Latest / Chef's PSA Podcast / My Food Critic Experience Ep. 3
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- 0:01Hello chefs. You're listening to chefs, PSA
- 0:04podcast. I'm your host Entre natera.
- 0:08Today we are going to talk about some experiences, I've had with
- 0:13food critics, what it was like to be cooking for food critics,
- 0:18what the process is in the kitchen, what's going through my
- 0:20mind kind of, you know, the chaos that ensues what were some
- 0:24of the things that I did to hopefully leverage things in my
- 0:28favor. Nonetheless.
- 0:30I know No, a lot of people are interested in that.
- 0:32A lot of people, you know, wonder what it's like to deal
- 0:36with food critic. So today in today's episode,
- 0:39we're going to get into all of that.
- 0:41So, I want to go back to really my first experience with the
- 0:45food critic. I was a chef at a resort, and in
- 0:48Coachella, Indian Wells, California.
- 0:51And that was really the first time that I had really been
- 0:56written about had my name in the newspaper and it was, it was a
- 0:59different feeling. Um there's a lot of stress that
- 1:02goes with that. There's a lot of source of Pride
- 1:05that goes with it at. You know, if they wrote nicely
- 1:07about you, you have this immense sense of Pride, you kind of
- 1:12stick your chest out, you, you puff up a little bit.
- 1:16I didn't get written about much in California but it was just my
- 1:18first introduction to it. So I kind of had an idea for it
- 1:21fast forward. A couple of years later and I am
- 1:24the chef at the pyramid, restaurant inside the Fairmont
- 1:29Hotel in Dallas, Texas and Now, for those people that don't
- 1:31know, the pyramid restaurant for many years, in Dallas was like
- 1:36an iconic restaurant. There's three classic French
- 1:40iconic restaurants in Dallas that have been around forever
- 1:42and that is the Mansion on Turtle Creek, the French room
- 1:47and the pyramid restaurant and so it really didn't matter who
- 1:52was the chef at any of those places.
- 1:54If you were the chef there, you were going to get written about
- 1:58and most likely a food critic would come.
- 2:00So initially right away, I met with my PR manager and they kind
- 2:05of explained to me, hey, we're doing a press release.
- 2:07We're announcing that you're the, the new chef, but you need
- 2:10to be prepared because most likely you're going to get a
- 2:14visit from the food critics from the Dallas Morning News and all
- 2:18the other food Publications. And people that are reviewing
- 2:21restaurants at that time. Actually, before we get started,
- 2:24I want to go back and clarify something.
- 2:26I said the Mansion on Turtle Creek was a French restaurant.
- 2:28It indeed is not a French restaurant.
- 2:30Aunt, when Bruno Dhabi on was there as the executive chef,
- 2:33they were doing French food but when Dean fearing was the chef
- 2:36there, they were doing Southwest Cuisine.
- 2:39So it wasn't always a French restaurant.
- 2:41I think a lot of that is determined by who is the chef?
- 2:44They've just always been known as that to fine dining
- 2:47establishment with in Dallas. So now fast forward the current
- 2:52food critic at the time from the Dallas Morning News was Leslie
- 2:55Brenner and she had a fierce reputation for being really
- 2:58harsh on Chefs. And for what I Remember, I think
- 3:01she had just come from working at the Los Angeles Times.
- 3:04If I'm if I'm correct and I might be wrong on that, but she
- 3:08had a very specific palette. She had very specific
- 3:11expectations for restaurants. And at the time, she was the
- 3:17king banker. And what I mean by that is if
- 3:19she liked you, you were on top. You were, you were going to be a
- 3:22household name in Dallas in the chef community.
- 3:25So she was the kingmaker. So I was a little bit nervous
- 3:27that she was going to come in. Fortunately, for me, Oh, my
- 3:31sommelier at the time, Hunter Hammond, shout out to Hunter, he
- 3:35had waited on her and knew who she was because he had worked
- 3:39previously at fairings under Dean fairing.
- 3:41So he had recognized her and there was pictures floating
- 3:44around of her at the time, because she was really trying to
- 3:46be Incognito, but she had written a book.
