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NFL Week 2 NFL DFS - MNF | Buccaneers@Texans | Chargers@Raiders | DraftKings Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: All systems going clear the lift.
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  Speaker 2: What's up every one? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo.
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  Speaker 2: We got another two gamer. We're starting off the season,
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  Speaker 2: our first two gamer of the NFL season that we've
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  Speaker 2: got so far. I'm back in the booth, got Hoops
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  Speaker 2: to here with me and title as usual, Gonna break
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  Speaker 2: down from the two game perspective, huge contests, and then
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  Speaker 2: we will bring the showdown element into it as well.
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  Speaker 2: You do have the Bucks at the Texans for the
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  Speaker 2: first one, and then the featured slate on drafting is
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers at the Raiders. So Hoopster, bring you in, man,
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: I'd set up, Man. I can't even go away for
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: one week and everybody's bringing Patrick Mahomes into the main slate.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff over on the site. I look at the site,
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  Speaker 2: wake up, hungover, littered with Patrick Mahomes stuff. He actually
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  Speaker 2: had an okay day, but it took a lot and
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  Speaker 2: it still wasn't even close to guys that are as
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  Speaker 2: good as Russell Wilson and Daniel Jones and all these
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  Speaker 2: studs in the NFL. Now, how's it going, man?
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  Speaker 3: Good to be back, Dan, Daniel Daniel Dollard is now
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  Speaker 3: Danny Dollard no longer you know Danny Dimes like he's upgraded.
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  Speaker 3: Dude is the real deal in terms of mahomes though, Like, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I think at some point you're gonna start changing your
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  Speaker 3: mind a little bit. The dude is running a lot.
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  Speaker 3: He's if he's a running quarterback, like you have to
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  Speaker 3: at least consider I hope he's on one. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the problem is he's never on these main slates because
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  Speaker 3: they're always primetime, which the way they're playing, they might
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  Speaker 3: get booted from some of those primetime games because they
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  Speaker 3: look They look like as title would say, cheeks and
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  Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey does not look good. I mean just literally
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: handed the defense in interception yesterday. So I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 3: I think I think you're eventually, I mean, now you
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  Speaker 3: just won't do it out of it, Like there's no
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  Speaker 3: way because you got it. You have to stick to
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  Speaker 3: your gun. I understand that aspect of it. But like
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  Speaker 3: if you actually look at it and analyze why you
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  Speaker 3: weren't playing him in the past versus like why you
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  Speaker 3: might want to consider him now, we might get you
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  Speaker 3: to change your mind.
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  Speaker 2: A little BITA thing, it's not even a bit anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I've dug into the numbers enough. I think
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  Speaker 2: for me, it's more of like, look at what he
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  Speaker 2: had to do. The man had like a forty yard
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  Speaker 2: touched a run, a thirty yard touchdown run, and still
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  Speaker 2: not even close to sniffing it, Like not even close.
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  Speaker 2: There was guys just way above him. The pricing matters.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing that people I think that played DFS
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  Speaker 2: forget is like he's a you know, Tom Brady won
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  Speaker 2: all those championships, he wasn't the best DFS quarterback. Like
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  Speaker 2: it's fantasy versus reality. Mahomes already has a start like
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  Speaker 2: a superstar started career. He's lights out, it seems when
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  Speaker 2: you get to the playoffs until last year and like
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  Speaker 2: I said, they've started slow. But for DFS, it's just
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  Speaker 2: really he has to do all that and he still
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  Speaker 2: doesn't come close. Just the way it goes. But title
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  Speaker 2: bring you in, man. You know Danny Dollars is the
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  Speaker 2: one you got to. You gotta come around on a
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  Speaker 2: guy here. But I don't know, maybe he's playing in
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  Speaker 2: the dome now this is two weeks. What about we
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  Speaker 2: get him outside in the week or two here and
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  Speaker 2: we see how it goes, maybe it'd be a different story.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's been very impressive. I mean giving
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  Speaker 4: the ball to JT a lot also helps. Tyler Warren
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  Speaker 4: was a huge addition, one of the biggest head scratchers
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  Speaker 4: right now. Obviously two weeks into the year. I don't
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  Speaker 4: overreact too much, but Loveland over Tyler Warred in the
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  Speaker 4: draft for the Bears was one of the more interesting choices.
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  Speaker 4: Lovely getting out snapped by Cole Combett's still man, what
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  Speaker 4: that Cowboys Giants game? We had some hack of football games.
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  Speaker 4: The Cardinals almost blew it. Yeah, I mean, come on
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  Speaker 4: NFL Sunday. There's nothing better but two games. I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: two games better than one. I saw Shaloub this morning.
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  Speaker 4: I'm starting to love the Showdown and feeling dialed in
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  Speaker 4: about Showdown two game. It's a whole different ball game.
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  Speaker 4: Anything really goes, but the prize is five hundred K
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  Speaker 4: on a Monday always feels pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Edge still extremely high and Showdown I can't you know,
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  Speaker 2: people say, oh, if it is, and why you went on?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're we've had so much success as a
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  Speaker 2: team and as a community at chip A Nation at Showdown,
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  Speaker 2: but we're still seeing solo shippers, Like there is just
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  Speaker 2: so many angles to it of how you can play
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  Speaker 2: in the lineup. Last night wasn't even that crazy. The
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  Speaker 2: main part of it was it was an Atlanta five
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  Speaker 2: to one. Many were on a Minnesota five to one
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  Speaker 2: if they were going that route at all. And then
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  Speaker 2: the other factor was obviously leaving over three grand on
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  Speaker 2: the table. But in Showdown we said a million times,
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  Speaker 2: guess what It'll be no different tonight in Showdown as
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  Speaker 2: well as in for the main slate, because there's tons
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  Speaker 2: of options. We just see it time and time again,
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  Speaker 2: these top wide receivers where it ends up being their
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  Speaker 2: second man up or the third man up that ends
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  Speaker 2: up having the better game. Renfro yesterday a huge game
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  Speaker 2: for him, and even Ted had a good game. It's
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  Speaker 2: just like that, that's kind of the setup of these things.
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  Speaker 2: You can see it across the board.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally forgot. I got the Renfrow raidersters. I
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  Speaker 3: should have pulled it out. I mean remember that whole
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  Speaker 3: thing I got, Like we're on the show and it
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  Speaker 3: was funny because Renfrow was crushing every week and the
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  Speaker 3: my co host at the time would give me no
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  Speaker 3: credit for playing Renfro. And then he went off and
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  Speaker 3: I think I got like.
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  Speaker 5: Eight Renfro jersey. He said to me, like if I
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  Speaker 5: made a joke because he couldn't get him, like it's
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  Speaker 5: such a you know, random player, so he had to
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  Speaker 5: be local and like a bunch of people sided to me,
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  Speaker 5: so I got a bunch I might have to bust
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  Speaker 5: that out two touchdowns for him.
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  Speaker 3: Here's one thing that's definitely a bit that I've played
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  Speaker 3: into a little bit too much, because I actually do
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  Speaker 3: stay up relatively late when you consider my circumstances. So
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  Speaker 3: I have to be up early with the kids for school.
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  Speaker 3: I stay up till like twelve twelve thirty, which I
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  Speaker 3: think is you know, that's that's pretty late considering I
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  Speaker 3: have to get up at six every day. So I'll
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  Speaker 3: be up. I'll be up at least till halftime. Let's
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  Speaker 3: let's say that I'll be up till halftime, and that
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  Speaker 3: is i'd say close to a lox. You don't don't
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  Speaker 3: go crazy making any wild bets because I'll be up
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  Speaker 3: to at least half game.
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  Speaker 2: The question is if title's going to be up. This
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  Speaker 2: man was up all Speaking of up, this guy's up
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  Speaker 2: showing us the poker chips in the discord. This morning
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  Speaker 2: looked like a pretty good night.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: What time did that session start and when you had
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  Speaker 2: to come home at some point to do the show?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like three fifteen am. Though, I was so tired
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  Speaker 4: that I go to bed really early over here, like
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  Speaker 4: eight thirty nine. I try and get to bed real early,
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  Speaker 4: get up early. So yeah, I got to bed early,
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  Speaker 4: eight thirty on the couch, got up at three, so
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  Speaker 4: the game was still going and I had a lot
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  Speaker 4: of chips in front of me. But I was in
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  Speaker 4: for a lot too, So we're gonna make a little
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  Speaker 4: of that back today.
