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Reflecting On Human Nature With NIGEL BURK From CARSEX · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Nigel. I am the vocalist of car Sex.
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  Speaker 2: We are basically a five piece rock and roll outfit
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  Speaker 2: from Long Beach, California.
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic Mike, thanks for joining us today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thanks for having me. Appreciate it, my pleasure.
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  Speaker 3: So Tasix will release your thirty p Human Interest on
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  Speaker 3: Juna's sixth Brother. She's not far away now, how are
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  Speaker 3: you feeling that?
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  Speaker 4: Good?
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  Speaker 5: Good?
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  Speaker 2: We got a handful of shows lined up to kind
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  Speaker 2: of support the release. One of them on the six
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  Speaker 2: is going to be at our basically like our home
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  Speaker 2: bar here just a hop skipping to jump away and
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  Speaker 2: so that should be really cool. And we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be releasing uh music video for one of the songs
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: So pretty yeah, super stoked on everything coming out.
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  Speaker 3: Very nice us. Tell us a bit more about the
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  Speaker 3: AP from a musical point of view and what are
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  Speaker 3: you have gone forward with it?
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  Speaker 2: You know, the uh basically this one, it's it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: much like our third our third EP effort.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the band has been around for a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more than nine years now.
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  Speaker 2: This is definitely our strongest effort. I feel just out
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  Speaker 2: of the development of the band over the years and everything.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we're as as much a part of
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  Speaker 2: each other as we can be. So I feel like
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  Speaker 2: this one is really probably the first one that is
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  Speaker 2: just one, like one genuine just right from all of
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  Speaker 2: us as a unit. And yeah, super stoked on it.
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  Speaker 2: The basic idea, A lot of our a lot of
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  Speaker 2: our material goes through pretty wide variety of subjects, but
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  Speaker 2: lightly touches on politics to a certain degree, but I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't say that much. Just really like the human condition
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  Speaker 2: as a broad explanation. Sometimes it's a little difficult for
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  Speaker 2: me to explain exactly what certain songs or the idea
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  Speaker 2: of the band is about, because I really like for
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  Speaker 2: the audience to experience it for themselves. And I feel
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  Speaker 2: like our our presentation is like more up for percept
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  Speaker 2: like perception or like subjective to the to the listener,
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  Speaker 2: because it is for us as well, Like I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it means something different to all of the band
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  Speaker 2: members individually as well.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, cool short, So well, you're gonna find this
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  Speaker 3: next question a bit hard then, mate, because I want
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  Speaker 3: to run through the epage. It's only got what's got
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  Speaker 3: to four six seven tracks on it, so I want
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  Speaker 3: to run through them. One at a time, and I
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  Speaker 3: was going to get you to tell me a bit
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  Speaker 3: more about them, but it sounds like you don't really
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  Speaker 3: like doing that. So if you want to just tell us,
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  Speaker 3: tell us sort of how that song represents the band
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  Speaker 3: moving forward, I guess, and and a little bit about it.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll start with the first song, Sitting Ducks.
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  Speaker 2: Sitting Ducks, like Cricket Canvas, is a lot of like
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  Speaker 2: our our depiction of like a modern like the modern
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  Speaker 2: landscape of just humanity in general.
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  Speaker 1: I guess.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, whether it be you know, just like I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, the kind of the dark side of everything
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  Speaker 2: that is going on, whether it be that politics, inner
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  Speaker 2: struggles especially and just trying to navigate like the modern
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  Speaker 2: landscape that we face as like society in general. I
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  Speaker 2: would say that those two songs for sure are touching
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  Speaker 2: on that the most, you know, the idea or concept
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  Speaker 2: of like you know, existential crisis and just anxiety in general,
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  Speaker 2: I feel really guides this epiece. So I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 2: that it's necessarily a.
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  Speaker 1: Concept piece, but it could be viewed as that depending
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  Speaker 1: on the person. I guess.
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  Speaker 3: My Postava Canvason could just expind that then there's Beyond
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  Speaker 3: the Trees.
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  Speaker 1: Beyond the Trees is actually the only one that was
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  Speaker 1: kind of.
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  Speaker 2: My wife and I were actually on a plane back
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  Speaker 2: from Georgia visiting some family, and a lot of times
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  Speaker 2: I like to just kind of, you know, space out
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  Speaker 2: and look out the window on planes. We've been doing
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  Speaker 2: it a lot more recently in the or in the
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  Speaker 2: recent years, but I used to have quite a bit
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  Speaker 2: of flight anxiety, and one of the one of the
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  Speaker 2: times that we were coming home from Georgia, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was just kind of looking out the window at
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  Speaker 2: the at the greenery below and just started writing, because
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  Speaker 2: it typically helps me work through anxiety at points like that,
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  Speaker 2: and it just kind of like this weird idea of
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  Speaker 2: like a story of just a killer.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird because it's the only song that's really like
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  Speaker 1: a story that's made up completely in the EP, which
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  Speaker 1: was interesting for me.
