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What Top Supply Chain Leaders Do Differently · Speaking of Supply Chain

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Speaker 1: It's in our DNA.
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Speaker 2: We are supply team people, so we have to think
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Speaker 2: globally and normally when do some the teams from the
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Speaker 2: different geographies, you offer two things. One is your project
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Speaker 2: continues to work throughout the timelines. There is always progress
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Speaker 2: and that's a talent, but it's also a.
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Speaker 1: Really good thing. And also you get many different points
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Speaker 1: of views.
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Speaker 2: Because how things go in the States is different than
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Speaker 2: how they do it in India, different Germany, different Spain,
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Speaker 2: but at saint time they're similar.
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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Speaking of Supply Chain, where mevoc
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Speaker 3: experts from around the world unpacked the real stories, strategies,
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Speaker 3: insights and innovations shaping the future of supply chain. I'm
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Speaker 3: your host, Ellen Wood. Today's conversation is spotlighting two of
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Speaker 3: this year's pros to Know honorees. The pros to Know
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Speaker 3: Award recognizes leaders whose accomplishments provide a roadmap for leveraging
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Speaker 3: supply chain as a competitive advantage. It's an honor that
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Speaker 3: reflects not only individual achievement, but also the impact those
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Speaker 3: leaders have on their teams, clients, and the broader industry.
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Speaker 3: Today I'm joined by Julian Massmann and Naria Alvarez of
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Speaker 3: MEBUK consulting to global leaders driving meaningful transformation in supply
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Speaker 3: chain strategy, digital innovation and operational excellence. From AI Howard
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Speaker 3: planning tools to fully integrated production and network optimization strategies.
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Speaker 3: Their work is helping organizations build smarter, more resilient supply
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Speaker 3: chains for the future. Julian Nia, congratulations on this well
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Speaker 3: deserved recognition and welcome to the show.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thanks as well. It really is
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Speaker 1: a pleasure to be here.
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Speaker 3: So let's start with your current roles. Tell our audience
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Speaker 3: a little bit about what you do day to day,
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Speaker 3: what excites you most about the work that you're leading
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Speaker 3: right now.
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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm the strategy lead for Spain. I'm based
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Speaker 2: in the Madrid office and I also lead the retail
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Speaker 2: industry in a European level, so try to collaborate a
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Speaker 2: lot with the different countries as well as developed or
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Speaker 2: practice within Liberian peninsula. So it's really a challenge lot
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Speaker 2: to do, but really it is something to look forward
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Speaker 2: to every day.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And Julian, tell us a little bit about what
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Speaker 3: you do well.
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Speaker 4: My wall is a quite diverse one, which is something
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Speaker 4: I really like about it. On the one hand, I
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Speaker 4: lead the purses industry within MIVAK Germany with an our
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Speaker 4: German office organization where I work with around forty consultants.
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Speaker 4: They're part of my team. And in addition to that,
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Speaker 4: I'm also responsible for the consumer goods industry within Europe
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Speaker 4: and this is really something what I like a lot
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Speaker 4: as well. And on top of that, and also part
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Speaker 4: of the German Management Board, which pretty much adds another
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Speaker 4: strategic dimension to my day to day work. And I
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Speaker 4: really like the variety of all these different roles combined
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Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, consulting it's very
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Speaker 4: much a people business and that really excites me having
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Speaker 4: the opportunity to work together with many different personalities every day.
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Speaker 3: So one thing about the pros to Know award is
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Speaker 3: that it highlights those who are driving transformation. So what
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Speaker 3: is something a project or an initiative that you've participated
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Speaker 3: in led recently that you feel best represents your impact
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Speaker 3: in this space.
