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S7, Ep 15: Frosty Flows: Navigating Winter Waters and Techniques in the Driftless with PJ Smith · The Articulate Fly

• 0:03
  Hey
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  folks,
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  it's
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  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
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  of
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  the
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  On
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  this
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  episode,
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  PJ
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  Smith
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  returns
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  to
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  the
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  podcast.
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  PJ
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  and
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  I
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  discuss
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  Bobbin
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  2025
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  and
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  we
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  take
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  a
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  deep
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  dive
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  into
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  winter
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  fishing
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  in
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  the
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  Driftless.
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  I
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  think
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  you're
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  really
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  going
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  to
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  enjoy
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  this
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  one,
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  but
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  before
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  we
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  get
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  to
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  the
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  interview,
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  just
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  a
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  housekeeping
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  items.
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  like
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  the
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  It
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  really
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  helps
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  us
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  out
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  and
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  thanks
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  to
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  our
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  friends
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  is
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  in
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  full
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  swing
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  with
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  the
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  stopping
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  in
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  Bellevue
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  this
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  weekend
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  before
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  heading
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  on
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  to
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  Denver,
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  make
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  few
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  ones.
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  should
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  time
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  for
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  to
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  our
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  interview.
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  Will
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  PJ
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  welcome
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  back
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  to
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  the
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  Thank
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  you
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  very
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  much
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  Looking
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  forward
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  to
• 1:53
  a
• 1:53
  nice
• 1:53
  chat
• 1:54
  about
• 1:54
  winter
• 1:54
  fishing.
• 1:55
  Absolutely.
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  And
• 1:56
  you
• 1:56
  know,
• 1:56
  it
• 1:57
  was
• 1:57
  great
• 1:57
  seeing
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  you
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  at
• 1:58
  Bob
• 1:58
  and
• 1:58
  I
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  always
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  love
• 1:59
  kind
• 1:59
  of,
• 1:59
  you
• 1:59
  know,
• 1:59
  meeting
• 2:00
  guests
• 2:00
  in
• 2:00
  person
• 2:00
  and
• 2:01
  meeting
• 2:01
  listeners
• 2:01
  in
• 2:01
  person.
• 2:02
  You
• 2:02
  know,
• 2:02
  it
• 2:02
  was
• 2:03
  a
• 2:03
  fantastic
• 2:03
  weekend.
• 2:04
  What
• 2:04
  was
• 2:04
  the
• 2:04
  highlight
• 2:05
  for
• 2:05
  you?
• 2:07
  Oh,
• 2:07
  the
• 2:07
  highlight.
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  Boy,
• 2:08
  I
• 2:09
  I
• 2:09
  got
• 2:09
  to
• 2:09
  see
• 2:09
  a
• 2:10
  lot
• 2:10
  of
• 2:10
  friends
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  that
• 2:11
  I
• 2:11
  haven't
• 2:11
  seen
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  in
• 2:12
  a
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  while.
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  Some
• 2:14
  awesome,
• 2:15
  awesome
• 2:15
  tires
• 2:16
  there.
• 2:18
  Just
• 2:19
  the
• 2:19
  skill
• 2:20
  level.
• 2:22
  These
• 2:22
  guys
• 2:22
  definitely
• 2:23
  are
• 2:23
  some
• 2:24
  of
• 2:24
  the
• 2:24
  best
• 2:24
  tires
• 2:25
  around
• 2:26
  the
• 2:26
  nation.
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  That
• 2:28
  was
• 2:29
  probably
• 2:29
  a
• 2:29
  big
• 2:30
  thing
• 2:30
  for
• 2:30
  me.
• 2:31
  Got
• 2:31
  to
• 2:31
  see
• 2:31
  some
• 2:31
  really
• 2:32
  cool
• 2:32
  patterns.
• 2:35
  Listening
• 2:36
  to
• 2:37
  some
• 2:37
  of
• 2:37
  the
• 2:37
  guys
• 2:38
  in
• 2:38
  the
• 2:38
  hot
• 2:38
  seat,
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  that
• 2:39
  was
• 2:39
  kind
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  of
• 2:40
  cool
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  in
• 2:40
  the
• 2:40
  shop.
• 2:42
  I
• 2:43
  think
• 2:43
  it
• 2:43
  was
• 2:43
  Charlie
• 2:44
  Craven
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  seeing
• 2:46
  his
• 2:46
  baby
• 2:46
  Goonga
• 2:47
  that
• 2:47
  it's
• 2:47
  actually
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  a
• 2:48
  really
• 2:48
  good
• 2:48
  pattern
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  that
• 2:49
  I
• 2:49
  really
• 2:50
  like.
• 2:51
  So
• 2:51
  being
• 2:51
  able
• 2:52
  to
• 2:52
  see
• 2:52
  that
• 2:52
  being
• 2:53
  done
• 2:53
  firsthand
• 2:54
  was
• 2:55
  awesome.
• 2:56
  So
• 2:56
  I'm
• 2:56
  planning,
• 2:57
  I've
• 2:57
  actually
• 2:57
  got
• 2:58
  some
• 2:58
  materials,
• 2:58
  planning
• 2:59
  on
• 2:59
  tying
• 2:59
  some
• 3:00
  more
• 3:00
  of
• 3:00
  that
• 3:01
  when
• 3:01
  I
• 3:01
  can.
• 3:03
  And
• 3:03
  then
• 3:03
  yeah,
• 3:04
  just
• 3:04
  seeing
• 3:04
  all
• 3:04
  the
• 3:05
  people
• 3:05
  there.
• 3:06
  Very
• 3:06
  like
• 3:06
  minded
• 3:07
  people.
• 3:08
  So
• 3:09
  yeah,
• 3:09
  those
• 3:09
  shows
• 3:09
  are
• 3:10
  awesome.
• 3:11
  It
• 3:12
  was
• 3:12
  really
• 3:12
  nice.
• 3:12
  Weather
• 3:13
  turned
• 3:13
  out
• 3:13
  really
• 3:14
  good.
• 3:14
  So
• 3:14
  definitely
• 3:15
  a
• 3:15
  fun,
• 3:16
  fun
• 3:16
  time
• 3:16
  there
• 3:17
  in
• 3:17
  Ypsilanti.
• 3:18
  So
• 3:18
  yeah,
• 3:20
  neat.
• 3:20
  And
• 3:20
  so,
• 3:21
  you
• 3:21
  know,
• 3:21
  have
• 3:21
  to
• 3:21
  ask
• 3:21
  you,
• 3:22
  I
• 3:22
  don't
• 3:22
  think
• 3:22
  we've.
• 3:23
  We've
• 3:23
  kind
• 3:23
  of
• 3:24
  pinged
• 3:24
  each
• 3:24
  other
• 3:24
  on
• 3:24
  social
• 3:25
  media
• 3:25
  throughout
• 3:25
  the
• 3:25
  fishing
• 3:26
  season.
• 3:26
  But,
• 3:26
  you
• 3:26
  know,
• 3:27
  how
• 3:27
  was
• 3:27
  your
• 3:27
  2024
• 3:28
  season?
• 3:30
  2024
• 3:31
  season
• 3:31
  was
• 3:31
  really
• 3:32
  good.
• 3:33
  We,
• 3:34
  you
• 3:34
  know,
• 3:35
  trout
• 3:35
  fishing
• 3:35
  was
• 3:36
  really
• 3:36
  good.
• 3:37
  Right
• 3:37
  around
• 3:38
  June,
• 3:38
  things
• 3:39
  really
• 3:39
  started
• 3:40
  to
• 3:40
  heat
• 3:40
  up.
• 3:41
  So
• 3:41
  trout
• 3:41
  fishing
• 3:42
  kind
• 3:42
  of
• 3:43
  got
• 3:43
  put
• 3:44
  on
• 3:44
  hold.
• 3:44
  We
• 3:44
  really
• 3:45
  focused
• 3:45
  on
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  smallmouth
• 3:47
  fishing
• 3:48
  which
• 3:48
  will
• 3:49
  definitely
• 3:50
  be
• 3:50
  doing
• 3:50
  again
• 3:50
  this
• 3:51
  year.
• 3:51
  We're
• 3:51
  almost
• 3:51
  to
• 3:52
  the
• 3:52
  point
• 3:52
  where
• 3:52
  we're
• 3:52
  gonna
• 3:53
  kind
• 3:54
  of
• 3:54
  shut
• 3:54
  off
• 3:54
  our
• 3:54
  trout
• 3:55
  fishing
• 3:56
  around
• 3:56
  June,
• 3:57
  switch
• 3:58
  over
• 3:58
  to
• 3:58
  smallmouth
• 3:59
  pike
• 3:59
  and
• 4:00
  muskie.
• 4:01
  Obviously
• 4:02
  weather
• 4:03
  dependent,
• 4:04
  but
• 4:05
  yeah,
• 4:05
  season
• 4:06
  was
• 4:06
  really
• 4:06
  good.
• 4:07
  Smallmouth
• 4:07
  fishing
• 4:08
  was
• 4:08
  awesome.
• 4:10
  Even
• 4:11
  we
• 4:11
  had
• 4:11
  some
• 4:11
  high
• 4:11
  water
• 4:12
  events
• 4:12
  that
• 4:13
  kind
• 4:13
  of
• 4:15
  put
• 4:15
  a
• 4:15
  little
• 4:16
  damper
• 4:16
  on
• 4:16
  some
• 4:17
  stuff,
• 4:17
  but
• 4:17
  we
• 4:17
  were
• 4:18
  able
• 4:18
  to
• 4:18
  get
• 4:18
  back
• 4:18
  at
• 4:19
  it.
• 4:19
  I
• 4:19
  had
• 4:19
  to
• 4:19
  move
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  few
• 4:20
  clients,
• 4:20
  but
• 4:21
  we
• 4:21
  were
• 4:21
  able
• 4:21
  to
• 4:21
  get
• 4:21
  everybody
• 4:22
  in.
• 4:23
  And
• 4:23
  then
• 4:24
  right
• 4:24
  towards
• 4:24
  the
• 4:24
  end
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  season,
• 4:26
  I
• 4:26
  believe,
• 4:27
  like
• 4:27
  end
• 4:27
  of
• 4:27
  August,
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  was
• 4:28
  pretty
• 4:29
  much
• 4:29
  booked
• 4:29
  up
• 4:29
  until
• 4:30
  mid
• 4:31
  October,
• 4:32
  so
• 4:33
  one
• 4:33
  of
• 4:33
  my
• 4:33
  better
• 4:34
  seasons
• 4:34
  to
• 4:35
  be
• 4:35
  booked
• 4:35
  up.
• 4:37
  And
• 4:37
  we're
• 4:37
  looking
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  basically
• 4:39
  be
• 4:39
  doing
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  same
• 4:40
  thing
• 4:41
  again
• 4:41
  this
• 4:42
  year.
• 4:43
  So
• 4:43
  yeah,
• 4:43
  I
• 4:44
  mean,
• 4:44
  it
• 4:44
  was
• 4:45
  great
• 4:45
  fish
• 4:47
  and
• 4:48
  you
• 4:49
  know,
• 4:49
  it
• 4:49
  was
• 4:50
  really
• 4:50
  awesome
• 4:50
  to
• 4:50
  spend
• 4:51
  so
• 4:51
  much
• 4:51
  more
• 4:51
  time
• 4:52
  in
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  drift
• 4:52
  boat.
• 4:53
  I
• 4:53
  really
• 4:54
  enjoyed
• 4:54
  doing
• 4:55
  that.
• 4:55
  So.
• 4:56
  Yeah,
• 4:57
  good,
• 4:57
  good.
• 4:58
  2024
• 5:00
  season.
• 5:01
  Yeah,
• 5:01
  that's
• 5:01
  great.
• 5:02
  And
• 5:02
  so
• 5:02
  how
• 5:02
  was
• 5:02
  your
• 5:02
  deer
• 5:02
  season?
• 5:04
  Deer
• 5:05
  season
• 5:05
  was
• 5:05
  good.
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  put
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  couple
• 5:06
  in
• 5:07
  the
• 5:07
  freezer.
• 5:08
  It's
• 5:08
  always
• 5:10
  super
• 5:10
  fun
• 5:10
  to
• 5:11
  kind
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  finish
• 5:11
  out
• 5:12
  and
• 5:12
  head
• 5:13
  to
• 5:13
  Missouri,
• 5:13
  head
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  our
• 5:14
  farm
• 5:14
  there
• 5:15
  and
• 5:16
  just
• 5:16
  kind
• 5:16
  of,
• 5:18
  I
• 5:19
  don't
• 5:19
  know,
• 5:20
  fill
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  batteries
• 5:21
  and
• 5:22
  just
• 5:22
  kind
• 5:22
  of
• 5:23
  do
• 5:24
  my
• 5:24
  own
• 5:24
  thing,
• 5:25
  not
• 5:26
  have
• 5:26
  to
• 5:26
  worry
• 5:26
  about
• 5:27
  clients.
• 5:28
  I
• 5:28
  love
• 5:28
  my
• 5:28
  clients
• 5:29
  dearly,
• 5:29
  but
• 5:30
  it's
• 5:30
  nice
• 5:31
  to
• 5:31
  just
• 5:31
  kind
• 5:31
  of
• 5:32
  have
• 5:32
  some
• 5:33
  alone
• 5:33
  time.
• 5:34
  My
• 5:34
  wife
• 5:34
  was
• 5:34
  able
• 5:35
  to
• 5:35
  come
• 5:35
  and
• 5:35
  visit
• 5:35
  for
• 5:36
  a
• 5:36
  week.
• 5:37
  I
• 5:38
  was
• 5:38
  able
• 5:38
  to
• 5:38
  do
• 5:38
  a
• 5:38
  lot
• 5:38
  of
• 5:39
  work
• 5:39
  on
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  farm
• 5:39
  while
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  was
• 5:40
  there.
• 5:41
  So
• 5:41
  yeah,
• 5:41
  super
• 5:42
  fun.
• 5:42
  Got
• 5:43
  some
• 5:43
  deer,
• 5:43
  filled
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  freezer.
• 5:47
  Yeah,
• 5:47
  it
• 5:47
  was
• 5:48
  great.
• 5:49
  Well,
• 5:49
  that's
• 5:50
  awesome.
• 5:50
  And
• 5:50
  so
• 5:50
  you
• 5:50
  know,
• 5:50
  your
• 5:51
  home
• 5:51
  waters
• 5:51
  are
• 5:51
  in
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  driftless
• 5:52
  area
• 5:52
  and
• 5:52
  you
• 5:52
  know,
• 5:53
  for
• 5:53
  folks
• 5:53
  that
• 5:53
  aren't
• 5:53
  familiar,
• 5:54
  can
• 5:55
  you
• 5:55
  tell
• 5:55
  us
• 5:55
  a
• 5:55
  little
• 5:55
  about
• 5:56
  the
• 5:56
  area
• 5:56
  and
• 5:56
  kind
• 5:56
  of
• 5:56
  what
• 5:57
  makes
• 5:57
  it
• 5:57
  so
• 5:57
  special?
• 5:59
  Sure.
• 5:59
  The
• 6:00
  driftless
• 6:00
  area,
• 6:02
  it
• 6:02
  incorporates
• 6:04
  a
• 6:04
  Lot
• 6:05
  of
• 6:05
  land.
• 6:06
  It's
• 6:06
  in
• 6:07
  four
• 6:07
  states,
• 6:08
  so
• 6:08
  it's
• 6:08
  in
• 6:09
  Wisconsin,
• 6:10
  Minnesota,
• 6:11
  Iowa
• 6:12
  and
• 6:12
  a
• 6:12
  little
• 6:13
  piece
• 6:13
  of
• 6:15
  Illinois.
• 6:17
  And
• 6:17
  it's
• 6:18
  mostly
• 6:18
  on
• 6:18
  either
• 6:19
  side
• 6:19
  of
• 6:19
  the
• 6:19
  Mississippi.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:21
  it
• 6:22
  is
• 6:22
  where
• 6:22
  the
• 6:24
  glaciers
• 6:25
  did
• 6:25
  not
• 6:25
  advance.
• 6:26
  So
• 6:27
  it
• 6:27
  kind
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  like
• 6:27
  a
• 6:28
  big
• 6:28
  rock
• 6:29
  in
• 6:29
  the
• 6:29
  middle
• 6:30
  of
• 6:30
  a
• 6:31
  creek
• 6:31
  or
• 6:32
  river.
• 6:33
  So
• 6:33
  the,
• 6:33
  when
• 6:34
  the
• 6:34
  glaciers
• 6:34
  came
• 6:34
  down,
• 6:35
  they
• 6:35
  split
• 6:35
  around
• 6:36
  and
• 6:36
  kind
• 6:37
  of
• 6:37
  encircled
• 6:37
  this
• 6:38
  area
• 6:38
  as
• 6:38
  kind
• 6:39
  of
• 6:39
  a
• 6:39
  high
• 6:41
  point.
• 6:43
  So
• 6:43
  we
• 6:43
  have
• 6:43
  really
• 6:44
  deep
• 6:44
  ravines.
• 6:45
  In
• 6:45
  those
• 6:46
  deep
• 6:46
  ravines,
• 6:46
  there's
• 6:47
  nice
• 6:47
  little
• 6:48
  creeks
• 6:49
  that
• 6:49
  spring
• 6:50
  up.
• 6:50
  So
• 6:50
  spring
• 6:51
  creeks,
• 6:52
  and
• 6:52
  they
• 6:53
  hold
• 6:54
  awesome
• 6:56
  little
• 6:56
  trout,
• 6:57
  either
• 6:58
  browns
• 6:58
  or
• 6:58
  brookies.
• 6:59
  There
• 6:59
  are
• 7:00
  some
• 7:00
  places
• 7:00
  that
• 7:01
  they've
• 7:02
  put
• 7:02
  in
• 7:04
  rainbows
• 7:05
  in
• 7:05
  that
• 7:05
  too.
• 7:06
  Obviously
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  browns
• 7:07
  were
• 7:07
  brought
• 7:08
  in,
• 7:08
  but
• 7:08
  the
• 7:08
  brookies
• 7:09
  are
• 7:09
  kind
• 7:09
  of
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  true
• 7:10
  native.
• 7:11
  But
• 7:11
  yeah,
• 7:12
  it's
• 7:12
  a
• 7:12
  really
• 7:12
  special
• 7:13
  place.
• 7:14
  Kind
• 7:14
  of
• 7:15
  untouched
• 7:15
  to
• 7:16
  a
• 7:16
  certain
• 7:16
  point.
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  mean
• 7:17
  there's
• 7:17
  a
• 7:17
  lot
• 7:18
  of
• 7:18
  farming,
• 7:18
  agriculture
• 7:20
  going
• 7:20
  on,
• 7:20
  but
• 7:21
  overall
• 7:22
  it's,
• 7:22
  it's
• 7:23
  just
• 7:24
  a
• 7:25
  great
• 7:25
  area
• 7:26
  that's
• 7:26
  kind
• 7:26
  of
• 7:26
  a
• 7:27
  hidden
• 7:27
  gem
• 7:27
  that
• 7:29
  some
• 7:29
  people
• 7:29
  know
• 7:30
  about
• 7:30
  and
• 7:31
  slowly
• 7:31
  more
• 7:32
  and
• 7:32
  more
• 7:32
  people
• 7:32
  are
• 7:32
  finding
• 7:33
  out.
• 7:33
  But
• 7:33
  it,
• 7:33
  it's
• 7:34
  awesome
• 7:34
  fishing.
• 7:36
  Doesn't
• 7:37
  matter
• 7:37
  what
• 7:37
  side
• 7:37
  you're
• 7:38
  on,
• 7:38
  whether
• 7:38
  you're
• 7:38
  on
• 7:39
  the
• 7:39
  Wisconsin,
• 7:40
  Minnesota,
• 7:41
  Iowa.
• 7:42
  Not
• 7:42
  too
• 7:42
  much
• 7:43
  going
• 7:43
  on
• 7:43
  in
• 7:43
  Illinois
• 7:44
  side.
• 7:45
  But
• 7:45
  again,
• 7:46
  there
• 7:46
  are
• 7:46
  some
• 7:47
  waters
• 7:47
  there.
• 7:48
  So.
• 7:49
  Yeah,
• 7:49
  but
• 7:49
  pretty
• 7:50
  special,
• 7:51
  pretty
• 7:51
  special
• 7:52
  area.
• 7:53
  Yeah.
• 7:53
  And
• 7:53
  kind
• 7:53
  of,
• 7:53
  I
• 7:54
  guess
• 7:54
  maybe
• 7:54
  an
• 7:54
  analog
• 7:55
  a
• 7:55
  little
• 7:55
  bit
• 7:55
  would
• 7:55
  maybe
• 7:55
  be
• 7:56
  some
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  our
• 7:56
  like
• 7:56
  Pennsylvania
• 7:57
  spring
• 7:57
  fed
• 7:58
  creeks,
• 7:58
  right?
• 7:59
  Yeah,
• 8:00
  most
• 8:00
  definitely.
• 8:00
  There's,
• 8:01
  there's
• 8:01
  a
• 8:01
  lot
• 8:02
  of
• 8:02
  water
• 8:02
  that
• 8:02
  is
• 8:03
  similar.
• 8:04
  When
• 8:04
  we've
• 8:05
  been
• 8:05
  to
• 8:06
  Vermont,
• 8:08
  some
• 8:08
  of
• 8:08
  those
• 8:08
  creeks,
• 8:09
  they're
• 8:09
  very
• 8:10
  similar.
• 8:10
  Small,
• 8:12
  very
• 8:13
  tight
• 8:13
  areas
• 8:14
  that
• 8:15
  just
• 8:15
  kind
• 8:15
  of
• 8:15
  meander
• 8:16
  through,
• 8:20
  you
• 8:20
  know,
• 8:20
  the
• 8:21
  landscape.
• 8:23
  And
• 8:24
  nice
• 8:24
  small
• 8:24
  tight
• 8:25
  areas
• 8:25
  that
• 8:26
  you
• 8:26
  can
• 8:27
  use
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  nice
• 8:28
  three
• 8:28
  weight.
• 8:30
  Sometimes
• 8:30
  it's
• 8:31
  wooded,
• 8:31
  sometimes
• 8:32
  it's
• 8:32
  open
• 8:32
  pasture
• 8:33
  land.
• 8:33
  But
• 8:34
  uh,
• 8:34
  it's
• 8:35
  really
• 8:35
  a
• 8:35
  good,
• 8:36
  good
• 8:37
  place
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  kind
• 8:38
  of
• 8:39
  just
• 8:39
  get
• 8:39
  out
• 8:39
  in
• 8:40
  nature,
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  would
• 8:41
  say.
