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7-20-26 Hour 2 World Cup Reaction · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to Spain for winning its second World Cup. What
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Speaker 1: a squad. They got a dynasty working over there, young
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Speaker 1: old their system, everything works. They dominate Argentina yesterday, dominate
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Speaker 1: And I know it's only one nothing, I get it.
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Speaker 1: The score doesn't indicate that. But when you're up twenty
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Speaker 1: shots to nothing at the end of regulation time, that's domination.
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Speaker 1: Most so Spain did it? Spain deserved it, Spain is
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Speaker 1: the World Cup champion. Felt bad for Lionel Messi, but
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Speaker 1: oh well, I do have to ask you, well.
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Speaker 2: You know, Victor, I was thinking about this real quick.
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Speaker 3: Let me jump and I apologize, but I think for
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Speaker 3: me because I don't follow soccer super closely, and I
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Speaker 3: follow my team in the EPL now and I'll turn
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Speaker 3: on some games and I'll.
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Speaker 2: Watching this sort of thing. But it's the spectacle of
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Speaker 2: it all.
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Speaker 3: And really, when when do you get the opportunity to
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Speaker 3: have the world come together. I know, the Olympic Games,
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Speaker 3: I get that, but the os are some team things there.
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Speaker 3: A lot of it's individual stuff, you know, for your
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Speaker 3: sprinter or your biathlete or what I mean whatever, But
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Speaker 3: it's the whole spectacle of the World Cup where the
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Speaker 3: entire planet literally is enthralled with what the hell's going on?
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: And I love those days. It's like the first parts
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Speaker 3: of the of the World Cup. For me when the
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Speaker 3: games were on at ten am or it's like I
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Speaker 3: had weeks of the NCAA tournament all the time, kind
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Speaker 3: of you know, and it was it's fun, it's great.
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Speaker 1: You know what it was. It was a great void
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Speaker 1: that's been filled in our sports menus. It's it's been
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Speaker 1: a month of action that otherwise, what the hell were we.
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Speaker 3: Gonna do for the last month? Well, we can watch
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Speaker 3: Jesse screw up again during a commercial break.
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Speaker 1: What were we gonna do for the last month. That's
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Speaker 1: why I want to thank the World Cup for filling
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Speaker 1: that void and doing it so brilliantly. I watched a
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Speaker 1: lot of those games. They were fantastic. A lot of
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Speaker 1: people said a lot of people predicted that the Cup
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Speaker 1: here in North America would fail miserably, stadiums be empty,
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Speaker 1: nobody would show up. Well, guess what, you were all wrong.
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Speaker 1: They were sellouts everywhere. There was excitement everywhere all the
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Speaker 1: way up until the final game. People were into these
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Speaker 1: games and it was the biggest in terms of attendance,
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Speaker 1: the biggest Cup of all time. It was awesome. Hey,
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Speaker 1: so I do want to ask you this, after watching
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Speaker 1: the way the games were presented, what is it from
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Speaker 1: the World Cup that you would like to see carry
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Speaker 1: over to I don't know American sports. Is there anything
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Speaker 1: that they did in the way they did these games
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Speaker 1: called these games produced these games that you would like
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Speaker 1: to see on an American level with our games.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that that's the case. I will say this.
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Speaker 3: I was talking to my sister yesterday about this Believe
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Speaker 3: or Not It's Crazy and.
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Speaker 2: Brother in love Bond. I thought the panel was pretty
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Speaker 2: damn good. I don't know who.
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Speaker 3: The blonde woman is who was running the show, The
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Speaker 3: English blonde woman what's turned You guys would know her name.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Rebecca Low, Yeah, that's who it is.
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Speaker 2: I thought she was excellent.
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Speaker 1: I thought so too.
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Speaker 2: I thought that I thought that she.
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Speaker 3: Keeping control of those three massive superstar type of uh
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Speaker 3: soccer player, well two of them anyway, massive superstar ego
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Speaker 3: type of things.
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Speaker 2: I thought. And I'm talking about the main panel with all.
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Speaker 3: Ree and Laton and Lawless, and there was some you know,
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Speaker 3: sniping back and forth and whatnot. But I thought that
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Speaker 3: she as a host and as a manager of that set,
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Speaker 3: I thought she was outstanding. The entire tournament taught me
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Speaker 3: a total pro and I really never I don't think
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Speaker 3: I knew who she was before that, but I thought
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Speaker 3: she was excellent.
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Speaker 1: One thing that the World Cup in soccer in general,
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Speaker 1: FIFA whatever, one thing they do that I love and
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Speaker 1: that I wish American sports would embrace. And it drives
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Speaker 1: me freaking crazy. How's this for a novel concept? But
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Speaker 1: game starts at eleven? How about you start the game
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Speaker 1: at eleven?
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Speaker 2: Why is it at.
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Speaker 1: Every game on these international levels starts on time? But
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Speaker 1: we play a NHL game, an NBA game, an NFL
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Speaker 1: game and it says, I don't know, two o'clock kickoff,
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Speaker 1: and we don't kick it off till two thirteen. Why
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Speaker 1: is it on an NHL Thursday night on Amazon Prime
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Speaker 1: or on ESPN and it says eight o'clock start for
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Speaker 1: the Avs and we don't get going till eight forty two?
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Speaker 1: What is so hard? Why in this country do we
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Speaker 1: struggle with starting games on time? Is punctuality that different?
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Speaker 1: I don't care what else is going on? I don't
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Speaker 1: care if it's going up against another game, I don't
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Speaker 1: care if the game in New York is still in progress.
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Speaker 1: Let's start the game on time.
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Speaker 2: Well, you're right about that. I found out the hard
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Speaker 2: way early in the tournament, maybe day one or day
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Speaker 2: two or something like that, where I was bouncing.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, oh, it's gonna it's almost you know,
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Speaker 3: eleven o'clock or whatever. Blah blah blah blah. I'm bouncing
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Speaker 3: around doing this and that. And I get in and
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Speaker 3: I'm I turn the TV on andout a at like
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Speaker 3: five after the game's already five and a half minutes in,
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Speaker 3: Like there, No, I know, but I mean they're going.
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Speaker 2: They're they're not waiting for jacks. They are going. They're like, Hey,
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Speaker 2: golf doesn't right? World Cup does it right?
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Speaker 1: When there's a tea time, it's on time? Why is
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Speaker 1: it in the United States, in all of our sports,
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Speaker 1: we can't get games going when they're supposed to get going.
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Speaker 2: What are we doing?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Hey, why is it? Why is it
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Speaker 3: they want Jesse you you know about soccer? Why is
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Speaker 3: it they walk out with kids? What's what's that all about?
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Speaker 2: I've never known that. I was wondering the same thing.
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Speaker 3: I mean, everybody's walking out with kids. It's like, hey,
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Speaker 3: it's per daycare time. And then you know or I don't, VIC,
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Speaker 3: do you have an answer to that. I don't know why.
