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The Kincora Pedophile Ring_ Ireland's DARKEST Secret · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: dark dive. So everybody, welcome back to episode three of
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  Speaker 1: As I've said before, I love conspiracies. Conspiracies are like
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  Speaker 1: document modern history. You know, we're analyzing and gathering all
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  Speaker 1: look at old history stories that for the longest time,
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  Speaker 1: this is the story, nobody questioned it, this is what happened,
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  Speaker 1: and you get to look at these facts and look
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  Speaker 1: at the actual facts of the case beyond just the
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  Speaker 1: cover story, and you get to almost change history. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna be doing today with a really
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  Speaker 1: really disturbing episode. And this week we're gonna be talking
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  Speaker 1: about a secret pedophile ring, a huge scandal that happened
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  Speaker 1: in Europe, and the implications that all of this has.
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  Speaker 1: This goes all the way up to the government. It's
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  Speaker 1: got some really really disturbing details, and I think this
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  Speaker 1: would fundamentally change the way that we talk about history,
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  Speaker 1: especially in Ireland, when we examine what exactly happened here
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  Speaker 1: with the kin Korus scandal. This is something that I
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  Speaker 1: had never heard of before I started researching all this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and this story and the evidence behind the story is
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  Speaker 1: seriously going to make you question authority, the exact vastness
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  Speaker 1: of this cover up and how many victims and what
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  Speaker 1: they allowed to happen, and who hasn't been brought to justice.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is just crazy, so let's dig into it, guys. Also,
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  Speaker 1: to tell stories that you guys care about too. So
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  Speaker 1: in the late nineteen sixties, a centuries old powder keg
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  Speaker 1: of political and religious tension was lit in Northern Ireland,
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  Speaker 1: sparking decades of sectarian violence and upheaval. The thirty year period,
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  Speaker 1: which you may be familiar with, known as the Troubles,
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  Speaker 1: left Northern Ireland's people to live with daily threats of
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  Speaker 1: car bombings, riots, please brutality, violence, and the constant anxiety
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  Speaker 1: of an uncertain future. So the Troubles were an extremely
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  Speaker 1: troubling time. We can get into the whole history of that,
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  Speaker 1: but that's not what we're talking about today. During the troubles,
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  Speaker 1: Paramilitary groups plotted domestic terrorism, British troops stood on city corners,
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  Speaker 1: and civilians were caught in a crossfire of a vicious
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  Speaker 1: and deeply rooted conflict that seemed to have no end
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  Speaker 1: in sight and no path to a peaceful resolution. People
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  Speaker 1: were dying everywhere. This was an extremely bloody conflict amongst
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  Speaker 1: the peoples of Ireland and the United Kingdom as a
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  Speaker 1: whole themselves, I mean extremely dark stuff. But amidst the
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  Speaker 1: explosions and riots, a quieter horror was brewing in an
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  Speaker 1: unsuspecting building tucked away in Belfast, the capital of Northern Ireland.
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  Speaker 1: The king Kora Boys Home, a supposed place of safe
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  Speaker 1: housing for young boys and troubled teens, was not the
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  Speaker 1: safe haven that it should have been. Instead, three senior
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  Speaker 1: staff members sexually abused at least twenty nine boys during
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  Speaker 1: their time there, abandoning their duty to care for these
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  Speaker 1: boys and instead subjecting them to persistent trauma. Though rumors
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  Speaker 1: would circulate for nearly a decade about the awful things
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  Speaker 1: happening at Kingcorra, police and officials time and time again
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  Speaker 1: failed to investigate. They basically turned a blind eye to
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  Speaker 1: this pedophile ring that was operating right under their noses,
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  Speaker 1: and it would be years before a local newspaper article
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  Speaker 1: finally broke the case wide open and halted the abuse.
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  Speaker 1: But the story only got worse from there. Though the
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  Speaker 1: three men responsible for the atrocious acts would eventually be
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  Speaker 1: convicted and jailed, many of the victims and their communities
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  Speaker 1: would come to believe that King Cora hadn't just been
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  Speaker 1: a failure, it had been a deliberate cover up directly
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  Speaker 1: tied to the violence of the troubles, had unleashed victims
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  Speaker 1: and government officials called for inquiries as evidence began to mount,
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  Speaker 1: suggesting that not only had police and British officials both
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  Speaker 1: heard about the abuse, and they knew about the abuse,
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  Speaker 1: but they had let it continue to protect what they
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  Speaker 1: viewed as incredible and important intelligence assets. In particular, they
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  Speaker 1: had protected the most vicious of all the King Korra abusers,
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  Speaker 1: William McGrath, a man with deep ties to paramilitary groups
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  Speaker 1: and political leaders. The story gets dark, Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: digging into the case, voices from MI five operatives or
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  Speaker 1: the British CIA, kin coor victims and even the abusers
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  Speaker 1: themselves paint a terrifying picture. Of corruption, abuse and failure.
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  Speaker 1: Is it possible that there's a truth even worse than
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  Speaker 1: the official story of three lone men abusing boys under
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  Speaker 1: the nose of the police. Is it possible that the
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  Speaker 1: abusers were not only a part of a larger pedophile
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  Speaker 1: network operating in Northern Ireland, but they were protected by
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  Speaker 1: the officials and the military for the sake of gathering intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: Did the boys of King Kora become unwilling victims of
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  Speaker 1: not only sexual abuse but also of the immoral and
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  Speaker 1: unstoppable machines of politics and violence. We may be closer
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  Speaker 1: to answers than we realize. That's why today on the
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  Speaker 1: Conspiracy Files, we're lifting up the voices of King Kora
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  Speaker 1: and beginning to uncover a truth that's been hidden for
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  Speaker 1: far too long, but perhaps only hidden just below the surface.
