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INTERVIEW: KevOnStage Talks 'Clean' Comedy, 20 Yrs Of Marriage, “Life from the Back Pew” Tour + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 2: Everybody is stej Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We
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Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club Lone, the Rosa fhillin in for
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Speaker 2: just this morning. And we got a special guest in
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Speaker 2: the building. We have Kevi on stage. Yes, y'all, how
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Speaker 2: you feeling good?
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Speaker 1: Morning?
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Speaker 3: Good?
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Speaker 1: I've been wanting to hear that for a long time.
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Speaker 1: How are you, my brother? I'm good man.
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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for having me. You know, there's some
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Speaker 3: people who might know. I got a two part question.
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Speaker 3: Number one, who is Kevi on stage? And who is
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Speaker 3: Kevin Fredericks.
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Speaker 1: Oh it's a good question.
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Speaker 3: Uh, Kevi on stage is probably the performative version of
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Speaker 3: Kevin Fredericks. Kevi on stage is a comedian entertainer. Uh
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Speaker 3: pretty much do anything to make you laugh. I feel
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Speaker 3: like Kevin Fredericks is a father, husband, business person as well.
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Speaker 1: You know that's it. I think it's two sides.
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Speaker 3: When I'm when I'm at home, I'm Kevin Fredericks, right,
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Speaker 3: gotta make my family laugh.
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Speaker 1: But I'm not like Yo, let me see this boo
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Speaker 1: booty boo, BITI boo.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, But when I leave that house,
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Speaker 3: I'm kept on stage, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think that's the difference.
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Speaker 2: How'd you get into comedy, especially coming from the church. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think clean quote unquote clean comic.
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Speaker 3: Yes. And when I say clean, I just don't cuss,
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Speaker 3: like yeah, because clean has different connotations, like you can
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Speaker 3: be clean where there's no vulgar material at all, you
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Speaker 3: don't touch certain subjects. I really just don't cuss. I
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Speaker 3: talk about everything else in my life, everything else that
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Speaker 3: I think is funny. I just don't cuss. I say
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Speaker 3: nigga too though, Like I just as a church kid,
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Speaker 3: I could not cuss. My mom would rather me bring
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Speaker 3: home a child than to cuss. Really, yes, cussing was
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Speaker 3: so bad, and you know a lot of church are
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Speaker 3: way worse. Well, what's a little baby amongst friends and family?
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Speaker 3: You have a baby, but cussing in the house. She
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Speaker 3: was like, absolutely not. And I didn't trust myself to
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Speaker 3: cuss at school and not cuss at home like most
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Speaker 3: of the church kids did. So I pretty much did
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Speaker 3: you know, I premrial sex. I just never cussed. But
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Speaker 3: don't practice bad habits, no, No, I just never I
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Speaker 3: felt like they would catch me slipping. And that's actually
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Speaker 3: really a tool for me in comedy. I think a
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Speaker 3: lot of times you got to work a little bit
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Speaker 3: harder if you ain't cussing. Sometimes cuss words are just funny,
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Speaker 3: so you just throw it out there and it's funny.
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Speaker 3: But to answer your question, my comedy started in church,
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Speaker 3: like making people laugh in church. After church, my Grandma'd
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Speaker 3: be like, do that thing Sister Daniel's did when she
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Speaker 3: fell over, do that, do that person's shower, do how
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Speaker 3: that person preached, And I would get to stay in
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Speaker 3: the living room a little longer around grown folks and
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. So once I realized, oh, this gets
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Speaker 3: me attention, this gets me perks, I started leaning into that.
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Speaker 3: And you know black churches where a lot of performers
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Speaker 3: get their first start. So I did a talent show
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Speaker 3: in church sixteen and I was like bitten by the
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Speaker 3: bug then, and then shout out to Nate Jackson, a
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Speaker 3: real big comedian. Now he had a comedy club in Tacoma,
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Speaker 3: and he let me do twenty twenty five minutes at
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Speaker 3: his club every Thursday for like two years. And that's
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Speaker 3: why I really really honed my craft. After college, I
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Speaker 3: was just going there every week and a lot of
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Speaker 3: time we had a lot of regulars there, so I
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Speaker 3: couldn't do the same material, so I'd have to like
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Speaker 3: do new jokes, get better, do new stuff. So I
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Speaker 3: think that's the church gives me the performance. The club
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Speaker 3: helped me sharpen my tool. Why do you keep saying, like,
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Speaker 3: what made you keep saying the N word? Because I'm
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Speaker 3: trying not to say the N word no more? So
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Speaker 3: what made you not curse but say the N word?
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Speaker 3: You know, that wasn't a cuss word to me, Like
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Speaker 3: there are certain words.
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Speaker 2: That my mom say, sell them is saying it for
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Speaker 2: fifteen years. He's been trying to stop saying.
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Speaker 1: Hard not You know what I'm saying, it's hard not
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Speaker 1: to use it.
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Speaker 3: I think as a black kid, all my friends were
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Speaker 3: saying nigga. It was in black culture movies, TV. And
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Speaker 3: it wasn't a cuss word. To my mom, she wasn't
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Speaker 3: on the list like some people couldn't say lie, like
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Speaker 3: my wife. She couldn't say lie in the you know,
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Speaker 3: in the house my family, pissed off wasn't a cuss word,
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Speaker 3: and nigga just didn't really bother them. I didn't say
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Speaker 3: that a lot at home, but it didn't raise no flags.
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Speaker 3: So there was like the one curse word I could say.
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Speaker 3: So I said it so much.
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Speaker 1: It's always a person telling you not to say lie.
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Speaker 1: That's the biggest lie. I don't want you to say.
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Speaker 1: They don't follow me out, and.
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Speaker 2: We don't get we don't say live, we don't say fat,
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Speaker 2: we don't say ugly in the house.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, those words.
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Speaker 4: My mom cussed me out, like really what? Oh no,
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Speaker 4: she's a sweet, humble lady now, but.
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Speaker 1: You should have led it with that part.
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Speaker 4: Because they met her and they'd be like, what I'm
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Speaker 4: trying to know? It was yeah, she changed, Oh yeah,
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Speaker 4: and my grandmother was locked into the church now.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, I wanted to ask you about
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Speaker 2: you know, we had Big Mac Hash something producers and
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Speaker 2: he was talking about what you did during COVID. He
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Speaker 2: was very impressed of how COVID, who had everybody locked down,
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Speaker 2: you made it into a business and a successful business.
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Speaker 1: He said, he's seeing you.
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Speaker 2: Go from small house to medium house, the bigger house,
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Speaker 2: the different car to this, this, this, that and the other.
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Speaker 2: So telling people what you did during COVID, that was
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Speaker 2: something that was totally different.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some other things in there, but that
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Speaker 3: was the most visible. Shout out the spectrum, appreciate y'all.
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Speaker 3: Keep your distance comedy was our COVID comedy relief situation.
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Speaker 3: So what I did in La we obviously everything was
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Speaker 3: locked down during COVID, and then we got the notification
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Speaker 3: that you could have up to twenty five people outside
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Speaker 3: social distance two people here, six feet two more people.
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Speaker 3: And I could never do the zoom comedy. I could
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Speaker 3: never get into it because comedy is about timing and
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Speaker 3: that's short delay from zoom response. It threw me off.
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Speaker 3: Some people could do it. I just I needed instant reaction,
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Speaker 3: know if it's funny or not. So once they did that,
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Speaker 3: I have the idea of like, okay, if we get
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Speaker 3: people to come outside. Luckily LA is warm and it
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Speaker 3: doesn't rain that often, and we could split them up
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Speaker 3: and get twenty five people. I'll bring the comics, comics in,
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Speaker 3: we'll do COVID testing, put them up, and we'll live
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Speaker 3: stream the comedy. Because we didn't have nothing to do,
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Speaker 3: like we watching verses and you know, me and my
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Speaker 3: wife was like we was having like five parties for
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Speaker 3: verses I was like, we really, she's making nachos, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm.
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Speaker 5: Saying, We like really getting parties.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like them Verse was part of the early Verses.
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Speaker 3: That was the only thing to look forward to, like
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Speaker 3: new interesting. Didn't even care about the quality. It was like, oh,
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Speaker 3: Versus coming on. So I was like, what if we
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Speaker 3: do that for comedy And that's basically where the idea
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Speaker 3: came from.
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Speaker 1: Did you run out an alley? It was like the.
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Speaker 3: Back parking lot of our partner's studio, Like it was
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Speaker 3: a back parking lot. I mean, we literally had twenty
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Speaker 3: five thirty people max, maybe thirty five including the comics,
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Speaker 3: and we needed the comics. We were like, y'all stand
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Speaker 3: here too, so we have as much audience as possible.
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Speaker 3: We had to COVID test every single person. It was
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Speaker 3: like two hundred dollars a test. It was crazy expensive.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I flew all these comics in and I
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Speaker 3: we livestream their sets. We have like six comedians, probably
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Speaker 3: did over one hundred and fifty micro specials over the
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Speaker 3: two year period. Introduced a lot of people to a
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Speaker 3: lot of comics, to a lot of different people, A
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Speaker 3: lot of people to a lot of different comics. A
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Speaker 3: lot of comics'.
