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Ross Fulton Analysis: Why Ohio State's Offense Bogged Down In The Cotton Bowl · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday, January seventh, I'm
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Speaker 1: are diving deep on this game against Miami. We have
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Speaker 1: ten plays. I think that might be a new program
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Speaker 1: record for us on one of these shows. But before
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Speaker 1: we get into that, I wanted to start with something
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Speaker 1: that really jumped out to me from the first snap
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Speaker 1: of the game. You and I had talked before the
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Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl about the fact that Ohio State was going
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Speaker 1: to finally be able to get away from the silent
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Speaker 1: count because okay, you don't have to deal with the loud,
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Speaker 1: loud crowd and nan Arbor, the loud crowd in Indianapolis.
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Speaker 1: You've got at least sixty percent of highest state fans
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Speaker 1: in the stadium, and what an advantage that was going
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Speaker 1: to be to get away from that. And then they
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Speaker 1: went back to the silent count and they thought, Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's that's real weird to me. What were your thoughts
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Speaker 1: on that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty inexplicable. I really don't have any justification
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Speaker 2: for it. I know Day said after the game they
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Speaker 2: were worried about it echoing and the just the stadium there,
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Speaker 2: like I'd have to go back and watch other games
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Speaker 2: at the Cowboy Games or whatnot if their teams like
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Speaker 2: go silent count. I don't know. I thought it was
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Speaker 2: bizarre and like, why wouldn't you at least try to
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Speaker 2: not have to use a silent count if you like
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Speaker 2: you're forced to do it. Miami notably never did, but
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Speaker 2: you know, I have clips here, like definitely times where
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Speaker 2: like Miami was teeing off on the silent count and
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Speaker 2: timing it out. And then there are other times like
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Speaker 2: when Ohio State used motion you could see because they
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Speaker 2: had to like do the double tap with the motion
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Speaker 2: like Miami was jumping, and that would like actually give
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Speaker 2: them a picture of what they were going to get
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Speaker 2: and then they were able to snap it without like
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Speaker 2: Miami team off. But for a team that was already
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Speaker 2: you know, Miami's advantage on the defensive line obviously, and
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Speaker 2: for a team that was struggling blocking them like that
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Speaker 2: really exacerbated issues. And as I said, I just don't
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Speaker 2: have a good explanation for why if you're forced to
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Speaker 2: do it, that's one thing, but like you know, it
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Speaker 2: seemed like Ohio State had sixty plus percent of the
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Speaker 2: fans in the stadium and Miami didn't have to do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a little weird. One thing that gave
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Speaker 1: Miami a little bit of an advantage. Something also gave
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Speaker 1: in Miami a little bit of an advantage along with
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Speaker 1: their defensive line was Ohio State felt like they were
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Speaker 1: going east west a little bit early in the game,
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Speaker 1: especially with the run game, and they feel like they
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Speaker 1: sort of got that sorted out later, but earlier in
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Speaker 1: the game you saw stretch. It's just a lot of
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Speaker 1: kind of sideline the sideline runs, and that did not
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Speaker 1: feel like the ideal way to go after that Miami
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Speaker 1: defensive front.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, part of the story of this game is it
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Speaker 2: didn't seem like the plan coming in ended up working
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Speaker 2: obviously the way they thought it would, and they did
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Speaker 2: it just and but you know, with the pick six,
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Speaker 2: it obviously became like a little too little, too late.
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Speaker 2: But like part of that was a big part of
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Speaker 2: that was in the run game, and they were definitely
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Speaker 2: looking to Uh. I thought base out of stretch early on.