• 8:42
  But
• 8:42
  yeah,
• 8:43
  super
• 8:43
  fun.
• 8:45
  Yeah.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:45
  you
• 8:45
  wanted
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  come
• 8:46
  back
• 8:46
  on
• 8:46
  the
• 8:47
  podcast
• 8:47
  to
• 8:47
  talk
• 8:47
  about
• 8:48
  winter
• 8:48
  fishing
• 8:48
  in
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  Driftless
• 8:49
  and
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  was
• 8:49
  kind
• 8:49
  of
• 8:49
  curious.
• 8:50
  I
• 8:50
  saw
• 8:50
  these
• 8:51
  posts.
• 8:52
  You
• 8:52
  know,
• 8:53
  winter
• 8:53
  season
• 8:53
  is
• 8:54
  opening,
• 8:54
  I
• 8:54
  guess
• 8:54
  is
• 8:54
  there
• 8:55
  an
• 8:55
  official
• 8:55
  winter
• 8:56
  season?
• 8:56
  Or
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  guess
• 8:57
  maybe
• 8:57
  you
• 8:57
  have
• 8:57
  a
• 8:57
  closed
• 8:57
  season
• 8:58
  and
• 8:58
  then
• 8:58
  it
• 8:58
  opens
• 8:59
  and
• 8:59
  it
• 8:59
  happens
• 8:59
  to
• 8:59
  open
• 8:59
  in
• 8:59
  the
• 9:00
  wintertime.
• 9:01
  Yeah.
• 9:02
  So
• 9:02
  our
• 9:02
  season
• 9:03
  officially
• 9:03
  opens
• 9:04
  for
• 9:04
  a
• 9:05
  catch
• 9:05
  and
• 9:05
  release
• 9:05
  season
• 9:06
  the
• 9:07
  first
• 9:08
  Saturday
• 9:09
  in
• 9:09
  January
• 9:11
  and
• 9:11
  then
• 9:11
  that
• 9:11
  season
• 9:12
  will
• 9:12
  go
• 9:12
  to
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  first
• 9:14
  Saturday
• 9:14
  in
• 9:15
  May
• 9:16
  and
• 9:17
  then
• 9:17
  it
• 9:17
  opens
• 9:18
  up
• 9:18
  fully.
• 9:18
  So
• 9:19
  there's
• 9:19
  a
• 9:19
  catch
• 9:19
  and
• 9:20
  keep
• 9:20
  season
• 9:21
  that
• 9:21
  kind
• 9:22
  of
• 9:22
  starts
• 9:23
  and
• 9:23
  then
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  season
• 9:24
  goes
• 9:24
  all
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  way.
• 9:25
  Then
• 9:25
  this
• 9:25
  is
• 9:25
  for
• 9:25
  trout.
• 9:27
  Season
• 9:27
  goes
• 9:27
  all
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  way
• 9:28
  to
• 9:29
  October
• 9:29
  15th,
• 9:30
  and
• 9:30
  then
• 9:31
  it
• 9:31
  shuts
• 9:31
  off.
• 9:32
  And
• 9:32
  that's
• 9:32
  to
• 9:32
  kind
• 9:33
  of
• 9:33
  allow
• 9:33
  for
• 9:33
  hunting
• 9:34
  here
• 9:34
  in
• 9:34
  Wisconsin.
• 9:36
  It
• 9:36
  also
• 9:36
  allows
• 9:37
  the
• 9:37
  fish
• 9:37
  to
• 9:38
  kind
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  spawn
• 9:39
  without
• 9:39
  being
• 9:41
  harassed,
• 9:42
  I
• 9:43
  would
• 9:43
  say.
• 9:43
  Not
• 9:43
  that
• 9:44
  guys
• 9:44
  are
• 9:45
  harassing
• 9:45
  the
• 9:46
  fish,
• 9:46
  but
• 9:47
  kind
• 9:47
  of
• 9:47
  gives
• 9:47
  them
• 9:47
  a
• 9:47
  break.
• 9:48
  So
• 9:49
  we've
• 9:49
  got
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  few
• 9:49
  months
• 9:50
  off.
• 9:50
  It's
• 9:51
  kind
• 9:51
  of
• 9:51
  nice
• 9:51
  for
• 9:51
  me
• 9:52
  because
• 9:52
  then
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  can
• 9:52
  go
• 9:52
  deer
• 9:53
  hunting
• 9:53
  in
• 9:53
  that.
• 9:53
  But
• 9:54
  it's.
• 9:55
  You
• 9:56
  know,
• 9:56
  there
• 9:56
  are
• 9:56
  other
• 9:57
  areas
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  know
• 9:58
  over
• 9:58
  in
• 9:58
  Minnesota
• 9:59
  and
• 10:00
  Iowa,
• 10:00
  There's
• 10:00
  a
• 10:01
  little
• 10:01
  bit
• 10:01
  of
• 10:03
  water
• 10:03
  that
• 10:03
  you
• 10:04
  can
• 10:04
  actually
• 10:04
  fish
• 10:05
  all
• 10:05
  season.
• 10:05
  But
• 10:06
  here
• 10:06
  in
• 10:06
  Wisconsin,
• 10:07
  they
• 10:07
  give
• 10:07
  them
• 10:07
  a
• 10:08
  break,
• 10:08
  and
• 10:08
  then
• 10:09
  we
• 10:09
  fire
• 10:09
  right
• 10:09
  back
• 10:10
  up
• 10:10
  in.
• 10:11
  In
• 10:11
  January.
• 10:12
  So.
• 10:14
  So
• 10:15
  we
• 10:15
  get
• 10:15
  that
• 10:15
  winter
• 10:16
  into
• 10:17
  spring,
• 10:17
  fall,
• 10:18
  you
• 10:18
  know,
• 10:18
  summer,
• 10:19
  and
• 10:19
  then
• 10:19
  into
• 10:20
  fall.
• 10:20
  So
• 10:20
  we
• 10:20
  kind
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  hit
• 10:21
  all
• 10:21
  the
• 10:22
  seasons.
• 10:23
  Got
• 10:23
  it.
• 10:23
  And,
• 10:24
  you
• 10:24
  know,
• 10:24
  I
• 10:24
  was
• 10:24
  just
• 10:24
  up
• 10:25
  in
• 10:25
  with
• 10:25
  you
• 10:25
  in
• 10:26
  Michigan,
• 10:26
  so
• 10:26
  I
• 10:26
  was
• 10:26
  reacquainted
• 10:27
  with
• 10:27
  how
• 10:27
  cold
• 10:28
  it
• 10:28
  is
• 10:28
  in
• 10:28
  the
• 10:28
  wintertime
• 10:30
  in
• 10:30
  the.
• 10:31
  In
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  Midwest.
• 10:32
  And
• 10:32
  I'm
• 10:32
  getting.
• 10:33
  I'm
• 10:33
  getting
• 10:33
  soft.
• 10:34
  It's
• 10:34
  not
• 10:34
  as
• 10:34
  cold
• 10:34
  in
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  mid
• 10:35
  Atlantic
• 10:35
  as
• 10:35
  it
• 10:35
  was
• 10:36
  when
• 10:36
  I
• 10:36
  was
• 10:36
  a
• 10:36
  kid.
• 10:36
  But,
• 10:37
  you
• 10:38
  know,
• 10:38
  before
• 10:38
  we
• 10:39
  get
• 10:39
  to,
• 10:40
  you
• 10:40
  know,
• 10:41
  like,
• 10:42
  tackle,
• 10:42
  why
• 10:43
  don't
• 10:43
  we
• 10:43
  talk
• 10:43
  about,
• 10:43
  you
• 10:44
  know,
• 10:44
  how
• 10:44
  you
• 10:44
  go
• 10:44
  fish
• 10:44
  in
• 10:44
  the
• 10:45
  wintertime
• 10:45
  and
• 10:45
  you
• 10:45
  don't
• 10:45
  freeze
• 10:46
  to
• 10:46
  death.
• 10:47
  Yeah,
• 10:48
  so
• 10:49
  that's
• 10:49
  a
• 10:49
  huge
• 10:50
  question
• 10:50
  that
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  get
• 10:51
  a
• 10:51
  lot.
• 10:53
  Some
• 10:53
  guys
• 10:54
  really
• 10:54
  do
• 10:54
  not
• 10:54
  like
• 10:55
  to
• 10:55
  fish
• 10:56
  when
• 10:56
  it's
• 10:56
  super
• 10:56
  cold.
• 10:57
  I
• 10:58
  kind
• 10:58
  of
• 10:58
  look
• 10:58
  at.
• 10:59
  It's
• 10:59
  just
• 11:00
  a
• 11:00
  great
• 11:00
  way
• 11:00
  to
• 11:00
  get
• 11:01
  out.
• 11:02
  It
• 11:02
  kind
• 11:02
  of
• 11:04
  helps
• 11:04
  that
• 11:04
  cabin
• 11:05
  fever
• 11:05
  that
• 11:05
  a
• 11:06
  lot
• 11:06
  of
• 11:06
  guys
• 11:06
  will
• 11:06
  get.
• 11:08
  So
• 11:08
  I
• 11:09
  think
• 11:09
  it's
• 11:09
  super
• 11:10
  fun.
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  definitely
• 11:11
  will
• 11:11
  pick
• 11:12
  nicer
• 11:12
  days.
• 11:13
  You
• 11:13
  can
• 11:13
  definitely
• 11:14
  sleep
• 11:14
  in.
• 11:15
  You
• 11:15
  don't
• 11:15
  have
• 11:15
  to
• 11:16
  get
• 11:16
  out
• 11:16
  there
• 11:16
  at
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  crack
• 11:17
  of
• 11:17
  dawn.
• 11:18
  It's
• 11:19
  a
• 11:20
  time
• 11:20
  where
• 11:20
  you
• 11:20
  can
• 11:21
  pick
• 11:21
  your
• 11:21
  days.
• 11:23
  You're
• 11:24
  looking
• 11:24
  at
• 11:24
  weather.
• 11:25
  You
• 11:25
  want
• 11:27
  kind
• 11:28
  of
• 11:28
  some
• 11:28
  time
• 11:28
  where
• 11:29
  it.
• 11:29
  It's
• 11:29
  gonna
• 11:30
  be
• 11:30
  fairly
• 11:31
  comfortable
• 11:31
  for
• 11:31
  you
• 11:32
  to
• 11:32
  be
• 11:32
  out.
• 11:33
  I
• 11:34
  was
• 11:34
  out
• 11:34
  for
• 11:34
  the
• 11:34
  opener
• 11:35
  this
• 11:35
  year,
• 11:35
  and
• 11:36
  it
• 11:36
  was
• 11:36
  16
• 11:37
  degrees,
• 11:37
  which
• 11:38
  was
• 11:38
  pretty
• 11:38
  cold.
• 11:39
  Not
• 11:40
  fun.
• 11:40
  I
• 11:41
  did
• 11:41
  get
• 11:42
  into
• 11:42
  some
• 11:42
  fish,
• 11:43
  but
• 11:43
  it
• 11:43
  was
• 11:43
  not.
• 11:44
  Definitely
• 11:45
  not
• 11:45
  ideal.
• 11:45
  And
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  wasn't
• 11:46
  out
• 11:46
  there
• 11:47
  that
• 11:47
  long.
• 11:48
  But
• 11:48
  overall,
• 11:48
  I'd
• 11:49
  say
• 11:49
  anything
• 11:50
  in
• 11:50
  that
• 11:52
  25
• 11:53
  plus
• 11:54
  degrees
• 11:54
  is
• 11:54
  not
• 11:55
  too
• 11:55
  bad.
• 11:55
  And
• 11:56
  that
• 11:56
  would
• 11:56
  be
• 11:57
  air
• 11:57
  temperature.
• 11:58
  And
• 11:59
  then
• 11:59
  you
• 11:59
  want
• 12:00
  to
• 12:00
  kind
• 12:00
  of
• 12:00
  watch
• 12:00
  the
• 12:01
  water
• 12:02
  temperature
• 12:02
  as
• 12:02
  well.
• 12:03
  If
• 12:04
  we
• 12:04
  had
• 12:04
  snow
• 12:05
  on
• 12:05
  the
• 12:05
  ground
• 12:05
  when
• 12:06
  it's.
• 12:06
  When
• 12:06
  it's
• 12:08
  really
• 12:09
  warm,
• 12:09
  you
• 12:09
  kind
• 12:09
  of
• 12:09
  got
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  watch
• 12:10
  because
• 12:10
  you
• 12:11
  want
• 12:11
  to
• 12:12
  make
• 12:13
  sure
• 12:13
  that
• 12:14
  if
• 12:15
  it
• 12:15
  is
• 12:15
  really
• 12:15
  warm,
• 12:16
  you
• 12:16
  want
• 12:16
  to
• 12:17
  watch
• 12:17
  that
• 12:18
  melt
• 12:19
  water
• 12:19
  going
• 12:19
  in
• 12:20
  because
• 12:20
  it'll
• 12:20
  actually
• 12:21
  drop
• 12:21
  the
• 12:21
  temperature
• 12:22
  significantly.
• 12:23
  So
• 12:23
  you're
• 12:24
  kind
• 12:24
  of
• 12:24
  looking
• 12:24
  at
• 12:24
  that
• 12:25
  9:00
• 12:27
  to
• 12:27
  say
• 12:28
  about
• 12:28
  one
• 12:29
  2:00
• 12:30
  in
• 12:30
  the
• 12:30
  afternoon.
• 12:31
  Ideal.
• 12:33
  Having
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  thermometer
• 12:34
  with
• 12:34
  you
• 12:35
  to
• 12:35
  check
• 12:35
  those
• 12:35
  water
• 12:36
  temps
• 12:36
  is
• 12:37
  pretty
• 12:37
  critical
• 12:38
  because
• 12:38
  you
• 12:39
  will
• 12:39
  see,
• 12:40
  especially
• 12:40
  if
• 12:40
  you
• 12:40
  have
• 12:41
  snowpack,
• 12:42
  you
• 12:42
  will
• 12:43
  see
• 12:44
  during
• 12:44
  that
• 12:45
  afternoon.
• 12:46
  All
• 12:46
  of
• 12:46
  a
• 12:46
  sudden
• 12:46
  you're
• 12:47
  not
• 12:47
  hooking
• 12:47
  into
• 12:48
  fish,
• 12:48
  you're
• 12:48
  not
• 12:48
  seeing
• 12:49
  any
• 12:49
  risers.
• 12:51
  So
• 12:51
  that
• 12:52
  usually
• 12:52
  means
• 12:52
  the
• 12:52
  water
• 12:53
  temps
• 12:53
  actually
• 12:54
  going
• 12:54
  back
• 12:54
  down.
• 12:56
  So
• 12:56
  some
• 12:56
  people
• 12:56
  will
• 12:56
  be
• 12:56
  like,
• 12:57
  well,
• 12:57
  it's
• 12:57
  so
• 12:57
  warm
• 12:58
  outside.
• 12:58
  But
• 12:58
  I'm
• 12:59
  like,
• 12:59
  you're
• 12:59
  getting
• 12:59
  that
• 13:00
  snow
• 13:00
  melt
• 13:00
  in
• 13:00
  there
• 13:02
  and
• 13:02
  it's
• 13:02
  making
• 13:03
  changes.
• 13:06
  So
• 13:06
  when
• 13:06
  you,
• 13:07
  when
• 13:07
  you
• 13:07
  are
• 13:07
  getting
• 13:08
  out
• 13:08
  there,
• 13:09
  you
• 13:09
  want
• 13:09
  to
• 13:09
  make
• 13:09
  sure
• 13:10
  you
• 13:11
  wear
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  proper
• 13:12
  clothes.
• 13:13
  You're
• 13:14
  looking
• 13:14
  for
• 13:14
  those
• 13:16
  layers.
• 13:17
  Layers
• 13:17
  are
• 13:17
  a
• 13:18
  big
• 13:18
  thing.
• 13:19
  I
• 13:20
  actually
• 13:20
  wear
• 13:21
  like
• 13:21
  a,
• 13:21
  almost
• 13:22
  like
• 13:22
  a
• 13:22
  sun
• 13:22
  shirt
• 13:23
  or
• 13:23
  quick
• 13:23
  dry
• 13:24
  shirt
• 13:24
  for
• 13:25
  underneath.
• 13:26
  And
• 13:26
  then
• 13:26
  I'll
• 13:26
  layer
• 13:27
  like
• 13:27
  a
• 13:27
  wool
• 13:28
  sweater
• 13:28
  or
• 13:29
  a
• 13:29
  fleece
• 13:29
  sweater.
• 13:30
  And
• 13:31
  then
• 13:31
  depending
• 13:32
  on
• 13:32
  conditions,
• 13:33
  I'll
• 13:33
  wear
• 13:34
  like
• 13:34
  a
• 13:35
  rain
• 13:35
  jacket,
• 13:36
  wind
• 13:36
  jacket,
• 13:37
  or
• 13:38
  like
• 13:38
  a
• 13:38
  puffy.
• 13:40
  So
• 13:40
  it
• 13:40
  depends
• 13:41
  on
• 13:41
  how
• 13:41
  cold
• 13:41
  it
• 13:41
  is.
• 13:44
  We
• 13:44
  were
• 13:44
  talking
• 13:45
  about
• 13:45
  gloves.
• 13:47
  That's
• 13:47
  always
• 13:47
  the
• 13:47
  hard
• 13:48
  part
• 13:48
  for
• 13:48
  a
• 13:48
  lot
• 13:48
  of
• 13:48
  people.
• 13:49
  Nitrile
• 13:50
  gloves
• 13:50
  are
• 13:51
  definitely
• 13:51
  a
• 13:52
  key
• 13:52
  for
• 13:53
  that.
• 13:54
  We've
• 13:54
  added
• 13:54
  them
• 13:55
  so
• 13:55
  you
• 13:55
  can
• 13:56
  wear
• 13:56
  those.
• 13:56
  Nitro
• 13:56
  gloves
• 13:57
  keeps
• 13:57
  your
• 13:57
  hands
• 13:58
  warm
• 13:59
  to
• 13:59
  a
• 14:00
  certain
• 14:00
  degree.
• 14:00
  Again,
• 14:01
  they
• 14:01
  have
• 14:01
  no
• 14:01
  insulating
• 14:02
  value,
• 14:02
  but
• 14:02
  they
• 14:03
  keep
• 14:03
  your
• 14:03
  hands
• 14:03
  from
• 14:04
  getting
• 14:04
  wet.
• 14:05
  Wet
• 14:05
  hands
• 14:06
  make
• 14:06
  cold
• 14:06
  hands.
• 14:07
  So
• 14:08
  if
• 14:08
  you
• 14:08
  keep
• 14:08
  your
• 14:08
  hands
• 14:09
  dry,
• 14:09
  the
• 14:10
  other
• 14:10
  thing
• 14:10
  I
• 14:10
  carry
• 14:11
  is
• 14:11
  a
• 14:11
  small
• 14:12
  towel.
• 14:13
  When
• 14:14
  your
• 14:14
  hands
• 14:14
  do
• 14:14
  get
• 14:15
  wet,
• 14:15
  you
• 14:15
  can
• 14:15
  dry
• 14:16
  them
• 14:16
  off
• 14:16
  quickly.
• 14:18
  And
• 14:18
  then
• 14:18
  as
• 14:18
  far
• 14:19
  as
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  bottoms
• 14:19
  go,
• 14:21
  good
• 14:21
  Gore
• 14:22
  Tex
• 14:23
  waders
• 14:24
  or
• 14:24
  breathable
• 14:25
  waders,
• 14:25
  I
• 14:25
  guess.
• 14:26
  Now
• 14:26
  Gore
• 14:26
  Texes
• 14:27
  kind
• 14:27
  of
• 14:27
  on
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  out,
• 14:28
  but
• 14:29
  good
• 14:29
  breathable
• 14:30
  waders.
• 14:31
  I
• 14:31
  usually
• 14:31
  get
• 14:32
  away
• 14:32
  with
• 14:32
  a
• 14:32
  pair
• 14:33
  of
• 14:35
  wool
• 14:35
  socks,
• 14:36
  like
• 14:36
  heavier
• 14:37
  wool
• 14:37
  socks,
• 14:38
  nothing
• 14:39
  too
• 14:39
  big.
• 14:39
  I
• 14:39
  don't
• 14:39
  want
• 14:40
  to
• 14:40
  over
• 14:41
  pack
• 14:41
  my
• 14:42
  feet
• 14:43
  into
• 14:43
  my
• 14:44
  boots
• 14:45
  because
• 14:45
  when
• 14:46
  you
• 14:46
  start
• 14:46
  cutting
• 14:46
  off
• 14:46
  that
• 14:47
  circulation
• 14:47
  there,
• 14:48
  then
• 14:48
  next
• 14:48
  thing
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  know,
• 14:49
  you
• 14:49
  have
• 14:49
  cold
• 14:49
  feet.
• 14:50
  So
• 14:51
  a
• 14:51
  lot
• 14:51
  of
• 14:51
  people
• 14:51
  think
• 14:51
  you've
• 14:52
  got
• 14:52
  to
• 14:52
  like
• 14:53
  super
• 14:53
  bundle
• 14:54
  and
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  don't
• 14:54
  have
• 14:55
  to.
• 14:55
  But
• 14:56
  so
• 14:57
  if
• 14:57
  you
• 14:57
  kind
• 14:57
  of
• 14:57
  go
• 14:57
  that
• 14:58
  way,
• 14:58
  I
• 14:58
  mean,
• 14:58
  if
• 14:58
  it's
• 14:59
  really
• 14:59
  cold
• 14:59
  or
• 15:00
  you
• 15:00
  tend
• 15:00
  to
• 15:00
  run
• 15:01
  cold,
• 15:01
  having
• 15:02
  like
• 15:02
  long
• 15:02
  johns
• 15:04
  and
• 15:04
  then
• 15:04
  like
• 15:05
  fleece
• 15:05
  pants
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  then
• 15:08
  maybe
• 15:08
  a
• 15:09
  thin
• 15:09
  sock
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  then
• 15:10
  an
• 15:10
  over
• 15:10
  sock,
• 15:11
  that
• 15:11
  kind
• 15:12
  of
• 15:12
  works
• 15:12
  too.
