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Maduro is about BRICS, not just oil and narcotics · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Coast to coast and around the world from the America Out Loud Talk Radio Studios.
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  If he says he's serious about something, he means it.
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  It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  And we are back here on the first full week of 2026 on The Truth Be Told.
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  I'm Booker Scott, being joined as always on Mondays by Matt Palumbo.
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  He is uh, well, you can see him every Monday night at 6 30 on Newsmax with Carl Higby.
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  He's an author.
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  He's written 11 books, and he joins us every Monday.
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  I call him Mondays with Matt.
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  And we have a lot to talk about because a lot happened over the weekend.
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  As fast as 2025 ended, the news cycle is even faster than that.
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  We go to bed Friday night, we wake up Saturday morning and we hear of what happened in Venezuela, and then the political fallout begins.
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  Matt, what do you make of all of it?
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  What a week.
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  I uh when I woke up to the notification of Maduro being in custody, I for some reason my first thought was that Fox News got hacked or something, or there's something my eyes weren't working.
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  I just thought, wait, how did that happen that fast?
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  Yeah.
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  Because we knew something was on the horizon.
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  I remember, you know, we had some um uh ships circling Venezuela, and Trump was asked why are they there?
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  And he his response was hilarious.
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  He says, Well, they have to be parked somewhere, and it was you know, it was pretty clear he was teasing what was gonna happen next.
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  Uh, Maduro seemed to sort of be panicking.
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  Um I don't know, it seemed like he himself was aware the jig was up, the doors were closing in, and there's nothing they could do to fight off America.
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  I mean, our military is an order of magnitude larger than their entire economy by annual spending.
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  There was no way they could ever stop an invasion.
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  And there has been some talk that this was a negotiated capture that Maduro basically gave up on the condition that you have to make it look like you invaded and came and got me because really I've not heard that.
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  I haven't even heard that.
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  I mean, it's a theory that's been floated, so it's it it's just I'm not saying it as if it's true.
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  I'm just saying that's one theory being floated is that he may have even given himself up because they didn't fight at all to try to save the guy.
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  He I mean, it's crazy to think.
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  Like if I was gonna explain to you two weeks ago how we were gonna get Maduro, and I said, Well, we're gonna go bomb um Chavez's grave, and then we're gonna go to his house and pick him up.
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  You'd think I was on drugs, and I probably would think I was as well, but that's what happened.
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  So I, you know, that it's an interesting theory, but the regardless, it was uh a complete success.
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  We didn't lose a single person, there was no real danger.
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  Uh and then we also got to, as I said, nuke uh Chavez's too, which was just sort of for the hell of those.
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  I thought was awesome.
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  It was.
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  And let's go to the press conference.
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  Let's hear from President Donald Trump and what he had to say.
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  This was the beginning of the press conference that took place Saturday.
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  At my direction, the United States Armed Forces conducted an extraordinary military operation in the Capitol of Venezuela.
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  Overwhelming American military power, air, land and sea was used to launch a spectacular assault.
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  And it was a assault like people have not seen since World War II.
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  It was a force against a heavily fortified military fortress in the heart of Caracas to bring out law dictator Nicholas Maduro to justice.
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  This was one of the most stunning effective and powerful displays of American military might and competence in American history.
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  One thing about what happens after these things is the political fallout.
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  As soon as it started, you have people on the left saying we shouldn't have done it.
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  It is illegal what Trump did.
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  He needs congressional power to do these things, which he doesn't.
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  Noriega is very similar to what happened here over the weekend with Maduro.
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  So he doesn't need that really.
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  And don't forget that uh Maduro's cartel has been designated as a terrorist organization.
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  So that gives Trump as the executive branch a lot of leeway to do what he did.
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  But that's what the left is saying.
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  The right, some people on the right are saying things similar, like Rand Paul, Thomas Massey, the normal people that would say those things.
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  But we sometimes forget how great the American military is.
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  And he mentioned there how fortified Caracas is, and we're going to get to that in the second segment of this hour because I want to be able in this hour to try to tie everything together because this is much more than oil and narcotics.
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  And you need to understand that.
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  And we'll tie all that together here coming up in the second segment.
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  But before we get to that, what do you make there of Donald Trump saying this is the greatest thing in American military history since World War II?
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  And I it wasn't just a few months ago that we bombed Iran in another spectacular show of American might on that mission.
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  I mean, it's definitely up there.
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  The the precision was surgical.
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  And you know, with the Iran strike, there was a lot of people predicting World War III.
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  And I don't think we went that far, but I I remember at least I think I'm remember correctly that I, you know, I admitted I initially thought this could backfire and this could lead to something unforeseen.
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  And uh turns out it didn't at all.
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  And I realize that me and I think a lot of people are still kind of haunted by the endless war and by endless, I mean, you know, two decades in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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  But you know, I I think it would make sense to say at this point the reason those were endless wars was because the people in charge wanted them to be.
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  I mean, we won the war in Afghanistan in a week.
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  Um you know, there was no reason for us to be in there that long.
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  Um the the issues we created in Iraq were very easily foreseeable, to the point you have to wonder if they were allowed to happen in the first place just to justify staying there for longer.
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  And you know, listen, the difference with Trump is he is against forever warriors, he's generally against foreign entanglements, and whenever he has engaged internationally, it's been in a way where there's not boots on the ground, it's done very precisely, and there's no second-order effects.
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  I mean, the consequence of destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities was that they couldn't retaliate.
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  Um, the consequences of this are uh I mean, I I obviously can't see the future, but I don't see how you can get worse than a communist dictatorship.
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  No, it can't.
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  And I think what the American military did was incredible.
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  Over 150 airplanes and helicopters.
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  You had the Navy, the Marines, the Air Force, the the Space Force was even involved with uh satellites uh looking down on all the things that were happening in the street, and something else that I heard that is incredible is that for months they have been practicing this.
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  They actually built the compound and the whole thing for two or three months they have been practicing doing this mission.
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  They had to wait for the perfect time weather-wise to be able to pull this off, and then they did.
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  Let's go to Secretary of War, Secretary of Defense.
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  Here's Pete Hegzeth in his comments here on Saturday.
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  Nicholas Maduro had his chance.
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  Just like Iran had their chance.
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  Until they didn't, and until he didn't.