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Speaker 2: And you know, Miami likes bringing edge pressure like they're
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Speaker 2: a fire zone team. We talked about that, like they
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Speaker 2: bring five, they play three deep, three under behind it
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Speaker 2: quite a bit. I think they did that on almost
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Speaker 2: like half their snaps against High of State. And they
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Speaker 2: love bringing like you can see here, like to the
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Speaker 2: open side away from the tight end O High State
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Speaker 2: and this play is an unbalanced four by zero. Uh
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Speaker 2: they like bringing edge pressure, which they do here with
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Speaker 2: the corner blitz. I guess Ohio State thought they were
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Speaker 2: getting away from that by like going unbalanced and running
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Speaker 2: toward the field, but like you know, this is actually
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Speaker 2: blocked up. Okay, It's just that Miami like has the
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Speaker 2: bodies there and they're just ready to like string this
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Speaker 2: out and Ruben Bain is able to you know, he
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Speaker 2: likes to play it to the outside. You see this
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Speaker 2: a few times and you know basically run this play
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Speaker 2: down and you know, I think you could be argued
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Speaker 2: that bo Jackson should cut it up, but you know,
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Speaker 2: gave Van Sickle, and I mean we can talk about
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Speaker 2: this a whole other issue obviously, but like the choice
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Speaker 2: to start him as opposed to even like Josh Padilla
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Speaker 2: who they brought in then, who was ahead of gave
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Speaker 2: Van Sickle before his injury, like really put them behind
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Speaker 2: a ball. He gets beat across his face here by
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Speaker 2: the nose tackle, which probably prevents bo Jackson from cutting up.
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Speaker 2: So in both the run game and the pass game,
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Speaker 2: as we'll talk about, like the initial plan upon contact
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Speaker 2: that kind of had to be chucked out the window.
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Speaker 1: The next three plays I think are all kind of
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Speaker 1: what if kind of plays, because this is a sequence
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Speaker 1: of plays that led to the pick six. The third
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Speaker 1: one is going into the pick six, just going to
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Speaker 1: warn you about that right now. This first one they
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Speaker 1: ended up hitting his long pass down field to Jeremiah Smith.
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Speaker 1: But it feels like this is one where all a
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Speaker 1: year long, it feels like it's been just you know,
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Speaker 1: it's been a little underthrown. Don't overthrow, make sure you
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Speaker 1: get the completion. But it he was like if he
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Speaker 1: led Jeremiah Smith here, he could have been six points
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Speaker 1: on this one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is one's tough. I mean, I don't
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Speaker 2: hold this one as much against him. I mean again,
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Speaker 2: so like Ohio State clearly wanted to push the football
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Speaker 2: down the field, and you get like Miami's playing a
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Speaker 2: ton of single high coverage against them, like bringing five,
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Speaker 2: there's openings, like there are shots to be had right
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Speaker 2: like the first years of the game, and for better
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Speaker 2: or worse, Like I don't think like this was the
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Speaker 2: best strategy overall to like open the game. Like first series,
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Speaker 2: third and seven, they run double moves right and like
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Speaker 2: people were open but they couldn't protect it. But here,
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Speaker 2: like this is a classic cover three beater, Like you're
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Speaker 2: running a post route behind a dig, you know, so
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Speaker 2: you're putting that middle of the field safety in a bind,
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Speaker 2: like you got one underneath him and one above him,
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Speaker 2: you know, another fire zone for Miami. So you get
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Speaker 2: three deep, three under and you know they hit this
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Speaker 2: to Smith. So like the thing that's sort of frustrating
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Speaker 2: again about like the initial plan was, like Miami did
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Speaker 2: not show things that they hadn't really run this year. Like,
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Speaker 2: as I said, they've been a heavy cover three team
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Speaker 2: and fire zone three, deep three under team, and they
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Speaker 2: ran a ton of that against Ohio of State. So
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Speaker 2: the opportunities were there for High State to get them
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Speaker 2: and cover three and use cover three beaters, and they
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Speaker 2: caught a lot of them. But you know, this was
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Speaker 2: one where you like, you the successful way to attack
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Speaker 2: down the field as opposed to like some of the
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Speaker 2: times where they were just trying to get sort of
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Speaker 2: the one on one on the outside and you know,
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Speaker 2: throw up sort of the go route to Smith or
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Speaker 2: Tate that say was like kind of just off on.