• 15:12
  You
• 15:13
  want
• 15:13
  to
• 15:13
  make
• 15:13
  sure
• 15:13
  your
• 15:14
  gear,
• 15:14
  if
• 15:14
  it
• 15:14
  feels
• 15:15
  tight,
• 15:15
  it's
• 15:16
  not
• 15:16
  going
• 15:16
  to
• 15:16
  be
• 15:17
  great
• 15:17
  for
• 15:17
  you.
• 15:18
  So
• 15:18
  some
• 15:18
  people
• 15:19
  will
• 15:19
  wear
• 15:19
  different
• 15:21
  gear.
• 15:22
  You
• 15:22
  know,
• 15:23
  they'll
• 15:23
  have
• 15:23
  like
• 15:23
  a
• 15:23
  winter
• 15:24
  setup
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  then
• 15:25
  like
• 15:25
  a
• 15:25
  summer
• 15:25
  setup,
• 15:26
  if
• 15:27
  that
• 15:27
  makes
• 15:27
  sense.
• 15:29
  Yeah,
• 15:29
  it
• 15:29
  does.
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  mean,
• 15:30
  it's
• 15:30
  one
• 15:30
  of
• 15:30
  the
• 15:30
  reasons
• 15:31
  why,
• 15:31
  like,
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  know
• 15:32
  every
• 15:32
  time
• 15:33
  I
• 15:33
  buy
• 15:33
  boots,
• 15:33
  you
• 15:34
  know,
• 15:34
  I'm
• 15:34
  always
• 15:34
  getting
• 15:35
  a
• 15:35
  size
• 15:35
  larger.
• 15:36
  Right.
• 15:36
  Just
• 15:36
  because
• 15:37
  I.
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  want
• 15:37
  to
• 15:37
  have,
• 15:40
  you
• 15:40
  know,
• 15:40
  that
• 15:41
  room
• 15:41
  to.
• 15:42
  To.
• 15:42
  To
• 15:42
  your
• 15:43
  point,
• 15:43
  not,
• 15:44
  you
• 15:44
  know,
• 15:44
  cut
• 15:45
  off
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  circulation
• 15:45
  of
• 15:46
  my
• 15:46
  feet
• 15:46
  and
• 15:46
  feel
• 15:47
  like
• 15:47
  it's
• 15:47
  freezing,
• 15:49
  you
• 15:49
  know,
• 15:49
  Also,
• 15:49
  too,
• 15:50
  you
• 15:50
  know,
• 15:50
  it's
• 15:50
  interesting.
• 15:50
  It's
• 15:51
  kind
• 15:51
  of
• 15:51
  funny.
• 15:51
  Like,
• 15:51
  I
• 15:51
  keep
• 15:52
  having
• 15:52
  this
• 15:52
  kind
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  running
• 15:53
  debate
• 15:53
  with
• 15:53
  my
• 15:53
  steelhead
• 15:54
  buddies,
• 15:54
  but
• 15:54
  I
• 15:54
  always
• 15:54
  wear,
• 15:55
  like,
• 15:56
  you
• 15:56
  know,
• 15:56
  it's
• 15:56
  one
• 15:57
  thing
• 15:57
  if
• 15:57
  you're
• 15:57
  wearing,
• 15:57
  like,
• 15:57
  a
• 15:57
  light
• 15:58
  puffy
• 15:58
  and
• 15:58
  it's
• 15:58
  not
• 15:58
  really
• 15:58
  cold,
• 15:59
  but,
• 15:59
  like,
• 15:59
  if
• 15:59
  I'm
• 16:00
  steelheading
• 16:00
  and
• 16:00
  I
• 16:00
  need
• 16:01
  to
• 16:01
  wear,
• 16:01
  like,
• 16:01
  a
• 16:01
  heavier
• 16:01
  coat,
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  always
• 16:03
  put
• 16:03
  that
• 16:03
  on
• 16:03
  over
• 16:04
  my
• 16:04
  waders
• 16:04
  to
• 16:04
  trap
• 16:05
  all
• 16:05
  that
• 16:05
  heat.
• 16:07
  Yeah,
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  tend
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  put
• 16:08
  stuff
• 16:09
  over
• 16:09
  the
• 16:09
  top.
• 16:10
  When
• 16:10
  you
• 16:10
  try
• 16:10
  to
• 16:10
  start
• 16:11
  stuffing
• 16:13
  your
• 16:13
  waiters
• 16:16
  again,
• 16:16
  I'm
• 16:16
  a
• 16:17
  big
• 16:17
  guy,
• 16:17
  and
• 16:18
  my
• 16:18
  waiter.
• 16:19
  You
• 16:19
  can
• 16:19
  only
• 16:19
  stuff
• 16:20
  so
• 16:20
  much
• 16:20
  into
• 16:20
  a
• 16:20
  sausage
• 16:21
  casing,
• 16:21
  you
• 16:22
  might
• 16:22
  say.
• 16:23
  So,
• 16:24
  yeah,
• 16:24
  I
• 16:24
  tend
• 16:24
  to
• 16:24
  put
• 16:25
  it
• 16:25
  over
• 16:25
  the
• 16:25
  top,
• 16:25
  and
• 16:26
  it
• 16:26
  does
• 16:26
  kind
• 16:26
  of
• 16:26
  help
• 16:27
  trap
• 16:27
  that
• 16:27
  heat.
• 16:28
  Again,
• 16:28
  I'm
• 16:28
  not
• 16:28
  going
• 16:29
  super
• 16:29
  deep.
• 16:29
  These
• 16:30
  streams
• 16:30
  are
• 16:31
  really
• 16:32
  kind
• 16:32
  of
• 16:33
  shallow.
• 16:33
  I'm
• 16:34
  not
• 16:34
  gonna,
• 16:34
  you
• 16:35
  know,
• 16:35
  if
• 16:35
  I
• 16:35
  go
• 16:35
  above
• 16:36
  my
• 16:36
  knees,
• 16:36
  that's.
• 16:37
  That's
• 16:37
  pretty
• 16:38
  deep.
• 16:38
  So
• 16:39
  I.
• 16:39
  I
• 16:39
  try
• 16:39
  to
• 16:40
  limit
• 16:40
  myself
• 16:40
  how
• 16:41
  deep
• 16:41
  I
• 16:41
  go.
• 16:42
  And
• 16:42
  then
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  can
• 16:43
  layer
• 16:44
  that
• 16:45
  heavier
• 16:45
  jacket
• 16:46
  over
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  top,
• 16:46
  because
• 16:47
  if
• 16:47
  you're.
• 16:47
  If
• 16:47
  you're
• 16:47
  stuffing
• 16:48
  it
• 16:48
  in,
• 16:48
  you're
• 16:49
  actually
• 16:49
  kind
• 16:49
  of
• 16:49
  defeating
• 16:50
  the.
• 16:51
  The
• 16:51
  insulating
• 16:52
  properties
• 16:53
  of
• 16:53
  it.
• 16:54
  So
• 16:54
  I'm.
• 16:54
  I'm
• 16:55
  kind
• 16:55
  of.
• 16:55
  I
• 16:56
  want
• 16:56
  to
• 16:56
  keep
• 16:56
  it
• 16:56
  loose.
• 16:57
  I
• 16:57
  want
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  be
• 16:58
  able
• 16:58
  to
• 16:58
  move
• 16:58
  around
• 16:59
  easily.
• 17:00
  So
• 17:01
  you're.
• 17:01
  You.
• 17:01
  You
• 17:02
  want
• 17:02
  to
• 17:02
  make
• 17:02
  sure
• 17:02
  you've
• 17:03
  got
• 17:03
  that
• 17:04
  ability
• 17:05
  to
• 17:05
  do
• 17:05
  that.
• 17:06
  Like,
• 17:07
  an
• 17:07
  over
• 17:07
  jacket
• 17:08
  needs
• 17:08
  to
• 17:08
  be
• 17:08
  big
• 17:08
  enough.
• 17:09
  I
• 17:09
  mean,
• 17:09
  even
• 17:09
  a.
• 17:10
  A
• 17:10
  rain
• 17:10
  jacket
• 17:11
  over
• 17:11
  a
• 17:12
  sweater
• 17:14
  will
• 17:14
  help
• 17:15
  you
• 17:16
  stay
• 17:16
  pretty
• 17:16
  well
• 17:17
  insulated
• 17:18
  because
• 17:18
  you've
• 17:18
  got
• 17:19
  that
• 17:19
  air
• 17:19
  trapped
• 17:20
  underneath,
• 17:21
  say,
• 17:21
  like
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  rain
• 17:22
  jacket.
• 17:24
  So
• 17:24
  that
• 17:24
  kind
• 17:24
  of
• 17:25
  helps.
• 17:25
  And
• 17:25
  then
• 17:25
  you
• 17:26
  also
• 17:26
  want
• 17:26
  to
• 17:26
  make
• 17:26
  sure
• 17:26
  the
• 17:27
  other
• 17:27
  thing
• 17:27
  is,
• 17:27
  is,
• 17:28
  like,
• 17:29
  wearing,
• 17:30
  like,
• 17:31
  a
• 17:31
  hat
• 17:31
  and
• 17:32
  maybe
• 17:32
  a
• 17:33
  stocking
• 17:33
  cap
• 17:34
  over
• 17:34
  that
• 17:35
  kind
• 17:36
  of
• 17:36
  like
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  steel
• 17:37
  header
• 17:37
  style.
• 17:37
  I
• 17:38
  wear
• 17:38
  a
• 17:38
  regular
• 17:39
  ball
• 17:40
  cap,
• 17:40
  and
• 17:41
  then
• 17:41
  I
• 17:41
  wear
• 17:42
  stocking
• 17:43
  cap
• 17:43
  over
• 17:44
  the
• 17:44
  top
• 17:44
  of
• 17:44
  that.
• 17:46
  So.
• 17:46
  So
• 17:47
  I've
• 17:47
  kind
• 17:47
  of
• 17:47
  got
• 17:47
  that
• 17:47
  coverage
• 17:48
  from
• 17:48
  the
• 17:48
  sun.
• 17:49
  And
• 17:50
  then.
• 17:51
  Yeah,
• 17:52
  yeah.
• 17:52
  It's
• 17:53
  funny
• 17:53
  you
• 17:53
  say
• 17:53
  that
• 17:53
  because
• 17:53
  I've
• 17:54
  got
• 17:54
  a
• 17:54
  Sims
• 17:54
  wind
• 17:55
  stopper
• 17:55
  stocking
• 17:55
  cap
• 17:56
  that,
• 17:56
  like,
• 17:56
  there's
• 17:56
  no
• 17:57
  way
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  would
• 17:57
  part
• 17:57
  with
• 17:57
  that
• 17:57
  thing.
• 17:59
  Yeah,
• 17:59
  exactly.
• 18:00
  Yeah.
• 18:01
  You
• 18:01
  kind
• 18:01
  of.
• 18:02
  Again,
• 18:03
  you
• 18:04
  start
• 18:04
  picking
• 18:04
  out
• 18:04
  gear
• 18:04
  that
• 18:05
  really
• 18:05
  works
• 18:05
  for
• 18:05
  you.
• 18:06
  I
• 18:06
  mean,
• 18:07
  I've
• 18:07
  been.
• 18:07
  I've
• 18:08
  done
• 18:08
  enough
• 18:09
  mountaineering
• 18:09
  and
• 18:10
  climbing
• 18:10
  out
• 18:11
  west
• 18:11
  and
• 18:11
  stuff
• 18:11
  like
• 18:12
  that,
• 18:12
  so
• 18:12
  I've,
• 18:12
  I've
• 18:12
  got
• 18:13
  a
• 18:13
  lot
• 18:13
  of
• 18:13
  carryover
• 18:14
  from
• 18:14
  that.
• 18:15
  I
• 18:16
  really
• 18:16
  like
• 18:16
  fleece,
• 18:17
  but
• 18:17
  now
• 18:18
  some
• 18:18
  of
• 18:18
  the
• 18:19
  polar
• 18:21
  puffy
• 18:22
  type
• 18:22
  stuff,
• 18:23
  I
• 18:23
  can't
• 18:24
  think
• 18:25
  of
• 18:25
  the
• 18:25
  name
• 18:25
  of
• 18:26
  what
• 18:26
  a
• 18:26
  lot
• 18:27
  of
• 18:27
  the
• 18:27
  insulating
• 18:27
  stuff,
• 18:28
  it's
• 18:28
  kind
• 18:28
  of
• 18:28
  like
• 18:28
  a
• 18:28
  down
• 18:29
  jacket,
• 18:29
  but
• 18:29
  it's,
• 18:31
  it's
• 18:31
  that
• 18:31
  polar
• 18:32
  material.
• 18:33
  That
• 18:33
  stuff
• 18:34
  is
• 18:34
  amazing
• 18:35
  right
• 18:35
  now
• 18:36
  and
• 18:37
  it
• 18:37
  doesn't,
• 18:38
  it
• 18:38
  doesn't
• 18:38
  really
• 18:38
  lose
• 18:39
  its
• 18:39
  value
• 18:39
  if
• 18:40
  it
• 18:40
  gets
• 18:40
  a
• 18:40
  little
• 18:40
  wet.
• 18:41
  So
• 18:41
  it's
• 18:41
  kind,
• 18:42
  it's
• 18:42
  super
• 18:42
  nice.
• 18:44
  Many
• 18:44
  of
• 18:44
  the
• 18:44
  manufacturers
• 18:45
  are
• 18:46
  using
• 18:46
  that.
• 18:46
  So.
• 18:47
  And
• 18:47
  it's
• 18:47
  nice
• 18:47
  and
• 18:48
  lightweight
• 18:48
  too,
• 18:49
  where
• 18:49
  like
• 18:50
  fleece
• 18:50
  can
• 18:50
  be
• 18:50
  kind
• 18:51
  of
• 18:51
  heavy.
• 18:52
  Like
• 18:52
  a
• 18:52
  wool
• 18:52
  sweater
• 18:53
  is
• 18:53
  pretty
• 18:53
  heavy.
• 18:54
  Again,
• 18:54
  I
• 18:55
  kind
• 18:55
  of
• 18:55
  like
• 18:55
  the
• 18:55
  older
• 18:56
  school,
• 18:57
  but
• 18:57
  that's
• 18:57
  just
• 18:57
  kind
• 18:57
  of
• 18:58
  me.
• 18:58
  There's
• 18:58
  a
• 18:59
  lot
• 18:59
  of
• 18:59
  good
• 19:00
  fabrics
• 19:00
  out
• 19:00
  there.
• 19:03
  The
• 19:04
  other
• 19:04
  thing
• 19:04
  I
• 19:04
  do,
• 19:04
  I
• 19:05
  will
• 19:05
  keep
• 19:05
  us
• 19:06
  like
• 19:06
  a
• 19:06
  pair
• 19:06
  of
• 19:07
  mittens
• 19:07
  with
• 19:07
  me
• 19:08
  or
• 19:08
  some
• 19:08
  heavier
• 19:09
  gloves
• 19:09
  just
• 19:10
  so
• 19:10
  if
• 19:10
  my
• 19:11
  hands
• 19:11
  do
• 19:11
  start
• 19:11
  to
• 19:12
  get
• 19:12
  cold,
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  can
• 19:12
  shove
• 19:13
  those,
• 19:14
  my
• 19:14
  hands,
• 19:16
  even
• 19:16
  with
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  nitro
• 19:17
  glove
• 19:17
  on.
• 19:17
  I'll
• 19:18
  shove
• 19:18
  them
• 19:18
  into
• 19:19
  my
• 19:20
  gloves
• 19:20
  or
• 19:21
  mittens.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:22
  then
• 19:22
  I'll
• 19:22
  also
• 19:23
  carry
• 19:23
  some
• 19:24
  hand
• 19:24
  warmers,
• 19:25
  usually
• 19:25
  just
• 19:25
  the
• 19:26
  chemical
• 19:26
  ones.
• 19:27
  Super
• 19:28
  easy
• 19:28
  to
• 19:28
  carry.
• 19:30
  So
• 19:31
  it
• 19:31
  kind
• 19:31
  of
• 19:31
  works
• 19:31
  out
• 19:31
  that
• 19:32
  way
• 19:33
  because
• 19:33
  once
• 19:33
  your
• 19:34
  hands
• 19:34
  start
• 19:34
  getting
• 19:35
  cold
• 19:35
  or
• 19:36
  if
• 19:36
  they
• 19:36
  get
• 19:36
  really
• 19:37
  cold,
• 19:37
  it's
• 19:37
  really
• 19:38
  hard
• 19:38
  to
• 19:38
  come
• 19:38
  back
• 19:39
  from
• 19:39
  that.
• 19:40
  So
• 19:41
  you
• 19:41
  really
• 19:41
  have
• 19:41
  to
• 19:42
  know
• 19:42
  what
• 19:42
  your
• 19:43
  limits
• 19:43
  are.
• 19:43
  And
• 19:43
  we're
• 19:44
  not
• 19:44
  going
• 19:44
  out
• 19:45
  for
• 19:45
  eight
• 19:46
  hours.
• 19:46
  It's
• 19:46
  usually
• 19:47
  at
• 19:47
  the
• 19:48
  most
• 19:48
  maybe
• 19:49
  a
• 19:49
  four
• 19:50
  hour
• 19:50
  trip.
• 19:51
  And
• 19:51
  most
• 19:51
  of
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  time
• 19:52
  it's
• 19:52
  actually
• 19:52
  more
• 19:53
  like
• 19:53
  two.
• 19:55
  So
• 19:55
  kind
• 19:56
  of
• 19:56
  limited
• 19:56
  that
• 19:57
  way.
• 19:57
  Yeah.
• 19:58
  And
• 19:58
  I've
• 19:58
  got
• 19:58
  those
• 19:59
  Sims
• 19:59
  steelheading
• 20:00
  gloves
• 20:00
  that
• 20:00
  I
• 20:00
  really
• 20:00
  like
• 20:01
  that
• 20:01
  are
• 20:01
  like
• 20:01
  the
• 20:01
  mittens
• 20:02
  with
• 20:02
  the.
• 20:02
  You
• 20:02
  peel
• 20:03
  them
• 20:03
  back
• 20:03
  and
• 20:03
  they
• 20:03
  have
• 20:03
  the
• 20:03
  fingers.
• 20:04
  Oh
• 20:04
  yeah.
• 20:04
  And
• 20:05
  you
• 20:05
  wear
• 20:05
  the
• 20:05
  nitrile
• 20:06
  underneath
• 20:07
  those.
• 20:07
  And
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  know,
• 20:09
  you
• 20:09
  can
• 20:09
  do
• 20:10
  a
• 20:10
  lot.
• 20:10
  And
• 20:10
  you
• 20:10
  can
• 20:10
  tuck
• 20:10
  hand
• 20:11
  warmers
• 20:11
  in
• 20:11
  the
• 20:11
  tops
• 20:11
  of
• 20:12
  your
• 20:12
  hands
• 20:12
  in
• 20:12
  that
• 20:12
  and
• 20:12
  it
• 20:13
  works
• 20:13
  pretty
• 20:13
  well.
• 20:13
  Oh
• 20:13
  yeah,
• 20:15
  Yeah.
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  mean,
• 20:16
  again,
• 20:17
  my
• 20:17
  hands
• 20:17
  tend
• 20:17
  to
• 20:18
  stay
• 20:18
  fairly
• 20:19
  good.
• 20:20
  But
• 20:20
  I
• 20:21
  know
• 20:21
  other
• 20:21
  people
• 20:22
  just
• 20:22
  have
• 20:23
  problems
• 20:23
  with
• 20:23
  their
• 20:24
  hands.
• 20:24
  That's
• 20:24
  usually
• 20:25
  the
• 20:26
  deciding
• 20:26
  factor.
• 20:27
  Or
• 20:27
  even
• 20:27
  with
• 20:27
  their
• 20:28
  legs,
• 20:28
  they
• 20:28
  don't
• 20:28
  have
• 20:29
  the
• 20:29
  best
• 20:29
  circulation.
• 20:31
  I
• 20:31
  try
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  tell
• 20:32
  people,
• 20:32
  don't
• 20:33
  be
• 20:33
  afraid
• 20:33
  to
• 20:33
  put
• 20:34
  some
• 20:34
  calories
• 20:35
  on
• 20:35
  either.
• 20:36
  That's
• 20:36
  another
• 20:37
  thing
• 20:37
  coming
• 20:37
  from
• 20:38
  the
• 20:38
  climbing
• 20:39
  side
• 20:40
  of
• 20:40
  the
• 20:41
  world.
• 20:42
  You
• 20:43
  know,
• 20:43
  it
• 20:43
  wouldn't
• 20:43
  be
• 20:43
  unheard
• 20:44
  of
• 20:44
  us
• 20:45
  throwing
• 20:45
  like
• 20:46
  4
• 20:46
  or
• 20:47
  5,000
• 20:47
  calories
• 20:48
  down
• 20:49
  at
• 20:49
  a
• 20:49
  time
• 20:50
  because
• 20:51
  you've
• 20:51
  got
• 20:52
  to
• 20:52
  fuel
• 20:52
  that
• 20:52
  engine.
• 20:54
  So
• 20:55
  don't
• 20:55
  be
• 20:55
  afraid
• 20:55
  to
• 20:56
  have
• 20:56
  those
• 20:56
  pancakes
• 20:57
  in
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  morning
• 20:57
  with
• 20:58
  some
• 20:58
  syrup
• 20:58
  and
• 20:59
  butter.
• 21:00
  So
• 21:00
  you
• 21:00
  want
• 21:00
  to,
• 21:00
  you
• 21:01
  want
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  keep
• 21:01
  yourself
• 21:02
  fueled.
• 21:03
  I
• 21:03
  try
• 21:03
  to
• 21:04
  keep
• 21:04
  myself
• 21:05
  pretty
• 21:05
  hydrated
• 21:06
  as
• 21:06
  well.
• 21:07
  When
• 21:07
  you're
• 21:07
  dehydrated
• 21:09
  it
• 21:10
  will
• 21:10
  definitely
• 21:11
  affect
• 21:11
  your
• 21:12
  circulation.
• 21:14
  So
• 21:15
  I
• 21:15
  try
• 21:15
  to
• 21:15
  stay
• 21:16
  pretty
• 21:16
  hydrated.
• 21:18
  I
• 21:18
  will
• 21:18
  have
• 21:19
  a
• 21:19
  little
• 21:19
  flask.
