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Green and Gold Brothers Episode 15 · Green and Gold Brothers

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SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to the Green and Gold Brothers Podcast, the place for all things Packers related.
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0:19
SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to the Green and Gold Brothers Podcast.
0:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm Cody.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm Zach.
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SPEAKER_00: First things first, just want to give a big shout out to all the followers we got here over the last week.
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SPEAKER_00: On last week's episode, we were just shy of 300.
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SPEAKER_00: And as of today, we're sitting at 383.
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SPEAKER_00: So thank you everybody who followed along and keep commenting on our stuff if you can.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: And let's uh let's keep this thing going.
0:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, really appreciate it.
0:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh injuries, like we start every well, sorry, let's talk about the Packers win first.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: That sounds good.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: Got ahead of myself there.
0:53
SPEAKER_00: Well, it does feel like forever ago, so I'm just so used to hitting injuries on our first uh bullet point every time.
0:59
SPEAKER_00: But our Green Bay Packers won another game, took down the Carolina Panthers 27-19 on Thursday night football.
1:07
SPEAKER_00: Feels good, man.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: I I love winning.
1:09
SPEAKER_00: For sure.
1:10
SPEAKER_00: And uh in this division, they gotta kinda have to keep winning.
1:14
SPEAKER_00: It's insane right now.
1:15
SPEAKER_00: I knew we thought going into the season it was gonna be uh a powerhouse of a division, and it's been everything.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: And then some.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: And then some.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: Just really excited to see how this whole thing kind of breaks down down the stretch here, and it's kind of up for grabs right now.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
1:32
SPEAKER_02: It's it's really crazy too, because as good as everybody is, there's there's a world where all four teams make the playoffs.
1:41
SPEAKER_02: There's also a very, very real world where only two do.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it kind of just depends on what happens.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: The NFC East was a big division that I thought was gonna be kind of the East, the West.
1:54
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, NFC West with the Seahawks, the 49ers.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: Thought that was gonna, and the Rams thought that was gonna be the big one that three teams might get in, and now it's kind of looking like the North might be that.
2:06
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see what happens.
2:08
SPEAKER_02: Long way to go.
2:09
SPEAKER_02: Like I said, there's there's so much that could happen yet.
2:12
SPEAKER_02: So we're excited to keep watching and hopefully keep stacking up these wins.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: We're the divisions also gonna end up beating up on each other a lot.
2:21
SPEAKER_02: They play each other quite a bit the last last half of the season here.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
2:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh Vikings and Lions, that was a good game last week.
2:30
SPEAKER_00: The Lions took down Minnesota and they got their first loss of the season.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see.
2:35
SPEAKER_00: There's wide open handful of division games left.
2:38
SPEAKER_00: But nonetheless, to injuries, Christian Watson was the big one this week.
2:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, kind of kind of a scary situation, but he made a heck of an entrance back into the game.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: And is he a superhero?
2:50
SPEAKER_00: He he's something, he's not human.
2:54
SPEAKER_00: Right?
2:54
SPEAKER_00: He kind of went down on a hell of a catch, by the way.
2:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: And it didn't look good right away.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: He kind of laid there.
3:01
SPEAKER_02: I thought he was gonna start making snow angels because his arms were up above his head, but initially I thought maybe he just got the wind knocked out of him, landed on the ball, landed hard, you know, on his side, and turned out to be a lot more than that.
3:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they took him in an ambulance to the local hospital, got x-rays done.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: Sounds like, you know, he was spitting up blood there for a little bit or coughing up a little bit of blood.
3:25
SPEAKER_00: I believe that's why they had to take him.
3:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was almost uh one of those things where you have to do it no matter what, because his comments after the game definitely made it sound like he wasn't wanting to leave, he wasn't ready to leave, and they said sorry, dude, we have no choice.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: So but he made a heck of an entrance back in, getting out of the ambulance and full pads.
3:44
SPEAKER_00: How about that?
3:45
SPEAKER_00: That was kind of cool.
3:46
SPEAKER_00: I saw a lot of memes out there, it's kind of like a WWE entrance, and I'm glad he came back.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: And the first play he was back, love targeted him and cracked me up a little bit.
3:56
SPEAKER_02: So he had a big catch on the last drive, too, basically sealed the game, and they did end up having to punt, but on I think it was third down, was it it was either just before or just after the two-minute warning.
4:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he he picked up the first down.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: Other than that, I think that was kind of the only big injury from the game, yeah.
4:14
SPEAKER_00: I believe so.
4:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh Zaire Franklin, he missed a second week in a row.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: The report came out last week.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: Was uh drawn a blank right now.
4:24
SPEAKER_00: Airline fracture in his shin.
4:27
SPEAKER_02: Not something I would want to deal with.
4:29
SPEAKER_02: No, he must have got kicked pretty hard at practice.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: Something kind of figured when he went from you know, full participant, no big deal, to they ruled him out basically Thursday night, Friday morning, yeah, two weeks ago that he was gonna miss the game.
4:44
SPEAKER_02: So figured it was kind of bad when that happened.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: It couldn't have been Trey Smack that kicked him.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: But other than that, I think we're we're going into New England.
4:57
SPEAKER_00: Fairly healthy.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:59
SPEAKER_00: Got a couple guys on IR.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: Sky Moore might be getting ready to come back here in the next.
5:04
SPEAKER_02: It should be soon.
5:05
SPEAKER_02: I think.
5:05
SPEAKER_02: Is this week four?
5:06
SPEAKER_00: It's week three or four for him.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: I think it's I don't remember.
5:12
SPEAKER_00: He got hurt in Dallas, I believe.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: Chicago.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: So this will be the fourth game.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: So he'll be ready to come back here soon.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: So we're getting some troops back.
5:23
SPEAKER_00: That's that's a good sign, and hopefully we dodge the injury bug here going forward.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: Knock on wood.
5:30
SPEAKER_00: We'll hop right into Carolina.
5:33
SPEAKER_00: The run game.
5:34
SPEAKER_00: We were both very hopeful that they might be able to get something going.
5:37
SPEAKER_00: Carolina was the league worst in rush de our run defense, I believe.
5:43
SPEAKER_02: I think that's three straight weeks of playing teams in the bottom five, and it's still non-existent.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they can't get it done.
5:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh the O-line pass blocking has been very, very good, in my opinion.
5:55
SPEAKER_00: Run blocking's actually been pretty decent.
5:57
SPEAKER_02: When you go back and watch the all 22, or at least you know, certain clips of film, there are holes.
6:03
SPEAKER_02: They are blocking it okay.
6:04
SPEAKER_02: There's definitely plays where I mean guys are chasing their their defender into the backfield as Jordan's handing it off.
6:12
SPEAKER_02: So by no means is it perfect, but there definitely are situations where it's gotten a lot better, and it's just a lack of guys executing from the running back position, and that includes Josh Jacobs.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know he's only in a second game back.
6:29
SPEAKER_00: I think as he continues to get going, it's gonna look a lot better.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: I think he's gonna take some of those plays and pick up an extra three, four yards on some of them, and some of them he might they might turn into explosives.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: But right now, nobody's really getting it done.
6:45
SPEAKER_02: No.
6:45
SPEAKER_02: Kirk Herbstreet did have a good comment when Jacob scored the touchdown when he was inside the five, the Packers were inside the five, and he kind of made a cut and then another jump cut into the end zone.