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Speaker 3: I'm not against it. I just don't know why they
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Speaker 3: do it. So there's some things about it that I
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Speaker 3: don't understand that I don't you know, I don't get
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Speaker 3: I don't dig.
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Speaker 1: But you know, NFL is on time, Vic, No, it's not.
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Speaker 1: The NFL's not on time. Some games are on time.
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Speaker 1: Not all NFL games are on time. Watch what happens
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Speaker 1: during the course of the season. Watch what happens. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: games starts at two fifteen, right, two twenty five, What
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Speaker 1: happens to the first five minutes of that game? You
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Speaker 1: have the announcers come out, they're solid.
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Speaker 2: You know what.
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Speaker 1: The games in the morning start on time. Those are
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Speaker 1: the ones. The eleven AM games very much on time.
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Speaker 1: After that, who knows what the hell you're gonna get.
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Speaker 3: Well, the NHL, what they've done, VIC, is they they're
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Speaker 3: trying to stagger starts now and clearly when you have
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Speaker 3: the when you have ESPN and TNT and they have
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Speaker 3: their national windows, they're Games of the Week type of
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Speaker 3: thing on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Each respective network. They stagger
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Speaker 3: because they if they're paying that money, they want to
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Speaker 3: be one of the only games going on, certainly in
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Speaker 3: the US. Okay, so then you'll have to stagger the
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Speaker 3: starts of other games to allow their window to kick
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Speaker 3: off where they're the only game on for a while,
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Speaker 3: and then you can do your games too, so I
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Speaker 3: can see. I mean, listen, network's paying big money for
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Speaker 3: broadcast rights, have a lot of say and when game
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Speaker 3: start and you know, and and how it goes down great.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mind them making their money back.
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Speaker 1: That's fine. Commercial you know, that's what we do for
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Speaker 1: a living. We have to sell commercials. Just stagger it
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Speaker 1: so it's on time. It bothers the heck out of
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Speaker 1: me when someone says the games at eight o'clock and
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Speaker 1: it's actually eight thirteen. That's always bothered me. And I'm
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Speaker 1: in the television business. I'm on this side of the fence,
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Speaker 1: and that bothers me. The other thing about the World
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Speaker 1: Cup that others should entertain perhaps is three to two
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Speaker 1: two three rights in on the text line. And we've
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Speaker 1: heard this already. The campaign from NFL players the natural grass.
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Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me in the meadowlands yesterday
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Speaker 1: they played that game on natural turf, and they went
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Speaker 1: out of their way to make sure the soccer players
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Speaker 1: had natural turf. But now that the Giants and Jets
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Speaker 1: are getting set to play football in that same stadium,
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Speaker 1: it's back to astro turf. That's what's happening.
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Speaker 3: If I know, it's more cost prohibitive to have regular
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Speaker 3: grass all the time and to try to keep it up.
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Speaker 2: Hell, I mean, you see the Denver Broncos. What do
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Speaker 2: they spend you know, four.
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Speaker 1: Hundred thousand dollars each year at the halfway market.
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Speaker 3: They they spend four hundred grand minimum to replace all
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Speaker 3: of the turf because it gets beat up. Because again,
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Speaker 3: football is different than soccer. You got guys running around
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Speaker 3: and blah blah blah blah blah. Football guys are going
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Speaker 3: onto the ground and the elements lead to grass being
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Speaker 3: chewed up, snow, rain, gigantic bodies colliding and digging in
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Speaker 3: with their cleat. It look like you know, kiss rock
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Speaker 3: concert shoes, You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Like you understand in the summer, right, So the World
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Speaker 1: Cup games took place in the summer, grass is green.
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Speaker 1: Good luck trying to keep that turf working in Kansas
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Speaker 1: City in December, right, good luck. Right, it's virtually impossible. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's just a different deal. So I understand the argument
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Speaker 1: from the other side. Yeah, yeah, we can grow grass.
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Speaker 1: It's June and July. It's a lot easier to get
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Speaker 1: that turf going.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got you want grass, you want games
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Speaker 3: to start on time, and what else do you want?
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Speaker 1: You know. I like the way they employed var very quickly,
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Speaker 1: and they just showed you that the rest of the
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Speaker 1: world got to see everything. Sometimes when we do the reviews,
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Speaker 1: the replay reviews, we see the review and we're still
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Speaker 1: trying to judge whether or not it's a catch. But
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Speaker 1: at Vaar it's right there. It shows it's the offsides
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Speaker 1: or not.
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Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I mean, don't you think it Soccer
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Speaker 3: lends itself a little bit.
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Speaker 2: More easily to that.
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Speaker 3: Sure, I guess in the NFL would be the same
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Speaker 3: kind of thing. Are you offside with the VR? I mean,
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Speaker 3: you know, is it an offside call or whatever? But
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Speaker 3: there are so many more rules involved in football and
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Speaker 3: in hockey that that it's you know, it's hard to
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Speaker 3: it's not always black and white, just because of the
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Speaker 3: nature of the games themselves.
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Speaker 1: Five six, seven eight. I think we should carry over
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Speaker 1: the refreshment in orange slice break to all our North
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Speaker 1: American sports we already.
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Speaker 2: Have we do.
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Speaker 1: Those are commercial breaks.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're if you're at an NFL game, and
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Speaker 3: this always cracks me up, and they go to commercial break.
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Speaker 3: What happens during a commercial break?
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Speaker 1: VIC tell everybody, what do you mean?
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Speaker 3: What happened during the on the field during a commercial break?
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Speaker 3: What happens in the stadium on the field, everybody, everybody,
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Speaker 3: everybody stands around. You get fifty people running off the
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Speaker 3: sideline with water bottles, okay, and orange slices and.
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Speaker 2: What squirting literally squirting.
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Speaker 3: Into the wide open mouthains of players, Like ah, like
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Speaker 3: a player. The next time I see a player actually
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Speaker 3: pick up a water bottle and squirt it into their
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Speaker 3: own mouth, I'm gonna be shocked. But I mean, you've
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Speaker 3: got you' that's what happens. So you have your little
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Speaker 3: hydration breaks all the time. Hockey you have obviously two intermissions,
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Speaker 3: but on the bench, guys who grab water bottles and
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Speaker 3: they're orange slice and all the time it happens all
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Speaker 3: the time in a hockey bench.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna happen here. And we've talked about it before.
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Speaker 1: MLS is gonna turn its schedule around to match the
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Speaker 1: world soccer schedule. And I think it happens after this season,
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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Jesse.
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Speaker 3: After this season, After this season, they're gonna go to
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Speaker 3: like a uh what they're calling a sprint season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, quick season, and then it's gonna match
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Speaker 1: the world schedule.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So the rest of the world plays soccer August to May,
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Speaker 1: except for here in the United States. We do it
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Speaker 1: the opposite. And it's going to change.
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Speaker 2: And how do they how.
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Speaker 3: Do you do.
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Speaker 2: How do they do it in Russia?
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Speaker 1: How do they do it in Norwy?