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Speaker 2: They were kind of drive killers a few times.
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Speaker 1: On yesterday's show, you talked one of the things that
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Speaker 1: you talked about, as you know, sort of a an
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Speaker 1: area for potential improvement for the next season is finding
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Speaker 1: those open routes down the seams and hitting them. It
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Speaker 1: seems like those were there at times during that game
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Speaker 1: and the Ohio State just wasn't able to capitalize on him.
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Speaker 1: This next one feels like it is a great example
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Speaker 1: of that if you did not see Max Claire running
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Speaker 1: open on the on this one. This is the play
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Speaker 1: right after that Jeremiah Smith of along completion. You got
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Speaker 1: Max Clayer down the middle here and I guess Julian
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Speaker 1: Saying just didn't see him and ends up taking a sack.
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Speaker 1: And this is this is another one of these like,
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Speaker 1: oh what could have been for Ohio State?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I'm not going to sit here
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Speaker 2: and pretend that Ohio State's protection was great, as I said,
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Speaker 2: like a lot of trying to push the football vertically,
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Speaker 2: which requires more time. Like I think every offensive lineman,
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Speaker 2: you know, as I said, like Van Sickle making his
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Speaker 2: first start, it was certainly a problem, but like could
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Speaker 2: find clips of mistakes by pretty much every offensive lineman.
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Speaker 2: Like here Luke Montgomery has his tendency to get beat,
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Speaker 2: like they put Ruben bayin inside you know, he basically
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Speaker 2: throws Montgomery. But like I do think though, this is
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Speaker 2: kind of those ones where, like you know we were
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Speaker 2: talking about yesterday, like where Julian Saying could improve or
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Speaker 2: where like the pass rush was like perversely causing him
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Speaker 2: to hold the ball as the season went on, So
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Speaker 2: you know, you have to look at his eyes right,
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Speaker 2: so like it's a progression. So it's not just like
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Speaker 2: you can see Claire running open and be like, oh,
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Speaker 2: he's got that, so saying he's it's like kind of
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Speaker 2: like it's a ye cross basically. So Claire's running the cross,
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Speaker 2: you got the backside dig behind him, and then you
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Speaker 2: have this high load of the boundary. He looks to
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Speaker 2: be reading the boundary, So like the first thing you
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Speaker 2: could say is like, if you're reading the boundary when
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Speaker 2: you see you know, from the from the end zone angle,
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Speaker 2: like that ball should get out to Brandon indus right there,
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Speaker 2: Like he's got depth. If that's your read, if he's
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Speaker 2: going to pull it back and come back to Claire,
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Speaker 2: I still think the ball needs to be out like
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Speaker 2: he's I still think he has time to throw it
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Speaker 2: because Claire's so wide open. And so some of that
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Speaker 2: is just like as I said, it was for someone
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Speaker 2: who is a pretty quick processor, ironically, like sometimes the
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Speaker 2: pressure seems to force him to hold it and not
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Speaker 2: and be less decisive, and so yeah, this is sort
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Speaker 2: of there's a as I said, there's a few of
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Speaker 2: these with routes down the middle of the field where
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Speaker 2: guys were open and whether it be protection or saying
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Speaker 2: not seeing, it just didn't happen and could of one
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Speaker 2: of those what might have been, because as I said,
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Speaker 2: Miami is basically sticking with their plan of being aggressive,
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Speaker 2: and I think they you know, made a bet that
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Speaker 2: they could either affect saying or you know, he wouldn't
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Speaker 2: see those enough, and it paid off because because they're
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Speaker 2: definitely openings down the field.
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Speaker 1: All right, this next one, it is the pick six,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I think we have to start this
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Speaker 1: by tipping your hat to Keyante Scott the nickel for Miami.
