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Bonus Episode: Arthur Smith Bringing New Approach To Ohio State Offense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, it is time for another bonus episode. As
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  Speaker 1: I said on the last one, we have more good
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  Speaker 1: stuff than we have time to put it out on
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  Speaker 1: our traditional publication schedule. So you're getting some extra shows
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  Speaker 1: between now and the start of the football season, and
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest, probably during the football season as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, you fillow this under good problems to have.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the things that Ohio State is going
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  Speaker 1: to have in terms of a new face this year,
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  Speaker 1: it is offensive coordinator Arthur Smith. He is bringing more
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  Speaker 1: than just a reputation and a resume of NFL success
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  Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator a head coach. He also brings
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  Speaker 1: some new ideas to the Ohio State offense, Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: locker room, Ohio State facility. So he's in a new places,
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of new players coming to a place
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  Speaker 1: where there's some uncertainty. What is that like to make
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  Speaker 1: that kind of adjustment?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there's always unknown any new job,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously even if you're returning a receivers, things are
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  Speaker 2: going to come up, right though, it's kind of life.
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  Speaker 2: These guys have been awesome, you know, the progress we've
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  Speaker 2: known from spring, how we started camp and we just
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  Speaker 2: got to keep sapping these days and on. These guys
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  Speaker 2: are competing and we've got a lot of depth and
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  Speaker 2: then we got a lot of competitions, which is an
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  Speaker 2: awesome thing to have.
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  Speaker 1: Arthur Smith has been in the pros for quite a
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  Speaker 1: while and if you listened to the previous Bonus episode
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  Speaker 1: of Matt Patricia, you heard Matt Patricia talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: his experience and adjusting from the pro level to the
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  Speaker 1: college level. One of the adjustments that you kind of
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  Speaker 1: make when you make that adjustment is you've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different pieces. You got bigger rosters, you got
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  Speaker 1: more different skill sets, maybe some more diverse skill sets,
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  Speaker 1: lots of possibilities there. So does that maybe give you
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  Speaker 1: the ability to get creative with everything you can do?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first off, we have an awesome staff and our players,
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're very smart.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you want to do multiple.
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  Speaker 2: Things, I mean, that's always a fine line, is how
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  Speaker 2: much you know you've got to get good.
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  Speaker 3: It's something.
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  Speaker 2: But then we're able to use players in different spots
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  Speaker 2: and you get this kind of competition and you know,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have many mental errors and that's usually as
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  Speaker 2: sign as you go to the camp about how much
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  Speaker 2: you put in. You know, you're just watching every day
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  Speaker 2: in assessing it, like, hey, do we need to pull back?
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  Speaker 3: And that has not been the case with these guys.
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State is still trying to nail down exactly who
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  Speaker 1: is going to be part of that starting offensive line
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  Speaker 1: for that first game of the season. Is that something
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  Speaker 1: they typically want to have locked down sooner rather than later.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it goes back. I mean, I feel this across
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  Speaker 3: the board.
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  Speaker 2: We got a lot of guys that can play, and
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  Speaker 2: then things come up. I mean, you know you want
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  Speaker 2: the same five, you know when you because that chemistry,
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  Speaker 2: that certainly every coach's goal. But you got to have
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  Speaker 2: contingency plans and you're playing a long season, the same
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  Speaker 2: thing as the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to have depth.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got a guys nicked up here and there,
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  Speaker 2: so they missing practice as an opportunity for another guy
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  Speaker 2: or a guy to show that he could play multiple positions.
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  Speaker 2: But there's been very impressed, especially on the inside, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, guys have been moving around.
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  Speaker 3: It said great cop dish everywhere. You know, we kind
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  Speaker 3: of with the veteran.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, you had with some of the older guys or
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  Speaker 2: guys that they have missed the spring, you know, Josh,
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  Speaker 2: Jake Cook and Gabe I mean those guys too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I don't want to forget about them. So
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  Speaker 3: it's it's been cool to see.
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  Speaker 1: We told you over the weekend that Austin Seerveld has
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  Speaker 1: been banged up and missed a little bit of practice.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing to be concerned about, but he has just missed
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of time. But he's expected to be
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  Speaker 1: back earlier in early this week. He started at left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: you remember last year, now repping some at right guard
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  Speaker 1: this this fall. So what has Austin Cereveld shown to
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  Speaker 1: Arthur Smith there?
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  Speaker 2: It just depends on it shakes out. You know, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna put your best five. That's a credit to Austin.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's really a guy that I see as
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  Speaker 2: a four position player, you know, inside and out, I
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  Speaker 2: mean not so and that's that's kind of rare yea
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  Speaker 2: and you have that kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Versatility, and that's a credit down. But you know it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to shake out, you know how you want
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  Speaker 3: to put your best five.