• 21:20
  It's
• 21:20
  always
• 21:21
  kind
• 21:21
  of
• 21:21
  nice
• 21:21
  again
• 21:23
  don't
• 21:23
  overdo
• 21:23
  it
• 21:24
  because
• 21:25
  you
• 21:25
  don't
• 21:25
  want
• 21:25
  to
• 21:25
  stumble
• 21:26
  or
• 21:26
  anything
• 21:27
  like
• 21:27
  that.
• 21:27
  But
• 21:27
  just
• 21:28
  little
• 21:28
  things
• 21:28
  like
• 21:28
  that
• 21:29
  kind
• 21:29
  of
• 21:29
  make
• 21:29
  the
• 21:29
  day
• 21:30
  kind
• 21:30
  of
• 21:30
  fun
• 21:31
  again.
• 21:31
  We're,
• 21:32
  we're
• 21:32
  going
• 21:33
  out
• 21:33
  to
• 21:34
  have
• 21:34
  a
• 21:35
  good
• 21:35
  time,
• 21:35
  be
• 21:35
  out
• 21:36
  in
• 21:36
  nature,
• 21:37
  try
• 21:37
  to
• 21:37
  catch
• 21:38
  some
• 21:38
  fish
• 21:39
  and
• 21:40
  you
• 21:40
  know,
• 21:40
  spend
• 21:40
  some
• 21:41
  time
• 21:41
  with
• 21:41
  friends
• 21:42
  and
• 21:42
  family
• 21:42
  and
• 21:42
  stuff.
• 21:43
  So.
• 21:44
  But
• 21:44
  you
• 21:44
  want
• 21:44
  to
• 21:44
  have
• 21:45
  a
• 21:45
  good
• 21:45
  time
• 21:45
  at
• 21:45
  it.
• 21:46
  So
• 21:46
  be
• 21:47
  smart
• 21:47
  about
• 21:47
  it.
• 21:48
  I
• 21:48
  mean
• 21:48
  I
• 21:48
  see
• 21:49
  some
• 21:49
  guys
• 21:49
  that
• 21:50
  they're
• 21:50
  like
• 21:50
  oh
• 21:51
  I
• 21:51
  threw
• 21:51
  a
• 21:51
  granola
• 21:52
  bar
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  that
• 21:52
  should
• 21:53
  be,
• 21:53
  that
• 21:53
  should
• 21:53
  cover
• 21:54
  me.
• 21:54
  I'm
• 21:54
  like
• 21:54
  oh
• 21:55
  yeah,
• 21:55
  you're
• 21:56
  gonna
• 21:56
  have
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  hard
• 21:56
  day
• 21:57
  especially
• 21:57
  if
• 21:57
  it's
• 21:57
  windy
• 21:58
  and
• 21:58
  cold.
• 21:59
  So
• 22:00
  yeah,
• 22:01
  absolutely.
• 22:01
  And
• 22:02
  so,
• 22:02
  you
• 22:02
  know,
• 22:02
  I
• 22:02
  think
• 22:02
  we've
• 22:02
  pretty
• 22:03
  well
• 22:03
  covered
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  kind
• 22:03
  of
• 22:04
  the
• 22:04
  non
• 22:04
  fishing
• 22:05
  part
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  gear.
• 22:05
  You
• 22:06
  know
• 22:06
  what's
• 22:06
  your
• 22:06
  preferred
• 22:07
  like
• 22:07
  rod,
• 22:08
  reel
• 22:08
  and
• 22:08
  line
• 22:08
  and
• 22:09
  leader
• 22:09
  set
• 22:09
  up
• 22:09
  for
• 22:09
  winter
• 22:10
  fishing.
• 22:11
  So
• 22:12
  preferred
• 22:13
  rod,
• 22:14
  reel.
• 22:14
  I
• 22:15
  usually
• 22:15
  fish
• 22:16
  really
• 22:16
  lightweight
• 22:17
  stuff
• 22:18
  but
• 22:19
  for
• 22:19
  winter
• 22:19
  time
• 22:20
  I
• 22:20
  kind
• 22:20
  of
• 22:20
  will
• 22:20
  go
• 22:21
  up.
• 22:21
  I'll
• 22:22
  either
• 22:22
  a
• 22:23
  4
• 22:23
  or
• 22:23
  a
• 22:23
  5
• 22:24
  weight
• 22:24
  because
• 22:24
  I'm
• 22:25
  usually
• 22:25
  throwing
• 22:26
  slightly
• 22:26
  heavier
• 22:27
  nymphs.
• 22:28
  As
• 22:29
  far
• 22:29
  as
• 22:29
  real
• 22:29
  goes,
• 22:30
  it's,
• 22:30
  it's
• 22:31
  my
• 22:31
  standard
• 22:32
  go
• 22:32
  to.
• 22:33
  I
• 22:33
  run
• 22:34
  Orvis
• 22:35
  H3s
• 22:36
  or
• 22:36
  H4s
• 22:37
  now
• 22:38
  and
• 22:39
  reels
• 22:40
  just
• 22:41
  either
• 22:41
  the
• 22:43
  Helios
• 22:44
  or
• 22:45
  one
• 22:45
  of
• 22:45
  those
• 22:46
  just
• 22:46
  a
• 22:46
  standard
• 22:47
  reel
• 22:47
  setup.
• 22:47
  I
• 22:48
  use
• 22:48
  the
• 22:48
  same
• 22:48
  line
• 22:49
  that
• 22:49
  I
• 22:49
  do
• 22:49
  throughout
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  season
• 22:50
  which
• 22:50
  is
• 22:51
  scientific.
• 22:52
  Angler
• 22:52
  creek
• 22:53
  trout.
• 22:54
  It
• 22:54
  is
• 22:55
  a
• 22:55
  phenomenal
• 22:57
  especially
• 22:57
  for
• 22:57
  the
• 22:58
  short
• 22:58
  game.
• 22:59
  It
• 22:59
  loads
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  rod
• 23:00
  properly.
• 23:01
  It's
• 23:01
  really
• 23:01
  nice.
• 23:04
  Holds
• 23:04
  up
• 23:04
  to
• 23:04
  the
• 23:05
  weather
• 23:05
  pretty
• 23:05
  well
• 23:07
  and
• 23:07
  will
• 23:08
  turn
• 23:08
  over
• 23:08
  just
• 23:08
  about
• 23:09
  everything.
• 23:09
  Even
• 23:10
  like
• 23:11
  streamers
• 23:11
  and
• 23:12
  stuff
• 23:12
  like
• 23:12
  that.
• 23:13
  As
• 23:13
  far
• 23:13
  as
• 23:14
  leader
• 23:14
  goes,
• 23:15
  I'll
• 23:15
  usually
• 23:16
  run
• 23:17
  like
• 23:18
  a
• 23:18
  7
• 23:18
  foot
• 23:19
  or
• 23:19
  a
• 23:20
  7
• 23:20
  and
• 23:20
  a
• 23:20
  half
• 23:20
  foot
• 23:21
  3x,
• 23:22
  maybe
• 23:22
  a
• 23:23
  4x.
• 23:24
  Kind
• 23:24
  of
• 23:24
  depends.
• 23:25
  Especially
• 23:25
  now
• 23:26
  we've
• 23:26
  got
• 23:27
  thinner
• 23:27
  water
• 23:28
  so
• 23:28
  I
• 23:28
  may
• 23:29
  downsize
• 23:29
  a
• 23:29
  little
• 23:30
  bit
• 23:32
  using
• 23:33
  that
• 23:34
  shorter
• 23:34
  leader.
• 23:34
  Like
• 23:35
  a
• 23:35
  seven
• 23:35
  and
• 23:35
  a
• 23:35
  half
• 23:36
  footer.
• 23:36
  I
• 23:36
  can
• 23:36
  always
• 23:37
  add
• 23:37
  on
• 23:37
  some
• 23:37
  tip
• 23:38
  it
• 23:38
  as
• 23:38
  I
• 23:38
  need
• 23:39
  and
• 23:39
  then
• 23:40
  go
• 23:40
  down
• 23:40
  that
• 23:40
  size.
• 23:41
  So
• 23:41
  if
• 23:41
  it's
• 23:42
  3x
• 23:42
  I'll
• 23:43
  drop
• 23:43
  down
• 23:43
  to
• 23:44
  4
• 23:44
  or
• 23:45
  5x.
• 23:46
  I
• 23:46
  try
• 23:46
  to
• 23:46
  keep
• 23:46
  it
• 23:47
  fairly,
• 23:48
  fairly
• 23:49
  easy
• 23:49
  and
• 23:49
  that,
• 23:50
  that's
• 23:50
  really
• 23:51
  kind
• 23:51
  of
• 23:51
  my
• 23:51
  go
• 23:51
  to
• 23:52
  for
• 23:52
  any
• 23:52
  season.
• 23:53
  But
• 23:56
  in
• 23:56
  the
• 23:56
  wintertime,
• 23:57
  I'll
• 23:57
  usually
• 23:58
  try
• 23:58
  to
• 23:58
  stick
• 23:58
  to
• 23:59
  that.
• 23:59
  I
• 24:00
  am
• 24:00
  throwing
• 24:01
  slightly
• 24:01
  bigger
• 24:02
  nymphs,
• 24:03
  jigs,
• 24:04
  stuff
• 24:05
  like
• 24:05
  that.
• 24:05
  That
• 24:06
  will
• 24:08
  takes
• 24:08
  a
• 24:08
  little
• 24:08
  bit
• 24:08
  more
• 24:09
  to
• 24:09
  turn
• 24:09
  over,
• 24:11
  plus
• 24:11
  the
• 24:11
  indicator
• 24:12
  in
• 24:12
  that.
• 24:13
  So
• 24:13
  that's
• 24:13
  kind
• 24:14
  of
• 24:14
  my
• 24:14
  standard
• 24:15
  setup.
• 24:15
  Again,
• 24:16
  I
• 24:16
  adjust
• 24:16
  as
• 24:17
  need
• 24:17
  be,
• 24:17
  but
• 24:18
  pretty
• 24:19
  standard
• 24:20
  like
• 24:20
  that
• 24:21
  and
• 24:21
  then
• 24:21
  that
• 24:22
  throughout
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  season
• 24:23
  so
• 24:23
  I
• 24:23
  don't
• 24:23
  have
• 24:23
  to
• 24:23
  change
• 24:24
  up
• 24:24
  too
• 24:24
  much.
• 24:25
  Got
• 24:25
  it.
• 24:26
  And
• 24:26
  I
• 24:26
  would
• 24:26
  imagine
• 24:26
  that
• 24:27
  I
• 24:27
  haven't,
• 24:28
  you
• 24:28
  know,
• 24:29
  seen
• 24:30
  that
• 24:30
  fly
• 24:30
  line
• 24:30
  from
• 24:31
  essay
• 24:31
  before.
• 24:31
  I'm
• 24:31
  assuming
• 24:32
  it's
• 24:32
  probably
• 24:32
  a
• 24:32
  really
• 24:33
  aggressive
• 24:34
  like
• 24:34
  weight
• 24:35
  forward
• 24:35
  taper.
• 24:36
  Yeah,
• 24:37
  when
• 24:37
  they
• 24:37
  first
• 24:38
  came
• 24:38
  out
• 24:38
  with
• 24:38
  it,
• 24:38
  it
• 24:39
  used
• 24:39
  to
• 24:39
  be
• 24:39
  called
• 24:39
  the
• 24:40
  sbt.
• 24:40
  So
• 24:40
  short
• 24:41
  belly
• 24:41
  taper.
• 24:42
  And
• 24:43
  then
• 24:43
  they've
• 24:43
  changed
• 24:44
  it
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  creek
• 24:44
  trout.
• 24:45
  So
• 24:46
  it
• 24:46
  is,
• 24:46
  I
• 24:47
  believe
• 24:47
  it
• 24:47
  is
• 24:47
  a
• 24:47
  line
• 24:48
  heavy.
• 24:49
  So
• 24:50
  three
• 24:51
  weight
• 24:51
  would
• 24:51
  be
• 24:51
  a
• 24:52
  four
• 24:52
  weight
• 24:52
  and
• 24:53
  so
• 24:53
  on.
• 24:53
  So
• 24:53
  a
• 24:53
  four
• 24:54
  weight
• 24:54
  is
• 24:54
  actually
• 24:55
  a
• 24:55
  five
• 24:55
  weight.
• 24:55
  They've
• 24:56
  concentrated
• 24:57
  it
• 24:57
  super
• 24:58
  tight
• 24:58
  to
• 24:59
  the
• 24:59
  front
• 24:59
  of
• 24:59
  the
• 25:00
  head,
• 25:00
  all
• 25:01
  that
• 25:01
  weight.
• 25:02
  So
• 25:03
  on
• 25:03
  these
• 25:04
  creeks
• 25:04
  you're
• 25:04
  not
• 25:05
  casting
• 25:05
  very
• 25:06
  far.
• 25:07
  A
• 25:07
  25
• 25:08
  foot
• 25:08
  cast
• 25:09
  is
• 25:10
  far.
• 25:11
  I
• 25:11
  mean
• 25:11
  there
• 25:12
  are
• 25:12
  some
• 25:12
  areas
• 25:12
  where
• 25:13
  you
• 25:13
  will
• 25:13
  cast
• 25:14
  farther,
• 25:14
  but
• 25:14
  most
• 25:15
  of
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  time
• 25:15
  you're
• 25:16
  casting
• 25:17
  maybe
• 25:19
  as
• 25:20
  short
• 25:20
  as
• 25:20
  10ft
• 25:21
  or
• 25:22
  less,
• 25:23
  all
• 25:24
  the
• 25:24
  way
• 25:24
  up
• 25:24
  to
• 25:24
  maybe
• 25:25
  25ft
• 25:26
  if
• 25:27
  you
• 25:27
  get
• 25:27
  into
• 25:27
  a
• 25:28
  long
• 25:28
  run
• 25:28
  and
• 25:29
  stuff
• 25:29
  like
• 25:29
  that.
• 25:30
  But
• 25:30
  it,
• 25:30
  it's
• 25:31
  a
• 25:31
  great,
• 25:32
  I
• 25:33
  mean
• 25:33
  that
• 25:33
  really
• 25:34
  was
• 25:34
  a
• 25:34
  game
• 25:34
  changer.
• 25:35
  So
• 25:35
  it
• 25:35
  helps
• 25:36
  load
• 25:36
  those
• 25:36
  rods.
• 25:38
  So
• 25:38
  you're
• 25:38
  kind
• 25:39
  of
• 25:39
  looking
• 25:39
  for
• 25:39
  that.
• 25:40
  A
• 25:40
  lot
• 25:40
  of
• 25:41
  times
• 25:41
  the,
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  bellies
• 25:42
  on
• 25:43
  a
• 25:43
  lot
• 25:43
  of
• 25:43
  these
• 25:44
  lines
• 25:44
  are
• 25:44
  made,
• 25:45
  you
• 25:45
  know,
• 25:45
  30ft
• 25:46
  plus.
• 25:47
  Well,
• 25:47
  if
• 25:48
  you're
• 25:48
  not
• 25:48
  even
• 25:48
  casting
• 25:49
  over
• 25:49
  30ft,
• 25:50
  you've
• 25:51
  got
• 25:51
  to
• 25:51
  load
• 25:51
  that
• 25:52
  rod.
• 25:52
  That's
• 25:52
  why
• 25:52
  so
• 25:53
  many
• 25:53
  people
• 25:54
  started
• 25:54
  overlining,
• 25:57
  especially
• 25:57
  here
• 25:58
  in
• 25:58
  the
• 25:58
  driftless.
• 26:00
  So
• 26:00
  yeah,
• 26:01
  I,
• 26:01
  I
• 26:01
  talked
• 26:01
  to
• 26:02
  sa.
• 26:02
  Those
• 26:03
  guys
• 26:03
  over
• 26:03
  there
• 26:03
  are
• 26:03
  awesome.
• 26:04
  Eric,
• 26:06
  he's
• 26:07
  like,
• 26:07
  you
• 26:07
  gotta
• 26:07
  try
• 26:08
  this
• 26:08
  line
• 26:08
  out
• 26:08
  there
• 26:09
  in
• 26:09
  the
• 26:09
  driftless.
• 26:09
  And
• 26:10
  I'll
• 26:10
  tell
• 26:10
  it,
• 26:10
  it
• 26:11
  truly
• 26:11
  was
• 26:11
  one
• 26:12
  of
• 26:12
  those
• 26:12
  like
• 26:13
  the
• 26:14
  holy
• 26:15
  like
• 26:16
  line
• 26:16
  that
• 26:16
  just
• 26:17
  really
• 26:17
  started
• 26:18
  setting
• 26:18
  it
• 26:19
  off
• 26:19
  for
• 26:19
  me.
• 26:19
  It
• 26:19
  just,
• 26:20
  it
• 26:20
  makes
• 26:20
  everything
• 26:21
  a
• 26:21
  little
• 26:21
  bit
• 26:21
  easier.
• 26:22
  Some
• 26:22
  people
• 26:23
  like
• 26:23
  other
• 26:23
  lines
• 26:23
  from
• 26:24
  SA
• 26:25
  but
• 26:25
  this
• 26:25
  for
• 26:26
  my,
• 26:26
  for
• 26:26
  my
• 26:27
  game,
• 26:27
  it
• 26:27
  works
• 26:27
  really
• 26:28
  well.
• 26:28
  It's
• 26:28
  nice
• 26:29
  for
• 26:29
  clients
• 26:29
  too
• 26:30
  because
• 26:30
  they.
• 26:31
  It's
• 26:31
  sometimes
• 26:32
  hard
• 26:32
  for
• 26:32
  them
• 26:32
  to
• 26:33
  load
• 26:33
  the
• 26:33
  line.
• 26:34
  This
• 26:35
  line
• 26:35
  will
• 26:36
  help
• 26:36
  load
• 26:36
  that
• 26:36
  rod
• 26:37
  a
• 26:37
  little
• 26:37
  better,
• 26:38
  especially
• 26:38
  the
• 26:38
  smaller
• 26:39
  rods,
• 26:39
  you
• 26:39
  know,
• 26:40
  the
• 26:40
  threes
• 26:40
  and
• 26:40
  the
• 26:40
  fours
• 26:42
  that
• 26:42
  I'm
• 26:42
  using
• 26:44
  it.
• 26:44
  It
• 26:45
  helps
• 26:45
  load
• 26:45
  that
• 26:45
  rod
• 26:46
  properly.
• 26:47
  Got
• 26:48
  it.
• 26:48
  And
• 26:48
  you
• 26:48
  know,
• 26:48
  so
• 26:48
  I
• 26:48
  think
• 26:49
  we've
• 26:49
  covered
• 26:49
  the
• 26:49
  tackle
• 26:50
  part
• 26:50
  pretty
• 26:50
  well.
• 26:51
  Let's
• 26:51
  talk
• 26:51
  a
• 26:51
  little
• 26:51
  bit
• 26:51
  about
• 26:52
  your
• 26:52
  preferred
• 26:52
  flies.
• 26:54
  So
• 26:54
  preferred
• 26:55
  Flies.
• 26:55
  I
• 26:56
  have
• 26:57
  a
• 26:57
  number
• 26:57
  of
• 26:58
  them.
• 26:58
  I
• 26:59
  kind
• 26:59
  of
• 26:59
  like
• 27:00
  little
• 27:01
  streamer
• 27:01
  patterns,
• 27:02
  kind
• 27:02
  of
• 27:02
  like
• 27:02
  a
• 27:03
  small
• 27:03
  slump
• 27:03
  buster.
• 27:05
  I'll
• 27:05
  actually
• 27:06
  tie
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  slump
• 27:06
  buster
• 27:07
  with
• 27:07
  pine
• 27:07
  squirrel.
• 27:08
  And
• 27:09
  then
• 27:09
  a
• 27:09
  cone
• 27:09
  head.
• 27:10
  Works
• 27:11
  super
• 27:11
  awesome.
• 27:12
  I
• 27:12
  have
• 27:12
  a
• 27:12
  couple
• 27:13
  other
• 27:13
  little
• 27:13
  patterns.
• 27:14
  I
• 27:14
  call
• 27:14
  them
• 27:17
  a
• 27:18
  jiggy
• 27:18
  nymph
• 27:19
  streamer.
• 27:20
  So
• 27:21
  there's
• 27:21
  on
• 27:22
  slightly
• 27:23
  bigger
• 27:24
  jig
• 27:24
  hooks,
• 27:26
  tungsten
• 27:26
  bead.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  then
• 27:28
  I'll
• 27:29
  use
• 27:29
  like
• 27:29
  a
• 27:29
  pine
• 27:30
  squirrel.
• 27:30
  I
• 27:31
  love
• 27:31
  pine
• 27:32
  squirrel
• 27:32
  for
• 27:34
  kind
• 27:34
  of
• 27:34
  a
• 27:34
  nymphy
• 27:35
  type
• 27:36
  pattern.
• 27:37
  It
• 27:38
  moves
• 27:38
  really
• 27:38
  well,
• 27:39
  holds
• 27:39
  up
• 27:39
  really
• 27:39
  well.
• 27:40
  I
• 27:40
  mean,
• 27:41
  it's
• 27:41
  like
• 27:41
  a
• 27:41
  rabbit
• 27:42
  strip.
• 27:43
  But
• 27:43
  being
• 27:44
  pine
• 27:44
  squirrel,
• 27:44
  it's
• 27:45
  got
• 27:45
  that
• 27:45
  shorter
• 27:45
  hair,
• 27:47
  comes
• 27:47
  in
• 27:47
  a
• 27:47
  lot
• 27:47
  of
• 27:48
  awesome
• 27:48
  colors.
• 27:49
  And
• 27:49
  then
• 27:50
  adding
• 27:50
  a
• 27:50
  little
• 27:50
  rubber
• 27:51
  legs
• 27:51
  to
• 27:52
  it.
• 27:53
  You
• 27:53
  know,
• 27:53
  beads.
• 27:54
  You
• 27:54
  can
• 27:54
  get
• 27:54
  beads
• 27:55
  now
• 27:55
  in
• 27:55
  all
• 27:55
  kinds
• 27:55
  of
• 27:56
  colors.
• 27:56
  So
• 27:56
  I
• 27:56
  might
• 27:57
  throw
• 27:58
  like
• 27:58
  an
• 27:58
  orange
• 27:58
  or
• 27:59
  a
• 27:59
  pink
• 27:59
  bead
• 27:59
  on
• 28:00
  there
• 28:00
  to
• 28:00
  kind
• 28:00
  of
• 28:01
  add
• 28:02
  a
• 28:02
  little
• 28:02
  flash
• 28:03
  to
• 28:03
  it.
