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The Matrix and the Future of Technology: Insights from Thomas Althouse · Tom Althouse Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hi, Tom, how are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Critcia, Jen you too.
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  Speaker 3: I know you have a lot of exciting things, and
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  Speaker 3: I could really squirrel out and ask all of them
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  Speaker 3: at once, But I think if we focus, we might
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  Speaker 3: be able to help your listeners latch onto this giant project.
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  Speaker 3: So I might be bringing in some new people who've
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  Speaker 3: not heard the story before. So instead of just going
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  Speaker 3: over everything you've ever said in any interview ever before,
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  Speaker 3: if you could say to somebody on an elevator before
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  Speaker 3: the door opened.
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  Speaker 1: What did you do with the matrix? What was your
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  Speaker 1: role in this matrix?
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  Speaker 2: The matrix, I would say, was something.
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  Speaker 4: That I felt was a necessity that I was, as
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  Speaker 4: I said, whispering through art, trying to create something to
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  Speaker 4: warn people about what the plan was, to create a
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  Speaker 4: one world society by enlisting all world leaders, by creating
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  Speaker 4: a program which involved a red pill create longevity using
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  Speaker 4: the blood of the children, where you would have a
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  Speaker 4: one world society, crossing national boundaries and agreeing to do
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  Speaker 4: it because they would be offering being offered longevity for
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  Speaker 4: them and their families. And that's really where it begins
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  Speaker 4: with the red pill idea, which they latched onto and
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  Speaker 4: the jacks the back of the neck, which allowed the
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  Speaker 4: cognitive enhancement, is what really was the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: So I was warning about what was being planned by
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  Speaker 2: the elite where the rest of the population would no
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  Speaker 2: longer be needed in a longevityan society.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so we just got to my floor. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to hit the next floor up. So did you how
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  Speaker 3: did you did you write that into your screenplay about
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  Speaker 3: the Red Pill and the Blue Pill.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, in fact, you see when Morpheus are my Morpheus counterpart.
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  Speaker 4: When Neo goes to Underground for the first time, he's
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  Speaker 4: met with that Morpheus counterpart who's the head of Underground,
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  Speaker 4: and he tells him that, yes, we have a bootleg
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  Speaker 4: copy of the pill which allows you to re enter
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  Speaker 4: the Matrix program and allows a unperfect, imperfected longevity with
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  Speaker 4: painful side effects. So the blue Pills not based on
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  Speaker 4: the blood of the children. So yes, you see that
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  Speaker 4: scene where he first encounters Underground and which is the Morpheus.
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  Speaker 4: So what's interesting, I say, Jen is that in the
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  Speaker 4: original Smith is ordered by the architect to give the
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  Speaker 4: red pill interrogation scene, not both, and then the Morpheus
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  Speaker 4: counterpart offers the Blue pill in underground. The first thing
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  Speaker 4: he does basically is talk about it offers the blue
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  Speaker 4: pill so that Neo can re enter the program after
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  Speaker 4: he's cut from the program and then cut from the
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  Speaker 4: red pill program.
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  Speaker 1: So the blue pill, So the blue pill brings him back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it allows him to re enter and allows a
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  Speaker 4: pseudo type of anti aging which is not based on
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  Speaker 4: the blood of the children.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a very important profound idea.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's out of necessity again, and the idea in
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  Speaker 4: the original story is that the blue pill is a
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  Speaker 4: necessity in order to confront the elite that has the
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  Speaker 4: longevity so but does not want to abuse children for
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  Speaker 4: the blood of the children. So you're using a imperfect product.
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  Speaker 4: And so if you go back to what they did
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  Speaker 4: with it, which else he didn't understand it. They had
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  Speaker 4: the eat me, Drink me alse in Wonderland perception.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and where it's like, you know, both are.
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  Speaker 4: Offered, which makes no sense. So it's red pill is
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  Speaker 4: offered theterrogation scene. The blue pill is offered later to
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  Speaker 4: allow Neo, who's cut from the program, to get back in. Now,
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  Speaker 4: the blue pill also allows cognitive enhancement and then I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: the blue pill allows longevity at at a space not
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  Speaker 4: complete and with painful side effects. But the neurlink or
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  Speaker 4: neural enhancer I called it is what allows the cognitive enhancement.
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  Speaker 1: And that was a was that it was that was
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  Speaker 1: your neurlink enhancement.
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  Speaker 3: Was that designed similarly to what we're seeing in all
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  Speaker 3: these discussions of bcim plants and the neurlink and fix
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  Speaker 3: your diseases situation that's gonna heroically take over the world exactly.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad you asked that, because there's components that have
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  Speaker 4: been disconnected on purpose by the different eight industries that
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  Speaker 4: are claiming it now like Microsoft, Yeah, Musks group, which
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  Speaker 4: you're seeing is it's basically not complete in the public's
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  Speaker 4: vision yet.
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  Speaker 2: Because here's what the screenplay shows you. I'll break it down.
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  Speaker 2: For cognitive it's not the red pill for cognitive, it's
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  Speaker 2: the red pill for longevity. Cognitive comes from the Jackson
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  Speaker 2: the back of the neck. Neuralink.
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  Speaker 4: Longevity comes from the red pill Stanford IBM working on longevity,
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  Speaker 4: working with the micochondria, and then the opiate that ties
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  Speaker 4: it together, that makes it addictive that people don't want
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  Speaker 4: to lose it is the AI companion agent, which is.
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  Speaker 2: Also the immortal.
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  Speaker 4: So the immortals, you got the three components longevity with
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  Speaker 4: a red or blue pill, imperfected, cognitive enhance I'm sorry, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: cognitive enhancement with the Jackson back of the neck and
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  Speaker 4: neural enhanser. We call it coupled with the opiate basically
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  Speaker 4: addictive elopment, which is the personal AI agent companion. So
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  Speaker 4: think of this. That element keeps the person from wanting
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  Speaker 4: to have it extracted, which happens in our screenplay.
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  Speaker 2: Neo has to have his remove the architect had diseased
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  Speaker 2: it so that he has to have his neural enhancer remove,
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  Speaker 2: neural link removed, and he has to apply Smith's to
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  Speaker 2: use his memories, but at the same time he loses
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  Speaker 2: his loved one a second time. If you will. Here
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  Speaker 2: we go just what there is humans. So here's what.
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  Speaker 3: Happens, like re traumatized by choosing the right answer.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so Trinity, remember that how the architect points the
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  Speaker 2: doors which one you're going to go through? Right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes from our screenplay in a sense, whether
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  Speaker 4: Watosis didn't understand it, but they did it kind of
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  Speaker 4: interesting choosing the doors, which one's going to leave you. Yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 4: here's the deal. Neo has to make this identical kind
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  Speaker 4: of choice in the original screenplay. I've never talked about
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  Speaker 4: this before ever, But when he's told that he has
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  Speaker 4: to give up his neural enhandswer which has his AI
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  Speaker 4: Agent Companion program as part of it, which I'll describe
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  Speaker 4: in a bit, stay with me, he also has the
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  Speaker 4: choice to give up, give up, give it up instead
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  Speaker 4: of holding on to it, give it up and then
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  Speaker 4: use Smith's neuron answer, which means he loses his AI
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  Speaker 4: Agent companion and that's gone. His memories are gone. He'll
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  Speaker 4: now have Smith's memories to access to get back in.
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  Speaker 4: Those are the doors the architect's pointing to, which is
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  Speaker 4: with Chosky's and warnerers simplified to door choice. So it's
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  Speaker 4: the same thing. Now here's the AI and you have
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  Speaker 4: a thought on that, and I'll go right to the
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  Speaker 4: AI companion description the opiate. You want me to go
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  Speaker 4: to that right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, please go because that's interesting, that is real. That's
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  Speaker 3: a little The door connections to that is I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot in marketing, but I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: jump in go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's that's where it comes from. Everything's lifted
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  Speaker 4: from the original work in a storyboard. Like I said,
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  Speaker 4: they thought they could chop shop it that way, and
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  Speaker 4: they simplified everything like turning the silver pen. That's Neo's
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  Speaker 4: creative and free will. Yeah, he represents that into the
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  Speaker 4: architect channel changing.
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  Speaker 2: Same thing with the doors. They put the doors there.
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  Speaker 1: Door choice now like psychological triggers.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so what you got is the actual choice
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  Speaker 4: between doors is much more complex than the original work.
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  Speaker 2: But they didn't understand the work simply right down.
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  Speaker 4: Everything now the opiate, So you got cognitive enhancement, which
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  Speaker 4: basically right now is being owned by I would say,
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  Speaker 4: who's the one that's going to be to elon Musk longevity.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of companies doing in plants too. They're working on like
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  Speaker 3: I know there's bcim plants from synchron I think it is,
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  Speaker 3: and other things like that.
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  Speaker 1: There's some chips that you can that.
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  Speaker 3: Are like vegetable or something that you can swallow that
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  Speaker 3: old camera look at everything for you. So I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people have partnered on your your technology
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  Speaker 3: thoughts in here right to like mass surveill right.
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  Speaker 2: We'll say that that's a great point.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll say that the neural cognitive enhancement one is
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  Speaker 4: spread everywhere. Everybody's getting a piece of that pie. Then
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  Speaker 4: we've got the longevity.
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  Speaker 3: But there are there are pillars of influencers in that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, So we're watching for is for longevity
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  Speaker 4: elements to be connected to the cognitive enhancement elements connected
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  Speaker 4: to the AI personal companion element, which I'll describe further.
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  Speaker 4: Then you got the complete picture of what will enslave
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  Speaker 4: humanity basically and what's in the world. Yeah, so here's
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  Speaker 4: the opiate. So example Neo in the original story, the
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  Speaker 4: Neo counterpart has lost his loved one, right, and so
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  Speaker 4: he is so obsessed about the loss of his loved one.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to write perfect characters. I want to
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  Speaker 4: flawed characters that have these you know. So he reprograms
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  Speaker 4: his AI Surrey Agent program to simulate, emulate exactly the voice, mannerisms, phrases,
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  Speaker 4: timing everything that his wife had had.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't they took this outre Wow, they took this out.
