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Inside The Birds Week 15 Postgame Show: Philadelphia Eagles 31, Las Vegas Raiders 0 · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to the Inside the Birds postgame show.
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Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher alongside Adam Kaplan. And if it's felt
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Speaker 1: like a while since you've seen a game like this,
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Speaker 1: well you're right. I mean the Eagles absolutely destroy the
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders thirty.
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Speaker 2: One to nothing.
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Speaker 1: Somewhat of a historic game, Adam, in that the Raiders
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Speaker 1: managed seventy five total yards, and that's only been done
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Speaker 1: seven times in the history of the Eagles organization that
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Speaker 1: a team has failed to get more than seventy five
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Speaker 1: yards against them. So last time it was nineteen fifty
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Speaker 1: and the Browns actually won that game.
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Speaker 2: But the Raiders, they were nowhere near winning the game.
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Speaker 1: This was what we talked about in the pregame show,
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Speaker 1: kind of a game you have to win and sort
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Speaker 1: of that get right game after a three game losing streak.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just they they had the advantages, there's no
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Speaker 3: about They came in. You and I and Greg and
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Speaker 3: our pregame show. We all liked the Eagles to win handily.
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Speaker 3: The weather was certainly a factor and we knew this
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Speaker 3: coming in. The win was going to be a factory
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Speaker 3: and the snow didn't matter because it ended around nine
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Speaker 3: or ten o'clock. But the bottom line is the Eagles
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Speaker 3: had a run game one great although the total number
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Speaker 3: they piled them on late in the game, but they
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Speaker 3: had some. They definitely had some nice runs again to
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Speaker 3: the outside. A and B gap runs, especially A are tough.
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Speaker 3: They're one of the worst A gap running teams the
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Speaker 3: National Football League. Who the hell new coming into the season.
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Speaker 3: It's it's weird, but did some good things on offense.
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Speaker 3: Passing game wise, they didn't have to throw it a lot,
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Speaker 3: but they're efficient. They liked those short area flat passes
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Speaker 3: to Goddard Man They of course he dropped one right
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Speaker 3: in his hands for a touchdown, but they worked that well.
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Speaker 3: Godard still had a huge game. It's a dominant game. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but what could you say? I mean, it's both sides
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Speaker 3: of the football. That's the thing is. You know we've
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Speaker 3: said all season, what are they ever going to play
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Speaker 3: together both sides of the football, What are they going
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Speaker 3: to do well the same game? Well, this is a
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Speaker 3: game they did well.
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Speaker 1: Right, and I just sense from your tone and mine's
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Speaker 1: going to match it is that it's a workman like
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Speaker 1: win where they did what they had to do.
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Speaker 2: They executed well, there are still things that they're not
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Speaker 2: doing great. You mentioned their average per carry was three
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Speaker 2: point nine.
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Speaker 1: That's not very good, you know, and they obviously their
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Speaker 1: defense was very dominant against an offensive line that had
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Speaker 1: backups that's just not in not.
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Speaker 2: Able to hold up against an Eagles format front.
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Speaker 1: So I'm with I think, I'm we're in the same
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Speaker 1: boat where you don't take much from the win big
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Speaker 1: picture other than they needed to win.
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Speaker 2: They were in a slide. They couldn't continue to slide.
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Speaker 1: A loss or even worse performance like a ten to
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Speaker 1: three win would have really had you questioning the team now.
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't make anything their long term problems go away.
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Speaker 1: But for seeding purposes, for winning the NFC East, very
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Speaker 1: very big, and you know you go on from there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah it, I mean they did it totally. They ran
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Speaker 3: for one hundred and eighty three yard, but if you
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Speaker 3: really watch the game closely, when it fell like one
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Speaker 3: hundred and ten hundred and twenty, but yeah, Barklay was
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Speaker 3: seventeen yard. Bigsby looked good as a change up to Barkley,
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Speaker 3: and then Barklay he hurt his neck. He obviously came back.
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Speaker 3: He kind of took one series off the camera showed
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Speaker 3: him motioning, because what happened was he went down, he
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Speaker 3: lowered his head and the defenders converged on him, and
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Speaker 3: they showed him on the sidelines with his jacket on,
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Speaker 3: and he was working.
