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Grief, Growth, and Godly Mentorship with Angela Mize · Christian Business Growth Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to the Christian Business Growth Podcast.
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  I'm here with Angela Maize.
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  So Angela, how did God get you into business?
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  Well it's a great story for for me because it's a story that I didn't expect I didn't expect to be in business.
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  And during uh during COVID, I started my business in the year 2000.
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  Um actually July July 8th is when I got the EIN.
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  So it's kind of interesting because we're doing this about the same time as as when I started my business.
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  And that was six years ago.
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  I started because I had a knee replacement and I was sitting around and I was looking to find something to to do with the closure and with me laying around and not doing much.
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  And I have a background in counseling and I have a lot of different things in my background in business and different things.
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  And so I kind of prayed about
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  God, what should I do with the skills that I have?
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  And I came up with life coaching.
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  And at that time, I was like, I'm not quite sure if I really want to do this or not.
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  And so I was praying about it.
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  The the next day I had and I'm serious, it's 24 hours.
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  The next 24 hours, I had someone call me up and wanted my skill set.
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  And I'm like, I am not counseling at the moment, but I'm doing life coaching.
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  And he's like, you're hired.
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  So that was that was the beginning.
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  And that yeah, and I've been going ever since.
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  Help us understand what's the difference between life coaching and counseling.
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  Well, it's a very good question.
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  Uh a lot of people have a difficulty between the two.
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  And as a counselor, you're trained to to go through what is causing your your issue.
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  The they're not necessarily looking at um moving forward, but at at causes.
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  So what is causes and how
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  What do we need to do in order to get past those causes?
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  So a lot of it is emotional issues, uh, things from your past uh that has stopped you from moving forward.
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  And coaching is taking what is happening now and not necessarily worrying so much about what's happened in the past, even though we do touch on that, but how do we move forward?
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  How do we get past what's going on?
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  You know?
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  So
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  great explanation.
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  Counseling is looking backwards and life coaching is looking forwards.
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  That's a simple way to communicate that.
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  Thank you for sharing that.
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  So what's God doing your business right now?
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  Right now I am I I since it's six years at this particular year has been a very difficult year for me.
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  Uh I am taking some time to kind of review my business, figure out what it is that I'm actually gonna focus on moving forward.
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  And so I have been doing a revamping and I renamed my business to
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  life chapter transformation.
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  And I really want to work with people that are having difficulty in transitioning from one part of their life to another part of their life.
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  And I want to help transform them into what God wants them to be.
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  Make sense.
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  And are you gonna share about what's been going on in your life recently, something you've gone through recently?
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  Sure, sure.
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  yes.
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  In October of last year, my mother passed away.
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  and in December my stepfather passed away.
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  And then um in April, my husband of 32 years passed away.
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  So I was taking care of my mom.
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  I was taking care of my husband.
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  I was doing a lot of caregiving.
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  So my business wasn't on the forefront of my my plan at the time.
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  But I was still working and I was still doing coaching.
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  But I didn't have I didn't have the capacity to put 100%, you know, I didn't even have the capacity to put, you know, 75% into my business.
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  You know.
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  So now now I am reevaluating what I want with my life.
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  I'm reevaluating
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  How I wanna live my life and and asking God, give me direction of where I should go.
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  Yeah.
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  So if someone's listening and they've lost someone recently and they're doing that balance between their their job and their dealing with the loss and the grief and everything, what
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  would you what would be some encouragement you might give them?
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  To trust in God's plan, that's that's what I would it's really hard when you're in the process of losing somebody.
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  It's really hard.
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  Um But to trust that God has a plan and that He doesn't forsake you, even though it may feel like it, because it does, it feels like it.
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  Um that uh to reach out
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  to your church, to reach out to your f family, to reach out to
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  To those that, if you don't have family to those that are like family to you, don't do it alone.
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  Don't do it alone.
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  And in the business balancing between the two, I would say, ask God.