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Speaker 3: How do they do it in Well? I don't know
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Speaker 3: that there's a Norwegian soccer league. Is there, like some
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Speaker 3: big Norwegian I'm sure there probably is.
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Speaker 1: Well, they probably play indoor.
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Speaker 2: Because you can't play all winter long in Norway. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: It's not exactly tropical in February, dude, what Germany?
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Speaker 3: No, it's not, but it's not. It's not covered in
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Speaker 3: snow and freezing temperatures. I can get into why if
12:42
Speaker 3: you if you take let's say you take England and
12:45
Speaker 3: you draw a line around in North America. I mean
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Speaker 3: it's pretty high up there, but it doesn't get the
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Speaker 3: snow and the ice and everything else that Russia gets
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Speaker 3: that Canada gets because of the Earth's rotation and because
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Speaker 3: of the jet stream and the way that stuff comes
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Speaker 3: off the polar ice cap. And then you see what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So they can play soccer all winter long.
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Speaker 3: I know it can be a little bit chilly. I
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Speaker 3: know sometimes it's rainy, but they can do it.
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Speaker 1: I got another implementation that the NFL especially needs. Other
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Speaker 1: sports need this. Remember that game, was it who beat Croatia?
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Speaker 1: Was it Argentina Lane who beat Croatia? And there was
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Speaker 1: a rule late in the game there was a goal
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Speaker 1: that was disallowed because they found there was a chip
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Speaker 1: in the soccer ball that allowed the referee to change
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Speaker 1: the game. And it was on a header. I remember that, yes,
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Speaker 1: And I can't remember who beat Croatia in that game.
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Speaker 1: But the chip in the soccer ball gave them the data,
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Speaker 1: the data to make the call. Yeah, because it could
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Speaker 1: show when it's vibrating or whatever when it gets hit. Yes, chips.
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Speaker 1: It was Portugal, Okay, chip in an NFL football that
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Speaker 1: will show you where the ball is exactly in a
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Speaker 1: pile for a first down, because that's the problem with
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Speaker 1: the NFL and how it's so difficult to mark first
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Speaker 1: downs because you can't see the ball. It's hidden under
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Speaker 1: all the body, right, chip it fhip that sucker. If
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Speaker 1: you could put a chip in a soccer ball, it's.
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Speaker 3: Kicked around all day. So chip of football, so the
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Speaker 3: football would be chipped and the virtual grid where the
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Speaker 3: chips connected to like a virtual grid, will tell you
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Speaker 3: exactly where to place that ball.
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Speaker 1: Can all you nerds get on this.
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Speaker 3: There are a lot of nerds out there, and we're
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Speaker 3: talking about that when we're talking about the nose of
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Speaker 3: the foot, the two noses of the football, because the
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Speaker 3: middle of the football wouldn't necessarily.
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Speaker 1: Now you're asking too many questions. There are plenty of engineers.
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Speaker 1: Colorado school of minds is a mere you know, three
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Speaker 1: wood from my place.
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Speaker 2: Get on it.
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Speaker 1: Fix it so we can identify it first down in
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Speaker 1: a pile, so when they do the tush push, we
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Speaker 1: know where the ball is. I love it. That aspect
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Speaker 1: of the World Cup was great.
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Speaker 2: You know what.
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Speaker 3: I'd like to see that live and in real time.
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Speaker 3: Ah see, listen, you're using your brain today.
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Speaker 2: That's good.
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Speaker 3: So let's have a virtual grid that comes up on
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Speaker 3: like a tush push, and you can track the ball
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Speaker 3: toward and you'll have the line, the virtual line that
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Speaker 3: goes through the players right that are tush pushing, and
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Speaker 3: you can see where the football ends up virtually before
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Speaker 3: they unpile all the bodies.
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Speaker 2: I like that, and I.
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Speaker 3: Believe if the technology exists to put it in a
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Speaker 3: soccer ball and see the vibration of the header and
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Speaker 3: whether he's offside or not, it should exist to do
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Speaker 3: exactly what you're talking about. It should last thoughts on
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Speaker 3: the World Cup all right, Argentina's reaction after losing the game.
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Speaker 3: The fights that broke out on the field, like literal fights. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: punch is throwne standing with their backs to Spain when
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Speaker 3: Spain was awarded the trophy. Listen, I'm all I wanted Argentina,
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Speaker 3: but that was petty and pathetic. Sounds like something I
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Speaker 3: would do, which is petty and pathetic. Why do you
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Speaker 3: got guys punching dudes? You lost and it wasn't a
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Speaker 3: close loss. It wasn't one of those Oh my god,
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Speaker 3: Fluke you got you got dominated, you got dominated, you
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Speaker 3: got absolute.
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Speaker 1: And had it gone to penalty kicks, and I know
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Speaker 1: everybody watching wanted it to go to penalty kicks. That's
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Speaker 1: the only part of it that's flawed because Spain dominated
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Speaker 1: the game. Argentina, you had no reason to pull that none.
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Speaker 1: You look petty. You look like Moser when he shanks
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Speaker 1: two out of bounds and he wants a third mullion.
16:52
Speaker 1: That's what you look like. Mosia Lombardi and Kane. Kane
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Speaker 1: is in here.
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Speaker 2: Do you want to know what happened to my tournament
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Speaker 2: this weekend?
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Speaker 1: Do you care when we come back, I'll care. Okay,
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Speaker 1: if anybody sees Brett Kane, please notify authorities.
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Speaker 2: Give him out the mouth.
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Speaker 1: So Moe's learning more about this British Open champion thirty
17:10
Speaker 1: nine year old Ryan Fox not exactly a household name
17:15
Speaker 1: in golf. You realize that he never played in a
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Speaker 1: competitive golf tournament until the age of eighteen. We live
17:24
Speaker 1: in this era where kids are out there playing competitive
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Speaker 1: golf at five six. You know they're playing in these
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Speaker 1: junior tours. Hell, I had my kid out there playing
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Speaker 1: golf and when he was eight nine. He did not
17:38
Speaker 1: pick up a club until he was a teenager. He
17:40
Speaker 1: didn't play in the tournament until he was eighteen. He
17:42
Speaker 1: didn't join a tour until he was in his late
17:45
Speaker 1: twenties career. He is a British Open champion.
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Speaker 2: He's a late bloomer.
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Speaker 3: I mean he's what almost forty years old something like that,
17:52
Speaker 3: and yeah, he was still an amateur in his mid twenties.
17:56
Speaker 3: He was still an amateur before he even turned pro.
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Speaker 3: And now he's got himself a major. I mean it's
18:03
Speaker 3: pretty spectacular. I'm gonna be honest, I was pulling for
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Speaker 3: Cam Young. I can't imagine what it's like to sit
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Speaker 3: in the clubhouse for two hours, for two hours and
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Speaker 3: watch so you're the leader in the clubhouse in nine hunder,
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Speaker 3: but you see Kim's at ten and other guys are
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Speaker 3: bouncing up and down and whatnot, and you're sitting there like,
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Speaker 3: oh my god, these guys are guys are coming back
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Speaker 3: to the pack here right, And then you've got there's
18:28
Speaker 3: got to get to a point because the wind's blowing.