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  Speaker 1: In recent years, Arthur Smith has been working with quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. Now he's working with
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  Speaker 1: Julian Saying and well, Julian Saying is very, very talented,
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  Speaker 1: obviously not quite the veteran that those other two guys are.
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  Speaker 1: So what has Arthur Smith seen from Julian Saying just
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  Speaker 1: in terms of growth since he first got to Columbus
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  Speaker 1: this winter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he continued to impress. You know, he doesn't feel
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  Speaker 2: like a young player to me because he sees the
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  Speaker 2: game so well.
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  Speaker 3: He understands football. He's so smart.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes I have to pull him back. You'd be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: so everybody else catch up to you. You know, you talk
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  Speaker 2: about one thing and he's ready to. But that's a
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  Speaker 2: great problem to have. Super impressed with him. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he understands how to play quarterback and understands the game.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that Julian Saying mentioned when we
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  Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to him about a week
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  Speaker 1: ago was that when he will be able to get
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  Speaker 1: to the line with a couple plays and then the
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  Speaker 1: ability to decide which of those to run. So that's great.
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  Speaker 1: That gives you the opportunity to put yourself in a
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  Speaker 1: winning play pretty much every time. But does that also
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  Speaker 1: mean you need to be able to get to play
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  Speaker 1: in quicker than you would have otherwise to allow him
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  Speaker 1: to get to the line with the time to make
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  Speaker 1: that decision and then communicate it out.
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  Speaker 2: And that's always the thing, is that operation is key.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care at any level if you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: all logistics. You know, when you're subbing guys in and out,
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  Speaker 2: or you know a guy comes out like, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to be clean because that you know, once they put
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  Speaker 2: that ball down, they want that play clock quick, and
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  Speaker 2: we want to be clean operating and you want to
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  Speaker 2: be able to change up the pace and sometimes tempo
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  Speaker 2: is on the ball and then you know, cadence is
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  Speaker 2: a weapon you just people have. I mean everybody's got
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  Speaker 2: the same analytics or they can use AI now or
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is. They have the same numbers. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're consistently snapping one out what you're doing, you're just
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  Speaker 2: snapping the ball at two seconds, those guys are going
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  Speaker 2: to pend their yearbacks or one.
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  Speaker 3: You're late in the shot clock every time. So that's
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  Speaker 3: a game. You got to study yourself and be able
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  Speaker 3: to Those are games within the games.
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  Speaker 2: So when you have a quarterbacks like doing him he
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  Speaker 2: can handle that off and really the whole offense.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's everybody got to operate. And they're trying
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  Speaker 2: to do the same thing. On defense. I mean they're
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  Speaker 2: doing that, you know, certain formation. They may check out
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  Speaker 2: of a pressure and they may check to this coverage
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  Speaker 2: depending on what you're playing.
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  Speaker 3: And those are the games. I call them the games
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  Speaker 3: within the games that.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much happening, a lot of scrimmage, even if
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to be simple, I mean the other side,
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  Speaker 2: I mean they catch up too, and so that's that's
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  Speaker 2: what makes Julian unique.
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  Speaker 1: The Running back Room has been a big topic of conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and it feels like at least four different guys in
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  Speaker 1: there have been somewhat the main character of some of
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  Speaker 1: these conversations at different points this fall. So what are
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  Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's impressions of what he's working with there in
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  Speaker 1: the running back room?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, another another Presison's got a lot of death and
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  Speaker 2: I think competition brings out the best and everybody, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Baul and Isaiah really went out to the spring.
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  Speaker 3: Those guys a good job, you know, Jacobe.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a there's a lot of talent in
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  Speaker 2: that room. And you know boat experience last years. Kobe's
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  Speaker 2: played a lot of big time football, Isaiah's had a
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  Speaker 2: heck of off season. We'll sit on shakes out, but
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  Speaker 2: I do think competition brings the best it even if
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  Speaker 2: you're returning starter. You know, it gives you that edge,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what you want to see across the board.
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  Speaker 1: When you move from coaching pros to coaching college players,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things. Obviously, the college players
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  Speaker 1: a lot younger. They don't have quite the freedom, They've
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  Speaker 1: got other stuff they got to do, or they're not
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  Speaker 1: just full time professional football players like the NFL guys are.
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  Speaker 1: So how much does that change what you're able to
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  Speaker 1: do and how you do it.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly the perspective, and it's certain the guys that you know,
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  Speaker 2: you forget because we had all these guys in mid
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  Speaker 2: year they were really high school seniorss.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you forget how young they are, and so
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  Speaker 3: you just slow things down.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's some different nuances and rules that are different,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, the way I might have called things
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  Speaker 2: in the past, I mean, you just adapt because nothing
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  Speaker 2: more important to me than it's not about me or
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  Speaker 2: any other coaches. Those guys that players are players. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can change up your teaching methods, but you're always
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  Speaker 2: looking at that year to year.