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Speaker 1: This is a heck of a play. Incredible break on
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Speaker 1: the ball. Not the greatest block in history out of
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith on this one. But you know, walk us
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Speaker 1: through what went wrong here other than Kant Scott making
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Speaker 1: a great play.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, justin Whitlatch talked about it before the game in
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Speaker 2: his preview. You know, Miami's really good on the outside
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Speaker 2: against these reliefs, and you know his his recommendation was
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Speaker 2: at a high stage hit of Shelvy's and that unfortunately
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Speaker 2: proved prophetic. As I said yesterday, I didn't think like
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Speaker 2: the RPOs that they use were particularly well suited for Miami.
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Speaker 2: You know, I would have liked to see more of those,
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Speaker 2: like skinny posts or glance routes where you're waiting, you know,
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Speaker 2: using that safety rotation from cover three against them and
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Speaker 2: then the safety comes down you can hit that behind it.
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Speaker 2: I think they only threw one of those. But here
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Speaker 2: they get you know, I think they thought they were
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Speaker 2: going to get a look. Here they go unbalanced and
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Speaker 2: they're running GT counter. It's four by zero and you
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Speaker 2: have the numbers. I'm not sure why, like Smith takes
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Speaker 2: this outside route because Claire is coming around him, so
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Speaker 2: you think he would block down at you know, so
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like a mental miscue between
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Speaker 2: them or what. But yeah, I mean doubly unfortunate because
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Speaker 2: I do think if he gets any piece of Scott,
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Speaker 2: like there's a big alley there for Brandon innis for
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Speaker 2: a positive game. But obviously, you know, when you're in
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Speaker 2: a game this clus, you know, you can just like
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Speaker 2: the Indiana game, like you get the Bill Conley numbers afterwards,
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Speaker 2: and like you know on an EPA or you know,
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Speaker 2: per play basis, like Ohigh State should have won that
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Speaker 2: game seventy percent of the time, you know, using sp plus.
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Speaker 2: But obviously when you have massive turnovers like a pick six,
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Speaker 2: that makes it that much more difficult. You know, on
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Speaker 2: the you're down to down efficiency.
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Speaker 1: And they weren't efficient at times. We're just kind of
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Speaker 1: going if you haven't picked up the pattern here, we're
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Speaker 1: just kind of going sequentially through.
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Speaker 2: The game at this point.
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Speaker 1: And they did find some success in the past game.
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Speaker 1: And this next one is an example. And this is,
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Speaker 1: you know, not the most complex route combination of the world,
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Speaker 1: but you run a nice little curl to you run
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Speaker 1: a nice kind of like a wheel in a curl
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Speaker 1: and Jeremiah Smith is there for a nice pickup. I
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Speaker 1: think this was a third down play ended up picking
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Speaker 1: up a first down on this one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the kind of things that worked throughout
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Speaker 2: the game. And like, I think this fits Julian saying,
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Speaker 2: and I just said, I think a big part of
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Speaker 2: the success in the second half is they lean more
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Speaker 2: into these kind of routes and that allowed Saying to
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Speaker 2: get comfortable when he threw more in time. But like
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Speaker 2: this is where he's really good. He's decisive, he throws
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Speaker 2: in rhythm, he's accurate. These you know, this is a
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Speaker 2: spacing concepts you're basically getting four curls. You know, he
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Speaker 2: hits this in time. Like again, this is another zone
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Speaker 2: blitz from Miami. So again three deep, three under so
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Speaker 2: you might as well like stretch those three underneath defenders right,
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Speaker 2: which is what they do here. And you know, again
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Speaker 2: like Miami wins up front, right, Like that's another example
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Speaker 2: when you get to the back view that like they
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Speaker 2: bring the pressure Austin Saraville over said, you know, they
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Speaker 2: slide forward to the right and then Sarahville is sitting
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Speaker 2: to the left and he overseets and Bain blows right
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Speaker 2: inside of him, and like you know they're right at
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Speaker 2: saying when he throws. But like because you're not trying
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Speaker 2: to push the ball as vertically, you just have the
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Speaker 2: ability to get the ball out. And I thought they
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Speaker 2: did a better job in the second half, like more
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Speaker 2: consistently easing these like sit routes, spacing routes on the
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Speaker 2: two minute row. We'll get into that. Like they showed
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Speaker 2: some some variety or like snag and drive and some
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Speaker 2: other like underneath routes which kind of got them going.
