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Kelon Campbell (Terri Joe) on Missionary in Miami & Wanting to Disappear | Delulu with Ryan Lu #305 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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Have you seen I love LA? I love that.
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I want to be on it. So bad they're capsulized.
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Is that where I work? Captured what LA is like so
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well. Perfectly.
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Yeah. Like, it's so funny.
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Like I'm watching. I'm like, why am I her?
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So best podcast you've been on with this one?
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Yes, the best podcast I've been on today.
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How is it like transitioning from, you know, doing the live
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interacting framing? People, I'm just kidding.
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Hello Jo Lulu's and welcome back to Do Lulu, today's guest.
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He is one of the most iconic chaotic, unfiltered Internet
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breaking personalities of all time.
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Creator, actor, writer, improv king and the mastermind behind
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the iconic Terry Jo please welcome Kelon.
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Hi. Oh my gosh, we were chatting so
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much before this and I was like fuck, we should be filming
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because I feel like we were like nothing else to talk about we're
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getting into. It.
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OK, we won't talk about what we were talking about, but we'll
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talk about other stuff. But we have a lot going on.
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I have a story I wanted to tell you.
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My publicist vetoed it, but I think I'm going to tell you.
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OK OK, so you and I actually met the from you and I actually met
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before a couple of years ago. Do you remember?
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You don't remember. I'm going to remind you this.
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Is. My first time meeting you and
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this is the first and only thing you had said to me.
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Oh God, was it to me? How?
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No, it was, it was, it was that TikTok pride in 2023.
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I couldn't have been that crazy. Well, it was that TikTok pride
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in 2023. And then basically I saw James
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Charles and then I go to James Charles.
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Oh clock. I go to James Charles, you're
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with James Charles. I go to James Charles.
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And I was like, I hate doing this.
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I never do this. I never, never do this.
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But I will literally die if I don't get a picture of you.
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And then you were like, well you should kill Tulu.
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Well, that does sound like me. Yeah, 'cause I'm actually
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starting to remember that. Actually, yes.
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Oh, I couldn't say that. I said I I remember that you
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were with. Yes.
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You're like, yes. I was there, yeah.
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Yeah, I someone was wearing silver.
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Yeah, I was with my friend and then, I mean, we, I, I was just
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like, it's James Charles. Yeah, you know what I mean?
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And then I was like, well, damn. I was like, I told Charlie
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before there's like, can I tell him that?
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And he was like, maybe? Yeah, well.
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Maybe see it differently. Like I feel like, I feel like
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that's the story should. Tell no I literally say crazy
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stuff to people all the time. I think that's like literally my
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MO, so I don't put it past bring Sure, I said that yes, and
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that's why I got scared When you said that we've met before that
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you meant we ho. Wait, what would you have said
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to me in We Ho? I have no clue.
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I'm always usually like very drunk when I'm there so.
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Oh my God, how are you? When I first moved here I was
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there a lot actually, but nowadays I couldn't be caught
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dead there. Really.
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Yeah, OK, I get it. I used to go to the whole lot
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too. But like, I've been so busy and
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honestly, it gets me fucked up. Yeah, really bad.
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It's not because I'm busy. Oh, you're not trying to be
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there, huh? You just don't want to be there.
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Well, no, not really. It's just a weird energy there.
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Sometimes I don't really want to be around.
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Yeah, I honestly feel that way. Especially like with the people
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who frequently how like not that there's anything wrong with
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them, but it's like it's not really my vibe.
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I like to go like to have the phone to dance on a drink for
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sure. You know what I mean?
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It's definitely a fun time, yeah.
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But honestly, we're going, yeah. OK.
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Perfect. Well, that's how we met and now
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we're re meeting right now. It's such a crazy meeting story
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I like. Crazy.
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Literally. Half it in the.
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Other way, honestly, it makes sense.
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It's on brand, on brand for both of us.
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Really, really, really, really. Cuz I was like, I was like, what
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do I say to this? And I was like, now that it's
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two years later, I don't really have a response either.
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You know, I got that selfie of James Charles, y'all, but it is
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scrubbed right now. So, you know, we'll OK, we'll
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look for it. We'll pop it up here.
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There. All right.
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Well, Keylon, we want to know everything about you.
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Thank you seriously so much for being on the show.
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You are busy. I know you're saying that.
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You're not. You're busy.
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You're just from the movie. You have everything going on.
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You're about to present something at an award show.
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Hello Busy. Well, sure.
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I mean, that's like busy, but there's so much time in between
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all of that stuff that it's just like in my head, I'm not really
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doing anything. Really, what are you doing
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between if you're not like working on something?
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Scrolling through my phone on TikTok, laying in my bed doing
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absolutely which I should be doing.
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Well, how often are you like going live?
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These days, very not frequently. Is it like a priority for you
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anymore or do you just feel like?
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It is something I should be doing but I'm a like big
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procrastinator. Totally.
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And I don't want to say it because it's going to sound like
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bad, but my heart is not really in it anymore.
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Like the live thing. I I do still like, like it,
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Yeah, but it's not as fun as it used to be for me.
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Yeah. So.
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Do you think it's like a different pressure?
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Because like when you're starting off and doing it, it's
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just like you're just doing it. And now it's like there's these
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expectations for Terry Joe, the performance for the lives and
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interactions. Definitely, yeah.
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Because I, I see a lot of the comments and then a lot of
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people are like, I miss the old Terry gel when she did this and
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when she had her hair like this. So never.
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Like go watch that. Yeah, and then it makes me feel
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like, well, shit, like I'm not doing like a good job anymore.
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Which obviously it could translate that me not actually
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like liking it that much anymore.
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That translates very actually having fun and then whatever,
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but. I mean creative burnout is so
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real and it's like when you're not into it anymore because like
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for me, I don't even post content anymore.
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Like I think I posted 3 videos this year and it's about to be
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March and I used to post every single day and I used to go live
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every single day. It's just like.
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It's tiring. It's tiring and it's the same.
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And then it gets like repetitive and it's just like it's, it
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becomes less of like I'm excited to do this and become more of a
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chore. Exactly.
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You know, So I totally get that. And especially like with what
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you do, like that's performing. Yeah, full on.
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Performing for five hours 5. Hours.
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That's. Crazy.
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Yeah. Well, it didn't used to feel
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like that. It like you're just doing it and
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you'll be fine. I was like actually having fun
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and like really enjoying it. So it didn't feel like I was
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like spending that much time. But now I go online when it's
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like I'm like it's only with 30. And you're like, wow, at the
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time, really sticky. Do you think about like ever
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coming back full force, like just doing a committing to it
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again like that? Yeah, I think about it
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sometimes. The action isn't.
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It's not the priority so much, but it is a thought I'm trying
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to obviously move into like me. Too exactly so between doing the
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lives and then TikTok and content creation, like you're
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expanding the world of Terry Joe anyways, like not even
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necessarily doing it online, but you just had the to be movie and
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you're doing more things. And I think that's probably
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really smart 'cause that's more sustainable too, and you have
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more support with it, 'cause I feel like when you're just doing
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yourself, like that's when it gets really overwhelming and
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that's when a lot of things are going on, you know?
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I would actually explode my head would 100%.
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I cannot handle like pressures. Really.
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Yeah. I feel like I'm really good
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under pressure, Yeah. But I've been so overwhelmed and
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like so whiny and bratty recently.
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Like I've been like telling my team and my publicist
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specifically. I'm like, Oh my God, do I really
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have to do this? And they're like, yes, you do.
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I'm like, okay, I guess I'll do. I guess.
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I just, like, was talking to Charlie yesterday about it and I
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was like, I just want like a little bit of a break and was
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like, OK, you can take 1 of May. And I was like, yeah.
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Four months from now, yeah, a little bit old, that's.
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Great. Like, yeah, well, please pencil
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that in. But I get it, honestly, like
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this whole thing is a lot. Especially like trying to
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transition into traditional media, because I'm also trying
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to transition into more traditional media, right?
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Like you just got to put the work in, yeah.
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Which is true, but I hate working.
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Really. I really do.
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I'm so. Opposite I want to I'm going to
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guess your Zodiac sign Taurus. No.
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Fuck, I don't know. Then cancer.
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Yeah. Clock clock, clock clock our.
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Cancer's lazy. I think tortoises can be lazy.