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Speaker 4: One project that really stands out right now is a
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Speaker 4: large transformation program I'm currently supporting with a multinational client
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Speaker 4: at the beginning of twenty twenty five. We work closely
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Speaker 4: with this client to define several strategic initiatives that will
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Speaker 4: say shaped there you've been supply chain going forward. At
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Speaker 4: that time, it was really about set the direction, defining
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Speaker 4: the TARP operating model, key transformation leavers, and a lot
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Speaker 4: lots aligning that within their organization. And now we are
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Speaker 4: fully in the implementation phase and mebus for supporting the
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Speaker 4: clients quite extensively across the different work streams and in particular, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: there's a great impact we have and the goal is
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Speaker 4: really to build a future ready supply chain, more automated,
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Speaker 4: more cost efficient, more service oriented, and also less dependent
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Speaker 4: on the parties. And this is really what I'm enjoying.
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Speaker 4: And the collaboration with the client team is also something
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Speaker 4: which is great. The fantastic team, and there was a
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Speaker 4: large momentum in the organization and everyone is really putting
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Speaker 4: in the same direction and that makes it really enjoyable.
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Speaker 3: I think those large transformation projects are really interesting just
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Speaker 3: because of the scope and the breadth of the work
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Speaker 3: that you get to do with with the customer. With
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Speaker 3: the client, it's not just a little one off like here,
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Speaker 3: let's let's design a network for you, or you know,
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Speaker 3: here's here's the facility designed for this. This piece of
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Speaker 3: your your supply chain. When we have these transformational projects
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Speaker 3: again where you start from the very beginning and all
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Speaker 3: the way through the implementation of those concepts and details,
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Speaker 3: you know, you really get to see how the industry
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Speaker 3: works and can be facilitated to that optimal and ideal
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Speaker 3: situation and help the client achieve something that you know
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Speaker 3: they they may have been able to do a little
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Speaker 3: bit on their own, but to really feel like we've
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Speaker 3: supported them and helped them achieve something bigger.
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Speaker 2: As a team, I would say, I'm quite proud of
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Speaker 2: a couple of things going on in your team. One
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Speaker 2: of them is that the percentage of women in consulting
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Speaker 2: is growing considerably, and I think that that has a
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Speaker 2: lot to do with having a woman leader. And I
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Speaker 2: think that that was something that concerned me when I
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Speaker 2: first started at ME in fact, that there wasn't that
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Speaker 2: many women leader. And I have seen a total switch
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Speaker 2: in the last couple of years, and I think we're
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Speaker 2: attracting really good talent and it gives a good path
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Speaker 2: forward to all of those that will come afterwards because
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Speaker 2: they see that they have an opportunity, they see that
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Speaker 2: there is an ample room to grow, and I think
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Speaker 2: the talent that we are able to fish out of
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Speaker 2: other either consultancies or even the industry. It's really really
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Speaker 2: making a difference. So I'm very proud of that. Also,
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Speaker 2: throughout the last year, I think we've done a huge
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Speaker 2: jump into the use of AI in our everyday work.
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Speaker 3: We have.
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Speaker 2: Seen how the team starts to use it as not
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Speaker 2: only you know, help me rewrite this email or take
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Speaker 2: the notes for me in a meeting, which is more
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Speaker 2: of the usual stuff that we do, but in gathering
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Speaker 2: the knowledge that we have within mea back which is
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Speaker 2: a lot, and being able to give better results.
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Speaker 1: To our customers.
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Speaker 2: For instance, we're working really large hout so this is
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Speaker 2: a multi country, very global forma project, and one of
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Speaker 2: the challenges was that we were talking with people from
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Speaker 2: around the world, many different people, many different countries, even
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Speaker 2: from different origins, which is always a challenge. English is
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Speaker 2: not your primary language, and we used it to really
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Speaker 2: give them a target operating model. So we uploaded all
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Speaker 2: of our knowledge into the tool. We uploaded all of
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Speaker 2: the interviews. We were able to really make a difference
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Speaker 2: and synthesize something that will have taken a lot of
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Speaker 2: work and time to do and because this was a
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Speaker 2: big success. It's a practice that we now have in
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Speaker 2: most of the assessments that we do for the different customers.