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  You know, ask God what He wants you to do.
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  And for me,
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  Being able to step outside of my caregiving and doing something for someone else actually helped me process what I was going through.
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  So it gave me someplace else other than the stress and the anxiety and the the the sadness.
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  It g it takes you outside of that.
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  So it was very helpful for me.
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  Yeah, and there's a balance on the backside of that of workaholic.
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  I'm a workaholic, so I can put myself into business and ignore everything else.
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  But there's gotta be that balance, you know, take that time you need to work on your business, but also give yourself time to deal with the emotions, whether that's
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  reflecting, journaling, or whatever that is.
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  When I when my mother passed, I stayed in Florida and was dealing with all that processing with my stepfather.
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  And I was trying to do my business in it so I would set aside time for business and set aside time for family.
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  Set aside time for business, set aside time for family.
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  I was so busy being busy that the processing of it had to happen differently.
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  Cause you externally focus versus internally focus.
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  Yeah.
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  If you have the opportunity, not a lot of people have the opportunity to be able to choose between one or the other.
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  And I had the opportunity to say, I don't have to work as much.
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  And so I backed off.
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  But not a lot of people have that opportunity.
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  Um if you do, I would do as much as you possibly can to process and to spend time with that family member.
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  Because your business will be there.
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  It'll be there.
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  But your family member won't be.
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  oh And so and your emotions affect your business.
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  No matter what you think, I'm a workaholic.
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  I I focus on this.
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  I can focus on that.
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  It affects your business no matter what.
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  And it affects how you interact with other people.
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  Yeah.
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  That's yeah, even when you feel sick, it impacts how you do your business.
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  I know when I'm ill sometimes I'll I'll carve out a little bit of time in the morning when I'm feeling good, but then I'll just shut everything down after that 'cause I know I've
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  got to separate and take care of my health.
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  'Cause health's a big part of the process also, 'cause when you're grieving that emotions affect your health.
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  That's a great analogy.
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  It's like, um, if you're sick, it's it's easy to um, it's easier to say, oh, I need to take some time off, right?
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  Well, emotions with sadness is very similar to a physical illness.
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  You know, you need to be able to recover.
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  You need to be able to spend that time to say, my body needs to recover.
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  Because the the sadness.
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  And the stress and the anxiety actually affect your body worse than say cold.
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  You know, it's long term effects.
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  So and I'm feeling that now.
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  The long term effects of your body.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's it's amazing the process of the our that our bodies go through and then you and I as Christians we add in the aspect of God and i there's a peace that underflows
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  everything when you can grasp hold of who God is in your life.
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  That's true.
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  Yeah.
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  And it it makes it.
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  I I I had a lot of people ask me, especially the nursing staff, had asked me, how do I get through this?
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  And I said, there's no way that I could have done this without the presence of God, without relying on God, without knowing that there is a plan in place, knowing that.
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  where my husband is gonna go when he passed, knowing where my mother was gonna go when she passed.
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  I mean that what she kept saying to me, she kept saying it over and over, is like she was looking forward to heaven.
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  She was.
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  She was looking forward to it.
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  Her only only regret was leaving her kids.
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  She didn't want to leave her kids, but she was like, I'm ready.
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  I'm I'm going.
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  I'm gonna be in heaven, you know.
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  My mom was British and so she was like, I'm gonna have a cup of tea to Jesus.
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  So
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  A cup of tea with Jesus.
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  That sounds like a book, doesn't it?
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  It does, doesn't it?
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  It does.
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  That's so sweet.
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  That's awesome.
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  Thank you for sharing that.
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  That's fun.
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  So let's shift into our business growth concepts.
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  I know it's weird to shift from grief to business growth.
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  But that's what we do here.
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  Sometimes you things happen and and life is part of life and we still have to move forward because when we start, like you said, with counseling, when you're looking back so much,
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  you're just bringing all that weight with you versus looking forward where you can move past what you're dealing with and move to a greater future.
