She said he'd do that.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Well, this is Fiddy we're talking about. You may be
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: asking for a lot.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: Do you know, Granny, that you have apparently said something
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: like you want her to pass your challenge or test?
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: And apparently Fiddy has asked her, she is down to
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: drink moonshine with Granny Pat the Legend.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Y'all could double date. Y'all could double date or something.
• 42:04
  Speaker 10: We could.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: Then he'll want to leave her for me. I'm just kidding.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: All right, we got Dave selling letter two over here. Oh, shoot,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: letter two. We got to go real quick, though. Do
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: we have time? Do we have time? All right, DVR. Granny,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: you rock. All right, Granny. Thanks, Granny. DVR Dave, what
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: is letter two to the Bears fans?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Letter two to the Bears fans. Dear Chicago Bears fans,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the people that showed up in Carolina Sunday were hands
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: down tied for the nicest fans I've ever met. Your
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Green Bay Sucks poster at the pregame was well-received. It's
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: almost as though your nice fans are the ones you
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: send to away games, and the Twitter trash talkers we
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: contend with so regularly are bot accounts run by bitter people.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on the win, and I look forward to watching
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the highlights of your games the rest of the season
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: as you blow the rest of the NFL out of
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the water.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: What happened?
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: We lost him.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: That was right in the middle of a story. All
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: of a sudden his phone went out? You've got to
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: let the man finish. Oh, the phone went out. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: think his phone just went out in the middle of
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: a story. I can't believe that. A letter was being
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: read and.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I was so impressed. Fitty hung up on him, didn't he?
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: What?
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Did you hang up on the Reaper, Fetty? You better
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: not mess with the Reaper. Hey, he quit during. Oh,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: he's calling back. He quit during.
• 43:09
  Speaker 9: Countdown to kickoff.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: He's quitting on the air. We got to go to
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: break anyway. Sorry, DVR Dave. We got to fix that
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: phone situation, DVR Dave. Yeah, that's what it was.
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: Tell KB and DVR Dave that we want to hear
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: the rest of the letter read.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: At 3 o'clock.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: We come back. Jones Angel, Tar Heel Radio Network.