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#100 - Music Legends, Engaging Stories, and Personal Connections · The Chris and Mike Show

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  And we're live. We are live.
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  Welcome to the Chris and Mike show.
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  I'm Chris, he's Mike and we are here.
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  Actually recording might be higher in quality once we
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  download it and save it to Spotify, Apple podcast and all
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  the other. Places it promised us right
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  there. And I saw it, yeah.
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  So that's Freeman from the rock'n'roll band Nemesis.
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  You know, I don't know who told me to do the little chicka
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  chicka things. Chicka chicka boom boom.
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  Or if I just made that up myself.
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  But I'm glad they ended up in there because that's the thing
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  that keeps me hooked every time. Like in between where you're
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  singing? Yeah.
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  It just flows. So it just leads right back into
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  your next line of every verse, you know?
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  I think that probably just organically came about when we
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  were rocking and rolling, man, when we were rehearsing and shit
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  and then talking before and after practices and talking
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  before and after shows and, you know, 'cause everything we did
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  just kind of evolved, right, 'cause you had the music
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  written. Yeah, I think it was one of
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  those things where we all said how are we going to fill that
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  gap, you know, 'cause all there was was drums and bass there at
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  that moment in time, which there's nothing wrong with that,
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  but I think we said something needs to be there to keep
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  people's interest into each line, you know?
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  Yeah, yeah, because interest is important.
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  In case you're you're just joining us, this is the Chris
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  and Mike show. We're on Instagram, Facebook and
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  YouTube soon to come. We're building a website at
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  Chris and mikeshow.com. And how cool was that that that
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  actually was available? It's awesome.
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  And I just closed my mind, man. I.
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  Just had a thought. That's where we're going to be
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  going live to twice a week, and we will post on that website
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  when those times will occur, but that'll be a perfect place to go
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  live to every week. That will be a perfect place to
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  go live because there's, there's, there's, there's a way
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  to do it on YouTube because I set up, Mike knows this, you all
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  don't know this in the real world, but I set up on my
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  YouTube page a podcast. So therefore I have real estate
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  guy. It's called a moment with the
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  real estate guy. I drop it every Tuesday at 1:00.
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  But there's a little, you know, minute and a half, two-minute
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  segments of just things you got to know about buying or selling
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  a house. And I didn't realize it, but
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  YouTube, you actually have a, a, a tab for podcast.
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  So have our YouTube channel itself is just all about us.
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  So it doesn't really matter because we don't do organic
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  videos and stuff. Although I guess we could move
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  them, start moving them to the podcast tab and see what that
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  does. I don't know if it generates it,
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  if it sends it out to, you know, different places or what not.
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  So that'll be interesting to find out.
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  I'll watch mine and see how it evolves.
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  Now a fun thing when I was fucking around with with with
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  our page because I set up the shorts and stuff.
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  For those of you don't know, we have all the shorts and stuff
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  set up to where they're dropping twice a day, morning and
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  afternoon. And I haven't scheduled out till
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  I don't know like June because we have so many shorts and
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  stuff. And what what that does is helps
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  you guys like see little, you know, snips and pieces of us and
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  then, you know, prompts you to go to the big, the big, the big
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  show, right? The Big Show.
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  The big show on the big show today.
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  So I told him I, I sent Mike because I was looking at him as
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  I'm scheduled because they're all in drafts.
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  We had a short. It was, we have a short because
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  it's still there. That's 25 seconds long.
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  That was around about the time Eli was on the ballot for the
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  Hall of Fame for the NFL Hall of Fame, and Bill Belichick had
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  championed his reasoning why Eli should go to the Hall of Fame as
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  a first ballot football player, which we debated that and it's
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  all debated in the sports world. That damn thing had almost
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  12,000 views when I looked at it for a.
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  Short for a short of a podcast that nobody even knows who we
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  are yet. That's.
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  Well, some people, some people do.
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  I mean, we made it to Australia, but that's because the guest
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  that was supposed to be on here today is actually in Australia,
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  so. Obviously, you know what I mean?
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  I mean, we're not already famous people who can drop a podcast
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  and automatically you have 100,000 listeners or a million.
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  So when you say something like that, it blew my mind too
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  because I'm fascinated at the ones that shoot up to 800 or
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  1000 real quick. You know, it's like that's
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  awesome. People are listening, they are
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  watching. I didn't mean nobody like you
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  people who are listening. We love you.
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  Thank you for listening. We're thankful that the podcast
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  is growing. Yeah.
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  I just meant that, you know, we're not Jennifer Aniston,
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  We're not a household Johnny Depp or, you know, right?
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  Right, right, right, right. I don't know why we're not
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  Jennifer's Aniston or Johnny Depp.
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  I mean, you know. I'm coming back as Jennifer
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  Aniston. Really like Ageless.
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  You want to jump all those dudes, huh?
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  I just want all that well, Well, yeah, I was.
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  I mean, if you're a chick, it doesn't, you know, it doesn't.
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  It doesn't, you know, whatever. Anyway, we're not going down
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  that path. We had a good time.
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  I'm having a good time. So hey, you know, so Australia,
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  I mentioned that and I would be remiss if I didn't do this
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  because when you, when you schedule an appointment with
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  somebody, whether it's it's, it's a podcast or whether it's
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  business, whether it's showing houses, whether it's you're
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  going to a lunch meeting and you know, whatever.
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  Play my gig. When, when?
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  Yeah, when you schedule something with somebody well in
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  advance. And we had this conversation
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  around the time that Nikki had her birthday because I scheduled
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  that shit, you know, six months ahead of time.
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  If you're going to bail the night before, you're not.
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  We're never going to reapproach you and we're not going to come
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  back to you and say, oh, please be on our show.
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  So the guy that was supposed to be on today was a dude named
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  Lawson from Australia A or Australia by 8.
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  And as I, as I sent him the link last night, he's like, oh, go to
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  Bill. Fuck you, dude.
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  That's all I got to say. You're going to schedule a time
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  with us. Our time is valuable.
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  We know what the hell we're doing.
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  People that are on this show have have had nothing but
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  positive things to say. It's helped their business,
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  their their their engagement, their social media platforms and
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  stuff grow. Why?
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  Because our conversations are centered around that person.
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  Mike and I don't have an agenda. No.
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  We aren't here no, we are here to talk to you to to find out
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  what it is you're looking to do in life what it is you're
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  champion what it is you've you've come from are going to do
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  and and stuff you like that. We do not we do not sell
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  anything. OK, this is this is hemp works
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  OK, feel free to reach out to me later and I'll tell you how I
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  can buy it, but don't bump this is.
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  You let me walk right into that. One, this is cleansing and
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  vitality energy. It's it's pretty legit, man.
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  She's pretty legit. I, I've tried it a couple days
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  and, and I'm like, that's it's, you get it, you feel it, you
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  feel a little bit of energy, you feel a little woo, you know,
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  like, like. I'm going to reach out to you
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  after the show. Yeah, yeah, it was.
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  What was it, Ric Flair? Woo.
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  The nature boy. The nature boy.
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  The nature boy with the hip works.
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  Woo. So I talked to Nate Palmer
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  today. He's down on the 23rd.
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  We're going to record the show again with Nate Palmer, the
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  $1,000,000 body. He's fucking legit.
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  He's he's ripped. He's he's super healthy,
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  lifestyle guy, fitness trainer, all that kind of jazz.
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  Been there, done that, failed many, many, many times.
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  But in failing, he's learned how to grow his business, which is
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  cool. So he was on our show the day
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  that Mike couldn't be on the show because the Internet was
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  wacky and for for some reason that got like the highest rated
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  show we've ever had in the history of the Chris and Mike
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  show. That's a joke, Mike.
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  It was close. Actually.
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  No, I already watched it. It was.
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  You have to be here to help this thing.
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  No Anyway. No, no, no, no, no.
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  I didn't realize you were making a joke until.
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  You did. You were making a joke.
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  You got me on that one, I know. OK.
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  Hold on, keep, keep talking. So what I'm going to say so.
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  So Nate's coming on the bother. Keep talking.
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  That was a quick move. Hey, hold on.
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  No. Keep talking.
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  OK, so Nate, so Nate's coming on the show getting Nate Palmer
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  $1,000,000 body and then we're having oh, fuck Peter Ho, who
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  was just on. I don't I don't know when his
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  show airs, but it's coming. It's coming quick, Nate.
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  Palmer is in the top 12 most listened to shows and Chris and
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  Mike show out of what, almost 100 show?
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  So yeah, that's why I would. I mean, I get it now, but I was
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  right there with you because it shot up the rankings quick so.
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  Yeah. Because you, I told you, you
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  guys not like I would have distracted from your energy.
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  I'm just saying he really added something to the show, just like
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  Mark did. I just got a compliment today on
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  the Mark Jeffrey show. Just, I mean, why wouldn't the
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  guy's been on the radio for 40? Years.
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  Yeah, pretty easy on the ears is what the person told me.
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  You know, just really enjoyed the stories.
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  And I said, yeah, how can you go wrong having a veteran radio guy
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  on your podcast? So thanks.
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  Mark. Well, right.
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  And the really cool thing about Mark and you and I think it
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  translated very well with with him being on the show and I
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  think you knew a little bit of of his character and the type of
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  human is but just interacting socially since.
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  Oh, I think I yeah, I think I said it on the podcast.
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  Like, I always wondered if what came through that traffic report
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  and the things that he did on television and, you know, are
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  are you the real deal or is it that guy's a genuine human
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  being. You know, he's got a beautiful
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  soul. Yeah, that's where I was going
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  with that. He's genuine.
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  He's not. And that was, if you haven't
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  listened to the show, I'd say go back and listen to it.
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  Because the cool thing about Mark, I met him when I was doing
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  my radio show on iheart Real Talk USA with the real estate
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  guy. And.
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  And every time I'd have guests come on, come into the studio,
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  the first thing we would do is we would give them a tour behind
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  the scenes of a radio studio. Because most people never get
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  that opportunity to actually go beyond that that door, because
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  you can go to the lobby, you know, to pick up tickets,
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  concert tickets and shit, whatever you.
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  Want to see the control room and right?
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  Exactly, so you so you step off the elevator on I heart right.
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  It's on the, it's on the 3rd floor where all the, where all
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  the, the, the shows and stuff are housed and where all the,
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  the DJs and personalities go. You step off the elevator.
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  There's, there's four sets of elevators, both sides.
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  You could out your face in the elevator, right?