6:57
SPEAKER_02: Herbie basically said that's not a play that's really gonna jump out at you, but it's definitely a play where you missed having a guy that knows what he's doing, basically.
7:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was all him on that.
7:09
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
7:09
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if it was Marshawn Lloyd in that situation, he would try to bounce it, or just run straight into the pile and only picked up maybe a yard.
7:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
7:18
SPEAKER_02: So you had mentioned uh having him back.
7:23
SPEAKER_02: Could we potentially see him, or do you think a trade?
7:28
SPEAKER_00: It's hard to say.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: We've talked before about Josh Jacobs' contract.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: He's most likely gone after this season.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: I would put a lot of money on him.
7:38
SPEAKER_02: I would totally agree with that.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: Being gone after this year, just releasing him, you save money in the long run on it, and it's just he's getting to that age.
7:48
SPEAKER_02: And now you got stupid off-the-field stuff too, so yeah.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: I think his career in Green Bay after this season is it's probably done.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: You had thrown out Tony Pollard the other day.
7:59
SPEAKER_00: We had talked about running backs.
8:01
SPEAKER_00: I know Jonathan Taylor is a big name, and I just think the asking price is a little too high for Green Bay right now.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: I agree.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't think we have enough to give up for Jonathan Taylor, and it's sort of interesting.
8:10
SPEAKER_02: You see a lot of guys who are maybe plugged in is not the right word, but cover it sort of the same way that we do.
8:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh just the Packers in general, and they're basically saying that you know you gotta find a way to get this done.
8:24
SPEAKER_02: And I've seen some some mock trades saying, like, oh, we could get it done for trading our second and third next year, and then something else, and it's like, do you not realize that means we wouldn't pick until Saturday of the draft?
8:37
SPEAKER_02: That's just not Goody's way of I don't think that's gonna happen.
8:40
SPEAKER_02: Running the show.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: I think sorry, continue.
8:43
SPEAKER_02: You're good.
8:44
SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna reiterate that.
8:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't think we have the bullets to go get Jonathan Taylor.
8:49
SPEAKER_00: I think it helps.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: I I I'm with you.
8:52
SPEAKER_00: I don't think we're we we have the ammo to do it, but I think with the reports in the off-season, you know, leading into this season, sounded like we had made some phone calls.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: We had put in a preliminary offer, you know, before they had decided what they were gonna do.
9:11
SPEAKER_02: I think that was before the extension, or maybe that was because he signed it last year, so maybe I'm wrong on that.
9:16
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
9:17
SPEAKER_00: I just I think it's glut it's it's a good thing that Goody's having these conversations, and now you know you come to this situation where we're a week, week and a half before trade deadline.
9:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think so.
9:28
SPEAKER_02: It's before Thanksgiving.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: It helps to have those conversations early in the season because now they might circle back to our offer, and not that they're gonna accept it.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: I think the asking price has gone up significantly for them.
9:38
SPEAKER_02: I think there's teams that are maybe leading their division or have a better, I don't want to say better path, but just feels more complete.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: Might make more sense.
9:48
SPEAKER_02: Denver's one that uh they traded a first for Waddle, so they're kind of shooting with less too, but I think they have their first for next year.
9:58
SPEAKER_02: Um they they could be a team to watch.
10:01
SPEAKER_02: Cincinnati, I've seen, also don't have a first anymore.
10:04
SPEAKER_02: Like a lot of these teams, it's gonna be interesting.
10:06
SPEAKER_00: Minnesota, I've seen thrown out there.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: That would make sense for them.
10:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:10
SPEAKER_00: They got Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason, who they're both average.
10:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think if I'm Minnesota, we talked about Minnesota a lot.
10:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm getting a new quarterback first.
10:22
SPEAKER_02: That's what I would do.
10:23
SPEAKER_02: I would put all my eggs in the basket of maybe Justin Herbert.
10:26
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that would be a a big basket, but he's playing pretty pretty poor this year as well.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: Herbert could get him for a discount, probably.
10:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you could definitely make that happen.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: Daniel Jones would make sense for them.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: Kirk Cousins, maybe.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: Maybe somebody who's been there and done it and should have never let him plot either of those guys.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: Jones was there too.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is that is true.
10:47
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, back to the good guys, though.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, other names at running back.
10:51
SPEAKER_02: Uh Brees Hall.
10:52
SPEAKER_02: I don't think the Jets are gonna do anything with Brees.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: Raylan Allen.
10:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't think him either.
10:57
SPEAKER_02: I did see a report this last week, I think, basically saying they don't want to split those guys up.
11:02
SPEAKER_02: A name I did see in the last couple days here that initially was sort of a sticker shock, but then when you really kind of think about it, don't you don't even have to think that hard.
11:14
SPEAKER_02: It kind of makes sense, or it wouldn't be overly surprising.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm on the edge of my seat right now.
11:20
SPEAKER_02: Derrick Henry.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:23
SPEAKER_02: Baltimore's going nowhere fast.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're starting an undrafted rookie on Thursday against um, I forget who they play on Thursday, but regardless, undrafted rookie and Lamar's probably out for the year.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's on IR, most likely out for season.
11:39
SPEAKER_02: He needs surgery on his thumb.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: They're back up.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: Tyler Huntley's out for a significant amount of time.
11:44
SPEAKER_02: They didn't put a timeline on that other than significant.
11:46
SPEAKER_02: It's turf toe.
11:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it could hold him out for especially a running quarterback.
11:50
SPEAKER_02: Like that's that could be very damaging.
11:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I could see that actually, now that you mention it.
11:55
SPEAKER_02: I missed that one.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: He's I think he's 30.
11:59
SPEAKER_02: One or two years left on his contract.
12:02
SPEAKER_02: Pair him with Josh Jacobs, you're saying?
12:05
SPEAKER_02: Or regardless, just get Derrick Henry in Green Bay.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: I didn't necessarily have a full-blown plan as far as that goes.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: That's a good question.
12:13
SPEAKER_00: We don't need to dive super deep into that.
12:15
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I would be all for Derrick Henry.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: Been with LaFleur in his system back when LaFleur was in Tennessee.
12:21
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: He's a guy that if you don't block a defensive end, he can kind of just run through him, block him for you.
12:29
SPEAKER_02: So it would be a name that would make sense.
12:32
SPEAKER_02: Again, there's not a ton of traction.
12:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't think Baltimore's necessarily broadcasting that they want to get rid of him, but with how things are sitting, if you could get fourth or a fifth for him, you know, again, he's 30.
12:46
SPEAKER_02: Running backs typically fall off a cliff at that age.
12:48
SPEAKER_02: So he's a little different though.
12:50
SPEAKER_02: Totally agree.
12:52
SPEAKER_02: So that'd be a name I'd keep an eye on.
12:54
SPEAKER_02: And I would be ecstatic if that's what ended up happening.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that would be crazy.
13:00
SPEAKER_02: I think that would be one of the better ways to potentially fix that run game.
13:05
SPEAKER_02: And Tony Pollard, you had mentioned just a minute ago.
13:10
SPEAKER_02: If you look, I I was looking at a chart today, basically, was graphing players that break the most tackles or get the most yards after contact.
13:20
SPEAKER_02: Derrick Henry and Tony Pollard are almost identical.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, and it also sort of implies a lack of blocking, which Baltimore's interior is just as bad as ours.