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  Speaker 2: But it was like so natural a feeling as the
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  Speaker 2: time that I ended up just writing all of the
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  Speaker 2: lyrics within you know, us from taxi to being completely
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  Speaker 2: in the air, So it was you know, probably a
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  Speaker 2: matter of like ten or fifteen minutes, and I just
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  Speaker 2: wrote the lyrics to it.
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  Speaker 1: And then when I got back our drummer at the time.
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  Speaker 2: He just kind of came up with that drum beat
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  Speaker 2: and we had the rock and just driving bass and
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  Speaker 2: it was just like all super just organic, and I like, personally,
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  Speaker 2: I think that that's probably one of my favorite songs
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  Speaker 2: on the EP, just because it just it was so
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  Speaker 2: easy and just I just love the way that it sounds.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit different from the rest of it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and and kind of shows a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more of the dynamic that we can get, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I like that one a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be dyning you the story going. The next one
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  Speaker 3: called fuck This.
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  Speaker 2: I would say in short, because I've been asked a
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  Speaker 2: lot about that one. This, Uh, I would.
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  Speaker 1: Say fuck this because we we've been playing that one
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  Speaker 1: live outside of the rest of the EP for quite
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  Speaker 1: some time.
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  Speaker 2: So it was like one of the first songs that
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  Speaker 2: we really like exposed everybody to, like as far as
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  Speaker 2: the audience, and we've been playing it for like probably
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years now because the recording has been
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  Speaker 2: a long time coming, and uh, you know, generally it's
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  Speaker 2: I feel like the I feel like the title explains
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it. It's pretty it's pretty self explanatory,
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  Speaker 2: but in general, I would say, just as as simply
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  Speaker 2: as I can, it's probably just a song about like that,
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  Speaker 2: like that inner are those inner demons that can kind
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  Speaker 2: of constantly be knocking on your head and uh and
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  Speaker 2: and trying to get in and basically, uh, just that
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  Speaker 2: inner struggle of like really trying to not only recognize
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  Speaker 2: it in its entirety, but really like face it.
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  Speaker 1: And Yeah, I think that's pretty much it in a
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  Speaker 1: nutshell right for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, then we move on to Landmine, which was a single.
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  Speaker 4: I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Landmine is actually the one that we have the video
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  Speaker 2: coming out for as well. So yeah, our friend, our
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  Speaker 2: friend Chris actually shot the video and it was really cool.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was in this kind of like warehouseye area,
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  Speaker 2: with a bunch of core background lights and everything. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really excited about the way that that turned out because
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  Speaker 2: his cinematography basically he just filmed us doing like a
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  Speaker 2: live thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the energy was really good.
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  Speaker 2: And like he's a friend of ours, he's shot a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of our photos before, and we've known him for years,
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  Speaker 2: and I feel like he was really able to like
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  Speaker 2: capture the essence of the band live which is one
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  Speaker 2: of our stronger points for the most part, I think.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that one, as far as what it's about
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  Speaker 2: is kind of ah.
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  Speaker 6: It's it's a it's almost like a part two to
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  Speaker 6: a song on our last ep, Your Lesson, and uh,
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  Speaker 6: basically it's in short, kind of about a complete like
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  Speaker 6: mind meld.
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  Speaker 2: A friend of mine and I were like dosed unintentionally
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  Speaker 2: with like, uh what should have been a lethal amount
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  Speaker 2: of LSD like years ago, and it's kept it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of it kind of touches on the nightmare the nightmare
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  Speaker 2: healthscape that ended up ensuing and we were we ended
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  Speaker 2: up being like hospitalized and everything, and it was like
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  Speaker 2: a long process. So like for me, it was very introspective,
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  Speaker 2: I would expect the And that's that's one of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons why, for instance, like I don't really like to
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  Speaker 2: particularly say like like specifically like because there's little bits
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  Speaker 2: and pieces of everything, right, Yeah, like like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of it is about like it was inspired by that
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  Speaker 2: experience for me, but I feel like it could be
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  Speaker 2: a completely different understanding for somebody else because that is
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  Speaker 2: a unique experience or fairly unique, I would imagine, so,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, for me, that's yeah, that's that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: where that one was stem and the landmine is basically
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  Speaker 2: the ship hitting the fan.