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  So then you have three other ones on that little elevator
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  lobby. Well, to your left is, is the
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  fuck you're not getting in your door like secured lock down to
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  the right is the door to the lobby.
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  Everybody goes to the lobby because that's where you're
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  picking up your stuff. So, so everything in Arizona
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  that's I heart is 95 five 96998 seven 99.9 one O 2.5.
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  And then you have the AM stuff 6/29/10 and and the KFIYKFYIK
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  FYI2 right? So I was on the K FYI1 and two,
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  but so everybody's on that floor.
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  So I, I got to introduce Nikki to John Jay and, and Rich
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  because she she loved listening to John Jay forever.
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  So that was kind of a cool moment because you know, Nikki
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  is like 5-2, John Jay is like, you know, 6/2.
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  But that was really cool 'cause then, and then I'm not friends
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  with John Jay, but we know who each other are.
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  So every now and then on Instagram they'll be back tags
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  and shit like that 'cause he's just, he's again, he's a genuine
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  human, which is how Mark was. Because when we would go and
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  take people on the tour behind the scenes, they would see where
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  the bands come to play. Let Mark talked about when if
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  anybody comes through the Valley doing a concert, typically the
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  afternoon of that concert, they'll come in and do a free
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  show, two or three songs and sign autographs and shit.
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  And then you go, you would go through the 910 Fox Sports
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  studio because who doesn't like sports?
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  Then we would take him through the traffic hub, which was
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  Mark's thing. And and the thing was huge, man.
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  I mean, I'm going to say like 5000 square feet of cubicles and
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  screens like everywhere. And then Mark had his own little
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  office on the side, but this thing was mammoth.
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  And he would just explain to people what he did and what all
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  this was about. It was really cool.
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  So during my time on the show, there was there was elections
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  and shit. So he would see all that stuff
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  going on. But that was a cool thing about
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  Mark. Once I turned that corner, I was
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  with Steve Giannini, the guy who's kind of behind my show
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  because I didn't have the keys to the Kingdom.
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  I had to. I was accessible with someone
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  who did. But then Mark would take that
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  tour over and he was just genuine and fun and funny and he
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  was everything. Everything he was doing was was
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  kind of just enhancing their experience of being at a radio
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  station that that most people will never get to see, which I
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  thought. That's awesome, man.
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  And then we'd end up going back into, into my, my space where I
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  recorded and which was a legit recording studio and, and, and,
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  you know, just hang out and Margie would be there.
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  And you know, Margie was my cohort on the show.
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  I'm going to steal your I never know how to, I never know how to
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  respond when someone says so you're friends with.
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  I liked how you said, well, they know who I am.
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  Yeah. Yeah, that's a great way to put
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  it. I'm going to start using that.
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  Like we're not friends. But yeah, if you asked them, do
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  you know who this is, they would say of course, right?
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  So yeah, I mean, it's not like I'm going to call John Jeff, say
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  hey dude, come over for dinner. Tomorrow I just like the way you
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  put that. I'm going to use that.
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  But it's, I mean, it's it's, I think it's the easiest way to
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  because you're not name dropping, right?
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  You're not saying, oh, look at me, I'm so cool.
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  I know Mark Jeffrey, but I know Mark Jeffrey.
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  There's a call mark. Jeffrey, right now.
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  I think there's a difference between name dropping and being
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  necessity being a necessity for the story, right?
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  Yes. Sometimes I'll say I don't like
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  doing this, but because they're part of the story, you know,
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  this person or that group or whatever is involved.
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  Yeah, yeah. Agreed.
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  Yeah. Because I do not like people who
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  are like, hey, man, I was over at Brad Pitt's house the other
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  night. Like what?
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  Parking cars. Right if you just join us, this
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  is the Chris and Mike show. You can find us on Instagram,
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  give us a follow on YouTube, subscribe all the kind of fun
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  stuff coming soon Chris and mikeshow.com, which Mike alluded
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  to earlier. We will forgot a way to make
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  this stuff go live through the website and and.
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  It'll be easy to do it to there. We just got to start building
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  it. I bought the domain name, we
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  just now got to build it. We should ask your brother, the
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  tech guy who's the best, easiest way to have a website?
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  Because all the websites I've ever built are real estate
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  related and I don't want to build a real estate related
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  website. I can look into doing that for
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  sure. For you I'm thinking
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  Squarespace. Squarespace Square.
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  So I head into. The Cave and do some research.
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  Going to The Cave. So that's from Pulp Fiction.
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  Don't be a square. OK, That's that's where I stole
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  that from right on. So I had this thing today.
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  I put battle of two songs, right?
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  And they're two iconic songs. Did you see that on my Facebook?
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  Did you not see my response? I've been, I've been fucking
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  around all day man, but OK. Good.
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  Like you have a job, you know you're out there working like a
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  real person. Not really.
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  I'm trying to work. I'm trying to get people to get
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  off the fence and buy some houses.
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  Like if you're listening you want to buy a house, call me
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  'cause. I know you're out there. 22,000.
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  Dollars. That's why I was being funny.
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  I know you're a funny guy. You're a.
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  Funny, what I said was, oh, that's a tough one.
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  Yeah, but I think Jack and Diane edges out American Girl for me,
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  and it pained me to do that because I fucking love Tom Petty
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  like there's no tomorrow. That man was, I think he only
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  ever knew a good time his entire life, and if anybody ever died
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  happy, it was him. Yeah.
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  And well, maybe because because he, he did, he was, he was in
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  some pain and shit when he died. And we, a lot of people think
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  that his, his overdose. I mean, obviously it was
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  accidental. He didn't, I don't think he
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  intended to kill himself that night, but the toxicology had
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  different kinds of painkillers and shit in him.
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  So I don't, I don't and. If that was the end for him,
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  yeah, then, you know, if that was his choice, that's that was
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  his choice. I mean, nobody wants to be in
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  chronic pain. But I'm just saying if you look
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  at his career, who would not have wanted to have been Tom
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  Petty? You know?
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  No, Agreed. Never hurt anybody.
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  Was never no. He went through a rough period
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  where his label tried to make him a parody of himself, and if
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  you watch the documentary that his daughter authorized, they
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  talk a lot about that where he ended up doing that Wildflower
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  album and his record company kept telling him.
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  Wallflowers. No, it the.
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  Album Oh, the wildflower. Oh yeah, you're right.
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  OK, I was thinking The Wallflowers because that was.
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  He made that executive decision to make that album and the
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  record company was pissed. They were like, you know, this
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  is a career suicide. You're, you're shooting yourself
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  in the foot. Good luck.
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  You know, nobody will ever care about Tom Petty again.
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  It went on to be like the biggest album ever recorded
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  because it was honest, right? What do we keep saying?
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  We try and be real, raw and relevant, right?
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  Just honest, organic. That's what that album is.
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  You Wrecked Me is on there. Mary Jane's Last Dance was on
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  there. On wildflowers because I'm
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  looking at it. That's not.
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  Oh, there it is. You wrecked me.
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  Yep, Yep. Only a broken heart.
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  Don't fade on me. Cabin down below a higher place
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  calling back to you. You don't know how it is.
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  Wildflower time. Move on.
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  Good to be king. Honey bee hard to me.
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  Find a friend. House in the woods and wake up
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  time. What's it called Sound on there
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  on Mary. Jane, that must have been the
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  album before I was Thinking of You Wrecked Me.
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  Yeah, no, you wrecked me. Yeah, you wrecked me some.
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  That's a great song. And this was released in Jan, in
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  November 1st, 1994. It's 62 minutes, 48 seconds
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  long, is recorded in sound studio Van Nuys Ocean Way
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  Hollywood. Yeah, there's a lot of footage
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  in that documentary from that Sound City right on.
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  Let's see how many things did this did Ringo Ringo Starr
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  played on drums and a couple of the songs.
• 17:53
  Well, that's awesome. Yeah, they probably talk about
• 17:56
  that in there. I forgot about that.
• 17:59
  Sales. Let's see how many album albums
• 18:02
  he sold. You rigged me, baby.
• 18:08
  Damn, now I don't know. I'm singing American Girl in my
• 18:11
  head, and I think maybe I like that better. 3.4 million albums
• 18:16
  sold of that one Tom Petty album sells the best selling
• 18:22
  albums.org So great Greatest hits is 12,000,012.9 million.
• 18:28
  Full Moon Fever great fucking albums.
• 18:30
  Just just over 6,000,000. Wildflowers 3.4 millions.
• 18:34
  So it was damn, damn the torpedoes. 3.2 million right
• 18:42
  into the dray. Wide open 2.6 million.
• 18:46
  I love that skies of blue. That's what Mary Jane's last
• 18:49
  dance is. On into that way, wide open, a
• 18:52
  rebel without a clue. And if I'm right on that one, I
• 18:55
  give up. Hard promises 1.1 million Now
• 18:59
  Hard promises was back in in 8081, so it was it was a feat to
• 19:06
  do a million sales. I was just getting ready to ask
• 19:09
  you what year it was. A gold record was a platinum
• 19:13
  record now back then. Right.
• 19:15
  Because the gold record, right? Well wasn't gold 500,000 and
• 19:19
  then platinum was 1,000,000? Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
• 19:21
  You are. You couldn't be any more
• 19:23
  correct. It was really rare to have a
• 19:25
  platinum album. Yeah, in 1981.
• 19:28
  So that was huge. Right, so and just to put this
• 19:31
  in more perspective, hard promises, which is refugees on
• 19:34
  that. That's the that was my first
• 19:35
  introduction to to Tom Petty. That was on right.
• 19:38
  Me too. Oh yeah dude have to live like a
• 19:41
  refugee. So in Canada A it was 100,000
• 19:46
  sales and that equated to a platinum.
• 19:49
  That's because there's only 23 million people that live in
• 19:52
  Canada, or 32 million or something.
• 19:54
  Right. New Zealand, it went going
• 19:56
  California. Yeah, New Zealand went gold
• 19:58
  because it only sold 7500 copies and then United States it sold
• 20:03
  1,000,000. As of August 10th, 1981.
• 20:07
  So back then it was it was 1.1 million in all three countries.
• 20:11
  It's weird. Those are the three countries
• 20:12
  they look at. And it was ranked #72 in the 80s
• 20:16
  it was ranked number 834 with all the Billboard stuff and
• 20:19
  overall was a 44184 ranking. Best selling albums of all time.
• 20:25
  OK, so let me ask you this. OK.
• 20:29
  How many copies did Johnny Cougar Mellencamp camp?