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Speaker 2: Of course, depending on the type of project we're working,
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Speaker 2: uploading the knowledge, which is the challenge part right normally
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Speaker 2: it's in people's heads.
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Speaker 1: And the same as we tell our customers you have.
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Speaker 2: To digitalize your knowledge, we are working and doing that,
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Speaker 2: and as we do that, we start to create a
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Speaker 2: process that allows us to be more efficient.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's key in.
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Speaker 2: The future because the expectation out in the market is
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Speaker 2: that we do the same things better faster, so we
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Speaker 2: have to be up and I think we're on the
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Speaker 2: right path to do that. So I'm quite happy that
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Speaker 2: we're we're there in there.
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Speaker 3: I love that your focus is not just on the customer,
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Speaker 3: but also on improving our teams internally. To your point
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Speaker 3: about you know, building the teams and building the capabilities
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Speaker 3: and you know, making space at the table for women
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Speaker 3: in an industry where women are not historically uh dominant,
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Speaker 3: and making that because these these are changes that are
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Speaker 3: benefiting our clients in the end, making sure that we
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Speaker 3: have the right people on the team and and not
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Speaker 3: just the people that we've always had on the team.
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Speaker 3: That's that's an interesting perspective that you've really taken on
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Speaker 3: in your goal.
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Speaker 2: Well, if you look at it also, if we counted
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Speaker 2: the nationalities that we have, it is also quite quite
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Speaker 2: a challenge. I think we we have in a team
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Speaker 2: of I think in the strategies last Digital work twenty
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Speaker 2: people and then maybe like eight nationalities at least, and
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Speaker 2: I think as we do a really good job of
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Speaker 2: working with the other countries, I think the collaboration is
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Speaker 2: super important in this end.
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Speaker 3: I agree that is one thing that Mibak does very
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Speaker 3: well is making sure that we have a global presence
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Speaker 3: and the knowledge sharing to your to your points earlier,
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Speaker 3: that we're putting this knowledge and making it available to
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Speaker 3: all of our team around the world, and not keeping
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Speaker 3: that information compartmentalized into one office so that Spain or
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Speaker 3: Germany is able to do something that maybe the US
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Speaker 3: doesn't have access to.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: We we all work together as a team every day,
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Speaker 3: and I think that is that is one distinctive thing
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Speaker 3: about our company that is very beneficial to our clients.
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Speaker 3: What do you think this award means to you? Does
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Speaker 3: it reflect the journey that you've been on in your career.
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Speaker 3: Do you do you view it as a now a
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Speaker 3: responsibility to hold that that kind of notoriety on your teams,
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Speaker 3: to say, hey, there's there's excellence here and we're proving it.
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Speaker 3: Now it's time for you know, everyone else to step up.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's of course great, great feeling to receive an
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Speaker 4: award like this and always something special to get recognition.
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Speaker 4: But I think it's also a reward for for all
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Speaker 4: the teams and for all of me, all of the
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Speaker 4: Mibach and the world there we we every time we
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Speaker 4: work together in teams uh uh in project, and I
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Speaker 4: think this is pretty much an award for all of us.
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Speaker 4: I mean Nulia and myself we received it this year,
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Speaker 4: but I think that's quite important to say. And yeah,
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Speaker 4: for me, it's definitely an honor, but it also somehow
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Speaker 4: reminds me to keep pushing forward, staying few years and
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Speaker 4: and also try to really become still better and better
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Speaker 4: every day. That that's really what's driving me and it's
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Speaker 4: my ambition. And again recognition is always something and it's
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Speaker 4: really nice to see the work and dedication to be
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Speaker 4: reflected in that way. Happy to have with reward, I.