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Speaker 2: He was no one was doing it for him.
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Speaker 3: He was doing it himself, moving his neck side aside,
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Speaker 3: and he came back in. It was fine. We'll see
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Speaker 3: if they listened on the injury report, Hurts with the
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Speaker 3: Hurts with the left ankle. He bet it back. Greg
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Speaker 3: Olsen pointed it out. We all saw that. But other
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Speaker 3: than that, it seemed like a clean game. They only
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Speaker 3: three penalties, and I could tell you the three penalties.
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Speaker 3: Steed Brown had his usual penalty, but it wasn't for
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Speaker 3: I don't believe it. I don't think it was a
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Speaker 3: fifteen yarder. It was just a he had his penalty.
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Speaker 3: Steen had his usual penalty he seems to have. And
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Speaker 3: then Cooper Dejeane, you can't do this man. He Tyler
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Speaker 3: Lockett should have been called for unnecessary roughness. He got
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Speaker 3: in his face, runs point to like and then of
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Speaker 3: course Coop pushed him back, and that's what they saw.
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Speaker 3: I hate when that happens Yeah, it's really embarrassing, like
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Speaker 3: the brush should see both things, but he didn't.
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Speaker 1: The tail tail As old as time, the retaliator always gets,
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Speaker 1: you know, the penalty, and the instigator always gets away
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Speaker 1: with it.
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Speaker 2: But you're right that you have to have the discipline to.
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Speaker 1: Know not to do that if you're looking for a
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Speaker 1: story within a story, because again, there's only so much
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Speaker 1: you can take from from this game.
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Speaker 2: Brandon Graham came to save.
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Speaker 1: He came out of retirement to save the Eagles edge
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Speaker 1: rush right because the Darius Smith retired, Nolan Smith was hurt.
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Speaker 1: They were getting basically Josh Rouce uh and they didn't
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Speaker 1: have Jillen Phillips yet. And then lo and behold, he
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Speaker 1: has come through for the Eagles as an interior defensive
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Speaker 1: lineman for the last two games and then really had
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Speaker 1: two sacks. I mean, he was a dominant force he has.
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Speaker 1: Now he's saving the Eagles on the interior line with
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Speaker 1: Gileen Carter out in a totally and a spot he's
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Speaker 1: never really played for. He's played inside in the pass rush,
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Speaker 1: but he's actually playing inside now next to Jordan Davis
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Speaker 1: on early downs as well. And man, the guy's unflappable Adam.
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Speaker 1: He just continues to add to his legacy of just
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Speaker 1: being the jack. I mean, he's been able to he's played.
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Speaker 1: He's now played outside linebacker edge four to three, defensive
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Speaker 1: end four to three, pass rusher in the nickel, and
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Speaker 1: now interior defensive line in a five to two or
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Speaker 1: even a four to three base. So my got, what
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Speaker 1: what can he do?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? He line up at the short edge last season,
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Speaker 3: which is where you're reduced, and you see he stands
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Speaker 3: up next to he's who would stand over the tackle
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Speaker 3: or a little bit in the inside of the tackle shoulder.
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Speaker 3: But now he played left. Looking at my notes, your
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Speaker 3: left defensive tackle, it's kind of incredible because I know
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Speaker 3: they listen to six to two you and I know
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Speaker 3: he's not six to two. He's more at six to one. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and he's stocky, you know. He when he was in
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Speaker 3: the prime of his career was like two fifty probably
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Speaker 3: two fifty five. But the bottom line is the absolutely
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Speaker 3: dominate Ti Robinson came in. I saw him come in
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Speaker 3: and in some situations a third down, but overall it
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Speaker 3: was just a dominant performance. You're coming in. I didn't
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Speaker 3: want to pick a blowout because we talked about this,
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Speaker 3: how the Raiders played the Broncos tough. They played a
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Speaker 3: couple teams tough. Patrick Graham's a fantastic defense coordinator. I
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Speaker 3: never had any doubt that Eagles would win the game.
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Speaker 3: That was never even somebody even considered. There's no way
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Speaker 3: that there was not thin the Cardinals team last year.
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Speaker 3: The Cardinals were way more talented than this Raiders team.
