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Hour 2 – Caleb’s Comments · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 2: Here more than welcome to chime in eight seven, seven
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Speaker 2: I'll get to the calls here. I'm not gonna lie.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna blab for more than a few minutes, but
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Speaker 2: then I'll get the calls. I've got an NFL topic
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Speaker 2: in front of me. I can't help myself. Okay, So
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Speaker 2: Seth Wickersham. I hear some people say Wickersham. I don't
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Speaker 2: know if it's Wickersham or Wickersham. It looks like to
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Speaker 2: be I'm gonna go with Sham. Whatever his name is. Seth.
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Speaker 2: He has a new book coming out in September. It's
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Speaker 2: about quarterbacks, but some excerpts of the book have been released.
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Speaker 2: They were released a couple of weeks ago, and one
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Speaker 2: of the juicy details is that Bears quarterback Caleb Williams
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Speaker 2: initially did not want to be Bears quarterback Caleb Williams. Okay,
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Speaker 2: so this came out a couple of weeks ago. You
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Speaker 2: might remember. Some of the bullet points were Caleb's dad,
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Speaker 2: Carl Williams, he wasn't a fan of his son playing
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Speaker 2: for the Bears. He said, Chicago is the place quarterbacks
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Speaker 2: go to die. And according to Wickersham Wickersham, Wickersham, wicker whatever.
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Speaker 2: He says that Carl Williams also met with lawyers and
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Speaker 2: agents to look for a way around the NFL draft.
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Speaker 2: This is how much they were anti Bears, not feeling
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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. They even considered. He was trying to
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Speaker 2: find out if his son could sign with the UFL team,
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Speaker 2: that's right, the United Football League. He's like, can my
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Speaker 2: son sign with a UFL team and then become an
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Speaker 2: unrestricted NFL free agent in twenty twenty five and then
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Speaker 2: be able to pick whatever team? Can we do that?
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Speaker 2: Is that a thing that those are the steps they
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Speaker 2: were taking to try to avoid the Bears. In the end,
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams didn't want to force his way out of
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Speaker 2: Chicago or whatever, talk all the trash in the world
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Speaker 2: about Chicago, or play this game of I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to play there and basically force his way out, make
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Speaker 2: it so untenable where the Bears are just like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're just not gonna select this guy. So Williams said
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Speaker 2: he didn't want to do that, and he quote wasn't
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Speaker 2: ready to nuke the city basically playing that game. So
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Speaker 2: that's the backdrop. Why you might already know all of this.
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Speaker 2: Why am I restating it? Well, we've got new information
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Speaker 2: over here. Caleb Williams Bears quarterback on Wednesday this week.
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Speaker 2: He attempted to clear the air, or shift the focus,
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Speaker 2: or change the narrative or all of the above. It's
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Speaker 2: kind of what he was doing over here. So this
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Speaker 2: is the happy spin on all of those details that
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Speaker 2: are in SETH. Wickersham's book that's going to be out
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Speaker 2: in September. This is what Caleb Williams does to kind
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Speaker 2: of put a happy face on everything that was out there.
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Speaker 2: Check it out.
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Speaker 3: And I want to come here and you know, be
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Speaker 3: the guy and be a part and be a reason
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Speaker 3: on why, you know, Chicago Bears turn this thing around.
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Speaker 3: So that last thing that was said and all of that,
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Speaker 3: I think was the most important thing is that I
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Speaker 3: wanted to be here, that I love being here. I
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Speaker 3: love my teammates, you know, I love all the people
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Speaker 3: that that got me here. Family friends, Ryan, Kevin, you know,
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Speaker 3: Fluse and and Shane, all those guys that you know
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Speaker 3: went through that all of that process with me to
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Speaker 3: get me here. But it was a it was a
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Speaker 3: you know, all those things, like I said, with thoughts,
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Speaker 3: but the main goal and the main objective of being
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Speaker 3: here is to turn around us why I was selected
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Speaker 3: number one.
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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, So that is man. That is a very
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Speaker 2: very ultra positive spin on the things that emerged from
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Speaker 2: that book. So I love that he says, you know,
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Speaker 2: that last thing that that was the real important thing,
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Speaker 2: that I want to be here in Chicago. You know,
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Speaker 2: all those other details about I don't know, me trying
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Speaker 2: to avoid the Bears and seeing if I could sign
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Speaker 2: with a UFL team. No, that's not the most important thing.
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Speaker 2: The most important thing is I eventually wanted to be
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Speaker 2: in Chicago after not wanting to be in Chicago whatsoever. Initially, Like,
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Speaker 2: that's not the most important thing. That's just that's a
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Speaker 2: funny spin to me that that would be like this,
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Speaker 2: That would be like, let's say you're a single guy
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Speaker 2: and you're out and about and there are a lot
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Speaker 2: of females around, and just picture these females like the
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Speaker 2: NFL type thing with with Caleb Williams. You know, Caleb
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Speaker 2: Williams is looking around like, oh man, I'd love to
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Speaker 2: go to the Minnesota Vikings, right bears. Yeah, that'd be
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Speaker 2: like you as a single guy, all these girls are around,
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Speaker 2: You're like, wow, look at the hot blonde man. Who
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Speaker 2: oh look at the redhead over that.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Nice. And then you're like, look at that lagoon creature
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Speaker 2: over there. And then somehow you end up with the
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Speaker 2: lagoon creature. And now you're trying to spin it. Liked,
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Speaker 2: I was interested the whole time. You mean, what do
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Speaker 2: you mean? No, Like, the most important thing is that
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Speaker 2: I wanted to be with the lagoon creature. I'm with
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Speaker 2: the lagoon creature. We're making it happen, baby, that's what
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Speaker 2: we're doing right now. That's what he's trying to do
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Speaker 2: is spin. This is if this was the oneed destination
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Speaker 2: the whole time, when we know it wasn't. This is
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Speaker 2: just a happy spin on everything the other thing is.