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  Speaker 4: So what happens is when she talks to him in
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  Speaker 4: two different fashions. If you need something done, like your
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  Speaker 4: TV on or different topics looked for, searched for, or
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  Speaker 4: you need, say jen a drink to materialize. It will
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  Speaker 4: act in almost like secretarial mode. It'll be like your
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  Speaker 4: drink is ready. The parameters have been met. When it
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  Speaker 4: senses that you have a need for that personal touch, companionship,
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  Speaker 4: or how are suffering a feeling of loss, this AI
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  Speaker 4: companion program will then kick into the personalized side of
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  Speaker 4: it where it'll start talking as a loved one again
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  Speaker 4: and you will actually have a conversation or NEO will
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  Speaker 4: have a conversation with that AI agent as if the
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  Speaker 4: loved one's right there in the room. Now that's what Yes,
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  Speaker 4: Steven Spielberg seized on this with Minority Report with Tom Cruisi.
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  Speaker 1: It Yeah, that element places right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. And so that goes along with
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  Speaker 2: the ghost program with the AI agent, which a stimulates
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  Speaker 2: the person full body. So what you have is that
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  Speaker 2: he has to give up when he's making that choice,
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  Speaker 2: He's called it the door choice, when he has to
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  Speaker 2: choose he's going to give up his loved one. He
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  Speaker 2: actually says goodbye to her, and the AI agent says
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  Speaker 2: goodbye to him, that she'll miss him. In the very
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  Speaker 2: voice and tone and mannerism of the wife he lost.
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  Speaker 2: He's losing a loved.
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  Speaker 4: One a second time and this time wow, which says
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  Speaker 4: something bad about the neurolink when that's taken from you
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  Speaker 4: in the future. If you implement that and integrade it
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  Speaker 4: into your cognitive functioning, when it's taken you become dependent
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  Speaker 4: on it. They'll have your memories, your personal identities.
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  Speaker 2: You'll they'll have your codes, they'll have your intimate moments,
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  Speaker 2: they'll have everything. Everything's gone, they'll have it.
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  Speaker 1: Everything have it.
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  Speaker 4: The agents can take it from you. That's warned about
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  Speaker 4: in the screenplay. So backtrack at summarized cognitive enhancement longevity
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  Speaker 4: plus an opiate and AI companion who's personalized to a
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  Speaker 4: loved one you lost will make it so you never
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  Speaker 4: ever get.
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  Speaker 1: Off an indiction, so you don't want to get rid
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: It also becomes an enticement to join the program, so
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  Speaker 4: that goes into the whole Yeah, it comes to the
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  Speaker 4: whole element of where Hunger Games comes into the mortals,
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  Speaker 4: where there's a merit program where that the outside the program.
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  Speaker 2: Could possibly merit. That's the train.
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  Speaker 4: Station scene with the parents girl forward among a crowd
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  Speaker 4: and the originally crowded scene. Right, they did it right
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  Speaker 4: with Will Smith and I am legend they finally got
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  Speaker 4: it right there. But they're like screaming take their kids,
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  Speaker 4: to take their kids, because that's another way to possibly
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  Speaker 4: get your kid into the program.
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  Speaker 3: And they want their kid in the program, even though
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  Speaker 3: that program is basically like death.
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  Speaker 4: They want longevity for their child. And they're hoping, they're
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  Speaker 4: rolling the dice that maybe they'll have a good life there,
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  Speaker 4: but actually.
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  Speaker 1: They'll be tracked.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, in this was written in nineteen ninety one.
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  Speaker 4: It was written between nineteen eighty nine. Close, Yeah, nineteen
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  Speaker 4: eighty nine and ninety two was finished, and so the
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  Speaker 4: first out is ninety three. You start see it rolling
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  Speaker 4: out in ninety.
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  Speaker 2: Three and in finished. So I'm sorry, finished in ninety three.
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  Speaker 2: Copyright tached ninety three. You're right, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: That makes sense though, because it came out roughly in
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  Speaker 3: ninety nine, I think in real world.
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  Speaker 4: For like the movie ninety nine, And that's why that
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  Speaker 4: copyright that they did with Tom Hanks on The Immortals
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  Speaker 4: ninety eight so.
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  Speaker 1: Telling because yeah, oh that's interesting too.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway. Yeah, but see that there's a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of names that are randomly thrown into your story
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  Speaker 3: as I've heard your podcast, that that I think are
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  Speaker 3: very key because if a researcher is trying to get
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  Speaker 3: to the truth of whatever and they stumble on your story,
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  Speaker 3: they'll hear names of people who were randomly in part
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  Speaker 3: of some aspect of your story that's not really a
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  Speaker 3: good way, and they have a key or a giant
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  Speaker 3: amount of rumors themselves doing other things in other places.
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  Speaker 3: So it just adds like a legitimacy level because you
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of those you like if I could
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  Speaker 3: name drop here, like you have John Walsh, Tom Hanks,
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  Speaker 3: Lenny Coco, Meli mel Gibson to George Michael.
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  Speaker 2: George Michael, and they're all tied specifically to the timeline
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  Speaker 2: where mel Gibson take mel Gibson, he's the one that
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  Speaker 2: claims he discovered the Wachowski's when they failed at everything
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  Speaker 2: they did. They're painting contracting business, they failed, dropped out
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  Speaker 2: of school.
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  Speaker 1: Their mom said, how did he discover them?
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  Speaker 2: That's the question, how do you discover these scumbacks from
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  Speaker 2: Chicago where they didn't they failed at everything they did,
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  Speaker 2: they said, So why would mel Gibson bringing them in.
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  Speaker 4: But Joel Silver uses mel Gibson as the plausible story
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  Speaker 4: he thinks for how they got to Hollywood into him.
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  Speaker 4: And then mel Gibson's rewarded with forever Young.
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  Speaker 3: Was that around the time that he got in trouble
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  Speaker 3: for the like drink and drive, yeah, and all.
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  Speaker 1: Those anti Semitic statement things and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Just after, just after he was then letting it out.
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  Speaker 2: I think he had it held up inside.
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  Speaker 4: He he knew he's working an affairsley for Jill Silver,
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  Speaker 4: that it was really a bad thing.
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  Speaker 1: It seems part of an initiation ritual.
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  Speaker 2: I think so too, Jen, I think so too.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why what's really frustrating for me is they
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  Speaker 4: then give mel Gibson the Christian market. They're giving him
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  Speaker 4: the Christian market why he's not alcoholic and everything. But
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  Speaker 4: the thing is that that was whispered through the immortals too,
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  Speaker 4: that the architect picked this duly character.
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  Speaker 2: So mel Gibson's basically douly.
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  Speaker 4: This duly character is given the Christian Market by the
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  Speaker 4: architect to placate the short lifers outside the program, and
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  Speaker 4: his job is to keep them placated, and he has
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  Speaker 4: at from the architect anyway, Yeah, anyway, all these so
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  Speaker 4: that the fact.
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  Speaker 3: That you have in your screenplay, all of these different
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  Speaker 3: avenues that have from nineteen nineties have been portrayed out
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  Speaker 3: and it's traceable, is very interesting. And I can see
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  Speaker 3: where someone who can't really latch onto a detail that's
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  Speaker 3: deeper than I watch movies might not be able to
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  Speaker 3: see that because it's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You have a lot.
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  Speaker 3: But let's step into mind of like analytical brain, because
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  Speaker 3: I know you have that thing on your website, the
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  Speaker 3: probability of matchups, And I think that's really important because
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  Speaker 3: you have a lot of dots that not only does
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  Speaker 3: your screenplay show these things, these technologies, these theories, these thoughts,
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  Speaker 3: those exact things have been utilized to control the entire
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  Speaker 3: world ever since then. And so even if that was
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  Speaker 3: just a coincidence and they did write their own matrix.
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  Speaker 1: How does yours have all of that?
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  Speaker 3: How does your name, high school, your dad's name, the
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  Speaker 3: author name, your fiance's birthday, your birthday.
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  Speaker 1: All end up in their screenplay if they don't know you,
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  Speaker 1: that's like, it doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 3: You have so much data, so much proof, so much receipts.
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  Speaker 3: As they say it seems like they've really created a
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  Speaker 3: giant smear campaign and collusion campaign to cover the story
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  Speaker 3: and still profit off of the ideas while creating a
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  Speaker 3: world that acts just like your screenplay.
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  Speaker 4: That's a great assessment, because what they were trying to
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  Speaker 4: do is break the authors. They're trying to break the
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  Speaker 4: author's original work and shove it in their face.
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  Speaker 2: Like the gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: I would never have seen, like Jen, I've never seen
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  Speaker 4: those entries for a split second upside down in that
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  Speaker 4: interrogation scene in the Matrix, if someone had not told
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  Speaker 4: me to look for that split second upside down from
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  Speaker 4: the story department.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really good point.
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  Speaker 5: I'd like to pause there because if you, if you're
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  Speaker 5: watching this from the outside perspective, and you've seen Tom
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  Speaker 5: on a few shows and he talks of the hundreds
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  Speaker 5: of matchups.
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  Speaker 3: I know that some people can get a little overwhelmed
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  Speaker 3: by that many matchups and they think that it's just
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  Speaker 3: it's just words whatever, and they move on.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't look for that, you didn't make that up.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't go, you know, hogwild trying to find every
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  Speaker 3: ounce of you know, scene changes.
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  Speaker 1: That they added to this thing.
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  Speaker 3: Someone brought to your attention that these things are in
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  Speaker 3: the screenplay, which is trending on the internet because people
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  Speaker 3: know that they put nine to eleven on the on
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: the driver's license, right, so they so the internet will
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: accept the idea that the Matrix writers implanted nine to eleven.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And that's got to be some sort of a conspiracy.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: So if we can jump to that bridge, we should
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: be able to jump to the bridge that someone brought
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: you a screenshot of something, some data that shows that
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: in this movie, your high school name, your author's birthday,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: your fiance's birthday, your father's name, your author's name, they're
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: all in this shot.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: It's a split second, and so you wouldn't have seen it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't know it. Why is it in there?
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what the story treatment is. Great question, Jen,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: because the story the story department guy who called me,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: he explained it.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: He said, the reason they've done this is they hate you.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: They don't understand the work. They want to be more
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: clever than you, and they're mocking you on set. They're
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: gonna they're mocking you on set because they don't understand
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: the work. They're embarrassed. And Joel Silver actually has an
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: article where the Wachowski stopped doing interviews, and he says,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: the boys are embarrassed to talk about what it means
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: they so that kept riding them. Apparently that the actual
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: author knows the work and they don't. For a narcissist
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: or a pair of narcissists to feel not superior and
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: feel less to someone else is inacceptable.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Fat Oh, yeah, that's a really good point.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: So it's not like we're dealing with an unnameable They
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: were dealing with humans who had lies they were covering,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and evil that they didn't want outed, and other things
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: we don't don't know whatever. So they're gonna make decisions
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: and they're gonna cover stories. And if you're looking at
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: cover stories, what did those interviews with the supposed creators
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: look like?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Where are they now?