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But then I went to cancer because I was like, honestly
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talking to you earlier before we started filming, talking to you
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right now, I'm like, you're coming off like sensitive and
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soft. So I was like, OK, it's giving
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cancer which. Is completely the opposite of
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that. Complete opposite of sensitive
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and soft really, but you're so outspoken.
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Yeah, but I'm kind. Of how would you describe
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yourself? I don't know.
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Do you feel like, aligned with Terry Jo?
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Like, do you feel like Terry Jo is, like, very similar to you?
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I think in some aspects, yeah like we have like similarities
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obviously, because I'm literally her yeah literally.
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But I, I don't know, I I can in my head yeah I'm like like shy
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and like a little bit like reserved yeah but like it takes
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like maybe like 5 seconds for me to not be shy 100%.
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I mean, and I say things like kill yourself, you.
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Told me to kill as you. As you.
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You were not Terry. Joe.
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Yeah. That was like the first time I
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met you. That was the.
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First time and only yeah. But I don't know, I I'm I'm
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strange. That's how I would.
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I mean it works, but like it works it's.
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Electric and it's so magnetic and like, it's honestly makes
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for really good entertainment. Yeah, genuinely.
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Like, it's so good. I think with like the whole
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thing with Terry Jo, you know how you said like, you know she
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is you. Would you be friends with Terry
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Jo if she was like a real person and you matter?
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Not because she would be annoying as how would you like
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her. No, you would hate her.
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Yeah. Well, I would.
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I think anybody would hate her. She's like every 5 seconds
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bringing up Jesus. Like you love to hate the type
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of person? Yeah, that would be like, I
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would have to slap her, I think. I mean, completely fair.
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I feel like that's how people react to her, too, especially in
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their lives. And, like, whatever she says.
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But that's the thing. Like, what's interesting about
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Terry Joe is just like, the fear of, like, not even giving a fuck
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about being cancelled, but the takes, the things that are being
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said, it's just, like, completely fearless.
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Yeah. You know, in this day and age,
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like people really fear. Yeah, the cancellation.
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Total I I don't think that's a thing anymore, to be honest.
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It's. Really not.
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I don't even. I don't even really think it was
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like a thing before. People get cancelled all the
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time and they're still popping up.
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And they let yourself be cancelled to be cancelled.
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Yeah. Like it's pretty much if you lay
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down and die when that happens then yeah.
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But if you like really demand. Exactly.
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People literally have the attention span of a goldfish
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they will forget in the next 5 seconds there.
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Are so many people who've gone cancelled and they're still,
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we're talking about a million of them right before this, like
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there's so many of them are still trucking along.
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Here they are still. They are.
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Millionaires living in there. I mean, you're.
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Owning it, though, because they're getting cancelled for,
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like, actually like Horrell. Yeah, they're doing more, like,
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terrible shit they're doing. And then you're, like, playing
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into a character, you know? True.
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Unless like, OK, what beliefs in Terry Joe do you stand with?
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I don't really have any beliefs to be honest.
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Not a belief cut. I'm joking.
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I. Don't believe in shit.
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I don't know, I, I identify with a lot of what she is like on a
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minuscule level, though. It's not like as full out like
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obviously I think a lot of or most of LGBTQ people have like
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internalized hatred for that. And also like black people have
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like a little bit of external or people PLCS have external hatred
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towards their race, all kinds of things.
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I mean, it's satire, and it's like, really well done because
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that's fucking hilarious, you know what I mean?
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And I think that's what makes it work so well.
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Yeah, Well, I want to get into Helon.
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So, like, where did you come from?
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How did you come out to LA? What was the plan?
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What's going on here? I never really have a plan for
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anything. I kind of just do everything.
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Just winging it. Yeah, I wear everything.
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Lucky girls in her as fuck because like what the hell.
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Like you're killing it. Well, I don't I, I don't like to
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believe in luck, really bad luck or good luck.
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I think you kind of like what I think this is not to sound like
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so woo woo, but I think whatever is for you will be for you.
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Love that. And if it's not, then it wasn't
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for you at all. Interesting.
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And you just move on and move forward and you keep and you
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accept that. Exactly.
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I've never pushed any envelope ever in life.
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I feel like I. I feel like Terry Joe is the
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envelope that's being pushed. Yeah, right.
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But I meant like if I like wanted something and then I felt
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like I kept like failing at it. I would never like keep trying.
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I would just like quit. But I guess when I'm a quitter
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and I would just do something that.
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I just would never give up. I believe it's a little bit
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above. I believe.
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I believe in luck so much, of course.
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And I also believe in like, putting in the work.
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Yeah. And like being smart about it
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and also like being really strategic about it 'cause I feel
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like they go hand in hand and that's like a really important
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aspect. Yeah, of what that is, I just
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literally Wang Wang. You weighing that shit?
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You weighing that shit hard. Girl, is that a word?
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It is now. It is now I Wang.
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You winged it. You winged.
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It I literally just like literally went live on a whim,
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bored COVID, nothing to do right?
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A little tipsy off of like, we've all been there, yeah.
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That's how I started to. I think a lot of people I think
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like social media had a really big boom in COVID cause
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literally everyone was so bored, nothing to do.
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Nothing to do. All eyes were on social media.
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Yeah, especially TikTok, 'cause that was like a new app.
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But yeah, I just like did it and then it spiraled from there and
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then I just now I'm here. And then now you just started
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and Co wrote a movie. Yeah, that is so crazy insane
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like. Could you have imagined that
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when you started like putting on the wig and going live?
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No. I just thought I was being
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selling and having fun, which I was.
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Oh, you're selling the wigs. That's what you're selling the
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wig. No, oh, wait, what are you
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saying? The wig selling?
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No silly. I was just being silly and
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having fun. I was like, were you like
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originally trying to sell? No, I'm like, I'm selling the
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original wig with the original smell.
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People who would buy it. Yeah, I.
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Didn't even know I'll buy it. I didn't even know where it is
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actually. I think I got cut it and throw
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it away actually. No, you're kidding.
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They're giving you new wigs. They're giving you new wigs Who?
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Like the movie. Yeah, 'cause you had a different
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one when you went to Miami. Yes, but I don't.
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They have those wigs. I didn't take it home.
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I should have. Yeah, demand it.
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Next contract, next Terry Joe movie.
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It's going to. Be well, they would.
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I actually did take one. I lied.
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I took George's wig, but I didn't take Terry's wig.
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That was such an interesting new character, too, because I feel
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like expanding the world, Terry Joe, like I like that.
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It's like now we're throwing family involved.
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Like now we're seeing these people, you know?
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Well, they've always been we're. Going to get into the movie,
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we're going to get into all of it, but so where are you
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originally from? Houston.
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Houston did you always know you wanted to come out to LA?
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No, I, I guess when I was a little kid, like actually like a
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little kid, I used to be like, I'm going to move to California
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and be an actor like a little kids say.
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That was mine too. Yeah, but then I like kind of
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like lost that dream because I just like, came into reality.
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I mean, not really like, you're doing it now.
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Yeah. And then it like kind of
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manifested itself an accident. But I like after I kind of like
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had a big boom on TikTok. I was coming here a lot for like
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random stuff and then I was like hanging out with my friends and
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I like had so much fun every time I came here and I was like,
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I want to move there because everyone was like, you should
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move, you should move. I was like, I guess.
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And then I like I said, I just do everything.
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I. Mean this is where the industry
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is. That's why I moved to LA It's
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like everything's here and it's like being here makes it easier
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to get things done. Yeah, it's.
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Cute, but I I definitely don't think I would ever live here
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forever. Really.
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Well, how are you liking LA? I like it, but mostly I like the
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social aspect of it that like, if I wanted to go out on a
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Wednesday, I could. Oh yeah.
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Which is not the best thing, but like, I it's, it's fun and I
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love to have fun. It's like literally my one thing
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in life that I like, Like, love to be out and doing crazy stuff.
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Yeah. So yeah, I think that's why I
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like it here the most. But that's like, not.
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Yeah, I like the social aspect of it too, because like, I feel
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like I do that a lot though. Like, I'm out so much.
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Yeah, and I'm doing something all the time.
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But that's LA, very LA. And I also lived in New York,
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and I also felt like I was very in New York too.
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I don't know how people live in New York.
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I would actually die. You don't like New York?
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I like. OK, OK, question mark.
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I do like. He's about to get mad.
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Get. Mad.
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OK, I do like it, but I could never live there and I could not
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spend more than three days there.
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OK. It's, it's it's a small dose
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city for you. Yeah.