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Speaker 2: And I guess this is where I'll do my Big
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Speaker 2: Ben impression. Right. I can't do it nearly as well
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Speaker 2: as Big Ben. I haven't even practiced, so it's gonna suck.
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Speaker 2: I'm just let's lower the expectations. Let's temper everything right here.
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Speaker 2: But you know Big Ben does his format at the
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Speaker 2: top of each hour where we'll say something like I've
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Speaker 2: got TMI, lack of foresight and mulligan and we'll combine
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Speaker 2: all these things together and make some chocolate tuxedo cheesecake.
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Speaker 2: Is what we're gonna do. That was so good, Thank you?
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Speaker 5: Mary?
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Speaker 2: Was that all right? That was great? I appreciate that,
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Speaker 2: very nicely done. Now, the girls, Mary Mack and Brianna,
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Speaker 2: they got some cheesecake tonight. It was girls night out,
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Speaker 2: and I don't think cheesecake was eaten tonight. But I
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Speaker 2: did ask them their favorite flavors, and that's breeze favorite flavor,
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Speaker 2: like the chocolate tuxedo. I've not indulged in that type
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Speaker 2: of cheesecake. But that's what we're gonna do. Combine all
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Speaker 2: these things together. Now number one, we will go with
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Speaker 2: tm I. This is the deal with the Caleb Williams story.
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Speaker 2: This is a classic case of too much information. Unless
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Speaker 2: you think Wickersham is the most irresponsible, irresponsible journalist of
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Speaker 2: all time and he's got false quotes and false reports.
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Speaker 2: It just false facts. And unless you think that's the case,
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Speaker 2: then it's too much information from Caleb Williams and Caleb's dad.
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Speaker 2: This is a story for after Caleb's NFL career, not
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Speaker 2: going into year two. Okay, if Caleb Williams has a
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Speaker 2: decorated career, Let's say he puts up some individual numbers
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Speaker 2: for a long time, maybe some great team success. Maybe
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Speaker 2: he messes around and wins a Super Bowl or two.
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Speaker 2: It's possible, and all of a sudden, this book and
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Speaker 2: there are these details of like, yeah, initially want to
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Speaker 2: go to the Bears. If my dad was asking about
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Speaker 2: maybe going to a UFL team so I could avoid them.
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Speaker 2: If his career is over and he had all this
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Speaker 2: success and all of a sudden, those stories land completely differently.
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Speaker 2: That's like a barroom story you would tell your buddies
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Speaker 2: and everyone's like, get out of here, no kidding. Really,
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Speaker 2: it's like a fun thing at that point. But going
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Speaker 2: into year two after he was sacked sixty eight times
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Speaker 2: as a rookie and the Bears went five and twelve,
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Speaker 2: this is not the time for these type of storylines. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even want to go there initially, and my
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Speaker 2: dad is at talking to agents and lawyers and can
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Speaker 2: we not go to the NFL for one year and
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Speaker 2: then we can pick our team? Can we do that?
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Speaker 2: Is that a thing? That's not what you went out
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Speaker 2: there going into year two after you struggled for most
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Speaker 2: of your rookie season. That's just not smart. And that's
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Speaker 2: why it's a total lack of foresight. How could you
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Speaker 2: not know this would be the aftermath. It's like they're stunned, like,
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Speaker 2: whoa holy cow? We gave Wickersham these details thinking they
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Speaker 2: were like kind of cool fun facts, and all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden people are freaking out about it. Weird that
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Speaker 2: you've got Bears fans that are like, what the hell?
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Speaker 2: He didn't even want to be here? Really, You've got
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Speaker 2: NFL fans that are like, wow, listen to what Caleb,
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Speaker 2: he didn't want to be there. They're talking about signing
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Speaker 2: with the UFL team, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. All of
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Speaker 2: a sudden, the new head coach, Ben Johnson, he didn't
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Speaker 2: even been there. He hasn't addressed anything, and he's addressing
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Speaker 2: these Caleb Williams stories that are coming out details in
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Speaker 2: this new book. So it's a lack of foresight. It's like,
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, you have all this positive momentum for the
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Speaker 2: Bears offseason. They upgraded their offensive line, they made some
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Speaker 2: additions to their interior offensive line, made a couple of
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Speaker 2: draft picks that could pay dividends right with this offense,
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Speaker 2: could be difference makers. Colston Loveland, Luther Burden, these guys
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Speaker 2: could make a difference. And all of a sudden, there
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Speaker 2: are all these details emerging in a book and you
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Speaker 2: have to put out these fires like that's just not smart.
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Speaker 2: It's a lack of foresight. And the last part, the mulligan.
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Speaker 2: That's essentially what Caleb Williams is doing with that SoundBite
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Speaker 2: from Wednesday, He's basically asking for a mulligan. He's like,
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Speaker 2: the most important part is the last part of me
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Speaker 2: wanting to be here, not the UFL No no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: that's not That's basically Caleb, without directly saying it, He's
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Speaker 2: basically saying, look, my bad, too much information. I stepped
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Speaker 2: in it. Can we just pretend that all of this
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Speaker 2: information isn't out there? We do? Can we just start
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Speaker 2: over again?
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Speaker 1: Can we do that?