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  Speaker 1: Arthur Smith has had some really really special running backs
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  Speaker 1: under his coaching career. Derek Henry, you may remember from Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: He was a pretty darn good one. When you have
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  Speaker 1: a truly elite running back like that, is that a
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  Speaker 1: security blanket for a coach.
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  Speaker 2: I think years are different, but certainly if you and
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  Speaker 2: your building, you know, around the strength of your team,
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  Speaker 2: you know, pick part.
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  Speaker 3: In Tennessee it was obviously Derek.
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  Speaker 2: Derek is a once in a generation player. I mean
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  Speaker 2: amount of carries he has, I guess he's still not
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  Speaker 2: slowing down. I mean that's just unheard of. When you
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  Speaker 2: get to a long season. You know, even Derek couldn't
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  Speaker 2: take five hundred plus carriages, you know, if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to play sixteen seventeen games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you need to have depth, certainly.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's guys that ride that become the main
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  Speaker 2: the main guy that happens, and then it is a
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  Speaker 2: long season and something happens, You've got to have somebody
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  Speaker 2: to be able to step in.
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  Speaker 3: And they got to have confidence. The team's gonna have confidence,
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  Speaker 3: Jeff is critically important.
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  Speaker 1: That mentioned earlier, some of the names that Arthur Smith
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  Speaker 1: has had at the quarterback position over the years, those
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  Speaker 1: guys were veterans who had played obviously a ton of
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  Speaker 1: football at the college and pro level, but maybe were
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  Speaker 1: who were new to him and his approach and his offense.
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  Speaker 1: So has that adjustment communicating with those guys to who
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  Speaker 1: had maybe didn't know his offense as well, has that
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  Speaker 1: helped inform his approach with Julian saying this year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I've had three guys that you know, probably
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  Speaker 2: cold jacket players, Aaron and Ross Matt Ryan. Is that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all kind of guys are different boys in
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  Speaker 2: their careers. And what that experience has taught me. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, odd times pro football you get guys that
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  Speaker 2: get on these long runs in the same play caller
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  Speaker 2: and quarterback, and I've had to adapt and.
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  Speaker 3: It's been really good for me.
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  Speaker 2: And just you don't assume anything because everybody sees the
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  Speaker 2: game and everybody's different, so it's not like one size
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  Speaker 2: fits alls, and that experience he has helped me a ton,
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  Speaker 2: and really across the board players anything with tight ends
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  Speaker 2: or lineman backs wide out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, comparison's easy. You know, there's certain things.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they'll mind you a player, but they're all their
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  Speaker 2: own unique you know, personality, there's a way they see things.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, when you were an offensive coach, what is
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  Speaker 1: job one? Job one is to get the ball in
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  Speaker 1: your best player's hands. So when you have Derek Henry
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  Speaker 1: iss your running back, you should have hand the ball
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  Speaker 1: to Derrick Henry quite a bit. They can note twenty
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  Speaker 1: fourteen Alabama offensive coordinator in the Sugar Bowl. All right,
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  Speaker 1: but when is this a receiver like Jeremiah Smith and
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  Speaker 1: it's not just handing the ball to a running back.
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  Speaker 1: Is that maybe a little bit of a different kind
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  Speaker 1: of challenge. You get the ball to your best player
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  Speaker 1: as much as you want, for.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, and that's what exists. Challenge fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's like that, you know, I don't he's such an
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  Speaker 2: unique player and that's that's that's what you're trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: Is but it's not just you know, it's amazin you know,
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  Speaker 2: like like like we've got to get our best player
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  Speaker 2: at the ball.
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  Speaker 3: There's no question about that. Because you can change the.
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  Speaker 2: Game on any play on the wather, it's a deep
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  Speaker 2: shot or anything underneath. Be such a unique player and
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  Speaker 2: certainly that changes your thinking here. But we have other
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  Speaker 2: talented players too. But yes, I mean that's the old
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  Speaker 2: atagude in the end, keep trying to get the build
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  Speaker 2: a round your best player and get your best players involved.
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  Speaker 1: All right, There you go a little bit from Arthur Smith,
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  Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator at Ohio State. It's been really fun
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  Speaker 1: having Arthur Smith and Matt Patricia both as the coordinators.
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  Speaker 1: Think they've had some interesting stuff to say during these
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  Speaker 1: interview sessions and want to let you guys hear from
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  Speaker 1: them before the season starts. You sort of get a
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  Speaker 1: sense for their personalities, what they're bringing, what they're thinking,
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  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. So we want more
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