• 28:03
  Something
• 28:04
  they
• 28:04
  can
• 28:04
  kind
• 28:04
  of
• 28:04
  target.
• 28:06
  I've
• 28:07
  got
• 28:07
  a
• 28:07
  couple
• 28:07
  other,
• 28:08
  like,
• 28:08
  nymph
• 28:09
  patterns
• 28:09
  that
• 28:10
  are
• 28:10
  a
• 28:11
  little
• 28:11
  more
• 28:11
  traditional
• 28:13
  looking.
• 28:15
  I.
• 28:15
  I
• 28:15
  do
• 28:16
  like
• 28:16
  a
• 28:16
  jig
• 28:16
  hook.
• 28:17
  So
• 28:17
  I'll
• 28:17
  tie
• 28:18
  these
• 28:18
  smaller
• 28:18
  nymphs
• 28:20
  still
• 28:20
  on
• 28:20
  a
• 28:20
  jig
• 28:20
  hook
• 28:21
  still,
• 28:22
  usually
• 28:22
  with
• 28:23
  a
• 28:23
  tungsten
• 28:24
  bead.
• 28:25
  But
• 28:25
  then
• 28:25
  I'll
• 28:26
  add
• 28:26
  like
• 28:26
  a
• 28:27
  kind
• 28:27
  of
• 28:28
  a
• 28:28
  hot
• 28:28
  spot
• 28:29
  with
• 28:29
  a
• 28:30
  little
• 28:31
  bit
• 28:31
  of
• 28:31
  dubbing
• 28:32
  or
• 28:32
  just.
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  usually
• 28:34
  use
• 28:34
  like
• 28:34
  a
• 28:35
  fluorescent
• 28:36
  red
• 28:36
  thread
• 28:36
  or
• 28:37
  orange
• 28:37
  thread,
• 28:38
  sometimes
• 28:39
  chartreuse.
• 28:42
  Just
• 28:42
  something
• 28:43
  that'll
• 28:43
  make
• 28:43
  it
• 28:43
  pop
• 28:44
  just
• 28:44
  a
• 28:44
  little
• 28:44
  bit.
• 28:45
  Most
• 28:45
  of
• 28:45
  the
• 28:45
  time
• 28:45
  those
• 28:46
  fish
• 28:46
  can
• 28:47
  see
• 28:47
  those
• 28:47
  flies.
• 28:48
  They're
• 28:48
  really
• 28:48
  good
• 28:49
  at
• 28:49
  seed.
• 28:49
  But
• 28:50
  I
• 28:50
  think
• 28:51
  you
• 28:51
  got
• 28:51
  to
• 28:51
  get
• 28:51
  those
• 28:51
  flies
• 28:52
  down
• 28:52
  pretty
• 28:53
  well.
• 28:53
  That's
• 28:53
  where
• 28:53
  the
• 28:54
  tungsten
• 28:54
  really
• 28:55
  works.
• 28:56
  Bigger
• 28:56
  cones,
• 28:57
  etc.
• 28:58
  So
• 28:58
  you're
• 28:59
  getting
• 28:59
  it
• 28:59
  down
• 29:00
  into
• 29:00
  their
• 29:00
  zone
• 29:01
  again.
• 29:02
  These
• 29:02
  fish
• 29:02
  are
• 29:03
  in
• 29:03
  colder
• 29:03
  water,
• 29:04
  a
• 29:04
  little
• 29:05
  more
• 29:05
  lethargic.
• 29:08
  Oh,
• 29:08
  I'm
• 29:09
  sure,
• 29:09
  you
• 29:09
  know,
• 29:10
  so
• 29:11
  mostly
• 29:12
  nymphs.
• 29:13
  And
• 29:13
  then
• 29:13
  I
• 29:14
  will
• 29:14
  run
• 29:15
  some,
• 29:16
  oh,
• 29:16
  bigger
• 29:17
  streamers.
• 29:17
  I
• 29:18
  actually
• 29:19
  like
• 29:19
  that.
• 29:19
  Baby
• 29:20
  goonga
• 29:21
  would
• 29:21
  definitely
• 29:22
  be
• 29:22
  on
• 29:22
  the
• 29:23
  list
• 29:23
  for.
• 29:24
  For
• 29:24
  a
• 29:24
  fly
• 29:24
  to
• 29:25
  use.
• 29:26
  There's
• 29:27
  another
• 29:27
  one
• 29:27
  called
• 29:28
  Sculptzilla.
• 29:29
  Great
• 29:29
  little
• 29:30
  articulated
• 29:30
  fly.
• 29:31
  Gets
• 29:31
  down
• 29:31
  really
• 29:32
  deep,
• 29:32
  little
• 29:33
  bit
• 29:33
  bigger.
• 29:35
  So,
• 29:36
  yeah,
• 29:36
  kind
• 29:36
  of
• 29:36
  that
• 29:37
  streamer
• 29:38
  pattern,
• 29:39
  I
• 29:39
  don't
• 29:39
  know.
• 29:39
  I
• 29:40
  don't
• 29:40
  get
• 29:40
  too
• 29:41
  hung
• 29:41
  up
• 29:41
  on
• 29:41
  a
• 29:42
  ton
• 29:42
  of
• 29:42
  different
• 29:43
  things.
• 29:43
  I
• 29:43
  think
• 29:44
  a
• 29:44
  lot
• 29:44
  of
• 29:44
  times
• 29:44
  it's.
• 29:45
  It's
• 29:45
  fly
• 29:46
  placement
• 29:46
  over
• 29:47
  exact
• 29:48
  fly
• 29:48
  to
• 29:49
  use.
• 29:49
  But
• 29:51
  you
• 29:51
  know,
• 29:51
  the
• 29:51
  typical
• 29:52
  colors,
• 29:53
  olive,
• 29:55
  natural,
• 29:57
  a
• 29:57
  little
• 29:57
  bit
• 29:57
  of
• 29:58
  white
• 29:58
  or
• 29:58
  gray.
• 30:01
  I
• 30:01
  like
• 30:01
  to
• 30:01
  add
• 30:02
  a
• 30:02
  little
• 30:02
  chartreuse
• 30:03
  to
• 30:03
  a
• 30:03
  few
• 30:03
  of
• 30:03
  them,
• 30:04
  a
• 30:04
  little
• 30:04
  paint
• 30:04
  to
• 30:05
  some
• 30:05
  of
• 30:05
  them.
• 30:06
  Obviously.
• 30:07
  Another
• 30:07
  one
• 30:08
  that
• 30:08
  comes
• 30:09
  to
• 30:09
  mind,
• 30:09
  speaking
• 30:09
  of
• 30:09
  pink,
• 30:10
  is
• 30:10
  the
• 30:10
  pink
• 30:10
  squirrel.
• 30:11
  It's
• 30:12
  A
• 30:13
  very
• 30:13
  well
• 30:13
  known
• 30:14
  fly
• 30:14
  here
• 30:14
  in
• 30:14
  the
• 30:14
  Driftless
• 30:15
  on
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  Wisconsin
• 30:16
  side
• 30:16
  and
• 30:16
  it's
• 30:17
  been
• 30:17
  used
• 30:17
  all
• 30:17
  over.
• 30:18
  Great
• 30:19
  little
• 30:19
  pattern.
• 30:20
  John
• 30:21
  Bethke
• 30:22
  made
• 30:22
  this
• 30:23
  fly
• 30:23
  and
• 30:23
  it,
• 30:23
  it's
• 30:24
  super
• 30:24
  awesome.
• 30:25
  I
• 30:26
  kind
• 30:26
  of
• 30:26
  tie
• 30:26
  it
• 30:26
  in
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  tungsten
• 30:27
  bead
• 30:28
  as
• 30:28
  well,
• 30:28
  which
• 30:28
  is
• 30:29
  kind
• 30:29
  of
• 30:29
  cool.
• 30:30
  So.
• 30:32
  Yeah.
• 30:32
  And
• 30:32
  to
• 30:32
  kind
• 30:32
  of
• 30:33
  help
• 30:33
  people.
• 30:33
  It's
• 30:33
  kind
• 30:33
  of
• 30:34
  funny,
• 30:34
  right.
• 30:34
  Because
• 30:34
  small
• 30:35
  streamer
• 30:35
  means
• 30:36
  different
• 30:36
  things
• 30:36
  to
• 30:36
  different
• 30:37
  folks.
• 30:39
  So.
• 30:39
  Right.
• 30:39
  I
• 30:40
  should,
• 30:40
  I
• 30:40
  should
• 30:41
  caveat
• 30:41
  that.
• 30:42
  Yeah.
• 30:42
  A
• 30:42
  small
• 30:43
  streamer,
• 30:43
  we're
• 30:43
  talking
• 30:44
  nothing
• 30:44
  more
• 30:45
  than
• 30:45
  a,
• 30:46
  Nothing
• 30:47
  bigger
• 30:47
  than
• 30:47
  2
• 30:48
  inches.
• 30:48
  I
• 30:49
  know
• 30:49
  some
• 30:49
  guys
• 30:49
  will
• 30:50
  use
• 30:50
  bigger.
• 30:51
  I
• 30:51
  know
• 30:52
  in
• 30:52
  some
• 30:52
  areas,
• 30:53
  you
• 30:53
  know,
• 30:53
  they're
• 30:54
  using
• 30:54
  3,
• 30:55
  4,
• 30:55
  5
• 30:56
  inch
• 30:57
  streamers.
• 30:57
  They're
• 30:58
  getting
• 30:58
  fish
• 30:58
  to
• 30:58
  move
• 30:59
  on
• 30:59
  them.
• 31:00
  But
• 31:00
  overall
• 31:01
  where
• 31:01
  I'm
• 31:01
  fishing,
• 31:02
  these
• 31:02
  streams
• 31:03
  are
• 31:03
  pretty
• 31:04
  small.
• 31:05
  If
• 31:05
  I,
• 31:05
  if
• 31:05
  I
• 31:06
  found
• 31:06
  a
• 31:06
  spot
• 31:06
  that
• 31:07
  was
• 31:07
  open,
• 31:07
  had
• 31:08
  a
• 31:08
  really
• 31:08
  deep
• 31:09
  pool.
• 31:09
  Really?
• 31:14
  Oh,
• 31:15
  I'm
• 31:15
  trying
• 31:15
  to
• 31:15
  think
• 31:15
  here
• 31:16
  like
• 31:16
  a
• 31:16
  bigger
• 31:17
  spot
• 31:17
  that
• 31:18
  might
• 31:18
  need
• 31:19
  to
• 31:19
  get
• 31:19
  a
• 31:19
  little
• 31:19
  bit
• 31:20
  deeper.
• 31:20
  I
• 31:21
  might
• 31:21
  throw
• 31:21
  something
• 31:22
  on
• 31:23
  a
• 31:23
  little
• 31:23
  bit
• 31:23
  bigger
• 31:24
  again.
• 31:25
  That
• 31:25
  baby
• 31:26
  gonga
• 31:26
  would
• 31:27
  be
• 31:27
  a
• 31:27
  pattern
• 31:27
  that
• 31:27
  you
• 31:28
  could
• 31:28
  get
• 31:28
  down
• 31:29
  pretty
• 31:30
  well.
• 31:31
  That's
• 31:32
  going
• 31:32
  to
• 31:32
  actually
• 31:33
  get
• 31:33
  noticed
• 31:34
  pretty
• 31:34
  quick.
• 31:36
  In
• 31:36
  the
• 31:37
  real
• 31:37
  cold
• 31:37
  water
• 31:37
  though.
• 31:38
  They're
• 31:38
  going
• 31:38
  to,
• 31:40
  to
• 31:40
  me,
• 31:40
  I
• 31:40
  think
• 31:40
  they
• 31:41
  key
• 31:41
  in
• 31:41
  on
• 31:42
  slightly
• 31:43
  smaller
• 31:44
  stuff
• 31:45
  that
• 31:45
  they
• 31:46
  know
• 31:46
  that
• 31:46
  they
• 31:46
  can
• 31:47
  attack
• 31:48
  and
• 31:48
  get
• 31:49
  because.
• 31:49
  Because
• 31:49
  they're
• 31:50
  cold.
• 31:50
  Everything's
• 31:51
  cold.
• 31:52
  That's
• 31:52
  the
• 31:52
  other
• 31:52
  tactic.
• 31:53
  Like
• 31:53
  you
• 31:53
  got
• 31:54
  to
• 31:54
  go
• 31:54
  low
• 31:55
  and
• 31:55
  slow.
• 31:56
  It's
• 31:56
  not
• 31:57
  a
• 31:57
  speed
• 31:57
  thing
• 31:59
  with
• 31:59
  the
• 32:00
  water.
• 32:00
  Temps
• 32:01
  being
• 32:01
  in
• 32:01
  that
• 32:02
  cold
• 32:02
  range,
• 32:03
  go
• 32:04
  a
• 32:04
  little
• 32:04
  bit
• 32:04
  slower
• 32:05
  than
• 32:05
  you
• 32:05
  normally
• 32:06
  would.
• 32:09
  When
• 32:09
  you
• 32:09
  do
• 32:10
  hit
• 32:10
  daiso,
• 32:10
  just
• 32:11
  kind
• 32:11
  of
• 32:12
  keep
• 32:12
  going
• 32:12
  on
• 32:12
  that
• 32:12
  stuff.
• 32:13
  You
• 32:13
  can
• 32:13
  kind
• 32:14
  of
• 32:14
  speed
• 32:14
  stuff
• 32:14
  up.
• 32:15
  You
• 32:15
  might
• 32:15
  go
• 32:16
  a
• 32:16
  slightly
• 32:16
  bigger
• 32:16
  fly.
• 32:18
  The
• 32:18
  other
• 32:19
  thing
• 32:19
  I
• 32:19
  keep
• 32:20
  on
• 32:20
  hand,
• 32:20
  I
• 32:20
  also
• 32:21
  run
• 32:21
  some
• 32:22
  dries
• 32:23
  now
• 32:23
  and
• 32:23
  again.
• 32:24
  We
• 32:24
  get
• 32:24
  a
• 32:24
  small
• 32:27
  black
• 32:27
  stone
• 32:28
  fly
• 32:28
  that
• 32:28
  comes
• 32:28
  off.
• 32:30
  So
• 32:30
  I
• 32:30
  do
• 32:30
  carry
• 32:31
  some
• 32:31
  like
• 32:32
  kind
• 32:33
  of
• 32:33
  a
• 32:33
  black
• 32:34
  stone
• 32:34
  fly
• 32:37
  pattern
• 32:38
  that's
• 32:38
  kind
• 32:38
  of
• 32:38
  a
• 32:39
  dry.
• 32:40
  I
• 32:40
  kind
• 32:40
  of,
• 32:40
  I
• 32:40
  call
• 32:41
  it
• 32:41
  like
• 32:41
  a
• 32:41
  foam
• 32:42
  stimulator.
• 32:44
  And
• 32:45
  it's
• 32:45
  got
• 32:45
  a
• 32:45
  black
• 32:45
  body
• 32:46
  to
• 32:46
  it,
• 32:46
  nice
• 32:47
  and
• 32:47
  thin
• 32:47
  profile.
• 32:49
  It
• 32:49
  works
• 32:49
  great
• 32:50
  during
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  summer
• 32:50
  as
• 32:51
  well
• 32:51
  for
• 32:52
  kind
• 32:52
  of
• 32:53
  a
• 32:53
  hopper
• 32:54
  or
• 32:54
  a
• 32:54
  cricket
• 32:55
  pattern.
• 32:56
  But
• 32:56
  it
• 32:56
  will
• 32:57
  work
• 32:57
  pretty
• 32:57
  good
• 32:58
  for
• 32:58
  a.
• 32:59
  When
• 33:00
  those
• 33:00
  Blackstone
• 33:01
  flies
• 33:01
  come
• 33:01
  off
• 33:02
  too.
• 33:02
  So
• 33:03
  don't
• 33:04
  be
• 33:04
  opposed
• 33:04
  to
• 33:04
  using
• 33:06
  some
• 33:06
  of
• 33:06
  your
• 33:06
  rigs
• 33:07
  that
• 33:07
  have
• 33:08
  like
• 33:08
  a
• 33:08
  hopper
• 33:09
  dropper
• 33:09
  set
• 33:10
  up
• 33:10
  on
• 33:10
  it.
• 33:11
  They
• 33:11
  still
• 33:12
  know
• 33:12
  what
• 33:12
  stuff
• 33:12
  landed
• 33:13
  on
• 33:13
  top
• 33:13
  of
• 33:13
  the
• 33:13
  water.
• 33:14
  And
• 33:14
  moving
• 33:15
  is.
• 33:15
  They
• 33:16
  haven't
• 33:16
  completely
• 33:17
  forgotten.
• 33:17
  So
• 33:18
  it
• 33:18
  can,
• 33:19
  can
• 33:19
  be
• 33:20
  handy.
• 33:20
  Usually
• 33:21
  it's
• 33:21
  on
• 33:21
  a
• 33:21
  nicer
• 33:22
  day.
• 33:22
  It's
• 33:22
  one
• 33:23
  of
• 33:23
  those
• 33:23
  days
• 33:23
  where
• 33:23
  you
• 33:23
  can
• 33:24
  get
• 33:24
  away
• 33:24
  with
• 33:25
  Just
• 33:25
  wearing
• 33:25
  like
• 33:25
  a
• 33:26
  hoodie
• 33:27
  if
• 33:27
  it's
• 33:27
  warmer,
• 33:28
  like
• 33:28
  that
• 33:28
  hoodie
• 33:29
  and
• 33:29
  hopper
• 33:30
  dropper
• 33:31
  setup
• 33:31
  or
• 33:31
  a,
• 33:32
  or
• 33:33
  doesn't
• 33:33
  have
• 33:33
  to
• 33:33
  be
• 33:33
  a
• 33:33
  hopper.
• 33:34
  You
• 33:34
  know,
• 33:34
  you
• 33:34
  could
• 33:35
  use
• 33:36
  a
• 33:37
  bigger
• 33:37
  like
• 33:37
  caddis
• 33:38
  type
• 33:38
  fly
• 33:39
  or
• 33:39
  something
• 33:39
  like
• 33:39
  that.
• 33:41
  So.
• 33:42
  Yeah,
• 33:42
  and
• 33:42
  so
• 33:43
  it's
• 33:43
  interesting.
• 33:43
  So
• 33:43
  on
• 33:44
  the
• 33:44
  nymph
• 33:44
  side,
• 33:44
  I
• 33:44
  imagine
• 33:45
  you're
• 33:45
  probably
• 33:45
  fishing
• 33:46
  what,
• 33:46
  like
• 33:46
  16s
• 33:46
  and
• 33:47
  18s.
• 33:48
  Yeah.
• 33:49
  Right
• 33:49
  in
• 33:49
  that
• 33:49
  zone.
• 33:50
  They
• 33:50
  tend
• 33:50
  to
• 33:50
  be
• 33:50
  small,
• 33:51
  although
• 33:53
  with
• 33:53
  those
• 33:53
  jiggy
• 33:54
  nymphs,
• 33:54
  they're
• 33:55
  probably
• 33:55
  right
• 33:56
  around
• 33:56
  maybe
• 33:57
  a
• 33:57
  12.
• 33:58
  So.
• 33:59
  But
• 33:59
  most
• 33:59
  of
• 33:59
  the
• 34:00
  stuff
• 34:00
  I'm
• 34:00
  fishing
• 34:00
  in
• 34:01
  the
• 34:01
  driftless
• 34:01
  is
• 34:01
  all
• 34:02
  pretty
• 34:02
  small,
• 34:02
  so.
• 34:03
  And
• 34:04
  don't
• 34:04
  be
• 34:04
  afraid
• 34:04
  to
• 34:05
  tie
• 34:05
  smaller
• 34:06
  flies
• 34:06
  on
• 34:07
  bigger
• 34:07
  hooks
• 34:08
  because
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  get
• 34:08
  that
• 34:09
  better
• 34:09
  hook
• 34:09
  app.
• 34:09
  But
• 34:10
  yeah,
• 34:10
  like
• 34:11
  18
• 34:12
  is
• 34:12
  pretty
• 34:13
  small
• 34:13
  for
• 34:13
  a
• 34:13
  nymph,
• 34:14
  so
• 34:15
  I'd
• 34:15
  say
• 34:16
  16.
• 34:17
  I
• 34:18
  mean,
• 34:18
  I've
• 34:18
  used
• 34:18
  18s
• 34:19
  but
• 34:19
  I
• 34:20
  tend
• 34:20
  to
• 34:20
  just.
• 34:20
  I'll
• 34:21
  just
• 34:21
  tie
• 34:21
  smaller
• 34:22
  on
• 34:22
  a
• 34:22
  16
• 34:24
  because
• 34:25
  I
• 34:25
  want
• 34:25
  that
• 34:25
  hook
• 34:26
  gap
• 34:26
  there.
• 34:27
  Yeah,
• 34:27
  the
• 34:27
  jig
• 34:27
  hooks
• 34:28
  are
• 34:28
  nice
• 34:28
  because
• 34:28
  they've
• 34:29
  got
• 34:29
  a
• 34:29
  really
• 34:29
  big
• 34:30
  hook
• 34:30
  gap.
• 34:32
  So
• 34:32
  that's
• 34:33
  why
• 34:33
  I
• 34:33
  kind
• 34:33
  of
• 34:33
  gravitate
• 34:34
  towards
• 34:35
  those
• 34:35
  hooks
• 34:35
  as
• 34:36
  well.
• 34:36
  I
• 34:36
  like
• 34:36
  that
• 34:37
  bigger
• 34:37
  hook
• 34:37
  gap.
• 34:38
  And
• 34:38
  they're,
• 34:39
  they
• 34:39
  seem
• 34:39
  to
• 34:39
  always
• 34:40
  be
• 34:40
  super
• 34:40
  sharp
• 34:41
  right
• 34:41
  out
• 34:41
  of
• 34:41
  the
• 34:42
  package.
• 34:42
  So.
• 34:44
  Yeah,
• 34:44
  the,
• 34:44
  the
• 34:44
  barbless
• 34:45
  stuff
• 34:45
  will
• 34:45
  definitely
• 34:46
  draw
• 34:46
  blood
• 34:46
  these
• 34:46
  days,
• 34:47
  for
• 34:47
  sure.
• 34:49
  Yeah.
• 34:50
  Yeah.