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  Hefed around, and he found out.
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  He certainly did.
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  And now he sits in the process.
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  Now he sits in a jail, which ironically is in the backyard of Chuck Schumer, AOC, and Hakeem Jeffries.
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  I don't think it could get any better.
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  I want to comment on that.
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  I think that was in on purpose because I my first thought was why not do it in Florida.
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  Like that to me would be the most obvious.
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  I'm wondering if it's because Mimdami's base loves that you know, loves um Maduro and is gonna claim he's a political prisoner, and there's nothing Mamdame can do about it.
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  So now he's basically saddled with an albatross uh that's probably gonna be in the city that he runs, and there's nothing he can do about it.
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  I I don't know if that's the reason he did it, but it it could be something of a troll in that regard, which would be amusing.
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  Well, if you look back to the indictment, the indictment took place in 2020.
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  So that was in that was in the Southern District of New York is where that started.
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  I have seen people make that argument that uh they should have done it somewhere else.
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  He's not gonna be prosecuted in the Southern District of New York because of their history.
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  Yet the entire investigation was done years ago there in the Southern District of New York.
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  So instead of changing a venue and starting another investigation or having to communicate back and forth, they just went there with that indictment that was done five years ago.
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  Let's go to Mark.
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  Yeah, go ahead.
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  I do like that we charged him with uh machine gun possession.
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  I thought it was funny they just threw that in there like the most pro-gun country in the world.
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  It's like, oh, and also uh we got a gun offense on you.
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  Did you see Maduro in his jammies in the play?
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  I saw nice okay.
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  Let's go to Marco Rubio on why.
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  Why is this important?
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  Just a president of action.
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  Like I don't understand yet how they haven't figured this out.
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  And now, if you don't know, now you know.
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  Because this is the way it's gonna play out, and I think people need to understand that this is not a president that just talks and does letters and press conferences, and you know, if he says he's serious about something, he means it.
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  And and this is something that was a direct threat to the national interest of the United States, and the president addressed it.
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  A direct interest of the national security of the United States is what Marco Rubio says.
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  This is what we're gonna get into in the second segment of this hour.
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  But I thought Marco Rubio did a great job in the press conference.
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  To me, it looked like Donald Trump was pretty tired, and I'd imagine that he probably did not sleep all night when he did that uh press conference because the attack took place, I believe what was it, two AM Eastern time.
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  So in our
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  Or I think it was 1 a.m.
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  R time to p.m.
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  there or two AM there's Yeah.
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  Either way, very early.
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  Yeah, and you see the left and what they are talking about on this, that it's illegal and they can't uh go to another country and kidnap.
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  You see that word on the left.
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  Uh they're saying kidnapping.
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  Yeah.
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  It's not forget the fact that he's killed hundreds of thousands of Americans and he is a communist dictator.
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  And of course, really reality is we shouldn't be going in and changing leadership.
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  And I don't think Donald Trump wants regime change.
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  And I have seen the argument, and I've had people say, why don't you let the people do it?
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  Well, the people have been killed.
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  There have been eight to nine million people that have been dispersed around the world as a result of this regime and Hugo Chavez before them.
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  Let's go back to one more clip from uh Pete Heggseth here, Secretary of War.
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  And the president said the blockade continues, no oil going in and out, no drug boats allowed to traffic in the Caribbean or the East PAC.
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  So we're still poised there.
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  This was a law enforcement exercise.
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  It was the Department of War in support of the Department of Justice pulling out an indicted person who ultimately will face just uh justice.
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  And Marco was clear there that this is not something you notify Congress about uh beforehand, but were there to be more or or extensions to this, of course we'll keep Congress involved.
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  There are partners, uh, and we would do so.
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  And that's been a big part of the conversation as well.
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  Congress should have known beforehand, and I have a sound clip from Tom Cotton that says it it would have been leaked.
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  It's exactly right.
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  You can't do that with this type of mission.
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  Evidently the window was about 15 days that they had been sitting there waiting for the weather to be right.
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  And I want to say, too, the whole international law, we are the international law.
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  Because if like no one who else is actually capable of enforcing it, we're really the only country that would be.
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  So therefore we are the international law.
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  And it's a good precedent.
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  And I I do like that he threw it, they threw in the random charge like machine gun thing, not just because it's funny, but because you know, we're having stats with Mexico's president with Colombia's president uh over drugs, and it does send a message that I mean I'm advocating for uh going for them next, but certainly there's gotta be a little bit of fear in their hearts that maybe they're next, and maybe in the negotiating table, they're gonna change their tune a little bit.
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  Well, Donald Trump in the press count conference on Saturday, he told the president of Colombia, you better watch your ass.
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  And that's a quote.
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  I don't know if you saw that, but he he told that uh president, watch your ass because uh we may come for you.
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  Keep the drugs out of America is what he's talking about.
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  And if you mess around, you're gonna find out.
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  Here's Tom Cotton talking about that very thing about why Congress cannot be informed on this type of mission.
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  Not in advance, and that's probably one reason why it didn't leak over these four days, as they are waiting for the right weather.
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  But let me let me just make an analogy here.
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  Again, Congress isn't notified when the FBI is going to arrest a drug trafficker or a cyber criminal here in the United States, nor can should Congress be notified when the executive branch is executing arrests on indicted persons.
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  And that's really what you can make the analogy to here.
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  In fact, the FBI was part of this operation, part of the arrest of Maduro and his wife who were indicted here in the United States.
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  So Congress doesn't need to be notified every time the executive branch is making an arrest, and that's exactly what happened this morning in Venezuela.
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  And now Maduro is going to come to the United States and he's going to face justice.
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  Those comments were made Saturday morning on Fox News with Senator Tom Cotton from Arkansas.
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  And he's right, you can't inform Congress because those loudmouths are going to tell everyone, including uh the defense there in Caracas or Venezuela or wherever it may be next.
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  Uh so you can't do that.
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  And I I think this again, I wanted to focus on this first segment here, really on the military and what a great job they did following up with Iran because they did.
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  And to me, when I look at what has happened here in Venezuela over the weekend, they have hope now that they have not had in 30 years.
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  Uh, they have hope for prosperity, for freedom, for democracy, and they just haven't lived that way.
