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Minister for Business Paul Kirby says the CLP went about its bail bill all wrong which is why it wasn’t debated in parliament yesterday · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: And joining me on the line right now is the
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  Speaker 1: Minister for Fishing. He's also the Minister for Veterans Affairs
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  Speaker 1: and Small Business. Paul Kirby, Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: To you morning, Katie. How are you going?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, really well, minister very keen to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: strategy that was announced a little earlier in the week
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  Speaker 1: before I get there, though there were some concerns yesterday
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  Speaker 1: in Parliament. I know some people feeling a bit let
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  Speaker 1: down this morning that the attempt to bring in some
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  Speaker 1: new bail laws to Parliament on urgency by the COLP
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  Speaker 1: was shut down by Labour's majority. Why not allow this
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  Speaker 1: debate to happen, Well.
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  Speaker 2: There are specific processes that you have to work through
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  Speaker 2: in Parliament and unfortunately we saw the same with the
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  Speaker 2: fuel bill that was tried that the Opposition tried to
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  Speaker 2: bring on probably about a year ago or longer. But
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  Speaker 2: you just have to get those processes right. They've got
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  Speaker 2: an absolute day dedicated to them. You can introduce a bill,
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  Speaker 2: you give notice for cities before with the opposition did.
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  Speaker 2: You can introduce a bill and there's a process that
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  Speaker 2: you have to go through if you want to debate
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  Speaker 2: that on urgency.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying that the COLP didn't go through that process.
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  Speaker 1: It's right, So what did they get wrong?
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  Speaker 2: They tried to introduce, They tried to urgency without actually
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  Speaker 2: formally introducing the bill to start with. So that was
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  Speaker 2: why it couldn't be debated yesterday. So it is on
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  Speaker 2: the list to be debated by the same token. Our
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  Speaker 2: Attorney General has already put a large body of work
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  Speaker 2: together to bring some recommendations to us about bail reform.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't seen.
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  Speaker 1: So how long are we going to how long? How
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  Speaker 1: long is everybody going to have to wait before this
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  Speaker 1: before this debate around bail reform happens.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you've got the Attorney General on tomorrow, Kay, there'd
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  Speaker 2: be great awesome to ask him and you'll be able
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  Speaker 2: to explain exactly the timelines and the process that we're
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  Speaker 2: involved in in the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we most certainly will. Hey, let's move along, Minister.
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  Speaker 1: I know your press for time, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: find out a little bit more about the government earlier
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  Speaker 1: this week announcing a strategy for veterans aiming to support
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  Speaker 1: them and their families with employment, health and well being,
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  Speaker 1: as well as recognition. Now the government's also planning to
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  Speaker 1: increase employment opportunities for veterans in the public service, committing
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  Speaker 1: to recruit a minimum of twenty each financial year. Minister,
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  Speaker 1: what sparked this strategy, Well.
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  Speaker 2: It's a strategy that we've been working on for quite
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  Speaker 2: some time, well before the Royal Commission came to Darwin actually,
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  Speaker 2: so we did have to hold it up for a
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  Speaker 2: while just to make sure if there was any key
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  Speaker 2: commitments from that that we needed to be aware of.
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  Speaker 2: There are some federal changes that will come out of
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  Speaker 2: the Royal Commission that will take into account obviously, but
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  Speaker 2: we just wanted to really highlight two veterans that were
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  Speaker 2: absolutely concentrating on their employment. And we know that sometimes
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  Speaker 2: setting targets for public sector employment gets your decent results.
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  Speaker 2: We know that we live that targets for women on
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  Speaker 2: boards and a range of different things as government that
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  Speaker 2: have had really really good results, So through the public sector.
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  Speaker 2: Outside of the public sector, will do a lot of
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  Speaker 2: work with the Chamber of Commerce, with industry skills counsels
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  Speaker 2: and capability network industry people as well to try and
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  Speaker 2: make sure we have every opportunity to keep these veterans
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  Speaker 2: here and also concentrating on respect and recognition for our
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  Speaker 2: veterans to have a better awareness of that through the
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  Speaker 2: territory and also help and well being. And I want
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  Speaker 2: to give a shout out to the Mates for MATS
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  Speaker 2: team that have opened a wellness center on the Stuart
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  Speaker 2: Eyeways very recently and it's already packed that has people
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  Speaker 2: in there. They're doing great things.
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  Speaker 1: How exactly will the government increase employment opportunities for veterans
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  Speaker 1: in the public service and what roles might it include?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess, as you would understand, there's a massive
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  Speaker 2: amount of roles that people do within the defense services
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  Speaker 2: that can transport into public sector roles. Whether they're in
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  Speaker 2: engineering positions, whether they're in field based positions, whether they're
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  Speaker 2: in managerial roles, procurement or project management type of roles.
