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Blame it on Your Ex (RHOC Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cambridge Edge.
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  Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas in
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  Speaker 2: a Pod, But this time I am missing another tea
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  Speaker 2: and I have my new co host for the Real
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  Speaker 2: Housewives of Orange County, Alexia and Napola. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I am so excited for our first time.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm so happy to be here. As some people know,
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  Speaker 3: I am in Paris, so I am doing the podcast
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  Speaker 3: right here for my hotel room in Paris.
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  Speaker 2: You know what that is a flex as I'm sitting
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  Speaker 2: here in Encino and it's one hundred degrees and my
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  Speaker 2: air conditioning's not working. Alexia is in Paris, but before
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  Speaker 2: you were in Paris, you were in Madrid, And of
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  Speaker 2: course I'm gonna have to ask you this straight up, god,
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  Speaker 2: or I'm not going to answer it. Well, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to a little bit. I saw that you insinuated
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  Speaker 2: that you had brought Todd to Madrid and he's tagged
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  Speaker 2: in a photo.
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  Speaker 3: Well that that was not an insinuation at all, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, Like, what was it because I tagged him
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  Speaker 3: that he was with me in Madrid. If that would
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  Speaker 3: have been the case, you would have seen that as well.
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  Speaker 3: The case was that I'm eating a club sandwich and
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  Speaker 3: we would always eat clip sandwiches there, and I tagged
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  Speaker 3: him because it was like his favorite club sandwich. That's exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So it was just you were just flirting.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I don't even really consider that flirting.
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  Speaker 3: I just consider it like we talked about, like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: make sure you have the club sandwich while you're there.
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  Speaker 3: So I did. I took a picture of it, and
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  Speaker 3: I tagged him so he can see how beautiful it
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  Speaker 3: was and how tasty it was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think, you know what, I'm still going
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  Speaker 2: to go off the fact that Todd was in Madrid.
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  Speaker 3: You could know he's not in the Drid and he's
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  Speaker 3: not in Paris. This is a solo euro Tree and
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  Speaker 3: I have a lot of friends in Madrid, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: in Paris with one of my best friends, Johnny, and
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  Speaker 3: then I'm gonna continue to London Croatia.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll see. We'll see about that. We'll
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  Speaker 2: see when his head pops out of the bathroom door
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  Speaker 2: behind you, it's not oh my gosh, Okay, well we'll
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  Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see, she said.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think a club soundwich was never gonna make
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  Speaker 3: it to page six, and apparently I did, just because
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  Speaker 3: I tagged them.
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  Speaker 2: Well the no what else has made it to page
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  Speaker 2: six non stop? The picture of Larsa and Teresa photoshopped.
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  Speaker 2: There are in more countries than you are now at
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  Speaker 2: this point.
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  Speaker 3: Like I saw that, and I saw the Marisol wanted
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  Speaker 3: to add herself to to the fund and she added
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  Speaker 3: her picture as well, with like a big butt that
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  Speaker 3: she's never had.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't notice that part. She added
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  Speaker 2: a butt she gave herself.
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  Speaker 3: That's not Marissol's butt. Like I've known Marissol for twenty
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  Speaker 3: something years. She's never had that butt.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe she got a VPL while you were gone or
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  Speaker 2: BPL or what is it called BBL.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was like an old photo of hers,
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  Speaker 3: and I guess the she photoshopped it too, So what
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  Speaker 3: would you photoshop? I guess she would photoshop a butt
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  Speaker 3: on herself. Listen, I photoshop and that's not her butt.
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  Speaker 3: That's never been her butt.
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  Speaker 2: My butt's a chicken butt. It just looks like too.
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  Speaker 2: But well, thank you. Well, I'm excited to have you here.
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  Speaker 2: As everybody knows, that listens to Tucciese and a pod
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  Speaker 2: Tamra is not able to discuss Real Housewives of Orange County.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that we're in a fight. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean that we're not doing the pod together anymore. It's
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  Speaker 2: that Alexia is coming and filling in and going to
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  Speaker 2: give all of her hot takes on Orange County, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excited about because she has strong opinions and
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  Speaker 2: I hope sometimes they don't mesh with mine because I
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  Speaker 2: think that will keep this even.
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  Speaker 3: That's what's going to make it fun. And I love
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  Speaker 3: that you clarify that you and Tama are okay, because
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we have to be explaining ourselves like
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  Speaker 3: every minute, right, Yeah, they're gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Be like Teddy didn't like it, so and so happens,
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  Speaker 2: and now it's no. Every time one of us is
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  Speaker 2: on vacation or something happens, they're like, they broke up.
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  Speaker 2: They're in the biggest fight ever. The podcast is over.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm visiting my family, like, calm down. But
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna start off the pod with the headline that
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  Speaker 2: Shannon Budoor was on Jeff Lewis Live, which I don't
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  Speaker 2: know have you done Jeff Lewis, No, I haven't, so
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  Speaker 2: anytime you go on Jeffrey's Live.
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  Speaker 3: Friends, right, Jeff Lewis and Shannon are good friends.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and they are good friends, but she essentially talks
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  Speaker 2: about She revealed new details about the timeline of Alexis
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  Speaker 2: Bellino's romance with John Janssen, which we got to know
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  Speaker 2: Alexis for the first time when we all went to
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  Speaker 2: go see we should be saying Janet Jackson, but I
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: just say Nelly at this point because well, I stopped
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  Speaker 2: remembering after Nelly. But but she said we had broken
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  Speaker 2: up and then they started dating about six weeks after
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  Speaker 2: we broke up, and then the show started filming, and
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  Speaker 2: I think they'd been dating about a month and a
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  Speaker 2: half two months at that time, so it was a
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  Speaker 2: new relationship. So no, it wasn't fun, but I got
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  Speaker 2: through it, so you'll have to tune in. Then she
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  Speaker 2: says she's a friend. Let's be clear, she's a friend.