• 20:33
  Maybe he was just Johnny Cougar then.
• 20:35
  OK, let's see. Tell me how many copies he sold
• 20:38
  of American Fool. Just that album for now.
• 20:41
  I Will American, which is a good fucking album.
• 20:44
  Well, that's the one we're pitting against Tom Petty's
• 20:47
  album. American Fool would eventually
• 20:50
  sell 10 million copies worldwide, 5 million in the US
• 20:53
  alone. From 83 to 87, Mellencamp
• 20:55
  released 3 consecutive albums. Uh Huh.
• 20:57
  Scarecrow and A Lonesome Jubilee, which were all
• 20:59
  certified triple platinum by the RIAA.
• 21:02
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• 21:07
  That's my radio voice. Did you like that?
• 21:10
  So, so so. Tom Petty.
• 21:13
  Tom Petty. We were just on Tom Petty's page
• 21:15
  and he's sold 31 millions, OK, 31 million albums, OK OK
• 21:22
  Mellencamp. He has sold over 60 million
• 21:26
  albums worldwide. Double Petty, right?
• 21:32
  Well, how he? He was three different people.
• 21:34
  He was true John Cougar, right? He was First he was John Cougar,
• 21:40
  right? Then he was John Cougar.
• 21:42
  Yep, Then he was John Cougar Mellencamp.
• 21:44
  Right. Then he married John Mellencamp.
• 21:46
  So there's four, and Mellencamp's there's four
• 21:48
  different people. Maybe the Johnny Cougar was what
• 21:51
  they tried to get him to be and he settled that John Cougar.
• 21:54
  I can't remember how that story went, but anyway, he's been at
• 21:56
  least three different people. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:59
  Who has the most successful? I would not have guessed in a
• 22:02
  million years that he outsold Tom Penny like that.
• 22:05
  I I. Me neither.
• 22:06
  Me neither. I would have guessed he outsold
• 22:09
  him, but not to that level. Yeah, I'm going to.
• 22:14
  I'm going to do it again to see if what Tom gets Tom Petty.
• 22:18
  Oh, actually it's the same. Over 60 million albums
• 22:23
  worldwide, just like Mellencamp. OK, that's.
• 22:25
  More so so so. Petty has 31.4 million in
• 22:28
  America and and John has 30 million in America.
• 22:32
  So he's edged out. He's edged out.
• 22:35
  I'm sorry, no, my eyes are old. 80 million, 80 million records
• 22:39
  all time. He's making him one of the best
• 22:40
  selling artists of all time. So he actually he's he's
• 22:42
  trumped, but he's he beat Mellencamp by at least 20
• 22:45
  million, give or take, because you know, it's the inner web.
• 22:48
  We don't know what I was. Thinking that my musical
• 22:50
  knowledge was fading, like there was number tomorrow.
• 22:53
  I'm like, there's no way that Mellencamp outsold Tom Petty.
• 22:56
  Well, the only reason, the only reason why I kind of believed it
• 22:58
  for a second there was 'cause all the farm aid, I mean,
• 23:00
  Mellencamp was fucking huge in the 80s, man.
• 23:03
  Oh no, it just fucking question. Like once once he got past.
• 23:08
  He was God around this part, these parts.
• 23:10
  Yeah. Illinois, Iowa, Ohio.
• 23:12
  Yeah, once he got past his opening stuff, 'cause when he
• 23:15
  was open for people he got buyer bottles thrown in him and stuff
• 23:17
  like that. He wasn't, he wasn't very well
• 23:19
  accepted, but once I what was his?
• 23:22
  Was it? Was it American full of his
• 23:23
  breakout? Yeah, no, yeah, absolutely.
• 23:29
  Because that's the one that had hand hand to.
• 23:32
  Hold on to. The song that Jack and Diane.
• 23:35
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see what these albums are.
• 23:41
  And then Aha came out after that that had crumbling walls, pink
• 23:45
  houses. Yeah, when the walls come
• 23:48
  tumbling. Down when the I'm wrong.
• 23:50
  Pink Houses is not on that album.
• 23:51
  And down when the balls when. The play guitar was on that
• 23:55
  album. That was a good song too.
• 23:57
  Yep, peg Guitar. That is a good song.
• 24:01
  Peg Guitar. Just for the record, ladies and
• 24:03
  gentlemen, Chris and I had one of the most fun times a human
• 24:07
  being could have at John Mellencamp.
• 24:10
  We did. We are definitely fans.
• 24:12
  So whatever shit we talk about him, we love the guy and we had
• 24:15
  a great time. He put on a hell of a show.
• 24:17
  He did. I remember when when when all
• 24:20
  the lights came up like he had the guys, the stage guys turn
• 24:23
  the lights up and hit the crowd in the entire and he just
• 24:24
  stopped singing it. I forget what song it was, but
• 24:26
  it was probably either Pink Houses or Cherry bomb.
• 24:28
  One of those and the entire crowd was just singing.
• 24:31
  And they were. All.
• 24:32
  It was fucking beautiful. The band was just standing there
• 24:35
  like I'm being chills right now 'cause that's that's the thing.
• 24:38
  You. Just brought that memory right
• 24:39
  back to the front of my mind. I'd forgotten that, but I just
• 24:42
  saw it in my head as. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.
• 24:45
  If you don't understand why musicians are musicians and what
• 24:48
  they strive for as as as being in a band, that's that's it to
• 24:52
  stand on a stage. And take the microphone.
• 24:57
  Right. And to take the microphone away
• 24:59
  and just look at the audience, sing your song back to you.
• 25:03
  Nothing like it. There's nothing like it.
• 25:06
  I had that happen in Sturgeon. Granted, it was simple man,
• 25:08
  because the way I, the way my Southern style singing worked
• 25:11
  with Simple man it, it was a whole new level of that.
• 25:14
  Like, I think it was better than Shinedown's version, but it was
• 25:17
  never recorded. But we did that so well in that
• 25:20
  band that they asked it again, asked us to play it the next
• 25:23
  night and we did it. And I forget where I got into
• 25:26
  it, but they just, I just stopped.
• 25:28
  I put. I believe it because you got
• 25:29
  written up in the what was it New Times or music voice?
• 25:32
  Remember they said that that was the best version of Roadhouse
• 25:35
  Blues they had seen outside the doors that we played at the
• 25:38
  Electric Ballroom. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:40
  So that was that was my that was my, my moment of, of feeling
• 25:44
  that, that wave of energy just like, holy shit.
• 25:48
  And it's you can't help, man, you're just, I mean, I'm sure I
• 25:50
  had a shitty grin across my face, ear to ear and the whole
• 25:53
  corner just tingling and alive because it's just like.
• 25:56
  You feel all that energy. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:59
  So that's that's the rush. That's the thing that musicians
• 26:02
  and bands search for. And that's why we want some type
• 26:06
  of success. So we can actually just have
• 26:09
  have people sing back your songs and just and and be a part of
• 26:12
  that. Like I did it used to do it when
• 26:14
  we would cover rocking in the free world here locally with
• 26:17
  that band, we would, I would get a lot of the crowd engaged and
• 26:19
  shit just because I would get them engaged.
• 26:21
  So that was cool. But doing on a stage in Sturgis,
• 26:25
  that was really cool. And unfortunately it was before
• 26:27
  all the smartphones and shit, they were just flip phones.
• 26:29
  So none of it, none of it was documented, which sucks.
• 26:33
  That's what still sucks about that DVD, man.
• 26:35
  I yeah, I think there's a place I can take that video to to see
• 26:40
  if it is salvageable. But we would have some good
• 26:43
  footage. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:44
  Thanks to the fact that Chris had a Would you have a Super 8
• 26:48
  camera? JAJVC little handheld camcorder
• 26:52
  like. Dude, that was the epitome.
• 26:56
  Like these kids listening today, they're laughing their ass off.
• 26:59
  You can't even imagine that was having like this bad ass, top of
• 27:02
  the line MacBook Pro that I have sitting in front of me, right?
• 27:05
  The fastest, most efficient machine that you can buy.
• 27:07
  It just worked. That was the equivalent of that
• 27:11
  back then. It's like, holy shit, you got a
• 27:12
  camcorder? Dude, you fucking kidding me?
• 27:15
  You have a camcorder we can record ourselves.
• 27:19
  Nobody has phone. Kids.
• 27:20
  No, no. There was this place called
• 27:22
  Service. I don't know if you remember
• 27:23
  this or not. There's a place in Mesa called
• 27:25
  Service Merchandise. Absolutely.
• 27:27
  OK. That's where I got that because
• 27:29
  they had layaway program. She went and I put like $25 down
• 27:33
  then too, right? I put like 25 bucks, dude, 25
• 27:37
  down and then I had to pay. I don't, I don't remember, you
• 27:39
  know. 10 bucks a month for the rest.
• 27:41
  Something like that, right? And then I got a bonus at Mark's
• 27:44
  center and paid it off. But that, that was cool.
• 27:46
  It was layaway. Layaway was cool back in the day
• 27:49
  for someone who who didn't have the funds to just RIP the
• 27:53
  Band-Aid off and buy something that we used to do that shit
• 27:56
  with our kids at Christmas. Man, we.
• 27:57
  Go. That's what my mom and dad used
• 27:59
  to. Everybody's parents did that
• 28:00
  back in the day. You went to all the stores and
• 28:02
  you put this shit away in like June or March or whenever they
• 28:06
  started and they paid like my mom said, 30 bucks a month or
• 28:09
  something until you went and picked it up.
• 28:11
  Yeah, that now. The thing that sucks now is back
• 28:15
  then there was no none of the the toy of the season, right?
• 28:19
  You can there was none of that. It was just, you know, Johnny
• 28:22
  wants a a guitar and you know Sally wants a Barbie doll for.
• 28:27
  You and I, but that did come about for my sister's generation
• 28:30
  because remember the cabbage pastels where the women were
• 28:33
  like ripping their hair out? Oh yeah, they.
• 28:38
  Literally fought each other to get those things.
• 28:41
  Yeah, I remember. I do remember that.
• 28:44
  Yeah, and then people would make like grandma's would make them
• 28:47
  for their grandkids and shit, and the kids would cry because
• 28:51
  it wasn't the real thing. That's not a garbage patch doll.
• 28:53
  It's a homemade piece of shit. That shit happened, man.
• 28:59
  It's funny now, but it was horrific for those poor little
• 29:02
  girls that wanted. That yeah, no, Nikki, Nikki had
• 29:05
  had, she had cow patch dolls and shit and her evil step monster.