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  Speaker 3: Honest title, Age knows what's up. I'm standing up late
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  Speaker 3: playing slots on the old uh you know online casino,
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  Speaker 3: I said, I said, we have a common favorite game,
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  Speaker 3: so I've sign up a couple of screenshots late at night.
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  Speaker 3: So Age knows what's up.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta get the promo code for that. Speaking of marketing,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, boys, let's get it going here, baby.
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  Speaker 2: I got real beard heager. I needed to buy one.
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  Speaker 2: It was on special. I got Amazon gift cards for days.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, I'm gonna have to go
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  Speaker 2: with the bit on the show. Should we do a
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: home landscape speech for you guys, cause we're most certainly
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: not officially sponsored by these guys and I could give
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: a shit about representing them. But with the bit shipnation
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  Speaker 2: dot com, you guys can get in. Also on Thursday
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: this week, I should not should a game still running.
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  Speaker 2: Everything else still amazing going on. We got three new
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  Speaker 2: winners over the weekend. But on Thursday, week three, three
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  Speaker 2: for three, we we got a promotion coming out. If
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  Speaker 2: you're not with us yet to check it out and
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  Speaker 2: be able to get in the front door. So excited
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  Speaker 2: for that. Yeah, Like, honestly they might be Richard like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe they are the best. I just hate reading their ads.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's the problem. You can't spell manscaped without ad
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: and that's the problem, right, It's there.
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  Speaker 3: At one point was pumping Manscape. They went to every
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  Speaker 3: you know, YouTube show, every podcast and.
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  Speaker 2: They're still getting talked about. But the problem was they
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  Speaker 2: wrote your ads for you and it would legit be
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  Speaker 2: four paragraphs that you there's nobody that can just bust
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  Speaker 2: that out, like you have to just run with it.
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  Speaker 2: Mark says it content already let's go. Yeah, we're we're
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: dialed in over at the Nation. We got a lot
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: of stuff off stuff up already. I got the Stone
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  Speaker 2: here in front of me, So, like I said, we're
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: gonna break it down from a two game perspective. We
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: are gonna go position by position, so we could take
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: some of those thoughts and help you guys sort of
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  Speaker 2: think rued them if you want to use them in Showdown.
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  Speaker 2: We will still have the featured slate covered later on
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  Speaker 2: with the slate plan, our guy Marley covers the Island games.
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  Speaker 2: We got the Stone coming out for Showdown later on
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  Speaker 2: tonight as well. And actually Hoop said the time thing there, man,
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  Speaker 2: I'll probably be the one to late swap and go
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  Speaker 2: to bed. They used to do like seven Eastern and
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  Speaker 2: eight fifteen Eastern. This one, for some reason is ten
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  Speaker 2: pm Eastern start. That's eleven my time. Like I don'
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  Speaker 2: don't know, I stay up late two, but because I
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  Speaker 2: might not make it to the end. Still a little
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: bit rusty coming off that wedding this weekend, I'm probably
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  Speaker 2: gonna be in bed after the late swaps go down
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  Speaker 2: and see how I wake up in the morning. But
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  Speaker 2: all right, title grand scheme overview Man two game, slate stuff,
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  Speaker 2: anything you want to talk about. Just going into these
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  Speaker 2: two it does kind of look like the second game
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  Speaker 2: getting a lot more love than the first, which is
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: interesting because you know Stroud, we've seen him break slates
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  Speaker 2: before we see him Baker definitely be involved in these
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: shorter slates things I'm talking about where those two are
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  Speaker 2: more involved. So interested to see how you think it
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  Speaker 2: plays out and what you're seeing on the grand scheme
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  Speaker 2: overview going.
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  Speaker 4: In, Yeah, first point, you made a really good point,
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  Speaker 4: late swap with the biggest difference the first game already
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  Speaker 4: done or at least almost already done. Late SWAP's huge
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: shout out to Sabers him a very good late swap product.
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  Speaker 4: Late swapping isn't only just your blocked out from the nuts,
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  Speaker 4: which is like the easiest concept. If you're in second place,
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  Speaker 4: you both have Keenan Allen, the person's in first place,
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  Speaker 4: is it a big enough gap to want to make
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  Speaker 4: a switch to someone worse? But it takes into consideration
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  Speaker 4: your whole portfolio, how to get to min cash, etc.
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  Speaker 4: So late swap the biggest thing other than that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the second game does seem to get more ownership I'm
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  Speaker 4: seen a pretty common build in the sense of the
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  Speaker 4: running back. People don't want to punt running back because
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: they're backup running backs right now on this late really
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  Speaker 4: don't look too appealing. Like Naujie air Stink get much
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  Speaker 4: work the backup behind Chubb who knows about that? Like
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  Speaker 4: Gens's a workhorse, Bucket's a workhorse. So backup running backs
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  Speaker 4: don't look great, which means concentrated running back or concentrated
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  Speaker 4: ownership at that position tight end. You either play brock
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  Speaker 4: powers or you go all the you have to save.
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  Speaker 4: There's no one between Bowers the highest price at sixty three.
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  Speaker 4: I would argue that's a miss price. Still, he's too
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  Speaker 4: cheap even with his knee. But Kate Otton is the
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  Speaker 4: second highest tight end, so you're forced to save that
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  Speaker 4: tight end. If you're not going Bowers plenty, will punt
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  Speaker 4: two or tight end two tight ends is also viable.
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  Speaker 4: And then there's a handful of receivers. So my grand
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  Speaker 4: scheme overview running back's gonna be really concentrated. It's hard
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  Speaker 4: for me to get away from that chalk, And then
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  Speaker 4: you can get different within the stacks. You can overstack
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  Speaker 4: a complete game and then if you were playing one
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  Speaker 4: hundred fifty. We always bring it up on the show
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  Speaker 4: Squirrel Patrol. But when he did win his solo million,
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  Speaker 4: he did play a backup running back. Chubb got hurt.
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  Speaker 4: The lineup has to make sense when you do things
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  Speaker 4: like that. But yeah, I mean McCarthy didn't score a
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  Speaker 4: touchdown yesterday. This is essentially two Showdown games. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of random, random stuff can happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick Chubb on the slate, by the way, different scenario,
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  Speaker 2: much different scenario. But just to note that he is
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  Speaker 2: here and hoop man all the speaking of last night's game,
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  Speaker 2: the two kickers, man, you needed two kickers, all right?
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  Speaker 2: That was insane, just nuts, you know, lucky they got
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown finally at the end. But yeah, it's the
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  Speaker 2: way she goes sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've always talked about it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the kickers are just usually way too cheap, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: more times than not, if you get a game that
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  Speaker 3: is like that, I mean, obviously that's a little bit
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  Speaker 3: extreme in terms of like no touchdowns until like the
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  Speaker 3: third quarter, but you get a game like that, the
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  Speaker 3: kickers are almost they're virtually a lot to be in
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  Speaker 3: contention to be inoptimal. They might not always get there,
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  Speaker 3: but they're gonna have a really good chance to be
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  Speaker 3: in there. So it's just something to obviously keep note of.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we've been talking about it for years on
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  Speaker 3: these shows about the kickers just being too cheap, and
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  Speaker 3: they just continue to show up in optimal or close
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  Speaker 3: to optimal. But in regards to this, like the reason
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  Speaker 3: I like it, I mean, I like these two games.
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  Speaker 3: It's a kind of fun, a little change of pace,
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  Speaker 3: you can do some wild stuff, but like there's no
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  Speaker 3: like you know, with the exception of brock Bollers, where
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  Speaker 3: he he's clearly the best tight end and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: everything else is a huge, huge drop off every other position.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing like that stands out like this is the
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  Speaker 3: guy that you absolutely have to play. There's not a
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  Speaker 3: Jean Robinson. There's not a Christian McCaffrey on the slate.
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  Speaker 3: There's not a Jamar Chase on the slate, like a
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  Speaker 3: position dominant sort of player. So I think the range
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  Speaker 3: of outcomes on the slate is pretty wide in terms
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  Speaker 3: of what the winning team looks like. I could see
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  Speaker 3: any quarterback being optimal, like these running backs are, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the spends, they're not secure at all, Genti or Bucky
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  Speaker 3: Irving wide receiver position. You know, Mike Evans Laiden egg
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  Speaker 3: last week. Yes, we like Nico Collins, we like Lad McConkie,
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  Speaker 3: but nothing is like guaranteed. There's no like slam dunk plays,
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  Speaker 3: you know when you look at each position. Besides, like Bowers,
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  Speaker 3: he's clearly the best tight end by far are but
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  Speaker 3: he was banged up a little bit this week. So
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a really wide open slate, which makes
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  Speaker 3: it fun, especially if you're building multiple teams. That's the
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  Speaker 3: one thing I would say, if you have the ability
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  Speaker 3: to do so, I'd be looking to build as many
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  Speaker 3: teams as possible, even if it means going down stakes.