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  Speaker 2: She's not holding an orange, Shannon stated. Then, after it
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  Speaker 2: was noted that Alexis had posted a photo of herself
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  Speaker 2: with the rest of the women, Shannon said, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if this means anything, but let's take her out
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  Speaker 2: because she was never in the flipping picture. Who's in
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  Speaker 2: the ciner? That would be me? It's so thirsty, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that. Shannon's friend Vicki, also
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  Speaker 2: posted a cast photo with her cell photoshopped in it.
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  Speaker 3: So and I know that that's what the women do.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think Maraison, Nijohn and Katy
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  Speaker 3: did that. No, that you shouldn't do that, But even
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  Speaker 3: I was allowed to do that.
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  Speaker 2: No, they but the point being, and listen, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: taking sides here at this point of the season. But
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  Speaker 2: I was told that fans are the one that put
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  Speaker 2: Alexis in the photo, and Alexis just shared it versus
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  Speaker 2: her putting herself in there.
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  Speaker 3: But they actually do it, or whether they're fans, whether
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  Speaker 3: you know the fans did it, It wasn't Bravo.
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  Speaker 2: You know how sometimes they'll film this, they'll take pictures
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  Speaker 2: of us all separately because everyone's fighting, and then put
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  Speaker 2: us all in No, she was at that photo shoot.
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  Speaker 2: She is in the silver dress. But a fan made
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  Speaker 2: that picture tagged Alexis, and then Alexa shared it. But
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  Speaker 2: then Shannon was saying how thirsty it was that Alexis
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  Speaker 2: did that, but a fan did it, but also so
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  Speaker 2: did VICKI H So, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, listen, if you're trying to be funny
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  Speaker 2: and you're poking fun at yourself, I'm photoshop yourself into
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want. Like I photoshopped Caroline Stanbury's face under
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  Speaker 2: my pregnant body because she's in all this drama right
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  Speaker 2: now about not wanting to get pregnant. I'm like, you
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  Speaker 2: can have mine because I'm being I'm making a joke
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  Speaker 2: of the situation, but when you're I don't know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: weird about that. I also am weird about like people
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  Speaker 2: calling themselves iconic or queen or any of those things.
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  Speaker 3: So what about star? I called myself a star.
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually weird about that too, right, But I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think you're a star, but you needed to tell me.
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  Speaker 2: It's slightly concerning.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I was being funny too, but I guess
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  Speaker 3: will under the context. But yeah, it was just like
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  Speaker 3: a crazy moment that I had. But I feel that
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  Speaker 3: Alexis was just really resharing, like what fans do you know?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that she did it to
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  Speaker 3: bother Shannon. But she did it, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, But I don't think that she I don't think regardless,
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  Speaker 2: I liked my time with Alexis. Do I think she's
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  Speaker 2: doing things to intentionally bother Shannon?
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  Speaker 3: Sure?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, of course. Do you know what you're
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  Speaker 2: doing right? And you can make a choice. You could
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  Speaker 2: you could privately be entering a relationship if you're coming
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  Speaker 2: into a new show and not. But no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's all over the place. And we just saw online
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  Speaker 2: that they're shopping for engagement rings.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's really crazy. I mean, how do you know that,
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  Speaker 3: like this is a guy after such a short period
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  Speaker 3: of time. But I mean, remember she told us they
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  Speaker 3: have sex how many times? More times a day than
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  Speaker 3: Larsus says.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like four or fun times a day. She said, listen,
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  Speaker 5: I'm good four to five times a month. But then
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  Speaker 5: Shannon said she's currently friends with some people. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think I should say who, because there's stuff that happens,
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  Speaker 5: especially in the first episode that's really really nice. So
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  Speaker 5: let's just put this away. I'm friendly with some of
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  Speaker 5: the cast and then some I don't speak to it all,
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  Speaker 5: she explained, I am curious, who would you guess that
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  Speaker 5: Shannon's close with right now?
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm, well, not worth maybe.
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  Speaker 3: I mean closest is a strong word, so I mean
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  Speaker 3: at this point, maybe after her season, she's close to
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  Speaker 3: a few people. But in the beginning, which is what
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  Speaker 3: we saw episode one, it's kind of like she's on
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  Speaker 3: her own. It's like it's all about her. It's like
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  Speaker 3: everybody against her. Like that's that's what I sensed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and honestly made me feel a little bit uncomfortable because
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  Speaker 3: it was like a lot. She's dealing with so many
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  Speaker 3: different issues, and they're really personal issues. You know, she's
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  Speaker 3: talking about like her ex boyfriend that she was with
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  Speaker 3: for three years, she's talking about her children, a dui.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's a lot. I mean I
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  Speaker 3: felt I really felt bad for her, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: And what are your thoughts about? You know, something that
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  Speaker 2: I've seen online in different places is that people are
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  Speaker 2: coming from both directions. One are coming for the women
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  Speaker 2: are terrible that they're you know, throwing this in her face.
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  Speaker 2: But then there's also people saying she chose to do
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  Speaker 2: the show after this happened. You know it's going to happen, right,
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  Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts on that, like, do you say,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we all know that when we sign
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  Speaker 2: up to do these kind of shows, we know what
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  Speaker 2: it's about. So we you know, we've grown like thick skin,
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  Speaker 2: and we know that we have to tell her story
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  Speaker 2: because that's what we're there for and what we're getting
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  Speaker 2: paid for. And she seems to be okay with doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I have, you know, haven't watched her before
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  Speaker 2: in the other season, so I don't know if she's
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  Speaker 2: always been a very like genuine and authentic person where
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: she opens up and she's shared a lot about her life.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the hard part is last season there
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  Speaker 2: was multiple times where they broke the fourth wall and
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: it's her yelling at production that she's not doing this.