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Speaker 3: There's got to get to a point vic where you
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Speaker 3: say to yourself, if you're Cameron Young. Worst case scenario
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Speaker 3: is a playoff, right, worst kse I better go get
18:38
Speaker 3: back to the rains. Worst case scenario is a playoff.
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Speaker 3: And then this guy steps up and knocks down a
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Speaker 3: twelve foot or to win the whole damn thing. It's impressive.
18:47
Speaker 3: It's really impressive. Not only that, but he plays. We
18:50
Speaker 3: were talking about this yesterday with Keifer and Johnny Lyles
18:53
Speaker 3: and Ryker and con He plays fast.
18:55
Speaker 2: This guy plays fast. He's a fast player. He steps
18:59
Speaker 2: up to the ball and he hit said he's not
19:00
Speaker 2: doing this.
19:02
Speaker 1: In fact, twenty two seconds last after whoever was playing
19:07
Speaker 1: with Ryan Fox, it was Burns.
19:10
Speaker 2: It was Burns.
19:10
Speaker 1: Okay, he made his shot. Twenty two seconds later, Fox
19:14
Speaker 1: is putting his putt to win it. None of that
19:16
Speaker 1: pomp and circumstance, not sitting there reading everything, not pulling
19:20
Speaker 1: the Patrick Cantley or some of these dudes, the notorious
19:23
Speaker 1: slow players on the tour. He's just looking at the
19:26
Speaker 1: hole and putting it in there. Sometimes we make golf
19:29
Speaker 1: so so damn hard and it shouldn't be. So you
19:31
Speaker 1: made it hard over the weekend. You played well, but
19:34
Speaker 1: got your buck kick. Does that go okay? Yeah?
19:37
Speaker 3: So I don't know if this is just my own
19:39
Speaker 3: personal pain, because this happens anybody who plays, like in
19:45
Speaker 3: a member guest or a member member or whatever.
19:47
Speaker 1: You're gonna run into people sometimes with their handicaps.
19:50
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I don't think this guy was. But
19:52
Speaker 3: you're gonna get got at some point, right, yes, And
19:55
Speaker 3: there's literally nothing you could do about it, Like when
19:57
Speaker 3: I talk about Braden McNabb, when I talk about Kennon missing,
20:01
Speaker 3: you know, missing mccarr and just off the end of
20:04
Speaker 3: his blade and those factors into that, and you get
20:07
Speaker 3: McNabb a human dump truck as a defenseman, right and
20:12
Speaker 3: miss a big old when he grabs it, wheels through
20:14
Speaker 3: the circle and throws a seventy foot aerial perfectly to
20:18
Speaker 3: stone for a breakaway. You're like, sometimes it just happens.
20:23
Speaker 3: So first match on Thursday, we win and get four
20:27
Speaker 3: points out of five.
20:28
Speaker 2: That's great.
20:30
Speaker 3: Second match we have a six handicap who shoots one
20:33
Speaker 3: under on us. It's possible, that's possible.
20:37
Speaker 1: It's it's only nine holes, right, correct, Yeah, it's possible.
20:40
Speaker 2: The thing is, I've never done that.
20:42
Speaker 3: I've never done that to anybody, but it seems like
20:44
Speaker 3: it's always done to me.
20:45
Speaker 1: I've done it.
20:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I that that definitely can happen because
20:49
Speaker 3: that guy's a pretty good player. All right, Friday morning win,
20:55
Speaker 3: get three points out of five in the match.
20:58
Speaker 1: Pretty good, sitting pretty now up.
21:02
Speaker 3: The second match rolls around and my team had a
21:07
Speaker 3: fifteen handicap who was getting four pops fired and even
21:10
Speaker 3: par thirty six.
21:11
Speaker 1: Nah, it's a cheater. Sorry, I don't even know this person.
21:14
Speaker 3: Well, okay, hang on a second. On the back nine,
21:17
Speaker 3: because we've played the back nine.
21:18
Speaker 1: You're fifteen handicap. You're not shooting par. Sorry, Well, hold on,
21:21
Speaker 1: I don't know who this person is, and I haven't
21:23
Speaker 1: heard you talk about this, so this is not preordained
21:26
Speaker 1: or anything. But no fifteen handicap on Earth is shooting
21:29
Speaker 1: par in a tournament. Stop it, hey, so stop whoever
21:32
Speaker 1: you are, stop it. Hold on yourself.
21:35
Speaker 3: Let me defend this guy a little bit. He made
21:38
Speaker 3: two birdies threes for twos. So essentially I'm sitting in
21:42
Speaker 3: the fairway and he's gonna be twenty yards behind me
21:46
Speaker 3: or whatever, and he hits it to three feet. I'm like,
21:48
Speaker 3: I got a hole out from the fairway from one
21:50
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty to have the hole tile.
21:52
Speaker 1: That person's samba.
21:53
Speaker 2: But this guy.
21:54
Speaker 3: But this guy also he fired a forty nine in
21:57
Speaker 3: his other nine holes that day, So his first nine
22:00
Speaker 3: on the back he fires a forty nine against us.
22:04
Speaker 3: On the front, he fires a thirty six, getting four pops.
22:06
Speaker 3: So that's and I'm not I'm not casting dispersions.
22:11
Speaker 2: I'm not saying what you're saying.
22:12
Speaker 1: I am.
22:13
Speaker 3: I'm saying that that when it happens to you that way,
22:18
Speaker 3: you're like, you feel completely helpless.
22:20
Speaker 2: We have the last match on.
22:22
Speaker 1: Saturteen handicap and shoot even par It's not possible. Stop it.
22:27
Speaker 1: Don't make excuses. I know you're not. I know you're
22:30
Speaker 1: trying to be friendly. That is the most ridiculous thing
22:33
Speaker 1: in the world. Does anybody realize how ridiculous that is?
22:36
Speaker 1: A fifteen handicap so you're usually shooting high eighties, sometimes nineties,
22:42
Speaker 1: and you shoot park Come on, get the hell out
22:44
Speaker 1: of here.
22:46
Speaker 3: It's one of the greatest nines I've ever seen at
22:48
Speaker 3: like the hell it was. It was highly impressive. But again,
22:53
Speaker 3: that guy, so that guy, that guy.
22:54
Speaker 2: Ended up shooting. Hang on, that guy ends up shooting
22:57
Speaker 2: for his round. I mean he beat.
22:59
Speaker 3: He beat the the the best guy in the in
23:03
Speaker 3: the force some of us.
23:05
Speaker 2: He beat his own guy by five strokes.
23:08
Speaker 1: Yea, not worth discussing. Enjoy that troth.