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Yeah, but I'm like that with a lot of places actually.
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I don't really like to go on like vacations from.
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Oh, I hate travelling. Hate.
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Trips. Yeah, yeah.
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I really just want to stay. Here and work four days is like
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the Max 100% work. I just want to stay here and
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work. I do just want to work because
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we talked about it before this and you're like, I do not want
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to. Work.
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I don't like working if my dream life is to have like a huge
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house and somewhere fun and like never do anything ever again.
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OK, let's say you were like a billionaire.
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Would you still want to perform? Would you still want?
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To not in the slightest. I will be sitting in a yacht in
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Miami drinking all day. Oh, I'm just getting crazy.
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I I would never want to work ever again.
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I OK, if I was a billionaire, I would use it to fund all my
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projects and I would clock in every day like I'm clocked in
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right now. You know what?
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I mean, absolutely not. I would never.
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Oh my God. I literally would disappear.
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OK, So what? What's the goal?
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Do you think you want to like get out of like doing this?
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Well, end goal, obviously. I think everyone has the end
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goal of like chilling. I don't know.
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There's like a lot of people who like to work by like even like,
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like retirement is what I mean. Like just like having fun and
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doing the things you actually want to do instead of like
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having to like like you start clock in.
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But as of right now, like obviously I'm building towards
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that. So you got to put in the work to
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get there. Yeah, and honestly, in like the
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grand scheme of things and you're going to hate hearing
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this. It's still so early.
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It's probably. Going to be a lot.
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Of like work and like it's. Probably I'm not get it, but do
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I want to? If someone just gave me a
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billion dollars I would literally quit today.
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What if they were like a billion dollars, but you have to do this
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for like 10 years clocking in? Well, I'm gonna do that anyway,
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so. Realistically, I was like, well,
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that's that's. What we're all doing right now,
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Yeah, I was like, immediately. Well, how are you liking, like
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being a creator in LA because like we talked a little bit
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about before this and like the the aspects of it and like how
17:58
the whole thing of like, Oh my God, we should hang out.
18:00
Yeah. You know well.
18:01
Yeah, it's definitely very, like a lot of people like to say like
18:04
LA is fake, which it is. It is, but I think it's more so
18:09
just like people being like so wrapped in their own little
18:13
bubble. Yeah.
18:14
And then like you like talk like I'm talking to you right now.
18:16
This is our second time reading, not our first second time.
18:18
But like. And then usually you be like,
18:21
oh, yeah, yeah, we should do this.
18:22
We should get that. We should do this.
18:23
Yeah. And then you just literally
18:24
never follow up because your actual life like outside of
18:27
social. Media inside of like.
18:29
Hits you and you're doing a million other things.
18:31
Yeah, which I understand. I mean, we have plans.
18:33
We're getting lunch before the GLAAD Awards.
18:34
Yes, I'm sure. I'm sure.
18:35
Of course. Yeah, I'll.
18:36
Text you. Let's totally do that I.
18:40
Don't even have your number? Yeah.
18:42
No, I, I it's cute and I, I don't like hold people to that
18:49
standard, but people are like annoying in that aspect here
18:52
where it's like people will literally tell you like, oh, we
18:56
should hang out, we should hang out.
18:57
We should end up you're like, OK, yeah, sure I will.
18:59
And then they never follow up like you should just not say.
19:01
That I'm so guilty of that. Yeah, I do that all the time.
19:04
We're like Oh my God, baby girl, wait, when are we gonna see you?
19:06
But it's so easy to not say that.
19:08
Just be like, yeah, it was so nice to meet you.
19:10
It's like. It's like, it just has to be
19:12
like a oh, I, I like you, I wanna be around you.
19:13
But it's like, yeah, you know what I mean?
19:15
But then, like I said, life hits you, which is why I understand
19:18
it. But at the same time, I would
19:19
never tell somebody, oh, we should hang out, we should get
19:21
lunch 'cause then it's like then I, I feel obligated to actually
19:24
do it and I will follow through. You know, what if, OK, what if
19:28
someone asks you and they're like, Oh my God, the thing I
19:30
did, are you going to follow up on them or are you going to just
19:31
like see if they reach out to you?
19:36
Like I said, I would never ask, but if I did I would follow up
19:40
with them. What?
19:40
If you did want to hang out with them, would you ask?
19:42
Well, I don't usually like to hang out with a lot really.
19:45
I don't know. I like, I have like friends now
19:47
and they're like the overwhelming that I have now.
19:50
So I'm like, I could not imagine adding anybody else that's
19:54
saying that I would never make friends, whatever.
19:56
Totally. I thought we were friends.
19:58
Yeah, we're totally. Yeah, we're hanging out.
20:00
Wait, should we hang? Out.
20:01
Yeah, let's hang. Out after this, Let's hang.
20:03
Out. Yeah, that'd be cool.
20:04
OK, that's what I. Thought but not it's cute.
20:07
I I understand it, but it is annoying.
20:10
Yeah, I got that. I feel like for me, like I, I
20:13
just hang on my team like that's it.
20:15
Like that's 'cause then I'm so wrapped up in my work or
20:17
whatever it's. Working.
20:18
Yeah, right. Or like if you want to see me
20:20
like you have to come visit like work essentially I.
20:23
Mean it's my job. Alcohol though, exactly.
20:26
So OK, so you're in between stuff and when you're not doing
20:28
anything you just want to chill. Well, yes.
20:30
How How like how booked do you want to be?
20:33
How busy? Do you want to be?
20:34
I kind of like the the like how we did the movie, like the movie
20:40
was like such a like short spurt of like working.
20:43
Yeah, half right. Gruesome work.
20:45
Yeah, it. Was like a long.
20:46
Days time consuming yes like 17 hours on set Oh my God literally
20:51
just sitting there like just repeating the same thing over
20:53
and over which it was my first time doing something like that
20:57
so it was definitely like hard on my maybe the second movie
21:01
will be a. Little bit easier, yeah, we'll
21:05
have a bigger budget. And a bigger team, bigger
21:07
everything curious bigger hair I'm.
21:10
Scared exactly my hair is going to Texas.
21:14
Maybe. OK, where's she going next?
21:16
If there's when there's another movie.
21:20
Alaska. I'm just kidding.
21:23
We'll watch. Terry, Joe.
21:23
Anywhere. Well, definitely somewhere I'm
21:25
in my I told my manager I was joking.
21:26
So I was like, if we did another movie, I want it to be somewhere
21:29
cold because it was. So as you can see if you watch
21:32
the movie, drenched sweat the entire time, totally filmed.
21:36
Were you comfortable with that? Like were you OK being filmed
21:39
like sweating? No, I hate it.
21:41
What can you do? They couldn't, like, stop you.
21:43
Or something. Well, literally every 5 seconds.
21:47
Dress wedding. So at this point is like fuck
21:49
it, roll, literally roll the cameras.
21:51
Fuck it. Even when we would like pause
21:53
for like the next take or to repeat that same take, they
21:56
would come and like pat me by the time we're filming again.
21:59
You were so much better than me. I would have been a diva.
22:01
I would have been like, I'm so sorry everyone here.
22:03
We are not shooting like, I'm very sorry.
22:06
We're going to have to figure something else.
22:07
Out then we would never shoot the movie if that was the case
22:09
because. And then I then I would the
22:11
movie would not be. Done.
22:11
I'm like an actual like big like I literally was sweating before
22:15
I came like before we started filming, I was literally
22:17
sweating. Oh.
22:18
Really. I didn't notice.
22:19
I did. I told you I did notice you
22:21
sweating in the movie. Well, yeah.
22:23
Well, that was like extreme. It was literally coming out of
22:26
my. Mind, but I also thought I was a
22:27
part of your character. Yeah, but then like, you see
22:31
Georgia, like literally in her, like, kitchen.
22:34
Yeah. But then you see there's a close
22:36
about me and I'm like fully sweating.
22:38
Like, why is she sweating? Like there's no need to be hurt.
22:41
You're in a house. But literally, yeah, I, I get
22:44
like nervous sweats actually a lot.
22:46
And that whole time I was like completely nervous.
22:49
Obviously, it's my first time doing it.
22:51
Yeah. Oh.
22:51
My God, absolutely, that makes sense.
22:53
It was horrible. Yeah, I mean, you're comfy now.
22:55
You're not sweating right now. Well, yes.
22:57
Yes. Visibly.