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  Speaker 2: So her relationship last year was kind of coming undone,
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: and then the other women were kind of calling her
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  Speaker 2: out on in a camera because she was having off
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  Speaker 2: camera conversations and then on camera she was like things
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  Speaker 2: are great, and you know that starts to rub people
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  Speaker 2: the wrong way, right, and then maybe allegedly she wouldn't
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: remember these conversations, and then it would just became a
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  Speaker 2: whole big game of telephone and that was essentially last season,
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  Speaker 2: and then ten days after the reunion is when she
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: got the DUI. I had previously thought that her and
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: John Jansen had gone out together and she they got
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: in a fight out, but apparently what I've been told
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  Speaker 2: is that she was already drinking in a situation, went
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  Speaker 2: over to John Jansen's house, they got into a fight,
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  Speaker 2: and he told her not to drive, and then she
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: drove home. That's when she crashed into the house.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's that's what I've heard as well, which
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  Speaker 3: I think makes sense. I mean, you know, she just
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: had broken up with her her boyfriend after all this time,
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  Speaker 3: and it had that kind of relationship, and we also
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  Speaker 3: know she drinks and she likes to drink, and just
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  Speaker 3: like just everything mounted up where the where she showed
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  Speaker 3: up at his house and it's not the first time
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  Speaker 3: that you know, he an ext wife or an next
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  Speaker 3: girlfriend or whatnot shows up at the guy's house and
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  Speaker 3: they get into an argument and she's drinking, and unfortunately
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  Speaker 3: she took off her new car and she had an accident.
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  Speaker 3: She could have, you know, hurt someone and she hurt
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  Speaker 3: herself as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because then we see her showing Heather
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  Speaker 2: a bloody photo of her face, which we hadn't seen
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  Speaker 2: prior to this, we had only seen her in the sling.
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  Speaker 2: There was like a photo of her walking into her house,
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  Speaker 2: I think with John Jansen, and it was her coming
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  Speaker 2: from the hospital. But then they kind of get into
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: a conversation where there it's now five months later, they're
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: filming Orange County. Shannon meets up with Emily and says
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: she's been working on herself. She's just been making some
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  Speaker 2: poor decisions. She's too drink max person. And then Emily
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  Speaker 2: wonders if sobriety should be an option, but Shannon says
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't drink that often. Here's here's my issue. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to come down on Shannon too hard.
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  Speaker 2: Do I drink too much sometimes? One million percent?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of people don't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think if you say you don't drink
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  Speaker 2: too much most of the time, it means that you
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  Speaker 2: do have some sort of a problem. Like I can
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  Speaker 2: openly admit, like, oh yeah, if I'm in a bad
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  Speaker 2: place and I drink too much, I'm a shit show.
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  Speaker 2: Or if I'm in a good mood i drink too much,
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  Speaker 2: I'm the most fun.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So that's what I was gonna say. I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna say, you have to be careful because sometimes when
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  Speaker 3: you're like in a really bad place and you're sad
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  Speaker 3: or angry and whatnot, and you drink and that kind
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: of like adds to whatever feeling or emotion you're going through,
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  Speaker 3: and it's not good. If you're happy and you're just
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: gonna get happier and it's not gonna affect yourself or
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  Speaker 3: anybody else, then go ahead and do it. But definitely
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  Speaker 3: not no drive, I mean definitely not.
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  Speaker 2: That was gonna be my point. But never we are
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  Speaker 2: It's not like we're she's twenty one years old. We
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: were grown ass women like we had Like it costs
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  Speaker 2: eight dollars probably for her to get an uber to
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  Speaker 2: John Jansen's house to have that same fight. Right, Why
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  Speaker 2: would you ever think? And that's where it gets worrisome
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  Speaker 2: to me. Plus we have to go back to the past,
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: which I'm going to to kind of give you a
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  Speaker 2: little history. There's always been a thing about Shannon calling
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  Speaker 2: the women drunk and spewing things. But then there's always
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: been a thing about Shannon, like Shannon kind of went
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: after Gina about Gina's dui and how she was going
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  Speaker 2: to lose her kids, and like really went for Gina
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  Speaker 2: about her making that mistake as well. So now it's
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: come back and it's like, yeah, we're all hypocrites, but
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't that long ago. That's tough.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, I get it. I mean I feel like
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  Speaker 3: they obviously you're seeing it because they're on national TV
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: and everyone's seeing it. But I see I feel like
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  Speaker 3: a lot of women do it, and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people do that that you know, they drink under the
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: influence and we see it every day. We were just
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: talking in my podcast with Marisa about justin Timberlake a
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  Speaker 3: few weeks ago, and you know, it can happen to
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: anybody and to everyone. So it's like, that's really like
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  Speaker 3: the point here. If you want to drink, you know,
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  Speaker 3: stay home or get in a number or have a
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  Speaker 3: friend driver or what not. Just don't get behind the wheel.
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  Speaker 3: You just can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice.
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  Speaker 3: And then now before she's sharing all this because this
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  Speaker 3: is the other thing, Teddy even it's like, okay, well
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  Speaker 3: why do the show you We're gonna have to talk
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  Speaker 3: about it. Well, there's this thing called social media that
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: everybody is like on one hundred percent of the time,
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  Speaker 3: and when you're a public person, you can't hide anything.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can hide anything. Every They found out
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  Speaker 3: immediately when she was arrested and everything that happened, so
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: it's a it's already public.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen the video, We've seen everything that happened.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: We saw the damage on the house, we've seen her injuries.
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  Speaker 3: So it wasn't on this show. The entire world knows
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: about it. So maybe she can come back now and
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: she can say her story and her narrative and her
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: side of the story.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Did you feel sympathetic watching her?