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  As I mentioned earlier, eight to nine million people have been dispersed since I think 2014.
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  A lot of the migration that we have in America is a result of that.
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  770,000 Venezuelans live in America.
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  A lot of them want to go back home.
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  Now maybe they can.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, the uh it's good you say that there's some fake news online that we were gonna be taking in refugees uh from Venezuela following this, which would would make no sense.
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  Like your country's gonna get a lot better now, so it's taking with our country.
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  No, so the the DHS dispelled some of those reports, which were some there's a lot of accounts on X that pretend to be real news sites and look legit but are just made-up publications that share fake news in hopes that it goes viral and it often does.
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  So it was like a leading report or something, I think was the name of it, but the DHS corrected them and said, um, well, no, we slashed refugee admissions to 7500 a year, most of which are going to be from South Africa.
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  Um the Afrikaners, wait till the Africans.
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  And they they made the point, but we also took away special uh special asylum status from 500,000 refugees for Venezuela who can now go home.
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  So they're saying the opposite that no, there's half a million are actually gonna be leaving.
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  Well, I have also seen that the concern of a lot of the governments around Venezuela in that part is the migration.
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  They also think that people may leave Venezuela because of a quote war, unquote.
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  There's not gonna be a war.
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  And I know you and I had previously talked about there probably won't be boots on the ground.
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  And while we did with the Delta Force, which by the way, they did an incredible job.
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  Again, they had been practicing for months at a compound that they built here in the United States to replicate what they were going to do.
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  So there were some boots on the ground for maybe 20 or 30 minutes, and that was it.
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  But there's no gonna not gonna be any prolonged war, and that's what a lot of the governments around Venezuela are worried about because they've been dealing with migration from that country for well over a decade because of what happened in that country.
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  Uh let's go to this one sound piece here from Rachel Maddow, kind of to give you the idea of what the left is saying after what happened in Venezuela with Maduro over the weekend.
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  Actually, I'm sorry, wrong clip, though.
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  Yeah, that's the party in Caracas.
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  I wanted to play that for everybody so they could hear that even though the Democrats are saying what they're saying, the people around the world are celebrating in the streets.
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  We have it here in America in Manhattan.
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  We had it in Mar-a-Lago in Florida and Miami, and we have it all over the place.
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  That was Caracas, but I have sound from other places as well.
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  Uh, in Madrid, what about Madrid?
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  They're celebrating there.
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  The Democrats aren't, though.
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  Here is Madrid.
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  And they are shouting USA in Madrid.
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  And for some reason, the Democrats are not seeing that.
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  But now let me get to Rachel Madow and Mad Cal.
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  And here's what her take on this was.
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  In in in your heart of hearts, when you when you think about what the United States just did, I think there are very few Americans right now who have any idea why the United States did this.
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  Um if this was about drug trafficking, then why did President Trump just pardon the former president of Honduras who was convicted of sending hundreds of tons of drugs into the United States?
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  If this was about something about the illegitimacy of Maduro's election, well, that's something that the U.S.
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  is, you know, decrying any other country policing.
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  We just sanctioned Brazil for having tried to protect itself from a coup by its former president J.L.
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  Bolsonaro.
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  I mean, if it's about gangs, we had the president of El Salvador, who is believed by U.S.
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  law enforcement to be very linked with the notorious gang MS-13, which has caused incredible damage in the hemisphere, including in the United States.
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  He's invited into the Oval Office, and the president says that he's looking forward to sending homegrown Americans to uh that president's essentially, you know, jungle concentration camps.
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  So uh all of the purported explanations for what's happened here, um don't stand up to logical scrutiny.
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  The president has never articulated a coherent rationale for having done this.
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  Um this seems like Marco Rubio's dream, not Donald Trump's dream.
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  Um so I'll be very interested to hear um what the president is able to piece together in terms of an articulable rationale for having done this.
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  I would tell her to read the national security strategy report that was released in November, and maybe she would have a better idea of why we did what we did.
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  We're gonna get into that in the second segment here, coming up in just a few minutes.
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  What do you make of Rachel Maddow there?
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  She wasn't completely unhinged.
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  She asked reasonable questions from their perspective, especially about the Honduran president that Donald Trump pardoned on December 8th.
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  Well, even if you were to you accept her argument and say, you know what, Trump did some things that are contradictory, it doesn't change the fact that this is a good thing.
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  What whatever one, you know, even if you were to say uh well, the the individual reason you choose doesn't really matter because there's a thousand reasons why it's a good thing.
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  And if you're a Venezuelan, you're celebrating this.
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  Do you really care if it's over oil or if it's over XY and Z reason, or are you just glad the guy is gone?
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  No one's in the street going, thank God he's gone.
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  Oil prices are gonna go down 10%, and the market will be even more stable.
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  No one cares about that.
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  And it was dumb when she brought
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  Brought up uh El Salvador's president and claiming he's linked to MS 13.
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  If he's linked to MS13, he has a relationship apparently where he can tell them please stop killing people.
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  And then not only will they stop killing people, the other gang, 18th Street that is that was responsible for I guess half the other murders, for some reason also decided at the same time to stop killing people.
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  So that just makes no sense at all.
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  In fact, just I saw this a few hours ago.
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  Last year in El Salvador, they had a murder rate of something like one for every hundred thousand people, which is lower than most of Europe.
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  It's significantly lower than has ever been in the United States history.
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  They had, I think it was 70 murders the entire year.
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  In 2015, they had 23 murders per day.
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  So whatever he's doing there is working, and I significantly doubt he's buddies with the gangs that were responsible for the case.
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  Yeah, we could use him.
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  That was let's get him to go to Chicago.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And Donald Trump had a response when he was asked the question during the press conference about the Honduran president that he did give a pardon to on December 8th.
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  Here was his response.
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  The man that I party was if you could equate it to us, he was treated like the Biden administration treated a man named Trump.
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  That didn't work out too well for them.
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  This was a man who was persecuted very unfairly.
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  He was the head of the country.
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  He was persecuted very unfairly.
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  And there are a number of them.
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  And we felt that it was a very unfair situation that happened to him.
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  He's also a party member of the man who won.
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  So obviously the people liked what I did.
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  And one of the reasons that was done is because of the fact that the party in power felt very strongly that that man was treated very badly.