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  Speaker 3: If you're someone that just plays, you know, two in
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  Speaker 3: the twenty five or something like that, I'd go down
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  Speaker 3: and try to put like twenty in the three dollars
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't know. I've even looked at the
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  Speaker 3: contest and I don't know if that those that's possible.
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  Speaker 3: But I'd be looking to build more teams tonight, just
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  Speaker 3: because again I think the range of outcomes is very
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  Speaker 3: very wide.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed on that, and I won't tell Dalton Schultz.
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  Speaker 2: You said the best tight end is Rock Boers on
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  Speaker 2: this slate, because that's your boy's he's over there. You
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: know you're cheating on Dalton Schultz. But the thing you
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: said that it's so key is it's so wide open
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  Speaker 2: and to the point of people like, well, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: gonna throw it in the lottery then and see what sticks.
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  Speaker 2: This is the types of nights where you could build.
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  Speaker 2: You could build process wise an amazing lineup and throw
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  Speaker 2: it in that. But because there's so many different ways
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  Speaker 2: to get there in combinations, and it's so spread out
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: and there's so many good, good ways to tackle the slate,
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  Speaker 2: that's probably not the best way to go. If you
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  Speaker 2: truly have a lineup that you love and it's like
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  Speaker 2: that's the one you should be trying to put it
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  Speaker 2: into like the single entries, the satellites, the things where
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: you can say, Okay, that's my lineup, I'm rolling with it. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: I think you'd want to have as many angles of
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  Speaker 2: attack as possible on this slate based on all the above.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yep, that's kind of what I'm thinking.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's kick it off with the quarterback then,
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  Speaker 2: title I'll go to you first. But there's Mayfield, Stroud, Gino, Herbert.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough to say right now. I know it shows
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  Speaker 2: that Gino's getting a little bit more than Baker and Stroud,
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: but it's so close between those three, and because I
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: think people are heavier on Herbert, it swings one of
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: the two ways, right Obviously, Either people go with Gino
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: as let's get access to Herbert in a different way
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: or and more popular game. Or you do see someone
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: like Stroud come down a little bit and then it
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: lifts up Baker and Gino or something along those lines.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: But I guess the reason I think Baker gets lifted
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: up more than he is is because people like Evans,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: people like Igbuka, and more than more likely than not,
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: because of the Bucky love. It's going to lead to
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: stacks with Baker as well as people trying to leverage Bucky.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: So just my two cents on a kicking it over
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: to you with quarterback.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. Herbert's the clear I'm looking
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: at the stone right now, sabers him. You can see it,
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: but the clear chalk, and I think rightfully so I'd
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: be surprised if that changed. I do think Stroud probably
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: does come in the lowest own, as our guy Djen
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: says that moon walking back. I could see Stroud moon
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: walking back a little bit. I think that's the right thing.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: Maybe I'm just saying that because I have him the
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: lowest and I'll probably have the least Stroud. But the
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: thing when you play him, you're almost everyone's gonna go
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Nico Collins, and then after that it feels like everyone's
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: just gonna go Schultz to save money at tight end
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: because that wide receiver two is really gross. So even
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: when you do play Stroud, if he is the lowest own,
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: I think your builds will look a lot very similar
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: to a lot of other people playing those Stroud teams.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Whereas if you go Herbert, you have Lad McConkie of
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Quinton Johnson, you have Disley, you have Keenan Allen, Like,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: there's a lot more options there. Tampa, yeah, you get
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: the BUCA Mike Evans, but you also get Kato Sterling.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: Shepherd is fine as well. Like I just think you
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: have the least. It's so concentrated on the Texan side
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: that he's my least favorite quarterback anyway, I'll just have
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: the least Gino. I just think Gino's a better quarterback
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: than I think the average person does. He can sling it,
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: he now has weapons. I love Jacoby Myers, I love
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Brock Bauers, so he's probably my second favorite quarterback. Herbert
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: is like his protection last week was insane. If he's
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: gonna have all day to throw again, which he has
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: one of the best old lines in front of him,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: he has a lot of pass he can get there.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: He showed off his legs. But again, I like how
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: many weapons he has, So even if he is forty percent,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: if I get fit, I'm gonna play all four quarterbacks
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: for sure. When I get to running back, it's gonna
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: be a lot more concentrated. But yeah, Herbert, just with
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: how many weapons, I think he's in the best spot
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: to cheat my favorite Gino. On the other side my second,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: but it's pretty close to me between Geno and Baker.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: One thing I like about Stroud is I think a
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: lot of people want Nico and we'll get to him,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: and it's only a two game slate, So it's like,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: even if he doesn't unlock the ceiling that you would
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: want to Nico here, it's you know, it's not that
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: he's It's definitely not that you need Stroud with him,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: but I think that you know, might all jokes aside
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: with Hoopster earlier on the Sheltz stuff, when you add Nico,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: if you want access to Bucky, you know, at that
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: high ownership, one of the ways to slice and dice
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and cut in at least a little bit is to
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: overstack Stroud. With Bucky doing the work on the ground,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you can gain stack it go a little bit further
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: if you wanted. But I think that's just one thought
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: that I would have, and then I'd be looking to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: leverage what I'm not doing in the other game, which
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: is if I'm avoiding Herbert, maybe it's with Hampton or
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: somebody else there, like a guy like Ladder Keenan could
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: just pick up those points from PPR points and use
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: them as the Nico hope that Nico unlocks in a
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: a Manra Saint Brown type way. By the way, hoop
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: we didn't get to I wasn't on with you yesterday.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: That was a quite the bounce back. I don't know
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: if it was the Ben Johnson effect of being like,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: let him know, because they definitely let him know, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: they did not stop down the stretch. I know that
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson commented on that, but he said, what do
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: you expecting to do? That's what they do. They go
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: for it. But they were they were up quite a
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: ways when they kept just stopping them down. But your
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: boys look back and then take over quarterback here.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you get things right and sometimes you get
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: things wrong. It wouldn't be fun if you always got
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: things right. And I got that one wrong. I thought
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: that would be a close competitive battle, and it was
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: a complete opposite of that. And obviously they wanted to
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: run up the score on Ben Johnson and and they
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: did that. So it was It's kind of funny to see.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I'd say, you know, Ben Johnson, I mean, obviously you
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: have to take ahead if you're an offensive coordinator and
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: they offer you a head coaching job, like you have
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: to do that. Like and like Lions fans are like
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: sitting there like talking shit about Ben Johnson. I mean,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: like what would you want him to do?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Say?
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: No, I'm good, I'm just gonna be an offensive coordinator
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: the rest of my life. I don't I don't want
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: to be like a head coach. It's a it's wild,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: but yeah, he got the FAFO yesterday for sure, like
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: he got pounded in that defense. I mean they look atrocious,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: like absolutely atrocious. And a little look ahead our Cowboys,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Dak Prescott gets a matchup with that Bears defense next week,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: so uh, stay tuned, we'll see if we're back on
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Dak and Company. But in regards to this two game slate,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: quarterback position one thing I love doing on these two
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: games slates. I mean we had a lot last year.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I'd like to just eliminated a quarterback and just not playing.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: And you know, I hope that it's not him that
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: that gets there. I'm struggling with that. No, Will Levis, Yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I think did you actually did you talk me into
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: playing some of him in that?