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  Again.
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  aligning ourselves with God and knowing what He has in plan for us.
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  It's not always easy.
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  But we have to get through it.
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  I think I I think about the Psalms, you know, David wasn't afraid to yell at God, What's going on here?
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  Why is this not working?
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  And but God but he always came to the point, but we gotta praise God anyway.
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  We still gotta align ourselves with his will.
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  And so it's whenever I have those rough times I turn to Psalms personally, because that's where God reminds me I can be emotional and still
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  Love God.
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  Um so business growth tips.
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  What is your business growth tip for today?
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  Excuse me.
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  My business growth.
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  My business growth tip is uh find mentors.
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  Find mentors for your business and for yourself.
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  When I first started, I I had been in business, but I hadn't run a business.
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  So I knew that the different parts of a business.
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  And when you're starting it yourself, you realize you have to be sales, you have to be marketing, you have to uh you have to be the administrator, you have to be the web
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  designer, you have to do all these different things.
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  And uh I I found that I didn't necessarily know how to do all those things.
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  So finding people to help you, like um my son's a graphic designer, so helping me.
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  with the web and my my graphics and things like that.
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  So sparsing out the different areas in which you don't know um and you don't have the time to learn, give that to someone else to do.
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  But in the rest, where your your sales, your marketing, how how to do the EIN, how how to run a business.
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  I found a mentor and I went through uh score S C-O-R-E.
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  And I went through them on starting my business.
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  And then I went and found a sales mentor.
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  Uh, we both know Justin.
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  And uh I went and found uh several other I found a coach that was my mentor, and I found a Krishna coach because that was important to me.
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  Uh I was doing some research, I just found that uh the value system.
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  didn't line up with me.
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  So finding mentors that follow your values is so important.
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  And that's how I started business and um and gradually grew with the business.
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  Um I became a better human being, you know, I became a better business owner.
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  I think it's really important to have mentors.
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  I agree.
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  And I want to address something that I've heard other entrepreneurs say and I don't necessarily agree with.
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  If you're listening to a podcast or you're reading a book, those aren't mentors.
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  That's a learning process.
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  A mentor is somebody who can see into and speak into your life directly that you have a relationship, a back and forth relationship.
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  Because a one way relationship's never going to help you grow.
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  You've got to have that back and forth.
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  What would you tell somebody that's like, well, I I wa watch all these podcasts, I know what I'm doing.
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  That is a good learning tool.
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  I would say it's a very good and it's a good start.
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  But it's not your business.
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  It's someone else's business that they're talking about.
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  It is something else that someone did for themselves.
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  And your business is going to be unique to you.
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  And you need someone who's going to say exactly what you were talking about, speak into what it is that you need.
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  And also
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  what it is for your personality.
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  I I think personality, your personality is represented in your business, you know?
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  And when you have a mentor, a mentor will actually adjust what they're teaching and what they're working with you on based upon what you need specifically.
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  Wow, it's it's incredibly important because then you also have someone that you could talk to.
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  That was the biggest thing in the beginning for me is like, who do I talk to?
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  Who do I who do I bounce ideas off?
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  Who who is this that, you know, I can learn all this information, but you know, I need to adjust and I need to figure this out for myself.
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  And how, how do I do that?
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  You know, and being able to feel like I'm not doing this all alone in this world.
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  And people uh
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  People have done this before you, so there's no point reinventing the wheel.
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  And so a mentor can help you with that.
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  It's like, well, take this bit and take this bit and let's let's make it fit for you, you know, and the encouragement that a mentor is, you know.
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  And that's why I I encourage a Christian mentor.
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  Just because uh they're going to base it on uh the Bible and about what Jesus' values are.
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  Not of what worldly values are about.
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  Yeah, I believe you can learn from people that are not Christian, like your podcast or your book or something.