• 29:11
  I forget what happened. She like got rid of them somehow
• 29:14
  or some kind of fucked up thing, which was disappointing.
• 29:19
  But yeah, she had. She had some of those too.
• 29:22
  You're right though, man, for us, like from 5:00 to 10:00 when
• 29:25
  we would have remembered like toys, there wasn't really
• 29:28
  anything that people lusted after.
• 29:30
  It was Star Wars action figures and Hot Wheels and whatever you
• 29:37
  were into, you know, most, most boys were into Hot Wheels back
• 29:40
  then. I had tons of them.
• 29:42
  A matchbox cars. I like matchbox cars.
• 29:44
  Yeah, that's it. Matchbox cars were a little bit
• 29:47
  classier. Yeah, that's what I had.
• 29:49
  I had Matchbox. Cars 'cause they were all metal,
• 29:51
  they were all metal I. Forgot they were two different
• 29:53
  things. Yeah, that was the hockey pepper
• 29:56
  cars, right? Fuck you.
• 29:57
  Yeah, Xbox box cars were pieces of shit, right?
• 30:02
  But that's what I had too. And see, with little Man, he's
• 30:06
  gone through his phases. So I have about 50 or 60 monster
• 30:09
  trucks, small ones. We we've got Hot Wheels and
• 30:16
  we've got, he likes Hot Wheels. Like the cool thing now with
• 30:19
  with kids, they create these elaborate, elaborate things to
• 30:23
  use with Hot Wheels. We just have those stupid simple
• 30:25
  tracks, right? They're all figures of shit.
• 30:27
  Plastics that never work. Or the the race, the the radio
• 30:32
  controlled race cars. Remember those and.
• 30:33
  Those were bad tips. Dude.
• 30:35
  They were. You had the Q2.
• 30:37
  My dad and I played that shit for hours, racing each other.
• 30:41
  Oh yeah. Our first set was Carl Carl with
• 30:44
  Cole Yarborough, Cole Yarborough and and Carl Yarborough.
• 30:48
  Yeah, there you go. Carl Yarborough That's a hard
• 30:51
  game to say, but. And I didn't realize what a
• 30:53
  legend he was until like absolutely later in life, right?
• 30:56
  And then Richard Petty, which I knew Richard Petty, but those
• 30:58
  were the two cars we got. So my brother and I would would
• 31:00
  race that shit and. And everybody wanted to be
• 31:02
  Richard Petty because nobody knew.
• 31:04
  I like, I like, I like Carl's car.
• 31:06
  Carl's car. He did red, white, Blue Man.
• 31:08
  His is red, white and blue. Petty's was just red and blue.
• 31:10
  I liked because of the whole patriotism stuff.
• 31:14
  Hey, don't forget the boys and girls.
• 31:15
  This is the Chris and Mike show. We're on Instagram, Facebook and
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• 31:23
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• 31:26
  and dialed in on what's going on.
• 31:28
  Who's who's on The Who, who, who is it tomorrow?
• 31:31
  Is it? Is it Jeremy Cross?
• 31:33
  I don't know, you drastically interrupted my fucking.
• 31:36
  Oh, slot car story. I'm sorry, I was just, I I saw,
• 31:40
  I saw a point to to break there. No, you got to, you got to
• 31:44
  follow through with those. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:46
  So. So, yeah, go ahead with your
• 31:47
  slot car story. Mark.
• 31:48
  Sorry, I apologize. I'm just fucking with you.
• 31:51
  I know, I know. You know, every now and then you
• 31:52
  got to put me in check, man. I'm like fucking come on, don't
• 31:54
  relax. No, I was going to ask if you
• 31:56
  ever had a train set. No, never had train set.
• 32:00
  So that's the first thing I no, that's the first thing I wanted.
• 32:03
  But Santa had a fucking tragic accident on an icy winter night,
• 32:07
  trying to bring it in the house in that old steel fell on the
• 32:12
  steps and broke my fucking train set and broke his heart.
• 32:16
  And I didn't know it as a kid. But then there's a letter from
• 32:20
  Santa. Santa had an accident, broke
• 32:21
  your train. Oh.
• 32:22
  Really. So that's how we ended up
• 32:24
  getting into slot cars later on was like, that was the next
• 32:28
  evolution. You know, I think that came
• 32:30
  about right about the time that I couldn't decide what I wanted
• 32:34
  or maybe the slot cars got popular after the train set got
• 32:38
  broken. I ended up with a slot car
• 32:40
  track. That was badass.
• 32:41
  So he set it up on a nice piece of plywood and 'cause I think he
• 32:46
  wanted to play with it just as much as I did.
• 32:48
  So. Oh, right on.
• 32:50
  I don't know if I ever. I don't know if I ever ended up
• 32:53
  having a real train set or not. I don't think so.
• 32:56
  Well, I know there's, I know where they keep a train that we
• 32:58
  could just go take. Like a real train.
• 33:02
  Oh yeah, just, you know, hobby and keys are in the ignition and
• 33:04
  just have at it, you know? Well, we're going to have to buy
• 33:08
  a digital recorder because that show will have to go on the
• 33:10
  road. This is episode 215 as we hijack
• 33:15
  a train. Hijacking the train.
• 33:20
  Hijacking the train. So what were you?
• 33:22
  Asking me who's on, who's coming up.
• 33:24
  Yeah. So I.
• 33:25
  Got it. I, I pulled it up.
• 33:26
  It's Jimmy Cross. Yes.
• 33:28
  So I'll, I'll drop a little snippet.
• 33:30
  Actually, we could drop a little snippet after today's show and
• 33:33
  make that a a thing and we can what we need.
• 33:37
  This is a little behind the scenes conversation for you boys
• 33:39
  and girls on Chris and Mike Show.
• 33:40
  Yes, this is the way a podcast is put together, ladies and
• 33:42
  gentlemen. We need to have like on my
• 33:45
  YouTube channel when you go to my YouTube channel for.
• 33:47
  My our. YouTube channel no no my my real
• 33:49
  estate. No, no, no, no.
• 33:51
  No, no, no, no. I get it.
• 33:53
  I didn't even have a good chance, all right.
• 33:55
  You tried though. That was cool.
• 33:57
  And the reason why he said that is because whenever he
• 33:58
  references something, I would say it's ours.
• 34:00
  It's ours. It's ours because of like you,
• 34:02
  your your YouTube channel. Well, my YouTube channel is
• 34:04
  Chris Dunham, the real estate guy at Chris Dunham, just at
• 34:07
  Chris Dunham. So when you go to that one, OK,
• 34:09
  there's a video that automatically pops up.
• 34:11
  It's the trailer. We need a trailer.
• 34:14
  And it's hard for us to have a trailer because you're there and
• 34:16
  I'm here. But I think after today's show
• 34:19
  or even during the show, we make our own little trailer and then
• 34:23
  we make it a short and then I can put it up on the on the main
• 34:26
  page. So when people come to the web,
• 34:28
  the the YouTube channel, right away they're going to see
• 34:31
  something automatically play. That's a brilliant idea.
• 34:34
  I like. Thank you.
• 34:36
  Brilliant. Brilliant.
• 34:38
  Chris Dunham for the win. Chris Dunham here, Mike
• 34:41
  Michael's there, and Mike Michael's there.
• 34:44
  So I went to lunch today with a dude named Charlie.
• 34:46
  I'm in the I'm in the I'm in the Rotary Club in in Mesa, which is
• 34:49
  not about cars. It's about volunteerism and
• 34:52
  giving back what was. His last name?
• 34:53
  Brown. Jude absolutely.
• 34:55
  His last name is Brown and I brought up the fact that when I
• 34:58
  was a kid I grew up with neighbors, that their kids names
• 35:00
  were Buster and Charlie Brown. Is that a true story?
• 35:04
  Yeah, it's a true fucking story because his name is Charlie
• 35:06
  Brown, right? You have to quantify these
• 35:09
  names, ladies and gentlemen, when you're talking to a
• 35:11
  musician. Right.
• 35:12
  So my, my whole concept with joining the Rotary Club is I'm
• 35:16
  going to go to lunch with every single member.
• 35:18
  There's like 80 of us because how do you learn 80?
• 35:21
  Members of your Rotary Club. About that, yeah, we're.
• 35:24
  One of them. There's only 10 in our town.
• 35:26
  OK, maybe 8, I don't know. Small.
• 35:30
  Yeah, but the best way to learn about somebody is take them to
• 35:32
  lunch because you can't. At Rotary meetings, you got 15
• 35:35
  minutes to kind of come in, get your lunch, sit down and then
• 35:38
  you you can change where you sit every day.
• 35:39
  But on a whole, it's hard to get to know everybody.
• 35:42
  So I'm like, I'm going to take everybody to lunch.
• 35:44
  It's going to take me a while, right?
• 35:45
  Once a week. It's take me probably almost two
• 35:47
  years do. This got nothing but time.
• 35:48
  That's what I always say. Right.
• 35:49
  So Charlie, he, he is owns a property management business and
• 35:53
  he uses and it's doors, it's houses.
• 35:55
  Well, way back 40 years ago when he first started this, he was
• 35:59
  actually kind of thrown into managing A60 door complex,
• 36:02
  apartment complex near ASU. OK, this is an interesting
• 36:06
  story, which is why I'm going to share it.
• 36:07
  So he leaves that about eight months into it.
• 36:10
  Like this is way too chaotic. And then the people call him up.
• 36:12
  Hey, you know, we're dumping this thing.
• 36:13
  We're getting out. You want him?
• 36:14
  He's like, yeah, OK, he thought about it.
• 36:16
  Why not? I'll take it.
• 36:19
  So they folded that apartment complex.
• 36:21
  And then so he started out with, you know, maybe 5-5 doors.
• 36:24
  And the door means a house at at his, at his peak, 600 doors
• 36:30
  before COVID hit, right, 600 doors.
• 36:33
  One of the adventures he had was a realtor connected with an
• 36:37
  investment company California. They bought 400 houses in two
• 36:41
  years. So anybody in California
• 36:44
  listening to this that they need a realtor to help them buy 400
• 36:48
  house in two years? I'm a guy 100%. 400 houses in
• 36:52
  two years, man. Crazy, insanity.
• 36:55
  Insanity. So with that being said, I was
• 36:59
  like, so I mean, you know, engaging conversation further
• 37:03
  down the path of the conversation with him.