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Speaker 2: Think it's threefold, right, I've I was just looking at
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Speaker 2: the calendar and I've been pretty much thirty years in
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Speaker 2: supply chain, so thirty years in this world. And funny enough,
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Speaker 2: my road started in the States working at a warehouse,
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Speaker 2: so it started while I was quite young, but living
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Speaker 2: it from the inside out. So I do think it's
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Speaker 2: a recognition for thirty years of career. I think it's
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Speaker 2: also recognition of our team, because without everybody else that
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Speaker 2: works with us, it's it's impossible.
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Speaker 1: We alone don't do anything.
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Speaker 2: It's it's our teams, it's it's everybody together that get this.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's recognition to them as well. And
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Speaker 2: I also think that it's a prestige to share with
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Speaker 2: our customers, so they see that the people that they
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Speaker 2: work with have a high work ethic, have a drive
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Speaker 2: to always try to be better. And in a way
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Speaker 2: it's also you know, like you put your back back
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Speaker 2: and you have to now you have to carry it,
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Speaker 2: and you have to keep up and you have to
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Speaker 2: maintain the standards.
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Speaker 1: So it's also kind of a check to hey, you
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Speaker 1: have to be up to the task.
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Speaker 2: So I see it as a you know, a great recognition,
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Speaker 2: but at the same time, Hey, stay up to it
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Speaker 2: and show your customers thank your team.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's all together.
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Speaker 3: It raises the bar for all of our teams. Once
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Speaker 3: we have this distinction that we've we've got our colleagues.
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Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned that both of you are this
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Speaker 3: year's winners, but we've had previous winners in previous years,
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Speaker 3: and we will continue to nominate our team for this
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Speaker 3: distinction because I think it really is a great indicator
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Speaker 3: of the dedication that we put to the work that
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Speaker 3: we do. And both of you had mentioned, you know,
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Speaker 3: working across geographies, different cultures, working with teams across the globe,
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Speaker 3: how does that affect or shake the way that you
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Speaker 3: approach and solve these challenges for our clients.
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Speaker 2: My work history has always been quite global, so I
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Speaker 2: don't understand the world any other way. I think that
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Speaker 2: pre much in supply chain, you have to have that view.
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Speaker 2: If you stay local, you really could have very narrow mind.
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Speaker 2: So these global projects and our approach to them, it's
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Speaker 2: one of the reasons I came to me back. Really
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Speaker 2: it's that we don't work regionally, that we work globally,
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Speaker 2: and we truly do this collaboration across the globe, and
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Speaker 2: we have several examples. I think Julian and I have
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Speaker 2: coincided in one or two projects. But this is something
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Speaker 2: that it's in our DNA. I mean, we are supplying people,
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Speaker 2: so we have to think globally and normally. When do
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Speaker 2: some of the teams from the different geographies, you offer
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Speaker 2: two things. One is your project continues to work throughout
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Speaker 2: the timelines, so there is always progress and that's a challenge,
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Speaker 2: but it's also a really good thing. And also you
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Speaker 2: get many different points of views because how things go
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Speaker 2: in the States is different than how they do it
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Speaker 2: in India, different Germany, different in Spain, but at the
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Speaker 2: same time they're similar, so we get a chance to
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Speaker 2: get the best of each So I think it's just
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Speaker 2: a way to go.
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Speaker 4: No, fully agree to all what Noria has said. I
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Speaker 4: mean I have fifteen years in supply chain and also
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Speaker 4: fifteen years with Mibach. I mean, not thirty years yet,
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Speaker 4: Nudia as you have.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that just shows my gray hair.
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Speaker 4: Right hair is already a bit very as well, so
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Speaker 4: don't very. But I get there for sure as well.