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  Speaker 1: There's a weird noise and hear something, something moved them
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  Speaker 1: in my Haunted Objects room. So this story is gonna
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  Speaker 1: get dark, and once again want to offer a listener
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  Speaker 1: viewer discretion warning, because the stuff that we're going to
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  Speaker 1: cover in this podcast, like I said before, is deeply
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  Speaker 1: disturbing and you might come out changed. You might hear
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  Speaker 1: about this stuff and learn about this stuff and think, hmm,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I don't trust the government of the world as
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  Speaker 1: much as I once did. But anyways, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: the official story. That's how we do it on this show.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna give you the official story. We're then going
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  Speaker 1: to give you the story of the conspiracy or what
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  Speaker 1: may have happened, what people think actually happened. Then we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go through the evidence showing that the conspiracy might
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  Speaker 1: be closer to the truth than the official story. So
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  Speaker 1: let's dig into it. Like so many conspiracies, kin Kora
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  Speaker 1: is connected to the politics in time that it occurred in.
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  Speaker 1: Though the Troubles began in the late nineteen sixties, the
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  Speaker 1: tensions and conflicts that simmered over date much farther back
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  Speaker 1: to when the first English occupiers arrived in Ireland in
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  Speaker 1: the twelveth century. Their presence in Ireland, in particular its
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  Speaker 1: northern region, kicked off centuries of sectarian disagreements over religion
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  Speaker 1: and British rule. While an entire course could be dedicated
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  Speaker 1: to the history of England and Ireland and the political
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  Speaker 1: and religious differences that led to the violence of the Troubles,
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  Speaker 1: it can be summed up in this short, succinct way.
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  Speaker 1: The Catholics of Ireland, and particularly of Northern Ireland, considered
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  Speaker 1: themselves wholly Irish and wished to be free of any
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  Speaker 1: form of British rule. They hated the British. The Protestants,
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  Speaker 1: on the other hand, wished to remain united to Britain
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  Speaker 1: and her monarchy. So there was a distinct split in
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  Speaker 1: Irish people in their ideology. Some wanted the British, some
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  Speaker 1: hated the British. The Catholics in favor of breaking from
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  Speaker 1: the British were known as Nationalists, while the Protestants in
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  Speaker 1: favor of remaining with Britain were known as the Loyalists.
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  Speaker 1: After centuries of disagreement and intermittent conflict, Ireland was partitioned
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty one, leaving six of its counties together
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  Speaker 1: in a separate state called Northern ice Ireland connected to England,
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  Speaker 1: while the rest of the country Ireland gained its right
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  Speaker 1: to autonomous rule. So Northern Ireland is basically an extension
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  Speaker 1: of England. Ireland itself is Ireland. Though the Act had
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  Speaker 1: freed the majority of Ireland from British rule, it did
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  Speaker 1: little to alleviate much of the tension that was already
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  Speaker 1: there in Northern Ireland. In that area, Protestants far outnumbered Catholics,
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  Speaker 1: who experienced prejudice and discrimination. For decades following that nineteen
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  Speaker 1: twenty one partition that divided the country, Northern Ireland remained
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  Speaker 1: mired in persistent political and religious disagreements. There were troubles,
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  Speaker 1: you could say. And in the nineteen sixties the Catholic
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  Speaker 1: minority took notice of the peaceful civil rights movement in
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  Speaker 1: the US and it began to organize similar efforts. But
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  Speaker 1: passionate Protestant groups took issue with these efforts and several
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  Speaker 1: Catholic marches and demonstrations were violently ended by Loyalists and
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  Speaker 1: the Royal Ulster Constabulary, Northern Ireland's police force. I Hope
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  Speaker 1: I said that right in nineteen sixty nine, specifically, a
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  Speaker 1: Protestant march purposely went through the predominantly Catholic Bogside area
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  Speaker 1: outside of Derry, sparking three days of intense and violent riots.
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  Speaker 1: During that time, over fifteen hundred Catholic homes were burned
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  Speaker 1: to the ground and the British military was called in
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  Speaker 1: to end the conflict. So the loyalists called in the
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  Speaker 1: British and that just pissed off the nationalists. Largely recognized
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  Speaker 1: as the beginning of the Troubles. Those riots where the
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  Speaker 1: Catholic homes were burned down kicked off decades of British
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  Speaker 1: Army occupation in Northern Ireland. While many of the Catholics
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  Speaker 1: of Northern Ireland were at first relieved that the army
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  Speaker 1: had been called in to quell the violence, they soon
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  Speaker 1: found that the military forces were biased and sometimes extremely brutal,
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  Speaker 1: and their presence only worsened matters and made people more angry.
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  Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy two Catholics marching peacefully through Darry were
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  Speaker 1: forced to disband by British forces, and when they refused,
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  Speaker 1: they were fired upon by both rubber bullets and live
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  Speaker 1: rounds they were shooting protesters. That day, the British Army
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  Speaker 1: killed thirteen of those protesters and wounded seventeen in an
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  Speaker 1: event known as Bloody Sunday. In addition to the British
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  Speaker 1: armed forces, Northern Ireland also saw an increase in both
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  Speaker 1: loyalist and nationalist paramilitary groups during the sixties and seventies,
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  Speaker 1: so all sides were sending in troops. These protests were
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  Speaker 1: turning violent. People were killing each other and it would
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  Speaker 1: only get worse from there. Some of the most notable
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  Speaker 1: of these forces include the Irish Republican Army or the
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  Speaker 1: IRA you've probably heard of that before an Ulster Volunteer
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  Speaker 1: Force or UVF. Paramilitary groups on both sides orchestrated illegal
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  Speaker 1: car bombings, riots, sniper attacks, and increasing acts of civil
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  Speaker 1: disobedience and violence, and as the troubles wore on, the
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  Speaker 1: British Army and intelligence services worked to learn more about
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  Speaker 1: the groups and the potential terrorist threats plaguing Northern Ireland,
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  Speaker 1: often through covert means, meaning this is the age of
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  Speaker 1: Irish and British spies. All in all, the thirty years
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  Speaker 1: of violence or the Troubles would kill more than three thousand,
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  Speaker 1: five hundred people, half of those people's civilians, and thirty
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  Speaker 1: thousand and more would be wounded. But the troubles finally
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  Speaker 1: came to an end in nineteen ninety eight with the
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  Speaker 1: signing of the Good Friday Agreement, which outlined plans for
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  Speaker 1: power sharing in Northern Ireland and the future relations between
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  Speaker 1: Britain and Ireland Nowadays, obviously it's simmered down quite a bit,
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  Speaker 1: but some of that anger is still there. But before
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  Speaker 1: this piece was established and the decades of the troubles
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  Speaker 1: were wearing on, when the violence was plaguing the streets
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  Speaker 1: of Ireland, Northern Irelanders did their best to continue in
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  Speaker 1: their daily lives amidst roadblocks, constant military presences and the
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  Speaker 1: threat of being wounded or killed every day on your
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  Speaker 1: way to work. This is when we get to the
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  Speaker 1: Kincora Boys Home. So the kingkor A Boy's Home opened
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty eight and the white building in Belfast
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  Speaker 1: was housing for boys leaving abusive homes or otherwise unsuitable
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  Speaker 1: living situations. The Kingkorra Boys Home would remain open until
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty when the public learned that during their stay
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  Speaker 1: at least twenty nine boys had been sexually abused by
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  Speaker 1: three male senior staff members, William McGrath the house master,
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  Speaker 1: Joseph Mainz the warden, and Raymond Simple the assistant warden.