• 37:04
  He's been married 50 years. He's got 8 kids, he's got 21
• 37:07
  grandkids. All his, he's the, the, the boys
• 37:12
  in his, the boys that he raised are all individually successful,
• 37:16
  which is he couldn't take credit for.
• 37:18
  I was like, what? You raised him, Charlie.
• 37:19
  Damn right he did. And it was, it's kind of cool
• 37:23
  happenstance luck type thing. Like one of his sons had a
• 37:28
  construction background. This guy's like, hey, you want
• 37:29
  to help me with this, this store, with these storage
• 37:31
  solution, with these storage properties.
• 37:33
  And he's like, sure, why not? At the end of the day, he made
• 37:36
  10 million from that, why the other guy made 60?
• 37:38
  But he made $10 million, right? Because he just happenstance
• 37:42
  lucky bright place, right time and and and stories go on.
• 37:47
  And I'm with this guy. He's he's, he, went on.
• 37:49
  AI love people like that. Man, yeah, he went on a bicycle
• 37:52
  tour in Europe for eight days where he, he and a couple of his
• 37:56
  friends and they were riding their bikes and basically towing
• 37:58
  what they slept in, right. They've been cruising on cruise
• 38:02
  ships off and on for 20 years. They've taken their family.
• 38:05
  I mean, just they just kept spewing out because I just when
• 38:08
  I'm sitting with lunch somebody, I don't know, kind of like when
• 38:11
  I was when we had Nate on the show, I'm just plugging away.
• 38:14
  I'm just asking questions. I'm learning, I'm taking notes.
• 38:16
  Sure, you know, so I find out legit, I don't.
• 38:21
  You were here in the time 1998 Jane Hull was running for
• 38:25
  governor, right? He opposed Jane Hull.
• 38:30
  Really. Yeah, he only had $8000 in
• 38:32
  budget. He got 25,000 votes.
• 38:35
  He lost. He knew he was going to lose,
• 38:37
  but he wanted to do it just to see if he could do it.
• 38:40
  And that's cool, they got 25,000.
• 38:41
  Dollars, right? Just like I drove her all
• 38:43
  around. The city, I think if you got the
• 38:44
  money, 8 grand is of that's a drop in the bucket to just to
• 38:48
  say, hey yeah, I got 25,000 votes for governor.
• 38:51
  Right. That's what he said.
• 38:52
  He's like, I should have won if it was.
• 38:53
  If a sheer dollar per vote, I won.
• 38:56
  Right on. So yeah, Charlie, really cool.
• 38:59
  Dude, that's awesome. Yeah, he's a really cool guy.
• 39:02
  We're going to have Mark on Mark.
• 39:03
  Mark from the Rotary Club. He's the CEO for United Way,
• 39:07
  former Baptist minister, and he actually is one of the only
• 39:13
  people in the world that can say he actually got inside Melissa
• 39:15
  Etheridge. Another true story.
• 39:19
  Yeah, because he dated Melissa Etheridge before Melissa
• 39:22
  Etheridge. Went to the other team.
• 39:24
  Went to the other team. Became a lesbian.
• 39:27
  You can say it. We're in. 20 Well, no, I just I
• 39:29
  like it's a Seinfeld thing you know you go to the other team do
• 39:31
  you have a shortstop on your team Yeah, I do I have a
• 39:33
  shortstop on my team I'm a shortstop I'm not going up you
• 39:35
  know I mean so that's. That's and we very rarely get
• 39:38
  get them back. Right.
• 39:41
  And she never went back to playing for the.
• 39:43
  Other side, I love when Elaine describes how we have the
• 39:47
  equipment right. How can I compete when you have
• 39:50
  the equipment 24 hours a day? I only have the access to the
• 39:54
  equipment at best what, 2-3 hours a week?
• 39:59
  Right, says the woman with a whole entire closet full of
• 40:01
  today's sponge. OK, she had more than just two
• 40:04
  or three hours a day. Episode, right?
• 40:05
  That was a great episode. Holy shit I love talking
• 40:08
  Seinfeld too. Some of some of the stuff that
• 40:10
  that they got away with would never fly today.
• 40:13
  No, just like what the office would never fly today.
• 40:16
  Well, the Puerto Rican Day, I think you can watch it on
• 40:19
  Netflix now, but that was pulled from regular TV forever, that
• 40:22
  Puerto Rican Day parade episode. Oh, I didn't know that.
• 40:25
  What episode's that? See, very, very few people
• 40:28
  remember it because it only aired live, and then it might
• 40:33
  have aired in reruns for a short time, but then, you know,
• 40:37
  obviously the Puerto Rican community got mad.
• 40:40
  Season 9 Episode 20. So I'm gonna have to oh, oh, oh,
• 40:45
  that was where those, those, those guys those those like very
• 40:50
  you talking to me? You must be talking to me 'cause
• 40:52
  there's nobody else here. No, not those guys.
• 40:55
  No, that's the soup, gay guys. That's actually during the Soup
• 40:58
  Nazi. I think they show up the first
• 40:59
  time 'cause remember Kramer's supposed to guard the armoire.
• 41:02
  Yes, yes. And they just take it.
• 41:04
  From him. Oh, yeah.
• 41:07
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when he does what?
• 41:09
  And then they're in the AIDS Walk episode.
• 41:11
  Oh, OK. Yep, you're right.
• 41:13
  Why you not wear the ribbon? Yeah.
• 41:16
  You not want to wear the ribbon. Hey, he doesn't want to wear the
• 41:20
  ribbon. What what what?
• 41:22
  Why don't you want to ribbon? I'm going to kick crash, man.
• 41:25
  You not know political refugee from Cuba.
• 41:27
  This is America, man. You wear the ribbon.
• 41:30
  Okay, so it's season 9 episode 20, boys and girls season 9
• 41:34
  episode 20 because I'm going to watch that tonight and I'm.
• 41:36
  Going to do yourself a favor and watch it, yes?
• 41:38
  Get back to me. It's the Puerto Rico.
• 41:39
  Tell me how offended. You were so this is what it says
• 41:42
  Crane. This is this is the this is the
• 41:44
  bio to it or the oh shit, shit that fucking came on that the
• 41:49
  whole episode just came on on YouTube, but I didn't do that.
• 41:53
  So OK, the YouTube version of this 208,000 views.
• 41:59
  So the premise is well, that's not the premise of it.
• 42:01
  Come on. What?
• 42:03
  I just saw the premise of it somewhere.
• 42:04
  I was going to read the premise, man.
• 42:06
  Damn it, Jim. Damn it.
• 42:07
  Jim Kramer. Tamer Kramer takes extremes
• 42:09
  measures to use the bathroom to Puerto Rican Day.
• 42:12
  That's all it says. Oh, that's where you can't find
• 42:15
  a bathroom. Oh, I remember that one.
• 42:17
  Then why do they call it Puerto Rican Day though?
• 42:20
  Because of that, that's the parade that's going on if I.
• 42:22
  Remember, right, OK and Day Parade is this when he has that
• 42:26
  kidney stone, he can't pass it? I'm pretty sure that's it.
• 42:29
  OK, OK, that is a funny episode. I, I, I, you can tell me if
• 42:34
  you've heard this not too. I've heard that Kramer has never
• 42:38
  watched himself like Michael Richards the actor.
• 42:42
  I believe it because he's kind of an eccentric guy, but I I've
• 42:46
  never heard that, but I'm sure, yeah, I just heard it very well
• 42:49
  may be true. The only reason I heard it
• 42:50
  recently is is there's all that hub bubble back with you thumbed
• 42:53
  up that with that's Jerry, Jerry trying to get up right.
• 42:58
  Jerry's trying to get him back in the mix of things, you know,
• 43:00
  because of all the chaos that, you know, when he dropped the
• 43:02
  the N word at the comedy show, Yes, which you know.
• 43:07
  Rogan's talked about that at nauseam.
• 43:09
  And it's. It's probably taken out of
• 43:10
  context, but. A little bit.
• 43:12
  You know. He defends him a little bit, but
• 43:16
  then you know he always is careful to say you have to own
• 43:19
  your actions, right. Absolutely, Absolutely.
• 43:22
  You know, a lot of us go out every night and don't do shit
• 43:26
  like that and we know act like adults and.
• 43:30
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  Body. I don't make them good.
• 43:47
  I don't remember. You're a hell of a salesman,
• 43:51
  Dunham. We're trying to sell some shit
• 43:54
  here. They were just sitting next to.
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  They're delicious. I'm like, Oh yeah, I think it
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  has to do with gut health, OK, because anything I do, anything
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  I do is is has a as a nutritional supplement, kind of
• 44:06
  like the hemp works, my daily choice.
• 44:07
  Hemp works. Yeah, so, Rob, but now I got,
• 44:15
  now I got gummy in my mouth. Sorry.
• 44:17
  Remind me to tell you a good gummy story while we're not on
• 44:21
  the air. OK, I'll tell that story on the
• 44:28
  air later, but it's a good one. Right on, let's taste you.
• 44:36
  I'm trying. I'm gummy eating on a show so
• 44:42
  I'm so unprofessional. Nobody accused us being
• 44:47
  professional. We're we're, this is supposed to
• 44:49
  be an organic conversation. That's why people love us,
• 44:51
  buddy. This will be its own short Chris
• 44:55
  eating a gummy. You'll get like 14,000 views
• 44:59
  because I'll, I'll do a bunch of hashtags relate to gummies and
• 45:02
  then I'll just go nuts. I'll just go nuts.
• 45:05
  So because we're real and raw, this is what we're going to do
• 45:10
  here. We're going to we're going to
• 45:18
  we're just shoot our thing that we need, OK, because we're going
• 45:22
  to shoot it. So we're going to plan it out.
• 45:25
  So basically we want we want people come to our YouTube page.
• 45:27
  We want to be like, hey, this is Chris and Mike Show.
• 45:29
  I'm Chris and then you might say I'm Mike.
• 45:32
  And hey, we're here to talk about anything that's relevant
• 45:34
  to us and keeping it real raw and.
• 45:37
  Relevant. Join us here weekly Tuesdays and
• 45:40
  Fridays, and new shows drop on Wednesdays and Sundays.
• 45:44
  So I'll say join us here weekly on Tuesdays and Fridays, and
• 45:46
  then you say news shows drops on on Wednesdays and Sundays.
• 45:50
  All right, all. Right, and then and I'll say you
• 45:53
  can find us on Instagram and you say and Facebook and I'll say
• 45:56
  and YouTube and you say subscribe on all platforms.