- 3:50And I believed her photograph was floating around from that
- 3:54book. So every single chef and every
- 3:56single server and the restaurant had her photograph inside their
- 4:00walls. I made a standard of case, if
- 4:01she shows up, everyone needs to know who she is.
- 4:04Now, she was going in under fake names.
- 4:07So she was never going to make the reservation as Leslie
- 4:10Brenner. She was going to make the
- 4:11reservation as you know, Mary Sue or whatever.
- 4:14So everyone knew what she looked like and they all knew, as soon
- 4:18as she comes in, they needed to alert the kitchen now and The
- 4:20Culinary team. We were on high alert.
- 4:22We always want to know. Okay, if she comes in, what is
- 4:25the plan? And we had a mitigation plan in
- 4:27place and that was, if I happen to be off because Cuz you know
- 4:31the food critics are smart, they're going to try and go on a
- 4:33Sunday when you know, when the head chef is usually off
- 4:36everyone knew, if I am off, you call me.
- 4:38As soon as you recognize her, you call me.
- 4:40I'm going to drop everything and come to the restaurant, so I
- 4:45could make sure that service goes smoothly and that the food
- 4:48is correct. So, we knew that the other thing
- 4:51that we knew is that once we recognized her that the tables
- 4:55around where she was sitting, if no one was sitting there at the
- 4:57time, we work in a mark, those tables with people that we knew.
- 5:03So, for example, she's sitting at a table, the table next to
- 5:06her, we were going to call our friend and say you're sitting
- 5:09right next to her. So you can eavesdrop on
- 5:11everything that she's saying and you're going to text us a
- 5:13play-by-play. So we already had people planted
- 5:17in the restaurant that we're going to sit next to her and
- 5:20Send us the play-by-play. So anyway, long story short, she
- 5:23shows up to the restaurant and Hunter recognizes her wide right
- 5:28away. I happen to be in the restaurant
- 5:29at the time. I'm in the kitchen and they
- 5:32alert me, they say, Hey FYI food critic is in at this table,
- 5:35boom. Now we know we go on high alert
- 5:38and this is a tense situation in the kitchen.
- 5:40This is really my first experience with the food critic,
- 5:42so I'm nervous. I want to make sure that she's
- 5:45happy with our food and at the time.
- 5:48So this is really we pre Instagram and social media and
- 5:51all that I had been working in California and food Trends back
- 5:57then were much quicker on the coasts than they were, you know,
- 6:02in Texas. So people would always say oh
- 6:04California's 5 to 10 years ahead on food Trends than Dallas.
- 6:08Texas is. So having just come from
- 6:10California and having been the chef of one of the better
- 6:13restaurants in the city and getting recognition there.
- 6:16I felt that even though I wasn't top of the Food chain in
- 6:20California. I could take that food and bring
- 6:23it to Dallas and I'd be 5 years ahead of everyone else.
- 6:26So I felt like it was easy to get noticed in Dallas at the
- 6:30time because they were still a little bit behind and I'm not
- 6:32knocking anyone, but it's the truth.
- 6:34They were a little bit behind the times and I could do my old
- 6:36shit from California and people be like, oh my god, I've never
- 6:39seen this before because they hadn't.
- 6:43So now she's in the dining room and everything is going.
- 6:45Well, I go touch the table because obviously I didn't just
- 6:50touch her table because I had to not know who she was.
- 6:52So I touched other tables and just pretended like oh hi.
- 6:55How are you? And I think I was delivering a
- 6:57souffle or something, and she started talking.
- 6:59Oh, are you the chef blah, blah blah.
- 7:01And I said, yes, we happen to have a rooftop garden at the
- 7:03time. So, I was like, oh, would you
- 7:04like a tour of the garden? So, you know, I just moved her
- 7:07and her husband, I don't remember who else was there and
- 7:09I gave him a tour of the garden. She was asking a lot of
- 7:11questions. Now, I know she's the food
- 7:13critic. I'm not sure if she is aware
- 7:15that, I know. But nonetheless, I'm playing the
- 7:17part. I'm calling her by her fake
- 7:19name, even though I know it's a fake name, I'm playing the game,
- 7:23long story short, she came in a couple of times I want to say
- 7:26she came in once or twice and everything went well where I got
- 7:31a great review. Now funny story On one of those
- 7:36visits were she came in. It was a complete disaster.