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Speaker 1: Biggest YouTube video is there to keep your.
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Speaker 3: Distance special And it was like it was like my
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Speaker 3: proudest moment to create opportunities to see black comedians put
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Speaker 3: some money in their pockets, give them some tape to
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Speaker 3: show the comedy clubs. Like I was ask them like, yo,
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Speaker 3: can you send me your tape so I could market it,
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Speaker 3: and they like, bro, I don't have no tape because
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Speaker 3: most comedy clubs are drabbing dark and you know it's
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Speaker 3: not quality. So we gave them their specials to do
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Speaker 3: with what they wanted afterwards, so they put them up
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Speaker 3: on YouTube or chop them up and make reels and
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Speaker 3: it was fantastic. Dave Chappelle actually executed it first, like
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Speaker 3: I have the idea, and then I saw him do
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Speaker 3: it in Ohio, so that was like, oh great, now
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Speaker 3: I can say it's just how Dave did that, That's
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Speaker 3: how we're going to do it.
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Speaker 2: So I said, you have no less than ten thousand
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Speaker 2: people on the stream each every other week.
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Speaker 1: Right right, it was every other week. That was early COVID.
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Speaker 3: So as guidelines relaxed, the ticket sales went down. So
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Speaker 3: at the top at the peak of it was ten
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Speaker 3: thousand tickets, fourteen thousand tickets, and we were averaging about
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Speaker 3: ten thousand tickets. And that's like just people who purchased,
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Speaker 3: but people were having basically five parties. They'd have ten
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Speaker 3: to fifteen people. So it was like almost closed closed
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Speaker 3: circuit TV parties. But as each state, once Atlanta was outside,
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Speaker 3: then it was less than Texas, it was less. But
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Speaker 3: we did it for about two years straight and it
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Speaker 3: was it was fantastic. And now that's on Amazon. You
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Speaker 3: can go watch those all those specialist on Amazon.
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Speaker 5: First of all, your partnerships go crazy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you had for really Amazon then, So I
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Speaker 4: was gonna ask you after that. I know you did
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Speaker 4: something with Patreon with the women in comedy because you
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Speaker 4: forgot the women a lot in the pandemic.
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Speaker 1: No, I did it. I didn't forget the women.
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Speaker 3: I made sure there was at least one black woman
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Speaker 3: and often two or three on every single show.
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Speaker 1: Okay, because I had.
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think I paid attention to that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because y'all don't see black women. No, that's not
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Speaker 1: want to say.
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Speaker 4: I know you from all that digital So I've seen
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Speaker 4: you work with so many women and like different people
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Speaker 4: I didn't think about that, but when I was researching
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Speaker 4: for this, I saw something in essence where you would
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Speaker 4: talk about one of your homegirls. Was like, yo, like
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Speaker 4: where the women that like? Can we like hello? And
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Speaker 4: then you did the partnership with Patreon.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Patreon reached out to me.
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Speaker 3: I was like, what do you want to do and
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Speaker 3: to continue my efforts to support black women because he.
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Speaker 1: Was already already like black women don't see each other.
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Speaker 1: I understand this all the time. Honestly.
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Speaker 3: The truth is the ratio of comics it's probably eight
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Speaker 3: to two men to women anyway. So to make sure
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Speaker 3: I had a black woman, I had to like, I
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Speaker 3: was flying them out. At first, I was only doing
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Speaker 3: LA comics, but after I ran out of LA Women,
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Speaker 3: I was flying them out, flying women from New York
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Speaker 3: and Atlanta, every women in LA Black Women comics.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, when Patron reached out there like what
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Speaker 1: do you want to do? You want to do a special?
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Speaker 3: And I was like, I want to produce stand up
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Speaker 3: specials for the black women I think are funny. So
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Speaker 3: so that's what we did. We had an amazing time
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Speaker 3: and mel Mitchell, Tyd Davis para parasas. I think Grace
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Speaker 3: came from New York. Jarlyn indescribable did some time. And
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Speaker 3: there's one person I'm forgetting off the top of him. No,
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Speaker 3: I said, tie, all that might have been in. They
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Speaker 3: did great. My shout out to my Patreon, the stage crew,
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Speaker 3: they support keep your distance, they support Patreon, they buy
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Speaker 3: a lot.
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Speaker 1: So you know what.
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Speaker 3: The reason I asked that is because a lot of
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Speaker 3: times we ask for things, but we don't support. Yeah, oh,
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Speaker 3: that's that's something black people do. We ask for things,
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Speaker 3: say well, we want more black women, But then do
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Speaker 3: you actually watch the Black Women, especially when she does it?
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Speaker 3: You watch your sitcom, you watch her cable news show.
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Speaker 1: That I do.
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Speaker 4: People support you though, like you get a lot especially online,
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Speaker 4: like you've mastered the comedian that comes from like the stage,
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Speaker 4: but like also is online. But people will take you
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Speaker 4: very serious and real sefely very serious. It's hard to
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Speaker 4: be in that middle space sometimes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I totally agree. I think they're two
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Speaker 3: different skills and you need to know how to do
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Speaker 3: both of them. And for me, the internet's always been
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Speaker 3: a tool to get you to come to shows and
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Speaker 3: do other stuff. Like I'm just trying to get your attention.
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Speaker 3: But you have to be funny on the Internet and
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Speaker 3: you have to be funny in real life. A lot
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Speaker 3: of times comedians are on the Internet but they haven't
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Speaker 3: put the time and stand up. I actually did the reverse,
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Speaker 3: but I wasn't making videos on the Internet, so people
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Speaker 3: didn't know I was stand up. So then I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: I need to remind people. So a lot of times
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Speaker 3: people come to my show it's their first stand up
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Speaker 3: comedy show ever that they've ever attended. So I think
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Speaker 3: few people have mastered both because they both require immense
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Speaker 3: level of training in that discipline. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Even if you're funny, it might not necessarily translate to
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Speaker 3: the Internet because you need to know how to be
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Speaker 3: funny on that specific platform. Each platform has their own identity.
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Speaker 3: Twitter funny is not the same as Instagram TikTok. They
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Speaker 3: all have their own identities and comedic abilities. Some stuff
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Speaker 3: translates to all five, but and it's all different budgets
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Speaker 3: of money. If you're able to do stand up, you'll
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Speaker 3: do your stand up. If you're able to do stuff
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Speaker 3: on social media, you do social media.
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Speaker 1: You can do both. Get it off absolutely get brand deals.
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Speaker 3: Some platforms pay use you know, brand deals, live show
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Speaker 3: money like that was the other thing about keep your distance.
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Speaker 3: It was like I went from touring and selling out
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Speaker 3: to not being able to tour. So I still got
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Speaker 3: my family, I got employees and stuff. So I'm like,
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Speaker 3: I need a way to generate this income because people
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Speaker 3: looking for me to pay their bills. So switching to that,
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Speaker 3: you know, keep your distance was also just that's the
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Speaker 3: Kevin Fredericks of it. That's the business mindset of like
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Speaker 3: we gotta pivot and also knowing that that business is
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Speaker 3: not gonna last long term. Some people can go outside again,
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Speaker 3: They're gonna go outside, you know what I'm saying that
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Speaker 3: nothing can compete with being able to go outside, have
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Speaker 3: dinner and go to a show or do whatever.
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Speaker 4: Did your internet life start like with you figuring out
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Speaker 4: okay on the stage? I also should do internet? Did
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Speaker 4: that begin during the all depth digital time? Like what
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Speaker 4: was the first like internet breakthrough for you?
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Speaker 3: It was prior, prior prior to even moving to LA.
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Speaker 3: It was back in the day. Had a group called
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Speaker 3: the Playmakers, me and my brother and my friend and
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Speaker 3: we used to actually do physical plays like ty We
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Speaker 3: were trying to be Tyler Perry, but we lived in Tacoma, Washington,
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Speaker 3: and you just not gonna be able to stand up
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Speaker 3: a play in Tacoma. There's not enough black people, there's
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Speaker 3: not enough stuff. Tyler starting in Atlanta, so he was
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Speaker 3: able to his audience was there more so. I remember
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Speaker 3: we were struggling. We had lost its investor. We lost
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Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars in his money, like he and first
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Speaker 3: we put up on ourselves. We're doing like high schools
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Speaker 3: and churches that adin't go nowhere, got investor give us
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Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars. We didn't make that man dying with
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Speaker 3: his money back. So next time we got twenty thousand
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Speaker 3: dollars and we flew this Tyler Perry promoter out. He
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Speaker 3: was like, Yo, this place is great, Like Tyler would
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Speaker 3: love to see this. You guys got to stand it
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Speaker 3: up in Oakland. We're like, okay, what do we gotta do?
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Speaker 3: Like you're gonna help us? He was like, yes, I'm
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Speaker 3: going to help you set up in Oakland. All you
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Speaker 3: need is three hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: Three hundred thousand dollars, I said, brother, I mean you
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Speaker 1: might as well be three hundred million.