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  Speaker 1: So the exact offenses that were carried out against these
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  Speaker 1: children are too graphic to describe here. I will get
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  Speaker 1: demonetized and my videos will be taken down on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: But it's truly abhorrent, disturbing stuff, and these boys had
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  Speaker 1: to live the rest of their lives after these events
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  Speaker 1: with the memories of what had happened to them in
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  Speaker 1: that boy's home. I mean, it's really really disgusting, disturbing stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And several of these boys have gone on the record
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  Speaker 1: talking about how horrific it was being sexually assaulted by
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  Speaker 1: these men and having to live with them. So they
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  Speaker 1: were living with their abusers, they'd have to see them
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  Speaker 1: all throughout every single day of the week, every week
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  Speaker 1: of the month, every month of the year while they
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  Speaker 1: lived there. One specific boy who testified was Clinton Massey.
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  Speaker 1: He was just sixteen years old when he was brought
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  Speaker 1: to King Kora, and it wasn't long before the housemaster,
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  Speaker 1: William McGrath, began to abuse him. He recounted, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want my mother to think of bad things that happened
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  Speaker 1: to me. I didn't want to put any guilt onto
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  Speaker 1: this woman, and up until she died, I always let
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  Speaker 1: her believe that I was okay in there. After my
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  Speaker 1: first night there, though, the next morning that's when it
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  Speaker 1: all started. I was totally stunned by what happened. I
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  Speaker 1: had no comprehension of anything. Why did I not resist?
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  Speaker 1: Why did I not fight back. I couldn't fight back.
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  Speaker 1: This person was officially my guardian. I could just not
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  Speaker 1: fight back against him, this all powerful man. Though rumors
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  Speaker 1: and reports of this abuse circulated amongst local officials for years,
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  Speaker 1: no help ever arrived. Nobody ever came to check on
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  Speaker 1: the boys, and the boys of Kincora were forced to
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  Speaker 1: live with their abusers until the story finally broke in
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  Speaker 1: the Irish Independent in nineteen eighty. Keep in mind, this
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  Speaker 1: boy's home was opened in nineteen fifty eight, so that's
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  Speaker 1: about twenty two years that the stuff was happening here
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  Speaker 1: that was going unchecked. The article's author, Peter McKenna, did
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  Speaker 1: more than just uncover the crimes. He alleged that the
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  Speaker 1: perpetrators and their activities had purposefully been hidden from the
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  Speaker 1: public through a cover up, and that the abusers had
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  Speaker 1: been connected to a larger pedophile ring outside of the home.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the quote from McKenna's report. A major scandal erupted
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  Speaker 1: in Northern Ireland last night on allegations of an official
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  Speaker 1: cover up over the recruiting of boys at a Belfast
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  Speaker 1: children's home for homosexual prostitution. The shock allegations about the
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  Speaker 1: home on the outskirts of the city resulted in a
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  Speaker 1: police report being sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions,
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  Speaker 1: but no action was taken and reports on certain cases
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  Speaker 1: were destroyed under orders from a senior member of the
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  Speaker 1: Social Services Department. It is claimed, so this article, when
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  Speaker 1: it was published, led to an investigation and the arrest
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  Speaker 1: of those three King Chorus staff members that were involved.
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  Speaker 1: So McGrath, the housemaster was imprisoned for four years. Only
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  Speaker 1: for four years, which is crazy simple. The assistant warden
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  Speaker 1: was imprisoned for five years, and means the warden was
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  Speaker 1: imprisoned for six years, all paltry terms compared to the
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  Speaker 1: lifelong trauma of these men inflicted upon their victims. So
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  Speaker 1: King Korra itself was shuddered in nineteen eighty in the
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  Speaker 1: wake of the scandal and these reports coming out, and
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  Speaker 1: it would sit empty until it was finally demolished in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So the building's gone. They wanted to
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  Speaker 1: wipe this story off the face of the earth. But
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  Speaker 1: that's why we're here to talk about it because justice
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  Speaker 1: still has never been done here. So as King Korra
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  Speaker 1: the Boys Home sat in Belfast and time passed around it.
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  Speaker 1: The troubles came to an end, a new millennium began
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  Speaker 1: and rumors about the cover up slowly lost their traction.