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  Speaker 3: He ended up catching up with the guy Dice did
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  Speaker 3: break his.
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  Speaker 1: Legs, No, no, unfortunately it was it was.
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  Speaker 2: A friend actually a friend that we uh played music
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  Speaker 2: with also, and he had no idea that he had
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  Speaker 2: done it. He had, Yeah, so it was it was
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  Speaker 2: just a giant ship show. Yeah, really really weird, a
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  Speaker 2: really weird experience to say the least.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, now, I don't want you to
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  Speaker 3: tell me what this stands for, because I reckon that'd
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  Speaker 3: be part of the fun of it.
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  Speaker 2: But what's d k C about? So I will tell
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  Speaker 2: you what it stands for? Dead Kids Club? The concept
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  Speaker 2: was basically the concept really was I had I had
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  Speaker 2: wrote like most of the lyrics, and and Jeremy the
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  Speaker 2: bassist and I kind of got together and we wanted
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  Speaker 2: to come up with this concept of bringing like the
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  Speaker 2: bringing the tragedy, like the true fucking tragedy that is, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, school shootings and the regular like just just
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  Speaker 2: the complacency of everybody's kind of acceptance of it now
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  Speaker 2: and everything that follows with it. We thought that it
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  Speaker 2: would be an intrying idea to kind of write the
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  Speaker 2: song from like a dad who is whose kid was
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  Speaker 2: killed in a school shooting's perspective, just you know, I
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  Speaker 2: had not specifically with with school shootings, but I lost
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  Speaker 2: basically my second mother to a to a mass shooting
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  Speaker 2: at a salon in twenty twelve. So like for me,
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  Speaker 2: any any kind of area like that is sensitive and
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  Speaker 2: I feel like.
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  Speaker 1: Should be should be talked about and.
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  Speaker 2: As uncomfortable as it is, you know, it should it
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  Speaker 2: should be something that you know, is not just like
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  Speaker 2: just a oh, there's a news clip again. You know,
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  Speaker 2: let's let's kind of talk about like the deeper, a
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  Speaker 2: deeper understanding of this and like the emotional more of
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  Speaker 2: the emotional part of it, because I feel like that's
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  Speaker 2: really important and gets glanced over quite a bit now
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  Speaker 2: because everybody's just kind of there's a numbness to.
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  Speaker 1: It now, you know. So, yeah, that's what helped.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna side track. I'm gonna side track for
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  Speaker 3: a little bit because you've moved over a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: But is that a monkey playing guitar in the background?
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  Speaker 3: My contact my eyes off it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's the Yeah, that's mister that's that's
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  Speaker 2: mister monkey.
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  Speaker 1: My sister actually made that guitar. That's so cool. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a coloss of Yeah, she gave that to me
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  Speaker 1: as a gift years ago. I love that one.
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  Speaker 3: You just kept sort of creeping over a little bit
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  Speaker 3: and it sort of came more and more into you
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, fuck guitar. So back to the
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  Speaker 3: eping Stella. It's a final song.
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  Speaker 1: Cool, Oh yeah, Stella, let's see Stella.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably if if if Beyond the Trees is not
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  Speaker 2: my favorite, that that probably is. I feel like that's
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  Speaker 2: just like in a good, like all encompassing kind of
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  Speaker 2: coming to terms with I feel like it's a good
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  Speaker 2: story ender and that's kind of why we, you know,
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  Speaker 2: placed it where we did. But yeah, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's the most hopeful track I you know,
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  Speaker 2: like some sort of crescendo.
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  Speaker 1: To an end.
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  Speaker 2: In in the sense that not necessarily like there is
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  Speaker 2: there is an open ending still, right, but it's like
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  Speaker 2: there's things that have been looked at and faced in
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  Speaker 2: ways that they haven't been before, and there's like not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily like a reckoning, but I there's some sort of.
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  Speaker 1: Some sort of piece made.
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  Speaker 2: With with everything that has gone on, or I guess
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily an ENLiGHT meant, but a a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of closure to some darkness and a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: you know, light at the end of the tunnel, for
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  Speaker 2: lack of a better description.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, nice. Now, I don't know too much
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  Speaker 3: about you guys, but I've listened to AP. You sound
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  Speaker 3: like it'd be a lot of fun lives. I run
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  Speaker 3: a sort of typical classics liveshire.
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  Speaker 1: Typically we do.
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  Speaker 2: I think that our strongest point is our live performance
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  Speaker 2: outside of I used to say that all the time,
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  Speaker 2: but after we made this record.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. Now, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we're coming into.