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Speaker 3: But the problem is to try to think that the
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Speaker 3: Raiders can come within ten or cover the twelve. How
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Speaker 3: are they going to score? And once again, and Greg
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Speaker 3: Olsen also pointed this out. If the Eagles aren't one
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Speaker 3: of the best teams against the tight end, they're certainly
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Speaker 3: they're not. They may not be best, but they're certainly
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Speaker 3: one of them. They handled Brock bowers Man, they did.
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Speaker 3: They were phenomenal against him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the only times I thought that pick
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Speaker 1: you could get him the ball were on real quick
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Speaker 1: three step drops, swings like nothing that was going to
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Speaker 1: stress them vertically or really hurt them. And yeah, again,
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Speaker 1: when a team only seventy five total yards, you know
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Speaker 1: you've just completely shut that. They averaged one point nine
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Speaker 1: yards per play. I believe I didn't. I didn't go
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Speaker 1: back through the record books to look and see if
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Speaker 1: that when the last time that happened as well. But
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Speaker 1: that's just really impressive. So, I mean, look, what we
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Speaker 1: do on the show is really try to go inside
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Speaker 1: the game more so than just rehashing obvious stuff. And
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Speaker 1: there's not much right, But I think there's two things
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Speaker 1: to me that stand out from this game that is
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Speaker 1: a little bit deeper. Right, Let's let's start with offense
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Speaker 1: on it. I don't We'll have to see the All
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Speaker 1: twenty two. We'll have to talk to Greg Osel, but
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Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain what we're gonna see is that they
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Speaker 1: did not run a lot of those concepts past concepts
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Speaker 1: that they did against the Chargers. We talked about the
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Speaker 1: four strong and the floods. They did go spread empty,
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Speaker 1: but really ran out of it with Jalen Hurts more
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Speaker 1: so than through out of it. So what we have
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Speaker 1: to go see going forward, was that a response to
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Speaker 1: the Chargers that they lost and turn the ball over?
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Speaker 1: You know, are they just deciding that the goodness from
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Speaker 1: that wasn't good enough? Or was it a response to
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Speaker 1: the weather, the wind? They only threw the ball fifteen
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Speaker 1: times to begin with that to me is very intriguing
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Speaker 1: because you and I and Greg and others felt you
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Speaker 1: got to continue to work this into your pass offense
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Speaker 1: if you really want to grow and evolve here over
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Speaker 1: the last stretch of the season.
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Speaker 2: So I didn't see it. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Speaker 1: We'll see on the All twenty two, but I'm sure
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Speaker 1: from what I was just watching it, it didn't feel like
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Speaker 1: they were doing anything intricate from a pass games.
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Speaker 3: Alright, I'm not going to comment on because I have
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Speaker 3: no idea. It's possible. You can't tell if TV.
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Speaker 1: I have it because I'm in the press boy, right,
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Speaker 1: so I can see everybody on the field.
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Speaker 3: Now you can see it, But me watching on TV.
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Speaker 3: I tend not to comment on that stuff unless I've
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Speaker 3: talked to someone who watched the tape right immediately. You know,
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Speaker 3: sometimes you get access to people. But yeah, the Eagles
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Speaker 3: came out trying to run. I hate to establish a run,
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Speaker 3: but the conditions almost mandated it. The guts for thirty
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Speaker 3: two to thirty five miles an hour throughout the game.
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Speaker 3: The wind was eighteen to twenty miles an hour. But
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Speaker 3: if the gusts man at the link with the crosswinds
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Speaker 3: is a pain in the ass to try to throw it. Technically,
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Speaker 3: for the Eagle's sake, there wasn't as they didn't have
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Speaker 3: to make any fourth down decisions where they're going to
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Speaker 3: go for it or not because they got up so
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Speaker 3: big early that pass run ratio was out of whack.
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Speaker 3: In the first half, the run Eagles almost dominated two
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Speaker 3: to one time in possession. That that's when you know
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Speaker 3: you're doing well. And Hurts was pulled to get through
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Speaker 3: the offense in the fourth quarter. For tann and McKey,
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Speaker 3: I would say that there were they and also important
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Speaker 3: this so out there's some defensive breakdowns where God got
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Speaker 3: wide open uncovered. That can't happen. Yeah, and you know
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Speaker 3: you saw you saw the the pop pass for the touchdown.