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: How does their story align with current you know, mind
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: control operations and psyops and things like that, and do
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: they act like they know what the mission behind the
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Matrix screenplay was, ask those questions for yourself, and then
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: come back to Tom's website and.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Look at all of these things. Ask him questions.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I think you know, because you seem to have a
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: box of receipts that make more sense than the others.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Well, you helped me realize something I've not realized before.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Another discovery, which is the Larry Wachowski was into satomaschism.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: In fact, he married a woman. He left his wife
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: thea Bloom and married this famous uh Sato maschism or
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: you know, don Matrix, and he marries her. So that's
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: why Trinity instead of define feminine type I had like yourself.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like a dominatrix, a masculine version.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And Moss would know I want to Catherine Enna Jones.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that makes good sense.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: And also they want to torture the author in the mocking.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: They're just not just mocking. They're actually going hard headed,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: hard heavy because he's into that masochistic nature. So he's
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: going to do everything he can to when he's winning.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: This person from the story department calls and says he
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: hates you, he doesn't understand the work. He's going to
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: go all nine bars to the wind. So he's going
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to go all out.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: So that's that's a very interesting rabbit hole to do
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: someday on the threads of psyops that have come out
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: of the Matrix itself.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: And what's the personalities that drive those threads. I think
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: that's an interesting.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Thought exactly because they had to be contrived.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: If you look at your screenplay and what you meant
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: for this to be, which is, we've made the premise now,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I think, and in a lot of the data that
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: you have on your website and where you met you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: when you met Lenny, and you presented it in all
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: these different situation, I think we've presented that you had
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: the authority, placement and positioning to be where.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You were, and it did happen.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Now we have to question why they stole it, What
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: were they doing, Why were they creating all of these
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: psyops out of it, and why did they bastardize it
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: when you had such a beautiful healing script that would
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: have just been as popular if they did it with
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: their fancy dollars. They could have done it your way,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: still stole it from you and done it right.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Why did they bastardize it?
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: What was the reason you said it's such an important
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: thing you just bridged so important? Is we go back
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: to the theme and what the immortals is trying to
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: relay and tell and warn, and that is again that
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: wal world society you just laid tracks right to it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: That's the important thing. And it's happening in China right now.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: So what's going on right now is again in the Immortals,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: there's a section and interrogation scene, and if it's okay,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I'd like.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: To read that, just yes, please, I want to read.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: This from the interrogation scene. What Smith is telling Neo
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Neo counterpart this very plan. It's right in the pages
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: on thirty five of The Immortals, which is in the
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: copyright office. You hear these words. It's from the interrogation
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: scene in the original Neo says program. Smith goes, imagine
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: the greatest minds of the twentieth century working together and
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: defeating man's deadliest enemy, death itself. The Immortal Program will
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: ensure world peace. Right now, the highest offices of every
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: major world power are joining and preparing to usher into
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: one world society. Our country is leading the way. I
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: got chills right now. A brave new world is about
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: to begin, and you can be part of it forever.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I've been instructed to offer you everlasting life. And then
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: later he says this the one man that was killed
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: that was called the Ghost program. Smith goes I'm a mortal,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: and when when Neo threatens him, he goes, I'm immortal. Besides,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I have seven armed agents outside. Don't get in the
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: way of your country. Neo, make no mistake. I want
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: what's best for her. Do what we ask and nobody
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: will get hurt, meaning his family and Neo's counterpart says,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: why was the German couple killed?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: And here's the answer. Smith says, Carl wouldn't listen. It's
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: not time for the public to know yet. Think what
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: would happen if everyone knew that aging was a thing
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: of the past, but only a few were chosen. They're
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the anarchy. So what's going on in China right now?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Trump shows up with the billionaires. The billionaires have formed
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: a collective club where they put money in to be
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to gain longevity. The billionaires have already put the money in.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: It's in the article.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: They also said they're going to do cryogenic preserving, which
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: is in that that's the field of pause from the immortals.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: That's what's what it's for.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: And then what happens is Trump takes those billionaires over
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: to China to meet with that and Zaying, and then
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: what happens is right after that, the Russian leader comes
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: with a Korean leader in China with a Chinese leader,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: all coming together for the first time basically in history,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: meeting together in peace to discuss the very thing that's
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: caught on camera on a hot mic when they're on
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: the residue red carpet. They're talking about immortality, how seventy
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: years old already is like young, and how they're going
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: to be one hundred and fifty immortal. They're talking about
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: what the real concept that it was calling out and
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: the immortals way back in ninety three. It's being done
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: exactly the way it was described. World leaders coming together
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: discussing how to implement a one world society with immortality
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: for the elite, which will bridge all national boundaries to
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: get them all to agree so their families and loved
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: ones and them and world leaders will have immortality, which
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: means the rest of the population is now no longer
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: needed except for a percentage of the ninety nine percent,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: maybe three percent that could be a servitude class and
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: also an ongoing Epstein Island affair, which you're going to
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: have as a sex class. And that's what they're doing
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: right now. That's why the leaders are getting together. Then
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Russia leader went to talk to Trump and Alaska. You've
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: got this going on right now, exactly from the pages,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: and that's what's caught on the hot mic. And when
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Trump said, yeah, we discussed a lot of things. I'm
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: not going to tell you what they were. There'll be
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: some trade deals, maybe some training trading, some airplanes.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: No, you guys were talking about immortality and longevity for
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: the rich, and now you're figuring out how to make
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: it stick and make it work. And you met in China,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: where that's the most appropriate way if you're into some
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: kind of mysticism, go to China, because that's where the
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: emperor with the terra cotta soldiers originally was looking for
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: immortality and that's why he built that army.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So they're going back to the birthplace of the search
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: for immortality historically to discuss Wow. The elite.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: So the script is coming true and Trump, who's part
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: of it, A big part of it. Remember it says
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: in the screenplay, America is leading the way. Your country's
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: leading the way.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: He's the way.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I'm invested in Netflix and also ABC, Disney and Warner Brothers.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Warnerbre's personnel wins Netflix, he's invested.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by invested? Does he partner with
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: them and stuff?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: He's put a whole lot of money into their organizations.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: He's invested in them. Really yes, yes, it's all over
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: the line now. He's invested heavily in Netflix and so
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: also in ABC. So he's invested.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: His shows and stuff were on there, right, I guess,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and stuff.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: So Amazon, which is all part of this ripoff too, Amazon,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Netflix did? He got them all three. He's invested in
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: all of them because that's why Amazon did this.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I remember Bezo's wife at his inauguration, got a lot
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: of attention. All the billionaires have been surrounding him forever.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: It's like they just bees to the trapped it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: They're sending money to Trump, millions of Trump. And that's
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: why he switched up where he said first the tech
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: giants were bad. Then he gathered them all at his
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Oval office because he wants to be part of this
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: one world reset and with immortality. I'm not kidding you.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: That's what's going on in China.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And they're caught all the hot.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Mike discussing the very thing mattered that was not supposed
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: to be told to the public.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: So we're experiencing the immortals happening right now. I've been
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: how long has it been to in three and a
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: half decades, trying to warm Yeah, so.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Here we are, so from ninety one, So when the
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: future grandchildren are listening to this from ninety from eighty
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: eight till twenty twenty six, you've seen it come from
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: an idea that was brought about by trauma, moved into
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: a movie that trended and made many many many, many
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: many many many many many many, many, many, many many
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: people millions, and now are into the actual control mechanism
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: of the screenplay is what we're working on having built.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: So if you're looking at this from the future, can
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: you finish that timeline.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Because this is a little scary here.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: That's why Jen, That's why Neo in the original story,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: the Neo character, which I'm modeled after myself, is fighting
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: for immortality for all, which then billionaires don't want. That
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: one reason they took the screenplay and also the idea
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: that look at what Joel Silver.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Did with my work after he had all my drafts,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: all my.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Screenplays through Discovery as a defendant, where they have the
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: only claimed sequels only, which means you're never going to
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: win if just sequels only, we haven't had matrix case yet,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: so he gets to have all that access and then
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: does Altered Kyrban, which the premise is tie it in.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: The rich in the Future have immortality, the poor is
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: used as pawns. And that's exactly what's going on right now.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: That's the premise of the Immortals now, and the Immortals
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: was submitted I mean sorry, during the faux case of
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: just sequels only, which you can't win. Joel Silver says
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: it's a mundane idea. Warner Brothers says that. Then when
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Aldra Carbon's done, same premise Rich in the Future of
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Immortality pours us his ponds. He says, it's the greatest
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: sci fi concept ever. And after the hit and run
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: that happened on me, he took his name off the project.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: If you look at alder Carbon now you'll see formerly
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: producer of alder Carbon. He ran, they're getting scared, watch
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: for others running two because we can take that.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Happened when he got fired too.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: That was prior.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, he got fired from Warner Brothers in twenty twelve.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I think and then twenty thirteen and then same time
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: as Mike lying from Disney left within a month. Then
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: you've got him leaving the carbon alter carbon he leaves
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: later after the case is thrown.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: He leaves that after the hit and run was done
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: on me and my son Sean was murdered.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: So that gets deep and heavy.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: It's not just the point I think is we're looking
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: at it is all happening. That's one of the reasons.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Like you had asked why I was taken. We are
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: seeing them in China and now all these world leaders
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: suddenly coming together for the first time and they're agreeing
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: behind closed doors because seventy is now young one hundred
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: and fifty we soon and then immortality for the elite,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: which means the rest of the population is not needed anymore.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: For both Gates and other sustainable planet you're going to
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: see a planet in their hope, which is green, cities
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: being turned to green, lots of populations decimated, and then
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: you'll have elite society with a sustainable planet basically utopia,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: and a merit system. They'll claim a selection list for
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: those who get to be part of it along.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: With them like a social credit system like a merits
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: is like.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: A class system.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you meet certain parameters, you'll be on the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: merit list where you'll be like a scientist or a
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: great artist or they don't want to be bored.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: So they're doing a reset and they're planning out who's
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: going to be part of it after they become world domination.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, winners, world leaders will join in. And here's the
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: chilling part. I think the world leaders will all join in.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: It's being done right now. Start with the top ones first.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: You got to have them agree first, and then the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: other ones will follow and their families and then will
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: then be selected for that immortal program. Then what happens.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: They will disagree on how to solve this this final solution.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: They'll disagree on how to shed the large masses that
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: are not considered desirable for a sustainable planet, and with
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: longevity will be in the way because they'll you.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Know, well that's not cool.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: So what the answer in the immortals is they are
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: segregated the squalor conditions outside the program and they are
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: allowed to live normal life spans and then you stop
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: them basic having births and things like this through a
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: disease COVID, that kind of stuff, and then what happens
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: is you have them. I didn't call it COVID, of course,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: but they then die out and you take care of
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: the ones that merit, which are pretty and you know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: sexually attractive whatever they are brought in as a servity class.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: So you find the final solution is a slow bleed
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: because not all the world leaders are going to agree
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: to just instant camps and then elimination.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Trump's group, his administration is for.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: They're actually building the warehouses right now with the facilities
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: for biological hazard igniting, fire renew removal. So there he's
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: four from I understand, he's for this instant solution and
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: get rid of those that aren't. He even said about
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: his like it was Eric or one of his relatives
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: is a young younger boy who's in a wheelchair, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: he said he shouldn't be alive because he doesn't even
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: know his dad. If he doesn't know who his dad is,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: he shouldn't be alive. So he's talking just like Man
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: in the High Castle. He's talking about like that series
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: where they go useless eaters. He's already doing it. So
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Trump would be all four eliminate a large part of
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: the population, but other world leaders believe it or not,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Like China, apparently.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: They're like, well, let's bleed it through.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Let's not just eliminate everybody, Let's segregate them and we'll
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: figure out how to do it. Now, that's what's happening
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: in China. I kid you not, And I've been trying
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: to warn it what was coming for three and a
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: half decades.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Do you have a big Have you interacted with the
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: following you have in China or in Asia?