13:30
SPEAKER_02: They've they're on like their fifth center and couple extra guards.
13:34
SPEAKER_02: Uh Tennessee's got one win.
13:36
SPEAKER_02: So these guys are doing a lot with a little, and it wouldn't really be asking them to do a whole lot different.
13:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: Another name I'll throw out.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: I I don't think I'll go anywhere.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: He's too young.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm just thinking of that Chargers backfield.
13:52
SPEAKER_00: You've got Kamani Vidal.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: I know his name's been thrown out earlier in the season.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: Keaton Mitchell, I believe, is there, and Omarion Hampton.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't think Hampton's going anywhere just because he's such a young player.
14:03
SPEAKER_00: Most likely.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: Vidal might.
14:06
SPEAKER_00: I know I've seen his name thrown out, like I said, earlier in the season by a handful of people as trade targets, but I think he kind of put him in the tier of you know that Caleb Johnson role that we already have.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't I just I want a guy that's gonna transform the run game that's gonna be like a Derrick Henry where somebody might make initial contact in the backfield, he's gonna break it and still pick up four or five yards.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: Or at least fall forward.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: That's kind of where I'm at.
14:32
SPEAKER_00: I feel like we have kind of like what Jacobs has done for us up until this point.
14:37
SPEAKER_02: He's only played two games, but but somebody that's done it would be really nice.
14:41
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: You know, we're at a point right now where we basically have a backfield of just guys.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: I want the guy.
14:48
SPEAKER_02: I I would rather make a swing even for an older guy in a Derrick Henry or Tony Pollard is late 20s, but somebody that has been there, done that, has been successful in the league, and can maybe give you some kind of juice rather than just going to get a guy.
15:07
SPEAKER_02: And not to take anything away from all these guys, they're all NFL players, they're all fantastic.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: Even as bad as Marshawn Lloyd has looked, he's in the NFL.
15:17
SPEAKER_02: He has been fantastic in his life.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't know about that.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm kidding.
15:21
SPEAKER_02: In the past.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: No, I I I'm with you.
15:24
SPEAKER_02: So not to take anything away from any of those guys, but if we're going to make a move, I think it's gotta be for a guy that could potentially have a very high floor where you know what you're gonna get.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: Not a guy who maybe this guy breaks out and has a phenomenal, you know, half a year.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's almost like an all-in move.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: The Bears just made one at defensive tackle.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: We made one last year when we got Micah Parsons.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: But it'd be dumb of me to say that our Super Bowl window isn't now.
16:02
SPEAKER_00: Like with Jordan Love being as young as he is and playing the way he is, Tucker Kraft's picking things up.
16:07
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself here, but it would be awesome if we made an all-in-move on uh a bona fide all pro.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: He's a guy that's done it for multiple years now and has proven that he he can do it.
16:23
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: So I I'd be I'd be all for getting Derrick Henry.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: Some people have mentioned offensive line, uh guards and or centers.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't know that that's the move.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: No, sure that has been the weak spot, but again, I don't know that we have enough to go get a a guy that's gonna fully move the needle.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: We're still waiting on Kevin Zeitler.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:50
SPEAKER_00: I know we've talked about that multiple times, but I just yeah, O-line just doesn't seem like a move we would make right now.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: We had talked about that earlier, too, where you're at the week eight point of the season.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: The teams that have good offensive linemen are not giving away for for cheap.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
17:07
SPEAKER_02: Even guys or teams that are struggling and are, you know, looks like the season's over.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: I saw Landon Dickerson's name from Philadelphia, the guard that's been thrown out there.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: Again, I mean, unless you give them Aaron Banks.
17:21
SPEAKER_00: If they'd be willing to take Aaron Banks.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: Correct.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: Like it just I don't know, it it doesn't really make sense to me.
17:27
SPEAKER_02: And that's just me.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I'm totally off, but not saying that it doesn't make sense because I think our guys are better.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: It's just we've thrown so many darts at the wall at the interior offensive line right now that I just I don't know that I'm willing to give up a lot to go try another one.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: Right?
17:47
SPEAKER_00: No, those guys are they're a hot commodity.
17:49
SPEAKER_00: Teams aren't giving them away for free or cheap.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: I think we kind of roll with what we got right now.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: We made moves earlier in the season to try to solidify the line.
17:59
SPEAKER_00: And so far, I mean, Lakin Tomlinson, he's he's been amazing.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: Yes, that has been a very, very underrated pickup.
18:07
SPEAKER_00: Off a practice squad, and we'll we'll still get a chance to see what Becton has to prove.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure we'll see Zeitler at some point.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: Sounds like he's ready to go.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: It's just Banks was their plan at left guard, and he was ready and healthy to go, and they moved Tomlinson to right guard because he's been playing very, very well.
18:25
SPEAKER_00: They couldn't take Tomlinson off the field.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: So Zeitler just sitting there waiting.
18:29
SPEAKER_00: And I think every week that we wait is it's better for him.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: He's getting a better grasp on the offense, getting more in football shape, just kind of waiting for his opportunity.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: So he's coming off of offseason knee surgery, too, and he's 36.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: So that's not something that you just snap your fingers and all of a sudden you're back in playing shape, especially on the offensive line.
18:52
SPEAKER_02: And then it's just real quick, another shout out.
18:54
SPEAKER_02: John Williams, I think has looked fantastic, almost to the point that I don't know that Sean Ryan gets his job back, at least right now.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's hard to say that injury.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: We haven't really gotten uh an update on it.
19:07
SPEAKER_02: He hasn't been put on IR, so I'd think they're they're thinking it's not super long term, but regardless, the way that Williams has played for especially for not having played it, he looks good.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he looks really good.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: It'll be really interesting to see what happens.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: I didn't even think about I figure once Sean Ryan was ready to come back, he would, but if you get that continuity over the next two, three weeks here and things are trending upward, I mean I hate to say it because we've thought this multiple times, even going back to to training camp with the kicking game.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: They had the continuity with the new long snapper and the holder and the kick.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: The kick the kicks were going through.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they they were long ones, the consistency was there, and then they mixed it up, and I'm not blaming that on Trace Mac's recent struggles here, but I don't know, it's hard to say what what they do once he comes back, Sean Ryan.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: That is so ri it's a good problem to have, regardless.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can go from you know having total question marks to now all of a sudden if you look at the names, you have guys that have real-time experience, and even even Travis Glover as a depth option, like you're gotta be feeling okay about that spot after maybe not just a few weeks ago.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: Definitely.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: Oh, hop back in to Carolina quick.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh defense.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: Star of the show.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they they want us the game.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: I want I mean, I don't want to say they want us the game, but they pretty much shut down Carolina.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: I know the score was 27 to 19, I mean, a little closer than it actually was, but I think for the most part, we contained their their two wide receivers.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: Chuba Hubbard had a pretty good game, but other than that, I mean their tight ends were shut down.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: We got off the field when we needed to.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: We got our turnover, we had six sacks in the game, which is it's amazing.
21:02
SPEAKER_00: So once again, tip your cap to the defense.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: Jonathan Galen Gannon's been doing some great things in Green Bay, and I just I see it continuing to trend this way.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: Sure hope so.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: It feels that way though.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't feel fluky.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: No, it doesn't feel fake at all.