• 34:51
  And
• 34:51
  so,
• 34:51
  you
• 34:51
  know,
• 34:52
  I
• 34:52
  think
• 34:52
  we've
• 34:52
  got
• 34:52
  kind
• 34:52
  of,
• 34:53
  you
• 34:53
  know,
• 34:53
  how
• 34:53
  not
• 34:53
  to
• 34:53
  freeze
• 34:54
  to
• 34:54
  death.
• 34:54
  We,
• 34:55
  we've
• 34:55
  got
• 34:56
  rod
• 34:56
  reel
• 34:56
  line
• 34:56
  leader,
• 34:57
  we've
• 34:57
  got
• 34:57
  fly
• 34:58
  selection.
• 34:58
  Tell
• 34:58
  us
• 34:58
  a
• 34:59
  little
• 34:59
  bit
• 34:59
  about
• 34:59
  kind
• 34:59
  of
• 34:59
  how
• 35:00
  you
• 35:00
  approach
• 35:00
  and
• 35:00
  break
• 35:01
  down
• 35:01
  the
• 35:01
  water.
• 35:03
  So
• 35:03
  a
• 35:03
  lot
• 35:03
  of
• 35:03
  times
• 35:04
  I
• 35:04
  will
• 35:04
  scout
• 35:05
  water
• 35:05
  again.
• 35:06
  Winter
• 35:06
  time's
• 35:06
  an
• 35:06
  awesome
• 35:07
  time
• 35:07
  to
• 35:07
  kind
• 35:08
  of
• 35:08
  scout
• 35:09
  get
• 35:09
  out
• 35:10
  there.
• 35:10
  I'm
• 35:11
  looking
• 35:11
  for
• 35:11
  water
• 35:11
  obviously
• 35:12
  that
• 35:12
  is
• 35:13
  not
• 35:13
  frozen.
• 35:15
  That's
• 35:15
  kind
• 35:15
  of
• 35:15
  a
• 35:16
  key.
• 35:17
  Something
• 35:17
  that
• 35:18
  doesn't
• 35:18
  have
• 35:18
  too
• 35:18
  much
• 35:19
  shelf
• 35:19
  ice.
• 35:21
  That's
• 35:22
  more
• 35:22
  of
• 35:22
  a
• 35:22
  safety
• 35:23
  thing.
• 35:23
  But
• 35:23
  when
• 35:24
  you
• 35:24
  start
• 35:24
  finding
• 35:25
  water
• 35:25
  that's
• 35:25
  open
• 35:26
  one,
• 35:26
  it
• 35:26
  usually
• 35:27
  has
• 35:27
  a
• 35:27
  spring,
• 35:28
  so
• 35:28
  the
• 35:28
  water's
• 35:28
  coming
• 35:29
  out
• 35:29
  of
• 35:29
  the
• 35:29
  ground.
• 35:31
  The
• 35:31
  riffle
• 35:32
  sections
• 35:32
  usually
• 35:33
  tend
• 35:33
  to
• 35:33
  be
• 35:33
  open
• 35:34
  because
• 35:34
  that
• 35:34
  water's
• 35:35
  broken,
• 35:35
  it's
• 35:36
  moving
• 35:36
  a
• 35:36
  little
• 35:36
  faster,
• 35:37
  it
• 35:37
  tends
• 35:38
  to
• 35:38
  stay
• 35:38
  open
• 35:39
  a
• 35:39
  little
• 35:39
  bit
• 35:39
  more.
• 35:40
  The
• 35:40
  big
• 35:40
  long
• 35:41
  stretches,
• 35:43
  you
• 35:43
  know,
• 35:43
  like
• 35:43
  a
• 35:44
  big
• 35:44
  giant
• 35:44
  pool,
• 35:45
  will
• 35:45
  tend
• 35:45
  to
• 35:45
  freeze
• 35:46
  over
• 35:46
  at
• 35:46
  times.
• 35:47
  Unless
• 35:47
  there's
• 35:48
  a
• 35:48
  spring
• 35:48
  coming
• 35:48
  in
• 35:50
  or
• 35:50
  if,
• 35:50
  obviously
• 35:51
  if
• 35:51
  the
• 35:51
  water
• 35:52
  is
• 35:52
  a
• 35:52
  little
• 35:52
  bit
• 35:52
  warmer,
• 35:53
  say
• 35:53
  you
• 35:53
  get
• 35:54
  several
• 35:54
  sunny
• 35:55
  days
• 35:55
  and
• 35:56
  the
• 35:56
  temperature
• 35:57
  starts
• 35:58
  getting
• 35:59
  above
• 35:59
  that
• 35:59
  freezing
• 36:00
  point,
• 36:00
  it'll
• 36:01
  start
• 36:02
  opening
• 36:03
  up
• 36:03
  those
• 36:03
  areas.
• 36:04
  So
• 36:04
  I'm
• 36:05
  looking
• 36:05
  for
• 36:05
  that.
• 36:06
  I
• 36:06
  usually
• 36:07
  will
• 36:07
  fish
• 36:09
  downstream.
• 36:10
  I
• 36:10
  tend
• 36:11
  to
• 36:11
  like
• 36:11
  to
• 36:11
  swing
• 36:12
  some
• 36:13
  of
• 36:13
  My
• 36:13
  streamers
• 36:14
  and
• 36:15
  those
• 36:15
  big
• 36:15
  jiggy
• 36:15
  nymphs.
• 36:17
  And
• 36:17
  I
• 36:17
  tend
• 36:18
  to
• 36:18
  look
• 36:18
  for
• 36:19
  spots
• 36:20
  where
• 36:20
  the
• 36:20
  riffles
• 36:21
  kind
• 36:21
  of
• 36:21
  end
• 36:21
  and
• 36:22
  kind
• 36:22
  of
• 36:22
  go
• 36:22
  into
• 36:22
  a
• 36:23
  pool
• 36:23
  or
• 36:23
  a
• 36:23
  run
• 36:24
  that's
• 36:24
  got
• 36:24
  a
• 36:24
  little
• 36:25
  extra
• 36:25
  depth
• 36:26
  and
• 36:27
  try
• 36:27
  to
• 36:27
  swing
• 36:27
  them
• 36:28
  right
• 36:28
  through
• 36:28
  there.
• 36:28
  So
• 36:29
  kind
• 36:29
  of
• 36:29
  like
• 36:29
  a,
• 36:31
  you
• 36:31
  know,
• 36:32
  that's
• 36:32
  where
• 36:32
  I'm
• 36:32
  looking
• 36:33
  for
• 36:33
  is,
• 36:33
  is
• 36:34
  say
• 36:34
  like
• 36:34
  a
• 36:35
  nymph
• 36:35
  got
• 36:35
  dislodged
• 36:36
  off
• 36:36
  of
• 36:36
  that
• 36:37
  riffle
• 36:37
  section
• 36:38
  and
• 36:39
  it
• 36:39
  happened
• 36:39
  to
• 36:39
  dump
• 36:40
  in
• 36:40
  to
• 36:41
  the
• 36:41
  head
• 36:41
  of
• 36:41
  a
• 36:41
  pool
• 36:42
  or,
• 36:42
  or
• 36:42
  a
• 36:43
  run.
• 36:43
  That's
• 36:44
  what
• 36:44
  we're
• 36:44
  looking
• 36:44
  for.
• 36:45
  Swinging
• 36:45
  that
• 36:46
  into
• 36:46
  there
• 36:47
  also
• 36:47
  works
• 36:47
  really
• 36:48
  good
• 36:48
  for
• 36:48
  streamers.
• 36:49
  You
• 36:50
  know,
• 36:50
  if
• 36:50
  you've
• 36:50
  got
• 36:50
  a
• 36:51
  small
• 36:51
  bait
• 36:51
  fish
• 36:52
  type
• 36:52
  streamer,
• 36:53
  because
• 36:54
  it,
• 36:54
  it's
• 36:54
  a
• 36:55
  fish
• 36:55
  that
• 36:55
  kind
• 36:55
  of
• 36:55
  got
• 36:56
  dislodged
• 36:56
  that
• 36:57
  was
• 36:57
  maybe
• 36:57
  farther
• 36:58
  up
• 36:58
  and
• 36:59
  then
• 36:59
  swings
• 37:00
  through
• 37:00
  there.
• 37:01
  So
• 37:01
  the
• 37:01
  fish
• 37:01
  will
• 37:01
  kind
• 37:02
  of
• 37:02
  hang
• 37:02
  out
• 37:03
  underneath
• 37:03
  there,
• 37:04
  dart
• 37:05
  in,
• 37:05
  grab
• 37:06
  that
• 37:06
  fly.
• 37:08
  I'll
• 37:09
  also
• 37:09
  look
• 37:09
  for
• 37:09
  deeper
• 37:10
  pools
• 37:11
  as
• 37:11
  long
• 37:11
  as
• 37:11
  it's
• 37:11
  open.
• 37:13
  And
• 37:13
  that's
• 37:13
  where
• 37:14
  I'm
• 37:14
  gonna
• 37:15
  start
• 37:15
  maybe
• 37:16
  dredging
• 37:16
  a
• 37:17
  little
• 37:17
  bit
• 37:17
  deeper.
• 37:18
  So
• 37:18
  I'm
• 37:18
  casting
• 37:19
  maybe
• 37:20
  a
• 37:20
  little
• 37:20
  bit
• 37:20
  more
• 37:23
  45
• 37:24
  degree
• 37:24
  angle
• 37:24
  or,
• 37:25
  or
• 37:25
  more
• 37:26
  so
• 37:26
  that
• 37:26
  it
• 37:26
  can
• 37:27
  get
• 37:27
  some
• 37:27
  depth
• 37:28
  down
• 37:28
  there
• 37:28
  and
• 37:29
  be
• 37:29
  able
• 37:29
  to
• 37:30
  swing
• 37:30
  down
• 37:30
  through
• 37:31
  that
• 37:31
  area
• 37:31
  a
• 37:32
  little
• 37:32
  deeper
• 37:33
  or
• 37:34
  even
• 37:34
  doing
• 37:35
  that,
• 37:35
  you
• 37:35
  know,
• 37:36
  upstream
• 37:37
  fishing.
• 37:38
  So
• 37:38
  you're
• 37:39
  getting
• 37:39
  that
• 37:39
  depth
• 37:40
  nice
• 37:40
  and
• 37:40
  slow
• 37:42
  and
• 37:42
  getting
• 37:42
  through
• 37:43
  to
• 37:43
  the
• 37:43
  bottom.
• 37:44
  And
• 37:45
  then
• 37:45
  obviously,
• 37:45
  if
• 37:45
  I'm
• 37:46
  running
• 37:46
  my
• 37:47
  copper
• 37:48
  dropper
• 37:48
  style,
• 37:49
  dry
• 37:50
  dropper,
• 37:51
  I'm
• 37:51
  going
• 37:51
  to
• 37:52
  be
• 37:52
  looking
• 37:52
  for
• 37:52
  areas
• 37:53
  that
• 37:53
  have
• 37:53
  a
• 37:53
  little
• 37:54
  more
• 37:54
  depth
• 37:54
  but
• 37:55
  not
• 37:55
  too
• 37:55
  deep.
• 37:56
  Again,
• 37:56
  that
• 37:57
  kind
• 37:57
  of
• 37:57
  run
• 37:58
  right
• 37:58
  after
• 37:59
  a
• 37:59
  riffle
• 38:00
  where
• 38:00
  I
• 38:00
  think
• 38:00
  those
• 38:01
  fish
• 38:01
  might
• 38:01
  be
• 38:02
  lying
• 38:04
  so
• 38:04
  that
• 38:04
  they
• 38:04
  can
• 38:04
  kind
• 38:05
  of
• 38:05
  attack
• 38:05
  something
• 38:06
  that
• 38:06
  would
• 38:06
  come
• 38:06
  off
• 38:06
  of
• 38:07
  that
• 38:07
  riffle
• 38:08
  because
• 38:08
  that's
• 38:08
  usually
• 38:09
  where
• 38:09
  a
• 38:09
  lot
• 38:09
  of
• 38:10
  the
• 38:12
  small
• 38:13
  little
• 38:13
  nymphs
• 38:13
  and
• 38:13
  stuff
• 38:14
  are
• 38:14
  going
• 38:14
  to
• 38:14
  be.
• 38:15
  Or
• 38:15
  if
• 38:15
  it
• 38:15
  gets
• 38:16
  warm
• 38:16
  enough,
• 38:17
  that's
• 38:17
  where
• 38:19
  say
• 38:19
  these
• 38:19
  stone
• 38:19
  flies
• 38:20
  will
• 38:20
  kind
• 38:20
  of
• 38:21
  come
• 38:21
  out
• 38:21
  sun
• 38:22
  themselves
• 38:22
  and
• 38:23
  then
• 38:23
  if
• 38:23
  they
• 38:23
  happen
• 38:23
  to
• 38:24
  fall
• 38:24
  in
• 38:24
  there,
• 38:25
  that's
• 38:26
  what
• 38:26
  they're
• 38:26
  kind
• 38:26
  of
• 38:26
  looking
• 38:27
  for.
• 38:28
  So.
• 38:29
  Yeah,
• 38:29
  and
• 38:29
  the
• 38:29
  neat
• 38:30
  thing
• 38:30
  too
• 38:30
  is
• 38:30
  all
• 38:30
  those
• 38:31
  places
• 38:31
  you
• 38:31
  talked
• 38:31
  about
• 38:32
  are
• 38:32
  all
• 38:32
  the
• 38:32
  places
• 38:32
  in
• 38:32
  the
• 38:33
  summertime
• 38:33
  where
• 38:33
  the
• 38:33
  water
• 38:34
  is
• 38:34
  going
• 38:34
  to
• 38:34
  be
• 38:34
  cooler
• 38:34
  because
• 38:34
  that's
• 38:35
  where
• 38:35
  the
• 38:35
  springs
• 38:35
  are.
• 38:36
  Exactly.
• 38:37
  Yeah.
• 38:38
  So
• 38:38
  that's
• 38:39
  the
• 38:39
  other
• 38:39
  kind
• 38:40
  of
• 38:40
  fun
• 38:40
  thing
• 38:40
  is
• 38:41
  that,
• 38:42
  you
• 38:42
  know,
• 38:42
  if
• 38:42
  it's
• 38:43
  really
• 38:43
  cold
• 38:44
  and
• 38:44
  say
• 38:44
  it's
• 38:45
  too
• 38:45
  cold
• 38:45
  to
• 38:45
  fish,
• 38:46
  it's
• 38:46
  actually
• 38:46
  a
• 38:47
  great
• 38:47
  time
• 38:47
  to
• 38:47
  run
• 38:47
  around
• 38:48
  and
• 38:48
  just
• 38:48
  kind
• 38:48
  of
• 38:49
  look
• 38:49
  at
• 38:49
  water
• 38:50
  because
• 38:50
  you're
• 38:50
  going
• 38:51
  to
• 38:51
  find
• 38:51
  where
• 38:51
  all
• 38:51
  this,
• 38:53
  those
• 38:54
  little
• 38:55
  warm
• 38:55
  water
• 38:56
  outlets
• 38:57
  are.
• 38:57
  But
• 38:57
  the
• 38:57
  weird
• 38:57
  thing
• 38:58
  is
• 38:58
  in
• 38:58
  the
• 38:58
  Summer,
• 38:59
  that's
• 38:59
  the
• 38:59
  cold
• 39:00
  water,
• 39:01
  because
• 39:01
  that
• 39:01
  water
• 39:02
  kind
• 39:02
  of
• 39:02
  stays
• 39:03
  consistent.
• 39:03
  It's
• 39:04
  coming
• 39:04
  out
• 39:04
  so
• 39:04
  those
• 39:05
  springs
• 39:05
  popping
• 39:05
  up.
• 39:06
  So
• 39:06
  it's
• 39:06
  a
• 39:07
  great
• 39:07
  way
• 39:07
  to
• 39:07
  just
• 39:08
  get
• 39:08
  out
• 39:08
  there,
• 39:09
  find
• 39:09
  some
• 39:09
  cool
• 39:10
  water
• 39:10
  that
• 39:12
  you
• 39:12
  can
• 39:12
  fish.
• 39:13
  And
• 39:13
  you
• 39:13
  can
• 39:13
  usually
• 39:14
  fish
• 39:14
  it
• 39:15
  almost
• 39:15
  all
• 39:16
  season.
• 39:17
  I
• 39:17
  usually,
• 39:18
  when
• 39:18
  the
• 39:18
  water
• 39:19
  does
• 39:19
  get
• 39:19
  really
• 39:19
  hot
• 39:20
  during
• 39:20
  the
• 39:21
  summer,
• 39:22
  those
• 39:22
  fish
• 39:22
  use
• 39:23
  that
• 39:23
  as
• 39:23
  kind
• 39:23
  of
• 39:23
  a.
• 39:24
  That's
• 39:25
  their
• 39:25
  only
• 39:25
  reprieve.
• 39:26
  So
• 39:26
  I
• 39:26
  do
• 39:26
  try
• 39:26
  to
• 39:26
  stay
• 39:27
  away
• 39:27
  from
• 39:27
  it
• 39:27
  when
• 39:28
  it's
• 39:28
  really
• 39:28
  hot.
• 39:29
  But
• 39:30
  it
• 39:30
  is
• 39:30
  a
• 39:30
  great
• 39:30
  way
• 39:31
  to
• 39:31
  find
• 39:31
  where
• 39:32
  those
• 39:32
  springs
• 39:32
  are.
• 39:33
  Those
• 39:33
  fish
• 39:33
  will
• 39:33
  gravitate
• 39:34
  towards
• 39:34
  there.
• 39:36
  So.
• 39:37
  But
• 39:37
  yeah,
• 39:37
  and
• 39:38
  then,
• 39:38
  yeah,
• 39:38
  you're
• 39:39
  kind
• 39:39
  of
• 39:39
  looking
• 39:39
  for
• 39:40
  spots
• 39:40
  that
• 39:40
  you
• 39:40
  would
• 39:40
  look
• 39:41
  for
• 39:42
  most
• 39:43
  of
• 39:43
  the
• 39:43
  time.
• 39:44
  I
• 39:44
  will
• 39:45
  tend
• 39:45
  to
• 39:45
  fish
• 39:45
  a
• 39:46
  little
• 39:46
  bit
• 39:46
  more
• 39:46
  in
• 39:46
  the
• 39:47
  riffles
• 39:47
  because
• 39:48
  they
• 39:48
  will
• 39:48
  move
• 39:48
  up
• 39:49
  at
• 39:49
  certain
• 39:49
  times
• 39:50
  because
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  bugs
• 39:50
  get
• 39:51
  a
• 39:51
  little
• 39:51
  more
• 39:51
  active.
• 39:52
  So
• 39:52
  they'll
• 39:53
  move
• 39:53
  up
• 39:53
  into
• 39:53
  the
• 39:53
  riffles.
• 39:54
  So
• 39:54
  you're
• 39:54
  kind
• 39:54
  of
• 39:54
  hitting
• 39:55
  little
• 39:55
  pocket
• 39:56
  water
• 39:56
  sometimes.
• 39:57
  So
• 39:58
  that's.
• 39:58
  That's
• 39:59
  always
• 39:59
  kind
• 39:59
  of
• 39:59
  fun
• 40:00
  to,
• 40:01
  to
• 40:02
  kind
• 40:02
  of
• 40:02
  hit
• 40:03
  that
• 40:03
  a
• 40:03
  little
• 40:03
  bit,
• 40:05
  you
• 40:05
  know.
• 40:05
  And
• 40:05
  the
• 40:06
  cool
• 40:06
  thing
• 40:06
  is
• 40:06
  you
• 40:06
  don't
• 40:07
  have
• 40:07
  to
• 40:07
  have
• 40:07
  an
• 40:07
  indicator
• 40:08
  all
• 40:08
  the
• 40:08
  time
• 40:08
  for
• 40:09
  that.
• 40:09
  You
• 40:09
  can
• 40:09
  kind
• 40:10
  of
• 40:10
  just
• 40:10
  do
• 40:10
  it
• 40:10
  by
• 40:10
  feel
• 40:11
  or
• 40:11
  sight.
• 40:12
  It's
• 40:12
  not
• 40:13
  really.
• 40:13
  Not
• 40:14
  super
• 40:14
  deep
• 40:14
  there.
• 40:17
  So
• 40:17
  yeah,
• 40:17
  when
• 40:18
  you,
• 40:18
  when
• 40:18
  you
• 40:18
  do
• 40:18
  find
• 40:19
  them
• 40:19
  though,
• 40:20
  I
• 40:20
  kind
• 40:20
  of,
• 40:21
  you
• 40:21
  know,
• 40:21
  that's
• 40:21
  a
• 40:22
  pattern
• 40:22
  that
• 40:22
  you'll
• 40:22
  be
• 40:23
  like,
• 40:23
  okay,
• 40:24
  at
• 40:24
  this
• 40:24
  temperature
• 40:25
  at
• 40:25
  this
• 40:25
  time,
• 40:26
  this
• 40:26
  is
• 40:26
  where
• 40:27
  they
• 40:27
  tend
• 40:27
  to
• 40:27
  be.
• 40:28
  And
• 40:28
  then
• 40:28
  if
• 40:28
  you
• 40:29
  happen
• 40:29
  to
• 40:29
  hit
• 40:29
  those
• 40:30
  weather
• 40:30
  windows
• 40:30
  like
• 40:31
  that,
• 40:31
  that's
• 40:32
  actually,
• 40:33
  you
• 40:33
  know,
• 40:33
  you
• 40:34
  can
• 40:35
  pretty
• 40:35
  much
• 40:37
  go
• 40:38
  to
• 40:38
  any
• 40:38
  stretch
• 40:39
  of
• 40:39
  water
• 40:40
  and
• 40:40
  if
• 40:40
  it's
• 40:41
  got
• 40:41
  a
• 40:41
  similar
• 40:41
  temperature,
• 40:42
  similar
• 40:43
  layout,
• 40:44
  riffles,
• 40:45
  etc.
• 40:46
  That's
• 40:47
  just
• 40:47
  like
• 40:47
  an
• 40:47
  awesome
• 40:48
  time
• 40:48
  to
• 40:49
  hit
• 40:49
  all
• 40:50
  that.
• 40:50
  So
• 40:51
  you've
• 40:51
  kind
• 40:51
  of
• 40:51
  patterned
• 40:52
  them
• 40:54
  so
• 40:54
  that
• 40:55
  later
• 40:55
  on
• 40:55
  you
• 40:55
  can
• 40:56
  hit
• 40:56
  that
• 40:56
  same
• 40:56
  water.