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: You know I did, because you know, I am human,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: I am a mom, you know, a woman, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a wife. I mean, it's like it's hard to be,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: you know, in her shoes right now. And I did
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  Speaker 3: feel sympathetic because I have a kind heart. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I have no excuse for her to drive. But there's
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: so many people like that right that you care and
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: love and they make the wrong decisions. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so you're upset at them because they did that and
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: you wish they wouldn't have done it. And I don't
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: even know her that way, But did you think that
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: she wanted to get in that car and you know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: get into one accident and the whole world find about it,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: and you know, and hurt herself, maybe hurt somebody, her kids.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, she has to really fit feel like shit.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Honestly to not be able to travel to see your
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: child in another country because you're I have legal ramifications.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It's just another like when when we saw that conversation
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: with her kids, I was like like, yeah, I didn't
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: even think about that part. Like there's the whole kid's
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: dynamic aspect also, and like it's very hard as a mom,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: at least for me to be like, hey, guys, you
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: can't ever do this, but I did, right.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mean you can turn it into like
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: learn from me, you know what, Like you don't want
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: to end up like your mom, or you never want
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: this to happen to you. You know, you guys are young,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: you have a life ahead of you. You know, you
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: can turn it always into like a life lesson. But
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: she has to be embarrassed. Yeah, I mean, who's going
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: to be proud about that? And then now she has
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: all the other girls that are going to be sticking
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: in her face all throughout the season, everything she did wrong.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I know, I wish you would just take a little
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: bit of ownership about it instead of it being like
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: it's it's John, Like I do I love John Janssen. No,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys on the show that I
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: don't know enough to really make a true decision. But
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I've never gotten that like warm, fuzzy feeling watching him. Yeah,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I think I would like him either, by the way, Yeah,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. It's not like maybe he'll grow
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: on me at some point. But I don't know that
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: you can use your circumstance as an excuse.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Like well, I mean there's some men they know how
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: to push the buttons and and and I guess that
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: John knew that about Shannon and then put that on
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: top that she would drink, you know, to overcompensate whatever
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: she was going through, and this is the result that
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: you get. So, I mean I feel that that's like,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: obviously you really can't blame him, but indirectly he did
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: have something to do with it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Do you think that she was showing self awareness in
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: this episode?
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, she she did own what had happened, And
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I think because the entire world knows about it, so
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: you can't hide it. You know. It wasn't like back
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: in the day when there was no social media that
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: you can hide these things, you know, as long as
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: one of the other cast members wouldn't bring it up
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: or they were like your friend, they were white. This
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: was years ago when we started to show in twenty ten,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: that's what would happened. But now there's no secrets, so
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: you actually have an advantage of being on a show
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: like this where you have your platform where you can
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: really speak the truth. And that's what I wish that
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: these women would do that. R and D shows like
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Don't Lie, you know, like the But do.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: You think the true to Drink Max is a lie?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Oh oh no, well that I don't believe her too. Yeah,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I just have two drinks and I'm not gonna crush
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: and do make irresponsible decisions with two drinks. But that's me.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe somebody else has two drinks and they do make miss,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: you know, irresponsible choices and whatnot.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I think she was saying since then she's a true
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: too Drink Max person. But I'm still like, I feel
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: like when you have to clarify that it's a little dicey.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: But Tamar questions and asks Heather if she thinks Shannon
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: has an alcohol problem, and Heather says she thinks that
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: she does. Then Gina says, Shannon is twenty years ahead
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: of her and she didn't like what that looked like.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: That's why she changed her life. And then Shannon says
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: every day she wakes up and thinks about what happened.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: And that's when Tama equips is that after you've had
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a drink, I don't know if that happened in real time, right,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I know? And then Shannon is done with people saying
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: she's a drunk who needs help. She had a really
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: bad night. She cries and walks off in her confessional.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Oh that was a lot, Yeah, it was a lot.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I think what ends up happening is that so many
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: times things happen off camera as well, and the women
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: try to protect the other women until they can't anymore
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and it feels toxic. And then when the other women
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: won't take full of like I hate to use the word,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: but accountability for something, the others just go they can't
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: handle it, like you've been doing this for years, We've watched.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: It, right, but do you know that, like what what
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: are the girls saying that she always behaves in this manner,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: like she's always drinking and she don't like to be
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: the drunk. I don't know her past, so I'm not sure.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that she is a seasoned drinker
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: anytime I've been around her, and me too.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel like a lot of these women drink
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: too on the show just to feel more comfortable, and
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: that you know, to you they feel anxious, so it
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: takes away there anxiety. Or if they're quiet and they
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: have a drink, you know they're going to be more feisty.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: So you know, different reasons like I don't know her
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: in her day to day life, you know, and I
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: feel that that's what really makes on alcoholics, Like I
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: don't know if she only drinks when she's on camera
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: and around these women, or does she really wakes up
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: and drink? Yeah, does she wake up every day and nonfunction?