23:12
Speaker 3: So anyway, yeah, so well he didn't anything, get some cash,
23:15
Speaker 3: but they ended up in the whole thing. My boy Georgia,
23:17
Speaker 3: he looked in but that's beside the point. But yeah, anyway,
23:20
Speaker 3: so that's what happened to me over the weekend. And
23:23
Speaker 3: it's just what it when it when it gets when
23:26
Speaker 3: when it happens to you, Vic and I know what's
23:28
Speaker 3: happened to you at one of your deals where you're
23:31
Speaker 3: playing a guy you don't know this guy and this
23:34
Speaker 3: guy you know is like, oh hey man, well it's
23:38
Speaker 3: the greatest ever. And sometimes it is. I think that's
23:40
Speaker 3: what this case was. But I can tell you I
23:43
Speaker 3: was feeling the pain.
23:45
Speaker 1: Hey, when there's when there's money at stake, I'm I'll
23:48
Speaker 1: say this. You know, if you're having friendly golf, whatever
23:50
Speaker 1: you get samdbag all you want, But when there's money
23:53
Speaker 1: on the table and you throw out that handicap and shoot,
23:57
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's just that just doesn't that doesn't fly
23:59
Speaker 1: with me. Hey, speaking of money on the table. I
24:03
Speaker 1: was at the Mount Carmel Feast over the weekend. We
24:05
Speaker 1: missed you in the dice.
24:06
Speaker 2: I did.
24:06
Speaker 3: I did see that vic. I couldn't make it, obviously,
24:09
Speaker 3: because I had my own thing going on. I had
24:11
Speaker 3: my own little dinner and all that kind of stuff,
24:13
Speaker 3: so I couldn't make it. But I saw them Mount
24:15
Speaker 3: Carmel Feast, and I wish that. I wish that I
24:17
Speaker 3: was there, because nobody calls a bingo game with the
24:20
Speaker 3: old ladies like me.
24:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and they do.
24:23
Speaker 2: They still miss me? Do they miss me?
24:24
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those old ladies miss you.
24:26
Speaker 2: Okay, good good.
24:27
Speaker 1: The room was packed, the feast was packed. The outlaw
24:29
Speaker 1: Chuck a Luck. The Gaming Commission won't let them do
24:32
Speaker 1: Chuck a Luck. And here's my word to the Gaming Commission.
24:35
Speaker 1: What the hell you doing?
24:35
Speaker 3: Man?
24:37
Speaker 1: Can't let a church make some money because you're afraid
24:40
Speaker 1: of Central City in Blackhawk.
24:41
Speaker 2: The hell out of here?
24:43
Speaker 1: Can you let Mount Carmel play Chuck a Luck? Everybody
24:46
Speaker 1: loves that game, does everybody knowing now you're you're you're
24:49
Speaker 1: not letting them do Chuck a Luck anymore?
24:51
Speaker 3: Can you can you explain everybody? It's a it's a
24:53
Speaker 3: dice game. Can you explain everybody, it's one of the wheels.
24:55
Speaker 3: Oh that one I was.
24:57
Speaker 2: Thinking of dice game.
24:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like dice, but you just you put your
25:01
Speaker 1: money on a number three, two and if it hits
25:04
Speaker 1: that number, you win. You know, whatever reason, they don't
25:07
Speaker 1: let them do the chuck a luck anymore to raise
25:10
Speaker 1: money for a church because the Gaming Commission is concerned
25:13
Speaker 1: that Blackhawk and Central City get out. I'd like to
25:19
Speaker 1: know who made that decision. I'm on the radio this
25:22
Speaker 1: morning letting you know that's a stupid decision.
25:24
Speaker 3: So you're talking, you're talking about the one. Yeah, where
25:30
Speaker 3: you put the money and then you spin it and
25:32
Speaker 3: then then.
25:32
Speaker 1: You spend it right, and if it lands on your number,
25:35
Speaker 1: you win. Half of the proceeds go to the church.
25:38
Speaker 1: Church the other half of you. It's just it's not
25:41
Speaker 1: that big a deal. It's not that big a deal.
25:44
Speaker 1: It's like bingo, just calm down. Nobody's running meth rings
25:48
Speaker 1: at the bizarre calm down. It's again over regulation. It's
25:54
Speaker 1: what it is. Hey, did you see Hunter Goodman three
26:00
Speaker 1: home runs yesterday?
26:01
Speaker 2: I did.
26:02
Speaker 1: Did you see Honter Goodman do it again? This is
26:04
Speaker 1: the second time he's done it in his career. And
26:07
Speaker 1: yet the Rockies lost again, and they still have the
26:11
Speaker 1: worst record in the National League again. But this kid's bombing,
26:16
Speaker 1: and I'm still trying to figure out why he wasn't
26:18
Speaker 1: invited to Home run Derby.
26:19
Speaker 2: I have no idea. It's it's.
26:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just gonna get me fired up and angry, now, Vic,
26:25
Speaker 3: I mean, you're just gonna get You're just gonna get
26:27
Speaker 3: me peeled. I mean, the guy's sitting there with thirty
26:29
Speaker 3: bombs on the season. Here we are, just after the
26:32
Speaker 3: All Star break. The guy's got thirty bombs on the
26:34
Speaker 3: season and he didn't participate.
26:37
Speaker 2: And I don't know what to think. Man, the the
26:40
Speaker 2: the arms.
26:43
Speaker 3: When you're down eight to one after two, how do
26:46
Speaker 3: you mentally stay in a game like that?
26:47
Speaker 2: Vic? Seriously, how do you? How do you?
26:50
Speaker 3: I know, you gave up one run the rest of
26:51
Speaker 3: the game, But if you're down eight to one, yeah,
26:54
Speaker 3: maybe I guess you say, oh wow, we've got all
26:56
Speaker 3: these innings, you know, we've got we've got, you know,
26:59
Speaker 3: seven more innings to come back. But when you're down
27:01
Speaker 3: eight to one, when your starter gets rocked, how do
27:04
Speaker 3: you even remotely when Felberg gets rocked, how do you
27:08
Speaker 3: even remotely hang with that?
27:10
Speaker 1: Well? He hit three homers in a game on June
27:12
Speaker 1: twenty seventh. He did it again yesterday. There are only
27:16
Speaker 1: three other players in Rockies history who have multiple three
27:20
Speaker 1: homer games, Larry Walker, Todd Helton, and Carlos Gonzalez. Pretty
27:27
Speaker 1: good group. Only four years into his big league career.
27:33
Speaker 1: So I want to ask this again. You're approaching the
27:37
Speaker 1: trade deadline. You clearly need to be better. You need
27:40
Speaker 1: to get better, you need to add depth, you need
27:42
Speaker 1: to add talent. Do you touch Hunter Goodman? If you're
27:45
Speaker 1: a Colorado Rockies front office type, do you even move him?
27:48
Speaker 1: Do you even think about it?
27:53
Speaker 2: Vic? Right right now? What would you have to get
27:56
Speaker 2: back right now?
27:57
Speaker 3: At power hitting catcher for some of these teams, I'm
28:00
Speaker 3: sure would be very.