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  I studied it very quickly, and then I studied it in great detail.
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  I went to a lot of the people standing behind me, and they felt that that man was persecuted and treated very badly.
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  That's why I gave him a pardon.
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  A plausible explanation, I believe, from the president of the United States and a response to that question, one that Rachel Maddow brought up there.
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  Do you have any comment on that?
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  I know that Nick Stanis.
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  I mean, I would say, in addition to the Epstein thing, I think some of Trump's pardons are a fair criticism.
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  He has pardoned some people where I don't think he really reviewed it that well.
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  I think someone he knows suggested it and he signed off on it.
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  Like, for instance, there was one guy he pardoned that was convicted of running a pyramid scheme and went back and started another pyramid scheme and is now in arrested again and going back to jail.
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  So like there have been some bad partners, but we're talking in the like maybe 10 to 20 category, not like Biden, where he's like, all right, thousands of murderers, time to go free.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, it's still better than Biden, but it's legit criticism.
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  Um, not really in the context of what Mata was saying, but that's just it did come to mind.
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  Yeah, well, let's get into the why on all of this.
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  We're gonna do that coming up right after the break.
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• 25:51
  I am Bookerscout alongside Matt Palumbo here.
• 25:54
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• 26:01
  Well, let's get into the why.
• 26:03
  Why are we doing this?
• 26:05
  Because if you listen to AOC, she says, well, it's about if it's about drugs, or if it's about regime change.
• 26:11
  And I don't know that either one of those things is the real reason why we are doing this.
• 26:16
  What do you think?
• 26:17
  What's your take on it?
• 26:18
  Well, there are certain people that are citing very good reasons as if they're bad reasons, like Thomas Nasse saying this is just about uh gas prices and regime change.
• 26:29
  And I'm thinking, okay, cool.
• 26:31
  I it's for lower gas prices, and we don't have a climate.
• 26:34
  What's the problem with that, right?
• 26:35
  Yeah, I'm like, listen, Venezuela was once the richest country in Latin America and the fourth richest country in the world.
• 26:42
  And if we're gonna have an ally in Latin America, why not let I mean Venezuela should if you you know, if we if it goes back to the economic system it had before communism, it still has the same natural resources and will do a much better job of utilizing them.
• 26:56
  They could very well become the richest country in Latin America, and they'd be a pretty good ally to have.
• 27:01
  So I think, you know, in terms of long-term growth, that's a good thing.
• 27:05
  And you know, generally speaking, a lot of our foreign interventions haven't been America first, but it you know, is having lower oil prices America first, yes.
• 27:15
  Uh, Venezuela has stolen tens of billions of dollars of our assets by nationalizing them, is showing that that's something we're not gonna put up with and re-seasoning them America first.
• 27:25
  Well, yes.
• 27:26
  Uh and you know, we're there's gonna be Americans are probably gonna be able to uh invest in Venezuela and benefit from that.
• 27:32
  Um, our oil companies are not not like uh, you know, I put them first or anything, but they're gonna be able to make money from this, they're gonna be paying more in taxes, so there are gonna be benefits um you know to us as well as the Venezuelan people, um, that are, I would say, in the America first category.
• 27:48
  Um, and then drugs is the big one, and it's gonna be a ripple effect.
• 27:52
  You know, try as we were talking earlier about Colombia, that's where most of the world's cocaine is coming from.
• 27:57
  Um, I think maybe uh the president there was gonna get a wake-up call, but we're losing 60,000 people a year from drugs.
• 28:05
  And if it was you know, I can't remember who it was.
• 28:10
  I think it was the CEO of Palantir, um, not someone I ever thought in quote, but he's like, listen, if we were losing 60,000 uh, you know, Ivy League graduates a year, don't you think the elites would care about it?
• 28:21
  Like it wasn't people in rural America who they don't care about uh or pay any attention to, like this would be the number one issue for them.
• 28:28
  So maybe let's not be hypocrites about this and actually take this seriously.
• 28:32
  He's a socialist, so it you know, that's the relevance in him in making that observation.
• 28:36
  But yeah, that's a pretty big deal.
• 28:38
  It's far more than we've lost in any war in the past uh couple of decades.
• 28:42
  And uh that alone is uh total that alone justifies um doing this.
• 28:47
  So my two reasons, honestly, are drugs and oil.
• 28:51
  I think you have some others beyond that, but personally, those are actually my two top reasons for it.
• 28:55
  Well, when it comes to oil, you know, Trump said on Saturday, we're going to take it over, we're gonna go back, we invested in it.
• 29:02
  And when he says we, because I've had this question, why are we going to get into the oil business?
• 29:07
  We're not.
• 29:07
  When Trump says we, he's talking about American oil companies, they're going to do it.
• 29:12
  Well, Chevron is already there, and uh, I think the expectations of lower gas prices because of this, it's gonna take a very long time, and then you really have to be careful too, because you can get to a point on a barrel of oil to be beyond the point of actually making gas cheaper.
• 29:30
  And from what I understand, about $50 a barrel is it.
• 29:34
  We're sitting there between 55 and 60 right now.
• 29:36
  So we're gonna have a percent or two on the Yeah, yeah.
• 29:39
  It's so it's if it comes to gas prices, it's gonna be a very long time.
• 29:43
  So I don't believe Thomas Massey had knows what he's talking about when it comes to that.
• 29:47
  In fact, I don't think Thomas Massey knows what he's talking about with regard to a lot of things.
• 29:52
  But let's listen to um Maria Karina Martada.
• 29:56
  She just recently won the Nobel Peace Prize, she's from Venezuela.
• 30:00
  Venezuela.
• 30:00
  She is the opposition leader to Maduro.
• 30:03
  Listen to what she says is has been going on in this country of Venezuela.
• 30:07
  People talk about invasion in Venezuela and the threat of an invasion in Venezuela.
• 30:12
  And I answered, Venezuela was has to be already invaded.
• 30:16
  We have the Russian agents.
• 30:17
  We have the Iranian agents.
• 30:19
  We have terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas operating freely in accordance with the regime.
• 30:26
  We have the Colombian guerrilla, the drug cartels that have taken over 60% of our populations.
• 30:32
  And not only involving drug trafficking, but in human trafficking in networks of prostitution.
• 30:38
  So this has turned Venezuela into the criminal hub of the Americas.