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Speaker 2: Like that's basically what he's say saying right there, because
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Speaker 2: he did, he stepped in it. That those are details
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Speaker 2: that should not be out after a rookie year that
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Speaker 2: was shaky at best. Those details should not be out
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Speaker 2: after Caleb's rookie year and Jaden Daniels' rookie year. Jaden
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Speaker 2: Daniels was a rock star in his rookie season, the
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Speaker 2: number two overall pick. He played much better than Caleb
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Speaker 2: Williams did as a rookie, and so you can't have
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Speaker 2: those I'll put it this way, if Jaden Daniels, if
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Speaker 2: those details came out with Jaden Daniels after the stud
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Speaker 2: rookie season that he had put up numbers, led his
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Speaker 2: team to the NFC Championship Game in year one after
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Speaker 2: a four win season, they won twelve games, made it
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Speaker 2: to the NFC Title Game, if those details came out
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Speaker 2: about Jaden Daniels, like, yeah, initially I didn't even want
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Speaker 2: to go there. I gotta be honest, Like the Minnesota
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Speaker 2: I thought that would have been a great landing spot
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Speaker 2: if the planets aligned and yata YadA. It lands completely
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Speaker 2: differently because Jaden Daniels had so much success as rookie season,
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams did not, so it lands differently. You have
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Speaker 2: to know that. You have to have foresight to know
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Speaker 2: how people are gonna take it based on the context.
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Speaker 2: And Caleb and Carl Williams is like they're out to
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Speaker 2: lunch on that They're just like, we're just sharing some
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Speaker 2: fun facts. That's over sharing. That's the equivalent of calling
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Speaker 2: out sick of work, just calling yeah, I just I
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Speaker 2: don't know, man, I feel horrible. I don't know what happened.
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, you're posting pictures at
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Speaker 2: the baseball game on social media, Like that's over sharing.
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Speaker 2: You're gonna get busted. What are you doing? Why would
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Speaker 2: you do that? That's the whole thing with Caleb Williams,
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Speaker 2: and I'll put it this way, it's an unnecessary hurdle
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Speaker 2: that he put in front of himself. And also the
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Speaker 2: Bears organization. But it's not a hurdle that they can't
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Speaker 2: get around or over. This just goes away magically. If
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Speaker 2: Kayleb Williams goes out there this year and plays well,
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Speaker 2: if he's productive, if the Bears are winning games, it's
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Speaker 2: not even a foot note. It just poof goes away.
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Speaker 2: But if Kayleb Williams is struggling, he's getting sacked again,
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Speaker 2: the Bears are losing games. Still, this story is gonna linger.
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Speaker 2: So they're trying to get out ahead of it and
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Speaker 2: trying to put the flames out when they have the
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Speaker 2: lighter fluid in their hands. They have the lighter fluid
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Speaker 2: in the matches in their hands, and now they're trying
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Speaker 2: to put the fire out and trying to dampen it.
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Speaker 2: It's like, why'd you start it in the first place.
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Speaker 2: You should have known this is what it would be,
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Speaker 2: but it's like they didn't have any idea. All right,
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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is your phone number.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to the calls coming up next, first
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Speaker 2: thing I do. Oh wow, we got lots of them
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Speaker 2: right here. Let me get out. First off, we got
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Speaker 2: at least a minute. My guy Jerome is in Charleston.
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Speaker 2: I've talked to Jerome over the years. I'm curious what
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Speaker 2: he's up to. Jerome, Fox Sports Radio, what's going on?
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Speaker 2: What's going on? Man?
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Speaker 4: Hey, Brian, Dad killed William's story. That is such a
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Speaker 4: non stories.
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Speaker 5: They boring me talking about this. I got a real
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Speaker 5: story for you.
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Speaker 4: And involves Beyond Sanders and his son Sharlow and.
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Speaker 2: This joy has got about that bores me, Jerome, I
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Speaker 2: can't stand. Bores me to tears. I don't want to
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Speaker 2: hear that.
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Speaker 5: Why not?
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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding that I was doing my Jerome from
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Speaker 2: Charleston impression.
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Speaker 4: Hey, now what is it?
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Speaker 2: Tell me? Tell me what it is.
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Speaker 4: He beat the guy up, put the guy in the hospital.
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Speaker 5: The guy ended up suing him.
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Speaker 4: Beyond's involved with this massive cover up about what went
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Speaker 4: on between his son and this man and the guys too,
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Speaker 4: Beyonna and his son and they walk do any they
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Speaker 4: want you to pay him on anything? And the Buccaneers
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Speaker 4: go out and draft this guy with her with something
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Speaker 4: like that hanging over his head. Honey, why is that
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Speaker 4: possible if I had done something like that? Someone? Do
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Speaker 4: you know how much these the time to be given me?
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Speaker 4: How keep beating the crap out of a guy. All right.
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Speaker 5: I just saw the story again again the other day.
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Speaker 4: Hi, may hell is this a non story? The media's
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Speaker 4: not talking about this? Why if Deanna have that much
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Speaker 4: power with the media that they can cover something like this?
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Speaker 4: This up. It's been going off for like almost ten
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Speaker 4: years and there's nothing no one can do about it.
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Speaker 2: So, like, I gotta be honest, I don't know the
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Speaker 2: details of the story. So what happened, Shiloh beat someone up?
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Speaker 2: And what it's the end of the world. What's going
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Speaker 2: on here? I don't understand what you're talking about.
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Speaker 4: Notop out of a guy in high school? Okay, this story,
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Speaker 4: it's got to be close to ten years old.
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Speaker 5: And Dion went to all kind of degrees.
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Speaker 4: To cover this thing up. About the evident thing happened.
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Speaker 4: He beat a man up and he touched down another
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Speaker 4: guy in high school. Okay, all because he's crazy as
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Speaker 4: hell and the buccaneers got him on the home there roster.