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  But I think when you have somebody that you want to speak directly into your life, a business coach, a mentor, a life coach, whatever you're looking for, having that person
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  who's aligned with your values, because they're going to speak biblical things into your life as well.
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  And God uses other people to speak into your life.
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  And if the Bible's not part of their process, it's not part of their foundation.
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  You're missing out on a big part of how God wants to communicate to you in my personal opinion.
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  Yeah, well my my personal opinion is very much similar to yours, Kyle.
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  I actually bought books about business, I bought books about sales, uh, I bought books about, you know, being a a small business owner.
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  I and they were non not Christian, but they were very uh they were worldly accepted, you know, and they were great.
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  They had great information.
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  Exactly.
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  had to also sift out what wasn't really ethical in the forms of your value system.
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  And your values are gonna be different from my values, even though we're both Christians, you know.
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  What's important to you is gonna be different from what's important to me.
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  And a mentor will see that, you know, and should work with you on that.
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  Um, hopefully.
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  Absolutely.
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  A quick story.
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  I had a person I was gonna look to as a mentor, but he was putting together an event and he had space for twenty people, but he was gonna tell people he only had space for ten
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  people because he thought he would get the excitement.
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  Things like, I can open up some more space for you, just for you, to make them feel special.
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  So he went into it with to what I would call an unethical concept.
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  You know, I know there's an excitement factor, but don't lie about what you're doing and then call that marketing.
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  That just kind of threw me off.
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  When I heard that I'm like, there's something wrong with this person's moral.
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  radar here.
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  Well, it's a slippery slope.
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  So if he's going to lie about something basic like that, and but when it gets into something very a little bit more complicated, something a bit more expensive, uh, you
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  don't know what the truth is going to be, you know, and you can't trust that person if they're gonna lie about the little things.
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  Uh the chances are they're gonna lie about the big things as well.
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  Exactly.
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  And that's something when you're picking out a mentor, make sure you dig into their personal social media and stuff like that.
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  See if they're actually living out their faith.
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  They're not just talking about it.
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  I saw an ad recently for a spirit-led something something business growth stuff.
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  And when I looked at their actual process, it's basic business growth stuff, which is great, but there was nothing about God in the actual business growth process.
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  And to me, I think your business is your ministry.
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  You have to have God integrated in it.
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  Not just a little bit of God sprinkled on top, which I see so many people do in their business.
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  Yeah, I I mean a business owner.
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  yeah, I'm also a Christian.
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  You know, it's they got they gotta be combined, you know, because your business is who you are.
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  I mentioned that in the beginning.
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  Your business is who you are and it represents your your person.
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  Right.
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  So as we end up here, give us a little tidbit of wisdom you want to leave us with and tell us how we can get in touch with you.
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  Hmm, a bit of t well, what I was gonna talk about I already talked about.
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  So the little bit of wizness, I would say, is uh
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  Is actually don't be afraid to grow, don't be afraid to change a little bit, you know.
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  Don't be afraid to say, I don't know what this is, I don't know how to do this.
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  And go go help find somebody that help you.
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  You know, it's all right, you're not expected to know everything all at once in the beginning, you know, and
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  Honestly, I'm six years in and I still don't know everything.
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  I don't know at all.
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  And I I still have mentors and I will continue to have mentors.
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  If I outgrow a mentor, I will find another mentor, you know.
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  So I think you grow with your business.
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  Your business will be it's a representative who you are.
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  It really is.
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  And if you're willing to grow, then your business will grow.
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  Point.
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  And how can we get in touch with you?
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  Uh well you can call me at you can call me or email me.
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  My phone number is five four one two two three nine five nine five.
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  Or you can call me, uh email me at amyscoaching uh at gmail.com.
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  Okay.
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  And what's your website?
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  Uh it is uh a myscote dot com.
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  Okay.
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  Great.
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  Thanks for your time today.
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  Appreciate ya.
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  thank you very much, Lyle.
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  I appreciate it.