21:17
SPEAKER_00: It feels like they actually have some momentum.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: He's kind of building something there in Green Bay.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: Can tell that the players are completely bought into it.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: So that's exciting.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: On offense, we didn't allow a sack.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: Our O-line was serviceable.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, serviceable.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: The I said it earlier.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: I feel like pass blocking has been something that our team has done really well as far as you know not allowing a ton of pressures in sacks.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: There have been a few games.
21:48
SPEAKER_00: I think the one game Travis Glover allowed like seven.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh against Minnesota week one, two, we allowed a crap ton of pressures.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: But I I think offense offensively.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: We put the ball in Jordan Love's hands again.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: That's kind of the way things are trending here recently, too.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: The run game's not working, and it's Jordan's team.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: Give him the ball, let him ball out.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: I love what Matt LaFleur said.
22:16
SPEAKER_02: Might have been Bill Bill Huber, or it was somebody that asked him on Monday about uh getting the running game going and why it's not working and what they can do to improve it.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: And Matt basically just said, Well, you guys wanted to see Jordan cook, so here you go.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: Let him do his thing.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: I think he's probably in the MVP conversation right now.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to get too crazy with it, but it's gotta be at least mentioned.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: He's leading the league in passing yards.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: He's had two touch two passing touchdowns in at least every game.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm fairly certain that's maybe I'm incorrect.
22:50
SPEAKER_02: I think there was one recently just had one.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: Was Detroit.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: Detroit might have just been one.
22:57
SPEAKER_02: Because I think they had a rushing touchdown.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm struggling to think back now.
23:03
SPEAKER_02: Detroit might have been one.
23:04
SPEAKER_02: But yes, otherwise it's been awesome.
23:06
SPEAKER_02: He's I think fourth in touchdowns.
23:09
SPEAKER_02: He's leading the league in passing yards, I think he's fourth in touchdowns.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: So absolutely.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, this is a guy that it's frustrating to have a literally zero run game to give him any kind of help and stupid drops that we feel like we keep talking about all the time.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: But Dallas.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: No, you're good.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: Detroit, he had two Dallas, he had one.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: My bad.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: I was mistaken.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: That I believe is the only one, though.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: Did he have a rushing touchdown against Dallas, the quarterback sneak?
23:41
SPEAKER_02: That sounds right, because I think he had two totals.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: So two touchdowns, two total touchdowns in every game this season.
23:47
SPEAKER_00: Didn't mean to cut you off there, I'm sorry.
23:49
SPEAKER_02: You're good.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just the fact that he's really not getting a ton of help.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: His offensive line, we've talked about a hundred times, the drops we've talked about about five hundred times, and the penalties and zero running game, and this dude just goes out and balls every week.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: Even more reason that he should be MVP worthy right now.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: With all those things you just listed, and he's still leading the league in pass yards.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: Completion percentage could be a little better.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Drops are a big thing though.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh, 100%.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: Interceptions, we've talked about on here many times.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't throw a lot of interceptions, but there's usually at least one or two throws a game that he tries to fit it in a tight window, or you know, he doesn't anticipate the defender breaking on it, and they make a really nice play.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: That one against Carolina had he saw something.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: I saw what he was kind of looking for, but he just underthrew it, and well, the defensive back undercut it.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: Came over top, or I can't remember exactly how.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: Are you talking Carolina or Tampa?
24:53
SPEAKER_00: He had one in Tampa, he had one in Carolina too.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: He had Matthew Golden.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: I wasn't sure which one you were talking about there.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh Carolina, I'm talking about.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: Okay, because that one, I mean, the safety, I my opinion, the safety didn't really do anything except go catch the ball.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: It was it was a bad decision and a bad throw, and he he owned it after.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: The safety stayed true to their assignment.
25:13
SPEAKER_00: Love threw it.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Safety, I'm not gonna say it was a great play, but definitely did what he was supposed to do.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: The ball came and he ran and got it.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: It is what it is.
25:24
SPEAKER_02: Which that one kind of that one hurt.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: It was frustrating because if they don't give the ball away there, they basically can end the game.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: If you kick a field goal, it's three scores with about six minutes to go, and it's essentially over.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: But they got the turnover and it they still won, so it's it's fine to look back on.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that one was one I think he has admitted he wishes he had back.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: So Tucker Kraft's another guy.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: I think he's been slowly getting this thing rolling.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: Stone on a year this week, I believe.
26:01
SPEAKER_02: Right?
26:01
SPEAKER_02: I think it was week nine last year.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: I think they had mentioned it against Carolina.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was eight or nine, yeah.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: Something like that.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: But just you can tell watching him, he's finally kind of getting his legs under him.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: He's breaking tackles, he's embracing that contact.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: He's completely bought into his role.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he was last year.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: He would have been an all-pro tight end last year if he didn't get hurt.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: So it's good to see him get going.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: Matthew Golden, Savion Williams.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's been a player here too who I've been excited about him.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: He's slowly making his mark as just that gadget guy for being 6'3, 6'4.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: It's not necessarily the guy you would think, but he did it in college.
26:42
SPEAKER_02: So I'm intrigued with him just being a pure receiver.
26:48
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's since he's come back just the last couple weeks, he's made some really nice plays in the receiving game down the field.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Like, yes, gadget guy, sure, and run the quick screen for him, and then that's a big guy.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: He reminds me a lot of Cordero Patterson, where you get the ball in his hands and he gets ahead of steam, and it's get out of the way.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he almost scored on that.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: Was it an end around?
27:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: And his burst, once he turned the corner, I thought he was in.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: The speed that he had, like, it jumped off the screen to me.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: I was very impressed with that.
27:21
SPEAKER_00: What else we got here?
27:22
SPEAKER_02: I like the urgency.
27:24
SPEAKER_02: They sort of ran some up-tempo.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh, not necessarily, you know, full-blown no huddle and quick, quick, quick, but it was definitely the real the the sugar huddle and the quick um, you know, play calls and and get up to the line.
27:41
SPEAKER_02: They they did it, I think, coming out of the second half or out of the first half, going into the second half, and it it looked fluid.
27:49
SPEAKER_02: It it looked like the it got them in a rhythm.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: And that's something that everybody feels like is always calling for, regardless of your team.
27:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously, Packer fans, yes, but I feel like you can go around and ask any fan base how do you improve our offense, and a lot of them are gonna be, well, we should run more hurry up.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: And I get it, it's fun, it it's exciting, it doesn't give the defense a chance to get set and make substitutions and stuff.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: But it's worked for us this year.
28:18
SPEAKER_00: I think we've talked about that multiple times, maybe off the podcast.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: There's been multiple times where they run a little quicker tempo and they pick up, you know, a third and short, or you know, second and if it's second and ten, second and you know what I mean?
28:35
SPEAKER_00: You pick up I feel like it's worked.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: You can't run a whole game that way.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: Correct.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: Because the flip side is your defense gives up points, and then you come out and try to run hurry up and incompletion, incompletion, incompletion, and then you're punting.
28:49
unknown: Yeah.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: Or even you know, you do complete it and you're short, and you go three and out, and you give the ball right back in a hurry.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: That's why Chip Kelly didn't last in Philadelphia.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: He wanted to be fast as fast could be, and his defense was on the field for 60 plays a game because the offense wasn't successful.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: And even even when they were, even when they did score, they scored so fast the defense didn't have any time to rest.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: So the defense was giving up points right away anyway because they were just out of gas.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I I like it a lot.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: The game plan here, the last I mean, even against Detroit, I know we lost that game, but I think Matt LaFleur has kind of dialed up some pretty good game plans here recently.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: Just putting the ball in Jordan Love's hands, trying to get that run game going.