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Speaker 4: Why he's crazy? Nothing and there's nothing anybody could do
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Speaker 4: about it.
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Speaker 5: And the meeting refuses to talk about it.
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Speaker 4: Or do anything about it.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you want me to do about it,
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Speaker 2: Like it's uh, like I don't know, people get in fights.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you, like like parents
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Speaker 2: are going to cover things up. I understand where you're
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Speaker 2: coming from on it, But I don't know, man, unless
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Speaker 2: like there's some serious harm or someone was beaten within
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Speaker 2: an inch of their life or I don't know. I'd
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Speaker 2: have to know all the details of this story, but
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Speaker 2: I don't know that it's it's a story that you
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Speaker 2: care about. If Sanders isn't attached to it, you know,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, like h Randy Moss got into a
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Speaker 2: fight when he was in high school. You know, I
16:45
Speaker 2: don't know that you were up in arms about it then,
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Speaker 2: you know, years ago. So I don't know, but we'll
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Speaker 2: turn the page from that. I appreciate you checking injur
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Speaker 2: Rome eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Is your
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Speaker 2: phone number?
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Speaker 6: Man?
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Speaker 2: Listen. I laid out the caleble man had point did
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Speaker 2: a big bet impression, and Jerome was like, not impressed,
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Speaker 2: not impressed. Talk about something I care about? How about that?
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Speaker 2: Man thumbs down to the Uh what do they call that?
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Speaker 2: What's the word of the the mona? Something I should
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Speaker 2: I'm a radio guy, I should know that monologue.
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Speaker 1: There it is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the monologue. Goodness, I've been radio long enough. I
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Speaker 2: forgot the terminology. Yeah, Jerome was like monologue, double thumbs down.
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Speaker 2: No is what he told me.
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Speaker 5: Right there.
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Speaker 2: What's going on? Man? You're on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 6: Hey, Brian, back to your Indiana Knicks thing that.
19:22
Speaker 8: They played harder.
19:24
Speaker 4: That's weak, that's really weird. Is it is bad taste
19:29
Speaker 4: in my mouth?
19:30
Speaker 6: And I got no dog in the fight. But they're
19:34
Speaker 6: in the Eastern Conference semifinals.
19:38
Speaker 8: How can you say they played harder?
19:40
Speaker 6: Now, if they would have said we know it hard,
19:43
Speaker 6: that's just bad. It looks bad sounds bad. I mean,
19:49
Speaker 6: these players in the NBA, they're an elite group. There's
19:54
Speaker 6: not that many of them. They should play as hard
19:58
Speaker 6: as they can every game, and you know that they don't.
20:02
Speaker 6: I listened to you on the weekends and when you
20:04
Speaker 6: fill in, and I know when that on their light
20:08
Speaker 6: goes on, you bring your very betch why can't they?
20:11
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well thanks, Mike, I appreciate that. Yeah, it's
20:15
Speaker 2: it's an NBA playoff game. It's the Eastern Conference Finals.
20:18
Speaker 2: Like why why?
20:20
Speaker 6: Why?
20:20
Speaker 2: After a game? I put it this way, I would
20:24
Speaker 2: want the team I root for to be petrified of
20:30
Speaker 2: having to truthfully say that after a game, you know
20:33
Speaker 2: what I mean. I don't ever want a team to
20:37
Speaker 2: sit there and be like, yeah, they just played harder
20:39
Speaker 2: than us. They all the fifty to fifty balls they
20:43
Speaker 2: went their way. They just out rebounded us, loose balls,
20:46
Speaker 2: they got them all, Like, I don't know, man, they
20:49
Speaker 2: just they wanted it more, Like how does that happen?
20:52
Speaker 2: That blows my mind? But yeah, you'll hear that it's
20:55
Speaker 2: a playoff games. I don't understand the Yeah, we just
20:59
Speaker 2: didn't have focus or energy tonight. You didn't have focus
21:02
Speaker 2: or energy It's one thing. If it's like we just
21:04
Speaker 2: couldn't buy a shot, I get that. That's fine sometimes
21:08
Speaker 2: you're cold. But energy and focus, how does that ever
21:14
Speaker 2: lack when you're one win away from the NBA Finals.
21:19
Speaker 2: I don't understand how that. That's what Pascal Siakam said,
21:22
Speaker 2: and he was right. The Knicks just they brought more energy,
21:27
Speaker 2: they brought more physicality, they brought more focus, they brought
21:31
Speaker 2: all of that more than the Pacers. I don't understand
21:34
Speaker 2: how that can happen when you're one win away. I
21:36
Speaker 2: just I've got no explanation for that. It doesn't make
21:39
Speaker 2: any sense. You know, our guy Poppy in San Diego,
21:43
Speaker 2: he makes a lot of sense. He's fining us here.
21:45
Speaker 2: What's going on Poppy here on Fox Sports Radio.
21:48
Speaker 4: Hey, no, big love for you.
21:50
Speaker 7: Glad you're feeling.
21:51
Speaker 2: Better, and you know, thank you, buddy. I appreciate that.
21:55
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, my pleasure. You know, when you're feeling in
21:59
Speaker 7: for the Ben Malley Show, you know, he's my mantra.
22:02
Speaker 7: I love hearing different voices and different opinions and know
22:07
Speaker 7: you're a part of the real family.
22:10
Speaker 2: And well, I appreciate that, Poppy. That's great man. Moving
22:14
Speaker 2: up in the world.
22:15
Speaker 7: No, you're welcome, man. You know, I just wanted to say,
22:18
Speaker 7: first king about Sean Hallibordon. The only person that matters
22:22
Speaker 7: who shows up is Scott Foster.