• 40:57
  And
• 40:57
  that's
• 40:57
  good
• 40:58
  to
• 40:58
  like
• 40:58
  write
• 40:59
  that
• 40:59
  down
• 40:59
  in
• 41:00
  your
• 41:00
  notebook
• 41:00
  if
• 41:00
  you're,
• 41:01
  if
• 41:01
  you
• 41:01
  keep
• 41:01
  notes
• 41:02
  so
• 41:02
  that
• 41:02
  when
• 41:02
  you
• 41:03
  do,
• 41:03
  you
• 41:04
  know,
• 41:04
  from
• 41:04
  year
• 41:04
  to
• 41:04
  year,
• 41:05
  you'll
• 41:05
  start
• 41:05
  seeing
• 41:06
  that
• 41:06
  they
• 41:06
  pattern
• 41:07
  very
• 41:07
  similar
• 41:09
  during
• 41:09
  certain
• 41:10
  times.
• 41:11
  Yeah,
• 41:11
  it's
• 41:11
  funny
• 41:12
  you
• 41:12
  say
• 41:12
  that.
• 41:12
  So
• 41:12
  like
• 41:13
  around
• 41:13
  here
• 41:13
  I
• 41:13
  use
• 41:14
  trout
• 41:14
  routes
• 41:15
  to
• 41:15
  drop
• 41:15
  those
• 41:16
  pins
• 41:16
  and
• 41:16
  drop
• 41:16
  those
• 41:17
  notes
• 41:18
  because,
• 41:18
  you
• 41:18
  know,
• 41:20
  I'm
• 41:20
  not
• 41:20
  like
• 41:20
  you.
• 41:20
  I'm
• 41:21
  not
• 41:21
  on
• 41:21
  the
• 41:21
  same
• 41:21
  place
• 41:22
  pieces
• 41:22
  of
• 41:22
  water
• 41:22
  frequently
• 41:23
  enough
• 41:24
  to
• 41:24
  be
• 41:24
  able
• 41:24
  to
• 41:24
  like
• 41:25
  commit
• 41:25
  it
• 41:25
  to
• 41:26
  memory
• 41:26
  with
• 41:27
  a
• 41:27
  notebook.
• 41:28
  But
• 41:28
  yeah,
• 41:29
  I
• 41:29
  mean,
• 41:29
  it's
• 41:29
  an
• 41:30
  amazing
• 41:30
  thing
• 41:30
  to
• 41:30
  kind
• 41:31
  of
• 41:31
  start
• 41:31
  collecting
• 41:32
  that
• 41:32
  information
• 41:32
  or,
• 41:33
  you
• 41:33
  know,
• 41:33
  like
• 41:33
  around
• 41:33
  here,
• 41:34
  you
• 41:35
  know,
• 41:35
  you
• 41:35
  can
• 41:35
  get
• 41:35
  yourself
• 41:36
  in
• 41:37
  places
• 41:37
  that
• 41:37
  you
• 41:38
  have
• 41:38
  a
• 41:38
  hard
• 41:38
  time
• 41:38
  getting
• 41:38
  out
• 41:39
  of.
• 41:39
  So
• 41:39
  that's
• 41:39
  another
• 41:39
  great
• 41:40
  use
• 41:40
  for
• 41:40
  that
• 41:41
  application
• 41:42
  too.
• 41:43
  You
• 41:44
  know,
• 41:44
  if
• 41:44
  folks
• 41:44
  want
• 41:44
  to
• 41:45
  get
• 41:45
  more
• 41:45
  information
• 41:46
  about,
• 41:46
  you
• 41:47
  know,
• 41:47
  access.
• 41:47
  Because
• 41:47
  I
• 41:48
  know
• 41:48
  you've
• 41:48
  got
• 41:48
  a
• 41:48
  really
• 41:48
  robust
• 41:49
  access
• 41:49
  program
• 41:50
  in
• 41:50
  the
• 41:50
  Driftless
• 41:50
  and,
• 41:51
  you
• 41:51
  know,
• 41:51
  other
• 41:51
  fishing
• 41:52
  information.
• 41:52
  Where
• 41:52
  should
• 41:53
  they
• 41:53
  go?
• 41:54
  So
• 41:55
  there,
• 41:55
  there
• 41:55
  is
• 41:56
  some
• 41:56
  great.
• 41:57
  You
• 41:57
  just
• 41:57
  mentioned
• 41:58
  one,
• 41:58
  the
• 41:58
  trout
• 41:58
  routes.
• 41:59
  Trout
• 41:59
  routes
• 41:59
  have
• 42:00
  really
• 42:02
  done
• 42:03
  well.
• 42:04
  They're
• 42:05
  set
• 42:05
  up
• 42:05
  and
• 42:05
  I
• 42:05
  actually
• 42:06
  don't
• 42:07
  run
• 42:07
  it,
• 42:07
  although
• 42:07
  I
• 42:07
  have
• 42:08
  been
• 42:08
  looking
• 42:08
  at
• 42:08
  it.
• 42:10
  But
• 42:11
  trout
• 42:11
  routes
• 42:12
  is
• 42:12
  really
• 42:12
  good.
• 42:12
  It
• 42:12
  kind
• 42:13
  of
• 42:13
  helps
• 42:13
  you
• 42:13
  kind
• 42:13
  of
• 42:13
  find
• 42:14
  some
• 42:14
  water
• 42:15
  and
• 42:16
  then
• 42:16
  it
• 42:16
  also
• 42:17
  helps
• 42:17
  you
• 42:17
  find
• 42:17
  where
• 42:18
  you
• 42:18
  can
• 42:18
  park
• 42:18
  and
• 42:19
  access.
• 42:20
  Our
• 42:20
  access
• 42:21
  here
• 42:21
  in
• 42:21
  Wisconsin,
• 42:23
  throughout
• 42:23
  Wisconsin
• 42:24
  is
• 42:25
  pretty
• 42:25
  amazing.
• 42:26
  There's
• 42:26
  a
• 42:26
  lot
• 42:26
  of
• 42:26
  maps
• 42:27
  there.
• 42:27
  You
• 42:27
  can
• 42:27
  actually
• 42:28
  go
• 42:28
  to
• 42:28
  the
• 42:28
  Wisconsin
• 42:29
  DNR
• 42:30
  site.
• 42:30
  They
• 42:31
  have
• 42:31
  very
• 42:31
  similar
• 42:32
  maps
• 42:32
  that
• 42:34
  trout
• 42:34
  routes
• 42:35
  have,
• 42:35
  but
• 42:35
  it,
• 42:36
  it
• 42:36
  doesn't
• 42:36
  cover
• 42:37
  everything.
• 42:37
  Some
• 42:38
  of
• 42:38
  counties
• 42:38
  are
• 42:39
  a
• 42:39
  little
• 42:39
  different
• 42:40
  with
• 42:40
  their
• 42:40
  access
• 42:41
  and
• 42:41
  that
• 42:43
  the
• 42:43
  nice
• 42:43
  thing
• 42:43
  is
• 42:44
  is
• 42:44
  TU
• 42:44
  has
• 42:45
  been
• 42:45
  really
• 42:45
  active
• 42:46
  in
• 42:46
  trying
• 42:47
  to
• 42:47
  put
• 42:48
  up
• 42:48
  signage
• 42:49
  for
• 42:49
  a
• 42:49
  lot
• 42:49
  of
• 42:49
  these
• 42:50
  places
• 42:51
  so
• 42:51
  that
• 42:51
  you
• 42:51
  kind
• 42:52
  of
• 42:52
  know
• 42:52
  where
• 42:52
  these
• 42:53
  access
• 42:53
  points
• 42:53
  are
• 42:54
  as
• 42:54
  well.
• 42:56
  Because
• 42:56
  not
• 42:57
  everybody
• 42:57
  is
• 42:59
  like
• 43:00
  computer
• 43:00
  savvy.
• 43:02
  So
• 43:02
  it
• 43:02
  is
• 43:02
  kind
• 43:03
  of
• 43:03
  helpful
• 43:03
  that
• 43:03
  way.
• 43:04
  I
• 43:04
  encourage
• 43:05
  people
• 43:05
  to
• 43:05
  get
• 43:05
  a
• 43:06
  guide.
• 43:06
  Of
• 43:06
  course,
• 43:08
  guides
• 43:08
  usually
• 43:09
  know
• 43:09
  where
• 43:09
  all
• 43:09
  the
• 43:10
  great
• 43:10
  access
• 43:10
  is.
• 43:12
  I'm
• 43:12
  fishing
• 43:12
  water
• 43:13
  that
• 43:13
  is
• 43:13
  open
• 43:14
  to
• 43:14
  the
• 43:14
  public.
• 43:15
  So,
• 43:17
  you
• 43:17
  know,
• 43:17
  getting
• 43:18
  a
• 43:18
  guide
• 43:18
  that
• 43:18
  can
• 43:19
  kind
• 43:19
  of
• 43:19
  start
• 43:20
  you
• 43:20
  on
• 43:20
  your
• 43:20
  way
• 43:21
  is,
• 43:22
  is
• 43:22
  great.
• 43:25
  There's
• 43:25
  also
• 43:26
  maps.
• 43:26
  If
• 43:26
  you
• 43:27
  get
• 43:27
  the
• 43:27
  paper
• 43:28
  map,
• 43:28
  like
• 43:28
  when
• 43:28
  you
• 43:28
  get
• 43:29
  your
• 43:29
  license,
• 43:31
  they're
• 43:32
  usually
• 43:32
  at
• 43:33
  the
• 43:33
  say
• 43:34
  like
• 43:35
  the
• 43:35
  hardware
• 43:35
  store
• 43:36
  or
• 43:36
  wherever
• 43:36
  you
• 43:36
  can
• 43:37
  buy
• 43:37
  like
• 43:37
  a
• 43:38
  license.
• 43:38
  I
• 43:38
  usually
• 43:39
  get
• 43:39
  mine
• 43:39
  online,
• 43:40
  but
• 43:40
  I'll
• 43:41
  hit
• 43:41
  the
• 43:41
  hardware
• 43:41
  store
• 43:42
  to
• 43:42
  pick
• 43:42
  up
• 43:42
  some.
• 43:43
  Some
• 43:43
  maps.
• 43:44
  So
• 43:44
  every
• 43:44
  year
• 43:45
  they
• 43:46
  come
• 43:46
  out
• 43:46
  with
• 43:46
  the
• 43:48
  trout
• 43:49
  maps
• 43:50
  for
• 43:50
  that.
• 43:50
  And
• 43:50
  that's
• 43:51
  actually
• 43:51
  a
• 43:51
  really
• 43:51
  good
• 43:52
  way
• 43:52
  to
• 43:52
  kind
• 43:52
  of
• 43:53
  find
• 43:53
  some
• 43:53
  water
• 43:53
  as
• 43:54
  well.
• 43:54
  So
• 43:54
  maps
• 43:55
  kind
• 43:56
  of
• 43:56
  old
• 43:56
  school
• 43:56
  way
• 43:57
  of
• 43:57
  doing
• 43:57
  it.
• 43:57
  But
• 43:58
  that
• 43:58
  really
• 43:58
  has
• 43:58
  helped
• 43:59
  me.
• 43:59
  That's
• 44:00
  kind
• 44:00
  of
• 44:00
  how
• 44:00
  I
• 44:00
  started
• 44:01
  years
• 44:02
  and
• 44:02
  years
• 44:02
  ago.
• 44:03
  So.
• 44:04
  Yeah,
• 44:04
  yeah.
• 44:05
  I've
• 44:05
  got
• 44:05
  all
• 44:05
  the
• 44:05
  gazetteers
• 44:06
  for
• 44:06
  where
• 44:06
  I
• 44:06
  fish.
• 44:07
  Under
• 44:07
  the
• 44:07
  waterproof
• 44:08
  mat
• 44:08
  in
• 44:08
  the
• 44:08
  back
• 44:09
  of
• 44:09
  the
• 44:09
  car.
• 44:10
  Exactly.
• 44:11
  Yeah.
• 44:11
  Those
• 44:12
  gazetteers
• 44:12
  are
• 44:12
  awesome.
• 44:13
  Yeah.
• 44:14
  And
• 44:14
  so,
• 44:14
  you
• 44:14
  know,
• 44:15
  for
• 44:15
  folks
• 44:15
  that
• 44:15
  don't
• 44:15
  know,
• 44:16
  PJ's
• 44:16
  Guide
• 44:16
  Services
• 44:17
  and
• 44:17
  Orvis
• 44:18
  endorsed
• 44:18
  guide
• 44:18
  service
• 44:19
  and
• 44:19
  you
• 44:19
  guide
• 44:19
  for
• 44:20
  lots
• 44:20
  of
• 44:20
  other
• 44:20
  stuff
• 44:21
  other
• 44:21
  than
• 44:21
  trout.
• 44:21
  You
• 44:22
  want
• 44:22
  to
• 44:22
  kind
• 44:22
  of
• 44:22
  tell
• 44:22
  folks
• 44:23
  kind
• 44:23
  of
• 44:23
  what
• 44:23
  you
• 44:23
  offer.
• 44:25
  Yeah.
• 44:25
  So
• 44:26
  we
• 44:26
  are
• 44:26
  an
• 44:26
  Orvis
• 44:27
  endorsed
• 44:29
  guide
• 44:29
  company.
• 44:32
  We
• 44:33
  offer
• 44:34
  Walk
• 44:35
  and
• 44:35
  Wade
• 44:35
  for
• 44:35
  trout.
• 44:36
  We
• 44:36
  also
• 44:37
  offer
• 44:37
  trout
• 44:39
  drift
• 44:40
  trips
• 44:41
  in
• 44:41
  the
• 44:42
  area.
• 44:42
  We're
• 44:43
  one
• 44:43
  of
• 44:43
  just
• 44:43
  a
• 44:44
  few
• 44:44
  guide
• 44:44
  services
• 44:45
  that
• 44:45
  allow
• 44:45
  that.
• 44:46
  And
• 44:47
  then
• 44:47
  we
• 44:47
  also
• 44:47
  do
• 44:48
  smallmouth
• 44:49
  pike
• 44:49
  and
• 44:49
  muskie
• 44:50
  float
• 44:50
  trips
• 44:51
  on
• 44:51
  some
• 44:52
  of
• 44:52
  the
• 44:52
  larger
• 44:52
  rivers
• 44:53
  in
• 44:53
  the
• 44:54
  area.
• 44:54
  Like
• 44:55
  we'll
• 44:55
  go
• 44:55
  over
• 44:55
  to
• 44:55
  the
• 44:56
  Wisconsin
• 44:57
  and
• 44:58
  other
• 44:58
  bigger
• 44:59
  rivers
• 44:59
  like
• 44:59
  that.
• 45:00
  So
• 45:01
  we
• 45:01
  have
• 45:01
  a
• 45:02
  15
• 45:03
  foot
• 45:04
  stealth
• 45:04
  graft
• 45:05
  drift
• 45:06
  boat
• 45:06
  that
• 45:07
  we're
• 45:07
  running
• 45:07
  and
• 45:07
  then
• 45:07
  we
• 45:08
  also
• 45:08
  run
• 45:08
  a
• 45:08
  stealth
• 45:09
  craft
• 45:09
  raft.
• 45:10
  So.
• 45:13
  And
• 45:13
  then
• 45:13
  obviously
• 45:14
  Wacom
• 45:14
  Wade.
• 45:15
  We
• 45:15
  do
• 45:15
  some
• 45:15
  trout
• 45:16
  schools
• 45:16
  in
• 45:16
  the
• 45:17
  springtime.
• 45:18
  We're
• 45:19
  also
• 45:19
  starting
• 45:19
  to
• 45:19
  offer
• 45:20
  now,
• 45:20
  like
• 45:21
  custom
• 45:22
  trout
• 45:22
  schools.
• 45:23
  If
• 45:23
  you
• 45:23
  can
• 45:23
  get
• 45:23
  a
• 45:24
  few
• 45:24
  people
• 45:24
  together,
• 45:25
  you
• 45:26
  can
• 45:26
  come
• 45:27
  here.
• 45:27
  We
• 45:27
  have
• 45:28
  lodging
• 45:29
  and
• 45:29
  stuff
• 45:29
  like
• 45:29
  that
• 45:30
  so
• 45:30
  that
• 45:30
  you
• 45:30
  can
• 45:31
  stay
• 45:31
  here.
• 45:32
  My
• 45:33
  wife
• 45:33
  helps
• 45:34
  teach.
• 45:35
  She's
• 45:35
  a
• 45:35
  certified
• 45:36
  casting
• 45:36
  instructor.
• 45:38
  So
• 45:39
  we're
• 45:40
  able
• 45:40
  to
• 45:40
  offer
• 45:41
  a
• 45:41
  lot
• 45:41
  of
• 45:42
  plans
• 45:43
  for
• 45:43
  people.
• 45:43
  If
• 45:44
  you're
• 45:44
  just
• 45:44
  getting
• 45:44
  started,
• 45:45
  we
• 45:45
  can
• 45:45
  help
• 45:45
  you.
• 45:46
  If
• 45:46
  you're
• 45:47
  a
• 45:47
  seasoned
• 45:47
  angler,
• 45:48
  we
• 45:48
  can
• 45:49
  help
• 45:49
  you.
• 45:50
  So
• 45:50
  there's
• 45:51
  a
• 45:51
  lot
• 45:51
  of
• 45:51
  stuff
• 45:52
  that,
• 45:54
  you
• 45:54
  know,
• 45:54
  if
• 45:55
  you,
• 45:55
  even
• 45:55
  if
• 45:55
  you're
• 45:56
  brand
• 45:56
  new,
• 45:56
  don't
• 45:57
  have
• 45:57
  all
• 45:57
  the
• 45:57
  gear,
• 45:58
  we
• 45:59
  can
• 45:59
  handle
• 45:59
  that.
• 46:00
  We
• 46:01
  obviously
• 46:01
  carry
• 46:01
  a
• 46:02
  lot
• 46:02
  of
• 46:02
  Orvis
• 46:02
  stuff.
• 46:04
  The
• 46:04
  only
• 46:04
  thing
• 46:04
  we
• 46:05
  don't
• 46:05
  do
• 46:05
  are
• 46:05
  waders,
• 46:06
  so
• 46:08
  too
• 46:09
  many
• 46:09
  sizes
• 46:10
  for
• 46:10
  that.
• 46:10
  But
• 46:11
  yeah,
• 46:12
  we
• 46:12
  can.
• 46:12
  If
• 46:13
  you
• 46:13
  want
• 46:13
  to
• 46:13
  get
• 46:13
  on
• 46:13
  the
• 46:13
  water,
• 46:14
  we
• 46:14
  can
• 46:14
  do
• 46:14
  custom
• 46:15
  stuff.
• 46:15
  If
• 46:16
  you
• 46:16
  have
• 46:16
  a
• 46:17
  somebody
• 46:18
  that
• 46:18
  is
• 46:18
  maybe
• 46:19
  not
• 46:20
  into
• 46:20
  angling,
• 46:21
  the
• 46:21
  cool
• 46:21
  part
• 46:21
  is
• 46:22
  you
• 46:22
  can
• 46:22
  bring
• 46:22
  them
• 46:22
  here.
• 46:23
  There's
• 46:23
  awesome
• 46:24
  stuff
• 46:24
  to
• 46:24
  do
• 46:24
  in
• 46:25
  town
• 46:25
  and
• 46:25
  around.
• 46:27
  And
• 46:27
  then
• 46:28
  we
• 46:28
  can
• 46:29
  take
• 46:29
  you
• 46:29
  fishing
• 46:29
  and
• 46:30
  then
• 46:30
  they
• 46:30
  can
• 46:30
  take
• 46:30
  the
• 46:31
  car
• 46:31
  and
• 46:32
  go
• 46:32
  off
• 46:32
  and
• 46:33
  have
• 46:33
  an
• 46:33
  adventure
• 46:33
  that
• 46:34
  way.
• 46:34
  So
• 46:35
  a
• 46:35
  lot
• 46:35
  of
• 46:35
  options.
• 46:37
  Very
• 46:37
  neat.
• 46:37
  And
• 46:38
  so
• 46:38
  what's
• 46:38
  a
• 46:38
  day
• 46:38
  on
• 46:38
  the
• 46:38
  water
• 46:39
  with
• 46:39
  PJ
• 46:39
  like?
• 46:41
  Oh,
• 46:41
  so
• 46:42
  we
• 46:42
  usually.
• 46:43
  Well,
• 46:43
  wintertime
• 46:44
  it's.
• 46:44
  It's
• 46:45
  usually
• 46:45
  just
• 46:45
  a
• 46:45
  half
• 46:46
  a
• 46:46
  day.
• 46:46
  So
• 46:46
  four
• 46:47
  hours,
• 46:48
  we
• 46:48
  get
• 46:49
  out
• 46:49
  to
• 46:49
  the
• 46:49
  water
• 46:50
  and
• 46:50
  then
• 46:50
  do
• 46:51
  four
• 46:51
  hours
• 46:51
  and
• 46:53
  warm
• 46:53
  up
• 46:53
  and.
• 46:54
  And
• 46:55
  all
• 46:55
  that.
• 46:55
  If
• 46:56
  we're
• 46:56
  doing
• 46:56
  a
• 46:56
  full
• 46:57
  day
• 46:57
  trip,
• 46:59
  say
• 46:59
  in
• 46:59
  the
• 46:59
  summertime,
• 47:01
  we
• 47:01
  will
• 47:01
  tend
• 47:02
  to
• 47:02
  get
• 47:02
  out
• 47:02
  early
• 47:03
  and
• 47:03
  then
• 47:04
  we
• 47:04
  will
• 47:05
  hit
• 47:05
  a
• 47:05
  couple
• 47:05
  of
• 47:05
  different
• 47:06
  stretches.
• 47:07
  So
• 47:07
  we'll
• 47:08
  get
• 47:08
  out
• 47:08
  in
• 47:09
  the
• 47:09
  morning,
• 47:09
  hit
• 47:09
  one
• 47:10
  area,
• 47:10
  we'll
• 47:11
  break
• 47:11
  for
• 47:11
  lunch,
• 47:13
  then
• 47:13
  we'll
• 47:13
  go
• 47:13
  hit
• 47:14
  another
• 47:14
  spot,
• 47:15
  either
• 47:15
  in
• 47:16
  the
• 47:16
  same
• 47:16
  watershed
• 47:17
  or
• 47:17
  move
• 47:18
  over
• 47:18
  to
• 47:18
  another
• 47:19
  piece
• 47:20
  of
• 47:20
  water
• 47:21
  and
• 47:21
  hit
• 47:22
  that.