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  Speaker 2: Our own like fully, but yeah, we we have a
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  Speaker 2: great time playing live. You know. It's it's basically like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes controlled chaos, sometimes not controlled chaos, but it's.
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  Speaker 1: Really easy for us. I mean, we've all been together
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  Speaker 1: for so long.
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  Speaker 2: We always talk about how like being in a bad
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  Speaker 2: is like being in a relationship with four other dudes.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like we've been through so much in like
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  Speaker 2: almost absolute almost a decade, that it's like we are
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  Speaker 2: so comfortable with each other and in our atmosphere that
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  Speaker 2: that I feel like we can lose ourselves, like entirely
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  Speaker 2: together and individually like live, which is a great feeling.
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  Speaker 2: Even if we're having a shitty show playing to no one,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's still it's still a great
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  Speaker 2: experience for us.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I just get in my own little world.
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  Speaker 3: So very Caroll, very cool. You've got a couple of
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  Speaker 3: shows coming up too. I'm going to start with a
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  Speaker 3: June to sixth one because this might be out in
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  Speaker 3: time for the other one. But you've got the one
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  Speaker 3: that June to six at the Vine in Long Beach
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  Speaker 3: for you launch, and then you've got supply and demand
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  Speaker 3: on September sixth, So tell us a bit about those shows.
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  Speaker 2: So those ones are both long each our hometown. We
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  Speaker 2: love those places. We're good friends with basically everybody there.
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  Speaker 2: We have a really like I've always been really proud
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  Speaker 2: and like happy with our like our communities, like music
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  Speaker 2: scene and the support that everybody gets. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of rare to come by as far as
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  Speaker 2: the diversity and like the general togetherness of the community
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  Speaker 2: in general. So we like, I feel really I feel
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  Speaker 2: really privileged to be a part of like a scene
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  Speaker 2: or like a you know, just a rock and roll
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  Speaker 2: community that's that struck because it's something to be adored.
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  Speaker 2: So we we always think it's really important to still
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  Speaker 2: play a lot in Long Beach. Those those two are
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  Speaker 2: staples for us. So we thought that Vine would be
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  Speaker 2: perfect just to just to put put out.
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  Speaker 1: The new guy and you know it's it's more intimate,
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  Speaker 1: which we really like.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So yeah, we're really looking for at both those shows.
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  Speaker 2: We are playing in the desert at Palmdale at the
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  Speaker 2: Transplant Brewery tomorrow with our friends French Mouth from La
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  Speaker 2: so that one should be really good. And then I
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  Speaker 2: think that we have our drummer. Our drummer is actually
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  Speaker 2: getting surgery, I think at the beginning of August, so
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  Speaker 2: we're going to take a little bit of time off
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  Speaker 2: during that, like so he can recover obviously.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we're really looking forward to all the upcoming
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  Speaker 1: ones and.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully planning like a small tour come either you know,
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  Speaker 2: end of August or beginning of September.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of fault type situation.
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  Speaker 3: Very cool, but in the maintime, Human Interest is out
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  Speaker 3: on June to sixth, so why could people get a
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  Speaker 3: hold of a copy or keep up tonight with the band.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, basically just a car Sex LBC dot com is
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  Speaker 1: our website. We're on like every social uh you know
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  Speaker 1: under car Sex or car Sex lb YouTube, all of
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  Speaker 1: all of the mainstreaming uh you know Spotify and Apple
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  Speaker 1: Music all that, all that, all that jazz and uh
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  Speaker 1: yeah we have uh we have much available to shows,
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  Speaker 1: CS and stuff, you know. But yeah, wherever you can,
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  Speaker 1: wherever you can get your mainstream streaming type situation.
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  Speaker 5: You know, just.
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  Speaker 7: Say a lot food.
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  Speaker 8: It's just a little pass just because they had to freeze.
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  Speaker 4: He was on the phone, but tells Freece do it.
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  Speaker 7: So so I'm just saying, maybe.
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  Speaker 4: They's some faith. It's justice said maybe kill the kidney.
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  Speaker 4: So to just this out the action.
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  Speaker 7: Weekly become bid, let No let Mine.
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  Speaker 4: Go, wris for me A play for say chance, play.
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  Speaker 7: To know it.
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  Speaker 4: That's episode say you say I change So this says
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  Speaker 4: it's cassious for you tram.
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  Speaker 7: Miss the shop.
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  Speaker 4: I ever say that, mister.
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  Speaker 7: Slow who.
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  Speaker 8: Says this?
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  Speaker 7: The man whose w