- 7:41We had run out of pasta and no one said anything.
- 7:43So the pasta was 86 and we forgot to tell the service team.
- 7:48And she happened to order the pasta.
- 7:49So it's like one of those. Oh, shit moments.
- 7:51What do we do? And so the order is n, so
- 7:53there's first second. Third course, the pasta I
- 7:56believe was on the second course and I'm freaking out because you
- 7:58know one of the sous-chefs at the time's comes up to me and
- 8:01says, Chef we're out of pasta and she's ordered.
- 8:04It's like what the fuck do we do?
- 8:06So, I'm panicking. I'm yelling at one of the cooks
- 8:10like you better hurry up and make that pasta and it better be
- 8:12cooked, right? So she's scrambling over there.
- 8:16Making pasta dough, rolling it through the Machine, we get it
- 8:19done. I don't I to this day.
- 8:21I don't know how we got it done, but by the time, the pasta
- 8:24course was fired. We made pasta somehow, you know,
- 8:29divine intervention came in and made the pasta and like I said
- 8:32we had a great review and it was interesting because you know
- 8:35subsequently after that we got a four-star review I was
- 8:40recognized by the Dallas Morning News as one of the best chefs by
- 8:43the Dallas Morning News and that was 2011 and 2012.
- 8:47By belief. So now, within the city, I'm
- 8:51getting a lot of press. So not just from the Dallas
- 8:53Morning News, but from Dallas Modern Luxury, d magazine.
- 8:56I've now ascended to the top of the food chain within the,
- 9:00within the chef community and that market so things are
- 9:03changing for me, you know, now, I'm a hot, commodity people are
- 9:06writing about me, other chefs are stealing my ideas.
- 9:09You know, people are watching what we're doing, Young Chefs
- 9:12want to work for me. I have a line out, the door of
- 9:14people that want to work for me now, so my life has completely
- 9:17changed at this point. So what do you do when you're
- 9:20Successful? By the way, if you're listening
- 9:22to this, remember this advice, what do you do when you're
- 9:24successful, you capitalize on your success and you double
- 9:26down. So I had an opportunity to go be
- 9:28the chef partner of some restaurants in Dallas and lo and
- 9:32behold here, we got the food critic back in and I don't
- 9:38remember exactly what the rule was.
- 9:40Like, they wouldn't review you for six weeks or whatever.
- 9:44But I remember early on it was a tough go round because I had to
- 9:47The turnover, the kitchen staff. Because that's just the way
- 9:51restaurants our new. Chef comes in, most people start
- 9:53quitting, because they were loyal to the old shaft.
- 9:55They don't like change Etc. So I turned over a significant
- 10:00portion of my staff. In addition to that, I have to
- 10:03train new staff on a new style of food.
- 10:05So it's kind of slow to go from what you were doing at the
- 10:10previous restaurant in terms of level of Cuisine to now the new
- 10:13place doing the exact same level.
- 10:14So, you know, you got to take some steps to get there.
- 10:18But I didn't really have time because the expectation is
- 10:20you're a four-star, Chef your, you know, two years consecutive
- 10:24in the best chef Dallas. We expect you to perform at the
- 10:27highest level and I didn't really have enough time to get
- 10:30the kitchen to where I needed it to get to and lo and behold,
- 10:33here comes the food critic. So you know, I thought we had a
- 10:37decent night. I thought we were performing, we
- 10:40used to brine our duck, you know, with pink, curing salt and
- 10:45a lot of other things. But anyway, In the review, I'll
- 10:49never forget this shoe. She wrote that the duck had the
- 10:52taste and texture of a hot dog. I'm assuming it was because of
- 10:55the pink your insults, but it didn't have the taste of a hot
- 11:00dog, it tastes like Duck. But anyway, you know, she beat
- 11:02me up a little bit and and, you know, so I went from a four-star
- 11:07Chef to a three-star chef and I got to admit that was like a
- 11:10huge blow to the ego. So it's like, how are we going
- 11:12to push to four stars that? Like, that's where we wanted to
- 11:16get to. And I'll tell you another thing
- 11:19that was, that was funny in the kitchen.