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Is she a functional alcoholic? I don't know her well enough,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: you know, to give my opinion. And that's why it's
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: hard for me to give my opinion about women that
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I watch a clip up, you know, for five minutes,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: because you know, it has to do with a lot
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: of things, and you know what I'm talking about. So
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know that, you know, and I haven't watched
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: her enough to know that in every season she has
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: been you know, accused of drinking too much, or she's
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: had problems handling her alcohol or whatnot. But if the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: girls really care about her, they would try to help
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: her and not like attack her. I mean, this woman's
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: already going through a lot of stuff, and I feel
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: like they need to be a little bit more sensitive
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: because they're not going to get the result they want.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you want somebody to get better, to
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: actually understand or become aware, you're not not everybody's gonna
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: attack her, you know, have that approach towards her that's
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: going through stuff. So that's why acting the way she is.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like, but how many years can you
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: be going through stuff like always? Do you get? Is
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: that a card forever?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: No? I don't think it gives you the right to
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: behave poorly and make the wrong decisions, you know, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: we're all going through stuff. But you know, again, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: feel that all this really came to life because she
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: had the DUI. I mean, there's people that drink every
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: day and they take uber or they stay home and
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: pass out and nobody finds out about it. Unluckily for her,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: she's a public person and that happened and the entire
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: world found out about it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so then Tamra, Jen and Emily go to the gym.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Tamra says that right after Shannon's duy, Shannon was telling
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the press she wasn't drinking anymore. She was drinking diet coke,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: and then at the Trace Amiga shows, Shannon would secretly
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: pour herself drinks. Tamar didn't feel like it was right
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: to continue doing a show revolving around drinking. Do you
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: agree that with Tama or that pausing that Trace a
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Mega's live show was the way to go. Yeah.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I like that Tamra did that. I think that that's
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: being a good friend and actually supporting her. I don't know.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: She had the conversation with Shannon and told her, listen,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you know this is not going to be good for you.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: It's not going to be good for us. You know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: we're involved around alcohol all the time, and you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I get it. It's a show. You want to have fun,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: We're all going to be drinking, so it's just better to,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: like cancel it and not do it anymore, because you
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: could have a bigger things to worry about right now
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: than to be, you know, doing a show, you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: around the country and getting drunk because all eyes are
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: going to be new and you need to get better.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if that conversation happened or she
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: just like, you know, stop.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can give a little insight just
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to clarify, and this is not me being biased, so
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: everyone please relax. But I know for a fact that
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Tamar absolutely was there for Shannon as support after her duy.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Tama just didn't think that doing the trace and a megas
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: right away was a good idea. She had found out
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: that Shannon and Vicki were saying, you know, terrible things
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: about her.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: They had signed on with the manager why Tamro was
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: in Scotland doing Traders, and then without her knowledge, gave
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: permission that Tamo would continue. So of course, going into
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the season, Tama was going to be pissed because she
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: knew this was going to happen with Shannon, like she
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: already was like there for her. Then she went away,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and you know how you are when you're on those
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: shows like you're like locked up, and they committed to
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: something that she had already told them. I don't think
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: it's a good idea. And then so she's gonna come
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: in hot. Yeah, Like so I think that's what happened.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Then we get to Shannon sitting down with her daughters.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: She says the night she got her DUY, she and
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: John got in a big argument and he called her
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: a drunken idiot, and driving home, she lost control of
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the car. One of her daughters says, this sucks, but
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: it happened for a reason. Then she said she went
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: through a thirty day wellness program as seeing a therapist.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And then Shannon says John called her ten days after
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: her DUI saying he was cutting all ties, that she
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: ruined his and his family's lives. And then six weeks
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: after the phone called, John started dating Alexis. Then we
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: flashed back to the gym. Emily brings up how Alexis's
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: ex husband sued Tamara and Shannon, and Tarmra says John
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: dating Alexis is karma. Do you feel like Shannon is
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: trying to insinuate John is partly to blame for her DUI?
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: No, I mean I don't really think she was insinuating.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I think, like deep in her heart, you know, she
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: does think that a lot of her anger and frustration
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: and whatnot is due to the relationship that she's had
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: with John all the time, and she has to be pissed.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what kind of relationship they
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: had or if she's still in love with the guy.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that, but I mean at
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: this point, she probably hates him and she saw that
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: he's moved on.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So I mean, do you think she hates somewhere? Do
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you think she's even more in love with him? You
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: know how sometimes in like really toxic relationships, like once
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: they they're fully gone, you just feel like I need
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to get like I need to get back.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I need you know, I think you did her favor.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I think you did her a favor by meeting Alexis,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: because I don't think there's no return there. I think
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: he was going to stay with Alexis, And you know,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: she might not realize it now, but she'll realize it
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that he did her favor, and Alexis did her favor
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: by you know, by meeting each other and by being together,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: because if not, I feel I feel like Shannon was
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: going to continue with this nonsense, which yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I did appreciate the conversations being had with her kids
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: because that was something I hadn't even put into my
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: my stratosphere of thinking. Then we get to Heather and
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Terry have moved into their new house in Beverly Hills,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: which I'm like, aren't we watching the Royal Housewives Orange County?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I know, how did that happen? I was going to
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: ask you that, how do you live in Beverly Hills
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: and film and no, se Well, I think I want
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: to tell you.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Well, what the reasoning behind us? I think Heather's kids
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: go to school in LA. They have the house in
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, but that's why. So Balboa Bay Club, for
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: anyone curious, is this like beautiful. It's not a country club,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: but it's in lack of a better word. You sign up,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you're a member, and then you get one of the condos.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: So I think in order to make it all makes sense,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and they can still see Terry's mom, they have a
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: place at Baboa Bay Club, which is also in Orange County,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: So I think they're residing in Los Angeles for the kids.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: The family for Terry and then they have a place
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: at Balboa Bay Club.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I was going to google this last night, but I forgot,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: so I don't want to be ignorant. But how far
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: is oc Orange County from Los Angeles.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Depends on traffic. Like, if I left at five forty
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: five in the morning, I could be at Tamra's house
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: in less than an hour. If I after ten am, okay,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: if I left at ten am, two and a half.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Hours, okay. Well, it's kind of like Miami, like when
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I go to Marisol's house and she still lives in Miami,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Like I do it technically, Well, I mean I live
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: in a certain area of Sunny Owls and I'm living
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: in the beach, but it's an hour away as well.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: So the part that's.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Different is if there was a real Housewives of Sunny Isles, right,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: why would you be on Miami that that's where there's
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a I mean, I don't mind
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: it at all. I don't care, right, I think Heather.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like she can she can work out in
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: both franchises.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Listen, if you're that rich, yeah, go for it. You
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: can be on all the places, right, And like I'm
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to, you know, go on her jet and