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Speaker 4: And I also had the luck actually to work three
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Speaker 4: years in Middle East for Mebach, which was certainly also
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Speaker 4: helping me from an intercultural point of view. This is
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Speaker 4: certainly different culture there, but also very valuable culture and
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Speaker 4: very valuable customers and Nudia. You mentioned a lot around
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Speaker 4: the collaboration within mebach twenty six office locations, more than
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Speaker 4: twenty countries we are present in. That's indeed true. So
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Speaker 4: there is a lot of collaboration also with different cultures. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: even within an office with the same nationalities, you make
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Speaker 4: different cultures, yeah, totally want to say. But in addition
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Speaker 4: to that, what is also the case that at our
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Speaker 4: customers in transformation projects there are also many many different
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Speaker 4: countries and backgrounds, and really understanding how these people work,
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Speaker 4: communicating with them, making decisions in different cultures. This makes
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Speaker 4: also big differences. But this is also, I believe, how
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Speaker 4: successful projects move forward. So we have really both. We
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Speaker 4: have the internal view and Mibach is well known to
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Speaker 4: be a very diverse company with a lot of cultures,
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Speaker 4: a lot of countries, a lot of nationalities. But we
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Speaker 4: see in this at the same time meanwhile our customers
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Speaker 4: as well, and this makes really on both sides collaboration.
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Speaker 4: It's just an experience.
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking.
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Speaker 2: Just today, I think I've spoken with people from five offices,
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Speaker 2: from Middle East, from Belgium, Germany, the United States, and
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Speaker 2: of course Spain. So just one day and you think
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Speaker 2: about that, that's quite something for just you know, it's
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Speaker 2: what for thirty PM, So we do quite a walk
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Speaker 2: around the world every day.
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Speaker 3: Well exactly, And I can say I've already spoken sport
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Speaker 3: I mean two at the moment, but for this today,
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Speaker 3: and it's only you know, ten thirty my time. So
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Speaker 3: I agree, that's one unique thing about our organization. But
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Speaker 3: another one is the way that we train and the
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Speaker 3: way that we onboard people and bring them and help
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Speaker 3: them achieve their own professional and career goals. So what
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Speaker 3: advice would you give to rising professionals in this space,
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Speaker 3: especially those who are you know, trying to figure out
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Speaker 3: supply chain today, which we've already established. We've all been
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Speaker 3: in supply chain for a while. I've been here ten years,
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Speaker 3: we've got fifteen and thirty. That's you know, quite a
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Speaker 3: career span. You know, Supply chains have changed so much
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Speaker 3: just in that amount of time. I can tell from
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Speaker 3: my perspective of only being with me back for ten years,
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Speaker 3: so much has changed. So how do you encourage the
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Speaker 3: up and coming younger professionals in your teams and your offices.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a very interesting question, Alan, thanks
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Speaker 4: for asking that. I think if I would really give
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Speaker 4: one piece of advice for young professionals, for wising professionals
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Speaker 4: in supply chain, it's really stake cures and keep learning.
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Speaker 4: This field is evolving incredibly faster. We have automation, we
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Speaker 4: have digitization, we have II I mean resilient sustainability. These
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Speaker 4: are not all buffwords in supply chain. These are reality
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Speaker 4: and supply chain and they're becoming more and more important
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Speaker 4: in a very very dynamic way. So I think this
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Speaker 4: mindset of always willing to learn to adapt to probably yeah,
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Speaker 4: do things which are not leading to success, but then
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Speaker 4: stand up again and try it again, try something else.
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Speaker 4: I think this is extremely important. Are and this is
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Speaker 4: really what I would like to advise people to do.
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Speaker 4: And then there is most probably one other think what
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Speaker 4: I would like to advise young people, and this is
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Speaker 4: really seek feedback. Ask for feedback. I mean getting input
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Speaker 4: from the people around you you work with, understand where
20:27
Speaker 4: you still need to develop or where you can improve.
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Speaker 4: This is really something what shapes leaders in future, that
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Speaker 4: they ask for this feedback, that they do it in
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Speaker 4: a proactive way to get really an honest reflection, because
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Speaker 4: hearing things what went well, what you have done well
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Speaker 4: is always great are but the thinks which really makes
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Speaker 4: you growing are those things where you get also a
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Speaker 4: feedback where you can improve and develop. And this is
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Speaker 4: I think also some think which is really important. And
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Speaker 4: I really encourage young professionals to seek this feedback on
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Speaker 4: a way base from the managers, from the customers, from
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Speaker 4: everyone they work with. So so in nutshell, I would
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Speaker 4: really say stay cur years, stay open to new challenges,
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Speaker 4: and focus simply on continuous improvement because this will really
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Speaker 4: make you better and make you grow in your career.