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  Speaker 1: The victims and those involved still harbored their own questions
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  Speaker 1: about the case, but it seemed like there would never
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  Speaker 1: be any formal, real hardcore investigation into what happened to
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  Speaker 1: King Cora then. Though, in twenty twelve, just forty years
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  Speaker 1: after The Irish Independent broke the story about the boys Home,
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  Speaker 1: disturbing details emerged about Jimmy Saville, a well respected and
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  Speaker 1: popular British media personality. Jimmy Saville. I've talked about him
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  Speaker 1: on my TikTok extensively. He passed away in twenty eleven
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  Speaker 1: and he was known for his charity work, his eccentric
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  Speaker 1: personality and his close ties to the British royal family.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Saville was like a national hero. When he died,
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  Speaker 1: England had like a day of mourning. He had been
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  Speaker 1: knighted by the Queen. This dude was an A list celebrity,
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  Speaker 1: like one of the most popular people in England and
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, the worst pedophile in British history. Because
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  Speaker 1: after he died it came out that he had been
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  Speaker 1: sexually abusing women, children, all sorts of people throughout his
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  Speaker 1: entire career, and the evidence indicated that the BBC itself
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  Speaker 1: had been aware of the allegations but did nothing to
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  Speaker 1: pursue them. We could talk about Jimmy Saville for a
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  Speaker 1: long time, but that story is insane. These revelations about
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Savill's dark deeds hit Britain's hard. Savell had not
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  Speaker 1: only been one of the most well known media personalities
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  Speaker 1: of the twentieth century, but like I said, he was
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  Speaker 1: incredibly close to members of the royal family, including then
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  Speaker 1: Prince Charles, who was now the King. The depths of
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Savill's crimes are absolutely staggering. It's believed that over
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  Speaker 1: the decades he abused over five hundred victims. There's even
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  Speaker 1: stories of Jimmy Saville going into mortuaries and morgues and
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  Speaker 1: you know, doing things with the dead bodies that were
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  Speaker 1: in there. He was abusing this trust and his celebrity
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  Speaker 1: status getting with children, and I mean, it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: horrific stuff if you actually read into it, and I
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  Speaker 1: can make a whole episode about that. But once again,
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  Speaker 1: the British people were left in a state of shock
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  Speaker 1: and disgust, not only at the extent of Jimmy Savile's crimes,
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  Speaker 1: but at the thought that others in power had failed
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  Speaker 1: to stop him when they knew they should have and
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  Speaker 1: they had the evidence of what he was doing. And
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  Speaker 1: for some, the Jimmy Savile scandal had an unsettling amount
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: in common with Ken Kora, Let's talk about it. The
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: exposure of Jimmy's crimes led to calls for inquiry into
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the extent of institutional failings and the general nonchalance about
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: pursuing the accounts of child's sexual assault. That's when people
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: started to say, ken Korra, what the hell happened there?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: This is a case that's completely thought like this, but
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: it's unresolved. So the exposure of Jimmy Salvill's crimes led
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: to calls for an inquiry and to the extent of
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: institutional feelings and general nonchalance around pursuing alleged child sexual abuse.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: People had been coming forward for decades saying they were
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: molested abused when they were a child, and so many
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: times the police completely failed these kids and just didn't
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: investigate what they claimed happened. And obviously, people when they
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: were hearing about this thought of King Cora, because this
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: was a massive scandal in Ireland and there were no
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: real answers. I mean, there were some prison sentences, but
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: people knew that this whole thing went way deeper than
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it appeared to go on the surface. Many in Northern
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Ireland in fact, and in Great Britain at large, still
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: had concerns about the authenticity of the government's claims about
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: what happened at King Cora. Rumors had always circulated that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: there was more to Kingcorra than what was on the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: official record, but time and distance had shuddered the efforts
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: to uncover the truth. So the public outcry following the
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Savill story led the British government to establish the
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, or the IICSA, in
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Headed by Justice Lowell Goddard. The IICSA was
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: tasked with investigating major British institutions, including churches, schools, local authorities,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: police departments, to see if due diligence was being done
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to ensure that children were being kept safe from sexual abuse.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: But for some odd bizarre reason, despite pressure from both
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: victims officials, government officials and the public itself. It was
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: determined that King Korra and what happened there would not
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: be included in the IICSA inquiry. So this is a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: government body that is dedicated to investigating child sex abuse
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and holding people accountable for what they've done. I mean,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: that's just the start. It's going to get a lot
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: worse from her. So instead, Kincora would be wrapped into
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: a separate inquiry known as the Historical Institution Abuse, which
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: was looking into child abuse in residential institutions in Northern
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Ireland over a seventy three year period. So you think
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that that's good, right, that they're still investigating it, right,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: But critics feared that the HIA inquiry was not as
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: powerful as the IICSA investigation and that it would be
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: unable to compel witnesses to provide crucial information about the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: truth of Kincora. But requests to move the review to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the IICSA where it could be more meaningful we're all denied.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: In the end, the hi inquiry came to the same
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: conclusions that the officials had always stuck to about the case.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: The official story, there was no pedophile ring, there was
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: no cover up, and British intelligence services certainly hadn't been involved.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And while the failure of social officials to report the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: sex abuse was absolutely horrible, there wasn't anything more to it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Cancorra was a cut and dry example of apathy, but wasn't. No,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: noe was not. And now that you've heard the official story,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: think about this. Three men convicted of molesting twenty nine boys.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's the whole story. Nothing more happened there.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: That's what the government to this day is going with.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Now let's get into the conspiracy, or what we like
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to call here on the show, the truth. So when
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the news about Kincora broke in the Irish Independent in
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, the reporter alleged that the abuse was connected
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: to a larger pedophile ring and a government cover up.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So from its very start, questions have swirled about who
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: was involved and to what degree were they involved. And
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: while there's been a chorus of voices lending their version
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: of how exactly the cover up occurred, pretty much all
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: have pointed their finger at one principal player, William McGrath,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the house manager aside from being Kncorra's housemaster, and allegedly
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the most aggressive and pervasive of all the abusers in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the home. McGrath was a fascinatingly bizarre character and deeply
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: embedded in the loyalist politics in Northern Ireland. So keep
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: in mind the loyalists are the ones that are on
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the side of the British and the nationalists are the
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: ones fighting to keep Ireland Ireland. McGrath was tied in
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: with the British sympathizers the Protestants, passionately in favor of
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: keeping Northern Ireland firmly ensconced with England. William McGrath was
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: also the leader of Terra Tar, a loyalist paramilitary group.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Between that and his connections to prominent leaders to allege
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that William McGrath became a critical informant for I five,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Britain's intelligence agency, kind of like the CIA here in America.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: That's what MI five is. Some argue that William McGrath
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: was blackmailed into giving five information on loyalist groups, and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: others say that he was a willing agent for years.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: He loved Britain and he wanted to work for them.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: That's with the allege either way. The central problem here
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: is the same. Rather than allow William McGrath to be
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: investigated and jailed for being an abusive pedophile. Five shut
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: down any attempt to pursue him in favor of protecting
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: their own interests. In other words, though British officials knew
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: that William McGrath was a pedophile and abusing boys, they