- 11:21So we have a rule when a food critic came in and and I
- 11:25remember watching the movie burnt and you know, he screams
- 11:28this out, he's like there always needs to be two portions of
- 11:30everything so you got to cook two of everything.
- 11:32And the reason you would do that is because in case you mess one
- 11:35up, like, let's just say you're cooking a steak, let's say your
- 11:38steak is a little bit over, you're going to have another
- 11:40steak ready to go. So if you got to switch it out
- 11:43like Chef sees it. Hey it's, it's supposed to be
- 11:45medium rare, you cooked. At medium great.
- 11:48We have the backup one that's slightly undercooked that we
- 11:50could, we could get it to where it needs to be.
- 11:53So this time, she happened to have ordered a steak and of
- 11:58course, I planted a person next to her table.
- 12:00We're getting the text. In this particular restaurant, I
- 12:02had mirrors, so I was able to watch her the entire time and
- 12:06see what she was doing, what she was eating.
- 12:08And I'm getting play-by-play for my friend that's sitting next to
- 12:10her. What she's eating?
- 12:11What she's saying about the food, blah, blah blah.
- 12:13And by the way, it's a stressful day in the kitchen were busy.
- 12:17So food comes back and you know, we have an expression, you want
- 12:20to see the food coming and going and what that means is that is a
- 12:24very important person in the restaurant.
- 12:25So I am expecting every plate going, and I'm expecting every
- 12:30plate coming back. So she ordered the steak, she
- 12:34sends the steak back. I want to verify that the steak
- 12:37is cooked. And by the way, I don't mean she
- 12:38sent it back to get cooked differently.
- 12:41I mean, like, she's done eating. She wanted it to go which I
- 12:44didn't know. So the server brings the steak
- 12:46back. Has it on a plate me and the
- 12:48sous chef go back there, to check the steak we cut into it.
- 12:51So this is her eaten steak, right?
- 12:53She took a piece out of it, we cut into it, we're not going to
- 12:55eat it. We just kind of want to look and
- 12:56make sure it's cooked correctly because it is the first time,
- 12:59you know, we're seeing inside the steak.
- 13:00So we look at it, we're dicing it up.
- 13:02We're looking to make sure it's perfect and the server comes
- 13:04back and he says, that's supposed to be to go.
- 13:07Now, we're like, oh shit, we just got into her steak and it
- 13:11was supposed to be to go like, what do we do now?
- 13:13Thank God, we had the backup second Cooks, Take so we we cut
- 13:19it like in the same area that she had taken a bite out of it
- 13:23and made it look like it was the original one, but, you know,
- 13:25that was a tense situation. Funny story nonetheless, long
- 13:29story short, new review comes out.
- 13:30It's not as great as the, the first one.
- 13:32So, of course, that's tough on the team.
- 13:34And I think what people don't realize is every Chef is looking
- 13:40for a little bit of that recognition, you know,
- 13:41especially when you're climbing up the ladder and your
- 13:43restaurant and your reputation. Lives and dies off what they're
- 13:48writing about you in the paper. And for people that don't
- 13:51understand this, let me explain to you what it's like like you
- 13:55might get a review from your boss, you sit down and you get a
- 13:57good or a bad review or at home when you were a kid, you get
- 14:00your report card. Well, that's between you the
- 14:02teacher of your parents or you and your boss, right?
- 14:05The difference. When you're being written about
- 14:07in the papers, number one, you didn't ask to be written about
- 14:10in the paper and it's like they're reading your employee
- 14:14review or your Your report card out loud for everyone in the
- 14:20community to see and it's like shit, you know, when it's greats
- 14:24like everyone, everyone loves being the hammer, but no one
- 14:27likes being the nail, it's great when you're on top.
- 14:29It's not so great when when they're writing poorly about
- 14:33you. So obviously that felt like a,
- 14:35you know, it was nonetheless, it was disappointing, long story
- 14:40short, it was disappointing to get a bad review.
- 14:43Now, we've changed Concepts, we're in a different restaurant.
- 14:46We have a restaurant downstairs. We have a restaurant upstairs,
- 14:50she comes in again, we get a bad review again, and it's like, I'm
- 14:55having a bad week, she shows up at the wrong time, she shows up
- 14:58on a Sunday, I'm working service.