29:34
SPEAKER_00: And I know he's he's trying his best.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: I know we all want it as fans, but if you don't think that he's sitting there trying to scheme up ways to get this run game going, I uh you're wrong.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: So definitely looking forward to just seeing seeing more of more of that up tempo a little bit in in times of need when you when you think you can catch the defense on their heels and yes um penalties as well.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: We wanted to mention that.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: Thought it was uh much cleaner game, much better officiated game for sure.
30:06
SPEAKER_02: Yes, much cleaner from the officials, and I was a little worried because that crew has been known for throwing a lot, and some of the more questionable ones, but it was pretty well officiated.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I don't really remember any crazy egregious ones where it's like, what are you looking at?
30:26
SPEAKER_02: For the most part, all the penalties that they did call were actually penalties.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: I think there was one on our second drive.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: We were on offense and they called a pass interference, I believe.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Matthew Golden was running the route.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: I think that was kind of ticky-tacky.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: We definitely got away with one, but there was contact.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: They might have even called holding, defensive holding on Carolina.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: But other than that, I thought it was very clean.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: They they let us.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to say we roughed up Bryce Young.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: There were definitely some plays.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, when you have six sacks, usually you can say one might have been a little egregious as far as like contact to the quarterback.
31:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:06
SPEAKER_02: But I think Oh, yeah, the I think Hopper, when he uh hit his arm and it was an incomplete pass, could have maybe argued it was high.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: Was waiting for it with as you know, traumatized as we've been with some of the crazy rougher roughing the passer calls.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, I was kind of waiting for it, but it didn't come.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: And that's kind of where I wanted to to sort of tip the cap to the officials in that one.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, it seemed like our game was the only one where they were good.
31:35
SPEAKER_02: The rest of the Sunday was pretty b awful, just uh just like it has been the rest of the year.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm a little more hesitant.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: I I will I won't tip my cap to them, but I'll give them uh like a sideways thumb, like neutral.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Like you you didn't do anything too stupid or call anything completely out of pocket, but they they did fine, I guess.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: So that's fair.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't, you know, groundbreakingly fantastic, but I'm just hesitant to give them credit because I know next week it's gonna bite us or somewhere down the road, but you're probably right.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: I think that kind of wraps up Carolina.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: We'll talk some studs and duds here quick, just a few players that we thought played very well, and some guys that once again just need to see a little more out of them.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: Tyrone Hopper, where'd this guy come from?
32:28
SPEAKER_02: I am not gonna go as far as saying I knew he was gonna be good, but he was a guy that I was very excited about once we took him.
32:39
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know a ton about him in college.
32:41
SPEAKER_02: Uh played at Missouri, not always on TV.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's an SEC school, but it's not one that gets all the the headlines and the They're kind of a bottom feeder in the SEC.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean they've yeah, for the most part.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: They've had some big wins and a few upsets.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: They're usually good, but yeah, it's kind of they're kind of middle of the pack.
32:58
SPEAKER_02: They kind of remind me of Wisconsin a little bit.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: They're a team that's usually better than people realize.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but they're still just that other team over there.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, but anyway, coming out of the draft, I thought he was very intriguing.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: He was definitely very toolsy, he had a lot to work with.
33:14
SPEAKER_02: He was big, he was fast, he was good in coverage in college.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, he also rushed a passer really well in college.
33:20
SPEAKER_02: So he was a guy that I was excited about after seeing, you know, the highlight tape and his his numbers and stuff.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Me too.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: I personally think I probably should have seen him a little more last year.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: We did have that a few conversations about that.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: That why doesn't Halfley like this guy?
33:40
SPEAKER_02: Because it seems like every time he's in there, he's doing something good.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: Like he's making a play, doing something not necessarily game-changing at the time last year, but he's making uh a good play, he's in the right spot, uh, he's definitely improved.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: He's just kind of been a special teams guy the last couple years here and come in when injuries happen.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: I think last year, last season, he had uh interception against the Bears and handful of other plays too when he has to come in, you know, when when a guy's out for a few plays, and he's looked serviceable.
34:17
SPEAKER_00: I I think he's gonna get a ton of just credit from elsewhere here soon, just the way he played last week, the way he played the week before.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: He got the only game ball this past week for Carolina, the win.
34:31
SPEAKER_02: And why is that?
34:32
SPEAKER_02: Because he did something, listen up, everybody, he did something that hasn't been done since uh Hall of Famer did it.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: He had a sack, an interception, and at least three pass breakups.
34:46
SPEAKER_02: That hasn't been done since one Charles Woodson.
34:50
SPEAKER_02: That's insane.
34:51
SPEAKER_02: This is a linebacker that did all that.
34:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
34:53
SPEAKER_02: The pick he basically made happen himself because he tipped it and then caught it.
34:57
SPEAKER_02: Obviously a sack, and then again, great in coverage, three pass breakups.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: He should have had four.
35:05
SPEAKER_00: I think there was one that Chuba actually hung on to, but he was right there.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, hand in the face along the left sideline.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he could have had four pass deflections, so then six tackles to go along with that.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: He's absolutely earning every bit of playing time he's getting, regardless of injuries.
35:22
SPEAKER_02: You know, obviously the first two guys are down now or were, but moving forward, I I think he needs to be on the field.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
35:31
SPEAKER_02: Love McDuffie, dude tackles everything that moves, he has limitations.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna just say if you have to if you have to cut some of McDuffie's snaps to get Hopper in there more, and I mean if you do that, eventually if he keeps playing the way he is, Hopper, he's gonna be that that starter.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna take all those snaps from McDuffie.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: Correct.
35:52
SPEAKER_02: Long term, potentially next year, you know, maybe the the new Mike, if you really like what he he shows the rest of the year.
36:00
SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't be that surprised at all.
36:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's the way he's looked, he's looked very, very well.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: So next guy, Jordan Morgan.
36:08
SPEAKER_02: You want to take this one?
36:10
SPEAKER_02: So, Jordan Morgan, um, I don't have it in front of me how many games it's been.
36:14
SPEAKER_02: He didn't allow pressure on Thursday.
36:16
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I believe I saw something that was talking about since week four, maybe it was, that he is one of the I think he's a top five left tackle according to uh Pro Football Focus, which again, I think we voiced our opinion on that.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: Kind of take that with a grain of salt.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, because I think actually, I think Hopper graded poorly.
36:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure I saw he was below average according to PFF this past week.
36:44
SPEAKER_02: Of course he was, and even though he literally did something that hasn't been done in years.
36:49
SPEAKER_02: Um so again, take that with a grain of salt, but he's been a top ten for sure, I would say, regardless of you know outlet you're looking at.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: Um he's he's getting better.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: And he looked probably his best on Thursday.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: So hopefully with just more time and better understanding of how to play left tackle.