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Speaker 2: And so I just I just think there's just too
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Speaker 2: much emphasis on, uh trying to push the ball downfield
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Speaker 2: repeatedly and like go for the kill a shot instead
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Speaker 2: of like getting in a rhythm with these throws, like
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Speaker 2: take advantage of the fact that you're getting you know,
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Speaker 2: only three underneath defenders and like hit a few of
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Speaker 2: these and then and then go from there.
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Speaker 1: And then I think this next one is also from
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Speaker 1: that drive right before halftime. And this is another one.
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Speaker 1: I think they might have shown this one on TV,
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Speaker 1: but it was one where it was like going back
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Speaker 1: and watching it was like, man, oh man, there was
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Speaker 1: an opportunity here to hit Carnel tape for what would
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Speaker 1: have been one of the longest touchdowns in Ohio state
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Speaker 1: football history. Could have been a little reminiscent of that
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Speaker 1: seventy five yard touchdown to Trevon Henderson right before halftime
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Speaker 1: in the Cotton Bowl last year. And then could have
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Speaker 1: you know, could have would have showed it here on
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Speaker 1: Carnell tape being open in the middle of the field.
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Speaker 1: But again it's you know, if you're not looking at him,
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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily see it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again this is like, you know, I think
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Speaker 2: they could have done a better job with like some
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Speaker 2: bootlegs things like that, But like here they do move
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Speaker 2: the pocket and you know they so you kind of
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Speaker 2: have this weak flood concept and then this this whole
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Speaker 2: shot behind it. You know, Miami clearly busts the coverage,
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Speaker 2: like the safety comes down hard on the run fake
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Speaker 2: even if like that throw it to Tate is like
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Speaker 2: not in the progression and like I don't know Tate's
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Speaker 2: got his hand up, so I have to think, like
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Speaker 2: it's hard to tell whether it was like purposely designed
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Speaker 2: to go to that throwback saying doesn't ever seem to
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Speaker 2: look there, like I still think he should have hit
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Speaker 2: the corner route though there even still you like you
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Speaker 2: have some space. So yeah, I mean, as I said,
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Speaker 2: there's like three or four of these seam you know
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Speaker 2: balls where it if you know you send it not
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Speaker 2: to sound like a broken record, but like you get
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Speaker 2: the time or like saying seese it, you know, be
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Speaker 2: a very different game quickly, and you force Miami out
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Speaker 2: of there the package of what they're doing, and you know,
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Speaker 2: so again and those are the kind of things like
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Speaker 2: when we talk about tempo or getting the ball back,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Like you know, the thing that speeds you
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Speaker 2: up the most is like if you hit explosives, but
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Speaker 2: they kept kind of missing the explosives, so like they
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Speaker 2: had to you know, move the ball downfield one first
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Speaker 2: down at a time for the most part, and so
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Speaker 2: that that obviously when you're behind, eats up some clock
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Speaker 2: and you know it's hard to get the ball back
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Speaker 2: then as well, you.