28:01
Speaker 2: Valuable, very valuable. What would you get back? I don't
28:06
Speaker 2: know what you get back.
28:09
Speaker 3: But he's only I guess here's where I'm sitting. He's
28:12
Speaker 3: only twenty six years old. It's not like we're talking
28:15
Speaker 3: about a guy who's thirty three and you know, and
28:18
Speaker 3: he's he's got a finite into his career coming up here.
28:23
Speaker 3: It's in the next half decade or whatever. This guy's
28:27
Speaker 3: only twenty six, And if you're serious about trying to
28:30
Speaker 3: build a winner, couldn't you use guys like Hunter Goodman
28:34
Speaker 3: in your lineup on a daily basis? The answer is yeah,
28:37
Speaker 3: the answer is yes. But will he ever have more
28:42
Speaker 3: value than he has right this second?
28:45
Speaker 1: Yeah?
28:45
Speaker 3: I mean, well, if you if you're if you're wanting
28:48
Speaker 3: this is where I don't know where the Rockies are going,
28:51
Speaker 3: and I don't know where their head is, and I
28:52
Speaker 3: don't know what their true plan is really, and so
28:55
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't lean to way the way
28:58
Speaker 3: they were thinking. But to me, if in any event,
29:01
Speaker 3: I would like to have a guy that hits bombs
29:04
Speaker 3: and he's having a great year. Yeah, exactly, right, Like
29:08
Speaker 3: tomorrow night, if we if Brett's not still sick.
29:11
Speaker 1: We're going Tomorrow night with or without Brett?
29:14
Speaker 2: Oh we are?
29:15
Speaker 1: Well, that's my call. I'm not gonna we keep delaying this.
29:18
Speaker 1: We're not going to find a night where all of
29:20
Speaker 1: us are gonna be available anyway.
29:23
Speaker 3: All right, Well, if we go tomorrow night and it
29:25
Speaker 3: looks like we are, then I would want to see
29:29
Speaker 3: Hunter Goodman bomb, all right, just just.
29:37
Speaker 1: In fighting himself.
29:39
Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna be there anyway. No, I'm not there. Okay,
29:44
Speaker 2: Well you just went to San Francisco for crying out loud.
29:46
Speaker 2: There's a special occasion. Why because Jesse was Jesse was
29:49
Speaker 2: out correct.
29:50
Speaker 1: Where are we sitting for this game?
29:53
Speaker 2: I don't know wherever Tick tells us.
29:56
Speaker 1: So it's a company seats. Listen. If it's not front
29:59
Speaker 1: row behind the I'm just not I'm not into it.
30:04
Speaker 3: Typically our seats are behind the visiting dugout someplace, somewhere
30:09
Speaker 3: about thirty rows up something like that.
30:12
Speaker 1: Not front row behind the plate with access to that
30:15
Speaker 1: little club area. It's just not gonna work for me.
30:20
Speaker 2: Well, then we may as well cancel the whole thing anyway, because.
30:24
Speaker 1: They ain't back and forth to going. I mean, it's
30:26
Speaker 1: one hundred degrees in Denver, and I'm sure that's going
30:29
Speaker 1: to impact the attendance rate at at of Course Field yesterday.
30:32
Speaker 1: I think they only had twenty one thousand for a
30:34
Speaker 1: Sunday game, and usually those Sunday games are full. But man,
30:39
Speaker 1: it was so hot yesterday.
30:40
Speaker 2: My goodness, I mowed the lawn yesterday.
30:44
Speaker 3: I got through the front and I was sweating, and
30:47
Speaker 3: I was a little angry. I'm gonna be honest with you.
30:49
Speaker 3: I was a little angry. I had to go early
30:52
Speaker 3: in the morning and buy a new new weed eater. Okay,
30:55
Speaker 3: my electric weed eater crapped out on me. It died
30:58
Speaker 3: on me, so I had to go buy an new
31:00
Speaker 3: weed eater. Then it was hot.
31:04
Speaker 2: Then I was pissed because I can't get parts of
31:06
Speaker 2: my long to grow.
31:08
Speaker 1: Well, you're not the only one, bro. Look around Metro Denver.
31:11
Speaker 3: And then I said screw it, and I'd stopped. So
31:14
Speaker 3: I've got to do the back today. I think it's
31:15
Speaker 3: gonna be even harder today, or I can do the
31:17
Speaker 3: back on Tuesday sometime. But I stopped halfway through and said,
31:22
Speaker 3: I I right now, I'm angry and I'm smoking hot,
31:27
Speaker 3: and I can't do this anymore.
31:29
Speaker 2: You know.
31:29
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are angry over the weekend.
31:31
Speaker 1: There's been some crazy violence in Denver. But yesterday I
31:34
Speaker 1: played morning golf. I walked and I played terrible. And
31:38
Speaker 1: when I say terrible, like wanted to walk off the
31:40
Speaker 1: course after every hole.
31:41
Speaker 2: Terrible.
31:42
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you're wired like me. Most
31:45
Speaker 1: what I decided to do, I was gonna go watch
31:47
Speaker 1: the World Cup final at my brother his place. He's
31:50
Speaker 1: five miles from my house. I said, I'm gonna punish myself.
31:54
Speaker 1: So I ran there in the middle of the heat,
31:56
Speaker 1: and I couldn't make it all the way. I had
31:57
Speaker 1: to walk because it was so hot. That's what you
32:00
Speaker 1: do when you play bad golf. A lot of you
32:02
Speaker 1: go home, drink a beer, prop your feet up. I
32:05
Speaker 1: punish myself. If you don't punish yourself after a bad showing,
32:10
Speaker 1: why are we doing this? That's what you need to do.
32:15
Speaker 1: Trust me, the next time you play, you'll play better.
32:20
Speaker 2: I'm not punishing myself like that.
32:22
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
32:23
Speaker 3: Maybe I like myself too much, or I don't want
32:26
Speaker 3: to die one of the two. All right, wrap us up,
32:28
Speaker 3: Come on, leap the segment.
32:31
Speaker 1: All right, it's wrapped up. Go to break russ rights
32:34
Speaker 1: in Uh. That cargo trade is the only successful trade
32:39
Speaker 1: in Rockies history. And I'm thinking back. You remember the
32:43
Speaker 1: cargo trade, right, Matteah, Yeah, Matt Holiday, Yep, you mean
32:50
Speaker 1: to tell me there have been no other trades were
32:53
Speaker 1: the Rockies have won the great Rockies trades of all time.
33:00
Speaker 1: I mean the noelan Arnaudo trade didn't work. Nobody won
33:02
Speaker 1: in that one too. Low trade didn't work right, Trevor
33:09
Speaker 1: story trade or did he walk? I can't remember. God
33:17
Speaker 1: what an infield they had at one point, you know,
33:20
Speaker 1: in field twenty eighteen seventeen. That that infield was ridiculous.