- 15:00I actually thought the food went.
- 15:01Well, I was really surprised that she gave us a bad review
- 15:04because I thought this restaurant was better than the
- 15:06one she gave three stars. But anyway, long story short, we
- 15:09get a bad review and now I'm devastated because it's like I
- 15:12went from being a force. Our chef and it's like every
- 15:14review after that seem to only go downhill.
- 15:16So like I said, it's great when you're on top, but when you're
- 15:20on top and if you're not, if you're not careful, you could
- 15:24quickly fall to the bottom. So it was, it was a difficult
- 15:28time for me to to process because a lot of people were
- 15:33saying, oh did he lose it? You know, he's not as good as he
- 15:35used to be you know, blah blah blah.
- 15:37And it was it was one of these tough situations.
- 15:40So Here's what's really interesting about this time is.
- 15:45So the day that I get the bad review from her in the paper.
- 15:49You know we're all bummed out and a couple of my friends from
- 15:53the restaurant decided. Well let's go out drinking and
- 15:55we went to Casa rubia at the time.
- 15:58Chef Omar floors. Had a restaurant called Casa
- 16:01rubia and Omar's a friend. I love Omar were both from the
- 16:04same Hometown and, you know, I want to go eat his food.
- 16:07I went to go eat at his restaurant and so I'm there with
- 16:10the ownership and lo and behold, Old.
- 16:11There's the food critic and like a couple of tables down from
- 16:15from, from where we're sitting and I thought, well, isn't that
- 16:18isn't that a coincidence? You know, here, I'm having like
- 16:20she probably doesn't realize what a bad day I'm having.
- 16:24And there she is. You just, you just destroyed my
- 16:26reputation in the paper and oh we happen to show up at the same
- 16:28restaurant. Anyway, that's neither here.
- 16:30Nor there it did suck but I just thought that was funny so long
- 16:34story but I go through a little bit of, you know sadness like a
- 16:39lot of chefs. Do you know when you're on top?
- 16:41I love it when you're on bottom, it sucks.
- 16:43And yeah, I'm definitely going through a funk and I think some
- 16:47of my friends noticed that I'm going through a funk, but I'll
- 16:50share this story and I'll keep it short.
- 16:53But Chef John taser, who knows pretty well known famous chef in
- 16:59Dallas and he has other restaurants and some Ritz
- 17:02Carlton's across the country, but he's a great chef, he's been
- 17:05on Top Chef, you know, he used to work with Anthony Bourdain.
- 17:08He's a, he's a He's a chef chef and he gets it.
- 17:13Well, anyway, I'm down in the dumps.
- 17:16He happens to show up out of the blue, like, I didn't invite him,
- 17:20he just happened to show up with another friend of mine, and they
- 17:23came into the restaurant. And I'll never forget this
- 17:26because it was great advice. He called me up and he said,
- 17:29hey, let's go upstairs and have a drink.
- 17:30So, you know, the three of us. We went upstairs and had a drink
- 17:34and he says, look, I know you're down in the dumps.
- 17:38I know you just got a bad review, but let me tell you
- 17:40something. I've gotten lots of bad reviews
- 17:43and I'm still here and you're still young in your career.
- 17:46You have plenty of opportunity to rise and fall and rise and
- 17:49fall again. So hey, be sad tonight have some
- 17:53drinks but tomorrow, get back after it.
- 17:56And it was what I needed to hear at the moment especially from,
- 17:59you know, you know, Chef that was older and wiser than me that
- 18:03I respected. So when you're dealing with food
- 18:06critics, I think it's important that you have a plan, know what
- 18:08you're supposed to do know who those food critics are, you
- 18:10know? Maybe the photos are posted on
- 18:13the wall or whatever, do what you do be present, but they're
- 18:18going to write what they write. Whether it's good, whether it's
- 18:20bad. Hopefully it's good because, you
- 18:21know, obviously, good compounds. But if it's bad, remember this.
- 18:27It's just one person's opinion about you and it doesn't Define
- 18:30who you are. You need to learn from it, pick
- 18:34yourself back up, and get back after it.
- 18:36So anyway, that's all for today's rant Chef's.
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