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Speaker 3: You saw the RPO. God has got to catch that
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Speaker 3: right in his hands right there, right there. It's like,
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Speaker 3: come on, I know he was going forward. He took
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Speaker 3: his he took his head off of it. Yeah, that
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Speaker 3: was bad. But the cool thing is, look, he only
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Speaker 3: Hurts only dropped back probably teen or nineteen times, only
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Speaker 3: had fifteen attempts, but completely twelve out of fifteen several
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Speaker 3: for big plays. The absolute dime. He had two dimes.
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Speaker 3: The big one to DeVante was a great throw and
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Speaker 3: the slam for the touchdown.
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Speaker 2: J J.
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Speaker 3: Brown actually hit two slants. The first one was not thrown.
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Speaker 3: It got on him, but he put it on the
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Speaker 3: wrong shoulder. We've talked about this. The Eagles have the
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Speaker 3: worst yards after the catch. Yes, some of it's on
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Speaker 3: the offensive corderion design and some of it's on Hurt's
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Speaker 3: not putting it. You always want the pass start to
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Speaker 3: never stop his motion. You want this guy to go
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Speaker 3: whoever it's to. I cannot tell you how many personnel
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Speaker 3: people have told me this. They don't all see it
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Speaker 3: hurts the same way. It's very interesting. That's like an
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Speaker 3: off season thirty for thirty on the thoughts on hurts
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Speaker 3: around the league. But they all see the same thing.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't put it accurately where it needs to be. Actually,
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Speaker 3: not just his composite number. That's about half of it.
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Speaker 3: The all twenty two which the truth steer him will
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Speaker 3: tell you. It tells you the ball's got to be here,
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Speaker 3: not here. It slows the guy out. In fact, that
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Speaker 3: might have been ten or fifteen extra yards, but the
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Speaker 3: defender got him. But nevertheless, herts was fine, played well,
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Speaker 3: But we we lean on teaching here. It's not a
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Speaker 3: fan this is not talk Rady. We actually try to
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Speaker 3: teach people the game here and this is what the
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Speaker 3: tape shows.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I also on the on the more positive side
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Speaker 1: for him. So being at the stadium, the wind was
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Speaker 1: clearly blowing hard. Obviously in one direction. It was blowing
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Speaker 1: toward the north end zone. So the Eagles had their
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Speaker 1: wind at their backs in the first and the fourth quarters, right,
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Speaker 1: So that's when he threw his long pass to Devonte
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Speaker 1: Smith and the twenty seven yard er Tavy Brown. It
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Speaker 1: was going toward the so and I have to think
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Speaker 1: on a day where you're not throwing the ball much,
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Speaker 1: that was a calculated decision that when the wind is
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Speaker 1: at my back, I will put the ball. Oh, even
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Speaker 1: though a J Brown the defensive pass interference, right, those
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Speaker 1: were all towards the same direction of the field. And
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Speaker 1: when they were going into the wind, that's when you
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Speaker 1: saw much shorter Ours get the ball to Goddard. They
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Speaker 1: tried to run even if they tried to theoretically throw
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Speaker 1: the ball, or should have thrown the ball a little
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Speaker 1: more because Parkley had a lot of zero and minuses
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Speaker 1: in that timeframe. But it was all part of what
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Speaker 1: I believe to be as a calculated decision to use
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Speaker 1: the wind at your advantage when you had it, and
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Speaker 1: then just limit your mistakes when it was into your face.
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Speaker 1: Because you could see both quarterbacks really couldn't put the
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Speaker 1: ball in the air at times throughout the game, and
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Speaker 1: so I thought that was smart on Jillen Hurts's part
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Speaker 1: to really take the chances when he had the wind
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Speaker 1: at his back.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I would have this on Hurts, which I really liked. Man,
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Speaker 3: when he's decisive, he's got such a strong arm. It's like, dude,
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Speaker 3: when it's defined well for him, that ball comes out,
12:41
Speaker 3: he looks like a top five quarterback. I'm not saying
12:43
Speaker 3: he's a top five quarter but he looks. It looks
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Speaker 3: the part. It looks just like you wanted to look.