• 45:59
  And I say, Oh yes, give us a follow.
• 46:01
  It's the Chris and Mike show soon to come, the Chris and
• 46:03
  mikeshow.com. Oh, then maybe, maybe add
• 46:06
  Spotify, Apple podcasts on all those platforms you know we're
• 46:09
  on because I don't know all those things wrong.
• 46:11
  OK, so we're going to wait till the clock we're.
• 46:14
  Done. Yeah, Yeah.
• 46:14
  Yeah, we're going to wait till the clock gets to 47, so then we
• 46:17
  can keep them. No.
• 46:18
  I'm saying we'll wait till after we're done and we'll make it a
• 46:20
  separate thing because I don't want to cut it out of here.
• 46:23
  Oh. I gotcha.
• 46:25
  Don't want to cut what out of here.
• 46:26
  Oh, we're going to do this when we're done.
• 46:29
  Yeah, I understand. OK, so that.
• 46:31
  Then it'll be its own thing that we can put anywhere we want.
• 46:34
  Then it will be its own thing. See how smart Mike is?
• 46:38
  I'm just. No, I'm the one that asked to
• 46:40
  edit it so I'm I'm thinking it's not smart, it's just experience.
• 46:45
  Gotcha. So I get I get this is funny.
• 46:48
  So I get these, I get these freaking spam.
• 46:51
  Like when real estate market is real estate market, right?
• 46:55
  There's so many people. Oh the market sucks.
• 46:57
  It doesn't suck. You all are ignorant so shut up.
• 47:00
  Listen to a professional because it doesn't.
• 47:01
  It's not bad. We only have 17,000 houses
• 47:04
  houses for sale in all of Maricopa and Pannell County.
• 47:08
  17,000 That's it, That's it. That's it.
• 47:11
  So thank you. See because if you Maricopa.
• 47:14
  County is the largest county in the United States for those of
• 47:16
  you that don't know. Yeah, Maricopa and Pinell
• 47:18
  County, I said. So both OK, but there's this
• 47:21
  thing. But just alone, Maricopa is the
• 47:22
  largest square mileage county in the United States, right?
• 47:26
  So there's this thing going around that people think, oh,
• 47:28
  our supplies at wearing our demand.
• 47:29
  It's not true, man. It's it's, it's, it's irritating
• 47:32
  and I've done, I've actually done a video based on this.
• 47:35
  I'm going to do it right now just because we're sitting well.
• 47:37
  Actually, right here in our town, my mom's been saying for a
• 47:40
  month there's no houses for sale here either.
• 47:43
  Well, see there, there are houses for sale, but it's what
• 47:47
  what they're trying to spend, the bullshit they're trying to
• 47:49
  spend. No, I mean like the inventory
• 47:50
  super. It's not like there's not one
• 47:52
  house for sale, but normally you see like a house on every other
• 47:56
  street that's got a for sale sign, right?
• 47:58
  Right. You might see 5 for sale signs
• 48:00
  in the whole town now. Gotcha.
• 48:02
  OK Wow, so Maricopa County alone.
• 48:06
  OK, right now this is live information, boys and girls.
• 48:09
  There's 13,204 Properties for Sale.
• 48:13
  OK, and that's houses, I'm sorry, not properties, houses,
• 48:16
  houses, single family homes. There's 13,204 if I take the
• 48:20
  homes. Based on the fact that there's
• 48:22
  millions of people that live. Right.
• 48:26
  So taking away single family home, minimum 3 bed, 2 bath,
• 48:30
  which means it opens it up to everything, and I mean
• 48:32
  everything manufactured mobile condo, townhouse, patio home and
• 48:37
  homes. OK, it's 20,311.
• 48:40
  So 20,311. OK.
• 48:42
  So people are freaking out because they say our inventory
• 48:45
  outweighs our our supply outweighs our demand.
• 48:48
  Not true. Because again, going back to
• 48:51
  Phoenix, there's only 13. I mean Maricopa County, there's
• 48:53
  only 13,203 houses for sale in Maricopa County.
• 48:57
  That's crazy. That is a decline in inventory
• 49:01
  since January 2025. This year we started with about
• 49:04
  six months inventory in January and we've consistently gone down
• 49:07
  to an hour about 3.6 months, a three, yeah, three month, 3.63
• 49:12
  weeks, whatever it says 3.61 of of inventory.
• 49:16
  But if you take, if you break that down to just Maricopa
• 49:20
  County, that's not a lot. That's not a lot, which is which
• 49:24
  is what I'm trying to convey to people.
• 49:26
  This is not a crashing market. There's nothing that's it's not
• 49:31
  it's a strong market. We have we have you know, houses
• 49:35
  available, not like like, you know, lots and lots, but we
• 49:38
  still do so Phoenix, OK, just drop it down to Phoenix.
• 49:42
  There's 2601 houses for sale in Phoenix that are at least three
• 49:45
  bedroom, 2 bath. Wow.
• 49:47
  Now here's where it gets. Here where it gets.
• 49:49
  Still not a lot. No so we do 4 bedrooms, 4
• 49:54
  bedrooms, 2 baths in Phoenix it drops it to 14142.
• 49:57
  Wow. OK, now watch this shit.
• 50:00
  I'm going to put A2 car garage on that two car garage to park
• 50:03
  your stuff 11159. OK, we're going to say at least
• 50:08
  1400 square feet because that's a good range of square footage.
• 50:12
  11154 we're going to say what do you want to say?
• 50:17
  What else? What do you want to say?
• 50:18
  What else do you want to put in there?
• 50:19
  Let's see, we got oh, we'll make it single family.
• 50:22
  It's it's single family. We'll make it detached.
• 50:24
  So there's do not attach anybody that drops it down to 1144
• 50:29
  interior levels. We're going to say one level
• 50:31
  home, single levels, single level, ranch style.
• 50:33
  What's the second? 657 How?
• 50:37
  About how about if you want a pool?
• 50:39
  A pool, A pool, A swimming pool Swimming pool Where's my pool
• 50:42
  features most. People want a.
• 50:43
  Pool. I want a pool.
• 50:45
  You ready for this one? It's thinking, it's spinning.
• 50:48
  It's saying what am I doing? What am I doing?
• 50:50
  Looking for Mike for a pool for when the podcast takes off.
• 50:54
  Come on, Pool. He wants a pool.
• 50:56
  It's still thinking. It's like it's going through the
• 50:58
  database. Oh, there it is.
• 51:01
  I just got hit private. OK, gotcha.
• 51:02
  SO50, I'm sorry, 339 houses with a pool in all of Phoenix.
• 51:07
  OK so four bedroom, 2 bathrooms, single 5 minute hatch with A2
• 51:12
  car garage, single level at least 1400 square feet.
• 51:15
  We have 339 houses for sale in all of Phoenix, AZ.
• 51:18
  That puts it in perspective. Now how bad does your supply
• 51:23
  outweigh your demand exactly? Because most people raising a
• 51:26
  family like you did with two kids, two people want 4.
• 51:30
  Bedrooms, right? Right.
• 51:32
  They want the two car garage. They may or may not want a pool.
• 51:35
  So they may have 1000 homes to choose from where the people
• 51:38
  that want a pool, who are moving from where I live out there that
• 51:41
  want to experience that, now they're down to 300.
• 51:44
  That's not a lot. No, get this shit.
• 51:46
  You ready for this? Are you sitting down?
• 51:48
  Are you sitting down? I am.
• 51:49
  It looks like I'm standing up, but I'm really sitting down.
• 51:52
  You're sitting down South Glendale, where Kevin lived,
• 51:54
  where you lived, where the band got his.
• 51:56
  You know, where we rehearsed quite a bit.
• 52:00
  Same criteria. Single family, detached, 4
• 52:03
  bedroom, 2 bathroom, 2 car garage.
• 52:05
  Single level, 1400 square feet minimum with the swimming pool.
• 52:08
  Just guess. In Glendale, how many houses for
• 52:10
  sale? Just guess.
• 52:12
  All of Glendale. Let's see, I'm going with 57.
• 52:20
  Not not bad 82. Wow, I should have went with 100
• 52:23
  out. Of a dude.
• 52:24
  But that's good though, so let's do Mesa, AZ, shall we?
• 52:26
  Because Mesa also. Lived there, I was the homeowner
• 52:29
  there. Mesa, AZ is the largest East
• 52:31
  Valley community in in the East Valley 154 all criteria remains
• 52:37
  the same. Wow.
• 52:39
  So we're going to do Chandler. Chandler.
• 52:42
  Chandler, AZ. Not Chandler Bing.
• 52:44
  One No 101, you gotta have that 1100 one 101.
• 52:50
  That one person's like my mouth. Yeah, yeah.
• 52:52
  Gilbert, AZ. Gilbert AZ 117.
• 52:58
  So that's what I'm saying. People think that, oh, the
• 53:00
  market's crashing, there's too much, blah, blah, blah.
• 53:03
  It's because ignorance is bliss, man.
• 53:04
  You don't. You don't.
• 53:05
  You don't. You don't look at the raw, real
• 53:08
  results. OK.
• 53:10
  Apache Junction, OK Apache Junction has 04 bedroom 2 bath
• 53:16
  homes with 1400 square feet, two car garage and a swimming pool.
• 53:19
  None. How big is Apache Junction?
• 53:22
  I don't know, but it's just a point.
• 53:23
  There's none. None.
• 53:26
  That's where the band got its start.
• 53:27
  We practiced out there. Yeah, so Gold Canyon, Gold
• 53:30
  Canyon 0 Nothing, nada. Let.
• 53:33
  Me tell you dude, that was a long drive from fucking Metro
• 53:36
  Center to Apache Junction for band practice every.
• 53:39
  I don't doubt that. Fountain Hills.
• 53:41
  OK, Fountain Hills, 36, 36 homes in Fountain Hills.
• 53:46
  That's the thing that irritates me when when people talk about
• 53:49
  this shit like you're not, you're not looking at it the way
• 53:52
  you should look at it. You're looking at the, the, the
• 53:54
  total amount of inventory by just doing a blanket search
• 53:58
  that's active. But you can't because our MLS
• 54:01
  system now picks up Sedona and Prescott and Prescott Valley and
• 54:04
  Payson and Sholo and all those northern cities that picks up
• 54:07
  some southern border towns as well, like Nogales and Kingman.
• 54:10
  There's there's it's such a massive draw that our MLS pulls
• 54:15
  from. So any anybody that that doesn't
• 54:19
  know what the hell they're doing, they're going to do this
• 54:21
  and I'll start it back over. Just a quick search blanket.