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Speaker 3: That's excellent, Maria, What about you? What advice would you give?
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Speaker 2: Recently we had a few younger people come as interns
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Speaker 2: into the office and I think I've told them three things,
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Speaker 2: and a couple of them coincide with what Julian said.
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Speaker 2: One of them was to stay curious, to ask questions,
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Speaker 2: to really have hunger for knowledge, because I believe that
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Speaker 2: working with us is pretty much the best master you're
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Speaker 2: ever going to do.
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Speaker 1: You're going to learn super fast.
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Speaker 2: And also I think that if you are the type
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Speaker 2: the like to learn and like to grow, this is
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Speaker 2: the best I mean, it's project, it's customer, it's a
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Speaker 2: solution that you have to come up with. It makes
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Speaker 2: you think, if you're curious and if you, you know,
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Speaker 2: want to continue to grow, the best environment is this.
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Speaker 2: You will not get bored. That is guaranteed. And there's
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Speaker 2: always a challenge because even as I feel that every day,
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Speaker 2: as you get into a new industry and into a
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Speaker 2: new customer or even dealing with different people, you continue
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Speaker 2: to learn.
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Speaker 1: So for those people that that's the aim.
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Speaker 2: And I think younger people, most of them have that
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Speaker 2: objective note to continue to grow and acquire knowledge.
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's the best way to do it
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Speaker 1: than that.
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Speaker 2: So if not for some of the ones that come
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Speaker 2: in and I see that they are super fast and
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Speaker 2: really you know, they like the challenges, and after a while,
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Speaker 2: I tell you, oh, I'm thinking I may go into
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Speaker 2: the industry. And I always tell them you last two
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Speaker 2: year stops, six six months to learn, six months to
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Speaker 2: change when you're to stabilize, and then you're dead and
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Speaker 2: you're going to want to go back.
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Speaker 1: And most of the time. It's true so interesting.
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Speaker 3: What would you say a mindset or a skill that
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Speaker 3: you've learned over your career that has helped you grow
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Speaker 3: the most.
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Speaker 4: I think it's really so. What I tell young professionals
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Speaker 4: within MIBAG as well is when they joined the company
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Speaker 4: is really building a network within our company who you
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Speaker 4: need to ask Because there's one unique thing about Meva.
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Speaker 4: If there is anything in supply chain where you need
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Speaker 4: an answer for, there is this one person in Meva
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Speaker 4: who can help you out. It's just a matter of
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Speaker 4: who you need to ask. So I think this is
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Speaker 4: really important. I mean when we talk about consultancy as such,
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Speaker 4: we always talk about networking is important. You need to
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Speaker 4: connect with people, you need to be a thought leader,
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Speaker 4: and so on and so forth. But I think building
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Speaker 4: up a network within Niebach really helps. I mean, because
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Speaker 4: we have so many professionals, so many experts, which are
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Speaker 4: very very unique knowledge which is accessible within our organization,
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Speaker 4: which makes us also a very strong organization. But this
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Speaker 4: is something I'm also telling young young colleagues. I mean,
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Speaker 4: make sure you come to the office, speak to the people,
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Speaker 4: get to know them, understand what their skill set is,
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Speaker 4: and over time it will be just a benefit for you,
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Speaker 4: and it will be also mutual benefit because you will
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Speaker 4: also build up your nowhow become a specialist in certain areas,
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Speaker 4: and then it's a mutual benefit to exchange information with
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Speaker 4: this people. And this makes also consulting life easier because
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Speaker 4: we have so much knowledge in our company that we
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Speaker 4: do not require external fme we have to hire, we
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Speaker 4: have to call in for projects because the knowledge is
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Speaker 4: all there. It's just a matter of how to access
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Speaker 4: it and how to get it that I don't know
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Speaker 4: really what your experience is here because you joined us
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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, because it is my experience
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Speaker 4: when I started, no.