• 30:43
  And what sustained the regime is a very powerful and funded, strongly funded repression system.
• 30:51
  Where does that funds come from?
• 30:54
  Well, from drug trafficking, from the black market of oil, from arms trafficking for human trafficking.
• 31:00
  We need to cut those flows.
• 31:29
  Why did we stop using the Monroe Doctrine?
• 31:32
  Well, here's what it says on page 15 of this report.
• 31:36
  It said, after years of neglect, the United States will reassert and enforce the Monroe Doctrine to restore American prominence in the Western Hemisphere and to protect our homeland and our access to key geographies throughout the region.
• 31:54
  That is what this is all about.
• 31:56
  You have China there that is supplying weapons to Venezuela.
• 31:59
  They have an incredible defense system that failed.
• 32:03
  According to them, it was incredible, but I have a little bit on that too.
• 32:06
  If we have time, I'll get into that.
• 32:08
  It did not work for them.
• 32:10
  We saw what happened over the weekend, and now China looks like a failure in their technology that was supposed to prevent this from happening.
• 32:18
  So China is dug in.
• 32:20
  Russia is dug in.
• 32:22
  Where does Cuba get their oil?
• 32:24
  500 miles away.
• 32:30
  I think Cuba could be next to topple.
• 32:33
  If we choke the oil going to Cuba, which they only get it from Venezuela right now, where else are they going to get it from?
• 32:40
  There they have no economy.
• 32:42
  Who is going to help them?
• 32:44
  So everything that Donald Trump is doing here is driving a wedge between our real adversaries, China and Russia and Iran, because Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas is there.
• 32:55
  They're both there in Venezuela.
• 32:58
  That's what this is about.
• 32:59
  It's not drugs, it's it's not narcotics, it's not Maduro or regime change.
• 33:05
  Regime, the regime in Maduro and Julio Shag or Hugo Chavez before him, they have allowed this to happen in their country, and the people have suffered as a result of it.
• 33:17
  Who buys 78% of the oil from Venezuela?
• 33:21
  China.
• 33:22
  Now, if we, the American oil companies control that, we also have control over that.
• 33:29
  And that, I believe, Matt, is what this is all about.
• 33:32
  Uh that's probably the main goal, yes.
• 33:35
  But they can't say that, can they?
• 33:48
  Right.
• 33:49
  Well, let's go to a sound clip.
• 33:50
  Here's Marco Rubio.
• 33:52
  He's talking about the Western hemisphere.
• 33:54
  This was Sunday on Face the Nation.
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  Need to take over the Venezuelan oil industry.
• 33:59
  Well, we don't need to.
• 34:00
  First of all, let me go back up.
• 34:02
  We don't need Venezuela's oil.
• 34:03
  We have plenty of oil in the United States.
• 34:05
  What we're not going to allow is for the oil industry in Venezuela to be controlled by adversaries of the United States.
• 34:11
  You have to understand.
• 34:12
  Why does China need their oil?
• 34:13
  Why does Russia need their oil?
• 34:15
  Why does Iran need their oil?
• 34:17
  They're not even in this continent.
• 34:18
  This is the Western Hemisphere.
• 34:19
  This is where we live, and we're not going to allow the Western hemisphere to be a base of operation for adversaries' competitors and rivals of the United States.
• 34:27
  We also want to see that oil and the proceeds from it.
• 34:30
  Hold on.
• 34:31
  We want to see the oil proceeds of that country benefit the people of Venezuela.
• 34:34
  Why have eight million people left Venezuela?
• 34:37
  Eight million, the single largest mass migration, probably in modern history, left Venezuelans in 2014 because all the wealth of that country was stolen to the benefit of Maduro and his cronies in the regime, but not to the benefit of people of Venezuela.
• 34:50
  You know how destabilizing eight million migrants is?
• 34:54
  The number one fear that Brazil has that Colombia has, that all these countries in the region have about what's happening in Venezuela and our involvement is they're afraid of another mass migration event.
• 35:03
  That's what they feel.
• 35:04
  This is deeply destabilizing stuff.
• 35:06
  It's not going to continue to happen.
• 35:07
  They are not going to come from outside of our hemisphere, destabilize our region in our own backyard, and us have to pay the price for it.
• 35:14
  Not under President Trump.
• 35:15
  That's what this is all about.
• 35:16
  It is about national security in our hemisphere, getting the communists out, the bad guys out.
• 35:22
  Let's get them away from Cuba.
• 35:24
  Also, that's going to be next.
• 35:26
  It's more than drugs.
• 35:27
  It's more than Maduro.
• 35:28
  It's more than a regime change.
• 35:30
  You have to change Maduro.
• 35:32
  He's a bad guy.
• 35:33
  Get him out of there.
• 35:34
  Let the people decide the government that they want for themselves.
• 35:38
  And eventually they will get there.
• 35:40
  And of course, during the press conference on Saturday, we heard Donald Trump say, uh, we're gonna kind of run things.
• 35:45
  The guys behind me here are gonna run things for a little while until we can figure all of this out.
• 35:50
  And I think that's a smart move, don't you, Matt?
• 35:52
  Yeah, there was a good interview.
• 35:53
  There's another part where uh Margaret Britain asked him, like, well, if you know, if um Nodoro is such a high value target, why don't you target these other uh top five high-ranking members of this government?
• 36:03
  Rubio like summarized all the manpower and logistics just of getting Maduro and he goes, so you wanted us to do that five times simultaneously.
• 36:13
  It was so funny how ridiculous he made it sound.
• 36:16
  Rubio is way too good.
• 36:18
  He might be the next president of Venezuela.
• 36:19
  I mentioned that there were celebrations going on all over the place, including Florida and in New York.
• 36:26
  Here is someone speaking from Venezuela on Telemundo in a celebration that was taking place in Orlando.
• 36:32
  He did a press conference.
• 36:34
  Here's what he had to say.
• 36:35
  The reality is that whether you agree with President Trump's actions or not, there's a larger reality at play.
• 36:44
  And that is that Nicolas Maduro and his henchmen are some of the worst the world has ever seen.
• 36:52
  And they deserve the very worst.
• 36:54
  And the reason they deserve the very worst is because his regime is responsible for separating nine million families.