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Well, different people are contacted me from different places like
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Japan and Ireland and Scotland, you name it, like all
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: over the place, Germany, all over.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: So there's been yes, yeah too, But I'd love to
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: hear from from that side of the world. What the
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: story of the matrix meant to them? What was pushed
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: on them, did they have merchandise? Was it in the theaters?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Did they get told about red pill, blue pill? And
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: which one to take by Elon Musk Also, like, I
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: just think there's a lot of psyops around the world
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: that if we were to listen to what you had
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: to say, read your screenplay, and then you know, think
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: for ourselves, we might be able to fight back against
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: the they that is doing some of this stuff. Was
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: what is the end of your screenplay? How did you
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: end this?
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing that I was kind of frustrated
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: with with them. Also is they turned the Trinity character right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: They turned her who I had said, Like I said,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I want to Catherinezetta Jones, I wanted the divine feminine.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: I wanted the intelligent, classy with a look of a
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: discernment that would intimidate most men. That's what I had,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: and they turned it into Larry saying we wanted those
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: sexy female protagonists who was sexy but evil. That's a
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: quote so ruined it. So mine has that femme fatale
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: in the room of monitors where she sacrifices herself to
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: save a man who's under the influence of Smith's memories
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: and feelings and drives assaulting her, basically sexually attacking. She
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: rips out his neuralink, Smith's neuralink out the back of
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Neol's neck, and he turns basically a blithering idiot right
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: on the floor in the room of monitors, and she
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: allows the guards to attack her and allows near to escape.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: And so Trinity in the real film. They didn't know
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: what to do with it. The real thing, you know,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: the original one.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: She saves the day.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: She sacrifices herself to save the day for a man
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: who does not merit it in his actions, but she
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: knows he's under the influence of another man's mind. Basically
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: because they needed those memories to access the cortex building,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: to get it through the seamless walls, you know, like
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: the seamless corridors, and to get to the dome.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: So they didn't know what to do with that. But
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that ending what I would say.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Or they just didn't want to save the day.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: They just wanted the sexy, right, sexy women in their
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: place is sexy, I guess is what they wanted, or
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: not save the day at all.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean so the whole movie kind of
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: controls out of like a sci fi fear. This is
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: a little real wow, I'm I'm entranced type situation.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You can't really have a feel good ending.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: No, you can't with that except except in the end.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: The only way.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: You just made me think of something so amazing. I
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: never thought of this before. Thank you for taking the
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: way you just did. I don't know what you did,
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: but it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Just worked a time.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Here always the end, How does it end?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: In the original, you have identical figures facing off, little
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Girl renewed with a pulse wave coming out from the crater,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: and she comes up and hugs Neo and points to
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: the sun to restore to her daddy, right, and then
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Trinity is restored.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: To life too and appears. That's pretty cool, I thought.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, because that's the that's a powerful good ending.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they put it in four. Basically, I
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: understand they fly off together, but it's like, you're not
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: flying off together. They put Superman in it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: But anyway, so what happens is you've got the Christ
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: figure actually returning the end, because that's the only figure
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: that you know, the identical figure facing off the Arctic
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: looking like Christ. Because he is needing the pure power
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: of worship to stimulate his mind. Where he used Neo
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: to purge the agents, turning in Neo, he allows him
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: to purge all his agents because he's gonna come back
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: looking like Christ, so we can do the Christ fake
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: ending that I saw. Robertson was planning tie it all together.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: He's planning fake Blue pill or whatever. Blue thing, and
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: then you've got the real one showing up. Now, what
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: they did was, instead of that, they put Neo in
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: a Christ figure like position with the cross in his chest,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: the gold cross, and they have the deuce ex machina
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: or whatever, the Greek device for when you don't know
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: how to end a movie. They have it to send right,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: and they called it that the Greek device for when
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: you don't know how to end a movie. Because they
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: said they kept the same ending when everyone said to
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: blow it up. I think that's very telling, because we've
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: got to end it. They got this Greek god name
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: figure descending to end it. So they didn't know how
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: to end it with the Wachowski said, everyone said to
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: lo up, but we'll keep the same ending, same ending
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: of what same ending as immortals. Why you have a
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: twenty foot roll, you're not twenty feet of it. So
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: this is an important discovery that I'm seeing, is that
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: they matched that too.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem to have really corrupted every aspect of
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: good that could have come.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Out of it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: From the silver pen what it means really to a
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: channel changer to the right.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: This this train station scene.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: With the little girls little girls and boys are being
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: pushed by their parents with no hope. In smaller conditions,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: crowds frantic to put them in from possibly a better life.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Are they're going to be trafficked, and they call it
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: just a subplot, the little girl.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can see.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I mean so in other worlds they of like conspiracy discussions,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: podcast history discussions I'm in they talk about the orphan
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: trains of the history, you know.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: The kinder transport.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a couple other like theories of those
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: types of things happening. Sometimes it was like kidnapping, chill kidnapping,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: or quote unquote helping underprivileged children and they would put
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: them in Masonic orphanages or like other situations.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one Turkey where the British officers all said they
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: all had one little girl each. Basically all these British
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: officers in Turkey, the poor fathers were so desperate they
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: gave their daughters over to British officers and each one
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: had a young girl.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: With them where they went. Why, I would say pedophilia, But.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of what I was hoping, wasn't the answer.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Fathers were desperate, So why were these British officers just
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: say one child instead of sending them on to an
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: orphanage or or a care facility in England, why are
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: they keeping them with them wherever they go during wartime.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: That's like a comfort wife.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: So a comfort wife. Is there a population scheme on that?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting is you're gonna find what's sad actually
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: is it were now coming out about Germany had comfort wise,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Japan had comfort wise, Gross America.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: The reason we didn't get in so many atrosities apparently
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: when the GIS went in, they were heavily instructed by
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Eisenhower and patting through the ranks to have strict protocols
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: when you meet German women and so, but there's still
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: like over one thousand some violations, not like the three
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: hundred thouands some or three fifty thousand by the Russians,
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: but you've got all these violations that did occur even
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: with the protocols in place.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: So apparently there's this.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: That's why I hate these endless war things because it's
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: like that is a lot of people feel it's licensed to,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: you know, spoils of war, that women are spoils of war.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: All ages got.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Why so that's been a thing for a long time.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: It sounds like in multiple cultures called different things comfort wives.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I'm today eight years old learning that. Now I'm going
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: to have to research it. And please don't judge me
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: for being ignorant. I think that is a very crazy
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: concept that so the children of those corrupt situations, Let's
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: say that those comfort wives survived are going to carry
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: their own levels of trauma, and that's a whole generation.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: You look at the rape of Nan King and the
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: story that that brave girl she commitsued side later, but
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: she did a documentary on it. Also look online you'll
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: see probably on YouTube tube, you can learn about how
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: the German the Germans actually at the end of when
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: World War II was collapsing for them, they actually selected
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: women in each different localities to be comfort women for
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: the gis coming in. But if Eisenhower had not put
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: those restrictions in place and really grilled them home or
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: even put on signs on the ladies' doors, you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: do not enter in English. So it's like they really
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: did flamp down because they didn't they want to show
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: they're different than the Russians. But they had to do
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: all that because the nature was there, and the Germans
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: were preparing for the GIS to come in by selecting
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: young girls, young women from the ages of like eighteen
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: to thirty five to be different district comfort women for
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: the American GIS coming in.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: So that's an interesting concept.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I study the mk Ultra and the mind slaves and
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: the sex slaves and their stories a lot, and that
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: timeframe is exactly the same. The MK Ultra mind slaves
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: are like nineteen fifty to sixties, and you're saying, Eisenhower,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: who I'm looking up.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: He's served from fifty three to sixty one.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: So the idea of a sex slave presidential slave group
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: of comfort women for whatever purpose seems to have been
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: worldwide at that exact same time frame exactly.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: And it's like it's that's why in the Immortals itself,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: the whole transgender thing, this is deep.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of layers to it. Comes from this
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: very thing.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Because when Neo, the Neo counterpart ends up cut from
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: the program, the Trinity character helps him end up.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: In through the train station through liquid mirrors.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: She gets them through because if you're not on the program,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: if you're cut from the Red Pill, you can no
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: longer pass with liquid mirrors, which are the security devices
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: at the train station, which Oskis took that also and
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: put them out of place into Morpheus's smoking lounge. But
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: what happens is he gets through and ends up meeting
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: a girl named Lorey who had been a part of
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Merrick program. She had been a grad student in the
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Immortals program and then cut out after she was sexually
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: used by the professor's So that's backstory.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: So she ends up there aging and she sees him.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Neil goes to look.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: He was told to find somebody in the program he
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: had seen before that is aged and hide out with her.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Now, let me read the page from ninety four. Is
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that okay? Yeah, you listen to this ninety four.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: So here's where transgender first is introduced, where Warner Bros.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Gets hooked into it, and they blame me for putting
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: the idea forward. But there's a reason for this, basically
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: transgendered altered body. That's not about making a trend or
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: being trendy. It's a horrific reason and it goes with
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: a comfort idea. So Neo says those are Central Troops agents,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: and Lay says, I heard rumors that were to be relocated,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: which goes along with what's happening with China.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I just said, those.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: That volunteer to go today have been promised special privileges,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: which is going to be offered. Neo draws the curtains.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: He sees Laray, noticing the picture of the Trinity in
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: his hand. The girl like one of your programs himself
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: with Neil. She died many years ago. Laray, she's beautiful, Neil, Larray,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: if you want, you'll have me. I'd never want to go.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: A tear forms on the Ray's cheek as she smiles.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: She turns away from him. Laray says this, I won't
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: blame you if you do. My classmates and I kept
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: being raped by these rape squads, right, we made sure