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Speaker 1: Mentioned earlier how they could sometimes use motion and sort
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Speaker 1: of the double tap to you know, sort of suss
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Speaker 1: out where Miami is bringing pressure. This next one is
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Speaker 1: a great example of that, where you see the linebacker
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Speaker 1: coming in right in the middle of the field, and
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Speaker 1: so where does the ball go right where that linebacker
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Speaker 1: has just vacated and a nice, nice easy crossing route
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Speaker 1: to brandon it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is like kind of a good
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Speaker 2: example of what we're talking about with the silent count
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Speaker 2: as you can see, like just even that little bit
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Speaker 2: slows down with that yoo motion to end as you
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Speaker 2: get the double tap. So then and then you can
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Speaker 2: see where the pressure is coming from. So you know,
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Speaker 2: got to simulate a pressure here they're bringing forward again
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Speaker 2: another cover three. One thing I liked about this two
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Speaker 2: minute drive is like you finally saw some variety in
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Speaker 2: the pass game. So, like we were talking about with
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Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator search earlier this week of like, you
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Speaker 2: know a lot of times it was like we're going
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Speaker 2: to run curl flat or spacing, or we're going to
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Speaker 2: like take shots, and there's sort of like no other variety,
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Speaker 2: And like on this drive before the half, you saw
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Speaker 2: you know, this is a drive concept, so you get
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Speaker 2: like the shallow cross underneath, like the middle route. You know,
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Speaker 2: you saw snag where you run like a curl with
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Speaker 2: a flat and then a corner route like triangle combination.
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Speaker 2: So like at least some like variety of the pass game,
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Speaker 2: and that just seemed to help open things up when
16:49
Speaker 2: teams can't like just guess that you're going to be
16:52
Speaker 2: running curl flat and you know obviously they you know, again,
16:58
Speaker 2: another would I could a shitlo would have? I talked
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Speaker 2: earlier this week about like if saying had just even
17:03
Speaker 2: scrambled and stopped the clock with ten seconds left, and
17:06
Speaker 2: even if you have to kick a field goal, like
17:08
Speaker 2: at least you're kicking like a forty yarder instead of
17:10
Speaker 2: a forty nine yarder, you know, you get those three
17:12
Speaker 2: points going into halftime. What might have been? But like
17:15
Speaker 2: I do think this two minute drive in terms of
17:17
Speaker 2: like the second half, six success showed them that like
17:21
Speaker 2: some of this, like timing routes, were a better way
17:24
Speaker 2: to go rather than like hoping you could hold up
17:27
Speaker 2: and push the football against you know, six man protect
17:30
Speaker 2: or pass coverage schemes.
17:33
Speaker 1: Earlier we talked about some of the stuff that was
17:35
Speaker 1: not working for them in the run game. This is
17:37
Speaker 1: an example of something that does this. Next one guys
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Speaker 1: run the ball between the tackles. This is also after
17:42
Speaker 1: the point where Josh Padia came in at right guard
17:44
Speaker 1: and Josh Pidia kind of pulls around and helps turn
17:47
Speaker 1: this into a nice gain for Bojackson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Padilla and Moore both played pretty well
17:52
Speaker 2: given the circumstances. Like I think I said earlier this week,
17:56
Speaker 2: I thought that More was probably their best offensive lineman
17:58
Speaker 2: in the game. But like so you see, like you know,
18:02
Speaker 2: we talked about in the run game, how they start
18:04
Speaker 2: out with a lot of stretch and then they really
18:06
Speaker 2: started raining the football inside it kids. Miami likes to
18:09
Speaker 2: bring that edge pressure right so, like here you can
18:11
Speaker 2: see it like they're bringing a safety off the edge.
18:13
Speaker 2: They're like blitzing that open side away from the tight end.
18:17
Speaker 2: You know, the defensive ends like to get wide. You know,
18:20
Speaker 2: they were focused on rushing the passer. Uh, so you're
18:23
Speaker 2: able to get a good kick out here pull around.
18:25
Speaker 2: This is a big gain off of like you know, uh,
18:28
Speaker 2: this is basically a power out right, you're kicking out,
18:31
Speaker 2: you're pulling. You saw a lot of these, like they
18:34
Speaker 2: went away from so much stretch to more like power.