• 54:24
  Just nothing checked in my box, but active properties, OK.
• 54:27
  And again, this picking up all kinds of stuff 26,385 with
• 54:33
  nothing written, with nothing tagged down, nothing taken away.
• 54:36
  So that would that could easily lead somebody to falsely think
• 54:41
  that, yeah, you do have way too much inventory.
• 54:43
  Right. So, but if you go to Tempe
• 54:45
  without anything but putting Tempe down 409 total Properties
• 54:50
  for Sale. Now if you take that to single
• 54:53
  family homes, that drops it to 230 almost in half.
• 54:56
  And Tempe is a big town, too. Tempe's a big town as far as as
• 55:01
  far as multi density high. Lots of condos complexes and and
• 55:06
  then we're not Hawking apartments and shit either.
• 55:08
  We're talking the livable real estate stuff.
• 55:10
  But single family detached homes.
• 55:12
  There's 225. We punched in three bedrooms, 2
• 55:15
  baths. That takes us down to 205 now if
• 55:20
  we punch in 4 bedrooms, 114. So we started with 409
• 55:27
  Properties for Sale in Tempe. Narrowed all the way down,
• 55:30
  there's 114 single family homes. 4 bedrooms. 4 bedrooms.
• 55:34
  Normal family would Who's going to have two or three kids?
• 55:37
  Yep, absolutely. And then do they add the 1400
• 55:41
  square foot single level? You're talking 73 houses.
• 55:43
  It goes back to everything that I say in life, Chris Donovan.
• 55:46
  You have to put things in perspective.
• 55:48
  You have to, right? And you?
• 55:50
  Can't just make a blanket statement.
• 55:52
  You can if you're being funny, but if we're trying to be
• 55:55
  truthful and honest and you know, in your case you have to
• 55:59
  be because that's your livelihood.
• 56:00
  So when people say shit like that, it gives a false sense of
• 56:06
  Oh well, it's not the time to buy and then.
• 56:09
  And that's my frustration because I guess, yeah, because.
• 56:13
  Because here's the thing. Perspective is everything.
• 56:16
  Because the idiots in the media and even some Realtors, because
• 56:19
  I've, I've, I've seen some Realtors spinning this stuff and
• 56:22
  I've commented on them, I've ripped them apart because
• 56:24
  they're not, they're doing a disservice to the industry and
• 56:28
  they're creating. That's a great way to put it.
• 56:30
  They're they're creating the whole fire, sculling and the
• 56:33
  fire, the no, the sky is falling mentality.
• 56:35
  It's not falling. It's just not when I started
• 56:39
  this in this business 25 years ago the average number of
• 56:42
  Properties for Sale and again back then it was just Marico
• 56:45
  Pannell County. They weren't pulling all the
• 56:46
  outskirts was 33,000 at any given time for my first 2 and 2
• 56:50
  1/2 years in real estate so I could take.
• 56:52
  And what you knew was that to put it in perspective.
• 56:54
  For 999999 because and you know that because when we went looked
• 56:58
  at houses for you, we we went back to houses.
• 57:00
  We could go look at a house, we could go look at 5 houses on a
• 57:03
  Saturday, go back and look at 5 different houses the following
• 57:06
  Saturday and then the following week go look at 6-7 more.
• 57:09
  And then we figured out which one we like.
• 57:10
  Oh, yeah, I think you literally told us, don't worry, We're not
• 57:13
  going to run out of houses to look at.
• 57:14
  Like, don't panic. You know, you don't have to buy
• 57:16
  the first thing that you see. We can do this for a day, a
• 57:19
  week, a month, whatever you guys want to do.
• 57:22
  So our market right now is, is to me, it's a buyer's market
• 57:25
  because prime example, first time buyers couple weeks ago we
• 57:29
  went out like 12 houses. These really cool couple.
• 57:32
  They never bought a house before.
• 57:33
  He works for, for progressive. He's like an acclaimed gesture,
• 57:37
  like the big rigs and stuff, really cool people.
• 57:40
  She sent me a spreadsheet, which I thought was fantastic of all
• 57:42
  the once in these excel spreadsheet and it was legit
• 57:45
  like, and it and she was like, Oh, you know, thank you, thank
• 57:48
  you, thank you. Sorry, I'm like, don't be sorry.
• 57:49
  This, this helps me help you, right.
• 57:52
  The more information you can tell me, 'cause I listen, the
• 57:56
  better results I'm going to provide for you because I can
• 57:59
  check all your boxes. There's certain things I
• 58:00
  couldn't search for. Like I have somebody today that
• 58:03
  wanted me to search and one of her criteria was a back backyard
• 58:06
  kitchen. I'm like, there's no way for me
• 58:07
  to search for that. I said if it just happens, the
• 58:10
  listing has a backyard kitchen, you know, an outdoor kitchen
• 58:12
  Outback. Kind of like we had or they
• 58:14
  wanted something. More like just, I don't know
• 58:16
  because I didn't go down the rabbit hole with her.
• 58:19
  We had the barbecue and the wet bar and the refrigerator and
• 58:22
  that was a nice setup. That to me is an outdoor
• 58:25
  kitchen. Yeah, I agree with you.
• 58:26
  It was bad ass. I loved.
• 58:27
  It so once I once I did this person's search and she wanted
• 58:32
  Phoenix the until she told me what city she wanted and it was,
• 58:37
  it was 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, 3 car garage, a flat yard, you
• 58:43
  know, as opposed to, you know, hilly or whatever swimming,
• 58:46
  swimming pool modern updated. And the price range was, was was
• 58:51
  900 to 1.2. So I just left the the small
• 58:54
  number open and did 1.2. The initial search without
• 58:57
  telling me what city she wanted was 1500 when she told me
• 59:00
  Phoenix there was like 52. Wow, right.
• 59:05
  But that's, that's my, that's what I'm saying though.
• 59:07
  People think, oh, 'cause there's, you know, when you do
• 59:09
  the blanket search, there's 26,000 Properties for Sale, all
• 59:12
  the supplies outweighing demand. Shut the front door.
• 59:15
  You don't. Care so for the people that are
• 59:17
  listening that are following along, let's let's take the
• 59:19
  rabbit hole one step deeper and put it really into perspective.
• 59:24
  OK, so now this lady has what 52 properties to choose from?
• 59:27
  How many does she really have to choose from?
• 59:29
  Because she's not going to like probably 60 to 80% of what she
• 59:34
  looks at right? Nope Nope Nope.
• 59:37
  So now she's down to maybe 1015 at best.
• 59:42
  Right, so when I went in and I looked at them all knowing what
• 59:44
  she wants, right? So I cycled through all 52
• 59:47
  houses and tried to find the ones because some were, you know
• 59:50
  small backyard because she wants room for activities.
• 59:53
  So I went through and I found 15 out of 52 and I sent them to her
• 59:56
  which we which we were having the conversation for show.
• 59:59
  Was my guess. 10 to 15 exactly. So fucking genius.
• 1:00:03
  You are a genius. So now I'm just waiting for her
• 1:00:05
  to cycle through those 15 and tell me which one she likes.
• 1:00:08
  So then I can take, OK, she likes these five.
• 1:00:11
  So I look at those five in more detail and kind of start going
• 1:00:15
  through pictures and reading the description, understanding, OK,
• 1:00:17
  this is a square footage. All these have this kind of
• 1:00:20
  square foot. OK, note make that so update the
• 1:00:22
  square footage search. And you know, she doesn't like
• 1:00:24
  the two-story. She likes all those little
• 1:00:26
  nuances that she'll do once she sends me back the one she likes.
• 1:00:30
  I research what she tells me she likes.
• 1:00:32
  That's why I totally understand your frustration, right?
• 1:00:35
  Because we just whittled everything down, just like I've
• 1:00:40
  described 100 times on this podcast.
• 1:00:42
  I like to break things down to their nub, right?
• 1:00:46
  How does this fucking thing work?
• 1:00:49
  That's what everybody has to do with every subject in their
• 1:00:52
  life. That's why conversations with
• 1:00:55
  people who are not deep thinkers, I don't want to call
• 1:00:57
  them idiots or morons. They're happy with their life.
• 1:01:00
  I stopped doing that, right? Right.
• 1:01:02
  So the reason that conversations with people who aren't deep
• 1:01:06
  thinkers are exhausting is what you just described, because
• 1:01:09
  people make a blanket statement the supply of houses and
• 1:01:13
  inventory, or yeah, the supply of houses in Arizona far
• 1:01:17
  outweighs the inventory that no, no, we're never going to have
• 1:01:22
  enough houses for all buyers that we have.
• 1:01:25
  And see, the other thing that they're forgetting about is, is
• 1:01:28
  they're building this massive microchip plant up by Anthem.
• 1:01:33
  Like this thing's going to be its own little Anthem, it's own
• 1:01:35
  little right? So it's own little world.
• 1:01:37
  There's not enough houses right now just to house those people.
• 1:01:41
  And they're going to build 5 different residential
• 1:01:43
  communities just in that area alone.
• 1:01:46
  So when people say oh, this, this, this that, I'm like, what?
• 1:01:50
  Are you kidding me? That's why when people make
• 1:01:52
  blanket statements like that, it's exhausting for me because
• 1:01:55
  my brain starts working. It's like, do you realize what
• 1:01:57
  you just said? We just made a generalized
• 1:02:00
  statement about a subject to AI know you probably know nothing
• 1:02:03
  about, right? You know, somebody parroted that
• 1:02:07
  headline that you just said from whatever news source that they
• 1:02:11
  saw it from. And then it the snowball effect.
• 1:02:14
  OK, Now the supply far outweighs the demand.
• 1:02:18
  That just becomes the new. I hate that fucking term.
• 1:02:21
  That becomes the new norm, you know?
• 1:02:23
  Yeah, until it doesn't. And that's what frustrates me is
• 1:02:27
  that that you get like, there was a a podcast with a reporter
• 1:02:31
  from New York who is counting on the real estate industry and the
• 1:02:35
  data she was dropping was six months old.
• 1:02:38
  She was so ignorant that when the the interviewer asked her,
• 1:02:42
  well, what does she sell her home for and what Commission did
• 1:02:45
  she pay? She didn't have an answer
• 1:02:46
  because she said she didn't remember.
• 1:02:47
  Fuck you. OK, Everybody knows what
• 1:02:51
  commissions they've paid because guess what?