22:59
Delulu is a comfy show, we're not nervous.
23:04
I get over it like the initial like especially performing like
23:09
right now I don't feel like I'm performing, that's why.
23:11
Oh, really? But we talked about it earlier,
23:13
like, do you feel like when you put on the character, like it's
23:16
less pressure on you, or do you feel like it's more pressure now
23:18
People have an expectation. Both because I feel less like,
23:24
like I said, people are like judging me as a person and
23:28
they're like judging the character, which I don't really
23:30
care about. If they judge the character,
23:32
you're like, what? Yeah, it's like, yeah.
23:33
But for you, it's like this idea of being perceived as little.
23:36
Yeah, it feels crazy to be perceived at all.
23:38
That's crazy. You're like completely being
23:40
perceived right now. Yeah, yeah, I know.
23:43
I've getting, I've gotten, getting gotten.
23:45
I've gotten more, Yeah. I've gotten more used to it as
23:49
I've done more like podcasts and like done more stuff outside of
23:54
Cherry Joe. Well, how often are you like
23:56
thinking about differentiating between you yourself as a person
23:59
and then the character Terry Joe?
24:02
Never really that often I have, I have that battle like when
24:05
even when I was coming here, I think in my head I'm like, oh,
24:08
should I do it as Terry? Should I do it as myself?
24:10
Because in my head I feel like people are more inclined to want
24:15
to like see Terry, but then also it might I'm like, it's so
24:19
repetitive. I'm like literally saying the
24:21
same thing. Everything is like the same
24:23
thing. I'm.
24:23
I mean it's. A lot of improv for you when you
24:24
are a Terry though. Yeah, which I don't like.
24:26
That's like, fine with me. I also feel like I'm doing
24:28
improv. I know I me too.
24:31
I just have a normal conversation we.
24:32
Really are. Improving, but no.
24:35
That's so Hollywood. This is improv.
24:38
Yeah. Really just getting to know
24:39
someone that's improv. Yeah, Well, that's, I think that
24:41
like life in general is improv like you're everything is like.
24:45
It's all performance, like honestly, genuinely like on
24:47
camera, off camera like, and I don't know, I hate being a
24:50
cliche about it, but especially in LA.
24:51
Have you seen I love LA? I love that.
24:54
I want to be on it so. Bad.
24:56
They're capsulized. Is that where I work?
24:59
Captured what LA is like so well.
25:02
Perfectly, yeah. Like it's so funny.
25:03
Like I'm watching him like why am I her?
25:05
And I'm like, why am I her? Like why am I all?
25:07
Even the situation like everything is so like it's so.
25:10
Real, all of it's so real and I think that's so funny 'cause
25:13
it's like, it's obviously like satirical, but I'm like, no, but
25:15
like literally living in that world, coming from this point of
25:18
view, I'm like, it's so. Accurate.
25:19
I wonder if people who don't live here never lived here and
25:22
they watch it and they're like. I wanted their perspective, like
25:24
the Midwest or something. What they think of it, I don't
25:26
even know. It's probably like really
25:27
popular like. Here, I mean, I, I definitely
25:29
like, fits the stereotype of LA, so they're probably like, Oh
25:32
yeah, that's how. Oh yeah, they're feeding really
25:34
deep into I literally just sex my manager and was like guys,
25:36
please get me on season 2. Like I'm so I don't even need to
25:39
play character. Like I can literally just do
25:42
yeah, like. Extra in the background.
25:45
Happily, I'll be APA on set. I will be APA.
25:48
I'll hold the mic. I'll do all of it like I want to
25:51
be on that. Show definitely was really good.
25:53
I'm like excited for a season 2 and everyone did like a really
25:55
good job. They ate.
25:57
Oh my gosh. And then Rachel was like, that
25:59
whole thing is like so inspiring because she was being content.
26:01
And now she's like, she wrote and she starred in this like
26:05
with you and your movie too. Like that's crazy.
26:08
So that's where we want to go. OK, So do you feel like when
26:12
you're not Terry Joe, do you ever slip into the character as
26:14
Terry Joe like, or do you only like embody it when you're
26:17
dressed as Terry Joe? Yeah, I, I think it slips out
26:21
sometimes, me just being insane in general.
26:23
I like, yeah, like it's like whenever I'm like talking to
26:27
someone and they have an accent, like I cannot help myself.
26:30
I like actually start like repeating them in their accent
26:34
and they're I they're looking. I feel like I cannot help it.
26:37
Say something right now. What comes after 99?
26:42
Are you from like Atlanta? He's from Atlanta.
26:47
Oh my God, I'm so glad I'm like you.
26:49
Clogged. Is that an Atlanta thing?
26:52
A little bit, yeah. I feel like certain people have
26:54
like different like ways of speaking and that is very in
26:57
Atlanta play. I'm saying the word 100.
27:00
OK, interesting. That's new to me.
27:02
He is from Atlanta. Oh wow, that's like actually
27:04
crazy. Going to Miami and the whole
27:06
aspect of that, like when you're writing the movie, like did you
27:08
know you want to take her out of her where she's from and like.
27:11
Yeah, I used to watch this movie growing up.
27:15
It was like one of my, not one of my.
27:16
It is one of my favorite movies called Bubble Boy.
27:18
OK, It's like with Jake Gyllenhaal.
27:20
He'd like was in his bubble his entire life because they thought
27:25
he had to like this disease. And he falls in love with the
27:29
neighbors. She like, moves away to get
27:30
married or something. And then he like leaves the
27:32
bubble and like encounters all these like different, like
27:35
people different stuff he's never seen because he's been in
27:37
that bubble his entire life in the house.
27:40
And I wanted the movie to have like, be like, in that same
27:44
vein. I can see that my head Terry Jo
27:46
is like a bubble boy as well because she's lived in that
27:49
little religious bubble her entire life.
27:51
And that explains so much of her personality, her beliefs and
27:53
everything so. She makes me like knows.
27:55
I mean the only thing she knows is like of the Bible and
27:58
whatever her parents and the people around her tell her which
28:00
the people around her aren't the best people.
28:03
So. Explains a lot.
28:04
And then you push her out into like the real world, which like
28:06
Miami is like way crazier than a small town in Louisiana.
28:10
And then obviously what ensues happens after that I.
28:14
Really like that. That's super intentional.
28:16
I didn't know that. Yeah, the a lot of the movie
28:18
actually is really intentional by for like people.
28:21
Like it goes on people's head 'cause it's like, oh, this is
28:23
funny. Oh, I mean, honestly, you could
28:26
have a lot of meaning in depth, too.
28:27
Yeah. While also still being really
28:29
funny. Yeah.
28:29
And I, we was telling you, I was like, it's interesting seeing
28:31
her so out of her element because it's very out of her
28:33
element. Like, you know, we know Terry
28:36
Joe to be very confrontational and like, quick and like, you
28:39
know, kind of cunty. But it's like now she's lost and
28:43
confused and she doesn't know what's going on.
28:44
She's scared. And it's like it's different,
28:47
you know what I mean? I like to think that that's her,
28:49
like even on live, like when I'm interacting with like these
28:53
people, it's the same thing. It's like this girl who's never
28:57
met this kind of person. Is meeting her kind of people?
29:00
On the Internet and saying crazy stuff to them, but it's like the
29:05
same concept really. OK.
29:06
Yeah, absolutely. And just putting into this world
29:08
and like making it this like scripted thing versus the improv
29:12
what you're doing on the live. Yeah.
29:14
And it was actually supposed to be Miami, actually supposed to
29:16
be California. But obviously that it's much
29:20
more expensive to shoot here. So did.
29:22
Y'all shot shot in Miami, Yeah. Oh.
29:25
God and stuff sweating because it was so humid or not.
29:29
Oh my gosh, that makes sense. We've got a bigger budget and
29:32
then we could shoot here in LA for the next.
29:34
One. Yeah, OK, well, the next one has
29:37
its plot already. Really.
29:38
So there's a sequel. Maybe OK.
29:44
We want more Terry Joe in every situation.
29:47
So with this movie and then filming this movie, obviously,
29:51
you know, you said it was quickish, like 2 1/2 weeks.
29:54
What was that process like for you?
29:55
I know you said you were nervous about it, but like, this is your
29:57
first time, like doing this something on this scale, you
29:59
know? Well, I literally just put like
30:02
I said, I'm like very good with the flow kind of person.
30:04
I just like put myself in situations and like just do it.