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Speaker 3: You saw it in the Charger game. I understand the
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Speaker 3: five turnovers, That's not what I'm talking about. We isi
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Speaker 3: throws on these shows, man, We're not doing talk radio.
12:54
Speaker 3: We want you to see what it needs to look
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Speaker 3: like when it's really good. Man. I mean again, yeah,
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Speaker 3: what the first slant needed to be here? Not here,
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Speaker 3: but still he he got. He was decisive. That's all
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Speaker 3: you need from him. They're gonna win most games when
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Speaker 3: he's decisive. I'm telling you, this is a year you
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Speaker 3: can make a run in the playoffs. It's still wide
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Speaker 3: open no matter what people think. There are no dominant teams.
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Speaker 3: No one's even close to dominant, you know, right, right,
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Speaker 3: And egos to the thing is the Eagles have really
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Speaker 3: good pass targets, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, absolutely, I mean, you know, again, try not
13:27
Speaker 1: to make too much of one gaming as a really
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Speaker 1: bad team. But you know, everybody was talking about twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty three where they played bad against bad teams. Well,
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Speaker 1: that didn't happen. The defense has been too good. And
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Speaker 1: offensively they did with that. Oh by the way, seventy
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Speaker 1: seven percent conversion rate on third down, the third down
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Speaker 1: offensive finally showing up. But again that's such an outlier,
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Speaker 1: right because they average thirty eight thirty four percent for
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Speaker 1: the year, which is one of the worst of football.
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Speaker 1: That you don't look at seventy seven percent and saying
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Speaker 1: that that's more like it. No, that's because you're going
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Speaker 1: up against the Raiders, who was terrible, Like you said,
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Speaker 1: so many breakdowns over the middle to leave god it
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Speaker 1: wide open and.
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Speaker 3: Then the other one would be. It looked like to
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Speaker 3: me now that this one seemed rather obvious, a lot
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Speaker 3: of twelve personnel look.
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Speaker 1: Like and thirteen at probably more thirteen than they seem
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Speaker 1: like a lot too.
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Speaker 3: We don't get the snaff counts until extremely for five am,
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Speaker 3: but the next day. But it looked like a lots
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Speaker 3: was in there.
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Speaker 2: A lot it did? It did. Yeah, they played a
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Speaker 2: lot of thirteen.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I would love to see them just play more
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Speaker 1: twelve personnel with lat too instead of Calcatara.
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Speaker 3: Of course we all do.
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Speaker 1: Grant was on the field quite a bit, and again
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Speaker 1: you saw a lot of zero yard runs negative two
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Speaker 1: yard run, Yeah, two yard runs. And every time you're
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Speaker 1: looking at the like the pile unfold and you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: there's there's Calcutara out there.
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Speaker 2: Well, I feel like it's not his fault. He's just
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Speaker 2: that's not what he he's supposed to do.
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Speaker 3: It's just it's I'll say it again, it's one of
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Speaker 3: the few times I'll talk about bad coaching. It's one
14:53
Speaker 3: of the few times the medium and fans are right.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we do the Patreon chat every Tuesday, Judy
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Speaker 3: comes in, when's it gonna She keeps asking, when's it
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Speaker 3: going to change? I don't have access to Syriana. I
15:05
Speaker 3: don't know, or I just don't know. You know, it's
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Speaker 3: one thing. As we've said before, it's one thing. If
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Speaker 3: they throw the Kaka Tarra like five targets a game,
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Speaker 3: they don't throw to him at all, and he doesn't
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Speaker 3: block very well exactly.
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Speaker 1: There was a time where you could justify it because
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Speaker 1: he would come through with three to four catches a game,
15:21
Speaker 1: but not this year. In fact, I can't remember the
15:24
Speaker 1: last time he had two catches in a game. I
15:26
Speaker 1: can go check that really quickly while we're talking. But
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's mind boggling to me. They gotta
15:32
Speaker 1: do it with an intent. There's a reason they're doing it,
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Speaker 1: of course. I I just can't understand.
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Speaker 2: Figure it out. I mean, yeah, you know, I know.