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: go wherever she wants to go. I'll reside in her club.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she can come to Miami whenever she wants to.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Then, Gina tells Emily that her client's brother bumped into
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Shannon at the store with a shopping cart full of boots.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Gina says Shannon gave her so much shit for Dui
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and she has no respect for her now. She thinks
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Shannon needs to go to rehab. Gina talks about how
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: she and Travis can't afford a house to fit their
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: combined family and they may need to live separately and
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: see where the chips lay. Later, Gina and Travis discussed
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: this decision, which Travis doesn't agree with and feels like
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: it's pulling them apart. H there's a lot to unpacked here.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: There is.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Like one in regards to Gina and Shannon stuff. I
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: get that Gina is pissed at Shannon for her behavior
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: last year, but I also think of all of the women,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: maybe Gina could have the most empathy.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. That's what I was going to say.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: You went through this yourself, you know how hard this is.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: She shouldn't you know after she gets over the fact
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: that yes, Shannon said that and offended her, that she
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: can help Shannon in many ways.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, Gina is California sober, which is does not
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: mean you're free of any substance.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Correct, I learned. I know what that meant. But I
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: learned that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean I think that, like you have,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: you got to give somebody a little bit of I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: don't know if if it's happened to you, like if
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I had gotten ad UI. It's like me talking to
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: somebody that's had a divorce because I've been divorced before.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I have a little bit more empathy towards somebody who's
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: had one, because I like, it just gives you an
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: insight that you wouldn't have if you've never had one,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: and you've always thought that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe throughout the season they do have that moment.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I would love to see that. I would love for
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Gina and Shannon to you know, have that moment or
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: the differences aside and they're you know, there for each other,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: and Gina actually you know, helps her and you know.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know that we should hold our breath for that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: No, I'm a nice I don't even know what I'm doing.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: He shows them very thanks they show. They do show
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: them in the trailer getting along, but I feel like
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it might have been like a five second teaser bake out.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: But then we do get into something that I think resonated.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Gina and Travis moved into a house together. They have
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: a shit ton of kids. They moved them all into
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the house. There's a million bunk beds that are living together.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: And then Gina shares that she is going to have
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Travis move out because now the kids are getting older
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: and they need privacy. And Travis's ex wife, I think
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: has taken over too much of their space of their relationship.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: She feels like it's like a third person in their
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: relationship because her and her ex husband have figured out
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: how to co parent, and apparently this woman has not.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: What I think in this moment is if we're going
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: to talk about her, I need her on the show.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I agree, like I need to.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Know what she's doing right, But who do you need?
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: You need the ex wife?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I need the ex wife. If we're going to talk
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: about her and how she's causing these problems, then let's
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: show her. Let's see a little bit of it, because
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would relate to that
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and going through that struggle of I mean, if you're
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: willing to open up and say this about your boyfriend's
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: kid's mother, then that's shore right.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Well maybe she will, no, maybe she'll she'll be a
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: part of the show. Maybe she'll want to do that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not sure.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about jen and Ryan because they
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: go to Jenner Jenna is finalizing her divorce, but now
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: her ex hasn't paid his portion of the rent and
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: she's getting evicted in the house that Gina found her.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: My god, this is on one episode.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: It was like a lot.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: There were so many like different stories going on, and
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: like a lot. It was like heavy stuff. It was
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: like wow, Like all.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I kept thinking was a housewife with no house. How dreadful.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: But like I don't even understand, Like how do you
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: not pay for your like for your rent? Even before
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: you didn't share that on TV, that's like really humiliating.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I mean I would think.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I also was thinking, you're getting paid fifty dollars
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: a yoga class. Don't you own the studio? Like that's
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: what she's getting paid to go there? Like she's posting
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: on hers and listen, this isn't to come at gin,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: but she is posting every single time she's going to
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: teach a class in Orange County, like to put things out.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: How many people does she have in her class? I mean,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: that's not a lot of money.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: But that's why I'm saying that's a shit. That's shit.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Normally in a situation like I, I don't teach fitness
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: classes or anything like that. But if I do a
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: charity or something like that, and I say I'm gonna
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: be in this class, sign up, you know, like there's
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: it's a big money pot because the person wants to Yeah, get.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: The tea, you make her money. It's about volume. You
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: need to fill up your classes.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that that made me worry. But then I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: also thought, do you think it's a red flag that
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: she's moving in with Ryan? I mean his past is
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: that he's a cheater or whatever it may be. Solely
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: because she financed, can't do it on her own. Are
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: you like, oh, he's being a nice guy.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I would like for me, I mean, that should not
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: be the reason why you move in with a man, ever,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: because right there, he he knows that it's about that,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: So like the relationship kind of like takes a shift.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: So I'm just going to go exactly, I'm just going
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: to go to your house, and it's just like the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: easy way out, and I wouldn't do that. I also
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: think that somebody has to be because you want establish
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: a life together, a relationship, you're in love and whatnot,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: but definitely not because you need free rent.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's going to be. I feel like, And
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: now you know, since we've seen they've gotten engaged, he's
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: gotten allegedly in all this trouble with the stuff with
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the Dodger player, the FBI is involved like all of it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, you're getting yourself deeper and deeper immersed
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Like now it's no longer just you didn't pay your
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: rent on the place that Drina found for you. Now
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: we're into a whole, You're into another web of issues,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: which worries me. Then Emily, Heather, and Alexis meet for drinks.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Emily asked Alexis about her ring, and Alexis says it's
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: a promise ring, not an engagement ring. Then Alexis confronts
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Emily about talking shit about John on to teas in
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: a pod, and Emily said she knows he treated Shannon poorly,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and then Alexis asked Emily if she trust a drunk
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: woman's opinion. Emily questions why she's defending him after only
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: dating him for a month. M how do you feel
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: about promise rings?
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: First of all, we're adults, you know, and I don't
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: even think young people do promise rings anymore. A promise
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: ring is kind of like I promise to never marry you.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: That's how I see you, but also marry you.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Remember when we were like in high school and we
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: would get those rings that it meant like you weren't
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: going to have sex until like they well, like I
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: think I got one, Like it's like a chastity ring.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I forget what the called, but they give it to you.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: It's like a promise ring and you put it on.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I think mine was like a knockoff David Yeerman and
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: it met like this, we're together and then when we're
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: ready to have sex, we're gonna do it. But like
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: y'all already had sex, what do y'all promise?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: And four times a day? So it's like, so no,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I think it's silly. I think it's more for like
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: publicity and just I just think it's stupid, honestly, between
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: you and I, it's like, you know what, it's save
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: the money and get me like a tennis bracelet or
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: something else, like it could be something else at symbolic.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: A piece of jewelry does not have to be a ring.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: You could they could be like the people on Love
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Is Blind?