30:09
You're waiting. In yeah.
30:10
And I'm not a thinker because if I think I'm like a overthinker.
30:13
If I did think, yeah, so that was driving me crazy.
30:16
So I kind of just pushed myself into it.
30:17
We I just went there and then I was like, OK, whatever happens,
30:22
happens. And then I it was on set for
30:25
like 18 hours from 6:00 AM to tennis.
30:28
Someone who doesn't like working, you're like, wow.
30:30
Yeah, that was. And then I come with from like,
30:33
it's like cultural shock from like coming from like literally
30:36
doing nothing to being on set all day for two weeks and a
30:40
half. Did you like?
30:42
Were you like I didn't like this.
30:44
I hated it and and the time that I was doing it, no way.
30:47
Yeah, like I said, I hate working though in general.
30:50
And I literally was complaining the entire time to like
30:53
everyone. I was like, I hate it.
30:54
I hate it, I hate it, I hate it but with a smile and like still
30:57
doing the job. Still doing it Profound so.
30:59
Everyone knew I was like, joking, but they're like, I
31:01
promise you, like this is your first time doing it.
31:03
Like you're going to want to do it again.
31:04
And I was like, I'll never do this, but here I am wanting to
31:08
do it again. Interesting.
31:08
OK. OK, OK, so do you think you're
31:10
gonna hate it the second time though?
31:12
Oh. Yeah, well I would hate working
31:14
in general always so like. Any sort of any sort of effort
31:18
for me is something I don't. Want to not sitting on a rooftop
31:21
with a mimosa and I've your? Chilling's like like bougie
31:26
adjacent like my chilling's like what is my chilling?
31:29
I like. I just like to lay and like
31:31
stare at something I don't need like.
31:32
Well, yeah, I do that too. Yeah, mostly.
31:35
But I, I like to be out, like I said, I like to be out doing
31:37
stuff. So.
31:39
OK, that makes sense. So you're and you're presenting
31:41
soon for the Glad War, Yes. Well, I haven't got that much
31:44
information on it yet, but I guess that's what I'm doing.
31:47
OK, well, that's fine. Yeah.
31:48
And then, OK, so we're talking about it like if you're going to
31:50
go off and go out as yourself and then hoping about being
31:52
perceived, like, do you feel like you're more comfortable
31:55
just as Terry Jo in general then?
31:57
Sometimes, yeah, I mean, in my normal day-to-day life, that's
32:01
like, fine. But when I'm like performing,
32:03
I'm having to do something like this.
32:06
It makes me feel a little strange.
32:11
Like it makes me feel like, I don't know, like, like I'm
32:15
performing and not like I'm being me.
32:17
But like I said, I'm getting better at it.
32:19
I'm getting better at being comfortable in front of the
32:20
camera or like being. I mean, just being yourself
32:23
right now, too, Yeah. You know, Do you think that's
32:26
easier or harder? It used to be harder, but now
32:31
it's getting easier to do it, which is strange.
32:34
Like just it's not hard to be yourself, but.
32:37
You know what, we proceed and also have like cameras on you
32:40
and having to talk like that. It is.
32:42
I mean, I'm an attention whore so I fucking love it personally.
32:45
But either way, maybe a little deep down I am as well.
32:48
Because if you weren't like, why?
32:50
Why wouldn't you be doing this? Yeah.
32:52
Do you think you're like introverted?
32:54
I think what is the the the the lot of it.
32:57
The both of them omnivore. You're you're.
33:01
You're you're introverted extrovert.
33:04
Yeah, OK, My natural state is introvert, but I could be
33:09
snapped into extrovert very quickly.
33:10
Me too, I tequila I offered you some before this.
33:15
Yeah, well, I would like actually be in her sweating if I
33:17
did that. OK, alcohol makes me so hot,
33:20
really hot. I'm like I just how do?
33:22
You and then move the wig too. That's.
33:23
Gonna be hot and the wigs are like synthetic.
33:25
So it's like there's like so much like netting and like
33:28
fibers and in my head is where I create the most heat.
33:33
Wait, I have like an off question like I'm genuinely
33:35
curious about this because I think Tricia set is so bright
33:39
and there's so much more lights there.
33:41
And then when you're in character, like, was that super
33:43
uncomfortable? No.
33:45
Was it comfy's? Yeah, it wasn't like hot or
33:47
anything. I and I couldn't even really see
33:50
the lights. Actually.
33:51
I wasn't really paying attention.
33:52
All right. I feel like I'm like, like I
33:56
just did this like a spot. What is it not Spotify, Snapchat
34:00
thing as well? Yeah, that I could feel those
34:03
lights like on me. I was like, Oh my God, it's like
34:05
so hot. Interesting.
34:07
I got like these lights. They don't feel like I can't
34:10
feel the heat from them. Me too.
34:11
They're like, I love being under the lights.
34:13
That's my favorite thing. Like anything, Anything that
34:15
gives me attention, I'm like. Put me there.
34:18
A million percent. Like I'm like, I'm like a deeper
34:21
than an intention horror. Like I'm like, I don't even know
34:24
what would that even do? Whatever that is.
34:26
Yes, I love it. I eat it.
34:27
I eat it. I'm like, oh, lights are on.
34:30
Brett was testing these new lights yesterday and it was
34:32
like, Ryan, just be careful, I'm going to turn the light on.
34:34
It's going to be bright. And I was like, I'm so used to
34:36
it. Turn that shit on.
34:37
Shit was bright. But like, turn it all the way.
34:40
Up. Turn it all the way up, point it
34:41
right at. Me.
34:42
You're like blowing out and then you can only see, like your
34:44
eyes. Yeah, pretty much.
34:46
It felt like that, that that was indeed bright.
34:49
But yeah, if we can turn all the cameras actually just on me.
34:52
Yeah, that would have. 3 angles on me.
34:54
We'll just do a voice. Right.
34:56
You're just being called tough. Yeah, like benevolent.
34:59
I'm like Jesus. Yeah, exactly, Terry.
35:02
Joe would love. That yes, okay, She would not.
35:04
That would be blasphemy. Blasphemy, of course.
35:06
Yeah. Yes.
35:08
Also, is it Charlie? Is it okay that if I was
35:10
homophobic or should I clarify that?
35:12
No, it's perfectly fine. I am homophobic but like I don't
35:15
want anyone to be offended by that like.
35:18
No. I'm the glad awards are going to
35:21
see this and be like you're. Actually.
35:22
Not coming anymore. So then our hangout is cancelled
35:27
essentially. We'll post after.
35:29
Okay, we'll glad award carpet picture.
35:33
Both of us, Yeah, right here. Oh God, my picture's probably
35:35
going to be horrible. Oh, Getty hates me.
35:37
I look terrible. I do not know what's end of the.
35:39
Train. I don't even look at mine.
35:41
I can't. I that's the one thing I accept.
35:43
I accept everything. But like that one, I'm like, if
35:45
it's up there, I look and I'm like, OK.
35:47
And I will fully face to him. I don't care.
35:50
You, you won't do it. You're just like.
35:51
Fully. Well, I was the poster.
35:53
I was just face to him. I don't care.
35:55
Same. Fuck it.
35:56
Y'all want to see the original? Go look it up.
35:58
Go look it up. If you're going to be on my
36:00
page, I'm going to give you what I want to look like, yeah.
36:03
It's the fantasy over here. Period.
36:05
Exactly. And it's it's my social.
36:07
That's what the fuck I want. I'm a face.
36:08
Tune well, I don't face tune that.
36:09
I mean, I don't like do that much, but I definitely will.
36:12
Oh no no no if you guys listen y'all have you AB my Getty and
36:15
what I post you're like you catfish ass motherfucker.
36:20
Well, I feel like in my head, I'm like, even like Vogue,
36:25
they're retouching. They're retouching.
36:26
They're not like just putting on RAW photos 100.
36:29
Percent or like a singer. It's not like just like straight
36:30
from Mike onto the track, you know what I mean?
36:32
Like, there's a lot going. On I need to retouch.
36:35
This is what we love about entertainment.
36:37
It's like, and that's what I like about it too.
36:38
So it's like, yeah, we'll just play fantasy.
36:40
Fuck it. Literally yes.
36:42
So we'll have a really clear picture here.
36:45
We're gonna. Do for like, oh, we're really
36:48
Nash. Are you walking the carpet as
36:51
Terry? I'm no, no, no as myself.