• 37:02
  His regime is responsible for over 16,000 people being imprisoned just simply because they think differently than the government.
• 37:11
  His regime is responsible for over 500 protesters being killed without seeing a day in court.
• 37:20
  His regime is responsible for the forced disappearances of Venezuelans.
• 37:28
  His regime is responsible for the destruction of an entire country and an entire society.
• 37:36
  And so he deserves the very worst.
• 38:16
  But when Holland tweeted out, you know, the U.S.
• 38:19
  must take him out of power.
• 38:21
  I can we can't let these illegitimate election results hold.
• 38:24
  And of course, now he's saying the exact opposite tune.
• 38:27
  But this is every liberal, too.
• 38:29
  Like back then they totally acknowledged it.
• 38:31
  I mean, I think it was actually Biden Harris who initially put a 25 million dollar uh bounty on Maduro's capture of Trump, the Trump administration administration office of 50, and they're now complaining that it got captured.
• 38:45
  Well, what what was the end goal when you guys initially put the 25 million on?
• 38:49
  Well, I want to go to one more important clip here for what I think establishes what is important there in that region and why it's important for the Trump administration to do what they are doing in the Western Hemisphere.
• 39:03
  This is four-star General Laura Richardson.
• 39:06
  Now, she has been in the military for a very long time.
• 39:09
  You don't get four stars overnight.
• 39:11
  She has worked for both Republican and Democrat presidents.
• 39:15
  She specializes in this part of the country, and a lot of this has to do with rare earth minerals, oil, water, energy, all of those things.
• 39:26
  Listen to what she says here.
• 39:28
  We cannot allow China or Russia or Hezbollah or Hamas or Iran have control of this part of the world for the reasons that she is going to give you.
• 40:00
  Technology today.
• 40:01
  Sixty percent of the world's lithium is in the lithium triangle, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile.
• 40:08
  You just have the largest oil reserves, light sweet crude discovered off of Guyana over a year ago.
• 40:14
  Um, you have uh Venezuela's resources as well with uh with oil, uh copper, gold.
• 40:22
  Um we have the Amazon, uh, lungs of the world.
• 40:26
  We have the 31% of the world's fresh water in this region, too.
• 40:30
  Um, I mean, it's just off the charts.
• 40:32
  We have a lot to do.
• 40:33
  This region matters, it has a lot to do with national security, and we need to step up our game.
• 40:40
  So pay attention to her, a four-star general there, Republican and Democrat presidents.
• 40:45
  She knows what she's talking about.
• 40:47
  When you look at the economy surrounding artificial intelligence by 2030, it's 15.7 to 22.3 trillion dollars.
• 40:55
  It is the new arms race, and Donald Trump and his administration is in it, and they are trying to protect it for the American people here in the Western Hemisphere.
• 41:05
  That is what this is about.
• 41:07
  I want to get into China and their defense system that failed.
• 41:11
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• 42:33
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• 42:34
  Uh, Matt, let's get back into this conversation about Venezuela.
• 42:38
  Does everything make some sense now on what I'm saying is the reason for what we did with Maduro and why the Western Hemisphere is so important?
• 42:48
  Uh, yeah, I think so.
• 42:49
  I mean, I'm I'm it was pretty much for any excuse at this point, but uh ever since I saw him sing the song Imagine how it public, I was like, all right, this guy's gotta go.
• 42:57
  I don't care what reason we use.
• 42:59
  He also he also sang uh don't worry, be happy on December 10th.
• 43:03
  Equally guilty.
• 43:04
  That was cringe.
• 43:06
  It really really was terrible.
• 43:08
  Like the way that's put out a clip of Maduro saying, literally saying to us, come and get me.
• 43:12
  And it turns out uh challenge accepted.
• 43:14
  We will totally take up on that offer.
• 43:16
  Another another part of this, Matt, though, is that China was in conversations with him.
• 43:21
  I have heard as late as hours before this happened.
• 43:26
  And obviously, America had intelligence there on the ground, and they had for a very long time to be able to understand what the compound looked like.
• 43:35
  They knew when he moved, how he moved, where he moved.
• 43:39
  They would also know what Chinese envoy was there, and that conversation that would have been taking place.
• 43:45
  The intelligence and the the mission that the military did really it was it was really just amazing.
• 43:51
  And I don't think that we should lose that in the middle of all of this political conversation that we're having.
• 43:56
  But I do want to get back to China because there was an incredible thread that was put out by Inconvenient Truth.
• 44:03
  She is actually a Chinese reporter here in America.
• 44:07
  She's an American, but Chinese descent.
• 44:09
  Her name is Jennifer Zing, and I'll give her all the credit.
• 44:14
  You do know her.
• 44:14
  Okay, she's a member of the International Press Association.
• 44:17
  And here is her reporting on what China has been doing over the last decade, is supplying arms and defense for Venezuela.
• 44:27
  Again, we want to drive a wedge between China and America.
• 44:30
  Here's what she said.
• 44:32
  Beijing's shield fails.
• 44:34
  Venezuela's strongest air defense in South America collapses in U.S.
• 44:39
  military action.
• 44:40
  For years, the Venezuelan military poured vast sums of money into acquiring Chinese-made military equipment, building what it claimed was the most modern defense system in South America.
• 44:53
  At its core was an air defense network centered on the JY27 counter stealth stealth radar, once believed capable of effectively countering U.S.
• 45:04
  stealth aircraft such as the F-22.
• 45:07
  Meanwhile, its Marine Corps equipped with amphibious armored vehicles, was widely regarded as a formidable armored force in the region.
• 45:17
  However, however, during the latest U.S.
• 45:19
  military operation, these Chinese built systems suffered what has been described as catastrophic paralysis.
• 45:28
  Radar systems were blinded in the first wave of electronic warfare.
• 45:33
  We heard that also during the press conference that FA 18s were used to jam this.
• 45:38
  They lacked air superiority and protective cover, failed to deliver expected combat performance, and was destroyed or abandoned.
• 45:48
  Military analysts say this highlights the significant technological gap that still exists when Chinese weapon systems face top-tier opponents, like the U.S.
• 46:00
  military.
• 46:01
  That is her reporting, and I think it's really important because so many of us have a fear of China.
• 46:06
  When was the last time they actually used any of these weapons in real time?