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: And have you seen these little tappers Whenever you're thinking
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: about the person that you're with, you tap it and
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: that lights up their arm. I actually google that be
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: good for my kids, Just give my little tap, little
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: bus like. But I feel like Alexis is going into
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: this season and if she does continue to bring up
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: to teas in a pod, I'm happy for her to
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: get an orange thank you.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: So I was gonna say, maybe that's like what she wants. Well,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of times when the women
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: come in as friends and it's the first season, they
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: really fight for their position.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Especially after being a housewife.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Exactly that is true in her case. I forgot that
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: she was a housewife, and you know, after so many years,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like she's coming back and she needs
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: to prove herself and there's nothing that's going to stop her,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: so there's no consequences. So that's that's what it looks
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: like she's doing. And then obviously she has John, which
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: is Shannon's ex boyfriend.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: But then Shannon meets with her lawyer, Mike. Shannon was
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: sentenced to three years of probation. Shan says she's a
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: hypocrite for always talking about how dumb it is to
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: get a dui. Then tam and her daughter go to
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: get tattoos. Sophia has not been on show for eighteen years, yes,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: because her father would not allow her to film, and
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: so it's pretty exciting to see her on And like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I know Sophia obviously in real life, and she is
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: like the perfect mix of just like Tamra's spunk, but
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: also just like having that she's just cool, like I'm
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: not naturally cool, Like she is just cool. But Tama
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: wants one one one on her wrist. And then Tamma
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: gets emotional every time she sees one one one because
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: she was her other daughter, Sydney would come home. I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: love seeing tam get to interact with her kids because
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I think so often on the show because the kids
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: weren't allowed to film.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: We didn't get to.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: See that side, so I do appreciate that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really touching. I love that. No, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: don't have any senses.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: You classy, I got a lot. And then on the
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: way to Heather's lunch, we meet the new housewife, Katie,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: who is a friend of Gina's. She was introduced to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Gina Buyston and Katie loves Gina because she has a
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: zest for life and Gina loves Katie because she's her
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: age thirty nine.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's the number and the requirement to
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: be a housewife, to be thirty nine. Yeah, I'll like
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: the new all the new beans that are coming in
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: that's like their age gruth.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Well, and then Gina wants to live in her youth
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: a little bit longer. Then I started to like ask
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: the question, like do we think a thirty nine year
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: old and a fifty nine year old can be friends?
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I think they can for sure, because I have a
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: lot of thirty something year old friends and forty something.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: For me, age is just a number either of It's
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: just like a friendship with a girl or even like
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: with men. You know, it depends obviously the amount in
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: this case we're talking about two girls, and you know,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: thirty nine and fifty nine is a twenty year difference.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: But I feel like if you have a mom, you
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: can relate to her, like there's some similarities like that
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: their mom might have. I think it's actually smart because
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the fifte nine year old woman has so much wisdom
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: and insight, and it's great to have an older friend,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: you know, the woman that's thirty nine, and then the
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: fifty nine year old. He is a thirty nine year
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: old still full of that energy and kind of like
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: you live through them and you want to keep up.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: You know, Younger people, you know, have more energy and
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: live their life a little differently. I mean, granted, there's
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of thirty nine year olds.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Or I'd say I'm forty three, and I'm not full
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: of energy and zest for life, just like everybody I am.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: And that's why I like young people and I attract
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: young people because I can identify like I'm more. Really
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I relate more to younger people, but then I also
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: have older friends that I relate to them different things
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: in like you know, career and life experiences, our children,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: you know, like our marriages. I mean so much more,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: you know, I feel again, that age is just a number.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of thirty nine year old women that
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: are like older old souls, and there's a lot of
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: fifteenine year old women that are still super mature that
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: you can't even have a conversation with.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: So I think also it depends where you are in
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: your life. Like I think it is hard. Like if
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I had a newborn baby right now, and I had
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: a friend and her youngest child is twenty five, and
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: we're trying to spend days together, that is hard, Like
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: do you want to come over and hang out with
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: me and my baby? Like? There are moments in time
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: that it's hard. But I think there's situational friendships that
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: you come in and you get closer through time, And
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: so I think that is fine. But how do we
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: to really get down to it? What do we think
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Katie's going to be like as a housewife?