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: simply didn't care enough or saw what he was giving
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: them as so valuable that they never stopped. Instead, I
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: five in the British opted to serve their efforts in
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: learning more about Taro, the paramilitary group and similar groups
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: at a time when sectarian violence was tearing apart in
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Northern Ireland. In the decades since, it's alleged the British
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: government has purposely put King Kora through week spiless inquiries
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: so as to satisfy the public demand for an investigation,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: bothout giving investigators enough power to compel meaningful or damning testimonies.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: So that's the whole concept here is the British knew
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: what was happening, they let this go on there. Obviously
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: their connection has never been unveiled. But if that's true,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, this would be like some incredibly deep, disturbing
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: shit that the Government of England not only knew that
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the pedophile was running a pedophile network, but they let
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: them continue because, like I said, this guy, William McGrath
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: was tied to these paramilitary groups. The British government was
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: trying to gather information on paramilitary groups, so I mean
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you could see him being a great asset for them
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: to gather information from. But just who was William McGrath
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a main the demon in this story and what about
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: him made it so imperative to m I five that
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: he'd be protected. What was the British government doing sniffing
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: around these loyalist groups, and what evidence is there of
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a cover up? And how exactly are the horrible crimes
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: that took place in King Korra tied to the violence
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and politics of the troubles. These are questions that we
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: have to ask ourselves. You always have to be questioning
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: stories like this. I mean, there's no doubt in my
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: mind that this is true, but you know, you always
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: have to question yourself and make sure that you're being honest,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: especially with this kind of work. And that's how we
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: get to part three of this story, the Evidence of
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the conspiracy. This is my favorite part. So we can
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: first start by addressing William McGrath, the strange man with
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: deep ties to protest and leaders, and even deeper, darker secrets.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So William McGrath was an evangelical Protestant, and a particularly
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: zealous one at that. He believed that a violent conflict
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: between the Protestants and the Catholics had always been inevitable,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: kind of like what are the like apocalyptic prophecy. He
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: always thought that this war, this battle, needed to be fought.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: He was in favor of a Northern Ireland totally under
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Protestant control and rejected the idea that Catholics should have
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: civil liberties. He also wasn't an unfamiliar name to other
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: major Unionist leaders and had ties to Ian Paisley's Ulster
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Constitution Defense Committee and Charles Harding Smith's Ulster Defense Association.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Like William McGraths, the paramilitary group that he led held
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: extremist views. Tara or TAR, which was based in Ulster,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: preached that Catholicism should be outlawed and worked to prepare
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: not only for future violence with and against Catholics, but
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: for an all out doomsday scenario when Protestants would be
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: violently attacked by their enemies and forced it a fend
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: their country in a bloody struggle. So many of these
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: paranoid views were actually instigated and put into people's heads
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: by William McGrath, the pedophile himself, who had a particular
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: knack for speaking to and swaying audiences. So McGrath instilled
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: in his group a pervasive fear of the end times
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: and urged members to prepare for a day when Tara
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Tar would need to step up and lead Protestants into
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the future through that bloody conflict. But as such fuel
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: fueled platforms often do, Tara's beliefs. Tar's beliefs only served
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to worsen relations between Catholics and Protestants at the height
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of the troubles, acting as another line in a chorus
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: of hate. Tara's second in command, Roy Garland, underneath William McGrath,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: remembers how William and TERA's views darkened matters. This is
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a quote from Ray. He had been predicting blood on
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the streets and that we would have to stand up
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and fight the cause. What he got, at least initially,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was an evangelical led paramilitary group. We were led to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: believe there's this cataclysm coming, but natural fact we were
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: creating a problem. While TARA was never associated with any
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: real violence and members spent most of their time meeting
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to rile themselves up, it did manage to catch the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: eye of MI five and other British services who were
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: eager to learn more about the groups involved in the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: troubles and their potential for terrorism. And, perhaps not coincidentally,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: William McGrath often spoke in not so subtle terms of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: how he was an agent of mi I five and
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: had valuable secretive information about paramilitary groups. This was something
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that he often said to people that he knew. I mean,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: there's many people who actually heard him talking about being
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: an MI five agent. It's wild. So by nineteen seventy one,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Roy Garland, the guy that we just talked about, who
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: was a major member in the Terra paramilitary group, he
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: broke completely from TARA after roughly sixteen years of involvement.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: He was disturbed not only by William McGrath's extremist views
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and doomsday prophecies, but also by what he was hearing
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: about the grooming of young men and sexual abuse in
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: evangelical circles. Roy Garland himself recalled feeling extremely uncomfortable many
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: times in his relationship with William McGrath, a feeling that
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: would later turn to dread as he uncovered just what
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the older man was up to behind his back. But
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: what disturbed Garland wasn't just what McGrath was doing to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: young men at the meetings. It was how open of
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a secret this abuse seemed to be with other leaders.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Garland recalled, here's a quote from him. I talked to
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I reckon at least a score of young people. This
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: was serious abuse. This man was dangerous in terms of
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: young people and dangerous in terms of politics. I spoke
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to at least a dozen clergymen Orange leaders, and one,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the district manager, said to me, I'll put my cards
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: on the table. I know about this man, and a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: lot of them I didn't need to tell they knew.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Garland was absolutely floored by William McGrath, the leader of
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the group's actions, and that those around him seemed to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: take little stock or even care about what was happening.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: There's another quote from him. We'd heard all these stories
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: about the Soviet Union and the lack of freedom and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the lack of transparency and so on, and we thought
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it's here in northern Ireland and it's been allowed to
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: continue and young kids are being destroyed and have been
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: destroyed for decades. Ian Paisley, who knew William McGrath well,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: was one such man who was aware of the abuse.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: He learned about McGrath as early as nineteen seventy three
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: when Valerie Shaw, secretary of the Missionary Council of his church,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: alerted him. She would go on to say that she
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: asked Paisley about how he would deal with McGrath's abuse
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: at least seven times. Paisley, though, did nothing. He would
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: later go on to officiate the wedding of William McGrath's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: daughter in nineteen seventy six. So, just like so many
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: people around him, these people saw that William McGrath was
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a dangerous extremist that was preaching about bloodshed and violence
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and also sexually assaulting miners, they did nothing. So if
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: William McGrath's sexual misconduct with young men around him at
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: evangelical meeting was known to his connections, it's fair to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: think that MI I five would have learned of this
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: issue during their own investigation into Terra and its leader,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and that potentially would have provided them with useful dirt
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to blackmail William McGrath into funneling them information about these
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: loyalist paramilitary groups. So it seems like the government got
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: this information or they could of this. Saw alleged the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: British government could have gotten information that William McGrath, this
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: paramilitary group leader, is a pedophile who abuses people. They
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: could have gotten evidence of that and use it to
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: blackmail William into working for them, You know what I mean?