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Speaker 3: Coaches will say, well, sometimes you want the defense to
15:41
Speaker 3: think that you go throw to him or he's a
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Speaker 3: pass target, but they don't throw to him. That's the
15:46
Speaker 3: problem with it. I'll never because Nick has been asked
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Speaker 3: about it and he never gives a straight answer, and
15:53
Speaker 3: Petula talks around everything. He doesn't Sometimes he dresses stuff
15:57
Speaker 3: and sometimes he doesn't, and they're not going to criticize
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Speaker 3: cop the fact that he can't even if he's playing
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Speaker 3: the position, which is you'll see him, he'll play behind
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Speaker 3: Goddard because you really can't play online. And then the crossblock.
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Speaker 3: I put this in my notes, I text you first
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Speaker 3: quarter lotso on the cross block is a crossblock full
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Speaker 3: back where he crosses the grain. He totally missed the
16:19
Speaker 3: guy and Barkley got I'm like, that's a tough block.
16:22
Speaker 3: Did you get didn't you do the show with inside
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Speaker 3: the tape a couple of weeks ago and or no?
16:27
Speaker 3: Or is it Patreon? When Frank asked about are we
16:30
Speaker 3: asking the offensive lineman or players to make tough block?
16:34
Speaker 3: That's a perfect example of it.
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Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
16:37
Speaker 1: It's they're being asked to make blocks that they just
16:39
Speaker 1: physically cannot make. And honestly, and again we'll talk to
16:42
Speaker 1: Greg on it. Just being able to watch from the
16:44
Speaker 1: vantage point, I had looked like Calcuterra and not Calte
16:47
Speaker 1: Jurgens was struggling at times just to get his body
16:50
Speaker 1: on guys.
16:51
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's rough.
16:53
Speaker 1: I mean, Dickerson was out there, but I didn't feel
16:55
Speaker 1: like he was mauling people like you expect Landon Dickerson too.
16:58
Speaker 1: So that's the part that this hasn't changed, and I
17:00
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to change as we move forward.
17:03
Speaker 1: The last thing I wanted to really highlight on defense
17:06
Speaker 1: was sort of the signature vic Fangio. I'm just going
17:11
Speaker 1: to rush for drop seven. I'm not even sure he
17:14
Speaker 1: ran too many sims. I was looking to see if
17:17
Speaker 1: Nikobe Dean. There were a couple of times Dean took
17:19
Speaker 1: a step on third down towards scrimmage, but then he
17:22
Speaker 1: would just back up. I don't even think they sent
17:24
Speaker 1: Nikobe too often. Maybe once or twice on a sim.
17:27
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm very curious to see tomorrow, you know,
17:31
Speaker 1: when the snaps come out and then the NFL Pro
17:34
Speaker 1: stuff like on what what s blitz percentage? If they
17:37
Speaker 1: had in this game, I'd be shocked if it was
17:38
Speaker 1: anything higher than eight.
17:42
Speaker 2: Well, I mean last week was nine percent and I
17:44
Speaker 2: remember them, but so I.
17:45
Speaker 3: Thought it would be low in this game because think
17:47
Speaker 3: about it, they got Stone forsythe as left tackle. He's like,
17:50
Speaker 3: as Greg said, he's like a number three tackle. Number
17:54
Speaker 3: four Kappa was caught by look, he's he's he should
17:59
Speaker 3: be star arding, but they don't have anybody else but
18:03
Speaker 3: the GM had him in Tampa, but he's a backup.
18:07
Speaker 3: And the Glaze Kid's okay. The one solid player they
18:10
Speaker 3: have is deal In param who's their left guard. So
18:13
Speaker 3: clearly and with a past target group other than other
18:17
Speaker 3: than Bowers, who you're worried about, You're not worried about
18:19
Speaker 3: Tyler Locket, who's in near the end of his career.
18:21
Speaker 3: Trey Tucker should be a four best, doesn't run that well,
18:24
Speaker 3: but he's a big possession receiver. And Genty it is
18:28
Speaker 3: just he has an old school running style and that's
18:31
Speaker 3: not what teams are looking for anywhere. With Pete carrol Is.
18:34
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like you see Genty get the ball,
18:38
Speaker 3: you go he has no chance, Here's no chance. Yeah,
18:42
Speaker 3: And they just dominated the energy, was fantastic on defense.