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Speaker 3: At that point, I probably had seven hundred and fifty
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Speaker 3: six dollars in my account like be, and my wife
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Speaker 3: made just enough to pay those bills. So I remember
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Speaker 3: watching like Billy Currell's at that time. He did things
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Speaker 3: Black Girls Say. Matt already been watching YouTube, Lisa and Dormtainment,
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Speaker 3: Tim Chyna, wrong Suit, all those people. But it didn't
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Speaker 3: seem like a viable business for me because I didn't
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Speaker 3: know how that worked. But Billy Sorel's is a comedian
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Speaker 3: and I knew and he was the His video did
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Speaker 3: like nine million views. So I thought, if we can
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Speaker 3: go on the internet and make people laugh, then when
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Speaker 3: we go do our plays, then people will be like, oh,
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Speaker 3: I saw them on the Internet.
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Speaker 1: I'll come to the place.
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Speaker 3: Then as we started first two videos, he did things
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Speaker 3: Black Church Girl Say and Things Black Parents Say. Both
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Speaker 3: went really viral a million views at that time. That
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Speaker 3: was a lot of views on use still a lot,
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Speaker 3: but that happens more often now than it used to,
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Speaker 3: And at that moment, I was like, Oh, actually, the
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Speaker 3: Internet is a thing of its own, Like if we
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Speaker 3: just do that that we should focus on building that,
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Speaker 3: and then churches would bring us out. We would do
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Speaker 3: stand up all over the United States doing me and
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Speaker 3: my brother and aunt. And then after that, I was
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Speaker 3: like I need to do my own stuff. Like pretty
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Speaker 3: much instantly, I was like, I don't want to get
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Speaker 3: boxing and just doing church stuff because then that's all
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Speaker 3: people will.
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Speaker 1: Let you do.
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Speaker 3: So I started my kevil on Stage YouTube page, which
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Speaker 3: is almost at a million followers, which has been a
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Speaker 3: golden mine from the very beginning, but it's been harder
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Speaker 3: because the algorithm doesn't encourage you to subscribe like it
14:39
Speaker 3: used to, because it's all just like recommended. But the
14:43
Speaker 3: internet became the goal and since then I probably been
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Speaker 3: making a video every single day. So to answer your question,
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Speaker 3: it was those two videos and then all deaf. When
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Speaker 3: I moved to La I got a job there, and
14:56
Speaker 3: actually that was kind of tough because I had to
14:58
Speaker 3: take a step back from being town because they were like,
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Speaker 3: you are here to nurture the other people. You ain't
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Speaker 3: gonna build your channel, you ain't gonna do none of
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Speaker 3: that stuff. You do all that on your own time.
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Speaker 3: And I got fired from Boeing previously, and I was like,
15:10
Speaker 3: I can't get fired from noo jobs no more. And
15:11
Speaker 3: it was hard to get a job in LA, so
15:13
Speaker 3: I made sure I focused on those talent company Boeing,
15:17
Speaker 3: the playing company I was in there.
15:21
Speaker 1: You did quality control them.
15:22
Speaker 3: I have nothing to do with them flying, I have
15:25
Speaker 3: nothing to do with them crashing.
15:26
Speaker 1: I was doing a little bit of working there.
15:28
Speaker 3: I ain't do much in there, but All Death helped
15:31
Speaker 3: me to develop other talent and help me to develop shows.
15:34
Speaker 1: Like my job.
15:35
Speaker 3: I was ahead of talent and head of talent and
15:38
Speaker 3: head of creative at All Death at the same time.
15:41
Speaker 3: So I helped, you know, bring talent in, develop them
15:43
Speaker 3: and also help develop in those shows. So roast me
15:46
Speaker 3: great taste. All those shows were developed underneath me. They
15:49
Speaker 3: were not my ideas, like Patrick and Teddy and to
15:54
Speaker 3: hear in all those groups, you know Meg, they would
15:56
Speaker 3: create the shows, but we brainstorm and stuff like that.
15:59
Speaker 3: So you have to wrestle. Was Russelling at that time.
16:01
Speaker 3: He's the one who hired me. Russell hired me. He
16:04
Speaker 3: called me. I had a meeting with him and I
16:05
Speaker 3: was pitching a movie and he was like, we don't
16:07
Speaker 3: want to do this, but why don't you come run
16:10
Speaker 3: talent for me? Called me as I left his house
16:12
Speaker 3: and I started like within two weeks and now.
16:14
Speaker 4: We're the guy there too. Like I did a couple
16:16
Speaker 4: episodes of The Cooler Yeah, and like I remember like
16:20
Speaker 4: people just the way that they talked about you and
16:23
Speaker 4: just y'all team in the office. I was like, Okay,
16:24
Speaker 4: if you do this, like you make it next and
16:26
Speaker 4: then you see like to hear like everybody's everywhere.
16:29
Speaker 1: Now.
16:29
Speaker 4: How impactful was Russell Simmons on your career then and
16:32
Speaker 4: just being at all that digital.
16:33
Speaker 3: Oh, I think the opportunity that he gave me was
16:37
Speaker 3: life changing.
16:38
Speaker 1: Like skill wise, I should not have had that job.
16:42
Speaker 3: Absolutely lied in my interview about the teams I ran,
16:45
Speaker 3: oh man, I had thirty tailers here, people that Boeing,
16:48
Speaker 3: I had this many people working under me.
16:49
Speaker 1: Nobody reporting to God thought that. I mean, you know
16:51
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He probably like, you gotta get it,
16:54
Speaker 1: how you fit in? You know what I'm saying. He understood.
16:56
Speaker 3: I might not have been his proudest moment of me,
16:59
Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying, I gotta be kids,
17:00
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So, but I was a
17:03
Speaker 3: firm believer. You give me this job, I'll do this job.
17:05
Speaker 3: I might not be prepared but I went in there
17:07
Speaker 3: and got it together. But yeah, without that job, it
17:12
Speaker 3: was like digital media college for me. Like I learned
17:15
Speaker 3: how to make six episodes in a day.
17:17
Speaker 1: It's funny.
17:17
Speaker 3: We just went to WrestleMania last night, I mean raw
17:20
Speaker 3: wrestling last night, and we were early and I saw
17:23
Speaker 3: them taping other shows ahead of time, and I was like,
17:25
Speaker 3: that's that's efficient, Like that's how we would have thought
17:28
Speaker 3: of that. You got these people here, you can shoot.
17:30
Speaker 3: They shot I think speed before they shot Saturday night
17:33
Speaker 3: to Maine event. You have all this talent here cycling
17:35
Speaker 3: them through. We was making great tastes, were making six
17:37
Speaker 3: eight episodes a day because we didn't have a lot
17:39
Speaker 3: of money, so we had to learn how to maximize
17:42
Speaker 3: our time and our budget efficient, be efficient with content,
17:45
Speaker 3: with ideas, how to make more with less. So that
17:48
Speaker 3: type of thinking is what trained me to be more
17:51
Speaker 3: successful eventually start my own app Patreon. Like that's how
17:54
Speaker 3: I was taught to do that. Actually, before that, I
17:57
Speaker 3: was working at Awesome, this TV, which is the kid
18:00
Speaker 3: version of All Death. My kids were Jaz and Jojo.
18:02
Speaker 3: They had to show on Awesome. It's called crazy, I say.
18:06
Speaker 3: So I learned from them unpaid. I went and sat
18:09
Speaker 3: in their staff meetings when we moved down and I
18:10
Speaker 3: was like, hey, can I just come sit in the
18:11
Speaker 3: staff meetings. So for two years before or like a
18:14
Speaker 3: year before I got to even at All Death, I
18:16
Speaker 3: would be at their staff meetings every day, just taking notes,
18:19
Speaker 3: seeing how they thought about stuff, seeing how they did
18:21
Speaker 3: brand deals. So when I went to All Death, I
18:23
Speaker 3: had all that knowledge from awesomeness, So I knew what
18:25
Speaker 3: I was talking about in the interview, and I actually
18:27
Speaker 3: knew how to do the job.
18:28
Speaker 1: I just had never done the job.
18:29
Speaker 2: Who was your inspiration as comedians coming up?
18:32
Speaker 1: Uh? Stand up wise?
18:35
Speaker 3: Uh? Probably my biggest was Arnest Jay's probably my favorite comedian.
18:39
Speaker 3: He's just so physical. He didn't care whatever. He was
18:41
Speaker 3: gonna make you laugh. Sindbad was gonna make you laugh.
18:45
Speaker 3: He didn't cuss, But Simbad doesn't cuss, but you don't
18:49
Speaker 3: notice he doesn't cuss, which was what my goal was.
18:51
Speaker 3: I don't want you to like be like, oh, this
18:53
Speaker 3: is non cussing guy's funny. I wanted people to leave
18:55
Speaker 3: and be like.
18:56
Speaker 1: I don't think I even heard him cuss.
18:57
Speaker 3: And that's how Simbad was. Ernie Mack probably made me
19:01
Speaker 3: laugh harder than I ever did his death comedy Jam special,
19:05
Speaker 3: and me and my wife saw him in Kings of Comedy,
19:08
Speaker 3: and that set is probably the most flawless stand upset
19:10
Speaker 3: to me, Eddie Murphy as a goal of how big
19:14
Speaker 3: a comedian could be. And then more recently Kevin Hart,
19:17
Speaker 3: like Kevin Hart is funny, and Sony disciplines so to
19:20
Speaker 3: be funny on stand up podcast, TV movies like that's
19:24
Speaker 3: how I see myself with the regular conversation just interviewing. Yeah,
19:28
Speaker 3: Like to me, his offhand comedy is some of his
19:31
Speaker 3: best work.