18:37
Speaker 2: You saw some like gh counter the use some of
18:40
Speaker 2: that like King and Queen formation where like the second
18:43
Speaker 2: tight ends more like a lined up next to saying
18:45
Speaker 2: with a pistol back and getting the football inside like
18:49
Speaker 2: north and south inside of all that edge pressure. But
18:52
Speaker 2: if anything, like I know these clips are very pass heavy,
18:57
Speaker 2: but they probably didn't run the football enough, Like they
19:00
Speaker 2: weren't getting explosive off of it, but like they were
19:02
Speaker 2: getting pretty consistent chunks once they started going north and south,
19:05
Speaker 2: and particularly when they got later in the game, like
19:08
Speaker 2: they still had plenty of time. I thought they got
19:10
Speaker 2: away from the run game a little bit too quickly.
19:12
Speaker 2: But you know it would be nice, as I said,
19:15
Speaker 2: to see like Bo Jackson here he breaks one at
19:17
Speaker 2: the second level. Like Miami's safeties are physical in the
19:20
Speaker 2: run game and so like credit to them for getting
19:22
Speaker 2: him down like you'd like to see him like make
19:24
Speaker 2: them miss or run them over occasionally. But nevertheless, like
19:30
Speaker 2: I thought, the Ohio State run game actually performed pretty well,
19:34
Speaker 2: certainly like from the in the second half.
19:37
Speaker 1: All right, we got two more. The first one. This
19:39
Speaker 1: will bring a smile to your face. This is the touchdown.
19:42
Speaker 1: This is the touchdown pass dude, Jeremiah Smith that got
19:45
Speaker 1: the Buckeyes kind of back into the game in the
19:46
Speaker 1: third quarter.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I thought I had to grab this
19:49
Speaker 2: because you know, we often talk about things that don't work,
19:52
Speaker 2: and like they got the message from the Indiana game, right,
19:55
Speaker 2: Like the short yardage and like goal line packages were
19:57
Speaker 2: totally different, and like we were. I was calling for them
20:01
Speaker 2: after the Indiana game, like please throw inside breaking rouse
20:04
Speaker 2: to Jeremiah Smith in these like short yardage and goal
20:06
Speaker 2: line situations, and like lo and behold they do they
20:09
Speaker 2: actually Miami tries to drop back into it, but you have,
20:14
Speaker 2: you know, hit him and he's able to score on
20:17
Speaker 2: fourth and two. Here, you know you get that safety
20:20
Speaker 2: coming down aggressively against the run. So you know they
20:23
Speaker 2: stayed in twelve personnel shotgun in the goal line in
20:26
Speaker 2: the red zone and short yardage kept Carnel Taine Jeremi
20:30
Speaker 2: Smith on the field, and like, you know, this worked,
20:33
Speaker 2: you know, as I said, when they got to this
20:34
Speaker 2: point and it was you know, they they scored two
20:37
Speaker 2: touchdowns like they were definitely in the second half, you know,
20:41
Speaker 2: and that's where a lot of those like EPA, you know,
20:44
Speaker 2: play to play comes out the way they do, like
20:46
Speaker 2: they're definitely outperforming in Miami by that point. It was
20:49
Speaker 2: just as I said, they put themselves in too much
20:52
Speaker 2: of a hole.
20:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this last one, I'm glad you pulled this
20:56
Speaker 1: one because this is I think is probably a somewhat
20:58
Speaker 1: nondescript play for a lot of people. But just being
21:00
Speaker 1: where I am during the game, I'm looking through the
21:03
Speaker 1: camber len so I just kind of have a sense for, Okay,
21:06
Speaker 1: how much time does Julian saying have When Julian say
21:08
Speaker 1: and has time, it seems like good things are happening.
21:11
Speaker 1: And this is one where it felt like he had time.
21:14
Speaker 1: There was you know that you had one on one
21:17
Speaker 1: coverage with Cardinal tit and it was just it was
21:20
Speaker 1: like something was out of sync, and I kind of
21:22
Speaker 1: they never showed the score with the replay on the scoreboard,
21:24
Speaker 1: so I was kind of left wondering, what the heck
21:26
Speaker 1: happened on this play? So ross, what the heck happened
21:29
Speaker 1: on this play.