18:47
Speaker 3: Good good for them being at home. What else can
18:51
Speaker 3: you say about the defense? They shut him out by
18:53
Speaker 3: the way, only seventy five total yards. They played a
18:56
Speaker 3: near perfect game, and Jaylex Shunt, I gotta tell you
18:59
Speaker 3: get better and better and better. It's just a really
19:03
Speaker 3: I thought he'd be I thought his upside'd be better than
19:05
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Speaker 3: He's just getting really really good.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're right.
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Speaker 1: I mean I understand that because he's way better athlete, right,
23:01
Speaker 1: and he comes with no damaged limbs or anything like that,
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Speaker 1: or or past injuries that we know about. I'm not
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Speaker 1: out way better than Josh Sweat, which is why he
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Speaker 1: was drafted higher than Josh Sweat.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I think you're right.
23:18
Speaker 1: Athletic upside probably could lead, but he's got to still
23:21
Speaker 1: get refined.
23:22
Speaker 2: But he plays so hard.
23:24
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's in on almost everything, he clapses
23:27
Speaker 1: the pocket. So once he really learns finishing moves, and
23:29
Speaker 1: obviously having Brandon there in the locker room with him
23:32
Speaker 1: probably helps out, he'll he'll he'll start to continue to
23:35
Speaker 1: do that.
23:35
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm really impressed with.
23:37
Speaker 1: How he plays this as a second year player who
23:39
Speaker 1: like five years ago as a safety and is now
23:41
Speaker 1: an edge.
23:42
Speaker 3: It's insane. Ni Kobe again, I don't know if he
23:46
Speaker 3: will have to see if I saw one quasi blitz,
23:50
Speaker 3: but we'll see if he gets credit for just a pressure.
23:53
Speaker 3: Jomo had a sack. He's had a really really good year.
23:56
Speaker 3: Nold Smith had the conversion sack. That was when they
24:00
Speaker 3: went they converged and he got it. Yep, that was
24:02
Speaker 3: pretty good. Uh, Jalen failed for people asking, He's been fine,
24:06
Speaker 3: You're not gonna have a great game every game, but
24:08
Speaker 3: he had. He had a minimum of two quarterback pressures
24:10
Speaker 3: in the game. He did well and then honestly Coop
24:14
Speaker 3: and they completely shut down any anything that Kenny Pick
24:19
Speaker 3: had tried to do. Pick it looked like he was
24:20
Speaker 3: completely lost. He was just he seemed defeated. By halftime.
24:24
Speaker 3: They were in his space, they couldn't protect him, and
24:27
Speaker 3: it was just a nightmare game. And this is one
24:29
Speaker 3: of those situations, as you said at the top here,
24:32
Speaker 3: we could put it all out. Everything we see in
24:33
Speaker 3: all everything we knew. We just put it all out
24:35
Speaker 3: there there. There were no injuries listed. I believe in
24:40
Speaker 3: game we gave you the two that we saw with
24:42
Speaker 3: Hurts in the left ankle got bent back, but he
24:44
Speaker 3: he was okay. Yeah, they're in a short week. We'll
24:47
Speaker 3: see if they miss any practice time, but we know
24:49
Speaker 3: they're going to go Barkley with a neck. Hopefully it's
24:52
Speaker 3: not a stinger. He came back in, so hopefully it's fine.
24:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think since he came back in, and he.
24:57
Speaker 3: Came back in, he came back in, but you know
24:58
Speaker 3: he was trying to work it out, but not it's
25:00
Speaker 3: just a it was a workman like game. I thought
25:02
Speaker 3: you set that up really well. Yeah, and they ablutely dominated.
25:04
Speaker 3: It's it's probably what the coaches would have liked. Anytime
25:07
Speaker 3: you could pull the starters early in the fourth quarter
25:09
Speaker 3: and and it's without even know the score, but you
25:12
Speaker 3: know it's for a good reason. You know you're blowing
25:14
Speaker 3: the team out, and that's what it was.
25:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the lead to my story, I got
25:17
Speaker 1: a little cute. I said, it finally happened the Eagles bench.
25:20
Speaker 2: Jalen hurts, but I wrote, but for a good reason,
25:25
Speaker 2: that won't be a controversy.