22:25
Speaker 2: That will guarantee, you know what's crazy, poppy, you know,
22:33
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I'm like the one person that
22:37
Speaker 2: halfway sticks up for for Scott Foster. I'm the one.
22:41
Speaker 2: I swear, I'm the one person on earth that halfway
22:43
Speaker 2: sticks up for the guy where I'm not. I'm not
22:45
Speaker 2: like he's the best official of all time. I'm like,
22:48
Speaker 2: he's not as bad. He's not as bad as people
22:52
Speaker 2: make him out to be. That's as far as I
22:53
Speaker 2: can go with it. But I'm the one guy that's
22:56
Speaker 2: ever said anything halfway positive about him.
22:58
Speaker 7: I swear, well, I love that that year you're saying
23:01
Speaker 7: the truth right dur in the fact. He's a great official,
23:04
Speaker 7: He's awesome, and he's made us a lot of money
23:06
Speaker 7: bling blink, you know if you know what I mean.
23:08
Speaker 7: And ninety percent you know, on the playoffs, so we're
23:12
Speaker 7: gonna be doing good. And I got some free picks
23:14
Speaker 7: for you. You know, I know you love doing sports
23:16
Speaker 7: fitting and stuff, Like I got a free pick you know,
23:18
Speaker 7: everyone's going crazy and I'm laughing so hard. It reminds
23:22
Speaker 7: me like, you know what, the nixt one against the Celtics,
23:25
Speaker 7: and we're just gonna go co New York News, your
23:27
Speaker 7: co CO New York New, YOURK crew, And tomorrow we're
23:30
Speaker 7: gonna go with Mets against the Rockies. That kids at
23:33
Speaker 7: four ten pm. And I'm really loving the New York Mets.
23:37
Speaker 7: The run line minus two and a half take him
23:40
Speaker 7: out plus four oh five. So we're gonna make that
23:43
Speaker 7: bling blink them out. So that's my free pick for
23:45
Speaker 7: you guys.
23:47
Speaker 2: All right, taking on the Rockies. That's normally a good
23:49
Speaker 2: way to make some money. Rockies have not actually been
23:53
Speaker 2: crushing it this year, so all right, it's crazy that
23:56
Speaker 2: the run line is, you know, two and a half,
23:58
Speaker 2: sometimes three and a half. That's how much the Rockies suck.
24:02
Speaker 2: You know. That's a rough one, Poppy. I hope it
24:04
Speaker 2: comes through for you, because there's nothing worse than like, yeah,
24:07
Speaker 2: I was fading the Rockies and the only lost by
24:10
Speaker 2: one or two. You know, that's a rough life right there.
24:13
Speaker 2: But I'll be pulling for you, buddy. I hope that
24:15
Speaker 2: comes through. I appreciate the free pick. Poppy, good stuff
24:18
Speaker 2: as always. Man, let me get one more in here.
24:20
Speaker 2: Let's get blind Scott over in Boston. Let's all howur
24:25
Speaker 2: trio right here? Yeah, Hey we Scott.
24:29
Speaker 8: I'm a big fan. I wouldn't usually do this by
24:32
Speaker 8: I like you a lot, and I'm just curious, like,
24:34
Speaker 8: what's up for your summer? You going to any weddings?
24:37
Speaker 8: You've got like niece at their nephew's graduating college, You're
24:39
Speaker 8: going to high school? You got any big events in
24:41
Speaker 8: the next three months. I hear you everywhere. I'm a
24:45
Speaker 8: Brian no historian, like I follow you from You were
24:48
Speaker 8: living in New Orleans, then you were in Las Vegas.
24:50
Speaker 8: I've seen you in the hospital. I had to tell
24:52
Speaker 8: Blind Emmitt about told me about it, like I've been
24:56
Speaker 8: in the hospital a lot in my life. Saw I
24:59
Speaker 8: was going to reach out to it, but I don't
25:00
Speaker 8: think you really wanted to hear from me, so I didn't.
25:03
Speaker 8: But I'm glad to hear you here. Like but one
25:06
Speaker 8: other thing, I got three points right now. I got
25:10
Speaker 8: Stefan Diggs, Bill Belichick, and the Celtics. Which one I
25:13
Speaker 8: want to talk about all of them? Let me just go.
25:15
Speaker 8: So here's Stefan. Yeah, here's Stefan Diggs. He has that
25:20
Speaker 8: purple powder.
25:21
Speaker 6: You know.
25:22
Speaker 8: My point here is I think that I probably if
25:24
Speaker 8: my high school had football, I think I could have
25:26
Speaker 8: maybe been an NFL player. I don't think these NFL
25:28
Speaker 8: players are that smart. I'm witnessing Bill Belichick. He pretended
25:32
Speaker 8: like he was a genius his whole life when he
25:34
Speaker 8: was coaching football. I don't think there was any genius
25:36
Speaker 8: behind that man. I think he's a bumbling pool. And
25:39
Speaker 8: then moving on to the Celtics, I think Joe Mizzula
25:42
Speaker 8: is a great coach. He's playing chess while everybody else
25:45
Speaker 8: is playing checkers. That was like a historical team. Jason
25:48
Speaker 8: Tatum's knee blew up and they lost, but he didn't
25:51
Speaker 8: pressure the guys. And when Van Gundhi left, it blew up.
25:54
Speaker 8: It totally blew up the whole Celtics franchise, you know.