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Probably he felt like he was on every two game
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: slate we had last year every time.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I fully ready to face him, But you loved him,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: and I like supporting. I like supporting the the you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the co host takes on the show, so I might
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: have might have joined it in like playing sun Jam
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: like every week in golf, I just have to to
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: support Tambo. So I'm sure you convinced me to play some.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I like making the stands that quarterback on these slates,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: but struggling to do so today just because like my
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: favorite Herbert, but as everyone's favorite, he looked great, he
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: looked actually absolutely amazing last time. I mean, he looked
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: like one of the best quarterbacks in the league. So
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be owned, which I'm fine with. And then
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: after that, it's a lot of guys you compare Baker with.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: So I think Baker, even though he's the most expensive,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: probably because you're gonna be able to find the value
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: on this slatee for sure, Like I think Baker is
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: the next owned, and then Geno and then then c. J. Stroud.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, Stroud is going to be the consensus number
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: four for just about everyone, and that's the one that
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: everyone would look to fade. But you know, I guess
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: when playing Stroud, like you're all Stroud lineups are gonna
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: be with Nico Collins, like you guys mentioned, So you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: that's an interesting dynamic to try to kind of overcome,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: just knowing what those teams are going to look like.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: But if I play Stroud, like, yeah, you know, it's
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: probably gonna be with Nico, So it makes it difficult
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: with Stroud. I mean, He's the one I could just
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: say I'm not playing I haven't built teams yet, but
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: the other three to me look solid. I mean Gino,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: you know, totally solid. I mean, in fifty three hundreds
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: are gonna be able to load up. There are different
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: ways to play him, I mean, I mean, you can
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: play with a backup tight end, which is crazy, you're
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: not backup, but like the second tight end who's getting
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: a decent projection on the slate. So Gino can be
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: pretty dynamic in the way that you play Gino teams,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: which is why I like him. So for me, it's
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: clearly Herbert, you know, Baker, Gino, and then Stroud. But again,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I'll do with Stroud. I could
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: could fade him, haven't decided yet, but I'm definitely good
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: with the other three. I guess. The one thing for sure, though,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the ownership's looking really really big on Herbert, Like that's
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: the one that everyone wants to go to, not the
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: most expensive, probably should be the most expensive, So it's
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: you know, it's something to take note of him when
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: playing Herbert. He's going to be the most popular by far.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm in on these guys and then the
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: big decision for me will be, you know, what do
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I do as Stroud?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm more interested in Stroud. I think the
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Geno side is clean only because you know, obviously Herbert
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: and Baker to me are the best two. But I
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: like Stroud a little bit more than Geno. The only
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: appeal to Gino for me is that it's the opposite
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: side of Herbert, and he pairs with the most popular
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: guy at tight end on the slate. There's gonna be
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: a ton of Bowers lineups, and then there's gonna be
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: a ton of There's gonna be a ton of Hours
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: lineups period, and a lot of them. They're gonna be there
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: as opposite of Herbert. But then you're also gonna see
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Bowers with other tight ends because he's six sixty three
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: hundred or whatever, so people are just gonna use him
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: as a receiver or you know, treat him as that
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: and put him as the flex or whatever you want
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: to look at it. So the only thing I'm thinking
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: there is if you don't do that, it's not like
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you get any sort of leverage break on going to
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: running back there. So it might be something with the
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Stroud stacks and then using the other Big three running backs,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: hope the Chargers Raiders stays on the ground, and then
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you could still use Bucky in a different way and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: get access to the other side of that first game
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: as well. But I think tons of different ways to
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: go about it. I also think there's ways you can
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: look at it because we're talking the two gamer here,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: and I know we haven't got to that position yet.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: But if I'm doing like a Baker and then I'm going,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Baker Agbuca auton where most people will
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: have the sixty eight hundred for Evans there as well,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I might just put a Bowers into that or something
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and then do it differently that way, because I think
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: that's how you're gonna get different where a lot of
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: people will have. You know, gent how do you say
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: that genty at seven k in that spot? I could
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: have Bowers at sixty three hundred and just leave the money,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: for example, So I'm gonna keep it, you know, short
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and suite at a quarterback. I'm playing all of them,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: and it's not a cop out, it's all. It's not
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: who you play, it's how you play. On portfolio diversification,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: for the win. Definitely gonna be mixing it up at quarterback.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: My stands will be when we get to the other position.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: So I'll kick it to you title for running back
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: if you want to go there next. But Bucky looks
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: like the main but then you do still have Hampton
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and Genty right behind him, and then you know Chubbs,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the guy that's not getting any love at all.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just gonna play those four though. Like I
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: That's one thing I said, I'm gonna keep my running
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: back condensed if it's a Nasey Hairstay or Rashad White day,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: because I don't I'm not. I don't think I'm playing
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: one to fifty in the twenty if I was. Of course,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: maybe a couple sprinkles here and there, but most people
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: aren't playing one fifty. Bucky's my favorite. The usage was phenomenal.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Rashad White didn't get nearly as much work. I guess
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I shouldn't even say that I expected, but the gap
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: was wide enough, like seventy five percent for Bucky. Second
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: best touch on prop minus one oh five, can catch
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: passes out of the backfield. He's my favorite. Hampton Genty
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: is pretty close after that, Hampton, the best touchdown prop
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: on the slate minus one twenty five. You can definitely
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: play Hampton with Herbert because I do like Gino Genty
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: can also catch passes. But when like, if I am
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: playing Gino, maybe I'm less likely to play gent who's
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: gonna be Mega Chalk can play Hampton Bucky there get
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: a little different. Nick Chobb. I don't know what thirty
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: two percent owned, probably somewhere about thirty. Like, I'm not
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: convinced he's anywhere near old Nick Chubb. And if he
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: doesn't get like full point PPR sites, it's a lot tougher,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: but he's coming in half the ownership, I guess is
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: the other three as a starting running back. The problem
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: why I can't get to like the woody marks is
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: like Dari and Goombawale got decent amount of work, probably
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: looks like they're third down. Jacob Johnson got a little,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: they're Damian Pierce. There was just too many guys getting
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: mixed in after Chubb where I'm not going to take
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: that fly here, but really easy for me, no hot takes,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: but all like if you fade Nausey White, all those
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: other guys that could add up to like twelve percent
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: something like that, and that could pay the rake if
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: it doesn't get there.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just saw the main slate this week. Jayden
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Daniel's status in doubt with the knee, so people looking
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: ahead underwent his MRI today, So we'll see how that
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: goes as the week goes on. But yeah, one thing
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I'll say for sure, the Chap mentioned it too, Like
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: with Chubb, if you're not going again, it's you, it's
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: opposite side of Bucky, it's in head of Nico Collins.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So like that's what I was saying earlier. Taking my stands,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I'll definitely have probably more Chubb than most in this spot,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: just because I don't even believe he's coming in at
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: thirty three percent right now. Again, we only have our
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: initials out so far, and different ownership projections around the industry.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: We'll see. But to me, it's so easy to get
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: to Irving Hampton or Gentee. On top of the fact
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: that there's gonna be people playing double tight end, there's
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: gonna be people playing there's a ton of guys that
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: are gonna be playing or multip people that are gonna
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: be playing. Multiple guys in the wide receiver position. Right
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and use the flex for that between Evans Igbuca, Lad Keenan.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I know we're going there next, but Myers Nico, that
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: already fills it out. You got Boers, you got the
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: additionals that people are interested in aughtn or Schultz with
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: their stacks. So I just don't see a world where
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Chubb even gets close to that. And that's where you
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: know you talk about moon walking backward, it's gonna be
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: him as well. So I do have love for that,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: especially opposite side. We saw it yesterday bres Hall. In
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: this people are gonna try and compare status of the
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: players here. That matters, sure, but it's a two games slate.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: It matters a lot less if you don't know, But
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: just to say it, like Breethe Hall versus James Cook yesterday,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: prime example, It's like if you weren't on Josh Allen,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you were on the opposite side of that game. You
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: know you were on Reese Hall. The Bills are the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: ones that likely to pound them. And you see James
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Cook just light up the slate and everyone at twenty
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: three percent ball si he was unowned. I'm just saying
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the twenty three percent Breese Hall was like, Wow, what
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: are we doing with this? So you know, that's kind
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: of the way it shakes out sometimes sometimes who what
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: are you thinking here.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: About the same thing. It's a tough position. I mean,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Bucky for sure, his game fits DK. He's he's number one,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: uh you know, genty for his workload, it's it's going
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: to be a huge workload for him probably all season long.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Hampton fine, but after that, it's like, man, do you