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  Speaker 2: There is a massive amount of roles that can transition
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  Speaker 2: and that's a big part of what we want to
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  Speaker 2: try and do and make sure that it is difficult
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  Speaker 2: to get in front of people like obviously, families make
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  Speaker 2: their mind up well in advance, and quite regularly we
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  Speaker 2: don't get the opportunity to speak to people until they're
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  Speaker 2: just about to leave the service. And we want to
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  Speaker 2: change that. We want to get in front of people earlier,
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  Speaker 2: help them and help their families, help them because their
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  Speaker 2: partners have got good jobs up here, and quite a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the partners have, there might be a capacity
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  Speaker 2: to keep that as an angle to keep people in Minister.
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  Speaker 1: I know here, I know you are very pressed for time,
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  Speaker 1: So I just want to power through a couple of
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  Speaker 1: other questions. There's also going to be a review into
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  Speaker 1: the NT concession scheme. What does that aim to achieve?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had difficulty getting definitive data. We've got a
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  Speaker 2: bit better data since the census a year or so ago.
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  Speaker 2: The initial look at our concession scheme is if we
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  Speaker 2: offered it right across the board to all of our veterans,
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  Speaker 2: difficult to pinpoint, but it's in the tens of millions
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  Speaker 2: that that would probably blow out to. So now we've
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  Speaker 2: got to try and drill into separating serving from X serving,
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  Speaker 2: separating people that have got impairments and that can't work anymore,
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  Speaker 2: that have incapacitated, How we get the best opportunities in
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  Speaker 2: front of them, and how we can turn that into
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  Speaker 2: a definitive ask that I can take the cabinet and
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  Speaker 2: say this is how many dollars it's going to cost,
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  Speaker 2: and we certainly look forward to doing that body of
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  Speaker 2: work and continuing to do it as a range of
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  Speaker 2: stuff that we do for veterans around grants and other
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  Speaker 2: schemes to get access to funding for people to do projects,
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  Speaker 2: and we want to continue to work with them going forward.
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  Speaker 1: Now on a separate topic under the fishing portfolio, we've
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  Speaker 1: been contacted, i should say, by someone who's been injured
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  Speaker 1: at the East Arn boat Ramp. I understand repairs and
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  Speaker 1: upgrades were promised for the facility about one and a
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  Speaker 1: half years ago. Where is it currently at.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I know there's some work going down there, and
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  Speaker 2: I only got this query a short time ago, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy to double down and get a bit better information.
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  Speaker 2: But the information that I had come back is that
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  Speaker 2: they do take because of the wet season that used
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  Speaker 2: to continually do damage to it. There's some pontoons that
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  Speaker 2: they removed over the wet season to make sure they
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  Speaker 2: don't get smashed the pieces and end up floating around
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  Speaker 2: all over the harbor. Now, my understanding was they were
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  Speaker 2: to be repaired, they were go replaced, sorry, and they
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  Speaker 2: were about to reinstall them last weekend. But I think
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  Speaker 2: tides and wind made that unsafe to try and do.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my understanding that there is a body of
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  Speaker 2: work that's going on there. If there's anything further than
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  Speaker 2: that going on, we'll check, because it does with infrastructure
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  Speaker 2: and planning, we'll get onto them again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, most certainly if you could hate really quick
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  Speaker 1: one Yinya Guyoula yesterday moved a motion that the Assembly
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  Speaker 1: refers to the Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee for an
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  Speaker 1: inquiry and report back to the Assembly by May. It
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  Speaker 1: is a process to review bills introduced into the Parliamentary
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  Speaker 1: for their impact on First Nations Territorians. Minister, where is
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  Speaker 1: this ash? Is it something that he's obviously introduced? His
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  Speaker 1: my understanding, but where are we going to go with this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, As I said, Wednesday is the day that
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  Speaker 2: oppositions and independents have the capacity to bring bills forward.
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  Speaker 2: He has brought that motion board was debated yesterday. There
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  Speaker 2: was a big part of our team that spoke to
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  Speaker 2: it and spoke for it and spoke in favor of it,
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  Speaker 2: of working with mister Guyle or there was not too
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  Speaker 2: many other people that spoke about it, which was disappointing
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  Speaker 2: because it is such an important matter and it will
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  Speaker 2: work its way through through the system now with our
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  Speaker 2: and go up to a committee for debate and men.
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  Speaker 1: So does it mean we'll have like a local voice
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  Speaker 1: and the federal voice.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that was initially what was being talked about yesterday
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  Speaker 2: in the initial motion. So that will go off to
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  Speaker 2: a committee and start to discuss to put some meat
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  Speaker 2: around how that might actually translate into legislation and actually
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  Speaker 2: physically roll out.
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  Speaker 1: Shouldn't it be something that Territorians vote on. Shouldn't it
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  Speaker 1: actually be something that Territorians vote on, similarly to what
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  Speaker 1: we're doing with the referendum.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as we get more information about it, Katie, and
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  Speaker 2: it all comes together, there are certainly things that people
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  Speaker 2: will have the capacity to speak to their local members about.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Minister. I know you are very pressed for time.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate you having a chat with us this morning.
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  Speaker 1: You'd better get into Parliament.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Katie, thank you,