19:31
Speaker 1: Cod is Balls.
19:32
Speaker 3: He's funny, but you get him in the interview sion
19:34
Speaker 3: scenario and you realize just how funny he is.
19:37
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:37
Speaker 3: So I think all those people, probably even Jonathan Slocum
19:40
Speaker 3: was probably the first one, though he's a black church comedian.
19:43
Speaker 3: He had a tape called laugh Yourself to Life that
19:46
Speaker 3: my parents listen to all the time to and from church,
19:50
Speaker 3: And that's the person who probably made me think that
19:52
Speaker 3: you could even do stand up related to church things
19:54
Speaker 3: and it could be funny. When did you start noticing
19:56
Speaker 3: the comedy in the church, Like do you remember that
19:58
Speaker 3: first thing that you saw in the church that you
20:00
Speaker 3: found funny. Oh manly, there's so many things. Sister Lewis
20:07
Speaker 3: was Sister Lewis in our church. She might have been
20:10
Speaker 3: not laughing.
20:10
Speaker 1: You ain't say God, bless God rest her. So I
20:13
Speaker 1: didn't want to bring it down.
20:14
Speaker 2: But I'm like, she got to be about one hundred
20:16
Speaker 2: and five Lewis.
20:18
Speaker 1: God, Sister Lewis went on to be with him.
20:21
Speaker 5: But it is so tabbern at.
20:25
Speaker 3: But she worked like two jobs, but she loved church
20:28
Speaker 3: and she could never stay awake, so to wake herself up,
20:31
Speaker 3: she would yell out.
20:32
Speaker 1: So she fell asleep.
20:33
Speaker 3: God is amazing like that, and everybody would look me,
20:37
Speaker 3: it's your sister Lewis. But she'd do what when you're
20:39
Speaker 3: preaching in the most inopportune moments, she would wake up
20:41
Speaker 3: and scream out. And I was like, nobody is saying
20:44
Speaker 3: anything about this. So when we get home and be
20:46
Speaker 3: like yeah, and then we'd be eating, then I'll be like, ye're.
20:48
Speaker 1: Never Sister Lewis, God.
20:49
Speaker 3: Is amazing and my grandma and then would bust out laughing.
20:52
Speaker 3: And she did that from like my whole childhood, like
20:54
Speaker 3: ten years straight. Nobody ever stopped her. Nobody ever said, hey,
20:57
Speaker 3: it's okay not to come. You can, you know, rest.
21:00
Speaker 3: So that's probably the first thing I noticed that was funny.
21:02
Speaker 3: And that's the first thing I I copied.
21:04
Speaker 1: Did you do that joking for the house? Oh? Yeah?
21:06
Speaker 1: And she thought it was hilarious. And she could never
21:07
Speaker 1: pronounce my name. My name is Kevin. She'd be like.
21:10
Speaker 3: Coln and I would always be like cow. And they,
21:13
Speaker 3: my family thought that was hilarious. My great grandma was hilarious.
21:17
Speaker 3: She had a little, you know, five o'clock shadow. Yeah,
21:20
Speaker 3: she was. She was big, prickly. She had George Clooney,
21:23
Speaker 3: same beard like that. Yeah, she was bearded up.
21:27
Speaker 1: You said you had that, dude, No, I had aunts
21:29
Speaker 1: like that.
21:29
Speaker 4: I had like a I don't want to call him. Well,
21:31
Speaker 4: they're not here no more. Had I had great great
21:33
Speaker 4: when I was younger. I remember my great great aunts
21:35
Speaker 4: down in Virginia. They were all very prickly. O, this
21:38
Speaker 4: is not supposed.
21:39
Speaker 5: I always was a little confused.
21:40
Speaker 3: Yes, so I make for my grandma like grandma, you
21:45
Speaker 3: you got this, you got a beard. And my my my,
21:48
Speaker 3: that was my great grandma, my grandma, my mom. My
21:50
Speaker 3: whole family thought that was funny. We had a family
21:52
Speaker 3: of nine in a three bedroom house. So laughter is
21:55
Speaker 3: what kept us like saying, I guess. And we had
21:58
Speaker 3: a dog too. It was like, we don't have enough
22:00
Speaker 3: money to feed us while we got the dog. But
22:03
Speaker 3: that was that was not unusual, you know what I'm saying.
22:06
Speaker 3: So we were poor, but we didn't know we were
22:07
Speaker 3: poor because we were full of love and laughter. And
22:09
Speaker 3: that's kind of how I saw the world. So that
22:12
Speaker 3: was that was my approach.
22:13
Speaker 2: Now, your wife has been with you, y you'all been
22:15
Speaker 2: together twenty years. Over twenty years, twenty years.
22:17
Speaker 3: May When I'm watching you tell your story, she's she's exciting,
22:22
Speaker 3: Like when you said the forty dollars things, she.
22:24
Speaker 4: Was like, y'all are one of my favorite husband and
22:28
Speaker 4: wife content duo. I mean, and I know you got
22:30
Speaker 4: your own things that you do, but like y'all together
22:32
Speaker 4: and it's separately. It's just like like I bounced back
22:35
Speaker 4: and forth time.
22:36
Speaker 1: Thank you. She always believed, always believed God. You both
22:43
Speaker 1: always believed. I don't know if she.
22:46
Speaker 3: Was always believing in my version of how to get
22:48
Speaker 3: to things, because like when I went, for example, when
22:50
Speaker 3: I wanted to move to La, I was like I
22:53
Speaker 3: had written this whole plan that I submitted to her.
22:55
Speaker 1: I submitted to her.
22:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Listen, we submit to each other.
23:00
Speaker 3: So I was like, I want to move to La.
23:01
Speaker 3: Here's my plan. And part of the plan was, let's
23:04
Speaker 3: give our house up for foreclosure. Like, who cares, I'm
23:06
Speaker 3: gonna get to La. I'm gonna get I'm gonna make
23:08
Speaker 3: it back in cash, you know, let the house go.
23:10
Speaker 3: Because it's during the housing crisis. I was like, everybody's
23:12
Speaker 3: house is foreclosing. I'm gonna get it back. And she
23:14
Speaker 3: was like, or we could rent it out. And I
23:16
Speaker 3: was like, oh, snap, that's that's genius because it was
23:18
Speaker 3: upside down at the time by like forty thousand dollars
23:22
Speaker 3: and that.
23:23
Speaker 2: Forty thousand numbers stuff a lot of money.
23:27
Speaker 3: Yes, we couldn't even sell it, but we rented it
23:30
Speaker 3: out and lo and behold, it's up over its value now.
23:33
Speaker 3: So I think she she's helped me to steer those
23:36
Speaker 3: things into a foreseeable thing. But she's never been like no.
23:41
Speaker 1: Now.
23:41
Speaker 3: The first time when I got fired from my job,
23:44
Speaker 3: that was the first time I showed this. This is
23:46
Speaker 3: when I got fired from Key Bank back in Washington, Jesus, how.
23:48
Speaker 1: Many time you got about it? Once? I quit? I
23:51
Speaker 1: quit boring here.
23:52
Speaker 3: I got fired from Key Bank, and I deserved it,
23:55
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't a good employee. I was making color
23:58
Speaker 3: copies of comedy show flyers I left there, you know,
24:00
Speaker 3: in the glass. I was doing all type of stuff.
24:02
Speaker 3: Have my feet on the desk. Told my era of
24:05
Speaker 3: retail lead manager. She was like, what are your goals
24:07
Speaker 3: here at the company? And I told this woman who
24:09
Speaker 3: oversaw all the banks in the PG sound, I don't.
24:12
Speaker 3: I don't plan on working here. I'm just working here
24:14
Speaker 3: till I make it. And she was like huh. And
24:17
Speaker 3: I came home and told my wife that.
24:18
Speaker 1: She was like, why would you tell that lady that?
24:20
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's that's the truth.
24:23
Speaker 3: Fired ninety days from that day on the dot. Literally,
24:26
Speaker 3: I got put on a performance in planning that next monday.
24:28
Speaker 3: Was fired ninety days from that that monday.
24:31
Speaker 1: Kevin moving in another direction, dreams.
24:36
Speaker 3: That's what they told me. They were like, you don't.
24:38
Speaker 3: The lady was like, you don't. You don't need to
24:40
Speaker 3: be here. Somebody who needs to be at this job
24:42
Speaker 3: needs to be here. You're not You're not focused on that,
24:44
Speaker 3: so I forgot where I.
24:46
Speaker 1: Was going with that.
24:48
Speaker 5: How your wife is your saving Oh yeah, yeah.
24:50
Speaker 1: My wife is my saving girl.
24:50
Speaker 5: Thank you.
24:51
Speaker 3: Uh So that was when I told my wife I
24:54
Speaker 3: don't actually want to do a job.
24:56
Speaker 1: I want to do stand up.
24:57
Speaker 3: So she was like, well, this is the first I'm
25:00
Speaker 3: ever hearing of this, Like how we supposed to feed
25:03
Speaker 3: these kids because in Tacoma that wasn't a feasible option.