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: really want to click the button on any of these guys?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Like to me, even like Nick Chubb does not look
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: all that all that appealing to me. I just wanted
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: to see what's sort of so you got thirteen carries
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: last week for sixty yards one target, Like he's got
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: to find the end zone least once. So I don't know,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: it's a tough one for me. And then it's like
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: all these other scrubs like Naji Harris, It's like I
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: wish they gave these guys like better price, like cheaper
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: prices to entice you a little bit more like take
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: them down like to be right there, that's just not
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: much of a difference. It is a two games slate,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: though anything can happen, But I'm just not I'm not
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: even excited at the guy's up top, Like I like
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Bucky for sure, Like I think Bucky is, you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: by far, the best play on the slate at the
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: running back position. But I'm not thrilled about Genty or
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Hampton to be honest with you. But it's like you
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: have to play two of them. It's a two game slate,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: we're limited on the options. It's just to me, the
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: worst position by far on the slate. But to me
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: it's it's Bucky probably as much Bucky as I can get.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Then after that, like I don't know, like I'm whatever,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Like you got to play one of Genty and Hampton.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: That's what a majority of my lineups will probably look like.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I don't want to mess with those other dudes, to
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: be honest.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I'll say, Title usually has this stuff
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: up and obviously different with the rush and receiving mix.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I get that it is a PPR site, it is
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a two games slight et cetera, et cetera. But plus
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: one oh five Bucky anytime, plus one thirty five Chubb
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: home favorites the Texans twenty three points implied team total
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: twenty two and a half. Whatever, you look at like,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: this is to me not that crazy in regards to
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: everything else you're doing on the slate. Again, that's why
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: we have the portfolio, like Hoop said, the more lineups
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: if you want to spread it out. But I just
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: don't think the Chubb situation is that crazy beyond the
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: fact of how can go But think about it too,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: there is still evans Igbuka. We saw Sterling Shepherd in
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the mix a little kadot, and there's still other guys
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: there that could be involved. So and by the way,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: you're allowed to play them both together too for anyone wondering.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: So I would say that the Chub spot is a
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: little bit more interesting to me than some of the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: other And that's also that is where I'm confident, is
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: that Hampton and Genti are going to be the ownership
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: projections we have them at because most people, even while
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: they're involved in that game, are willing to put them
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: in there. This is a way that you can turn
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: your your more Chalky game lineups with the Herbert stuff,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the Maconkey, the Keenans, the Jacobe Meyers, the Bowers. Well,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: you just I was gonna say, insert Chubb and you
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: get yourself a little bit different. But yeah, I know
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: that the chat's already been all over those jokes, but
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: just to note it, you can definitely put Chubb into
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: those lineups and end up with just a little bit different,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: and then you still have all the other normal two
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: gamer stuff that you can do, leaving salary, building it
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: out a little bit differently, playing certain guys against each
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: other that might not be comboed as commonly, all that stuff. So,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I see it a bit different. What
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: are the other props that you see their title? I
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: couldn't get my book to load here.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's pretty like rushing attempts. When you're
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: comparing Chubb to Hampton, it's thirteen and a half for Chubb,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: fourteen and a half for Hampton. Pretty solid, or like
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: very similar to that at the ownership discounting price, rushing
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: yards forty nine and a half for Chubb, fifty six
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: and a half for Hampton. Again, Hampton has more pass
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: catching ability out of the backfield. I think that's just
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: the big difference. And it just really feels like, outside
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: of Nico Collins and probably Dalton Schultz, like people just
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: aren't gonna play Houston that much so.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna say that too, starting to
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: cut off, but now you brought that up, I just
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: want to add that piece and then I'll let you
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: take it with wide receiver anyway, because it kind of
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: goes to that point. It's like I just said, though
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: their favorites at home with twenty. If you don't believe
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: in Chubb, fine, then do you believe in Stroud? Like
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: who's doing what? It's not gonna be Nico Collins getting
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: eighty points on this slate and it just call it
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: a day, like it's got to get there some way.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: And even if Collins does do that, he's the only
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: one really getting anything from that side. It doesn't have
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to involve Stroud, but it's likely to be, you know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: something going on there if they're actually putting up their
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: twenty three points. I guess that was why I wanted
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: to talk and finish out the running back. Thoughts on
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the Chubb stuff is Yeah, in the Hampton one you
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: brought up interesting, Even the Bucky anytime touchdown thing is interesting.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: There's other ways to get there. But I just don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: think he's as crazy as it kind of seems on paper.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: But anything else there if not go to wide receiver.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: That was just one my two cents.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Dad on Yeah. And the last thing again, why I
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: think Texas and even the Texans and even Strout like
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: moonwalking back little, they just have so many outside of
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Nick Chubb. Again, they're mixing in two three other running
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: backs at receiver outside of Nico Collins, Hutchinson, Watson, Jaden
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Higgins and Noel all got multiple snaps like they're all
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: in the rotation. And then Dalton Schultz even like Kate
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Stover is involved there.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: So there's just.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: It's the least concentrated room. There's a lot more people
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: rotating in and that's obviously not good for dfs, but
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: it'll have suppressed ownership. And if they do win this
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: game at home, they put up twenty five points one
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: touchdown from Hutchinson, Watson, Higgins, Noel, Like if I knew
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: any of them would score, I would definitely be way
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: overweight because that's how you can win a solo shipper.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: It's just the floor is a lot lower on them.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: So taking receiver, I like just going team by team
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: on the bucks. I am definitely playing Mike Evans at
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: sixty eight hundred BUKA looked really good too. Obviously that
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: stuff's easier to play with Baker. I know some people
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: will be worried about Stingley following Mike Evans. Stingley's a
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: great corner, so if you want to get away from that.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: We always talk though one game, two games like it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: just look at yesterday's game. Jefferson was on the winner
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: at eleven. Like if one game completely bus a lot
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: of things can happen. So Sterling Shepard is the wide
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: receiver three in Tampa, and I'd be more inclined to
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: play him with Baker stuff. His snap participation was good.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Texans side. Again, it's if you want to get different,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: these are the spots you can. It's just going to
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: be Nico for me, and I think I'm way under Nico.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be way under the Texans period. But then Hutchinson,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: he did lead. Here's the number two in routes behind
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Nico Collins at a very cheap price tag of thirty
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: two hundred at low ownership. He's someone that I'm going
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: to be playing a little bit of Vegas. They're my
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: favorite wide receiver room. I think Jacoby Myers is my
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: favorite receiver first price the PPR upside, I'll have a bunch.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: It makes a lot work. Trey Tucker though, big play
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: upside guy. I like Geno Smith, his ownership's low. He
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: got in the box last week. And then Dante Thornton.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: I mean these got like big play upside a guy,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: a preseason baller. His SNA participation participation killed Jack Beck,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: who was the competing for the wide receiver three roles.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: So Thornton, Tucker myers Meyer is gonna be owned. Tucker
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Thornton won't at all. I like getting different going to
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: that game. You can play it in Herbert Stax is
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: a way to get different. On the other side, you
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: can play with Gino, who's already gonna be relatively low owned.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: And then yeah, I mean Keenan McConkie Quinton Johnston. If
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: this offense rolls like they did with Herbert, Trey Harris
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: isn't seeing too much, Lambert's not seeing too much. They
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: run a lot of a loving personnel. Keenan looks really
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: really strong. That rapport is good with Herbert. So I
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: don't know if there's any hot takes. It's just your
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: lineups have to make sense to you. If I'm playing Baker,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: I'm more likely to play Sterling Shepherd. If I'm playing Stroud,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: I'm more likely to play Hutchinson. If I'm playing Gino,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I'm more likely to play Thornton or Tucker. Stuff like that.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, you know a little more, a
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: little more QB new was first. Is the the Joe
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Burrow surgery confirmed? Just working out the details now. So
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: it sounds like you must have got the second opinion
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: and Jake a different Burgher Browning is gonna be their guy,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Jake Browning. We'll see y'all got the someone did post yesterday.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: By the way, he's got more comeback wins than Joe
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Burrow in much shorter opportunities and spots. But yeah, that's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: just one note. I think this is what everybody sees.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: You know, we kind of tied that in already definitely
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: a thing, but so did you know Pittsburgh the Jets
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Week one looked like the lowest scoring game the game
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: yesterday with New England and Miami. Not a lot of
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: people were high besides the Drake may stuff, but I
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: mean beyond that, there was a lot of people going
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: different ways there. That's a ton of points that got
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: put up so you just never know where those points
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: are gonna come in. But the best time to take
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: advantage of that is going to be during these two
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: games slates. I'll give a few of mine hoop and