• 1:02:54
  It's not a settlement statement. It tells you exactly.
• 1:02:56
  Everything's broken down money wise.
• 1:02:58
  The realtor has to be upfront. I've always been upfront, but
• 1:03:01
  now they have to be upfront of how how they're getting paid,
• 1:03:04
  what they're getting paid, right?
• 1:03:06
  And then you know what your house sold for because it's your
• 1:03:08
  house. So when this woman said she had
• 1:03:11
  no idea what her house sold for and what she paid, just flat out
• 1:03:15
  lie bullshit like right and but she was spinning that.
• 1:03:19
  Even I know that's. Bullshit, right?
• 1:03:21
  And all her information was 6-7 months old talking about how
• 1:03:26
  Realtors were going to still be able to tell the other Realtors
• 1:03:28
  that they're, they're offering Cole Brooks by putting
• 1:03:31
  superimposing images of like the three amigos on the TV in the
• 1:03:34
  living room picture and, and putting 3 cookies, 3 smiley
• 1:03:39
  faces on a sign writer, you know, and, and then taking a
• 1:03:41
  picture of the kitchen counter with three cookies on a plate.
• 1:03:44
  Like give me a break just to be honest and be upfront.
• 1:03:48
  And we never would have had this problem.
• 1:03:50
  And by the way, the dude that filed the class action lawsuit
• 1:03:52
  owes a discount brokerage now in the Midwest that he'll sell your
• 1:03:55
  house for $1000. Imagine that.
• 1:03:57
  Really. Yeah.
• 1:03:59
  Imagine that. It's stupid, man.
• 1:04:01
  It's just so stupid. Nobody, nobody.
• 1:04:04
  You go to a doctor, you going to negotiate the fee to see the
• 1:04:07
  doctor. I think you should be able to,
• 1:04:09
  but no, I agree in the in the current state, no, you cannot do
• 1:04:12
  that right. Right, You're going to go, you
• 1:04:15
  know, a plumber comes to your house and has replaced your
• 1:04:16
  water heater because it blew up. Are you going to be able to
• 1:04:18
  negotiate the parcel limit? You're fucking with that guy.
• 1:04:21
  No, but those. Days are never changing because
• 1:04:23
  who wants to change shitty toilets, right?
• 1:04:25
  But everybody thinks that what I do for a living and those that
• 1:04:30
  do it as well, that everything's negotiable.
• 1:04:31
  Like, I don't get a paycheck, Mike gets a paycheck, I don't
• 1:04:35
  get a paycheck. I get paid to negotiate.
• 1:04:39
  So I don't get paid to negotiate until I have you under contract.
• 1:04:42
  And I've negotiated those terms and conditions.
• 1:04:43
  And then guess what? I still don't get a paycheck
• 1:04:47
  because unless it closes, all my work was for naughty.
• 1:04:51
  People forget that. People forget those.
• 1:04:54
  Suck. Though, right?
• 1:04:57
  So yeah, that's it. I'm off my soapbox.
• 1:04:58
  Sorry, you don't. Have to be sorry.
• 1:05:01
  Squirrel moment. Squirrel.
• 1:05:03
  That's also part of this show, brother.
• 1:05:05
  This is your life and my life. And it sounds like we're going
• 1:05:08
  to get fewer and fewer moments to just talk to each other
• 1:05:10
  unless we do it on the phone again.
• 1:05:12
  So this is a good problem to have.
• 1:05:16
  I'm not bitching at all. That was my hope.
• 1:05:18
  That was that we're going to get to talk to interesting people.
• 1:05:20
  But no man. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:23
  For those you don't know, what Mike's alluding to is we have
• 1:05:25
  guest booked basically every Tuesday and Friday in June.
• 1:05:28
  So it's going to be a fun little, I don't know, a month of
• 1:05:34
  learning different things from different people.
• 1:05:36
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:05:37
  We do have a couple people coming back on the show, which
• 1:05:39
  is going to be fun. Nate wants to debate.
• 1:05:42
  Nate wants to have a debate with Peter Ho.
• 1:05:45
  He wants to. Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  He wants to, like, spark up some controversy, man, I totally.
• 1:05:49
  Take Peter down for that. I was like right on well, cuz
• 1:05:53
  Nate's, Nate's all about health and Wellness and, and so is
• 1:05:56
  Peter and I know Nate. I don't know how how much Nate
• 1:06:00
  is tied to the products that he uses, but we know Peter's tied
• 1:06:03
  to his products he uses. So we could, we could totally
• 1:06:05
  have a product debate and see which ones that's.
• 1:06:07
  Going to be awesome dude. I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:06:09
  Yeah, it'll be fun for. Both great personalities and
• 1:06:12
  both very proficient at what they do.
• 1:06:14
  So yeah, I'm looking forward to Nate kind of picking his brain
• 1:06:19
  on a level that I couldn't as far as how do these things work
• 1:06:22
  or, you know, you and I only know so much about that stuff.
• 1:06:25
  So yeah, it's cool when somebody else is what I like to call a
• 1:06:29
  subject matter expert, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, if.
• 1:06:33
  We're talking guitars and music. Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Exactly, You and I are subject matter experts.
• 1:06:38
  Yep, we are. All right.
• 1:06:41
  Well, let's let's stick a fork in this one.
• 1:06:44
  Yeah, because I think I might lose my Internet, dude, OK, And
• 1:06:48
  there's a storm coming in, OK. OK boys and girls, this is the
• 1:06:51
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• 1:06:54
  subscribe, right? Subscribe and listen to this,
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• 1:06:59
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• 1:07:11
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  down the rabbit hole like that. So Instagram, just just give us
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  Instagram every time we have a show, which kind of tells you
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• 1:07:24
  We we put stuff on there and drive traffic to the YouTube
• 1:07:27
  channel until we get the Crystal mikeshow.com built.
• 1:07:30
  But all that helps us grow organically.
• 1:07:32
  We're not like most podcasts. We're not spending thousands of
• 1:07:35
  dollars to get people to come and look at us right now because
• 1:07:38
  it means more when your neighbor Joe says, holy shit, that's Mike
• 1:07:42
  and Chris. I like that, yes, you know,
• 1:07:44
  because it's real people. And we're in, what, 17 countries
• 1:07:47
  now? 18. 18 countries now and last
• 1:07:50
  check we we were just passed 61,000 total views on YouTube
• 1:07:56
  which. Is pretty crazy for a little
• 1:07:59
  over a year and no advertising. No, no.
• 1:08:03
  I did a couple little electronic blip boards, but those weren't
• 1:08:05
  anything that was really going to.
• 1:08:08
  It's not like people that I see know every week.
• 1:08:11
  You know, there's some insanity that people drop, but when you
• 1:08:14
  grow stuff organically it means more because then you have real
• 1:08:18
  followers that are watching you grow and follow your journey.
• 1:08:22
  Which I'll give you a quick example.
• 1:08:24
  Everybody else out there, you and I both follow.
• 1:08:27
  So this will, it's pertaining to you because probably nobody else
• 1:08:30
  follows it, but it gives you a good numbers example so that
• 1:08:34
  podcasters for Facebook has I think 71,000 people in the
• 1:08:38
  community. Now how much real, I mean, it
• 1:08:41
  worked out for you and I because we used it to our advantage,
• 1:08:45
  right? But I mean how much real
• 1:08:47
  interaction and content is going on out of 71,000 people?
• 1:08:51
  Right. Not a lot, because you can't.
• 1:08:53
  It's impossible. My point is, if somebody's
• 1:08:56
  spending hundreds of dollars every week to just drive traffic
• 1:09:00
  to their Facebook page or garner YouTube views, those people are
• 1:09:04
  what the industry calls like, fly by.
• 1:09:09
  Yeah, you know, they're not sticking.
• 1:09:11
  Around they're one hit wonders. You're 55 people that we have on
• 1:09:16
  YouTube now, which you know, hopefully becomes 55,000 or 5
• 1:09:19
  million, but those people are going to be there to the bitter
• 1:09:23
  end. They wanted to be a member of
• 1:09:25
  this show and we love you for being here.
• 1:09:27
  Same thing with my not our Spotify followers, Apple.
• 1:09:32
  Yep, you know, there's people that like different platforms
• 1:09:35
  and they're loyal to it. So all Chris is asking you to do
• 1:09:38
  is if you hit that subscribe button, you'll know every time
• 1:09:40
  we release something to your favorite platform.
• 1:09:42
  Exactly. That's it.
• 1:09:45
  Thank you. Don't let the bad days win.
• 1:09:48
  Yeah, some somebody, Somebody Loves You.
• 1:09:50
  You need to be here tomorrow when you wake up.
• 1:09:51
  If you're having a bad day, just, you know, take a deep
• 1:09:54
  breath, relax, inhale, meditate, chill out.
• 1:09:58
  You'll be fine tomorrow, because tomorrow is always a better day.
• 1:10:00
  Yeah, we've both lost somebody to suicide, so.
• 1:10:03
  We have. You don't, you don't ever get a
• 1:10:05
  chance to, you don't ever get a chance to say, hey, don't do
• 1:10:09
  that. So here's our chance to say
• 1:10:11
  don't do that to somebody that might be thinking about it now.
• 1:10:13
  So that means something to us. Exactly for the Chris and Mike.
• 1:10:17
  So I'm Chris. He's Mike.
• 1:10:18
  We'll see you next time. Love you brother.
• 1:10:21
  Love you too man. Look the tablet.
• 1:10:31
  Go inside, feel the teasers. Open your eyes on your journey.
• 1:10:39
  Think yourself it's the place where you will go.
• 1:10:47
  Feel the trail behind your eyes. Feel yourself and meet yourself.
• 1:10:54
  Take a moment. Look.
• 1:10:56
  Until. You see it fight the battle
• 1:10:59
  that's you pose weird. Fight the battle, but you pose
• 1:11:05
  weird. Who is this baby till you see
• 1:11:08
  that? Oh yeah, this is beyond here.
• 1:12:29
  You haven't found something in your sand for fighting.
• 1:12:37
  Wait for the dead. When it's closer out and get.
• 1:12:41
  Put in the wind, you ain't no creature we're playing.
• 1:12:46
  Smile and you should you Chris on the almighty man, you got a
• 1:12:53
  dream. Who in your life?
• 1:12:56
  This people. Soul in every man.
• 1:13:01
  Take the trail behind your eyes. Feel the soul revolution now.
• 1:13:07
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:51
  You gotta. You gotta.
• 1:13:54
  You gotta. You gotta.