25:07
Speaker 2: How many kids that time?
25:08
Speaker 3: We had two boys, two under four. I think my
25:10
Speaker 3: son was three and one when I got fired, or
25:13
Speaker 3: four and two somewhere around there. And she did not believe.
25:16
Speaker 3: She just didn't see how that was feasible. So what
25:19
Speaker 3: she said was, let's work on a plan to get there.
25:22
Speaker 3: Part of that work includes you getting a job and
25:25
Speaker 3: show me how you can do stand up and how
25:28
Speaker 3: that can be feasible. But until then, let's do it.
25:30
Speaker 3: So that's what we did. We made a plan. I
25:32
Speaker 3: went and got a job. That's how I got the
25:34
Speaker 3: job at Boying, worked on my craft, worked my job
25:36
Speaker 3: at Boying, then didn't stand up at night. Nates became Thursdays,
25:40
Speaker 3: and then I would do a show on Thursday, and
25:41
Speaker 3: then somebody else on Friday, and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
25:43
Speaker 3: and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And now I'm like, oh,
25:46
Speaker 3: I'm making not much money but a couple hundred bucks
25:48
Speaker 3: here and there, which at that time was still a
25:50
Speaker 3: lot of money. Still today's a lot of money. Now
25:52
Speaker 3: comedy's paying for a bill here and there. First it
25:54
Speaker 3: was just gum, then gas, then the cell phone bill,
25:57
Speaker 3: then the electric bill. So then when the Internet came
26:00
Speaker 3: in and Austin This TV offered us, offered me a
26:03
Speaker 3: contract to write, direct, produce, shoot and edit my kids videos.
26:08
Speaker 3: Now comedy became income and she was like, Okay, now
26:12
Speaker 3: I can see it. So that's when we moved to LA.
26:14
Speaker 3: Works her awesomeness, got another job with Tracy Edmonds eventually
26:17
Speaker 3: led to the job to Tracy.
26:18
Speaker 1: Yeah out to Tracy. Tracy Trady don't get the credit
26:21
Speaker 1: she deserve. She doesn't another black person. She gave us.
26:23
Speaker 3: Actually, the fifty thousand dollars we used to move to
26:26
Speaker 3: LA was split between the three of me and Jay,
26:29
Speaker 3: but that's the money that we used to move to LA.
26:31
Speaker 3: She gave us fifty thousand dollars to make ten videos
26:33
Speaker 3: for all Right TV, which was her YouTube, her version
26:36
Speaker 3: of like all deat Digital, which was like a faith
26:38
Speaker 3: based thing. But then she also taught us the game, right.
26:41
Speaker 3: She taught us everything she knew. She invited us to
26:43
Speaker 3: the house. I ain't gonna tell your story. I ain't
26:46
Speaker 3: gonna tell your story as a husband. There was a
26:48
Speaker 3: great funny story there, but that's your story to tell.
26:52
Speaker 3: She put us on the game. She kept up for
26:53
Speaker 3: as long as she could. The company run out of money.
26:55
Speaker 3: You want to tell the story, pull up a seat.
27:00
Speaker 5: Are so good together?
27:01
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then all Bright TV fell apart, and
27:03
Speaker 3: then she was like, hey guys, it did the best
27:05
Speaker 3: I could. And she moved on, which was actually a
27:07
Speaker 3: lessoning of itself. It's like people can help you, but
27:09
Speaker 3: when that money ends, it's every man for themselves. Like
27:12
Speaker 3: she it's no hard feelings, she said, brother, they no
27:14
Speaker 3: more money.
27:15
Speaker 1: Like I made the investment. She made the investment. She
27:17
Speaker 1: moved on to her other projects.
27:18
Speaker 3: At that point, I learned, oh, it's not even no
27:20
Speaker 3: heart feelings, like brother, I did what I could did
27:21
Speaker 3: we did business. I helped you as much as I could,
27:23
Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna reach in my personal pocket to
27:25
Speaker 3: help you like we do business together, we shake hands,
27:28
Speaker 3: we go our separate ways, So that was very valuable.
27:30
Speaker 3: And also shout out to her. I don't think we
27:31
Speaker 3: would have been able to move to LA without Tracy
27:33
Speaker 3: Edmond because we didn't have the hard cash to move families.
27:37
Speaker 3: It was three families, me my family, my brother's family move,
27:39
Speaker 3: and Ant's family all moved. We split that fifty thousand
27:43
Speaker 3: shot and edited the videos ourselves. Kept that money, paid
27:46
Speaker 3: off this credit card that we had that was ten
27:47
Speaker 3: thousand dollars that was built on stupid mistakes.
27:51
Speaker 1: I could take twenty nine percent interest. Oh I'd love
27:54
Speaker 1: to have Tracy on Breakfast Club, but no, no, hit
27:56
Speaker 1: her up.
27:57
Speaker 3: She's amazing like she and I agree, she doesn't the
28:00
Speaker 3: credit she deserves for what kind of brilliant producer she is.
28:04
Speaker 3: And just like a solid person, like she was a
28:07
Speaker 3: solid individual. She did more than she had to for us,
28:11
Speaker 3: and I'm eternally grateful. Still sends us Christmas cards to
28:14
Speaker 3: this day, Like that's how solid a person she is.
28:16
Speaker 1: So yeah, shout out to her. You know, damn I
28:20
Speaker 1: want to.
28:20
Speaker 3: Oh, you know you were talking about working at Bowing,
28:22
Speaker 3: And the reason I think that's so powerful is because
28:24
Speaker 3: one thing I always tell people is that there's one
28:26
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty eight hours in a week. That's more
28:29
Speaker 3: than enough time to chase your dreams and deal with
28:32
Speaker 3: your reality. Yes, absolutely, I so boeing. I by the
28:37
Speaker 3: grace of God, that job was very easy and didn't
28:39
Speaker 3: take a lot of time. So I studied YouTube at
28:41
Speaker 3: that time. That's when I really learned how what makes
28:44
Speaker 3: a good video. I spent my time studying there, and
28:46
Speaker 3: then when I left Boring in my first tour, I
28:48
Speaker 3: worked at all death Monday through Thursday. I worked remote
28:52
Speaker 3: on Friday, did stand up Friday in one city, another
28:54
Speaker 3: city Saturday, another city Sunday, then flew back to la
28:57
Speaker 3: on Monday morning and went to work Monday through Thursday
29:00
Speaker 3: again for a whole year. Like I worked my job,
29:03
Speaker 3: And I tell people like, you don't have to rush
29:05
Speaker 3: to quit your job to do this, Like it should
29:09
Speaker 3: be so obvious that you can't keep up with both.
29:11
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people stun their growth because
29:13
Speaker 3: they want content to be their job so bad, and
29:15
Speaker 3: content is up and down, like how much money U
29:17
Speaker 3: is up and down? Brandos is up and down. That
29:19
Speaker 3: nine to five is your first real investment into yourself
29:22
Speaker 3: and into your company. It allows you to have health insurance,
29:25
Speaker 3: pay your bills, and allow your money from your business, content, comedy,
29:29
Speaker 3: whatever to be excess money as opposed to build money,
29:32
Speaker 3: because then people get frustrated it's not the money.
29:34
Speaker 1: Then you lose creativity because you're.
29:36
Speaker 3: Worried about survival and as you and you gotta survive first.
29:39
Speaker 3: So if your stability is rocky, creativity can't flow if
29:43
Speaker 3: you can't think about I'm hungry, where am I gonna eat?
29:45
Speaker 3: Where am I gonna sleep? So once that's taken care of,
29:48
Speaker 3: then you can flow creatively. In my opinion, and I
29:51
Speaker 3: was not afraid to work hard, so at Boing, I
29:54
Speaker 3: would go to the breakroom and find a nondescript wall
29:57
Speaker 3: and make my video, or walk all the way to
29:58
Speaker 3: my car on my lunch break, make a video, shoot it, edit,
30:01
Speaker 3: edit it, post it, and then go back to my job.
30:04
Speaker 3: Never talked about none of my videos. I wasn't gonna
30:05
Speaker 3: make the same mistake. I made a key bank, and
30:08
Speaker 3: I took that money and built my comedy career on
30:11
Speaker 3: the internet and stand up.
30:13
Speaker 1: And worked that regular job. All at the same time.
30:16
Speaker 4: I see that your YouTube channel is Kevi on stage studios.
30:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have two. I have Kevi on stage, which
30:22
Speaker 3: was the first one. Then I have Kevin on stage
30:23
Speaker 3: studios as well.
30:24
Speaker 4: At what point did you understand why you needed Kevi
30:26
Speaker 4: on stage studios? Do you get what I'm saying.
30:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was actually there was I don't know
30:32
Speaker 3: if y'all remember this, but Logan Paul went to this
30:36
Speaker 3: suicide forest in Japan. Yeah, and they called what people
30:40
Speaker 3: called the ad apocalypse. Everybody's revenue dropped. All these advertisers
30:45
Speaker 3: pulled their money out of YouTube. So that's the first
30:47
Speaker 3: thing that I realized. I was like, oh, this can
30:49
Speaker 3: go away. And the second thing that happened there was
30:51
Speaker 3: some sort of like child trafficking pedophile situation on YouTube,
30:56
Speaker 3: and they had they were like doing these playlists in
31:00
Speaker 3: finding kids, like basically kids doing innocuous things, going swimming,
31:04
Speaker 3: and they would put like numbers in the comments. So
31:06
Speaker 3: basically everybody who had children on their channel, all their
31:08
Speaker 3: comments got blocked, right, and that kills the engagement, kills
31:12
Speaker 3: the views. So in order to get comments back, I
31:15
Speaker 3: started Kevin Stage Studios just to keep the engagement back
31:19
Speaker 3: right and also to get rid of that. Logan Paul situation.
31:22
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe I saw a new channel. It'll
31:24
Speaker 3: be getting different ads, and then I realized, I'll just
31:27
Speaker 3: do long form content kevil on Stage studios and things
31:30
Speaker 3: that are not just me and Kevi on stage will
31:32
Speaker 3: just be my personal point of view. So Kevil on
31:34
Speaker 3: Stage Studios actually is much more of a healthy channel,
31:37
Speaker 3: even with less subscribers, because that's where I put my podcasts.
31:40
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Shout out to that chick Angel and Joshi,
31:42
Speaker 3: they're my co host. And here's the thing. When we
31:45
Speaker 3: were doing bigger shows, I would put them on Kevil
31:48
Speaker 3: on Stage studios and things like that. So that was
31:51
Speaker 3: really the difference. So people know, if you just want me,
31:53
Speaker 3: it's Kevin stage. You want me, or other people or
31:56
Speaker 3: things that don't have me, then that would be Kevin's
32:00
Speaker 3: Stage Studios. Which is my goal eventually to be able
32:02
Speaker 3: to produce content for other people, not just for myself
32:05
Speaker 3: or not featuring myself. So that's what Kemon Statee Studios came.
32:08
Speaker 1: Don't looks like him and Drewsy could be like brothers.
32:10
Speaker 1: Get a lot absolutely that, No, didn't die.
32:17
Speaker 3: All the time, Juiceky was bald, and you know we're
32:19
Speaker 3: both heavier set individuals. So I do get that a lot,
32:23
Speaker 3: and also get that I look like a lot of people.
32:25
Speaker 3: People like, look at this person like you, keV. If
32:27
Speaker 3: you light skinning beard, nobody famous, you know what I'm saying,
32:32
Speaker 3: Just a lot of there's a lot of light skinned,
32:34
Speaker 3: bald men with beards, and pretty much anybody who looks
32:37
Speaker 3: like that, they'd be like, you look like keV.
32:39
Speaker 1: You and Juicy definitely got.
32:40
Speaker 3: A yeah something Yeah. Shout out to Juice ky Man.
32:43
Speaker 3: He's an amazing, amazing talent, just cultural anthropologists through comedy.
32:48
Speaker 1: Absolutely all the time.
32:50
Speaker 3: He has a way of capturing culture through his yeah
32:56
Speaker 3: sketches one thousand percent, and it's not just black culture.
32:58
Speaker 3: He I first saw Hi when he was doing Kyle
33:00
Speaker 3: Rogert for frat videos and I.
33:02
Speaker 1: Went to a PWI.
33:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to Washington University of Washington, and I
33:06
Speaker 3: was like, them white boys be just like that, and
33:09
Speaker 3: you almost forget he's acting like he is the black
33:12
Speaker 3: dude in that white fraternity, Like we knew those guys.
33:15
Speaker 3: But you know, the the Yan videos, the London video Tide, Yeah,
33:19
Speaker 3: roll Tide, Like he look he could be a really
33:22
Speaker 3: good comedic actor. I think he has the ability and creatively,
33:27
Speaker 3: it's just genius to me. Like what he's done with
33:29
Speaker 3: the Internet is amazing, very impressive. The life from the
33:32
Speaker 3: back pew, Yeah, why'd you call it the back pew.
33:35
Speaker 1: The back pew, the backpew tour.
33:37
Speaker 3: I called it that because, like I wanted to differentiate
33:40
Speaker 3: my style of humor versus like just church humor, because
33:44
Speaker 3: there's a lot of reverence and you know, there's a
33:47
Speaker 3: lot of sacrilege in church. I was a kid who
33:49
Speaker 3: was in church every not just Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
33:53
Speaker 3: We literally were in Bible study, evangelistical service, prayer, choir, rehearsal,
33:58
Speaker 3: then church and we always had a sittle, a black pew,
34:00
Speaker 3: and the back pew was like we in church, but
34:02
Speaker 3: we also plan, you know what I'm saying. So the
34:04
Speaker 3: way we saw stuff, that's like the vision I had
34:07
Speaker 3: of church was from the back pew. You had to go.
34:09
Speaker 3: You don't have to sit in the front. You didn't
34:10
Speaker 3: always have to participate in every service, but you had
34:13
Speaker 3: to go. And so my mom actually maybe participate, but
34:16
Speaker 3: I had to play drums or singing the choir, gir
34:18
Speaker 3: all that type of stuff. But the back pew is
34:20
Speaker 3: so people know, like, I'm gonna be in church, but
34:22
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be every joke's not gonna be about church.
34:24
Speaker 3: I have a whole set segment where I just talk
34:26
Speaker 3: about regular stuff. I knew want of people to know
34:29
Speaker 3: it's for church kids, but black people. Even if you
34:31
Speaker 3: didn't grow up in church, you have a concept of
34:33
Speaker 3: black church. But even never been to church, you can
34:35
Speaker 3: still come to this show because if you've only been once,
34:37
Speaker 3: you might probably sat on the back pew. So I
34:39
Speaker 3: wanted people to have an idea of what show they
34:41
Speaker 3: were coming to, so they would know, like, it's not
34:43
Speaker 3: gonna be every joke about God, but it's also not
34:46
Speaker 3: gonna be so ridiculous that you're like, I shouldn't even
34:48
Speaker 3: be in the church. So I kind of walked that line.
34:50
Speaker 3: So that's why I call it Life from the back People.
34:52
Speaker 3: Are you trying to get people into the church with
34:53
Speaker 3: your comedy? I believe that is probably one of my
34:56
Speaker 3: subconscious goals. I don't think that's the intent, but I
34:59
Speaker 3: feel like it is my way where I feel like
35:01
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different types of ministries. There's music,
35:03
Speaker 3: there's preaching, there's pastoring, and I think comedy is one
35:07
Speaker 3: because a lot of black people are hurt by the church.
35:09
Speaker 3: They have negative feelings about the church, and like, man,
35:12
Speaker 3: this take, it's only fifty bucks and it's keV. Maybe
35:15
Speaker 3: maybe I'll give it one more shot and then they
35:17
Speaker 3: if they just come in and don't have a negative experience,
35:20
Speaker 3: maybe they'll be interested in coming back. So I think
35:22
Speaker 3: that's probably one of my sub goals, is to just
35:25
Speaker 3: do my part, you know what I'm saying. Because black
35:28
Speaker 3: church number, church in general numbers are dwindling, especially post COVID,
35:33
Speaker 3: and I don't want the Black church to not exist anymore.
35:36
Speaker 3: So I think absolutely that's probably part of my goal.
35:38
Speaker 3: I think it's because of the Internet too, though, Like
35:40
Speaker 3: I do bedside Baptists every Sunday, I'm in a Potter House
35:43
Speaker 3: on Sunday morning.
35:44
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't think you negative.
35:46
Speaker 3: I think the pandemic made people realize, oh, I can
35:49
Speaker 3: actually watch church from here and a lot of and
35:52
Speaker 3: listen Potter's House Transformation Church. They have top tier production,
35:57
Speaker 3: like you feel like you're watching TV. It's not just
35:59
Speaker 3: like one guy the back with an iPhone like they have.
36:02
Speaker 3: They have the whole team hundreds of thousand dollars in
36:05
Speaker 3: sound equipment, video equipment, top of the line production staff
36:08
Speaker 3: and services, their internets, Instagram social media is up to
36:12
Speaker 3: par like any NFL team as well. So I do agree,
36:15
Speaker 3: Like I don't think you have to physically go in
36:17
Speaker 3: the church anymore. I think there's so many different ways
36:19
Speaker 3: to engage with people the Bible app, YouTube, like Pastor
36:23
Speaker 3: Yepj's one my favorite preachers, and I engage with him
36:25
Speaker 3: on Instagram in two to three minute bits. Sarah Jake Roberts,
36:28
Speaker 3: who I know you're a fan of. She's great online
36:32
Speaker 3: on digital. I think she's actually so important to the
36:34
Speaker 3: Black Church because especially how her journey started and where
36:38
Speaker 3: it is now, Like a lot of people need to
36:40
Speaker 3: see the Sarah Jakes Roberts at the poolpit, person who
36:43
Speaker 3: wasn't perfect and who was outcast like I was growing
36:46
Speaker 3: up remembering how people were talking about her, so to
36:48
Speaker 3: see where she is now and the fact that she doesn't,
36:51
Speaker 3: you know, shy away from her past, and how good
36:54
Speaker 3: she is at speaking and communicating you know, God's word.