36:53
OK, as yourself, have you walked in as Terry before?
36:55
No, I've never been to anything as Terry.
36:58
That wasn't like. Intentionally for.
37:00
Terry as Terry, Yeah, got. It got it, got it, got it.
37:03
OK, I was going to go to my. Oh, I did.
37:04
I didn't. I was going to go to my release
37:06
party for the movie as Terry. I went as myself and then
37:10
changed this to Terry. Yeah.
37:12
And then stayed like that for the rest.
37:13
Of the. I like that.
37:14
Yeah, that's smart. Well, I had to like do some this
37:18
stuff, but of course. There's so much that goes with
37:20
everything, to be honest. So how is it like transitioning
37:24
from, you know, doing the lives and interacting with brand new
37:26
people? I'm just kidding.
37:26
We what you're. Like how is it like
37:29
transitioning? I'm like from Alta FEMA.
37:32
Oh my God, Charlie. Well, how was that?
37:35
It was. Great.
37:36
Yeah, Yeah, it was still a work in progress.
37:38
Yeah, of course. I.
37:38
Mean you. You're passing.
37:40
Yeah. We're not invited to the ladder.
37:43
We're they're like, never mind, just stay home.
37:47
Stay home, low key happily. I've been I.
37:50
Oh my God. I leave the break I need.
37:52
A break. Oh my gosh.
37:53
I was literally telling Charlie I was like, can I have like A?
37:57
And I opened my e-mail and like a bunch of things populated in
37:59
my calendar and I was. Like I would cry actually.
38:02
I mean, I love it. I live here and I prayed for
38:04
this. So my friend, do you know Sophie
38:06
Powers? She's a singer.
38:08
She's amazing. 7 Sophie Powers No, she's an amazing singer.
38:12
She's an incredible artist. She showed me her calendar and
38:14
she was booked out for like 4 months and I was like, I want
38:16
that. And now that I have that, I'm
38:18
like, I'm like, oh bitch, I'm like.
38:21
Oh yeah. Just like maybe not for
38:25
literally because then Vita texted me last night.
38:27
She was like, did you still want Sunday like me come over and
38:29
organize your apartment? And I was like my one quote UN
38:32
quote day off, but we're also editing with Brett and I was
38:34
like, oh God. I don't think I can I.
38:38
Mean, I told both of them I was like, if you guys let me just
38:41
veg out and you both work in my vicinity, come over.
38:45
But yeah, how much downtime do you like realistically have?
38:49
I would say like 95% of my time is down.
38:52
And you love it. I zoom.
38:54
You love it. Yeah, well, 95 was crazy.
38:57
I was like 80. OK, that's a lot.
38:59
Well, yeah. I feel like I have like 4%
39:02
downtime. I do not like working.
39:04
It's not something I like you're.
39:05
Probably really healthy though, because I feel like I get so
39:07
I'll so frequently because I'm like going all the time.
39:10
I need vitamin C. We need to get that y'all.
39:12
I'm we were drinking a medicine ball right now.
39:13
Actually it was just like like 2 weeks ago and my voice has not
39:15
come back from from it since. I was also sick 2 weeks ago and
39:19
I was still not. Like, I'm not gonna do I have
39:22
laryngitis. No, I think.
39:24
There's a chat CBT this morning and they're like you should see
39:26
a doctor if it's been 2 weeks. I'm like, I was like, I'm
39:29
scared. Like I think that's there was
39:32
one time that's happened to me once before in like 2022 and now
39:36
my voice is gone for like 5 weeks and I was like.
39:38
OK, but it came back. Yeah, but it's gone.
39:41
Because I feel like my invoice is gone right now.
39:42
I'm really trying to warm up because I'm recording after
39:44
this, but I'm like, it's not. I mean, I kind of, I kind of
39:47
feel like this is close to my normal voice.
39:49
Yeah. Everyone was sick, though,
39:50
because two weeks ago, Charlie was sick, Brett was sick.
39:53
I was sick. I mean, it's super healthy.
39:54
She wasn't sick, but everyone, everyone was sick.
39:57
My manager is sick right now. He was supposed to come.
39:59
I. Mean Maybe it's the weather
40:02
because it was like cold. That's what someone told me
40:04
someone was like, it's probably just the weather.
40:05
I'm like my fucking. Or maybe they're pumping out
40:08
diseases. They're ready to get rid of us.
40:10
Yeah, they're ready to get rid of us.
40:12
And you know what? Go for a.
40:13
Girl I need A and I said get rid of them a. 100% they've had it.
40:17
They're finding out too much. 100% Oh my God, they don't want
40:21
us talking on here. They don't want us to disclose
40:24
who's our current enemies. Who are our current enemies?
40:27
I don't have enemies, right? They're like, yeah, I feel like
40:32
that's energy that you have to create to like, have someone
40:36
like that you hate or have enemies.
40:37
Yeah, you don't want, so that's more work for you.
40:40
Exactly. And more work.
40:41
We hate work. So no, I will not be.
40:44
I'll make time. Yeah, it'll make time to hate a
40:47
little bit. Oh my God.
40:49
I literally will. I literally was telling Charlie
40:51
I was like giving A to do list and I was like, and the smear
40:53
campaign for this person, lower priority.
40:56
Still on the list, though. Still on the list.
40:58
Absolutely. I'll give.
41:00
I'll make time for that for sure.
41:02
OK. So do you see, like, the Terry
41:04
Joe character becoming a franchise?
41:06
Like, what are you expecting? What are you hoping for?
41:08
Yes. Am I head the map of Terry Joe
41:11
currently? Yes, is more movies.
41:14
Obviously Terry Joe this Terry Joe that Terry Joe does.
41:17
We should do Terry Joe Wigs. Like to sell them?
41:21
Yeah. Maybe in the future.
41:24
Wait, have you seen people with Terry Joe for Halloween?
41:25
Yes, you should make Terry Joe like actual costumes and like,
41:28
yeah, yeah. That's a possibility.
41:32
OK. And I want to cut of that
41:33
royalty, Yeah. OK, OK, OK.
41:36
I don't, I don't know. I like, I'm, I don't know.
41:39
I'm like I said, I don't think I'm I just, I'm a doer rather
41:42
than a thinker. I think I used to be a thinker
41:45
and I'm like, I'm like, let's just get on this shit, yeah.
41:47
I like to have people think for me.
41:49
Me too. Please I like to keep the my
41:54
thoughts and my energy and my brain for creativity.
41:58
Creativity. Yes, literally.
42:01
It's like a lot of brain power to Co write.
42:06
Yeah, that movie. Though I mean, like you said, it
42:07
was really intentional too. Yeah, the way that you went
42:09
about the. Movie yeah, there's like lots of
42:11
like random hidden layers of stuff in there, but so.
42:15
It's a rewatch that we need to keep watching to catch.
42:18
Well, it's not that, I mean. Yeah, we're gonna rewatch.
42:21
Everyone rewatch. Everyone rewatch.
42:22
Yeah. Rewatch it 40 times if you have
42:25
to. If we have to, yeah.
42:27
I'm gonna do it right after this, Yeah.
42:28
Before we hang out, yeah. But that's like next week, not
42:33
next Thursday, no, Yeah. It is next.
42:35
It's the 5th. Yeah, I'll see.
42:37
Actually supposed to be in New York for something, but really.
42:39
Yeah, but we. This works out better.
42:42
No travelling, yeah. True.
42:44
Slight. Work, but I do have to do work.
42:46
Like. A slight well the New York thing
42:47
was for work too, but I do hate the flights to New York I.
42:52
Have a long one. I will only go to New York.
42:54
I hate travelling, but I will only go to New York or LA.
42:56
Yeah, but I live in LA, so. Have you been to Hawaii?
42:59
No, I haven't. Have you?
43:01
Yeah, it's a flight like. I've been twice.
43:03
Yeah, I've been twice. It's like 5 hours, 5 hours from
43:05
here. So you really love like relaxing
43:07
and stuff? Yeah, yeah.
43:10
But Hawaii is so pretty and like, it's like, it's fun too.
43:13
And the food is really good. Well, yeah, I don't really like
43:16
sitting on planes either, but if the I.
43:19
Don't like that happened either, you know.
43:20
Yeah, I don't. Like, I will literally take my
43:23
suitcase, throw it down. I would be living on my suitcase
43:25
in my apartment like I would never.