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: it can never happen again. Larray lifts her skirt and
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: turns to Neo, showing a massive scar tissue between her legs. Luray,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: this is why we're left alone now. Neo holds her. Neo,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: I would like to stay. Lray begins to cry.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: She kisses.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Neo kisses her softly. Ray pulls away. Don't let me
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: do this to you. Neil embraces Luray gently and brushes
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: the hair from her eyes. There are many ways to
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: show affection, so they took that tender moment of horror
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: also of these women, these young girls being raped where
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: they scarred their genitalia and came up with a fad
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: of transgender. In fact, the firm that worked to have
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: the only sequels only and worked against me was transgender
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: firm representing with Chewskins.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: So was meant.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: To heal, Like you said earlier, what was meant to
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: heal yep and lift people was turned into something bad.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Warner Bros.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Does that their agendas that were all evil, and they
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: won transgender.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: They took what was meant.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: To not only bad but covering of trauma.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, So a tenor moment turned into a
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: fad which has damaged young people's bodies all over the world,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: and the Wachowski's were made to be poster guys for it.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: That's really sick.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: So I have two avenues of question on that, if
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: you don't mind, that's a really it's a tender moment,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: but it's also not a moment that most I don't
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: think most brains could could put that in naturally as well,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: And it has to come from some experience. Now you
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: did have You've mentioned Pat Robertson and his cult, and
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: you did have a horrific experience that happened to you.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: How much of that or was that the piece that
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: decided you needed to write this for healing?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Wanted to make a difference for others.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Compassion, you know, is a big part of the writing
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: process for me, Compassion for and service of your audience.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: So I thought, I wanted to turn something horrible into
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: something good and have other people get to be able
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: to identify with that, and maybe they'll get healing by
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: seeing that the answer is tenderness, understanding, empathy, and not
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: being what the elite do often, which is just lustful,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: but actually tenderhearted, understanding, caring, embracing, encouraging, loving, you know.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Empathy rewrite the pathways of the torture, not keep torturing.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: And I'm glad you asked the question in a sense,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: turning one is bad into a chance for something that
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: is beautiful.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: And that's what that scene tries to do.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's biblical too, you know, he'll take what
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: the enemy sent for evil and turn it to good.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And then, like you said, they steal the script and
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: turn it into worse. So I'm looking forward to the
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: thing being made the way it should be.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think that would really seal a lot of situation.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: So I think just to touch.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: On some some things and then I'd like to get
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: into your lawyer discussion. I think people need to look
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: up the Pat Robertson the Christian Coalition.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: That is also your story connects to Pat Robertson, the Christian.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Coalition, Liberty University, John Walsh, and America's Most Wanted. There's
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: another school in Pennsylvania. I think you mentioned, wasn't it?
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Is it Messiah?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I don't want to college. University is where the idea
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: for the windows came and the Internet. It's insane.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: All these things were levels to the next level, and
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: that's why I was singled out also among others, I
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: was singled out because of the whole idea of windows,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: which Bill Gates then took and Steve Jobs.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: That is interesting, so in your story that came from
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: your experiences which were traumatic in their own right. Each
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: time you have multiple different threads of billionaires who currently
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: to they have those exact concepts as their legacy.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Absolutely right, it was like dold out.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: They they said that the screenplay, it wasn't just the story,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: it was the tech two worth a lot. And that's why,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: like I said, Jim Joel Silver, I'm sorry with Chowsky's
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: when they were given the story to take it. In
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: ninety five and ninety six, they're given the Immortals, the
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: science Project they call it. They're given the Science Project
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: the Immortals, codinated, code named, and they announced, immediately, we
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: want to do Jackson the back Neck for real.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: It's public. Yeah, yeah, right, so that there you see
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: the tech. They want the tech and the story. They
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: thought that they naturally if they're given the tech, they
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: can claim the story.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, they're given the story, they can claim the
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: tech too. And they were slapped back on that. You
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: never hear him say it again. So that's what they
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: meant by do it for real. And then, like I said,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Warner rose groom to Elon Musk to get it in
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: the end and made sure they had established it was
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: theirs first before he was given it.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: That's and here we are.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: And they're happy as long as they had to longevity
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: and the reset, which they're fast tracking right now. As
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Trump gets older, these other worlds get older, they want
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: to accelerate literally.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: So that brings about the question of the legalities in
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: your story, because this is all technologies thoughts Ip. You
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: know you wrote this, you have the screenplay it was,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: it's in the trademark office. So so there's an understanding
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: that this was your idea. It came out of personal experiences.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: You've told the story about how it connects to that
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: children's book you were inspired by and all these.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Other you know, themed of themes of.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Your life, and then they took it and made billions
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: off of it in multiple different ways while torturing the
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: world in a world dominations theme. So if you were
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: to like exactly, so, if you were to like go
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: to court, I can imagine that a judge probably would
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: not understand that.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: No, but he would understand is that I mean good question.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: He would understand that matrix was never claimed, that all
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: the matchups and Matrix were never claimed because they said
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: that we only claimed sequels. They forced us only claimed
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: sequels with that illegal contract, right you discovered, and so
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: they yeah not to be able to claim matrix. And
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: even that my own deposition, the supplied attorney who was
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: a defense attorney claiming to represent me with the unuspended
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: license before he was objecting to me explaining why I could,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: why I wanted to claim matrix. He objected to me,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: saying anything that would allow me to claim matrix deposition.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: So from what I'm hearing, you had a lawyer that.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: And you've told this in other places, so we should
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: probably back up. But from my understanding, you had a
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: lawyer that, how did you to become his client? Right
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: was not licensed when that happened, and then was sponsored
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: to be licensed by Warner.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Brothers through the case after he threw your case. He
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: was sponsored to get his life.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: What happened was he approached me and he promised one
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars it's just insane, one hundred thousand dollars
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: plus he would get a copyright attorney out of that
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: one hundred thousand plus.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: It would be on a contingency basis. And he said
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: he really wanted to see me get justice.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: And he's a defense attorney, didn't know he how to
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: suspended license in uligible to practice law in California. But
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: he then gets us on board, runs the statute latches out.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: So this is two thousand and nine. Now it's a
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: ten year statue nineteen ninety nine. They make it, you
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: have ten years two thousand and nine. We discovered in
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, and so he gets on board,
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: you have three years after discovery. So he runs out
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: three years and says, we'll have to file by this
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: date and it's pinpoints it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Otherwise you'll be past latches.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: He makes sure that he disappears after two and a
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: half years with us with this faux contract. He then disappears,
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: won't receive calls, won't receive emails, nothing works. We go
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: to office, can't get in. After the of the target
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: for latches is passed. The very next day, he calls
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: and says, well, I guess we missed it. I guess
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: you don't have a case. We go my wife and
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: I at the time, we go, well, maybe we discovered
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: in twenty ten.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: He knows it was two thousand and nine because he.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Shows later a Facebook entry where we said the day
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: we discovered, which we didn't remember for the two and
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: a half years two three years passing.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: So he knows.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: So then at that point he gets excited and he goes, well,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: maybe we can still do it. So this defense attorney
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: was suspended license, still not telling us his license is suspended,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: having taken money from us and solicited us to be
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: his client. Then goes on to make a filing, but
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: he writes an email going it's on, it's on, game on,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: it's in, but I'll have to talk to you about something.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: The next days that follow he filled us in and said, oh,
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: I forgot my license was suspended since what twenty years?
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: And he had forged my signature to make it proper.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: But he didn't give us the contract. Now here's what happens,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: that illegal contract. What happens then, is you have He says,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: we got plenty of time. You got three months to
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: serve the defendants, right California.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Three months.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Again, he disappears, can't reach him, can't call him, no
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: email returns, and the time's running out and serving the defendants.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: So about a couple of days before that runs out,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: I leave a call on a voice message. He's not
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: responding to us, and I said, we're going to contact
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: the judge to see if we can get these defendants served.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: At that moment, Jen, I'm glad you asked. Get a
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: call within half an hour. Within half an hour, get
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: a call from Tony rankin Wait wait, wait, wait, wait,
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: don't contact the judge. Water Bugs will allow us to
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: have an extension to serve the defendants and yeah so
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: and wait wait, and they will also sponsor me to
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: get my cont my license renews.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: What what have we been waiting for?
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: And why do they need to sponsor him to get
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: his license renewed?
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Why?
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: And so what happens is we see in an article.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: I think you found this in an article where Joel
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Silver is ousted from Warner Brothers. Even though he is
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: the one that says he's submitted the Matrix story in
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: ninety four with.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Them, he still claims it in some places too, but
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: he can't.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, because he made a fortune off it,
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: and he's an interviews talking about what's next.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: You know he's still claiming it. You're right.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: It was like he pointed out as a move to
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: masket to keep us from naming him, try to but
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: he was already named. So what happens is they just
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: they severed the relationship for twenty five years, severed that
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: relationship so that he won't like a cover. I think
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: it's a cover where he won't be able to be
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: pinned on it the theft, but he's already been named
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: when we filed, So they allow Warner Brothers.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Here's the part this kills me.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Warner Brothers while sponsoring Rankin Tony Rankin to get his
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: license reinstated after he's basically run out latches. Why jen
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: are they allowing and prequal listening? Why are they allowing
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: the defendants to be served with an extension to serve
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: them if he already won by running the latches down?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? Because they quote ranking in their pocket.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: They know they got a defense attorney whose classmate of
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: their attorney from the University of Berkeley, and they know
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: they can have access to all to the all the drafts,
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: and all the materials that they can steal with impunity
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: later because they could just as they bragged, had my
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: back against the wall, no idea how much has been screwed?