36:57
Speaker 3: I think she's super important, but also be simone's an
37:01
Speaker 3: important voice right like her turning to God, my niece
37:05
Speaker 3: is a hood little sweet baby, and she got a
37:13
Speaker 3: face tattooed, and she she loves be Someone's comedy. So
37:17
Speaker 3: when Be Simone says I'm giving my life to Christ,
37:19
Speaker 3: my niece sees herself in more Be Simone than Sarah
37:22
Speaker 3: Jake's or TD Jakes. So I think everybody's journey is important,
37:26
Speaker 3: not just the pastors. It's everybody has a role to play.
37:28
Speaker 3: So I just want to play my role and do
37:30
Speaker 3: my part. Now I love it because, you know, I
37:32
Speaker 3: feel like we got to bring I know this sounds crazy,
37:35
Speaker 3: but you got to bring God. You gotta meet people
37:37
Speaker 3: where they are basic. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,
37:39
Speaker 3: you know, you can't just think people are going to
37:41
Speaker 3: come into the church or go on YouTube. And there's
37:43
Speaker 3: certain people like yourself, like Sarah Jakes who know how
37:46
Speaker 3: to connect with culture. You know, Like I got Sarah
37:49
Speaker 3: Jake's headlining the Black Effects Podcast Festival that I do
37:52
Speaker 3: every years on April twenty six, and it's for that
37:55
Speaker 3: reason because I know she knows how to connect with coaching. Absolutely,
37:58
Speaker 3: I think you need people who speak that language. I believe.
38:02
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what really messed me up. As
38:03
Speaker 3: a young Christian, I thought we were all playing by
38:06
Speaker 3: the same rules. Like they said we're not drinking, were
38:08
Speaker 3: really not drinking, and nobody's drinking, right, So I'm thinking
38:11
Speaker 3: that's the truth. And then I'm not even talking about
38:13
Speaker 3: the church. I'm talking about my actual family. I remember
38:15
Speaker 3: I was eighteen, came back, I went to visit my
38:17
Speaker 3: grandma's and there was some zemas in the refrigerator. I
38:20
Speaker 3: was like, yo, it's demas. We don't drink, and my
38:23
Speaker 3: aunt was like, you don't drink.
38:25
Speaker 1: I was like, what, No, our whole life it was this.
38:27
Speaker 3: She was like, well, we don't talk about it, but
38:28
Speaker 3: keV come on, we drink. And then when I started
38:30
Speaker 3: working in the church, I realized pastors are like, well,
38:32
Speaker 3: this is how I live my life, but I don't
38:34
Speaker 3: want to mess up to the flock, so I do this.
38:35
Speaker 3: And I think most people's problem a lot of problems
38:38
Speaker 3: with Christianities. People have one life they live as a
38:41
Speaker 3: Christian and one life they actually live.
38:44
Speaker 1: So I refused to live two separate lives.
38:46
Speaker 3: So I got in trouble with the Christian community because
38:48
Speaker 3: I went to the reunion concert which was at the Forum,
38:51
Speaker 3: and I was drinking and I made a realio brother
38:53
Speaker 3: of Kirk, Franklin, Delana and the Addams. They were at
38:56
Speaker 3: the Forum and I was drinking. I made a video.
38:58
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, I'm drinking it at
39:00
Speaker 3: the gospel concert. This is incongruent. And I was I
39:03
Speaker 3: thought it was funny and they were so, man.
39:05
Speaker 1: How dare you drink? How dare you?
39:07
Speaker 3: I was like this, this is at the Forum. Like
39:09
Speaker 3: I saw Bruno martinet two weeks ago. The line was
39:12
Speaker 3: long at the bar. She said, oh my god, it
39:14
Speaker 3: was water thirty seconds ago, but now it's wine. Jesus, Yeah,
39:21
Speaker 3: I didn't think of that. But I'm like, I'm not
39:26
Speaker 3: gonna act like I don't drink. You don't like I'm
39:28
Speaker 3: not gonna present one way and then be a different person.
39:31
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna act like I don't say nigga. Because
39:33
Speaker 3: the people be like that behind the scenes, behind the
39:36
Speaker 3: pool pit, but they think people can't take it, so they,
39:39
Speaker 3: you know, they present one way. So now you have
39:40
Speaker 3: two different versions of people that are there. And I
39:43
Speaker 3: was I was a kid, you know, when I was
39:44
Speaker 3: young and saved. My whole Christianity was trying to be
39:47
Speaker 3: more saved than everybody else. That's how I found my Christianity.
39:50
Speaker 3: That's what I was taught even forget like sinners more
39:52
Speaker 3: save than other save people. So I've let all that go.
39:56
Speaker 3: This is how I live my life. I'm a Christian
39:59
Speaker 3: who's also come to be not a Christian comedian. And
40:01
Speaker 3: the difference there is, like, I don't every joke's not
40:03
Speaker 3: gonna be about God, church and all that type of stuff,
40:05
Speaker 3: because what I've learned is even if you do that,
40:07
Speaker 3: it's still not gonna be enough because some people don't
40:08
Speaker 3: think you should make jokes about God at all. So
40:10
Speaker 3: you'll never be saved enough, You'll never be good enough.
40:12
Speaker 3: So forget it. I'm just gonna live my life, do
40:15
Speaker 3: my thing. If you like it, you like it. If
40:16
Speaker 3: you don't, you don't. You know man, the reason I
40:19
Speaker 3: love that, and I just thought about this for whatever reason,
40:22
Speaker 3: I often wonder, like how much can faith stifle somebody's
40:25
Speaker 3: creativity Because.
40:26
Speaker 1: God gave you these gifts?
40:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then if you look at the structure of religion,
40:29
Speaker 3: the structured religion, it'll make you think like you're not
40:31
Speaker 3: supposed to express those gifts. But what if I express
40:34
Speaker 3: those gifts for God one thousand percent. That's why PJ.
40:37
Speaker 3: Morton was so instrumental in me as a comedian, because
40:40
Speaker 3: he had that exact problem. He wrote a book called
40:43
Speaker 3: why Can't I Sing About Love? Because he's played the keyboard.
40:45
Speaker 3: His dad's a big Bishop, Paul Morton Senior, so he's
40:48
Speaker 3: supposed to be a preacher. But he was like, I
40:50
Speaker 3: don't want to be, nor do I think that's my gift.
40:53
Speaker 3: I want to sing R and B. I want to
40:55
Speaker 3: sing about love. So he wrote a book He's saying
40:57
Speaker 3: about R and B. He got a lot of flack
40:58
Speaker 3: from the church, but he's still and did his thing.
41:00
Speaker 3: End up being in room five and still did his thing.
41:04
Speaker 3: And he also wrote gospel. And when I was getting fired,
41:07
Speaker 3: he wrote the song called let Go and Let God
41:09
Speaker 3: that Dwayne would sing, and I listened to it every
41:11
Speaker 3: single day because I'm like, I'm about to lose. I
41:13
Speaker 3: make jokes about it now, but in the real time,
41:15
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, I don't know how to pay
41:17
Speaker 3: my mortgage. Like our life was built off two incomes.
41:21
Speaker 3: So I realized that everybody's gift isn't necessarily used in
41:26
Speaker 3: the church the church building, but that doesn't mean it's
41:29
Speaker 3: not used for God right. Jasmine Sullivan was almost signed
41:33
Speaker 3: to a gospel label. I think that would have been
41:35
Speaker 3: a waste of her talents. I think she belongs in
41:39
Speaker 3: R and B and the story she tells Hotels album
41:42
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite albums.
41:43
Speaker 1: Love that album needs to be heard the way it is.
41:46
Speaker 3: I think it would have been not I don't want
41:47
Speaker 3: to say a way so I'd be too harsh. But
41:49
Speaker 3: I think she's doing what she should be doing better
41:52
Speaker 3: for a gift. It's a better fit for her gifts.
41:54
Speaker 3: And I think God expresses himself in creativity in all disciplines, scientists, chef's.
41:59
Speaker 1: Painters like.
42:00
Speaker 3: It doesn't all have to be in the church, artists like,
42:03
Speaker 3: there's so many different ways. I don't think you need
42:04
Speaker 3: to force it into the building of the church. You
42:07
Speaker 3: can still give back your gift to God by expressing
42:10
Speaker 3: it however it however it comes out. So I think
42:12
Speaker 3: that's what I do. And I think it's dope that
42:13
Speaker 3: I can go from the church to a comedy club
42:16
Speaker 3: to a theater. My goal is still to perform Madison
42:18
Speaker 3: Square Garden Like, I don't want to perform at churches only,
42:21
Speaker 3: but I want to perform at church because that's how
42:23
Speaker 3: I grew up and it's a good time. And I
42:25
Speaker 3: can also charge less for tickets because it's not as
42:27
Speaker 3: expensive as working with you know, the big three promoters,
42:30
Speaker 3: Like I could just charge you direct there's no parking issues,
42:33
Speaker 3: so there's also benefits to the consumer. But I think, yeah,
42:36
Speaker 3: the whole goal is to create and express yourself creatively,
42:39
Speaker 3: but that doesn't always have to end up being in.
42:41
Speaker 4: A church because you're going actually into churches? Are you
42:44
Speaker 4: do you? Like are you asking whye be? Like, hey,
42:47
Speaker 4: is this Joe going to offend? Like are you more careful?