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Speaker 1: I totally agree. You just have to know who to go.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a Challenge's you know that there's somebody.
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Speaker 2: You may take you a couple of calls to get
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Speaker 2: to the person, but otherwise you always have and normally
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Speaker 2: that you have a person to call, but that most
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Speaker 2: people are available for that call. I mean, and it
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter whether it's our CEO or whether it's a
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Speaker 2: coworker that is in the same office.
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Speaker 1: People are available and that's great. And I reach out all.
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Speaker 2: The time for certain things to just cross ideas. I
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Speaker 2: think I also one of the things for this younger
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Speaker 2: talent is to challenge, right, to not be scared to
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Speaker 2: challenge when somebody says something, to question things, to ask,
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Speaker 2: because that is first it puts us in check because
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Speaker 2: sometimes they have a different point of view, and then
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Speaker 2: because it makes them think further. Don't take everything for it.
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Speaker 2: Don't take things for printed. So even if you have
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Speaker 2: any kind of doubt, question it, ask for it, challenge it,
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Speaker 2: and have initiative. I think the initiative is I see,
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Speaker 2: of course technology is more innate as you're younger, right,
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Speaker 2: because it's been part of your life, and they rapidly
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Speaker 2: go and search and look for information and they try
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Speaker 2: to solve it themselves. And I always tell them, hey,
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Speaker 2: this is great, have that initiative and then cross check
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Speaker 2: it with somebody else to ensure that, you know, you
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Speaker 2: don't just fit yourself with whatever. So both I think
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Speaker 2: the combination of both is the networking, the that the
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Speaker 2: really that that edge, and that the stitch you know
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Speaker 2: it it is you want to to get it out.
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Speaker 1: I think that's really really good.
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Speaker 3: Well, and what I hear from both of you, I
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Speaker 3: think is applicable to not just me Boch. I mean,
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Speaker 3: obviously we feel that way because we've we've worked here
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Speaker 3: and we love the company, but also for for anyone
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Speaker 3: else out there in the industry, I want to believe
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Speaker 3: that you know, other companies have this this tribal knowledge.
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Speaker 3: To Julian's point that you know there's there's individuals who
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Speaker 3: have the expertise already in your organization. If you're not
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Speaker 3: looking for them and and you're not finding them, then
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Speaker 3: maybe to your point in area, you need to become
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Speaker 3: that person who has that specialized knowledge and who is
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Speaker 3: the person who who questions the status quo and make
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Speaker 3: sure that the company is continuing to have you know,
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Speaker 3: the best information and and the best team working with
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Speaker 3: you know, within their four walls to achieve the goals.
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Speaker 3: I think that's some great career advice that is applicable
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Speaker 3: across multiple companies and multiple industries, and I think that
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Speaker 3: that will we'll definitely resonate with our listeners.
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Speaker 1: Agreed totally.
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Speaker 3: Thank you both Nuria and Julian for sharing your insights
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Speaker 3: and experiences today. Your leadership, innovation, and commitment to delivering
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Speaker 3: measurable value truly embody what the pros to know award represents.
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Speaker 3: It's so inspiring just hear how you are shaping the
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Speaker 3: future of supply chain through the digital transformation and AI
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Speaker 3: strategic thinking and by empowering the teams around you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ellen, and it was great to have this opportunity,
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Speaker 2: really and to have even a time to chat and
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Speaker 2: to think outside of the projects and outside of every day.
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Speaker 1: So it's really a pleasure to be here and to
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Speaker 1: share these minutes.
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Speaker 4: Likewise, Ellen, Maria, pleasure that I've been here and for
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Speaker 4: this nice conversation for our listeners.
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