33:25
Speaker 3: I think back to some of these players, Vic No,
33:29
Speaker 3: the Rockies at one point had some really good players. Man,
33:35
Speaker 3: oh boy, yeah. So I guess they were smart to
33:38
Speaker 3: move Holiday to the A's because they got what they got,
33:41
Speaker 3: cargo they got, Uh, what's the pitcher's name?
33:48
Speaker 2: Help me?
33:49
Speaker 1: Hell if I know? I don't remember that far back.
33:52
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, it's like almost twenty years ago.
33:55
Speaker 1: But very rarely do you give up a guy like
33:58
Speaker 1: Holiday and then get a cargo in return. I mean,
34:01
Speaker 1: someone gets lost in the shuffle. That that trade was awesome, right,
34:04
Speaker 1: that trade worked, worked for both parties.
34:06
Speaker 2: Right, Let me google something?
34:08
Speaker 1: Hang on best the Mayhew went for nothing?
34:12
Speaker 2: Rockies for nothing?
34:14
Speaker 1: They let the mayew walk.
34:16
Speaker 2: Okay, best Rockies.
34:18
Speaker 1: Trarades long a trade story.
34:22
Speaker 3: Uh, Ian Stewart to the Cubs, they got Houston.
34:25
Speaker 2: That's when they got le Mayhew.
34:26
Speaker 3: Was Ian Stewart to the Cubs. They acquired Dante Bouchett
34:31
Speaker 3: from Milwaukee.
34:33
Speaker 1: That's a good trade.
34:34
Speaker 2: What did they get for too low?
34:37
Speaker 1: Nothing? They got something from Toronto that amounted to nothing.
34:41
Speaker 1: They got some Yeah you can't remember, it means they
34:43
Speaker 1: got nothing.
34:44
Speaker 3: Look, okay, so y'all have to look it up. But
34:46
Speaker 3: I do know that they had Trevor Story waiting in
34:49
Speaker 3: the wings. Correct, they had Trevor.
34:52
Speaker 1: You could see why they made that trade.
34:55
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess you can see why.
34:58
Speaker 3: But they I think they had Trevor Story, if I'm
35:00
Speaker 3: not mistaken, waiting in the wings to take over. Its short,
35:03
Speaker 3: which is why when Brett's here and not throwing up
35:06
Speaker 3: or whatever his problem is. When he talks about the
35:09
Speaker 3: Rockies in this recent draft drafting three catchers, I'm like, eh,
35:13
Speaker 3: I like her guy. He's twenty six. Now, maybe they're
35:15
Speaker 3: looking down the road when he's thirty. You know, Can
35:19
Speaker 3: one of these guys develop enough in his you know,
35:22
Speaker 3: his early twenties to take over blah blah.
35:24
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I have no idea.
35:27
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just happenstance the way it worked out with
35:29
Speaker 3: a major League Baseball trade. But this right now, this
35:32
Speaker 3: Hunter Goodman thing, vic again it's I you know what
35:37
Speaker 3: I do. If I'm the Rockies too, I'm gonna get
35:39
Speaker 3: ahead of the game. I'm not gonna be reactive to this.
35:41
Speaker 3: Let me get ahead of the game. If I'm gonna
35:43
Speaker 3: move guys, and we all know the usual suspects, including
35:48
Speaker 3: sins and whatnot.
35:49
Speaker 2: If I'm but if I'm.
35:50
Speaker 3: If I'm going to move guys, then I'm going to
35:54
Speaker 3: start doing it sooner rather than later.
35:56
Speaker 2: I'm not waiting till the deadline.
35:57
Speaker 1: When's the last time the Colle Colorado Rockies made a
36:01
Speaker 1: trade where they traded away a position player, a top
36:04
Speaker 1: notch position player, and they got a picture in return
36:08
Speaker 1: that became an anchor type pitcher. All the great pictures
36:12
Speaker 1: of this franchise, they didn't come here via trades. They
36:17
Speaker 1: were developed, right, correct? Am I wrong?
36:22
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think bad.
36:24
Speaker 1: Aaron Cook, Aaron Cook was developed, John Gray developed. Dela
36:32
Speaker 1: Rossa was a trade, I believe. Uh yeah, Dela Rosa
36:37
Speaker 1: got here. He chewed up a lot of Indians, a lot.
36:40
Speaker 1: Jeff Francis was developed. It's hard here, for whatever reason,
36:48
Speaker 1: to pick up a picture via trade and have that
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Speaker 1: picture shine. And yes, we're calling them great pictures that
36:56
Speaker 1: doesn't really qualify. But pitchers who are satisfactory.
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Speaker 3: Or guys or guys who chewed up innings, guys who
37:03
Speaker 3: were staples in the rotation, right, guys who were around
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Speaker 3: for a while. That's that's an excellent point, Vic, it
37:11
Speaker 3: really is an excellent point. I look, I don't know what.
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Speaker 2: I just as I go back, I don't know what
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Speaker 2: the plan.
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Speaker 1: Is for the future of this. He's history. No, no,
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Speaker 1: Why is it that we can't get pictures here via trade?
37:28
Speaker 1: That amount too much? It's very difficult, it really is.
37:33
Speaker 1: I mean, you're making a trade. The picture has no
37:38
Speaker 1: choice in the matter. I get why a picture won't
37:40
Speaker 1: come here via free agency. It's very difficult. I mean,
37:43
Speaker 1: we've had it before. It's just they don't want to
37:44
Speaker 1: pitch here. I get that, But in a trade, why not.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think.
37:53
Speaker 3: If you took who's one of the great arms in
37:57
Speaker 3: the game today, let's.
37:59
Speaker 2: Talk about, you know, a starter who just you know, eats.
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Speaker 1: Up in from Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let's take Paul Skeins, who obviously was staying
38:10
Speaker 3: struggling for a while.
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Speaker 2: But let's just take him. Well, let's take I'll tell
38:14
Speaker 2: you what.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to the Dodgers and plunk Yamamoto out of
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Speaker 3: their rotation and stick him here. He's got ten wins
38:18
Speaker 3: on the year. Pretty good, Right, Let's go get Yama
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Speaker 3: Moto and let's let's take him and stick him into
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Speaker 3: the rotation.
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Speaker 2: Okay, what does that guy become? Then?
38:27
Speaker 3: If Paul Skeins is dealing at cours Field a lot,
38:30
Speaker 3: what what is he? If Yamamoto's dealing at cors Field
38:34
Speaker 3: a lot, what kind of picture is he? Well, I'll
38:36
Speaker 3: tell you, and I know that brought the old the
38:38
Speaker 3: Dodgers lineup has helped him get the ten wins. But
38:42
Speaker 3: he's got into super nic r and he can certainly
38:45
Speaker 3: throw throw strikes. So what does he become in a
38:49
Speaker 3: Rockies uniform at course field? And I'm not even talking
38:52
Speaker 3: about with run support or lack of run support. I'm
38:54
Speaker 3: not talking about total wins. But how effective is he
38:57
Speaker 3: on the hill if he's moved right here to the
38:59
Speaker 3: color the Rockies.