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: You know, I really can't tell by the first By
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: her first season, first episode, you know, I felt like
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: her story was a little bit lost. Honestly, I don't
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: really remember her too much because I think that shade
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I wasn't being shady. I'm sorry, I'm just being honest.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: For me.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: For some people shadiness. For me, it's honesty. But I'm
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: just saying I really don't remember her because I don't think.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: She's going to be as a housewife. I don't really
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: remember her, to.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Be honest, I don't And it's not shady, just saying
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: the truth because I felt like I was so more
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: absorbed with like Shannon's story and Gina and even Tamra,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, all the other things that we've been talking about,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: and Emily and and Alexis. I feel like for me
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: it was more of that.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: So do you think they needed to bring in somebody
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: new or they could have just left it without It's
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: too soon to tell.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: You can ask me that after a couple of more episodes,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: because so far, like I said, I don't really remember her,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: so I don't know how much more involvement she's gonna have.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: You know, I always think it's good to bring in
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: new people into the group and throw them in the
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: mix and see, you know, because sometimes you know you
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: need it, and if they don't work out, you just
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: start phasing them out, and you know the viewers will
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: see that too, But it's too soon to tell.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Then we get to Heathery's throwing a party at the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Balbeoba Club. Gina tells Shannon she feels uncomfortable for her,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and she says she's grateful she's out of the relationship
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: with John. And then they get there. Everybody there's a
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: lot of activities. I gotta be honest, I don't love
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: a party with a ton of activities. Like I like
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: a couple so I can dodge out of conversations. I
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: don't want to have like, oh, it's my turn for
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: bracelet making, but I don't need like eighty seven, Like
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I just need a good drink and like one.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Good human to talk to, like this kind of parties either.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But then Shannon arrives and all the girls are like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I think Shannon looks great. Things are good. But then
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: all the women I start to wonder where everybody else
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: is at the party because all of the women are
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: like at this one window ram together watching the conversation
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: between Shannon and Alexis.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I just see that it's funny, and they're all like
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: trying to like look and see and then.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: They're like yelling at Emily. They're like, Emily, you're spread eagle.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Everybody gets here, but how did you feel? Because I
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: really am trying to come into this and not be biased.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on how Alexis and Shannon both
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: handled themselves in this conversation.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly thought that they could have taken
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: different directions. I thought Shannon was being honest and she
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: was just you know, opening up to Alexis, and you know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Alexis was a little rude. I mean, don't you think.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like Alexis, but I'm just saying, like
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: it was just weird the conversation that they've had, you know,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: first episode.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, not to piss you off, but if
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: if you and Todd don't rekindle after this club Sandwich
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: tag and a year down the road I end up
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: with Todd, I would handle it with a little bit more.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: That's not happening. Why don't we put somebody else as
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: an example? Because I'm Cuban and I'm very feisty, so
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: we're not going to do that.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Listen, I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking, I would hand.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Guys that they're not friends. So Alexis and when she
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: meets John, oh yeah, we we that's different.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: We are friends, Okay, So it has to be somebody
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: else that I don't know.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: But regardless, John, don't you think that I never asked
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: her that. So she told me that when she met
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: John at the bar she I forgot that she had
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: been part of the OC cast for many years. So
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: she's probably still watching, and she's seen John in Shannon's life.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I mean she I think she told us she didn't watch,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: but I mean I feel like everybody says that.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Well, but even the thing now, Teddy's even if you
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: don't watch these shows, you watch social media and you
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: follow these bloggers and the barber world and whatnot. So
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: at some point she had to see John and the
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: mess that Shannon's been in also with him. So so
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know that I believe it or not. I
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: feel like she knew who he was, and he probably
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: knew who she was as well, because if he likes
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: all this world, that's why he's with her. Because Amanda
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: wants nothing to do with this, wouldn't be going on
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: with Alexus, no.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: But also I think maybe where Shannon might have mucked
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: this up a little bit, and this is coming at Shannon.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: This is just I wish she would have led with
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: John and then brought up Jim Bellino later. But I
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: think the fact that she was emotional explaining the lawsuit
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: with Jim Bellino put Alexis on the defense, right, I
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't a part of this lawsuit, like blah blah blah.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: And then also I Gotana.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Was saying that she was. She's like, I saw your
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: signature on the papers and you were an Alexis saying
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I wasn't because it was after my divorce with John.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: So I think the fact that that happened, I don't know,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: especially because we're not talking about like a twenty thousand
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: dollars lawsuit. We're talking about a three hundred thousand and
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: a five hundred thousand dollars lawsuit. Like these women Tamra
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: and Shannon allegedly lost a lot of money in this
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: lawsuit for something they went on a freaking live podcast.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. But then I just felt like
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: the conversation was off to the races and there was
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: gonna be no kindness from Alexis to Shannon after that.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, because she was on the defense, like, I
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: didn't do it, I know.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: But I mean, can you blame Shannon for saying that?
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I would have said that too, like our problem is
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: not only because of John. Our problem is also because
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: your ex husband, you know, suit us. So I mean
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like Shannon had a lot of things to say.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, of course it was to Alexis. Maybe she
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: would have sent him to Alexis ex husband if you
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: would have been there, But because you know she's the
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: ex wife, she was the one that got it. And
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: again I don't know that she had anything to do
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: with it. I want to believe Alexis. Alexis says I
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: had nothing to do with it. It was after he
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: and I had divorced, and it is what it is.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: You know, sometimes your husband's make decisions without counting with you,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: And I don't know that she supported that back in
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: the day. I don't know that.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know either.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: But a lot a lot of things going on like
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: against this woman. I mean first her ex husband Susan,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: and then now her ex boyfriend is dating her. I mean,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: it's a lot.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: With a promise friend. But one thing that I will
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: say in closing out this episode is, no matter what
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: side you're on, Shannon going straight up to Alexis episode
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: one for a direct chat is giving the fans everything
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: that they want like she could have completely avoided that
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: conversation episode in.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: My show, they would have avoided it, right, But in
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: your show, she went by for it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Like she went right in. And I was like, and
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: so I do think we're going to see a lot
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: of highs and lows. I think we're gonna see the
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: women having fun. I am really excited for the season.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: But I think, as the kids would say, episode one
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: was giving. It was yes, well, thank you so much
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: for joining me, and now you're gonna have to go
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: deeper down the rabbit hole of the past of all
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: of these women because you are so good at this
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and I need you to have this history.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I want to be Yeah, sorry, I just like watched
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: it last night and with the time difference and stuff,
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: but I am gonna get more involved. I'm gonna watch everything.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: So good, are you kidding? I was? That was not
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: a knock. That was like you are so good.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Good, thank you. I mean, I think it's you know,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like they're going to have a great season.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to say. It was so much
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: for like episode one, there were so many like you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: stories going on, and like real life shit and that's why. Like,
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. These are all like real life ships,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: personal things that really affect you on your life.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: It didn't feel fake at all. It didn't feel like bullshit.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: It felt like this is real shit hitting the fan
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: for all of these women. Correct, Yeah, oh see, you're
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: back and we appreciate you and thank you so much
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: for joining.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Seddie,