37:11
SPEAKER_02: This is year three, but first year playing left tackle for him.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, year one locked down in that position.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: You had mentioned it before, too, being a left tackle, even a right tackle, you're gonna allow some pressures.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a really tough position to it's all about angles, it's all about, you know, if you get a guy that's a that's speed rushing you, you gotta be able to beat him to a spot.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: If you got a guy that's bull rushing you, you gotta be able to stand your ground, put your feet in the ground, and hold up to that pressure.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: It's it's a really tough position.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: He's going to allow pressures.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: But do those pressures turn into sacks?
37:42
SPEAKER_00: Do those pressures turn into sack fumbles?
37:45
SPEAKER_00: That's something he's kind of limited this year.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: So props to him.
37:49
SPEAKER_02: It's like a pitcher in baseball.
37:51
SPEAKER_02: I mean, nobody's gonna be perfect.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: Guys are gonna give up hits, they're gonna give up runs, but you just have to limit the damage.
37:56
SPEAKER_02: Weather storm.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: And that's that's I think a fair comparison for especially left tackles in the NFL that it's gonna happen.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: Guys, I mean, you know, you might go up against the Miles Garrett, Aiden Hutchinson, and then, you know, throw out another big time name three weeks in a row.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: Eventually, one of those guys is gonna get home.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: So you just have to figure out a way to limit it and and stay the course.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: So big props to to Jordan Morgan.
38:25
SPEAKER_02: I think this is what Goody had envisioned for him when they took him.
38:29
SPEAKER_02: Uh so far, so good.
38:31
SPEAKER_00: So absolutely.
38:33
SPEAKER_00: Christian Watson's our next stud.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: We talked about him earlier.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: Just love the energy he brings.
38:38
SPEAKER_00: He's wide receiver number one.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: The contract was worth everything that we gave him.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: He had eight catches for 113 yards.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: It probably would have been more if he didn't have to spend a quarter to half the game in the hospital.
38:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he had 100 yards in the first half before he got hurt.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: And he's a bona fide like deep threat.
38:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he can do everything, but just his ability to track the ball on a lot of those deep throws, which Love's been attempting more than any other quarterback in the league, and the the completion percentage on him, it's it's there.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: I he's he Jordan loves hitting the deep throws, and majority of the time it's to Christian Watson.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: So I don't think there's a lot more to be said there.
39:16
SPEAKER_00: Just excited.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, I haven't seen the injury report yet.
39:21
SPEAKER_00: Is there anything lingering there with him?
39:23
SPEAKER_00: Is he limited?
39:25
SPEAKER_02: I think he broke a rib.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: So it's he did mention yeah, they put some extra padding on.
39:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's probably gonna linger the rest of the year, if I had to guess.
39:33
SPEAKER_02: Nothing that should hold him out, though I wouldn't think.
39:35
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm thinking he's just gonna wear, like you said, a little bit more extra padding and we'll uh hopefully he doesn't get any kind of hard hits to to that area, which as a receiver that's asking a lot.
39:47
SPEAKER_02: But yeah if if anybody if there's anybody I trust to keep a guy safe, it's ten right now.
39:56
SPEAKER_02: So I think hopefully we're we're gonna be in good shape moving forward with him.
40:03
SPEAKER_02: Finally, this one is a hole for our studs.
40:08
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna go out to the group.
40:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh the pass rush.
40:10
SPEAKER_02: We mentioned earlier six sacks.
40:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh they were in Bryce Young's face all night.
40:15
SPEAKER_02: The scary thing.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: Micah's not even back yet.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: Soon.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: And we are we're top ten.
40:22
SPEAKER_02: It was must have been after the Thursday game.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: We were leading the league, but then everybody played Sunday, so they I think they dropped to six um in total sacks, but we have 22 on the year, which is pretty uh impressive for not having that superstar number one on the defensive line.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, credit goes to everybody on that D line.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: Guys that don't show up in the stat sheet all the time.
40:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh Carl Brooks, he's been phenomenal.
40:47
SPEAKER_00: Then I dent of sudden, he's been showing up every week.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: Every week.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: I we'll talk about it a hundred times on here.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: Don't know how he slipped to the fourth round, but love that he's on our team.
40:58
SPEAKER_00: Lucas Van Esse, I think he has four and a half sacks on the C.
41:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh Barron Sorrell got a sack finally.
41:05
SPEAKER_00: I think he got on the stat sheet with the sack last week against Carolinas.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: He looked good as a whole, too.
41:09
SPEAKER_02: He he played the run well.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh 99 was popping all over the screen on Thursday, so that was good to see.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh duds now.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: Get into a couple stinky duds.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: Trey Smack.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, again.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: He did bounce back.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: That's something we'll mention here.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: He missed the first PAT.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: I think it I think it doinked off the post.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: Uh getting sick of it.
41:33
SPEAKER_00: But his ability to bounce back and make the rest of his kicks from there on out was big.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: Shows that he can weather that storm, kind of push the negative out of his head and just go out there and do your job.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how much longer I can take.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: I I know it was only a PAT, but as you get into the the nitty-gritty of your schedule, you're gonna have to capitalize on the field goals.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be games that come down to three points.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be games where, you know, you gotta make something deep, and the weather's gonna get colder here in Lambo.
42:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's gonna be when he's on, he's on.
42:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't think the weather's gonna have a factor, but right now he's he's so 50-50, and it's just something that I don't I don't like.
42:18
SPEAKER_02: I would agree with that.
42:19
SPEAKER_02: There's definitely talk about uh I think we mentioned it last week, maybe facetiously, but you know, once you're across the 50, we're not kicking anymore.
42:29
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't want that to be the reality, but hopefully, uh like you said, hit him being able to bounce back will continue.
42:39
SPEAKER_02: And I did like, you know, he he missed it and he kind of maybe hung his head a little coming back to the sideline, and and Matt sort of, you know, pulled him aside and said, Hey, you know, you missed, you screwed up, but we need you, so let's go.
42:53
SPEAKER_02: Flush it and move on.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: And it was a little bit uh, you know, just from what you could see on the screen, was looked like some tough love, but it it got home because then he made I think it was the next three.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: I think he ended up three for four on the game.
43:08
SPEAKER_02: So that was that was nice to see.
43:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll just mention one more thing on that.
43:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh in the offseason, Goody had mentioned it, uh Matt LaFleur had mentioned it.
43:20
SPEAKER_00: When it comes to young kickers, you know, you have to be patient because it's it's a tough mental position to play.
43:28
SPEAKER_00: You miss one or two or three, it can start taking a toll on you, and next thing you know, I mean you're you're completely useless out there.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: So they're gonna be patient with this guy.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: I think if if you're sitting out there looking for us to they might bring a kicker in, they might you know try some guys out.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's gonna be a trade for a kicker at at this point with the comments they made earlier in the season and just kind of the support that Smack has had from the players and the coaches and the general manager, I think they're just gonna be patient.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: With them and kind of hope for the best.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: Live and die by it.
44:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, hopefully we I'm not gonna get into it.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: A tangent.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to go on, but um Coleman Owen is another guy.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: I think he we'll just we'll just mention his one blunder right away.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: The opening kickoff.
44:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fumbled.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh very frustrating.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: I think when Sky Moore's back, this guy's probably gonna be he'll probably be the roster move, yeah.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sent back to practice squad or maybe just released outright.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: I I like him.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: I like his upside.
44:33
SPEAKER_00: I like his he's he seems comfortable returning kicks and punts.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: He has picked up some decent chunks for us on on the punt return unit, but opening opening kickoff fumble is that's brutal.
44:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that I've I've witnessed either opening kickoff or you know, you you kick off and you get a three and out, and the other team has a punt, and then a muffed punt turns into you losing the game.
44:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:59
SPEAKER_02: I've witnessed that in person.
45:01
SPEAKER_02: I've seen that happen plenty, even in the NFL.
45:04
SPEAKER_02: It's not something you can do.
45:06
SPEAKER_02: You can't put the ball on the ground on special teams.
45:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh turnovers are going to happen.
45:10
SPEAKER_02: I feel like special teams are the biggest swing type of turnover.
45:16
SPEAKER_02: Make it or break it, usually I'm because you're either getting the ball back after a stop on defense, getting the ball back after giving up a score, so you absolutely don't want to give the ball right back.
45:27
SPEAKER_02: Or yeah, it's starting the game or starting the half.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: Those are all huge momentum swings that if you give them the ball can totally change a game.
45:35
SPEAKER_02: So can't happen.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he showed same thing, the kind of the uh the ability to bounce back.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: He didn't fumble the rest of the night and seemed like he was kind of carrying that ball like it actually meant something to him the rest of the night.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: You could tell he he learned.
45:49
SPEAKER_00: And Marshawn Lloyd's our last dud.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: It's getting to the point that this guy legitly could be the roster move for Chris Brooks when he comes back.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: We talked about it a few weeks ago, and that's kind of where it's looking.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: I know he's explosive.
46:05
SPEAKER_02: I know he's you know fun to watch in the pass game, or at least we're hoping he could be fun to watch in the pass game.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: I think that's where he flourishes.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: If you put him in out in the open field, you know, a screen, uh a little swing pass, just a check down.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: I feel like him in the open field, that's kind of where his his skill set thrives.
46:27
SPEAKER_00: And that has looked good.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: He's done that well.
46:29
SPEAKER_00: But right now he's his vision's atrocious.
46:32
SPEAKER_00: Non-existent.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: It's happened.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: I I can recall at least five or six times already this season, where there's a hole for a man, a human man, to run through, and he kicks it outside for two, three, zero yards.
46:49
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, negative two, negative three zero yards, and you know you're just freaking scratching your head, like what the heck did he see there?
46:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know if it's you know too much trust in his ability, which you hate to knock a guy for that, but at the same time, you're not gonna hit that home run every play.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: It hasn't worked at all this season.
47:08
SPEAKER_02: Correct.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: You you need to have three to four yards in the running game.
47:14
SPEAKER_02: We've talked about that at length on this podcast.
47:18
SPEAKER_02: And off.
47:19
SPEAKER_02: You need to have positive yards in a run game.
47:23
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't need to be 60-yard touchdown every time you touch it.
47:28
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
47:29
SPEAKER_02: Because it's not gonna happen.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: I know, I know, I know.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: I wonder, this is just something that popped into my mind now, and it's probably not real, but I'm just gonna bring it up.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: I wonder if his injury history kind of has some second guessing, because you hit that hole, next thing you know, you got a linebacker meeting you dead to rights, and he's not a big guy.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: He's put together, but he's short.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just I wonder if he's got some hesitation there, kind of getting afraid to take that extra contact from a linebacker rather than maybe bouncing outside and only pick up two, three yards, but then you're out of bounds.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: Now you're not taking that extra that extra hit.
48:05
SPEAKER_02: Plus the potential of linemen rolling up on defensive line.
48:10
SPEAKER_02: I could yeah, I could see that being somewhat of a factor, maybe even, you know, subconsciously.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he just doesn't realize he's doing it.
48:18
SPEAKER_00: It's just he makes that move to the outside, and you know, I I don't know.
48:23
SPEAKER_00: That's just something I thought of.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: So very interesting thought.
48:26
SPEAKER_00: Might be onto something.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:28
unknown: I don't know.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: New England.
48:32
SPEAKER_00: Next opponent coming up here.
48:34
SPEAKER_00: Sunday, game of the week.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: 325.
48:36
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
48:37
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a good one.
48:38
SPEAKER_00: New England, they I don't want to say barely scraped by Miami, but it was kinda it was a pretty ugly game.
48:44
SPEAKER_00: Miami had an opportunity to get the ball back.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: They attempted an onside kick.
48:49
SPEAKER_00: New England got it.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: Game over.
48:52
SPEAKER_00: But Miami has been pretty bad if you're following the NFL.
48:55
SPEAKER_00: They're a younger team.
48:56
SPEAKER_00: They they're they're in the rebuilding process right now.
48:59
SPEAKER_00: Full blown.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: They got rid of anybody important.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: And they just took the the AFC champ that was in the Super Bowl to, you know, they took him to the limits.
49:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, one score game, and they had the lead in the second half in that one.
49:14
SPEAKER_02: And New England, I didn't watch a ton of that one, but what I did see, they didn't look very uh efficient.
49:21
SPEAKER_02: They didn't look super great.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, I know Drake May is phenomenal talent, uh, definitely was worth the draft pick.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: He's he's got really good numbers this year, 1900 yards, 15 touchdowns, and eight picks.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: So he's he's right up in that top ten range as far as numbers.
49:38
SPEAKER_02: Um he's a guy that can beat you with his legs as well.
49:42
SPEAKER_02: Ton of respect for Drake May.
49:44
SPEAKER_02: The thing that helps right now, you know, unfortunately, is his receivers are hurt and Hunter Henry got hurt, the tight end.
49:55
SPEAKER_02: So he's throwing to the third and fourth guys on the depth chart as far as receivers go.
50:01
SPEAKER_02: Um again, it helps us.
50:03
SPEAKER_02: It's unfortunate.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: Injuries are part of the game, we've lived it too.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we've got our own we're dealing with.
50:09
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, not gonna make it be used as an excuse.
50:15
SPEAKER_02: He definitely wouldn't do that himself.
50:17
SPEAKER_02: So it's just it's interesting.
50:19
SPEAKER_02: Um definitely does help our chances, makes me feel a little bit better.
50:23
SPEAKER_02: Romeo Dobbs signed there in the offseason, big contract, and then he got hurt.
50:28
SPEAKER_02: He's on IR, so no chance of him playing this week.
50:31
SPEAKER_00: AJ Brown's kind of up in the air.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: I know he had that high ankle sprain that he dealt with the first four weeks of the season.
50:38
SPEAKER_00: Got hurt week one, first game of the season, got put on IR, came back.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: He's been struggling with drops himself.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: And then last week against Miami, he was ruled out.
50:50
SPEAKER_00: Reports are he's limited at practice, but there's no official ruling, so he might be out.
50:56
SPEAKER_02: That's uh also a 30-year-old receiver.
50:58
SPEAKER_02: And I mean, we're both in our 30s and not professional athletes, and can tell you straight up that it takes longer to heal, and your body feels it a lot more the older you get, and he's a guy that's done it at a really high level, but maybe that's catching up with him.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: Father Time's undefeated.
51:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: So other than that, I Travion Henderson was out for him too, one of their really good up-and-coming running backs.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: Ramondre Stevenson, he's good.
51:27
SPEAKER_00: I've got him on a few fantasy leagues, and I've been playing him, and he's been putting up decent numbers.
51:31
SPEAKER_00: But if you can find a way to kind of make Drake may be one-dimensional in the past game, you mentioned earlier, he has eight picks throughout the season.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: Going into the ninth game.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: So I think there's gonna be an opportunity or two where he's gonna throw you a ball that you got to catch.