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Quote had Ranked in their pocket.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: So what they did was they were able to take
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: everything and orchestrate a nightmare where they could take stuff,
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: alter packets, take evidence, not return it, and make sure
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: the case was thrown by demanding that only sequels be claimed,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: not Matrix one. But you can't win if you don't
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: name matrix one, and they argued that the matchups and
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: Matrix can't count in the sequels since you're not claiming Matrix.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I want to claim Matrix. Let's claim Matrix. No,
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: you're only going to claim the sequels. And I was
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: bound by an illegal contract that.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: You saw had those five you found those five flags
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and the criminal clause.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: So when he mentions all that, it's on your website,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: it's at tom Oldhouse dot com. Slash contract and the
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: news are that you're mentioning here too is up there
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: on the bottom. September twenty fourth, twenty twelve, WB ends
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Joel silver Era with thirty million dollars payout. Matrix Lethal
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Weapon franchise is part of the deal by Rachel Abrams
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: and Mark Gras Grazer Grauser. It says, as it ends
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: a twenty five year relationship with Joel silver Warner Brothers
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: will play the prolific producer around thirty million dollars for
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: the rights to more than thirty of his films produced
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: under Silver Pictures. Banner an unusual agreement that prevents him
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: from collecting any future coin from hit franchises like The Matrix,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Lethal Weapon and Sherlock Holmes.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: They kind of frame this.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: As something like it's a payout he maybe he did
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: something wrong, like it's a firing, like you're done type
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: of situation. But it almost seems like it would have
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: protected him had you sued or whatever. Would he have
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: been able to be in you know, in the deposition,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: would he have had any like how did how would
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: that have worked out?
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: If he still has rights?
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Well, see, he would be still accountable. He was the
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: one that owned it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: Yet they kept trying to argue, he has nothing to
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: do with it, you can't put we won't let you
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: depose him, this kind of stuff, and Tony Rankin was
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: trying to say that too, and so they actually.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Supported So they're protecting him because he might know some
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: things that would his truth would collaborate.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Well, he's the one that orchestrated the theft. Yeah, that's
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: part of it.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: He's the one that hired the director from Ghosts in
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: the Shell in nineteen ninety four. I mean, the series
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: was going on since the eighties, but he hired him
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety four to do sketches of all the
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: stuff in the Immortals, which is Jackson back of the
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: neck generalist people pills. He had those illustrations done by
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: the director of Ghost and the Shell. And the first
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: thing Rankin said to us when he was coming on
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: board this listed us is we got to watch Jail first.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: We got to watch the Ghost of Shelle because they
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: were gonna make that like, look, this is the plausible
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: story where it came from. But no I submitted in
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: ninety three. Those entries were sent over by Joe Silver
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: in ninety four, so he tried to make applause source material,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: just like he did with Oblivion when Disney held it
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: for him, and they had never finished that novel since
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: they when the case was thrown, Disney hands Oblivion over
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: to Joel Silver.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: They've got the robot like agents, got it right. You
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: got the stadium, all that stuff, the identical figures at
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: the end. You got the little girl pointing to the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: son and the man at the end. So it's exactly
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: the immortals. But Joel Silver claimed they were never going
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: to finish the graphic novel.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: It's not needed anymore plausible source material anymore, like they
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: did with Goes in the Shell.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: So I think it's a very telling aspect. They didn't
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: think we catch on it is.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: That is a very interesting aspect and it seems like
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: the collusion was needed from every aspect of this to
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: keep it quiet because.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: It I mean like they couldn't have seen you coming,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: did they?
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't know they were torturing you through
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: that network to create the screenplay to get this, did they?
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: How did this?
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: I mean I think Pat Robertson, he's going to start
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: all this ball rolling. He didn't want any when I
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: was exposed to the sex ring. Pat Robinsons were going
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: to say. He didn't want the getting out. So you
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: destroy the victims.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: That's what they do. They destroy the victims and reward
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the price.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they Baker acted, you were three to zero two
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: ju or whatever it's called.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And so what happens is you've got them never
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: wanting the screenplay done with my name on it, and
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: they made sure that.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Because that would that would prove.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Some legitimacy, and legitimacy means and how.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: It ties to Robertson's organization. The interrogation scene was actually
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: the president's meaning at Robertson's organization. Like Shakespeare in Love,
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: the real scenes are attached to real life from the author.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: They don't want that ever being done right. So what
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: they did was Roxon was instrumental in making sure the
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: peace got to Disney through his adjunct professor, Ted ned
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Nankovic Venkovic, who his wife and him suddenly got positions
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: from the East Coast at Robertson's organization all the way
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: over at Disney's Story Development Department and Universal Story Development Department.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: So Robertson was instrumental in Disney getting the work and
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: also Lenny Koko getting the work using the grad student
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: of his graduate school, CBN University, Audiusentino, her father in law.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: And that's how I end up with Lenny Coco is
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: Robertson that organized that. So he organized it, and.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: That tried to be wiped from memory.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Someone tried to mind wipe Lenny to not remember meeting you,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: or tell him to say not remember meeting you. And
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: then you having a nice moment saying well, okay, anyway,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: thank you for you know, your time or something. It
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: jogged his mind and he goes, well, I'll tell you
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: my my family remembers meeting you. And isn't I think
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: that's on your website too, on the podcast spot. I
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: think that is the Lenny Coco tape, right.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: A huge thing.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: That's the huge thing because he was he died right
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: after that, not long after that, he died. And it's like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: did you hear the paralegal for Warner Brothers firm?
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: He died not long after that?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Not long and you hear you hear the paralegal going on,
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: did he die? We don't know, although you do know.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: Here's what the article said. I'm glad you asked that.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: The article says this. Remember that scene I read you
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: where it says, you know.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he died in twenty fifteen.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: You're right, undisclosed causes. They never disclosed? Why now when
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: do they do that? When do they ever say undisclosed causes?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I mean to say his.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Market when they're covering something. Yeah, oh it does. That's
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: the first thing that says.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Do wop.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: Singer Lenny Coco, lead vocalist of the vocal group Lenny
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Coco and the Chimes, died on May eighth, twenty fifteen.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: He passed away at his home in Holbrook, New York.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Which is where you said you went right, yep, from
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: undisclosed causes?
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: How about? It's crazy, It's absolutely absolutely nuts.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: And if you look at the original screenplay too, you'll
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: see where it says, where was that?
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Remember I was reading that thing about what he how'd
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: he die? You know what he what he died from?
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: And it says, yeah, wait, that's right for that, I'm
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: looking for it right now. Wait a second, that's right here.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Wait wait that's no, that's after that. They said like undecided.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: You know it's undecided yet because they said they don't
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: know why. Second second, all right, wait a minit second.
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: So, and also you were taken to his place in
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: a way that you were not allowed or something to
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: kind of remember where you were going or something, right,
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: you mean when you went when you went to.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Lenny Koco's place, did you know where you were going?
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was up at his house. I knew where
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: we were going because okay, he took us to his house.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: But here's here's from page twenty nine and the Immortals.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: It says, the Neo character says, I mean, as far
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: as we can prove anything now, and then the agent says,
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: Jewish Guy's dead, and Neo says, what did he die of?
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: And then agent says he speaks to the phone again,
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: and then to Neo unknown and Morpheus character says, you
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: mean undecided, And then so it's right there, that kind
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: of idea. So what did the very same thing? So
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: whether that's intentional or not, but yeah.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: And again you wrote that in eighty nine to ninety two.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: He passed in twenty fifteen, and you met him.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: What twenty call?