21:31
Speaker 2: I think there's like a lot of focus on the
21:35
Speaker 2: first half and like how Miami sort of overwhelmed their
21:40
Speaker 2: pass protection and saying in the first half. But as
21:42
Speaker 2: I said, like the second half was a very different story, right,
21:45
Speaker 2: Like they had some Miami had some critical sacks, like
21:48
Speaker 2: the one time Bo Jackson came in as a pass
21:51
Speaker 2: protector and like Miami's linebacker ran right over him. But
21:54
Speaker 2: they made up for it with that. You know, they
21:57
Speaker 2: had a fifteen yard dig to Jeremiah Smith after that,
22:00
Speaker 2: and so you know, definitely improvement from saying as well.
22:03
Speaker 2: You know, we talked a lot about some of those
22:04
Speaker 2: first half misses, but like hit some big throws in
22:07
Speaker 2: the second half. But I just think this overall is
22:12
Speaker 2: like it was such a weird sequence here, Like they
22:14
Speaker 2: had gotten to the fifty, Like, right, they'd scored the
22:16
Speaker 2: last two drives, they gotten to the fifty, They were
22:19
Speaker 2: hitting a lot of those like ball control passes as
22:21
Speaker 2: I was talking about, and then this is first and
22:24
Speaker 2: tent and they go to I, it's hard for me
22:27
Speaker 2: to even say what this. I think it's supposed to
22:29
Speaker 2: be a double move. It's like the timing of it though,
22:31
Speaker 2: it is sort of like not crisp, and like Miami's
22:34
Speaker 2: obviously they're in cover three and that's corner has a
22:37
Speaker 2: ton of cushion, and saying just basically chucks out of bounds,
22:41
Speaker 2: Like there's a hundred different ways that could have gone better,
22:45
Speaker 2: Like he could have just thrown it to the Tates
22:46
Speaker 2: back shoulder because that corner has so much cushion. But
22:50
Speaker 2: I just think overall, like strategically, it was just a
22:52
Speaker 2: weird series of plays because you run this on first down,
22:57
Speaker 2: so now you're second and tent. Then you get the
22:59
Speaker 2: damn Nis hold, but like you could have still run
23:02
Speaker 2: the football, Like there's seven and a half minutes to
23:04
Speaker 2: go in the game at this point, you're down three,
23:07
Speaker 2: and like Miami's pretty much like teen off, like they're
23:10
Speaker 2: bringing all kinds of pressure, like you can see it here,
23:12
Speaker 2: they're bringing a six man pressure. Like the next play
23:14
Speaker 2: when Daniels holds, they're bringing pressure. And then even then
23:19
Speaker 2: like you then get the the sort of like quick
23:23
Speaker 2: curls that the one where then Colonel Tate like sort
23:25
Speaker 2: of alligator arms that ball and gets hit and then
23:28
Speaker 2: suddenly you're in third and twenty and it's like, how
23:30
Speaker 2: did we get here? Like when you could have just
23:32
Speaker 2: run the football. So I guess like my sort of
23:34
Speaker 2: overall message is being like, what got them to the
23:37
Speaker 2: point where they were back in the game was like
23:39
Speaker 2: getting saying getting the ball out of his hands quick
23:42
Speaker 2: and running the football inside, and then they kind of
23:45
Speaker 2: got back away from that again, and I just think
23:47
Speaker 2: it was premature and unnecessary at that point.
23:51
Speaker 1: All right, So there you go, uh, Ohio State not
23:54
Speaker 1: all that far away from hitting a big player two
23:57
Speaker 1: and winning that game and having a peace Fiesta Bowl
24:00
Speaker 1: date with Ole Miss on deck. I don't know if
24:02
Speaker 1: that's going to make you feel better or worse about things,
24:04
Speaker 1: but there you go. You can feel however you want
24:07
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