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: then kick it to you, but I'll save my bucks
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: stuff because everybody knows where they're going there. Evan Zigbuka,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: there's nothing secret there. But I think it's more when
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: we get to tight end with the Kate Otten and
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: how I'll do it, not who I'm playing, how I'm playing.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: On the other side, I like Higgins to titles point
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: about Xavier Hutchinson. There's a couple guys there again, Howard
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: They everyone's just writing them off the you know, the
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: numbers are astronomical. You should bet all of their unders
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: tonight if you're just not seeing anything happening. Because Nico
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Collins can be the one off that's needed, sure, because
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: he doesn't need to do everything priced up at seventy
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: three hundred, but those other guys can get through. It's
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: in the second game that I think is most interesting
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: and more of my stands. Like I said that, I'll
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: take definitely Trey Tucker. I loved Jacobe Myers. Think it's
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: great sixty percent ownership versus Tucker at maybe sub ten.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: You could just play him instead in some of those lineups. Again,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: i'd rather have him got Myers build accordingly, but if
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: you need a little spot for some leeway, you can
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: do that. I like your Thornton call as well, but
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: the biggest one for me is on the Chargers side.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: And people will definitely remember this. But like Quentin Johnston,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: he's horrible. There's no way he could ever do it again.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Right who was the two? There was two dudes last year.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: There's one for sure that everybody remembers. I just forget names.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Who was the guy that just kept scoring a touchdown
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: every game? Just two guys that day. West Brook was one,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: and I'm not comparing. Everyone's like, oh they're not the same,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Like it's not about that. Who's the other guy? There's
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: another guy too that just kept getting them loose and
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: he would just keep scoring. Anyway. The point was we
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: just kept fading them and fading them and fading them.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: And right now, how could Quintin Johnston be more than
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Keenan Allen? And it looks like it could be like
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: forty to twenty or forty to fifteen on ownership from
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Keenan Allen versus Quinton Johnston, that's the opposite effect where
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: all if I had the money, I know some people
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: could just say, oh, you can leave it and play
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: a bit shocky your guy. That's true, But I could
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: just play Quintin Johnston and watch him do it again
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: as everyone's like, what now he's the next Jerry Rice. No,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: just two good games. It's definitely possible to have a
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: second good game. So I think that's kind of my
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: thoughts there. Obviously Ladd Ladd versus Nico, and you can
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: obviously play them both, but that's the most interesting one
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: because they're both expensive. If you're trying to fit in
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Bucky and you know, maybe if you're going Lad, you're
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: not going Hampton. It's it's tricky to see how it
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: all plays out. But I think both those guys are
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: thought as you know the guy, and there's other ways
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: for guys on their own teams to get there. Hoop,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: what do you got at wide receiver?
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not too much more to add. I
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: mean I was just looking up the Quintin Johnson. Keenan
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Allen thinks I didn't think that would be the case. Right,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: with the ownership being that big of a difference, A
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: lot of people are kind of weak to week and
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: they saw Quentin Johnson go off. But basically every single
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: source out there has the difference being massive between the
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: two between Keenan and Quinton in terms of ownership. So
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm not smart enough to refute that. So
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: if that is the case, like I was a massive
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Quentin Johnson hater, but if he's gonna be half or
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: more than half the ownership of Keenan, like, I definitely
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: want to take advantage of that situation for sure. But
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: in regards to the Chargers of start thereks that already
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: started or already start talking about him. I mean, I'm
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: in on Quinton Lad and Keenan. I'm gonna play most
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: of these wide receivers. I'll try to make my stands
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: at running back and then maybe fade one of the quarterbacks.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: But it's hard to, you know, make a full fade
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: on these guys. You have to play at least three,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: and then you can potentially play a fourth in the flex,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: which I definitely have some interest in doing. So I
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: like all these Chargers guys, the Raiders guys. Jacoby Myers
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: is probably too cheap. Probably the most underpriced guy on
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: the slate, Trey Tucker, big play upside and you got
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: a quarterback that'll that'll take the chances. And then Thornton
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: as well, I think is a fine option with the Bucks.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know what you're getting Evans Abuca.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: And probably my favorite cheap guy is Sterling Shepherd and
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: you know, six targets last week in an offense where
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: you know they'll throw the ball like. I really like
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Sterling Shepard. At thirty one hundred, I guess you know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: after Nico Collins, this is a wide receiver room with
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: probably the most questions. But like title said, who was
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: it Hutchinson? Those out there the most last time? Yeah,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: so thirty two hundred on a two game slate, he's
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: gonna be on the field a lot, sure, Higgins, you know, fine, Yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I'll play some, not a ton, but you know, I'm
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: good with most of these guys. Sterling Shepherd was the
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: one that stands out to me at thirty one hundred.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, if thirty one hundred wide receiver
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: gets ten like that probably is good enough or at
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: least close to good enough, you know, maybe you need
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: twelve or something, but thirty one hundred if you can
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: get you know, five catches for fifty or sixty yards, like,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: that's good enough. I definitely think that's in the run
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: of the possibility. So I like him. But yeah, I
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: mean with the wide receivers, you know, roster construction and
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: all that pretty pretty important. I mean there's a two
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: games slate, so I mean, wild things kind of happen here,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: so you don't have to fully think like correlation. I mean,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: we've seen wild things win on these two games slates.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna being on most of these guys.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Man, you never know what you're gonna get, you know,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: old Tom Hanks for his gump. But I was looking
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: up to try and find out who that other guy
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: was because Nick Westbrook Akine had nine touchdowns last year,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: almost thirty on only sorry four hundred to ninety seven yards.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: But you know, it was an interesting stat that I
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: actually still don't believe. And it's ESPN, but like, how
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: could it be wrong? Right the the Quintin Johnston's stat
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: line last year, he had more touchdowns than Nico Collins.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: He was right behind Westbrook and Keene. He had eight
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: touchdowns last year, got injured and stuff like that, but
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's still pretty crazy. More touchdowns than
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Keenan Allen on the Bears last year. More, you know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: basically the same yard edge everything like he was involved
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: in he sucked. Imagine what he could have done. We
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: watched him drop at least five touchdowns. It's like, that's
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: what's crazy. So just little things like that that you'd
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: never think when you're looking it up, you know, just
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: going back to it. But I think there's tons of
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: different ways you can play these wide receivers. All start
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: off tight end, just because that's what I wanted to
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: say on the last one note. Obviously Evans and Igbuka
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: two of the best wide receiver plays on the slate.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: You're taking a group of the top six or seven.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: They're definitely in the you know that group, maybe even
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: in the top five. But one of the ways I
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: like to play the Bucks on this slate is Baker
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Bucky and then even the d If you want to
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: and just skip those wide receivers, you can overstack it
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: even further. You can go definitely do that. I'm just
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: saying one of the most unique ways to do it is.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Think about those offenses that just sort of take up
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the end zone when they get there. You know, Baker
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: could even run one in. We've seen that. But you
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: could have Baker throwing it you got Bucky could run
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: it in. You could have Baker throwing it to Bucky
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: on a checkdown. You could hit Kate Ott And they've
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: got some injuries and guys on the ir As far
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: as tight ends are concerned, yes, Big Mike Evans is
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: amazing and that's what sixty percent of the field will
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: be cheering for. But it's just noting it that you
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: can get a little bit of a difference if you
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: just switch it up, because you know the Bucky Evans
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: combos will still be bigger than you think as well.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: So getting different that way, I think is a one
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: way to go about it. I already mentioned Schultz. I
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: think having a Stroud Schultz Bucky and then filling it
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: out with the other game is the way you could
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: do it differently, and again skip over the Nico stuff
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: in some of them and maybe it's Lad Jacoby and
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: somebody else that you need to get there. Just different
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: ways you can go about building. And then the Bowers
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: situation is tricky. The Mike Michael Meyer right behind him
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: for three thousand dollars less could definitely be interesting on
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: this slate too, because Brock was banged up coming into
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: the week. Anyway, I know, it's been like a day
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: or day and a half for now that it said
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be good, you know, and he is good
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: to play tonight, I'm saying, But like the point is,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: what if he's not after I mean, it's a two
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: games slate. What if he's the spot where it just
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: re reaggravates or something comes up. It doesn't mean Meyer
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: will for sure be the beneficiary. But so there's that
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: process to playing one versus the other. There's also the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: thought process to just skip out on him and have
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: an underweight approach or you know, all go go way
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: overweight on him. But once he's already fifty percent, it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: gonna take a lot of your lineups to to get
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: that much action on him. Hoop, I'll go to you.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, And some more days. News is just