42:50
Speaker 4: Because I've never really seen you get in too much
42:52
Speaker 4: shoggle for your jos and you have like one little
42:53
Speaker 4: incident with the the cosplayed girl. Yeah yeah, yeah that
42:58
Speaker 4: and you apologize for that. Sure, Like what is your like,
43:01
Speaker 4: what's that process? Because the church people about church get.
43:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, believe forgiveness that will cancel.
43:12
Speaker 5: Forget the right church forgiveness.
43:14
Speaker 3: But I think because I grew up in church, I
43:16
Speaker 3: tell this joke but it's actually not a joke. But
43:18
Speaker 3: the first thirty years of my life, I only miss
43:20
Speaker 3: Sunday service three times. One was like y two K
43:23
Speaker 3: one because we're moving, And probably the other one was
43:25
Speaker 3: because I was born that week. But other than that,
43:28
Speaker 3: I was in church. So being in church all that much,
43:30
Speaker 3: I understand the rules of politics where the line is,
43:33
Speaker 3: how to navigate it. Like what you can say on
43:36
Speaker 3: Sunday morning isn't what you can say on Wednesday, isn't
43:38
Speaker 3: what you can say on a comedy show, isn't what
43:40
Speaker 3: you can say. If it's a marriage, you know, enrichment.
43:43
Speaker 3: If it's just married couples, you can get away with
43:45
Speaker 3: almost anything. If it's in the church, because we marry,
43:48
Speaker 3: you know, marriage better is underfiled. So living in that
43:51
Speaker 3: world and being a part of that world has taught
43:54
Speaker 3: me what the line is more than anything else. I
43:56
Speaker 3: think if you didn't grow up there, you won't know
43:58
Speaker 3: what the line is and what you can and can't say,
44:00
Speaker 3: because it, like in comedy, that line is ever changing.
44:04
Speaker 3: So I think that my upbringing is what allows me
44:07
Speaker 3: to navigate it so well.
44:08
Speaker 1: And congratulations church you got picked up.
44:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, Churchy got picked up for season two BT plus
44:14
Speaker 3: shout out to spring Hill, Jamal Henderson Leslie. They were
44:18
Speaker 3: very instrumental in getting that picked up. On season one
44:21
Speaker 3: and season two So we just finished production on that
44:25
Speaker 3: in January. We're editing it now and it'll be out,
44:27
Speaker 3: I believe in June or July. And similar to you know,
44:32
Speaker 3: keep your distance, my goal there is to not only
44:34
Speaker 3: tell my churchy story right, because to me, there wasn't
44:37
Speaker 3: an authentic story about Church from a person who grew
44:39
Speaker 3: up in church. You can always tell because they always
44:42
Speaker 3: have in Hollywood, they always have pipe organs and pipe organs.
44:45
Speaker 3: Do not know Black Church has a pipe organ. It's
44:48
Speaker 3: a hamm and B three organ. If there's an organ,
44:50
Speaker 3: they don't even really make them anymore like they used to.
44:53
Speaker 3: So if you hear that pipe organ and they have
44:55
Speaker 3: the choir robes on them, like y'all not paying attention
44:56
Speaker 3: to Church no more. People don't even wear choir robes
44:59
Speaker 3: like that. But same thing I did with stand Up
45:01
Speaker 3: is what I did with Churchie, giving actors opportunities that
45:04
Speaker 3: they hadn't got Mark jp Hood, brilliant actor, hadn't had
45:08
Speaker 3: a chance to lead in this season. We got Quinn Walters,
45:11
Speaker 3: who's been acting but she always gets cast as like
45:13
Speaker 3: the sultry it's a ductress, but she's hilarious, So in
45:16
Speaker 3: this role she's playing funny to hear more. Comedian friend
45:21
Speaker 3: of mine who went on tour me for two years,
45:23
Speaker 3: three years.
45:24
Speaker 1: He's a brilliant actor.
45:25
Speaker 3: He's been like four episodes of Abbot Elementary takes acting
45:28
Speaker 3: very seriously, so he's a good actor. Better actor than
45:32
Speaker 3: I am by a lot. He's in there. Love JJP
45:36
Speaker 3: Jasmine Love another actor who start off as an influencer
45:39
Speaker 3: in Hollywood hasn't given her her role where she could
45:42
Speaker 3: be an actor in a series regular, So because of churches.
45:45
Speaker 3: She's got that Lexi who's a brilliant gospel artist. Melissa
45:50
Speaker 3: her first car. We used to play Lexi's music. But
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Speaker 3: she's actually a brilliant actress as well. She's in there.
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Speaker 3: Tabitha Brown pulled up for four or five episodes this season.
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Speaker 3: Tony Baker, comedian friend of mine. All these people can act.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's my brother. That is my dog. Anthony
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Speaker 3: Alfonsi a brilliant actor. So all these people are getting
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Speaker 3: an opportunity through me. And that's just in front of
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Speaker 3: the camera. Behind the camera. Jared who is our director.
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Speaker 3: This is his first time directing some TV series. He's
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Speaker 3: got this incubator with Jordan Peel that he's a part
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Speaker 3: of Rich Washington, who works for me now used to
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Speaker 3: work for CIA. He was on an agent's desk working
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Speaker 3: in TV department reading movie scripts all day for years.
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Speaker 3: He was like, called me one day he was on
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Speaker 3: my team when I was with CIA. He was like,
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Speaker 3: I want to I think I want to quit my
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Speaker 3: job and come work for you and help you build
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Speaker 3: Kevin on Stage Studios and he was instrumental in season two.
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Speaker 3: He helped write season two. Sydney Castile comedian friend of
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Speaker 3: mine wrote season one with me, but black women behind
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Speaker 3: the camera, black women in sound, black women, costume designers,
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Speaker 3: makeup artist hair all. I hired his many black people
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Speaker 3: as I possibly could, because to me as big of
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Speaker 3: a problem in Hollywood, racism is a huge problem. Nepotism
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Speaker 3: is much more dangerous because nepotism, they're not even thinking
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna exclude you. It's who am I gonna hire.
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Speaker 3: It's who I know and who's in my network. Who
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Speaker 3: If I need a podcast person, I hit Charlomagne, He's
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Speaker 3: more than likely gonna hit a black podcaster. If I
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Speaker 3: hit you for a DJ, you're more like because that's
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Speaker 3: just who you know. You're not thinking let me exclude
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Speaker 3: white people. You're thinking of who do I know? And
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Speaker 3: that's how Hollywood works. Then people go to AFI and
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Speaker 3: you get in there and they hire the people they
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Speaker 3: went to school with. So at all deaf, I realize
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Speaker 3: I can hire black people because that's my network, and
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Speaker 3: that's my goal is to hire as many black people
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Speaker 3: as humanly possible. It's give as many opportunities as possible
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Speaker 3: and then let people go and be im. That's probably
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Speaker 3: the best thing I learned from Russell Simmons was don't
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Speaker 3: try to hold onto people's talent. Don't like, oh, I
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Speaker 3: gave you this opportunity, so I'm gonna hold you here
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Speaker 3: like he let Will Smith go from man him and
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Speaker 3: he blossomed. So I learned like, however long we can
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Speaker 3: work together, let's work together. But if you get if
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Speaker 3: you blow up, blow up, I'm not going to take
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Speaker 3: credit for your work because I didn't create you. Trevor
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Speaker 3: Wallace is a huge white comedian.
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Speaker 1: Huge.
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Speaker 3: He was my intern at all death uh. He ran
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Speaker 3: social media. He blew past me and I'm like, brother,
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Speaker 3: go ahead, do your thing. Josh was my intern as well.
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Speaker 3: He didn't get me a turkey sandwich want to ask
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Speaker 3: him on the first day.
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Speaker 4: So many people came from that all dev digital space,
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Speaker 4: though it was when I first went to LA that
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Speaker 4: was like, you have.
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Speaker 5: To work with all digital if you're going anywhere.
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Speaker 3: Reasons Yeah, smoking reasons. He did doctor reasons there. He
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Speaker 3: actually shout out to him. He was in My Boy's
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Speaker 3: first skit Where's My Milk on Austin's TV, which was
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Speaker 3: huge for us. But yeah, that was like our version
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Speaker 3: of in Living Color. Obviously very different, but digital media wise,
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Speaker 3: that was like where the black culture was for that
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Speaker 3: period of time. People still run up to me talk
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Speaker 3: about Roast Me. I've been on Roast Me in five
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Speaker 3: six years. But people watch YouTube like I watch old
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Speaker 3: episodes of the Office or Different World. People watch old
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Speaker 3: episodes of Roast Me in Great Taste like they just
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Speaker 3: came out, so that you know, continues to help those
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Speaker 3: people even today. Well, Congratulations always said what you build
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Speaker 3: only benefits you.
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Speaker 1: It's not big enough. Yeah, you building some big things.
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Speaker 1: Break you. Thank you, Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Kevi on stage, ladies and gentlemen, and how can they
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Speaker 2: follow you?
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Speaker 3: Kevi on stage everywhere, whatever platform you're on, search Kevi
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Speaker 3: on stage, I should pull up all right.
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Speaker 1: Well, appreciate you. It's Kevin on stage. Appreciate your Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The
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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club