25:26
Speaker 1: That's right, real quick, as we look forward to this week, obviously,
25:30
Speaker 1: the Commanders on Saturday, so it is another short turnaround
25:33
Speaker 1: game for the Eagles.
25:36
Speaker 2: All eyes are on Lane Johnson and Jalen Carter.
25:39
Speaker 1: You have to see if they're able to get out
25:40
Speaker 1: on the practice field to see if they can get back,
25:43
Speaker 1: because they'll probably need him. Give the Commander's credit, you know,
25:46
Speaker 1: they give the Broncos a great game.
25:48
Speaker 2: Should have won it two weeks ago.
25:49
Speaker 1: Lost then they got humiliated by the Vikings, and everybody thought,
25:53
Speaker 1: well they're packing it in. Well, no, they came back
25:55
Speaker 1: and beat the Giants. Not that that's special, but they
25:58
Speaker 1: showed up. They beat the Giants. So I guarantee you
26:01
Speaker 1: they're not looking at their game against the Eagles as
26:03
Speaker 1: just some game. I mean, that's the team that beat
26:05
Speaker 1: them last year, and then it's a championship game.
26:07
Speaker 2: They're trying to play hard.
26:09
Speaker 1: They're trying to find out about young guys like this,
26:11
Speaker 1: uh Bill Bill Crosskey merit did I pronounce that right?
26:15
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he calls himself Bill, but he has
26:17
Speaker 3: exactly right. Yeah. He Rodriquez, Chris Rodriguez had a growny jury.
26:22
Speaker 3: He's been their their starter because they they're talking to them.
26:25
Speaker 3: They want to power run game when Mariota plays, because
26:27
Speaker 3: they don't Mario drop it back a lot. Right Now,
26:30
Speaker 3: we'll see about Daniels. He reinjured that they left the
26:32
Speaker 3: dislocation that left elbow. He reinjured his elbow, so you
26:35
Speaker 3: got yeah, I got to see if he's ready.
26:36
Speaker 2: Now.
26:37
Speaker 3: The practice week will be Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and the
26:40
Speaker 3: walker will be on Friday where they leave for Washington,
26:43
Speaker 3: the nation's capital. They used to take a train there,
26:46
Speaker 3: but I think they fly there, actually do they?
26:48
Speaker 2: I did I realize that?
26:49
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, oh yeah, they used to take uh
26:52
Speaker 3: they used to take these take Yeah.
26:54
Speaker 2: I remember that. I just didn't realize they started flying there. Yeah.
26:57
Speaker 3: The last time I asked flying there, what's that?
26:59
Speaker 2: I'm just probably almost makes to say why, but yeah.
27:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably forty five minute flight. You know, it's funny.
27:04
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's thirty five minutes, which is comical.
27:06
Speaker 2: I know, it is really interesting. Yeah, McLaurin, by the way,
27:09
Speaker 2: had to touch.
27:09
Speaker 1: That means he's kind of come on since he's come back,
27:11
Speaker 1: So it's to me. As bad as the Commanders are,
27:14
Speaker 1: it's it's a different level. They're way better than the Raiders,
27:17
Speaker 1: so it's.
27:17
Speaker 3: A different level bad.
27:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different level of bad.
27:20
Speaker 1: They're they're they're not completely inept at every single thing
27:23
Speaker 1: that they want, and their offensive line is pretty decent,
27:25
Speaker 1: so it'll be it'll be interesting, all right. So we'll
27:28
Speaker 1: have plenty of coverage this week. Well inside the tape
27:30
Speaker 1: left to check out dailies. We'll have Bird's Weeklies, we'll
27:34
Speaker 1: have all the usual suspects, Sam Finkel, inside the data.
27:38
Speaker 1: As you know, we just want to say, hey, thanks
27:40
Speaker 1: to everybody for all the great I mean we our
27:42
Speaker 1: number has been great. Uh now the Eagles back for
27:45
Speaker 1: a win, maybe they'll be even better to our Patreon following,
27:47
Speaker 1: they've been unbelievable and we look forward to another week
27:51
Speaker 1: of great Eagles coverage. So that'll do it for this
27:54
Speaker 1: edition of Inside the Bird's post game Show. For Adam Kaplan,
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