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: rolling in for next week. JJ McCarthy and Aaron Jones out.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I was able to sneak in some Bengals plus four
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: and a half before they shut it down. So that's
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: a a good start to the week, right there.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know beals.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take points in that game, would I if
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I get points in that game? On taking it? Taking
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: the under? Yeah, Carson Wentz, let's go Carson Wentz.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Jake Browning down.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: But it's our old buddy is going to be really
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: excited about that. You know. I kept betting the Carson
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Wentz MVP for plus thirty. But he'll be he'll be
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: pumped up about that.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Wait, was scantling? Was it scantling that you were thinking
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: of Tamba last year?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Maybe I was talking about Yeah, I mean.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he just cut he went through a little stretcher.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: It was, that's right. He was on a heater to start.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: It was like early on in the year, I believe.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: They kept saying like this guy just keeps getting open
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and all they do is throw the tds. Westbrook and
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Keene was for sure the guy that we were talking
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: about because it was like on five less than five
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: hundred yards. He had nine touchdowns, which is up there
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: with Drake London, Addison, DeVante Adams, you know, Kittle Higgins,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson had ten, Brian Thomas had ten. This man
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: had nine and that's crazy.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Uh, A lot of different things you can do at
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: tight end, Like Okay, Bowers for sure number one, Like
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be hot. But like you said, like if
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: you want to make a play on Bowers, it's almost
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: like you got to just go all in, like if
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: you want to get overweight. I mean it's tough. He's
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: gonna be at least fifty percent owned because after him,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: it's a bunch of you know, not so stable plays.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: So I mean, definitely gonna play Bowers. But you can
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: do a lot double tight end clearly in play you can.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: You can you do a Bowers and Mayor team, like
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: two tight ends from the same team. Like two games late,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: crazier things have happened. You got the situation with the
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Chargers where both Conklin and Disley are getting work. Disley
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: was kind of the guy last year, but I think
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Conklin was out there to like start the game last week.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: So I'm fine with mixing in both of those guys.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Conklin had two for two for fifty, so he did
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: something and a rush attempt last week. So you can
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: play all these guys, I think, and you can play
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: two of them, uh in the same line double tight
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: end clearly uh in play. But you know, bours, obviously
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: that the clear number one. I'll have exposure to most
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: of these guys, and you guys know who my favorite
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: is for sure. I mean gotta say, I think thirty
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: two hundred Dalton Schultz. I mean, I just gotta gotta continue,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: right it. So maybe that's how I get different with
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Maybe there it is that you play Stroud Fade Nico
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz too tight end game or two touchdown game?
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Good to go there it is man Thursday, yeah, right off,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: right off the Monday. Maybe a showdown, right I can
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: get I can get out of there, a showdown slate tonight.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I don't even gotta wait till next Thursday.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Don't forget about Harrison. Bryant too signed up off the
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: practice squad, and they got those guys on IR. They're
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: missing a couple of their other tight ends. So maybe
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: maybe it's Bryant that comes in off the IR and
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: or comes in off the the practice squad and gets
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the job done. They signed him and then he moved
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: up this week, so it should be him. I think
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: he's two hundred bucks in the showdown slate as well,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: so he's a little bit interesting there for that game.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Those are going to play it a little bit earlier,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: so I think he's he's an interesting spot. The chat
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: said something earlier too. I wanted to bring up, Oh,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Steven our Man. Shout out to Stephen Neighbors. This is
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: a secret sauce of Shipping Nation, the Saber Partnership. If
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: you go to the site under Sabersim and you're a
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: member of course, and there's tutorials, buy sheets, tons of them,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: and then if you go live Q and A, it
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: doesn't even matter that it's for last week's slater or
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: the week before. They're dated so you can see them.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: But Rio and Sheets do a premium Saber series where
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: they go through and break down not just how to
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: use Saber, but how to apply it to the slate
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: at hand. So these are phenomenal and you only get
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: them as a member of Ship Nation, so anyone using
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Sabersim it's an added bonus. And then you also get
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: in ship at games if you're a Shipping Nation member
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: with Sabersim, so there's a lot of benefits if you're
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: using saber sim with another site to drop that jump ship,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: come over to ship Nation and add on the package
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: with Sabersim where you get all the additional benefits including
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: ship at Games, which is still at seventy nine thousand,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty seven dollars. Plus. We'll have some
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: other big events this week coming up, because we got
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: the five to fifty five million again for the share ship,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: and I might do a few I might throw a
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: few extra in that this week. I couldn't get nearly
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: as much action as I would have liked being away
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: for the wedding last weekend, so we get the encore
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: this week. I didn't get crushed this past weekend. I
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: had some some of the goff stuff. I had some
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: of the Jacksonville s Cincy game, which would have worked
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: better if Burrow had a stayed in it. But the Dallas,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: New York game had a ton of neighbors, Lamb, some
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Turpin even things like that in there. So I think
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: this this week I might play some five fifty fives
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: and dedicate a little bit of that to the pool
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: as well, see if we can boost this thing up
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit. So it should be a fun week
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: ahead anything title on Kickers and d's for the showdown stuff.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I mean D's of course going to be in the
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: mix in the main two gamer, but anything else you
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: want to add just to wrap up these two games.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just my quick thoughts time. And then because I
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: misspoke earlier, Stover is on the IR so Harrison Bryant,
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: like you said, got called up. I mean, people, remember,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: if you've been playing DFS for any bit of time,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns He's he actually can catch the ball and
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: get up field, so it's not the craziest play. They
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: did run decent amount of twelve personnel too. My thoughts
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: is just I'm I mean, Bowers is by far the
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: best I want to I mean, he had one hundred
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: yards at half. If he kept going, he would a
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: nukedad slads. I just want to play a bunch of him.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: And then I'm seeing double the ownership on Schultz than Oughten.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: I just give me out and at half the ownership,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: I'll continue the underweight Houston Texans all the way around.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: I'll play Herbert a decent amount. I prefer Disley to Conklin.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: He still did out snap them, but yeah, Conkland will
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: be really low owned. He has some big play upside,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: I guess, so he'd be fine kickers d I mean,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: I'm just I'm gonna keep playing these kickers until they
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: bust in a dome for that featured game too. In
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: the Chargers and the Raiders, I mean they're in the
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: dome as well for the first game, so they both
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: continue to look under priced. Defense this is I mean,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Vegas is definitely my least favorite with just how good
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: that offensive line is for the Chargers. I think there's
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: a lot less sacks and opportunity that way. Both Houston
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: and Tampa. I mean, Baker takes a lot of sacks.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: I like Houston quite a bit there. Yeah, then Chargers.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: I mean defense I'm always I'm not really strict about
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: but I do know, just looking on paper thinking I
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: know football, that the Raiders look like the worst and
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: the Texans look like the best. So that's where I'm at.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: One of the things I know about the two gamer
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: on DraftKings, it's like five hundred k to first, and
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I think it's five hundred bucks to ten. It's not
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: that bad, but just don't get me wrong, it's just
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: not great. So when people are talking about, you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: pulling levers or playing their GPPs and you know how
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: much risk and all that stuff. I mean it is
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: you are playing for first and it can still be
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: chopped and so on and so forth. But when you
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: have Chubb and the Texans D, I don't care what
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: you like or what you think or what then like,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: do whatever, do your own process. I'm saying, like, the
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: reason I just don't care and we'll definitely have that
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: is because it's Chubb versus Bucky, It's the Texans D
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: versus Bucky. Most won't have those in the common. You
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: put yourself in a pool that is so separate from
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: the majority of the pool that this may be the
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: pool with the p in it in this analogy, but
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it's not, and that ends up being
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the one you need to be in and the other
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: one falls apart, all the people crash out and you
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: sit there and cheers a drink and laugh at the
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: other pool. So this could be the case, and on
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: a two gamer, I'm gonna take those shots. I'm gonna
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: take those opportunities. This is definitely one. It looks to
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: me like the Raiders will be the lowest OneD. But
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: you know, the Texans Chubb side of things makes a
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: ton of sense. The other version of that is obviously
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: a more popular running back, but his d is not
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: popular with him, and that's gente. With the Raiders you're
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: going up against so much. I mean, the highest ooned quarterback,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: one of the highest ooned running backs, one of the
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: highest home wide receivers, and then even the cheapest value.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Guy Myers is probably the one, but Keenan Allen not
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: that far behind. So I think that's the best way
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: to look at it, to be able to move it
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: across that way and just again get different in some