• 46:11
  We saw it over the weekend.
• 46:13
  It took an hour and a half for 150 American airplanes and helicopters and the Delta Force to go in, capture Maduro without anybody being killed.
• 46:22
  I would say that the Chinese air defense, which is the best in South America, failed utterly, don't you?
• 46:30
  Yeah, I mean, when you go to buy a consumer product and it says made in China, you uh automatically assume it's built like crap.
• 46:37
  So I I guess this applies to uh military equipment as well.
• 46:40
  Yeah, and the ships, too.
• 46:41
  I've heard the same thing about their ships that their ships are cheaply made.
• 46:45
  They have passed the American Navy now, but I don't know that it really matters if you're just throwing up numbers of crappy ships.
• 46:52
  It's not gonna do you any good when it comes time to defend yourself or anybody else for that matter.
• 46:57
  I found this video.
• 46:59
  This is actually Chinese propaganda.
• 47:02
  It is actually done in Mandarin, but it is translated here by artificial intelligence.
• 47:08
  This is propaganda from two and a half weeks ago, two and a half weeks ago.
• 47:12
  Here's what the Chinese government was putting out about Venezuela.
• 47:16
  The United States held back for so long and still dared not really strike Venezuela.
• 47:20
  This whole thing is pretty strange.
• 47:22
  U.S.
• 47:22
  warships were already deployed in the Caribbean.
• 47:24
  The threats were made loud and clear, yet nothing actually happened.
• 47:28
  So today, let's break it down and talk about what Washington is really afraid of.
• 47:32
  The first reason, and the biggest one is over in the Taiwan Strait.
• 47:35
  You think the U.S.
• 47:36
  doesn't want to make a move.
• 47:37
  They've probably drafted the plans hundreds of times.
• 47:40
  So why don't they dare?
• 47:42
  Because China is watching from behind.
• 47:44
  Haven't you seen how packed Chinese warships are in the East China Sea?
• 47:47
  That's a very clear message to the United States.
• 47:50
  If you dare to use force in Venezuela, I'll move in the Taiwan Strait.
• 47:53
  For the U.S., strike Venezuela here, lose Taiwan there.
• 47:57
  That consequence is simply too serious.
• 47:59
  The U.S.
• 47:59
  can't afford it.
• 48:00
  What it fears isn't Maduro's limited forces.
• 48:03
  What it fears is fighting on two fronts, east and west at the same time.
• 48:07
  That would be total disaster.
• 48:08
  And Venezuela itself isn't easy to deal with either.
• 48:11
  It has real backing from China.
• 48:12
  Money when it needs money, supplies when it needs supplies.
• 48:16
  That means if the U.S.
• 48:17
  attacks, it won't be anything like Iraq.
• 48:19
  It could turn into a second Afghanistan.
• 48:21
  Or something even worse.
• 48:23
  Someone would keep pumping blood into Venezuela.
• 48:25
  The U.S.
• 48:25
  is watching Russia's struggle in Ukraine.
• 48:27
  Now, does their propaganda sound anything like the Democrats propaganda?
• 48:33
  It does to me.
• 48:35
  No, it's funny because they are the thing.
• 48:38
  And that it's well known that on TikTok, which is a Chinese company.
• 48:43
  Um, the sort of default news feed or the algorithm they have in China is different than the algorithm they use in America.
• 48:51
  And they use it as a tool to attack America and other countries.
• 48:55
  And in China, the algorithm suggests videos to children that show Chinese nationalism, um, promote education, show you know cool things young people are doing and accomplishing to try to motivate them.
• 49:08
  The algorithm in America is generally anti-American content.
• 49:11
  It emphasizes um exaggerating mass shootings and gun deaths, argues that um you know people are dying in the streets they can't afford health care.
• 49:20
  Uh it portrays uh a criticism of America from an entirely left-wing perspective.
• 49:26
  And it's interesting that when they want to destroy a country from within, they don't use the rights talking points, they use the left's.
• 49:33
  And I don't think it's a coincidence.
• 49:35
  The whole thing with Venezuela, you really have to go back to 1974 when the CIA director of America was a guy by the name of George H.W.
• 49:45
  Bush.
• 49:46
  And what he did was go back and he selected the president and the leader there, and that set things in motion.
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  Jeb Bush, by the way, he went down there to start the banking system.
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  And that was at the same time when
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  The gold quit backing the American dollar and it went to the Petrodar.
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  And you may not know all that history, Matt, but you probably do.
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  And that's when all of this started when George H.W.
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  Bush put in that president.
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  Along the way, if you remember what happened, Saudi Arabia increased their production of oil from two million barrels up to five million a day.
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  Oil went down to $20 a barrel, and it killed Venezuela.
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  That is was the end of them.
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  That happened back in the 80s, by the way.
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  And uh the inflation went up.
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  They had to go borrow money from the IMF.
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  A result of that was incredible inflation, no opportunity for the people.
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  Now they may have some opportunity.
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  I want to play this clip, though.
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  This is Tucker Carlson.
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  He is going to bring in Ben Shapiro here.
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  I don't know what your thoughts are on Tucker Carlson.
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  I generally stay away from thinking is losing it.
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  I think so too, but I generally stay away from it.
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  But let's listen to him.
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  Let's listen to Tucker Carlson here on Venezuela.
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  And what he says, and also about Ben Shapiro.
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  He'll bring Ben Shapiro into this.
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  The communist leader of Venezuela, who I guess we're on the way to killing or something, forcing out regime changing him.
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  Maduro, most people didn't know this, whatever his many faults has the most socially conservative country, probably in the hemisphere.
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  It's just a fact.
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  I mean, I didn't make this up.
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  I'm not in charge of Venezuela.
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  Just noticing.
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  Venezuela has banned pornography is what he said.
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  I don't know why they did that, but it was pornography.
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  Banned abortion, bang gay marriage, ban sex changes, and ban usury.
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  You don't have credit cards with 40% interest in Venezuela.
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  Ben Shapiro responded this way.
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  He's shipping fentanyl to the United States to kill Americans.
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  Why don't we give a sh whether he's whether he's anti-LGBTQ rights?
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  Maduro's against Israel.
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  I don't give a sh.
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  Well, you spent like a decade pretending you didn't give a sh.