25:58
Speaker 8: And then I want to go into basketball here with
25:59
Speaker 8: the New York Knicks franchise. We don't have any New
26:01
Speaker 8: York Knicks calls because WFA is on simultaneously at the
26:05
Speaker 8: same time. The guy on there used to be Mike
26:07
Speaker 8: Frances's producer, is really not that great, but they're listening
26:10
Speaker 8: over there, but they really need the New York Knicks
26:12
Speaker 8: to get into the finals. This is coming out of
26:14
Speaker 8: the Boston media market. I don't know what the thinking
26:17
Speaker 8: is behind this, because if the NBA has so much money,
26:20
Speaker 8: so this is how I look at it. The Celtics
26:22
Speaker 8: were just sold for six point five billion. Chris Playing
26:25
Speaker 8: verified this with me. These guys have a lot of money.
26:28
Speaker 8: I mean, if you're a billionaire, you might not have
26:30
Speaker 8: five hundred million dollars to pay on a luxury text.
26:32
Speaker 8: But don't buy a team if you're going to blow
26:35
Speaker 8: it up and then totally break it down. I don't
26:37
Speaker 8: think that's necessarily what the Celtics are going to do,
26:40
Speaker 8: but it's hard to say. The way the economy is
26:42
Speaker 8: going right now, the economy doesn't look good. We're all
26:45
Speaker 8: scared about our jobs. It's not advertising money, so anything
26:48
Speaker 8: could happen. But when you look at Oklahoma City in
26:51
Speaker 8: Indiana Panther as a final in the NBA Finals, I
26:55
Speaker 8: don't know if the NBA can afford to take a
26:57
Speaker 8: hit like that because it won't draw what the New
27:00
Speaker 8: Necks with draw, or maybe the Lakers. But it's hard
27:03
Speaker 8: because I mean, I went to school for accounting, but
27:06
Speaker 8: I'm not opening up their books their books or anything.
27:08
Speaker 8: And I got another dynamic. There's a lot of blind
27:11
Speaker 8: people that call the show. I actually have my door
27:14
Speaker 8: barricaded right now. There's this guy that lives in my building.
27:17
Speaker 8: He is like this kind of strange. He he doesn't
27:21
Speaker 8: like me, confronts me. He holding the door for me.
27:23
Speaker 8: I'm like, dude, you've got to get out of the
27:25
Speaker 8: way of the door. I can't pass by, you know
27:27
Speaker 8: what I mean. Like if you're a blind person, if
27:29
Speaker 8: you're holding the door for a blind person, the blind
27:31
Speaker 8: person will just fall out of the door or they'll
27:33
Speaker 8: crash into the door threshold. So if you're holding the
27:36
Speaker 8: door for the blind person, the blind person can't enter
27:39
Speaker 8: through the door because you're standing where the door handle is.
27:42
Speaker 8: So a blind person actually wants to push the whole,
27:44
Speaker 8: the whole selves through the door so they can feel
27:47
Speaker 8: themselves fill the door, walk through the doorframe, get through
27:50
Speaker 8: the door safely. So if he's negotiating and then this
27:53
Speaker 8: is coming but people, but it's like a deal breaker
27:57
Speaker 8: with this guy, so me and him get to fight.
27:59
Speaker 8: The police called Like this is like normal for around
28:02
Speaker 8: here in Boston. The Boston people like somebody's going to
28:05
Speaker 8: the bathroom in their cheerios lately. Dude, it's not the
28:08
Speaker 8: same Boston. It's been like Boston in the past ten years.
28:14
Speaker 2: Blane Scott, you gotta be careful with those fights.
28:17
Speaker 4: Man.
28:17
Speaker 2: My guy in Charleston, you know Jerome and Charleston, he
28:21
Speaker 2: is very anti fighting. You know, he's a pacifist, So
28:24
Speaker 2: you gotta be careful with those fights over there in Boston.
28:27
Speaker 2: Blind Scott, just do me a favor. Okay, please please
28:30
Speaker 2: keep your safety going there. But listen, I appreciate you
28:32
Speaker 2: checking in. Listen. I'll say a couple of things based
28:35
Speaker 2: on what you're talking about. First off, Pacers Thunder is
28:38
Speaker 2: not a ratings bonanza if that ends up being the
28:41
Speaker 2: finals matchup. But the NBA is going to be just fine. Like,
28:45
Speaker 2: we got to tone it down with all these conspiracy theories,
28:49
Speaker 2: my lord, it's insanity. I can't handle any more conspiracy theories.
28:55
Speaker 2: I can't like. Some of them make zero sense, and
28:59
Speaker 2: some of them seem to make sense until you really
29:03
Speaker 2: think it through and then you're like, yeah, it doesn't
29:04
Speaker 2: make any sense. How many conspiracy theories are we going
29:08
Speaker 2: to have you go back to the NBA draft lottery,
29:11
Speaker 2: that's the most common one where it's like, oh, let
29:13
Speaker 2: me get this straight.
29:14
Speaker 4: Right.
29:14
Speaker 2: The Dallas Mavericks they traded Luka Doncic and then somehow,
29:19
Speaker 2: some way they get the number one overall pick and
29:21
Speaker 2: they're gonna draft Cooper Flag. And we don't think that's fixed. Really, Okay,
29:27
Speaker 2: pause and think that through. Why on earth would Adam
29:33
Speaker 2: Silver risk the integrity of the entire league just to
29:40
Speaker 2: put Cooper Flag in Dallas? Like why why would he do?
29:45
Speaker 6: Why? Why?