51:49
SPEAKER_02: Especially for a team that we are number two in the league in interceptions.
51:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think our defensive backs, I think our wide receiver should maybe take some tips from our defensive backs because I think we've only had one, maybe two dropped interceptions on the year.
52:02
SPEAKER_00: But that that's kind of where I think it's gonna go.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: If we can get pressure like we did last week against Bryce Young, I'm not saying we need six sacks.
52:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:10
SPEAKER_00: But if we can get Drake May out of the pocket, kind of flustered a little bit, maybe throw us a one or two, I really like our chance chances on this one.
52:19
SPEAKER_02: I believe their offensive line is still pretty banged up too.
52:22
SPEAKER_02: So that definitely helps when you're dealing with a team that, or doesn't help, I should say, from New England's perspective, uh, dealing with a team that can get pressure with just four, yeah, which we have been recently.
52:35
SPEAKER_02: Carolina, they didn't blitz a lot.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: Like we we got those six sacks, and I think most of them obviously Hopper had the one that we mentioned, but otherwise, I think the rest of them came from the defensive line.
52:46
SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't like Gannon was sending all kinds of blitzes because it wasn't working, it was just the the down four that we're getting home.
52:53
SPEAKER_02: So if you can do that again against a team with a banged up offensive line, getting pressure with four is huge.
53:00
SPEAKER_00: It's something that we've been banging the table for for years now.
53:04
SPEAKER_00: Every defensive coordinator will tell you absolutely.
53:07
SPEAKER_00: Um kicks too, make your kicks like the PATs, just make the PATs.
53:13
SPEAKER_00: I I'd be fine going for it on fourth down, you know.
53:16
SPEAKER_00: If we're past the 50 and it's it's a fourth and short, fourth and four, four, fourth and five, go for it.
53:23
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I know it's I know it sounds stupid, but you got a kicker right now, and not that you want to get in his head and kind of make him think that you don't trust him in that situation.
53:33
SPEAKER_00: But true, if you've got a play call dialed up and you get a look and you know the defense, New England's defense is coming out and a look that you can take advantage of, go for it.
53:42
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
53:43
SPEAKER_02: That's I feel like Matt's been pretty aggressive.
53:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I feel like our fourth down go rate has been pretty high.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: A lot higher than in years past, I know that.
53:53
SPEAKER_02: And I am all for it, even when it doesn't work.
53:55
SPEAKER_02: You know, everybody will second guess it when it doesn't work.
53:58
SPEAKER_02: It's not going to work every time.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: But the fact that he has been willing and has done it, I think it does help too, having the defense that you do, that you feel okay that if you don't get it, your defense can bail you out.
54:14
SPEAKER_02: So that obviously plays into it as well.
54:16
SPEAKER_02: Whereas maybe last year and some of those situations where you were hoping he was going to and he didn't, I think maybe was potentially lack of trust in the defense.
54:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh this year I don't think there's much of that.
54:29
SPEAKER_02: So hopefully that keeps up as well.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: As far as offensively, I I'm keep doing what you're doing, in my opinion.
54:37
SPEAKER_00: Keep trying to get the run game going, but don't like marry yourself to it where you know you you feel like you have to get an explosive here and there and there.
54:46
SPEAKER_00: Just let Jordan Love cook.
54:49
SPEAKER_00: He's been doing great.
54:50
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna have Watson, Golden, Kraft, Savion.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: Even Jay Michael Michael Sturdevant had a heck of a catch against Carolina.
54:57
SPEAKER_00: The ball was by him, and he caught it.
54:59
SPEAKER_00: So just yeah, keep doing what you're doing on offense.
55:02
SPEAKER_00: I think we win this game.
55:03
SPEAKER_00: I think New England, they've been up and down this season.
55:07
SPEAKER_00: Them almost losing to Miami kind of has me feeling good about our chances here.
55:11
SPEAKER_00: So it's a week-to-week league.
55:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, anything can happen.
55:15
SPEAKER_02: They beat Buffalo this year, too.
55:17
SPEAKER_02: So it's hard to say, but I'm with you on that.
55:21
SPEAKER_02: We had it as a win originally.
55:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm sticking with that as well.
55:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:26
SPEAKER_02: Road game, gonna be tough.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: They play well up there in New England.
55:30
SPEAKER_02: Weather's not a factor.
55:31
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
55:31
SPEAKER_02: Looks like it's gonna be a beautiful day.
55:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh they are playing okay.
55:37
SPEAKER_02: I think we're playing a maybe a little bit better.
55:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, I know we're one and one in our last two, but the Detroit game, you could argue, was one or two plays away from being a win.
55:49
SPEAKER_02: I thought we actually played pretty well in a loss in that scenario there.
55:52
SPEAKER_02: So I think the last couple weeks, small sample size, I know, but I think we're playing a little bit better at this point in time.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: Uh hopefully getting a little healthier too than what New England is.
56:06
SPEAKER_02: Um, and kind of leading right into that, where we got some news probably this week, I would say, that is pretty exciting.
56:14
SPEAKER_02: We finally have positive Micah Parsons news.
56:18
SPEAKER_02: Sounds like he is going to start practicing this week, meaning they're going to open his 21-day window.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: So for those of you who don't understand that, what that means from the day he starts practicing, whether that's tomorrow or the next day or the next day, whenever that actually starts, they have 21 days from that particular moment to activate him to the active roster.
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SPEAKER_00: Is it 21 business days?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I just made a joke.
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SPEAKER_02: 21 days in a row.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
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SPEAKER_02: Dumb.
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SPEAKER_02: Funny, but dumb.
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SPEAKER_02: They have 21 days to make a decision.
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SPEAKER_02: Either he practices for those three weeks and they say he's not ready and then he's done for the year, reverts back to injured reserve, and then he's just out.
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SPEAKER_02: That's not gonna happen.
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SPEAKER_02: Um it's just gonna be a matter of when, not if.
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SPEAKER_02: They activate him.
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SPEAKER_02: Sounds like the goal right now is week 12 against the Rams, the Thanksgiving Eve game.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh I would said to you before we got started, if we didn't have a bye week 11, I think it would be realistic that he would have played that week.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But we're gonna be off, so I don't think, you know, obviously that's not not an option.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you get that extra week of rest.
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SPEAKER_00: So you open the window now, then you have next week against Minnesota.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, that buys is gonna give him a little extra time.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it that's it's it's perfect timing.
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SPEAKER_00: So I guess I'm I'm super excited about it too.
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SPEAKER_00: It's the guy that's gonna add so much to our defense.
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SPEAKER_02: The game changer for a defense that has been playing really well.
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SPEAKER_00: They asked Jonathan Gannon today, I believe it was.
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SPEAKER_00: I saw this quote.
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SPEAKER_00: How often do you think about like what Micah Parsons could add to your defense and every day or all the time or something like that?
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: It was basically, yeah, he he cannot wait.
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SPEAKER_02: I've don't know that he would come out and say it, but I have a fairly strong feeling whether it was the only reason, the sole reason, but Micah was a huge reason why he took this job.
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SPEAKER_00: As it would be for oh, absolutely coordinator.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I get to use this Swiss Army knife that nobody has proven they can block consistently.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure, sign me up.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll take it.
58:30
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