• 47:23
  If
• 47:23
  we're
• 47:23
  doing
• 47:24
  a
• 47:24
  float
• 47:24
  trip,
• 47:25
  we
• 47:25
  will
• 47:26
  be
• 47:26
  heading
• 47:27
  downstream
• 47:29
  and
• 47:30
  obviously
• 47:31
  take
• 47:31
  a
• 47:31
  break
• 47:33
  for
• 47:33
  lunch.
• 47:34
  I
• 47:35
  sometimes
• 47:36
  will
• 47:36
  cook
• 47:37
  on
• 47:37
  the
• 47:37
  boat
• 47:37
  or
• 47:38
  we'll
• 47:38
  set
• 47:38
  it
• 47:39
  all
• 47:39
  up.
• 47:39
  The
• 47:39
  boat's
• 47:40
  really
• 47:40
  comfortable
• 47:41
  so
• 47:41
  we
• 47:41
  can
• 47:41
  do
• 47:41
  it
• 47:42
  all
• 47:42
  from
• 47:42
  there.
• 47:43
  So
• 47:44
  we'll
• 47:44
  get
• 47:44
  about
• 47:44
  eight
• 47:44
  hours
• 47:46
  plus,
• 47:46
  depending
• 47:47
  on
• 47:47
  how
• 47:47
  the
• 47:47
  river's
• 47:48
  fishing,
• 47:49
  how
• 47:49
  the
• 47:50
  day's
• 47:50
  going,
• 47:51
  how
• 47:52
  everybody's
• 47:52
  holding
• 47:53
  up.
• 47:54
  Usually
• 47:55
  most
• 47:55
  people,
• 47:56
  they
• 47:56
  get
• 47:56
  about
• 47:56
  eight
• 47:56
  hours
• 47:57
  in
• 47:57
  and
• 47:57
  they're
• 47:57
  pretty
• 47:58
  done
• 47:58
  with
• 47:58
  fishing.
• 47:59
  But
• 48:00
  sometimes
• 48:00
  I
• 48:00
  can
• 48:01
  go
• 48:01
  a
• 48:01
  little
• 48:01
  bit
• 48:01
  longer.
• 48:03
  Just
• 48:03
  kind
• 48:03
  of
• 48:04
  depends
• 48:04
  on
• 48:04
  the
• 48:04
  day
• 48:05
  and
• 48:05
  how
• 48:05
  everybody
• 48:06
  is
• 48:06
  feeling
• 48:07
  in
• 48:07
  that.
• 48:09
  So
• 48:10
  yeah.
• 48:10
  And
• 48:10
  then
• 48:10
  like
• 48:11
  for
• 48:11
  schools
• 48:11
  we
• 48:12
  tend
• 48:12
  to
• 48:12
  do
• 48:12
  those
• 48:13
  like
• 48:13
  two
• 48:13
  day
• 48:13
  schools.
• 48:15
  We
• 48:15
  do
• 48:16
  breakfast
• 48:17
  and
• 48:17
  lunch
• 48:18
  here
• 48:19
  at
• 48:19
  our
• 48:19
  place
• 48:20
  so
• 48:20
  that
• 48:20
  we
• 48:20
  don't
• 48:21
  have
• 48:21
  to
• 48:21
  like
• 48:21
  herd
• 48:22
  cats
• 48:22
  to
• 48:22
  a,
• 48:24
  to
• 48:24
  a
• 48:24
  restaurant
• 48:25
  and
• 48:25
  do
• 48:25
  all
• 48:26
  that.
• 48:26
  We've,
• 48:26
  we've
• 48:27
  got
• 48:27
  you
• 48:27
  here.
• 48:27
  We're
• 48:28
  gonna
• 48:28
  start
• 48:28
  talking
• 48:28
  about
• 48:29
  fishing
• 48:30
  and
• 48:31
  then
• 48:31
  we
• 48:31
  actually
• 48:31
  do
• 48:32
  get
• 48:32
  out
• 48:32
  on
• 48:32
  the
• 48:32
  water
• 48:34
  and
• 48:34
  try
• 48:35
  to
• 48:35
  do
• 48:35
  as
• 48:35
  much
• 48:36
  on
• 48:36
  the
• 48:36
  water
• 48:37
  as
• 48:37
  we
• 48:38
  can.
• 48:39
  So.
• 48:39
  And
• 48:39
  that's
• 48:40
  usually
• 48:40
  two
• 48:40
  days.
• 48:41
  That's
• 48:41
  about
• 48:42
  most
• 48:42
  people.
• 48:43
  You
• 48:43
  know,
• 48:44
  that's
• 48:44
  a
• 48:44
  lot
• 48:44
  of
• 48:45
  information.
• 48:45
  We'll
• 48:46
  shove
• 48:46
  five
• 48:47
  years
• 48:47
  of
• 48:47
  information
• 48:48
  down
• 48:48
  you.
• 48:49
  But
• 48:50
  we
• 48:50
  have,
• 48:52
  you
• 48:52
  know,
• 48:52
  a
• 48:53
  notebook
• 48:53
  and
• 48:53
  stuff
• 48:54
  like
• 48:54
  that
• 48:54
  for
• 48:54
  you
• 48:55
  to
• 48:55
  like
• 48:55
  look
• 48:55
  back
• 48:56
  and
• 48:56
  you
• 48:57
  can
• 48:57
  see
• 48:57
  what
• 48:57
  we
• 48:58
  were
• 48:58
  talking
• 48:58
  about.
• 48:59
  Remind
• 48:59
  yourself
• 48:59
  in
• 49:00
  that.
• 49:00
  So
• 49:00
  yeah,
• 49:00
  we
• 49:01
  set
• 49:02
  it
• 49:02
  up
• 49:02
  how
• 49:02
  you
• 49:03
  want
• 49:03
  it
• 49:03
  to
• 49:03
  be
• 49:03
  set
• 49:04
  up.
• 49:04
  I
• 49:04
  do
• 49:05
  a
• 49:05
  lot
• 49:05
  of
• 49:05
  like
• 49:06
  kids
• 49:07
  trips
• 49:07
  with
• 49:08
  parents.
• 49:09
  That's
• 49:09
  always
• 49:09
  kind
• 49:09
  of
• 49:10
  fun.
• 49:10
  The
• 49:11
  kids
• 49:11
  have
• 49:11
  a
• 49:11
  great
• 49:12
  time.
• 49:12
  Usually
• 49:13
  by
• 49:13
  the
• 49:13
  afternoon
• 49:14
  they're
• 49:14
  about
• 49:15
  burnt
• 49:15
  out.
• 49:16
  So
• 49:16
  they
• 49:16
  like
• 49:16
  to
• 49:16
  pick
• 49:17
  rocks
• 49:17
  or
• 49:17
  look
• 49:18
  at
• 49:18
  bugs
• 49:18
  or
• 49:19
  look
• 49:19
  at
• 49:19
  rocks
• 49:19
  and
• 49:21
  then
• 49:21
  the
• 49:21
  adults
• 49:22
  can
• 49:22
  fish
• 49:22
  for
• 49:22
  a
• 49:23
  little
• 49:23
  bit.
• 49:24
  Yeah,
• 49:24
  it
• 49:24
  just
• 49:24
  makes
• 49:24
  for
• 49:25
  a
• 49:25
  great
• 49:25
  day.
• 49:26
  Very,
• 49:26
  very
• 49:27
  neat.
• 49:27
  And
• 49:27
  I
• 49:27
  guess
• 49:27
  at
• 49:27
  this
• 49:28
  point
• 49:28
  we're
• 49:28
  probably
• 49:29
  about
• 49:29
  halfway
• 49:30
  through
• 49:30
  show
• 49:30
  season
• 49:31
  and
• 49:31
  I
• 49:31
  was
• 49:32
  wondering,
• 49:32
  are
• 49:32
  people
• 49:32
  going
• 49:32
  to
• 49:32
  be
• 49:33
  able
• 49:33
  to
• 49:33
  catch
• 49:33
  up
• 49:33
  with
• 49:33
  you
• 49:34
  somewhere
• 49:34
  on
• 49:34
  the
• 49:34
  road,
• 49:35
  you
• 49:35
  know,
• 49:35
  for
• 49:35
  the
• 49:35
  next.
• 49:35
  I
• 49:36
  don't
• 49:36
  know.
• 49:36
  We
• 49:36
  got
• 49:36
  probably
• 49:36
  another
• 49:37
  six
• 49:37
  or
• 49:37
  eight
• 49:37
  weeks
• 49:37
  of
• 49:38
  this
• 49:38
  left.
• 49:39
  Yeah.
• 49:40
  So
• 49:40
  we're
• 49:40
  doing
• 49:41
  a
• 49:41
  couple
• 49:41
  of
• 49:41
  shows.
• 49:42
  We're
• 49:42
  doing
• 49:42
  the
• 49:42
  Wisconsin
• 49:43
  fishing
• 49:44
  show
• 49:45
  and
• 49:45
  that's
• 49:46
  coming
• 49:46
  up.
• 49:46
  That's
• 49:46
  February
• 49:47
  21st
• 49:48
  to
• 49:48
  the
• 49:48
  23rd.
• 49:50
  We'll
• 49:50
  be
• 49:51
  there.
• 49:51
  We've
• 49:51
  got
• 49:51
  a
• 49:51
  booth
• 49:52
  there.
• 49:53
  We're
• 49:53
  in
• 49:53
  the
• 49:54
  hallway.
• 49:54
  So
• 49:55
  come
• 49:55
  on
• 49:55
  down.
• 49:57
  We'll
• 49:57
  actually
• 49:58
  have
• 49:58
  a
• 49:58
  raft
• 49:59
  there
• 49:59
  in
• 49:59
  our
• 50:00
  booth.
• 50:00
  And
• 50:01
  then
• 50:02
  my
• 50:02
  wife
• 50:02
  is
• 50:02
  actually
• 50:03
  giving
• 50:03
  a
• 50:03
  presentation
• 50:04
  for
• 50:05
  beginner
• 50:05
  fly
• 50:06
  fishing
• 50:07
  at
• 50:07
  that
• 50:08
  show.
• 50:09
  And
• 50:09
  then
• 50:09
  we're
• 50:10
  also
• 50:10
  going
• 50:10
  to
• 50:10
  be
• 50:10
  at
• 50:10
  Great
• 50:11
  Waters.
• 50:12
  My
• 50:13
  wife
• 50:13
  will
• 50:13
  be
• 50:13
  teaching
• 50:14
  casting
• 50:15
  there
• 50:16
  and
• 50:17
  then
• 50:18
  I'll
• 50:18
  be
• 50:18
  at
• 50:19
  the
• 50:19
  tires
• 50:19
  rows.
• 50:20
  And
• 50:21
  that's
• 50:21
  going
• 50:21
  to
• 50:21
  be
• 50:22
  March
• 50:23
  21st
• 50:24
  to
• 50:24
  the
• 50:25
  23rd.
• 50:27
  So
• 50:27
  that's,
• 50:28
  that's
• 50:28
  also
• 50:28
  coming
• 50:29
  up.
• 50:29
  That's
• 50:29
  a
• 50:29
  great
• 50:30
  show.
• 50:30
  Then
• 50:30
  that's
• 50:31
  in
• 50:32
  Great
• 50:33
  Waters
• 50:33
  is
• 50:33
  going
• 50:34
  to
• 50:34
  be
• 50:34
  in
• 50:34
  Minnesota
• 50:35
  right
• 50:36
  there
• 50:36
  in
• 50:36
  the
• 50:36
  Twin
• 50:37
  Cities.
• 50:38
  So
• 50:38
  fun
• 50:38
  little
• 50:39
  show,
• 50:40
  that
• 50:40
  Wisconsin
• 50:41
  fishing
• 50:42
  show.
• 50:42
  That's
• 50:42
  going
• 50:42
  to
• 50:42
  be
• 50:43
  in
• 50:43
  Madison.
• 50:45
  And
• 50:45
  then
• 50:45
  I'm
• 50:46
  probably
• 50:46
  going
• 50:46
  to
• 50:46
  try
• 50:46
  to
• 50:47
  do
• 50:47
  a
• 50:47
  couple
• 50:47
  other
• 50:47
  shows
• 50:48
  more
• 50:48
  of
• 50:49
  just
• 50:49
  kind
• 50:49
  of
• 50:50
  helping
• 50:50
  out
• 50:51
  Stealthcraft
• 50:51
  where
• 50:52
  I
• 50:52
  can
• 50:52
  again
• 50:53
  if
• 50:53
  it
• 50:53
  all,
• 50:54
  it's
• 50:54
  all
• 50:54
  weather
• 50:55
  dependent
• 50:57
  but
• 50:57
  yeah,
• 50:58
  those
• 50:58
  are
• 50:58
  the
• 50:58
  two
• 50:59
  shows
• 50:59
  we're
• 50:59
  really
• 50:59
  going
• 51:00
  to
• 51:00
  be
• 51:00
  doing.
• 51:01
  Got
• 51:01
  it.
• 51:01
  And
• 51:01
  I'll
• 51:02
  drop
• 51:02
  links
• 51:02
  to
• 51:02
  those
• 51:03
  in
• 51:03
  the
• 51:03
  show
• 51:03
  notes.
• 51:03
  And
• 51:04
  you
• 51:04
  know
• 51:04
  pj,
• 51:04
  before
• 51:05
  I
• 51:05
  let
• 51:05
  you
• 51:05
  go
• 51:05
  tonight,
• 51:05
  is
• 51:05
  there
• 51:06
  anything
• 51:06
  else
• 51:06
  you'd
• 51:06
  like
• 51:06
  to
• 51:07
  share
• 51:07
  with
• 51:07
  our
• 51:07
  listeners?
• 51:09
  Oh,
• 51:09
  well,
• 51:10
  we
• 51:11
  were
• 51:11
  just
• 51:11
  looking
• 51:11
  back
• 51:12
  on
• 51:12
  some
• 51:12
  stuff.
• 51:12
  This
• 51:13
  is
• 51:13
  actually
• 51:13
  going
• 51:13
  to
• 51:13
  be
• 51:14
  my
• 51:14
  15th
• 51:15
  year
• 51:15
  of
• 51:15
  guiding,
• 51:16
  so
• 51:17
  that's
• 51:17
  kind
• 51:17
  of
• 51:18
  a
• 51:18
  special
• 51:18
  thing.
• 51:20
  So
• 51:21
  yeah,
• 51:21
  that's
• 51:22
  long
• 51:22
  time.
• 51:23
  We've
• 51:23
  been
• 51:24
  fly
• 51:24
  fishing
• 51:25
  here
• 51:25
  in
• 51:25
  this
• 51:25
  area
• 51:26
  for
• 51:26
  over
• 51:27
  30
• 51:27
  plus
• 51:28
  years.
• 51:28
  So
• 51:30
  yeah,
• 51:30
  it's
• 51:31
  kind
• 51:31
  of
• 51:31
  a
• 51:32
  big
• 51:32
  year
• 51:32
  for
• 51:33
  us.
• 51:33
  We're
• 51:33
  looking
• 51:34
  forward
• 51:34
  to
• 51:34
  getting
• 51:35
  out
• 51:35
  on
• 51:35
  the
• 51:35
  water.
• 51:36
  My
• 51:37
  wife
• 51:37
  is
• 51:37
  definitely
• 51:38
  going
• 51:38
  to
• 51:38
  be
• 51:38
  spending
• 51:39
  more
• 51:39
  time
• 51:40
  so
• 51:40
  we'll
• 51:40
  be
• 51:40
  able
• 51:41
  to
• 51:41
  do
• 51:41
  a
• 51:41
  lot
• 51:41
  more
• 51:43
  say
• 51:43
  like
• 51:44
  trout
• 51:44
  schools
• 51:45
  and
• 51:46
  casting
• 51:48
  instruction
• 51:49
  if
• 51:49
  need
• 51:49
  be.
• 51:50
  That's
• 51:50
  what
• 51:50
  she
• 51:51
  loves
• 51:51
  doing.
• 51:52
  So
• 51:52
  that's,
• 51:53
  it's
• 51:53
  definitely
• 51:54
  going
• 51:54
  to
• 51:54
  be
• 51:54
  a
• 51:54
  lot
• 51:55
  more,
• 51:55
  lot
• 51:56
  more
• 51:56
  offered
• 51:56
  for
• 51:57
  that
• 51:57
  part
• 51:57
  of
• 51:57
  it.
• 51:59
  We
• 51:59
  are
• 51:59
  more
• 52:00
  than
• 52:00
  happy
• 52:00
  to
• 52:00
  take
• 52:01
  people
• 52:01
  that
• 52:01
  are
• 52:01
  really
• 52:02
  new
• 52:02
  to
• 52:02
  it.
• 52:04
  We
• 52:04
  have
• 52:04
  been
• 52:05
  doing
• 52:06
  this
• 52:06
  for
• 52:07
  so
• 52:07
  long
• 52:07
  and
• 52:07
  teaching.
• 52:09
  There's
• 52:10
  not
• 52:10
  too
• 52:10
  much
• 52:11
  that
• 52:11
  we
• 52:11
  can't
• 52:12
  help
• 52:12
  you
• 52:13
  get
• 52:13
  into
• 52:13
  fly
• 52:14
  fishing.
• 52:15
  So
• 52:15
  super
• 52:16
  fun
• 52:16
  time.
• 52:17
  Yeah,
• 52:17
  very,
• 52:17
  very
• 52:18
  neat.
• 52:18
  And
• 52:18
  so
• 52:18
  if
• 52:18
  folks
• 52:19
  want
• 52:19
  to
• 52:19
  learn
• 52:19
  more
• 52:19
  about
• 52:19
  PJ's
• 52:20
  guide
• 52:20
  service
• 52:21
  or
• 52:21
  follow
• 52:21
  your
• 52:21
  adventures
• 52:22
  on
• 52:22
  the
• 52:22
  water,
• 52:22
  where
• 52:23
  should
• 52:23
  they
• 52:23
  go?
• 52:24
  So
• 52:25
  our
• 52:25
  webpage
• 52:26
  is
• 52:27
  pj
• 52:28
  guideservice.com
• 52:32
  and
• 52:32
  then
• 52:32
  my
• 52:33
  email
• 52:33
  is
• 52:34
  pj
• 52:35
  guidesmail.com
• 52:37
  you
• 52:37
  can
• 52:38
  also
• 52:38
  find
• 52:38
  us
• 52:39
  on
• 52:39
  the
• 52:39
  Orvis
• 52:40
  website
• 52:41
  under
• 52:41
  guides.
• 52:42
  It's
• 52:42
  under
• 52:43
  PJ's
• 52:43
  guide
• 52:43
  service.
• 52:45
  I'm
• 52:46
  also
• 52:46
  on
• 52:47
  social
• 52:48
  media.
• 52:49
  I
• 52:50
  believe
• 52:50
  it's
• 52:50
  PJ
• 52:51
  Smith.
• 52:52
  And
• 52:53
  then
• 52:54
  I
• 52:54
  might
• 52:54
  be
• 52:55
  under
• 52:55
  PJ's
• 52:55
  guide
• 52:56
  service
• 52:56
  too.
• 52:57
  I
• 52:58
  don't
• 52:58
  always,
• 52:59
  that's
• 52:59
  always
• 53:00
  a
• 53:00
  weird
• 53:00
  one
• 53:01
  because
• 53:01
  I've
• 53:01
  got
• 53:02
  a
• 53:02
  couple
• 53:02
  of
• 53:02
  pages.
• 53:03
  But
• 53:04
  yeah,
• 53:05
  just
• 53:05
  look
• 53:05
  me
• 53:05
  up.
• 53:08
  I
• 53:08
  usually
• 53:08
  have
• 53:09
  my,
• 53:11
  yeah,
• 53:12
  Instagram,
• 53:13
  Facebook.
• 53:14
  That's
• 53:14
  where
• 53:14
  I'm
• 53:14
  at.
• 53:16
  Yeah,
• 53:16
  got
• 53:16
  it.
• 53:17
  And
• 53:17
  I'll
• 53:17
  drop
• 53:17
  links
• 53:17
  to
• 53:17
  all
• 53:18
  that
• 53:18
  stuff
• 53:18
  in
• 53:18
  the
• 53:18
  show
• 53:18
  notes
• 53:19
  for
• 53:19
  you.
• 53:19
  And
• 53:19
  pj,
• 53:19
  I
• 53:19
  really
• 53:20
  appreciate
• 53:20
  you
• 53:20
  coming
• 53:20
  back
• 53:21
  on
• 53:21
  the
• 53:21
  podcast.
• 53:22
  Oh
• 53:23
  absolutely.
• 53:23
  I
• 53:23
  appreciate
• 53:24
  being
• 53:25
  able
• 53:25
  to
• 53:25
  do
• 53:25
  this.
• 53:26
  It's
• 53:26
  super
• 53:26
  fun.
• 53:28
  Just
• 53:28
  kind
• 53:28
  of
• 53:29
  spreading
• 53:29
  the
• 53:29
  word
• 53:29
  of
• 53:30
  fly
• 53:30
  fishing
• 53:30
  because
• 53:31
  it,
• 53:31
  you
• 53:32
  know,
• 53:32
  I
• 53:32
  love
• 53:32
  it
• 53:32
  enough.
• 53:33
  I
• 53:33
  actually,
• 53:34
  you
• 53:34
  know,
• 53:35
  that's
• 53:35
  why
• 53:35
  I
• 53:35
  do
• 53:35
  it.
• 53:35
  I
• 53:36
  love
• 53:36
  helping
• 53:37
  people
• 53:37
  get
• 53:37
  on
• 53:38
  to
• 53:38
  fish
• 53:38
  or
• 53:38
  just
• 53:39
  learning
• 53:39
  about
• 53:39
  this
• 53:40
  great
• 53:40
  sport.
• 53:41
  Yeah,
• 53:41
  come
• 53:41
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• 53:42
  anytime.
• 53:42
  Take
• 53:43
  care.
• 53:43
  Well,
• 53:44
  I
• 53:44
  appreciate
• 53:44
  it.
• 53:44
  Thank
• 53:45
  you
• 53:45
  so
• 53:45
  much.
• 53:47
  Well
• 53:47
  folks,
• 53:48
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• 53:48
  hope
• 53:48
  you
• 53:48
  enjoyed
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  the
• 53:49
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• 53:49
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• 53:49
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• 53:49
  we
• 53:50
  enjoyed
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  bringing
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