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: But what about William McGrath's claims about having inside knowledge
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: from British intelligence sources. While Chris Moore was a journalist
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: at the BBC when the story broke about King Cora
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty and since then, he's remained one of
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the scandal's most vocal critics. His decades of investigative work
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: have taken him from the empty rooms of the Kingcorra
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Boys home itself to the doorstep of William McGrath following
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: his release. In his book The King Cora scanm Ndel
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: argues that not only was William McGrath manipulated by MI five,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the British intelligence agency, but that Terra itself became a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: tool in the British Intelligence services toolbox. And most importantly,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: this author more believes that MI five not only pulled
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: information from William McGrath, but that it had him spread
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: information and rumors for them as well. Chris Moore writes
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: that during TERRA meetings quote, William McGrath busied himself with
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: briefings on British security policy, quoting intelligence contacts he had
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: but never naming them. In this way, he briefed TERRA
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: members about the IRA strategy and the strategy of the
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Dublin government towards Northern Ireland, generally giving the impression that
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: he was very well informed end quote. Astoundingly, though, evidence
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that William McGrath was directly connected to I five and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that MI five allowed his abuse to go unchecked doesn't
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: just come from rumors and speculations. It comes from the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: mouths of former MI five agents themselves. In nineteen seventy five,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Brian Gemmel was an intelligence officer during the Troubles, tasked
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: with running an undercover agent in the Terra Paramilitary Group
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and finding out more about the organization. So Brian Gemmel
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: was tasked with getting somebody into the Terra Paramilitary Group
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and spying you know, essentially, he recounted quote. William McGrath,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: according to my source in TARA claimed to be an
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: agent and maybe that just means informant for I six
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and then I five, but begs the question what really
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: was TARA? Was it an intelligence gathering organization in the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Loyalists and Protestant community on behalf of the Security service
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: or was it a means of achieving some of their
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: political ends? Was it an organization of influence? Was it
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: an organization that could massage events? Eventually, Roy Garland remember
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the guy who saw William McGrath acting erradically and eventually
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: quit TARA, He approached Gemmel. He approached Gemmel, the intelligence officer,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and alerted him to William McGrath's history of abuse, sexual
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: abuse that is, and his concerns that William McGrath was
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: content his crimes at the King Cora Boys Home. The
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: two men then struck up a deal. Garland would provide
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: more information on TARA and its actions, and Gemmel, the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: intelligence agent, would take the report of abuse at Kingcorra
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: to his superiors for investigation. So Gemmel kept his word,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: but he didn't receive the reaction he expected. Instead of
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: pursuing the allegations, a senior official at mi I five
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: told Gemmel to ignore the reports about King Korra and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: end his personal investigation into Tara and William McGrath immediately.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Gemmel later recalled, this is a quote. I was shocked.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I know I'd done a good job. I got information
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: on Tara, I had brought to light something that was
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: potentially criminal behavior. But the line was very clearly drop
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: this end quote. So Gemmel did what he was told.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Then he backed off, and the abuse at King Kora
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: continued for another five years. Those poor boys. Looking back,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Gemmel is convinced that his experience is evidence of an
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: MI five cover up, and he regrets his role in
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the events. Other quote from him, I deeply regret retrospectively
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: that as a young man I didn't throw my career
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to the wind. I'm deeply sorry, and I apologize to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: any of those victims, all those victims who suffered because
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't have the guts to do then what I've
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: got the guts to do now. But Gemmel wasn't the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: only member of British intelligence to claim that his attempts
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to blow the whistle on William McGrath and the King
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Cora Boy's home were snuffed out by the higher ups.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Colin Wallace was a member of Army Intelligence in Northern
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Ireland and a psychological warfare specialist who learned of William
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: McGrath's abuse in the early nineteen seventies, and he may
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: have been the first British intelligence official to try and
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: bring awareness about Kinkora, to bring this story to the
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: higher ups, to get people to investigate the pedophiles that
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: were operating in this boy's home. Colin Wallace first learned
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: of the abuse when a woman reached out to tell
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: him that a young man she'd been caring for had
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: been abused by none other than William McGrath, but that
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: reports to the police hadn't resulted in any action. Colin
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Wallace brought the reports back to British Army Intelligence, who
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy three asked him to brief journalists on
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the information about King Cora. But Colin Wallace claims that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: despite having permission to leak the intel, his actions attracted
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: anger from MI five head Ian Cameron, who found him
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: to be wrongfully sharing classified information, and Colin Wallace was
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: then forced to resign from the Ministry of Defense in
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five to avoid disciplinary action. Paul Foote, the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: author of the book Who Framed Colin Wallace, writes, quote,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: he Wallace became puzzled by puzzled and a little frustrated
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: by the conflicting instructions from five and clockwork Orange to
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: keep all this sexual gossip secret from Army intelligence to
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: try to get the same gossip published. He couldn't understand
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: why when so much was known to intelligence and to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the police about McGrath and where he worked, no action
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: was being taken over it. And things didn't improve for
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Colin Wallace after his resignation. In fact, they would go
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: on to get a whole lot worse. In nineteen eighty one,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: shortly after the story about sexual abuse that King Cora
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: went public and the abusers were jailed, Colin Waher Wallis
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: was arrested for manslaughter. Officials alleged that he had beaten
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: antiques dealer Jonathan Lewis and then dumped his body in