43:27
I'm back. That is, that's why I wanted me
43:29
to come over 'cause I'm like, my apartment is such a tornado
43:32
right now. Shit is everywhere.
43:33
And I was like, literally just come over, help me organize
43:35
again, like, 'cause I'm like. I'm fine.
43:38
I just throw my clothes everywhere.
43:39
Well not everywhere. My like living room is like full
43:42
of my clothes. My living room, my office, my
43:44
bedroom is like that right now. Like it's just, I literally
43:47
spent so long this morning looking for this fucking hat
43:50
because I was like, where the fuck did I put it?
43:51
And it was like under so many clothes because it's been it's
43:54
it's been exactly that. Yeah, you know what I mean?
43:56
Like, yeah, it's. Chaotic. 100% So we're going to
44:00
fix that this weekend, but. That's the life of a working
44:03
girl. Though thank you.
44:04
Literally it is the life of a working girl, but I also want to
44:06
be like someone who can come home and be like peace, you know
44:09
what I mean? But it's like so chaotic, like
44:11
everything's everywhere. I've like so much my shit out,
44:14
but whatever we'll get it to. That's the personal problem.
44:16
Personal problem. But anyways, so I ask every
44:19
guest that comes on the show and Terry Joe is obviously the most
44:21
delusional bitch ever. But what is your most Lulu take?
44:26
What do you think is the most delusional thing you think you
44:28
believe? Could be funny, serious
44:30
conversion, controversial, anything.
44:33
I think the thing that I said earlier is my most delusion, but
44:35
I feel like it works. Tell me like, do we need it?
44:39
Huh. Winging it.
44:39
Yes, like I in my head, everything is going to work out
44:44
because it will and it does because.
44:46
I'm not delusional because that's entirely true.
44:48
I've noticed that for me too, yeah.
44:49
Even a situation is a stress or anguish and, like, it works out.
44:52
Yeah, I look like I'm like that worked out.
44:54
And even if it doesn't work out in the way you wanted it, it
44:56
still works out. I think the worst thing that
44:57
could happen to you is like dying.
44:59
And if you're not dying, then everything's fine.
45:03
I agree with you, everything always works out.
45:05
Yeah, I just think like being delusional in general about
45:08
everything. You just have to be yeah,
45:10
especially for what we do like not to make it about like
45:12
entertainment, everyone genuinely, no matter what you
45:15
want to do, like if you just fully believe it and have the
45:16
conviction, just like fuck it, like.
45:18
And then everything can't fall into place.
45:20
It always. Does it has to?
45:22
I mean, I feel like if you're like literally just walking
45:23
around and being like, I'm this is happening and this is fine,
45:26
this everything's fine. And I.
45:28
Eventually, yeah, you will feel fine and eventually everything
45:32
will be fine. Absolutely.
45:33
And the more you repeat it, the more you're going to start
45:35
looking for it too, in your real life and the patterns and
45:37
everything like I do that. Obviously, it's not like the
45:40
easiest thing. There was times where I was
45:43
driving for Amazon and like, I wanted to crash that car into a
45:46
wall. Well, girl, yeah.
45:49
But then like like I said, I just like still telling myself,
45:51
like everything. Well, this is everything is.
45:54
Fine, you went from wanting to Kulu to telling other people to.
45:57
Kulu exactly. And you have the platform to do
45:59
it now, now. I can do it on a larger scale.
46:03
There you go. Look, all those lives that
46:05
you're changing. Exactly.
46:06
Yeah. All those lives that I'm ending.
46:09
What if I you want? What if I?
46:13
That would have been You wouldn't even feel sad.
46:16
Oh my. Publicist is like don't talk
46:17
about that I. Wouldn't have wanted that shut.
46:21
Up. Oh my God, I actually do.
46:24
It's also like a confront you on camera on my show.
46:27
Imagine. Oh, I would have haunted your.
46:29
Ass haunted your ass. OK, well, you know what?
46:32
I got to confront you, so maybe I will now.
46:34
Yeah. But either way, I don't even
46:35
know. What do we would take?
46:36
That was pretty good. I'm pretty.
46:37
I'm pretty much exactly in the same boat.
46:39
Like everything works out, everything always works out.
46:42
Loves it, loves it, loves it. Yeah, OK.
46:44
Because when you're a good person and clock it, put out
46:47
good karma. Clock it.
46:49
Literally. It comes back when it was a
46:52
joke, obviously. Obviously, I mean, it came back.
46:55
You're on the show now. Exactly.
46:56
Yes, everything. Comes full circle.
46:59
Full circle that's actually the first week I moved to LA that
47:02
week it was like the third day, fifth day I had no furniture
47:05
went to TikTok pride. I forgot where it was.
47:06
It was somewhere in LA, of course.
47:07
And then it. Was up the street from here,
47:09
actually it was that. You're right, it was like by the
47:11
Palladium. I forget the name of that
47:13
building. It's like a fancy one.
47:15
It's like the gym or the the. New, new house.
47:19
New house, NEUE house. That's right.
47:23
Yeah. The scene of the crime.
47:25
But yeah. Up the street full circle for
47:28
sure. Yeah.
47:29
Like like literally just moved to LA.
47:31
Literally just moved to LA. I don't even think I lived here
47:33
at that point. Oh, you're just like there for
47:34
the Yeah. I think I was just visiting.
47:37
Wait, did they have a tick tock pride this year?
47:39
I don't think so. Oh.
47:40
OK. I was like if they didn't invite
47:41
me. Well, I haven't been to it since
47:43
that one. I don't think they actually had
47:45
one. They had ones that happened.
47:46
Here they're oh, you're right, Clock clock.
47:50
Oh my God the Glad Awards are like this.
47:52
Broad No, no, you're not even gay at this.
47:54
Point. I'm not an ally.
47:55
You're straight. Yes, exactly.
47:57
Yes, exactly. I'm a huge ally.
47:59
I support you. Yeah, and.
48:01
What do you mean? Me.
48:03
Oh, because you're you're an Efsler.
48:06
Oh no, not you. I am black and it is Black
48:11
History Month not. The black.
48:13
Car this. Episode's coming out in March.
48:16
It is Woman History Month. Right now, every turn.
48:20
To a woman like this is insane You.
48:21
Don't have nails, but I don't think that makes you a woman.
48:25
OK, I'm putting. On a witch, I'm just.
48:30
A lot of people actually think that I actually am trans.
48:33
Actually. That's crazy, Really.
48:34
Well, that's true, yeah. When I first started going live,
48:38
everyone thought I was like trans.
48:40
So you're not. Maybe.
48:42
Who knows what the future will? Be love, not for you.
48:44
So we're reinvited to the GLAAD Awards.
48:46
Yes, because now I am transitioning.
48:48
Now you're part of the full time and like I said, I'm an ally to
48:51
you and your choices. Yeah, OK, with that being said,
48:56
this has been so much fun. Yes, we close out every show by
49:00
manifesting together. Yes.
49:01
Does anything you want to speak into existence for yourself to
49:04
rejoe? Anything more rest?
49:07
Yes. More.
49:09
More. Nothing.
49:09
More nothingness, the billions. Definitely more.
49:14
More movies, more fun times. See more Happy.
49:18
Times. Well, I I think that I do.
49:21
I do like the outcome. I do like having this.
49:26
Like I'm, I'm very much like that's, you know, means to an
49:28
ends. Like I'm like, I don't care if I
49:29
suffered, if I get the results I want, I'm cool.
49:31
You know what I mean? Well, definitely that, but
49:33
without not like in like the working out form, but whatever.
49:39
I don't like work obviously, but I do like the outcome of the
49:42
work. I do like the arts that comes
49:44
from 100%. So yeah, more movies, more fun
49:48
times, more happy times. I'm climbing all that too.
49:50
Health and wealth and all those things.
49:53
Honestly, the health one's so big for me right now 'cause I've
49:55
been getting sick so frequently. Yeah.
49:57
And I'm like, that's like my now I'm like, damn, I'm really
49:59
prioritizing health like. Yeah, no, I, I literally just
50:04
started being able to take like Advil and like time in my head.
50:07
Like that stuff doesn't work really.
50:09
It works so well. Yeah, now I know that it does,
50:12
kind of actually. Huge health kick right now.
50:14
Like, I'm like pretty much only eating salads.
50:16
My producer, he's obsessed with Airwan.
50:19
He's been in the Airwan's movies everyday.
50:20
I'm like, you know, that's like 48 grams of sugar and it's
50:23
insane. I would go crazy.