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: of those lineups.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Thanks so our guy David, he hit us up
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: yesterday as well. How much would you allow naked quarterback
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: in your stacks? I don't think it's gonna happen all
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: that often, just because there's only two games. So if
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: you just go in there and run your teams, I
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: think it's gonna be very rare to get teams that
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: have naked quarterback. I would be fine with it, I
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: think for most of these guys. If it hit, I
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: don't think I'm gonna fully exclude it, but I'd be
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: willing to bet. When you go in and build teams,
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: it's just gonna naturally put them together. Just because there's
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: only four teams to choose from a limited number of
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: wide receivers, you're gonna have some sort of stack in there.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Is my take. I don't know what you guys think.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be just pretty tricky. You
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: can let I mean, the question was worded is like,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: how much would you allow? I would probably allow what
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: it gives me once I see, but I just I
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: just don't see it on this type of slate, Like
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I don't see any version of like even like a
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Herbert spreads it out a ton. So you can say, Okay,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: everybody gets just kept to the lower number. Hampton just
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: gets enough, lad just gets enough.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Require rushing touchdowns definitely, I mean it would definitely require
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: at least one rushing touchdown.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: It would be so tricky to get to them because
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: there's only three other teams on the slate outside of
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: that quarterback and whoever got there with them, it's still
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: somebody's gonna be enough that would make it. I'd be
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: looking for unconventional stacks, and they're not like that unconventional,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: But like I said, I would prefer something like a
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Baker Bucky Aughton and no Evans and Igbuca. You are
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: still stacking for sure, just in a different way. But
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I don't see a world where we just get a
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: completely naked quarterback here without something attached. Should be tricky
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: to see it happen. I think title any thoughts.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I, like I said, I don't really x
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: too much out pre flop. When I ran my bills,
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: I was looking at fifty teams. I had one. Yeah,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: pre flop. You like that you.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Still living at the tables over there? Yeah, go ahead.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And when I say pre flop, I just mean
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: I don't be exing stuff out or changing exactly what
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: I'm doing with Saber sim that's the benefit of having
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: five thousand teams like Ultimate. If I was on Core
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: with one fifty or less than, I would narrow stuff down.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: But I had won to fifty like that, and then
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I want to click what that team looks like. I
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: can't make a case for any of it. I just
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: completely exit. So on this individual slate, I exit it.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: But on Sunday yesterday I looked through I had some
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: like justin Fields, Josh Allen. Yeah, I'll trust sabers like
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Josh can run it in twice. Fields can run it
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: in twice. So that's where I like put my iin
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: ball stuff where if I don't see it personally, even
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: though it could sim a good lineup, Like yeah, so
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: I'm playing fifty teams.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: It's a good point, and I want to add one
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: thing on it, Like again, maybe it's known to everybody,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: but I know it's not to I mean, maybe maybe
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: it's common to some, but I know it's not known
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: to every where. Everybody is a way to put it.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: But like you're in my opinion, at least, you're way
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: more likely to see a Genti Meyers Bowers with no
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: geno because the way the slight shakes out and you
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: just hammer those raiders and they come through somehow and
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: get a W and those the guys have or the opposite.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: You could see a Hampton, Keenan Allen, even a Keenan
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Allen lad and you'd end up not needing the most
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: popular Herbert because one of the other guys gets there
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: in a different way and Baker runs two in. But
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: you still have Baker with egg Muka or Kate or
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: BUCKI or something like that. So I think you're just
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: you're just unlikely to see, you're unlikely to get it,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: and you're more unlikely to see it. Anything is possible
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: in a two gamer, but it's way more likely you'll
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: see some version of the other things that we talked
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: about here. Hooped you got anything finally you want to add?
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: No, I think we're all in agreeance on that one.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just when you build teams that you're
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: just going to be paired with someone a majority of
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: the time. But like Title said, if you're open to
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: having it, make sure you look at the team and
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: have it make like some sort of sense, Like you
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: just don't want it to be just random dudes mixed
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: in there. So it would take you know, at least
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: one rushing touchdown for the quarterback, maybe two rushing touchdowns
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: for the quarterback I think for uh naked QB to
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: be on the winner here.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else Title you want to bring up when
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: it comes to this or anything you want to relate
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: to showdown. I know we did some conversation throughout just
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: around how you can work these things and how you
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: can stack them and whatnot. But is there anything else
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: you have to bring up before final thoughts?
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean not really where we are going to
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: have our content for the feature Showdown. There's like fifty
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: eight thousand people prize pools. They're good for both games.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: One hundred day for the first one or two fifty
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: for the second for the feature.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely money. And that's a good, great game.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: Like we talked about Gens Bowers, McConkie Quinton Johnson Hampton,
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: like you're talking I think real put it in the
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: discord earlier in the NFL chaft. But like you could
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: easily see a solo ship or so many great options,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: a lot of spread out ownership, a lot of viable captains.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: Like that's a great Showdown slate. So yeah, don't forget
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: late swap again for the main state slate, but maybe
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: set aside if you planned on playing one hundred bucks today,
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: said of maybe going one hundred bucks in the main
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: eighty twenty seventy five to twenty five, Like, know your
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: strengths some better at Showdown than two games. You can
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: go fifty to fifty. No one's saying you have to
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: play the main slate at the end of the day.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this could be good too, Jimmy. If you want
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: to play a Baker rushing TD like again, you're gonna
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: be leveraging that Bucky Irving spot that everybody loves, and
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: he could definitely sneak around him and get in there.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Somebody else mentioned too that Marquee Sports shout up, Hi'm
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: got the wrong logo now, Marquis. But we see you
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: said Harris should get more downs per coach Arbaugh. That's
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: a guy we didn't really talk about.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: So and Stevenson turned into prime.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Did you still looking down at my notes from yesterday?
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I met a couple of notes from which Ham called
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: me out on the first note is more t Henderson.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Backed it.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Ham backed it up.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I saw today though, because I wasn't that in tune.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: But Levin said that Henderson had three, yeah, three different
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: penalties against him. So it's like that probably led to
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: a little less work at that point that it wasn't
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: too bad. I actually thought he was in a pretty
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: good spot yesterday, but it didn't end up working out.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: The game exploded the definition of cheeks and it was one, yeah.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: This is a to do it too. But this is
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: not as uncommon as you might think anymore, Like, especially
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: when you get to two gamers, it's actually more uncommon
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: to see it on the main slate where people will
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: have like dak lamb Pickens, Ferguson neighbors and one and
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Wandale on the other side like that. That's when you're
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: seeing less of that. Who knows how that works quite well?
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: You know, a million dollars richer when that happened for
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: him in the Detroit Seattle was Detroit Seattle that one? Yeah, yeah,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: that's an example. But yeah, on these slates you actually
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: end up seeing it a lot more. One thing I
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: look at a little bit and Alex Blicklin I talked
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: about it last week on the Takedown Breakdown we'll be
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: covering starting this Friday night actually to kick it off
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: as leverage Lane. But he talked a lot about the
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: different combinations of guys being used. And I know our
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: guy Jordan Newan's was in the chat earlier, said he's
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: just getting an absolute ton of Nico Collins and Jacoby
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Myers teams together. So like sometimes just looking for some
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: of these separation spots, that's how you can get different.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: I think there will be a lot of teams that
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: have Baker, Bucky, Mike Evans book like that, three of
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: those four together. And then however, the rest of their
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: overstat goes just because it's easy to get to, easy
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: to afford, and still makes a ton of sense when
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: people land there. That's why we're looking at some of
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: those different combinations that we talked about. But hoop any
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: any of the final bots from you, anything else you
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: want to bring up.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I like these two games late. It's a little change
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: of pace. They're fun last year and looking forward to
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: it this year. And then obviously you can play the
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: showdowns as well, big prize pools for those, So yeah,
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a fun one. They staggered the games
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit. I will be up for at least
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: the first half of the first game. I promise you
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: that I won't be in bed before ten Eastern, so
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: I'll be up grinding the at least the first half.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: We'll see about the second half. But looking forward to
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: this one too, you know, for a bunch of options
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: fantasy wise, Like there's no team you look at it's like, oh,
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: this is a complete dud, not like we have like
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: the Browns or something on this slate for legitimate teams
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: for fantasy purposes, close spreads. Look forward to some football tonight.
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