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a river, the crime for which Colin Wallace served six
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: years in prison until forensic evidence exonerated him. The first
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: post mortem on Lewis showed no evidence of foul play,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: but the case soon morphed into a murder in the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: eyes of the police. Officials then became suspicious of Colin
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Wallace when they discovered he had lied about his whereabouts
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: on the night of the death. Colin originally told investigators
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: that he had not seen Lewis that night, but later
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: changed the statement. So, based on Wallace's changing story, the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: knowledge that he had become suspiciously close with Lewis's wife,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and the fact that a second post mortem found evidence
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: of foul play, Colin Wallace was charged with murder, but
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: throughout the trial evidence presented by the Crown was weak
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and inconsistent, so much so that the judge, Justice Kilner
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Brown quote directed the jury to find mister Wallace not
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: guilty of murder, concluding that there was no evidence of
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: any intent to kill end quote. So the judge himself
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: was saying, don't convict this guy of murder. He clearly
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: didn't do it. But the jury just went and found
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Colin Wallace guilty of manslaughter instead. Paul Foote believes that
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Colin Wallace was framed by British security services as a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: way to discredit his claims about Kincora and hide any
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: potential involvement from MI I five, and he isn't alone.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety eight, a former Special Branch officer who
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: was familiar with the Wallace case wrote to Foot the author, saying,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I sincerely believe that Colin Wallace was fitted up by
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: corrupt members of the establishment embarrassed by the events described
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: in the early part of your book. I feel there
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: was a hidden agenda and that the senior officers knew
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a lot more about the matter than they would ever
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: care to reveal. And Clive Ponting, a former senior official
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: in the Ministry of Defense, told The Sunday Times quote
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: that he had attended meetings with MI five officers at
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the mod to discuss how to prevent Wallace and Holroyd
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: from making allegations about dirty tricks in Northern Ireland. End quote.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Clive Ponting, that former senior official in Ministry Defense also
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: claimed that five the British CIA were genuinely worried about
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: what Wallace might say. It's worth mentioning here that the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: other man mentioned by Ponting, Special Military Intelligence Unit officer
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Captain Fred Holroyd, also reportedly had insight into McGrath's connections
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: to I five Holroyd reported that he was told that
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the terror organization was in in fact controlled by British
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: intelligence and was not a real security threat, implying that
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: William McGrath, a former house father at Kencora and a
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: leader of Terra, had come under intelligence control before nineteen
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: seventy three. So there isn't enough time here to dive
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: too deeply into the death of Jonathan Lewis and the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: potential framing of Colin Wallace, a case that could fill
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: its own episode, but we can touch on a few
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: important points about this. So Colin Wallace to this day
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: believes that several key pieces of the Crown's case, the
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: murder case against him, were flat out faked to implicate it.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: One of those pieces of evidence is the supposed karate
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: chop that the government said that he used against Lewis.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Colin Wallace says that the alleged karate chop was manufactured
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: to provide a link between the killing and his British
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Army background. This is a quote from him. The fact
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: that it is now discredited by a leading expert indicates
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: something very underhand was going on in the preparation of
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: the case. End quote. Home Office pathologist, doctor Ian West,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: originally told investigators that he believed that Lewis had been
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: hit with a karate blow to knock him out, after
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: which the Crown alleges that Colin Wallace left Lewis in
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a river to drown, but testimony during the appeal case
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: from two new pathologists completely contradicted this claim. They argued
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: that the bleeding, the swelling, and the damage to the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: nasal bones that would have come from such a blow
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: just weren't there, and interestingly, doctor West admitted that some
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of the evidence he had used at Wallace's trial had
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: been supplied to him by a quote American security source.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Interesting other evidence came under fire io Colin Wallace's appeal
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: trial revealed that there was nothing to indicate that Lewis
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: had ever been in the car as it was alleged,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and that it was more likely that the attack had
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: occurred at the river, not a separate location as the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Crown had argued so afterwards, Colin Wallace, after serving six
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: years in prison, was released from prison in nineteen ninety six,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and since having his name cleared, Colin Wallace has continued
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in his pursuit to have both his own case of
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: wrongful conviction and the potential cover up at Kencorra investigated
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: to the fullest extent possible, and though both Gammel, the
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: former intelligence agent who had all that information on McGrath,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and Colin Wallace's testimony are compelling, it's the voices of
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the Kncorra victims themselves so that are perhaps the most affecting.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: One of those victims is Clint Massey, who believes that
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: mi I five wasn't just involved with William McGrath, but
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: they were allowing the pedophile network itself to operate as
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a way to get dirt on major leaders and politicians.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Now this is where the story, As if it couldn't
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: get any darker, this is where it gets darker. Here's
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: a quote from Clint. I strongly believe it was an
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: entrapment operation for the security services. They hoped to get
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a handle on the people who visited, to get them
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: to work for them and inform for them, he said.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: In a candidate interview with the BBC, Massy said, I'm
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: aware that there's a section within the security forces who
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: will use any means necessary to achieve their goal. The
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: fact that they had to sacrifice young boys like myself
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: to do it that there is very hard to accept.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I want the state to answer me, was it worth
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: it your dirty tricks? Was it really really worth it?