50:24
I, I can't, I can't watch him do that to himself.
50:28
It's crazy. But like, I'm really on a health
50:29
kick right now so and I hate saying that.
50:31
I feel so LA about that. No, I think that's a very LA
50:34
think about all of my friends. Let's do hot yoga when we hang
50:37
out. I'd rather die, honestly.
50:41
I literally would rather die. OK, fair enough.
50:44
We'll hang out with those and then we'll move forward.
50:47
Oh my God. But there's a big party.
50:50
This this podcast was I love LA. Like this is what I feel like
50:53
everything we're talking about, it's just so real.
50:56
Yeah, I just got into the show. Like I just started watching
50:58
like this week. So I'm like, wait.
51:00
It's so good and. I don't even like watching
51:01
things but I was like damn it I wish I was on this.
51:04
I think I've had that same like bug.
51:06
Like I cannot focus on anything like TV or movie wise but I did
51:12
watch. I love it and I loved it.
51:13
Yes, Oh my God, literally exactly that.
51:16
Like I was, I'm I don't even have time, you know, and and the
51:19
Terry Jones movie. I made it.
51:21
Like, yeah, we watched that too. I did.
51:24
I told you. I told you in depth before
51:26
research filming about the sex scene.
51:28
Yeah, that's true. I had watched.
51:30
Yes, I had seen it. Great sex scene.
51:34
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
51:36
For the movie, yes. I don't know if the filming of
51:39
it was. Right, great.
51:40
I mean that I feel like filming a sex scene would be
51:43
uncomfortable. Personally, having sex is
51:44
uncomfortable for me. So like I got.
51:46
It well, I don't do that. I'm a Christian.
51:47
Same, I'm also a Christian. And you'll cross necklace that
51:51
makes. Sense Exactly.
51:53
And this is not necklace, not for Terry Joe.
51:55
This is because I'm a godly. Woman.
51:58
Yeah, exactly. I can tell it radiates off of
52:01
you. Thank you.
52:03
It's like just the holy aura. Yeah.
52:05
Right, right, right. It sounds like you're saying oil
52:08
like holy oil, but. That too.
52:11
Yeah. Yes.
52:11
I feel like Terry, Joe and I are like sisters.
52:13
Yeah. Maybe you guys should like make
52:15
out the sisters I. Don't know if Jesus would like
52:18
that. Yeah, maybe he would.
52:20
I'd be down. Yeah.
52:24
Bring her over. Like, why not?
52:26
It would be for Jesus. Yeah.
52:29
OK. Jesus would approve.
52:30
Yes, here are two Christians in a union. 100%.
52:34
That's beautiful. That is beautiful.
52:36
We'll do it in the church. Yeah.
52:37
OK, love. OK.
52:40
Well, this was super fucking fun.
52:41
Thank you. Seriously.
52:42
Thank you so much for coming. No, thank you for having.
52:45
Me. I know you came.
52:46
Early to your full time I. Have some of you don't like
52:48
doing things so you should yes, no so I.
52:50
Appreciate do do it. You do do.
52:52
And I did enjoy it too. Really.
52:54
Yeah. Was this your favorite podcast
52:55
you've been on? Yes.
52:58
One of talk too. Yeah, talk too.
53:03
I'm not. Yeah, that is funny.
53:06
It's comfortable. Yes, we.
53:11
Don't have a budget? No.
53:14
I mean, hers is like, really like this too, honestly.
53:16
Really. Yeah.
53:17
It's not like the fanciest thing.
53:20
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's a loose that drag.
53:23
No, no, no, I actually don't have a budget.
53:27
It's what I want to say. But this is budget enough.
53:30
I don't have any of this. I literally have a tripod and I
53:33
literally use my tableside lamps to.
53:36
My girl, fuck it. You don't need a buzz.
53:38
You don't need none of that. Save it from the movie.
53:40
Yeah, exactly. Save it from when Terry Joe goes
53:42
to Alaska. Yes.
53:45
Clock or Hawaii. You should just make it like a
53:48
vacation for you. Yeah.
53:49
Just be like we should just. Hawaii is really hot too.
53:51
Actually it's. Hot, then it really should be.
53:53
Alaska, it's like wet hot. Do Canada, Toronto.
53:57
Yeah, like in the tundra. What's tundra?
53:59
Is that like? Antarctica.
54:01
It's like Burr. Chili Oh my God, Antarctica and
54:04
I can like do happy feet 3A. 100 Terry, Joe Happy Feet.
54:08
Is there? 3 Happy Feet movies.
54:12
There's 2. They really be cranking those
54:14
bitches out. I love I.
54:16
Actually love Happy Feet, that's like one of my favorite movies
54:18
really. Yeah.
54:19
Oh my God, it's like so cute. That's what the next movie for
54:22
Terry Joe's inspired by this. OK, Fair.
54:25
Fair. Fair, fair.
54:26
We'll watch it. Like I told you earlier, we'll
54:27
watch Terry Joe do anything. Wait, did you ever think about
54:30
killing her? At one point, yeah, I was
54:33
thinking about it because just killed Terry Joe.
54:35
She's over it, Yeah, but no, I don't think she'll ever die.
54:38
Even when she dies, she'll never die.
54:40
She can never die. Exactly.
54:41
She's like. She's a mortal I fear, for
54:45
better or worse. For better, worse for you.
54:48
Yeah. Put that week on.
54:50
That's work. Well, it doesn't really feel
54:51
like it on the IT it's, it does feel like it when I'm doing it.
54:55
But at the same time it's also like I'm if I take a step back,
54:59
take my stuff out of it, I'm literally just like slapping on
55:01
the wig and saying random stuff lost.
55:03
Not that crazy. Ohh.
55:04
I'd rather be doing that than delivering for Amazon again.
55:08
OK, so percent I thought you gonna say rather be doing that
55:10
than this. I was like wait.
55:11
Ohh no wait bitch listen no that would be rude.
55:15
I said it in my head, but. That would be rude, but tell me
55:20
that was fine, yes. Fine, fine, fine, fine.
55:22
There was alcohol involved in that, so I can't be.
55:24
Honestly, completely fair. I was like Tony Charles.
55:26
Like I think that be a good icebreaker, and he was.
55:29
Like, yeah, no, I loved it. I love I cringe out here.
55:35
No, that shit's funny, but I think it's funny.
55:37
That shit's funny. Yeah, that's iconic.
55:39
I told people for years, Terry Joe told me to call myself.
55:42
Yeah, I like, actually like, actually like, not like on a
55:46
like literally to my face. You weren't the 1st I'm sure,
55:50
and I'm sure that won't be the last.
55:51
We're going to start a support group.
55:54
And I'm going to leave the people who Terry's are key line.
55:58
You don't want to go through this.
55:59
Yeah. 100% OH. I'm sorry.
56:02
Spooky. You see these orbs is Justine.
56:05
Here no. There's the budget again.
56:08
Oh, my God. There was one time I did this
56:09
other podcast and I was like, hungover.
56:11
And there was like little flurries flying around the whole
56:14
time. I was like this.
56:15
No, trying to catch them, really.
56:17
And the girl was like, are you OK?
56:18
And I was like, yeah, I'm fine. I'm perfectly fine.
56:21
That was crazy. OK Oh my God that is crazy.
56:24
Wait, so best podcast you've been on with this one?
56:26
Yes. Confirmed we all got to clip it
56:28
the best. Podcast I've been on today.
56:32
When you see the highlight, it's going to be best podcast I've
56:35
been ever stream. Delulu.
56:38
Ryan Liu. OK, well, you're my best guest
56:40
I've ever had today as well. So thank you so much for being
56:44
here and thank you guys for watching this episode.
56:46
I hope you loved it. This was your healthy dose of
56:48
delulu. So now you can go live your true
56:51
Elon. Thank you for being a guest.
56:52
Where can the besties find you? You can find me on social media
56:58
at Syconic, BSY Iconic. You could also find me on Tubey
57:02
and you watch my movie Terry Joe Missionary in Miami.
57:06
It's for free, so watch that. I did watch it for free with
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ads. Yes.
57:11
You can also find me in We hotel people to kill themselves.
57:14
So yes, either one of those three things.
57:16
And at the GLAAD Awards after we hang out.
57:18
Exactly, yes. That's where we can find Kelon.
57:21
OK? We love that.
57:22
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57:38
OK, we. Will pray for you.
57:41
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