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Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven Colorado Rockies went ninety and seventy three.
39:08
Speaker 1: They went on to the World Series that year. I'm
39:11
Speaker 1: gonna give you the pitchers that season, and you tell
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Speaker 1: me if these qualified his great pictures, and how you
39:20
Speaker 1: would qualify these pictures. Jeff Francis seventeen and nine.
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Speaker 3: Jeff Francis was pretty good in his heyday, dude. I
39:28
Speaker 3: mean that lefty, he did some stuff. I'm gonna give
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Speaker 3: him seventeen and nine that season. Okay, good season.
39:35
Speaker 1: Robaldo only started fifteen games because he was hurt. He
39:38
Speaker 1: went four and four that season. Do you remember Franklin Morales?
39:42
Speaker 1: Of course, he was very up and down, very wild,
39:45
Speaker 1: very wild, had a lot of talent there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
39:47
Speaker 1: When he was on, he was on.
39:49
Speaker 2: When he was off, he was off.
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Speaker 1: Matt Hurgis went five and one.
39:52
Speaker 2: I remember Matt Hergis.
39:54
Speaker 1: How about this one, the Dragon Slayer, Josh Fogg, he
39:58
Speaker 1: went ten and nine. And I'm bringing this up because
40:03
Speaker 1: I read those stats and today, if I gave you
40:06
Speaker 1: a starting pitcher from Colorado whose record hovered even hovered
40:10
Speaker 1: around five hundred, it's a success. These guys all had
40:13
Speaker 1: better than five hundred records that season. That staff in
40:18
Speaker 1: the second half of two thousand and seven had the
40:21
Speaker 1: lowest er in the National League. Remember many Corpus?
40:25
Speaker 2: Sure, oh yeah, I remember many Corpus.
40:27
Speaker 1: Absolutely the lowest era in the National League that year,
40:31
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. So when we
40:35
Speaker 1: say it can't happen, it's happened. We saw it happen.
40:39
Speaker 1: I don't know how it happened. None of those pictures
40:42
Speaker 1: I just mentioned are Hall of famers. None of those
40:45
Speaker 1: pictures would be considered great pictures. I mean, I guess
40:48
Speaker 1: what would you consider Wibaldo.
40:50
Speaker 3: Again, there were portions of their career where they were
40:53
Speaker 3: incredibly effective and really Vick, I'm talking about really good pictures. Okay,
41:00
Speaker 3: portions of their career, but the long term, no, And
41:04
Speaker 3: I think back to guys that I had hopes for,
41:05
Speaker 3: like seaun Ci Cohen, Remember a guy like him? Can
41:08
Speaker 3: you developed this guy? And it just seems to hit
41:11
Speaker 3: a flipping wall. I don't know, man, I don't know
41:14
Speaker 3: what the game plan is. I guess if you want
41:18
Speaker 3: to get assets, Hunter Goodman should be on the trade block,
41:20
Speaker 3: But at the age of twenty six and with thirty
41:22
Speaker 3: bombs already, I don't want to trade him. But man,
41:25
Speaker 3: you could probably get a real haul back at this point,
41:27
Speaker 3: and again you get more arms to try and develop
41:30
Speaker 3: and throw as well. Quarterback take just get as many
41:33
Speaker 3: arms as you possibly can throw them in the mix
41:35
Speaker 3: and try to develop them again.
41:38
Speaker 1: A lot of people texting. And that was a fluke run. Yeah,
41:40
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can call it a fluke.
41:42
Speaker 1: It was the greatest month, one of the greatest months
41:46
Speaker 1: of sports. I can never remember as ever part of
41:49
Speaker 1: that October run. I get it. We're not done, We're
41:53
Speaker 1: not naive. We all understand what it was and what
41:57
Speaker 1: it is because it's not been even close to equaled.
42:01
Speaker 1: I mean, you win that many games, game after game,
42:05
Speaker 1: and the way they went, I get it. The man,
42:07
Speaker 1: was it fun. I mean, I'm not too proud to
42:11
Speaker 1: admit it was a fluke. Of course it was. Of
42:13
Speaker 1: course it was crazy. Of course it was nuts. But
42:17
Speaker 1: it was awesome.
42:18
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
42:19
Speaker 1: And for those of us who were around here in
42:20
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, it took over the city. It's
42:24
Speaker 1: the first time I remember, first time that another sport
42:28
Speaker 1: during football season overtook the Broncos.
42:32
Speaker 2: It definitely did, and it wasn't even close. It wasn't.
42:35
Speaker 2: It was a special, special time.
42:37
Speaker 1: VIC.
42:37
Speaker 3: But again, as Rockies people right living here in the
42:42
Speaker 3: great Centennial State, are we looking at once every thirty
42:47
Speaker 3: years for something like that. I mean, can we I
42:52
Speaker 3: don't even think that we can expect it, because maybe
42:56
Speaker 3: it was just such a and it feels like it
42:59
Speaker 3: was just such a crazy one off that that kind
43:03
Speaker 3: of thing can never be duplicated again. Now, the Rockies
43:05
Speaker 3: have had good teams, they've had great players, they've had
43:10
Speaker 3: all stars, they've I mean, you know when you talk
43:12
Speaker 3: about Larry Walker, I mean we're talking about the Lake
43:15
Speaker 3: Street Bombers, Dude, I mean, that's that was great baseball.
43:20
Speaker 1: Player.
43:21
Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed.
43:23
Speaker 1: And the year that they were contending is the year
43:28
Speaker 1: that they actually patch together pitchers somehow, a hooker by crook.
43:34
Speaker 1: They had a pitching staff that worked. And that's what's
43:38
Speaker 1: impossible here. And I don't know how you fix that.
43:43
Speaker 1: I'm not sure even if the workstop it, you'll fix that.
43:46
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if a new salary cap will fix that.
43:50
Speaker 1: Like everybody thinks that the cap that's eventually gonna get
43:53
Speaker 1: get to baseball is going to make things equitable, how
43:57
Speaker 1: do you make pitching and course field that the year
44:02
Speaker 1: that they were pretty good, do you remember what happened
44:04
Speaker 1: that year and the year before, do you remember what
44:05
Speaker 1: happened that took place that became a key everybody hated.
44:11
Speaker 1: I remember the Humidor, Yeah, that sort of balanced the power.
44:16
Speaker 1: Remember the San Francisco giants would come in and complained
44:18
Speaker 1: that the that the Rockies were over using the humidor. Yes,
44:23
Speaker 1: I mean barring another humidor invention. I don't know how
44:27
Speaker 1: you fix the Rocky the Rockies pitching stuff. I don't
44:33
Speaker 1: one more hour Togo this morning, Mojie Lombardi and Kin
44:36
Speaker 1: Cain is not with us. He has been missing now
44:39
Speaker 1: for I think a week. If anybody sees him, please
44:43
Speaker 1: alert the radio station. We're back after this