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: We just had that phone call, right, I met him
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety three, and that's where the poor Men's
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: packet and the submission letter came after that, after the meeting,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: because he put me on their phone Buona matura with
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: the entourage I was with.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: And that's why.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: So right after you wrote the screenplay, somebody grabs your
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: attention and wants to position it. You meet him, you're
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: taken to his house, you meet him in ninety three,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: and then he says he doesn't remember meeting you. And
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: that's a piece of the puzzle that showcases somebody knew
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: you had written this piece, so you have he knew
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: you wrote this. George Michael knew you wrote this because
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: you wanted a piece of his art, his song in
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: the end title and then and he said yes, So
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: that means he had to have read your screenplay, and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: then he died not long after that.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: When did he die?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: Twenty sixteen, right when the case was fully thrown where
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: there's no more appeal time and everything. So that's when
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: we're being sent to Canada for that.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: And that was natural causes December twenty fifth, twenty sixteen.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Yep, right, Christmas.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Heart failure and so it says a condition of heart
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: muscle for him, and it says a condition of heart
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: congestive heart failures. What they're calling it undisclosed in the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: original articles with Lenny Coco, but now they're saying it
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: if it's written nowadays, they're saying it was congestive heart failure.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Well, they always say the heart gave out. Yeah, so
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: that's what they said with Michael, they say is heart
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: gave out on Christmas.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: And those are two people that had your screenplay because
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: you were either pitching it through their connections or asking
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: them for a piece of their art in your play,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: and you needed to get their permission, so they would
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: have been able if you were in court and it
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: was and you didn't have a corrupt lawyer, they could
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: have been coroberating your story.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Right, they were both they were both keepers of copy
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: of the screenplay and.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Not long after you went to court. So this film
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: was made in ninety nine. They didn't die in two
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: thousand after this. They died after you went to court
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: about this, and it became a thing both randomly of
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: natural causes.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Gone.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm not saying you had anything to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: do with that. I'm just saying that's really not like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: to do with it. But they wouldn't have been trying
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: to cover that up for you, so they they wouldn't have,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: you know, talked on behalf of you. But it sure
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: is hard to talk myself out of thinking it had
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: something to do with them, because those are two pieces
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: of the puzzle that would have been easy to be like, well, okay,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: you say you didn't take his screenplay, but all your
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: stuff's in the movie and you got these two people
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: that say he presented it, So what are you going
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: to say about that?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Right, Jen, They're the best witnesses. They talked about, discussed it,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: read it.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: They're credible.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bull, they're the best ones.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: And for George Michael too, I mean he he you know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: he said, like, you know, send it ins see how
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: it goes.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: He is in the end credits, So that means.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: He saw the full thing and allowed us to submit
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: his music with the submission, and that's another reason they
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: were very afraid of the music being But.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Anyway, exactly so, when we when we talk to people
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: fresh who don't know this story and maybe they've heard
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: the Sophia Stuart story or they believe the Lana Wachowski's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: or whatever situation, they're not taking into account all of
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: the details that you have before Wachowski's are even thought
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: of to do this project right.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Plus Lenny, I mean Lenny.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: At the end of the tape, you hear the paralegal
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: for Warner Brothers going, you're vindicated, You're vindicated.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: She's saying, yeah, we're vindicated.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Lenny, Lenny saying that you were here because he
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: had said you're crazy. When they said, like he said
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: you're crazy. We called him twice you're crazy. And then
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: we call him and he goes like, no, you were here.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: My you know, my wife remembers you. My granddaughter says
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: last night, she remembers you. So he knew he was
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: told last night that you know, the night before that,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: he was told from his wife and his granddaughter was
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: grown that we were there, so he was here.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: It would be really sweet if that granddaughter came out
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: and was like, yeah, I remember.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Meeting Tom Well Nadia Satino contacting me and I said yeah,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: she was working for Robertson's group and a grad student there,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: and I said, yeah, love to talk your granddaughter.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: She moved her immediately to Italy.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Is Nadia Satino the granddaughter?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: No, nan A Satino is the ex daughter in law.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, and she's the connection that set you up. And
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: so the granddaughter moved not long after that, and probably is.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: I said I'd love to talk to granddaughter. She was playing,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: like getting back in my face again. I was like, well,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: then let's talk to granddaughter.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: And she immediately after that said she's moving her to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: the west coast of Italy. She did took her out.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Whether she did or not, she was not going to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: make her accessible. I thought it would kind.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Of that's crazy.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: That's what the attorney for Warner Brothers was saying, Have
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: you contacted Nantios Satino?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Have you made an effort to contact her? Have you
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: contact her? Yes? And no we couldn't find her. They
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: were very concerned about the granddaughter and the wife telling
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: us anything.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so the wife would have been Jenny.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, I believe so, yes, yes, Jenny. Yes.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: It would be really neat if that granddaughter would be
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: able to corroborate yoursel story. So yeah, exactly, or I mean,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: if she's hearing this on her own, that would be
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: you know, hello, you're right, you're right, yep.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: And this is syndicated worldwide.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: So the safety that you're finding is because you're telling
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: your story. You have supporters worldwide, you have people that
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: love this story, understand what you were trying to do,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: and worldwide people know.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Your name now.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, just looking at your website stats, you have
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: so many countries that people are visiting your stuff from.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: It would be hard to do anything right now with
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: anyone not being able to connect a daughter, ask a question.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: And so if this is being heard by anybody that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: worked on the matrix or was part of the you know,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: the artwork for any of these stories that he's talking about,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: and you might remember a random rumor about a screenplay
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: or such and such. He's got a spot on his
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: website where you can contact him and submit one of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: those stories.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: And if you have information, he'd love to hear it.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: All of that ties in and and and they're there's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of you know, other script writers who've gone
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: through this too. So maybe you know Tom's resources, the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: things he has on his website about his documentation, maybe
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: that can inspire you to find pieces for yours, because
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: this isn't I mean, you were a giant story that
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: they stole for a lot of reasons. But there's a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: lot more screenwriters they ripped off for all kinds of artwork,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: and that's just that's, you know, a different kind of
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: it's I don't want to call it trafficking, but they're
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: ripping your brain off for profit and then torturing you.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: So what really is the difference?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: You know, Like, I think we're going to be heading
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: towards the golden age if we survive this reset thing
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: going on in short circuit.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: They like to be clever, and so with it being explained.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: And presented to the public what's going on in China,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: all these were leaders what they're planning, it short circuits them.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: It kind of shifts the direction of the river flow
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: because they no longer feel clever.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: So it does have an effect on them.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: But I think we'll then see a golden age in
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: a film where a lot of writers will get their
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: work restored and we'll get to see what they had intended,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: the passions put back in. It would be amazing to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: see works of art the way they were originally yeah,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: created and delivered, made.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: And so that's why I think we're gonna have a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: golden age later once we solve this reset problem.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: So I think so too. I think that's huge.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: I was looking up the matrix on you know, the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: most important documentation source, the Wikipedia, and they have this
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: stupid little thing down at the bottom where they showcase
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: how it was so influential that it got added into
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: this new database they had to create in nineteen eighty.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Eight called where is It?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: It was inducted into, well, i'll just go forward to
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: where it was. It was inducted into the National Film
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Registry because it had so many interesting pop cultural themes.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: So in nineteen eighty eight, this new registry was created
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: that would be called National Film Preservation Board, and it
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: was created with seven prominent filmmakers, Frank Kapra, Martin Scorsese,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: and others.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: They advocated in Congress they wanted.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: To preserve film and it's all under the guise of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: a great American film heritage. Do right situation nineteen eighty
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: eight is when you were in your abuse situations that cause,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: or I think or the collusion to cover it up.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: You then wrote the script.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: They stole it in ninety three and it was inducted
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: into I don't know when it was, but it said
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: not long after the Matrix. So it's now in that
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: new society that was created at the same timeframe that
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: you were being, you know, a.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Position to make this exactly. That's a giant.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: And then when you look at the pat Robertson collusion
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: with the whole Christian Coalition, which is trending today, also
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: with the Seven Mountain Mandates and the Calvary Chapels and
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: the all of the other discussions, with the collusions and
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: cover ups of the sex rings within the organizations that
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: are sponsored by churches worldwide. Let's not talk about Romania
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: or any of those other situations. So that's not I mean,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: that's not gone away. It got worse.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Fascinates me too, Jen is that many many pastors I've
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: come across have talked about the atheist version of the Matrix,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: but not one, not one of them wanted to bring
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: forward the original, even with proof of the Christian version,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: they didn't want it.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: So what does that say about our churches? I was
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: just attending a pe well that they're cover ups.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all going for like I think, it's like
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: popularity from the pulpit. They're not going for what is
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: real and true and was giving glory.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: To a God God.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: It was like they wanted to be popular by attaching
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: onto the atheist version of the matrix story. I was
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: just like, oh my God, from the pulpit.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Well, it has it has to be that way though,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: because if people so if you have a push pause
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: on me whenever you want to, but if you have
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: a brain cell for this.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's important.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: To discuss that situation with doctor Sova because he was
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: he was still at the marketing department of Liberty University
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: when I looked him up, and want to say, like
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: twenty one or something like that, when I heard your story,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: he was listed on as a department er or some
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: high level things. So from the time your story happened
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: in the eighties until you know today years old, he's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: been positioned, promoted, and seemingly not persecuted for what happened
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: to you, I'm assuming because he was so comfortable doing it,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: you were not the only one.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: No, he was a repeat offender when he came to me.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: We know that.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: The said, so there's clearly other people, and you probably
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: weren't the last one. And he's been promoted ever since.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: That's how they do. It's almost and rewarded for doing
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: the offensive.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: Which is very against what they talk about present discuss
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: But it's interesting because liberty is in so many discussions
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: for sex scandals, and then they just get right over
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: it like they're just still still influential.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: They use the phrase they don't want to see people
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: drag the church through the mud, and that allows the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: perpetrators to continue on.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Well, then their leaders probably shouldn't be operating sex cults
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: on their campus or other campuses, or collusion cults to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: cover that up. I'm assuming that that would that would
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: stop a lot of the corruption at those places.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: You think it's true and then yeah, then they do
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: this phrasing where they'd use this for Sova too. I've
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: seen it done for a number of perpetrators. They'll go
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: he or she is a wonderful man. He's a wonderful man.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: He's hurting this wonderful man. So the perpetrator is posed.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: They did that in those letters that are on your
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: website that they sent.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: You, Yeah, and then emails and things like that or
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: posts on your own s. Yeah.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: They position the perpetrator as a community benefit and then
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: you as a crazy person for saying what happened to
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: you because they can't imagine it happened to you.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Right, you're hurting them, You're hurting the perpetrator by coming forward.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Would you define the exactly?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Would you define the situation that happened with the trailer
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: and however you want to go into it detailed wise,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: I'll let you discuss that. But if would you define
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: that as satanic ritual abuse based on the horrific detail
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: of it and how it was a home homo sexual
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: act for control.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: I would say the way he performed what he did
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: was more a lust driven rampage. It was just like
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: he just was so focused on what he thought he
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: was going to gain and he thought I'd be compliant
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: that it was like it was like right down a
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: railroad track. It was like, try to get me to comply,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: Try to give up into it. Dirty the hands tell
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: me that if I didn't do it, then I would
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: lose position. That he was so lonely pleading, he tried
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: all kinds of tactics in order to get along, and
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: then the roof he came later.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: And that was because you had said, no, I'm not gay,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: No I won't do this, No I want to go back.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: So he made it sound like at that point he
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: got mad when I said, like, I you say anything
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: you can to avoid these situations. I said like, well,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: my problem's not men, it's women. He got up and
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: faced the trailer door. I remember so clearly. He folds
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: his arms away from me, goes like, aren't you macho?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: Like he's really angry because he said I thought you
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: were you know, I thought you were the beard that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: you know you're in theater, I thought you were. It's
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: like it's like he's angry, spent all this time and
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: set up this trip, and well, why don't you just
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: flat out ask? But then he gets like he makes
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: it like it's a done thing. We'll move on, and
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: then on roofeed that's what they do. They go like, oh,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be like we'll move on from this, Okay,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: We'll just do the work and then you're offered something together.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: You know, we'll take this drink, and then you're roofeed.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: So they make it like they're descaling it, and they're
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: coming back down from this that it's closed topic, and
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: that's how they pull it off.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Has he ever has he ever spoken to you or.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Caused a lawsuit or said defamation or address this not once.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't want it to be in surfaced because
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: they got away with everything being shut down.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: That's horrendous because that being so, he was connected to
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Pat Robertson, how.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: He was a professor and then he was rewarded by
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: being an associate dean of communications and at Robertson's organization,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: they actually did a joke with the other faculty where
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: they put his name over a closet entrance and said
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: it Shova's coming out of the closet. They all knew
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: he was gay. He had talked about the faculty hot
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: tub parties and tool parties where they would be naked
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: together and said that women were nothing to look at.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: Robertson's was a cesspol of corruption and they all felt
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: that they were covered by Christ, that grace was increased
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: by them doing wrong. He said his wife knew he
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: was taking the trip. She was okay for it because
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: he was lonely. That's Robertson's organization. And so if you
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: look at Jerry Foalbwall's Liberty University, it's the same animal
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: where they send him there and look at the communication
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: department there and the guy's there.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: It it's basically a sex club.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, so Google doesn't necessarily deter what you're saying.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: They kind of collaborate.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can back up what you're saying here
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: a little bit, so, I mean, you have.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: The deeper details.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: But it's interesting because it says doctor Silva was and
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: the late televangelist Pat Robertson are connected through the Christian
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: higher education in media. Doctor Silva, a recognized communications professor,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: taught at Pat Robertson's Regent University formerly CBN University.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Isn't that what you talk about?