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  So what is Tucker Carlson all about here?
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  Is he supporting Venezuela with the regime of Maduro communist?
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  Has Tucker Carlson gone that far to crazy?
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  Uh listen, I I'm totally with the Venezuelan communist party on sex changes, I guess.
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  But uh unfortunately it doesn't uh outweigh all of the negatives.
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  Yeah, what about all the thousands?
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  The thousands that they have killed and put in prison.
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  I guess that doesn't really matter as long as they ban pornography and same-sex marriage.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  That doesn't make any sense, don't you?
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  I'm sure people are using VPNs there anyway.
• 52:33
  Like I doubt it's actually a total ban, but listen, uh, every bad person in the world, you can find good things they've done.
• 52:41
  Um, I'm sure if we went through like every like Joseph Stalin's life, we find one thing where it would be like, all right, I guess he he came to the right conclusion.
• 52:50
  The airbroken clock is right, maybe maybe just once a day, but uh no, it it's I don't know.
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  I don't know what the point is.
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  You can find good things that even the worst people in the world have done.
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  It's it's a question of do the good outweigh the bad uh the to the bad outweigh the good.
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  And in the case of Venezuela, it does by a margin of sun even debatable.
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  I think we're gonna have to have some patience here, Matt, as we close out this hour.
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  It's gonna take some time, and I think if you are a supporter of the Western hemisphere that you are fearful of China as an adversary, Russia and Iran, the BRICS nations.
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  If you are fearful of them, then I think that this is a big move for you.
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  And it means uh as maybe as much to the American people as what it meant to the Venezuelan people.
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  And if that can continue to grow to Cuba and to other nations there in South and Central America, that is great news for America for prosperity, for freedom.
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  I think it was a big day over the weekend.
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  Yep.
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  100%.
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  Nothing else.
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  That's it.
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  I I just said it all for you.
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  100% agreement.
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  So I can't agree literally anymore.
• 54:01
  Well, we're running out of time.
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  I did have planned some Jack Frost or Jack Frost, Jack Smith uh uh video or audio, and I did not uh we're not gonna get to it, but I do want to also promote our new show that is coming up.
• 54:15
  Matt and I are going to be great.
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  We're gonna be doing a video show on Rumble and YouTube.
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  The name of it is going to be the PBJ podcast.
• 54:24
  That is Palumbo Booker Justified.
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  We're justified in asking the questions, justified and answering some of them.
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  It's PB and J podcast.
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  You can go there right now.
• 54:34
  You can go to both Rumble and YouTube and find it.
• 54:37
  PB and J podcast.
• 54:39
  You won't find anything there yet.
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  There's no content.
• 54:42
  We'll be doing this live.
• 54:44
  We'll be doing it live on X, and we'll be doing it live on both of those platforms.
• 54:49
  We would love to have you come join us for that.
• 54:52
  It will be different because it's going to be video.
• 54:54
  You'll be able to see both of us and the clips that we play during this hour.
• 54:58
  You'll also be able to see that.
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  So come and and join us for that.
• 55:03
  You can also ask questions as we go through this in this format.
• 55:07
  So we're pretty excited about getting this going.
• 55:09
  We've been talking about it for months, and it's time to do it here in the new year, so we're going to be bringing that to you.
• 55:15
  Matt, I'm pretty excited about it.
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  What about you?
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  Once again, 100%.
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  That's all you've got.
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  You're supposed to be helping me.
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  I honestly thought the last question you were ending out the show, so I wasn't want to go over or anything.
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  We're close.
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  Very excited for the show.
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  Um, as you were saying, we'll do it.
• 55:32
  I think we'll have a video component.
• 55:34
  Um, you know, probably be rumble, X, etc.
• 55:37
  Um, you'll and you'll be able to ask us questions during the show.
• 55:40
  We'll be interactive and all that.
• 55:42
  So the audience will get to be a part of the show, too, which will be a nice.
• 55:45
  And Matt, by the way, throw out your X handle, Twitter handles so people can follow you.
• 55:50
  I'll give mine tonight too, so that when we are live on that show, you can come and watch us on X on X Live as well as Rumble and YouTube.
• 56:00
  So give your handle out.
• 56:02
  I don't think I've ever asked you to do this, so go ahead.
• 56:04
  So Matt Palumbo 12, P-A-L-U-MBO.
• 56:08
  What is the 12 significance?
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  So I was the original Matt Columbo.
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  And then uh this is like 10, 15 years ago, I get rid of Twitter.
• 56:16
  It's another Matt Palovo in politics.
• 56:18
  He actually used to, I think he worked for the Game Rich Campaign like back in 2012.
• 56:21
  He was friends with Steve Bannon.
• 56:23
  And if you search him, if you Google any name, you see other main Matt Palumbo where we're competing for search results.
• 56:29
  But he got he then got my account, the original one when he made a Twitter after I deactivated mine.
• 56:34
  So I don't know.
• 56:36
  I didn't want to be Matt Palumbo 2.
• 56:39
  But Matt Palumba one made no sense because he was the Map Paloma one.
• 56:43
  So you combined them.
• 56:45
  Well, yeah, you combined the one and the two, and you came up with 12.
• 56:48
  Genius, I would say.
• 56:50
  The same thing happened to me.
• 56:51
  There was another Booker Scott, so I am the real Booker Scott at Real Booker Scott on X is where you can find us.
• 56:57
  Follow us both so that when we go live on X, you can come and watch this new show, the PB and J podcast.
• 57:04
  This hour is over.
• 57:05
  Matt, thank you as always for joining me here tonight and every Monday night.
• 57:10
  We'll watch for you with uh Carl Higby on Newsmax.
• 57:13
  Yankee, my pleasure.
• 57:14
  And I'm actually taking a little bit of a break from Carl because of uh fatherhood, but I will be back.
• 57:20
  Okay.
• 57:20
  Well, you're gonna be on the PB and J podcast.
• 57:22
  We'll start that next year.
• 57:23
  Even bigger.
• 57:24
  Even bigger.
• 57:24
  I'm Booker Scott, and you were told two thousand years ago that you are the salt of the earth, and salt without flavor has no value, so whatever you do, keep being salty.
• 57:33
  Have a great night.
• 57:34
  There is only one truth.
• 57:36
  You've been listening to The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.