29:47
Speaker 2: I don't understand these people that subscribe to conspiracy theories
29:50
Speaker 2: left and right. There was a conspiracy theory last night
29:52
Speaker 2: when my buddy's back home in South Bend. He's a
29:56
Speaker 2: sports better and he's like, oh, there was a boost
30:00
Speaker 2: on one of the sports books where you could get
30:03
Speaker 2: shake gilges Alexander scoring thirty five points, you could get
30:06
Speaker 2: a better payout. But he had thirty four points and
30:10
Speaker 2: he checked out of the game because it was such
30:11
Speaker 2: a blowout with a lot of time left, like maybe
30:14
Speaker 2: eight minutes left or whatever it was. And my guy
30:17
Speaker 2: Ja was like, oh, you're gonna get conspiracy theorists left
30:20
Speaker 2: and right, saying it's rigged. And he sent me screenshots
30:24
Speaker 2: and people are like, oh, if you didn't know gambling
30:26
Speaker 2: is rigged, this is an example of what it's like, dude,
30:30
Speaker 2: like whatever, maybe it was DraftKings. I'm not sure which
30:34
Speaker 2: book it was, but let's say it was like DK.
30:38
Speaker 2: Whatever money they were going to lose on that SGA
30:42
Speaker 2: prop boost, they're not even gonna notice it. And that's
30:46
Speaker 2: what people are directly pointing to, like, see, this is evidence.
30:49
Speaker 2: This is exhibit a that sports gambling as a whole
30:53
Speaker 2: is rigged. Because SGA left the game in a complete
30:58
Speaker 2: blowout when he was one point away from cashing the
31:01
Speaker 2: odds boost, It's like, what are we doing here, man, Like,
31:05
Speaker 2: I don't know. At some point we got to trend
31:08
Speaker 2: the other way on conspiracy theories. It is, it's the
31:13
Speaker 2: trendiest thing to just buy into them the other thing
31:16
Speaker 2: real fast that I know, the Celtics are no longer
31:18
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, but I am not a Missoula guy.
31:22
Speaker 2: I'm just not. You just watch that Pacers offense. It
31:26
Speaker 2: is freaking brutal. I don't know what it is with
31:28
Speaker 2: they have so much talent and so little ball movement.
31:32
Speaker 2: And listen, just so you understand where I'm coming from.
31:35
Speaker 2: I am not anti isolation basketball, but I look at
31:40
Speaker 2: it like drinking. I would like you to be a
31:43
Speaker 2: social drinker, right, I don't want you to be doing
31:47
Speaker 2: keg stands nightly. That's how I think of ISO basketball.
31:51
Speaker 2: If you do it here and there, Hey, we need
31:53
Speaker 2: a bucket, shot clocks running out Tatum, get us a bucket, fine,
31:57
Speaker 2: no problem with it. But to rely on it time
32:01
Speaker 2: and time and time again like the Celtics do, it's ridiculous.
32:07
Speaker 2: Their offense a lot of the time is they'll just
32:09
Speaker 2: stand around and watch Tatum dribble the ball, try to
32:13
Speaker 2: make a couple of moves for the first twenty seconds
32:16
Speaker 2: and then hopefully it gets a decent shot. And that
32:19
Speaker 2: was our set. That was just watch Tatum, let's run,
32:22
Speaker 2: watch Tatum again. Run that back. It makes no sense.
32:25
Speaker 2: Reminds me of the Warriors before Steve Kerr was there.
32:29
Speaker 2: The Warriors with Mark Jackson, much different offense. Didn't have
32:33
Speaker 2: the same movement, didn't have the same motion, didn't have
32:37
Speaker 2: any of that compared to the Steve Kerr offense. And
32:40
Speaker 2: that's what I see from the Celtics. They could be
32:42
Speaker 2: so much better offensively than they are. They're way too
32:45
Speaker 2: talented what they have on the court. They can space
32:49
Speaker 2: the floor, they have shooters everywhere, and they have this
32:52
Speaker 2: stupid like, let's just watch Tatum offense. I'm not a
32:55
Speaker 2: Missoula guy. I'm just not. The offense should not look
32:59
Speaker 2: like that as often as it does, and it does
33:01
Speaker 2: time and time and time again. I don't get it.
33:03
Speaker 3: I do not get it.
33:06
Speaker 2: But uh, he's out of the playoffs, So what does
33:07
Speaker 2: it matter? All right? Eight seven, seven ninety nine on
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33:14
Speaker 2: very good stuff, very nice. Okay, We'll get to the
33:19
Speaker 2: one team that threatens our long term happiness. This team
33:23
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Speaker 2: so I believe that we have a big threat to
34:01
Speaker 2: our long term happiness over here. Now, it's not gonna
34:04
Speaker 2: be a consensus take here because I realize we're gonna
34:07
Speaker 2: view things much differently based on our preferences and all
34:09
Speaker 2: that YadA YadA. But if you look at the NBA playoffs,
34:12
Speaker 2: I think it's been great that we will have a
34:15
Speaker 2: new champion for the seventh straight year. It's the first
34:18
Speaker 2: time in NBA history that we've had seven different champions
34:22
Speaker 2: in seven years. I like this spread the wealth thing.
34:27
Speaker 2: Now you can argue differently. You could argue that a
34:30
Speaker 2: dynasty is more compelling. The David Goliath thing is really interesting.
34:36
Speaker 2: If a team is going for a three peat or
34:39
Speaker 2: a fourth championship or what have you, that makes it
34:43
Speaker 2: more intriguing to see if this next team can dethrone them.
34:46
Speaker 2: And okay, I'll listen to that. Maybe some people like that.
34:51
Speaker 2: I prefer new champions, new blood unless it's my favorite
34:55
Speaker 2: team that's stacking twenty titles in a row. You know,
34:58
Speaker 2: I'd be fine with that. But if it's not my
34:59
Speaker 2: favorite team. I prefer new Blood for a few reasons.