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where he was. That's where I was.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: In Virginia Beach, Virginia.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: Doctor Silva taught at Regent School's Communication of the Arts.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: He played a foundational role in equipping students for careers
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: in Christian television, media production, and broadcasting industries. That Robertson
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: championed through the Christian Broadcasting Network. Doctor Solva taught strategic
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: communications for many years before stepping into other academic roles,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: leaving long standing legacy of mentoring media minded students with
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: conservative Christian academia from Liberty University. Pat Robertson, the prominent
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: evangelical leader who hosted the network's flagship show, The seven
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: hundred Club and founded the Christian Coalition, passed away at
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: the age of ninety three.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: This does not mention that he was.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Running for president and had all kinds of other theories
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: and themes and discussions. So I don't know, Tom, this
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: kind of aligns with everything you were saying.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it froze on my side while you were talking.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: It's really weird. When you brought Sova up, it kept
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: freezing you while you were talking.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Right when we started talking about communications, it froze your screen.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: I saw that. I hope it.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: I hope it recorded what I was saying, But I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: saw that you were freezing.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: I was hoping you were still here.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: You don't want this out. They do not want this
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: out because it goes back to Kempsville Presbyterian Church where
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: Sova had told me about the pastor David Anderson. That's
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: why Thomas A. Anderson and for Neo you're all in
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: on it, came forward and confessed about sexual relations with
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: Pat Robertson and the head of his sorry grad school,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: so the president of the grad school.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: So that's what that David Anderson confessed to his congregation
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: at Councel Presbyterian Church. That's why pat Robertson sent his
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: PR person.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: In charge of it for a year to cover it
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: up and to indoctrinate the congregation never to talk about
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: it because it would quote drag the church through the Mud.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: And that's why they named neo Thomas A. Anderson also anyway,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: it's pretty wild. Wow.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was Dave Anderson.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: David Anderson.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: He was sent to doc North Carolina after he went
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: forward and confessed and in David Geyerdson's the PR person
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: who took over brought Robinson put in charge of the
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: congregation with a staff of twenty guys in suits that
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: made sure they would be indoctrinated not to say anything.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: David Gyerson, the one that said in his resume that
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: he took over at Councel Presbyterian church because the previous
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  Speaker 4: pastor had been involved in a moral failure, was confessing
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  Speaker 4: to the congregation he had sex.
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  Speaker 3: With Robertson, and the moral failure was the David Anderson was.
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  Speaker 2: David Anderson the moral failure because he had gone before
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  Speaker 2: his congregation con about sexual relations with Pat Robertson.
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  Speaker 1: Just double checking because you're correct. When I Google search
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  Speaker 1: who is.
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  Speaker 3: A David Anderson involved with the Kempsville Church anywhere? And
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  Speaker 3: it comes up Kempsville Presbyterian Church in Virginia Beach and
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  Speaker 3: Reverend David James Anderson was a highly influential former pastor
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  Speaker 3: of Kempsville KPC, served the congregation during its early foundational years.
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  Speaker 4: So Guyson took over as soon as he was removed
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  Speaker 4: for his confession in front of the congregation and then
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  Speaker 4: spilled it into his resume. So a pr person heading
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  Speaker 4: the church for over a year with his staff of
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  Speaker 4: twenty to make sure that they never talked anyway.
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  Speaker 2: That's that.
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  Speaker 3: This is crazy because this says he did not leave
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  Speaker 3: Kempsville under a cloud, and they're bolding it. I love
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  Speaker 3: it when AI gets like, oh, no, hold on, we
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  Speaker 3: have to collude this story says David did not leave
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  Speaker 3: the church because of moral failure or a confession of wrongdoing.
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  Speaker 1: There are no public rectords. And I didn't ask that.
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  Speaker 1: I said, why did he leave?
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  Speaker 4: Far because right here I have David Geyerdson's resume. Look
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  Speaker 4: up David Garrison's resume online. It'll say in the entry
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  Speaker 4: that he had to because of a moral failure. It's
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  Speaker 4: a quote from his resume. Let me see if I
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  Speaker 4: can get.
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  Speaker 1: On my end Gyerson, is that chief.
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  Speaker 4: David Geyerdson G y E R Geyart's son T S
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  Speaker 4: O N or something, so I can find it for you.
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  Speaker 4: It's too important that one on the Christian Why would
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  Speaker 4: chat g why would it put up that?
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  Speaker 1: That's a google AI.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nuts too, because I didn't even I didn't
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  Speaker 3: even ask anything to lead it to that. I said,
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  Speaker 3: why did David Anderson leave? And what was his confession?
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  Speaker 3: That's all I said, And it said.
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  Speaker 1: The Reverend David.
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  Speaker 3: While you're looking, the Reverend David James Anderson did not
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  Speaker 3: leave Kempsville Presbyterian Church under the cloud of a scandal,
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  Speaker 3: moral failure, or a confession of wrongdoing.
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  Speaker 1: There are no public records.
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  Speaker 3: News articles or church archives, indicating that he was forced
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  Speaker 3: out of a confessed or confessed to a crime or sin.
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  Speaker 1: Instead, his departure from.
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  Speaker 3: KPC was part of a standard career progression and the
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: traditional Presbyterian minister moving from one pastorate to another. The
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  Speaker 3: confusion regarding a confession or a dramatic exit likely stems
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: from a mix up with different contexts.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Can you clip that? I'd love to put it
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  Speaker 2: on the website at some point here because I want
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  Speaker 2: to put it side by side with David geyerd Sin's
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  Speaker 2: his resume. So let me go ahead and pull up
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  Speaker 2: his resume thing real quick, because this is too important. Look,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: look how they're scared because I said, this is the thing.
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  Speaker 2: This is the smoking gun that.
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  Speaker 4: Blows Robertson out of the water, and therefore chat Chee covering.
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  Speaker 2: For him like that on such a line is very
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  Speaker 2: very important, very important. So I can get the thing here.
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  Speaker 2: On second, let me try to find it. This is
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: way too important.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting about him is he's from Kentucky and
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: he went to Michigan State University.
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  Speaker 1: So that's intriguing.
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  Speaker 2: This is way too important that that unbelievdle that's show
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  Speaker 2: us how AI is being manipulated to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted.
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  Speaker 3: To say, and he says he's a David Geyertson PhD.
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  Speaker 3: I can't find what you're showing, but just to prove
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  Speaker 3: that he is what you're saying he was, it says
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  Speaker 3: he is a founding team member of Regent University in
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  Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven. David returned there as president in nineteen ninety.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, so he went to cover that up too, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but either way, the timeline matches exactly what you're
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, to see it in his own resume is absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 2: The very words that chat TP is saying didn't exist
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  Speaker 2: is really really important. In fact that remember that string
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  Speaker 2: I did with you for Traumetrioge, which was dealing with
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  Speaker 2: the pat Robertson letters. It's in there. Yeah, yeah, it's
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: in the thread.
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  Speaker 4: If I don't find it right here right now, it's
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: in the thread, and that'll be very very important to have.
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  Speaker 1: So we put them there and that'll be good.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing that destroys them, that will destroy it.
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  Speaker 3: So you have David Geyertsen's resume showing that he came
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  Speaker 3: in because there was a scandal.
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  Speaker 7: He says, he puts it on his resume. He says
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  Speaker 7: those very words. He says those very words on his resume.
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  Speaker 7: So that's what's in that packet. I sent you on
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  Speaker 7: to try to find it right here, but it's too crucial.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna try to find it right here because
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  Speaker 2: he says the very words. I think it's right here.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: That's the words he uses. That it's materials.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking online too for that what you talked about.
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  Speaker 2: Also here the stacks too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the letter that you received from Pat Robertson
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  Speaker 3: was January tenth, nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 2: You found the hilation of.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking to see if I have the one year
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  Speaker 3: that's Jenkins, this is Pittman.
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  Speaker 2: And if we don't find it right here, I will
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: spend the day looking for it because it's too important,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: way too important, now that we know that they're trying
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: to backlash.
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  Speaker 8: See Darling Graves, Paul Man sime In here hired the
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  Speaker 8: three oh two still sober one.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting things slowly for this one. You got it?
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  Speaker 2: Got it? Okay, let me hold it up for you.
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  Speaker 2: So let's put this so you can see it and
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: then i'll if I need to, I'll scan it again.
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  Speaker 2: But watch what I have here one second. This is
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: so cool to see. All right, here you go and
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  Speaker 2: hold up to the camera. Are you ready? So here's
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: the first page.
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  Speaker 8: See David g PhD right, he puts on here, he
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  Speaker 8: posts it on and puts confidential.
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  Speaker 4: He postsed online. Now here's the first page Region University.
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  Speaker 4: This is you know, his whole resume?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Does that say two lane down there? Under that it's
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: says Taylor, Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: I watch this reaching university president. That's what you saw.
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  Speaker 2: There's that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the Asbury, Kentucky.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go. Here we go, take a screenshot.
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  Speaker 3: Goodness, hold there, Yeah, that's I'm going to put you
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  Speaker 3: main screen for a second so I can get that big.
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  Speaker 2: This is the killer.
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  Speaker 4: We can take on chat on this one and post
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  Speaker 4: this clear. I can't believe they have used his own language.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so give me one second. Hold that there? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right? Will you read that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what it says.
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  Speaker 4: All right, June nineteen eighty five to May nineteen eighty six.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: That's a year one month missing. KEMPSL Presbyterian Church, Virginia
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  Speaker 4: Beach Virginia Interim Senior Minister served as the interim senior
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: minister for a two thousand member PCUSA congregation while they
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: searched for a new pastor. Supervised a staff of about
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: twenty full time employees and ministers, and then a budget
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: of about one point five million, stabilized the congregation after
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: the loss of the previous pastor due to a moral failure,
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  Speaker 4: provided direction for the development of a new strategic plan,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: and assisted with a transition to a new senior minister.
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  Speaker 4: Left when new senior minister was identified and.
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  Speaker 1: Installed a moral failure his.
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  Speaker 2: Own language, his own resume, the very man sent for
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  Speaker 2: the cover up. And that's what chat TPT is saying
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: didn't happen. Wow, that's why we need to post that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: That's a huge deal.