35:04
Speaker 2: If you look at these last seven years, imagine what
35:06
Speaker 2: the NBA would look like and imagine how the storylines
35:10
Speaker 2: would land if the dynamics were much different. Let's say
35:15
Speaker 2: there was a dynasty these last seven years and a
35:18
Speaker 2: team rattled off I don't know, four championships over the
35:22
Speaker 2: last seven years that's happened before. What if there was
35:25
Speaker 2: a three pet and a gap in between and another
35:30
Speaker 2: two titles. Think about the nineties Bowls they won six
35:32
Speaker 2: and eight years. What if we had something like that
35:35
Speaker 2: In these last seven years. We've got one team that
35:38
Speaker 2: won four or five championships and then there are just
35:43
Speaker 2: a couple more years where a different team won. What
35:47
Speaker 2: if Yannis was still looking for his first championship, so
35:51
Speaker 2: the two time MVP doesn't have a championship, How we
35:55
Speaker 2: would look at Yannis, how we would talk about Yiannis?
35:57
Speaker 2: It would land completely differently. What if Jokic didn't have
36:01
Speaker 2: that one title. It's a three time MVP with no rings.
36:05
Speaker 2: That's all you would ever hear about. It puts up
36:09
Speaker 2: regular season numbers, but where are the rings? Where are
36:12
Speaker 2: the rings? Where are the rings? Repeat for the nine
36:15
Speaker 2: thousandth time. That would be miserable. Imagine if Lebron didn't
36:20
Speaker 2: win a ring with the Lakers. Now we know how
36:23
Speaker 2: it goes. There are a lot of Lebron haters out there.
36:25
Speaker 2: There'd be plenty of people that would be excited and
36:27
Speaker 2: happy about that. But for the people that are maybe
36:31
Speaker 2: on the fence or thinking it would be awesome, think
36:34
Speaker 2: about it from another point of view, where every time
36:38
Speaker 2: Lebron James has talked about all you hear is he
36:41
Speaker 2: hasn't want a ring in La yet has done that.
36:44
Speaker 2: That box hasn't been checked, so it would be much
36:48
Speaker 2: much different. Kawhi he went to Toronto, never won that ring,
36:52
Speaker 2: and maybe that Warriors dynasty just kept going. You think
36:56
Speaker 2: the NBA would be better there, I don't. I prefer
36:59
Speaker 2: it the way it is right now. Seven new champions
37:02
Speaker 2: over the last seven years. I think that's compelling. I
37:04
Speaker 2: would take this NBA over the Hey, just wake me
37:09
Speaker 2: up when it's the Cavs and the Warriors in the finals,
37:11
Speaker 2: because that's what we know it's gonna be. That was
37:14
Speaker 2: not compelling to me. That's the reason why the NBA
37:17
Speaker 2: tinkered with the luxury tax threshold and made it really
37:21
Speaker 2: difficult to put three superstars together. That's why they wanted
37:26
Speaker 2: to avoid one team becoming a dynasty and just running
37:31
Speaker 2: it back and back and back and right, Like, I
37:34
Speaker 2: think it's been compelling. Like, we've had more twenty point
37:38
Speaker 2: comebacks this NBA postseason than the last four postseasons combined.
37:44
Speaker 2: We've had six this season. We've had five over the
37:48
Speaker 2: previous four postseasons. So we've got all these crazy twenty
37:52
Speaker 2: point comebacks. We're gonna have a new champion. I think
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Speaker 2: that's better. I think it's a more interesting dynamic. There
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Speaker 2: are a lot of fans of a lot of teams
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Speaker 2: that would prefer this over the Hey, we got two
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Speaker 2: three teams that are just towering over everybody else, So
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Speaker 2: I think this is better. The one team that threatens
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Speaker 2: that long term happiness, if indeed that is your definition
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Speaker 2: of long term happiness, right, sharing the wealth, more champions
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Speaker 2: over more years. The one team that is a direct
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Speaker 2: threat of all of that is the Oklahoma City Thunder.
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Speaker 2: And look, I realize we did this back in twenty
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Speaker 2: twelve when the Young Guns Westbrook KD. James Harden they
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Speaker 2: won the Western Conference. They're heading to the finals, and
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Speaker 2: you're like, man, this team, how much success are they
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Speaker 2: gonna have over the years to come? And they had
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Speaker 2: one finals appearance and one finals loss and that was it.
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Speaker 2: That was it for the success. So hey, it could
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Speaker 2: happen where OKC doesn't win a championship this year and
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Speaker 2: they don't turn into a dynasty. But I find it
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Speaker 2: hard to believe they're not gonna win a championship this year.
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Speaker 2: They are young, they are deep, they are very talented,
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Speaker 2: and they have been chewing teams up all season long.
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Speaker 2: They are eighty and eighteen if you include the playoffs,
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Speaker 2: that's a record eighty and eighteen. They're twenty nine to
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Speaker 2: one against the Eastern Conference this season, and I'm supposed
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Speaker 2: to believe the Knicks are gonna beat him. The Knicks
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Speaker 2: would get eaten alive against OKAC if that's the finals matchup.
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Speaker 2: The Pacers might threaten to win a game or two,
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Speaker 2: or I just don't see OKAC losing that series. They're
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Speaker 2: just better, they're deeper, their defense is outstanding. The Pacers
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Speaker 2: don't defend on that type of level. So I think
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Speaker 2: that threatens the spread the wealth NBA that we're enjoying
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Speaker 2: right now. Is okacr comeing up next. The reality for
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Speaker 2: my favorite team shows that the reality for another franchise
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Speaker 2: will suck as well.