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Did you get anything of value out of it? I
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: would say the answer to that would be no, it
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: didn't change one thing to what was going on in
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Northern Ireland end quote. It's understandable that Massey feels so
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: strongly about the murky waters surrounding Kincora, especially when it
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: becomes clear that the official story contradicts the claims of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the Kncorra victims themselves. So the officials have always insisted
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: that despite these police failings, there was nothing to suggest
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: that William McGrath and Cancora were a part of a
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: larger pedophile ring operating in northern ice Ireland. But Richard
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Kerr tells a far different story and the heartbreaking account
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: of his time at Kingcorra is just difficult to discount.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: So Richard had been in public care for years, starting
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: from the age of eight, and at age fourteen was
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: moved to the king Cora Boys Home. There, he said
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: he was almost immediately targeted and abused by Mainz, one
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: of the wardens. Richard also reported that not only were
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: he and his best friend both abused sexually at Kincorra,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: but they were taken from the home and brought to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: other locations where they were forced to have sex with
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: men Besides William McGrath, the wardens, Mains and Simple, who
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: have always claimed to be the only perpetrators involved. Richard
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: recalls being taken to places like the Park Avenue Hotel,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: where he and his friend would sit in the lobby
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: and be given alcohol, even though they were clearly miners.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: They also had specific rules that were given to them.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: When a man approached them in the lobby, they understood
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: that they were to follow him upstairs, and that once
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: they got upstairs, they were to have sex with this man.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: When it was finished, they were returned to the lobby
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and continued drinking alcohol as if nothing had ever happened.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Richard was only fifteen years old at this time. I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: was used as a boy toy. He said. I was
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: an object, a sexual object. Sometimes, Richard recalls the men
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: would give him gifts. He received things like chocolate, a watch,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: and a transmitter radio. Despite it going against the established story,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Richard insists that he and his friend were abused as
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: part of a larger pedophile ring. To this day he
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: swears that this is true. I don't know why he
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: would make this stuff up, and he has since spoken
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: with other men who experienced the same thing while they
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: were boys at King Kora. So Richard told the BBC quote,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: looking back with an open mind, I can see that
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: there was a vast, huge group of people that were
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: involved in this. It was a huge network. Because children
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: that I have spoken to said that this had been
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: done to them. It was done to my friends, It
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: was done to people I came into contact with after
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: they left the home. It was surely done to my
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: friends who committed sign Journalists Chris Moore may have done
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: more digging into king Korra than just about anyone else,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: even going so far as to search the abandoned building itself.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: While there, he recovered diaries from a desk in the
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: former office. Among other things, the diaries noted nights when
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: a boy from Kincora was on several occasions to a
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: location in West Belfast. But when this journalist Chris Moore,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: after finding this diary in this abandoned boys home, when
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: he took that address and he headed there to the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: supposed address, he found that it never existed in the
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: first place, and locals that lived nearby told him that
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: it had never existed at all. Chris believes that these
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: diaries note the movements of Richard Kerr from Kenkora to
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: separate locations for abuse with a phony address he used
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: to conceal the horror of the otherwise seemingly mundane action.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: So that's I mean, it makes sense. There's talk in
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: this journal found inside the boy's home that boys were
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: being taken out out of the house and driven randomly
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: different nights to a location that doesn't even exist. Will
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: At the same time, you have former children that lived
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: there saying they were sex trafficked. It's crazy. But Richard,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: remember we're going back to Richard, the victim. He also
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: reported that despite telling police about what happened in the
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: hotel and other locations during interviews in the nineteen eighties,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the police dismissed his experiences as evidence of a pedophile
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: network and just said it was a lot of bullshit.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: For Richard, a boy who had suffered the trauma of
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: sexual abuse, the impact must have been absolutely devastating. The
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: failure of police to take his claim seriously has dark
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: echoes of what Richard remembers his friend telling him as
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: they tried to sleep in their room at King Cora.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: It's always best not to say anything, Richard. This is
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: what his friend told him. It's always best not to
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: say nothing, Richard. No one's gonna believe you. And indeed,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: somehow Richard and other victims' stories of being brought to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: other men outside of King Cora for abuse has done
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: nothing to check the official stance on what happened. There
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: may even be evidence that someone tried to stop Richard
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: from telling his story. Richard claims that as the trial
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of the King Korra abusers began in the nineteen eighties,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: he was visited by the police. They went through his drawers,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: put him in a car, and took him to a
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: police station, where they interrogated him and left him in
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: a cell alone for seven hours. Richard claims, quote, first
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: of all, they intimidated me by bringing me to a
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: station and putting me in a cell. They wanted to
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: make it clear that I'm not to say anything. They
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: also said to me that if you tell any lies,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: if you talk about this, then we can put you away.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: So at that moment I stopped wanting to volunteer what
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: my experience was in Kincora. So effectively the police kidnapped him,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: scared the shit out of him, and they actually succeeded
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: in getting him to want to talk about it. Less
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: you know that the intimidation apparently worked for a while.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Richard then moved from Northern Ireland to Texas in nineteen
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: eighty six and it would be decades before he felt
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: safe about opening up about the crimes again. Well, like
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Richard Kerr, Gary Hoy was another victim at King Korra
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and felt betrayed by the decision to keep the case
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: out of the iicsa inquiry. Remember that government body opened
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: up after Jimmy Savill allegedly investigating institutions for abuse, so
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: that somehow ignored Kinkorra. Gary Hoy, the victim, wrote in
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: an Affidavid quote, if we had a proper inquiry in
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, then I wouldn't have to relive this
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: again today. Five and six cannot be allowed to hide things,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and I believe everything needs to be brought out into
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: the open. I find it heart wrenching that there were
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: security men that could have been behind the abuse or
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: involved in it because they were in positions of authority
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: or supposed to be protecting the state when they got
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: away with it. But when it was announced that King
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Kra would be kept within the weaker HIA Inquiry, Gary
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: launched a legal battle against the decision that went all
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the way to the Court of Appeal. Gary and his
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: lawyers argued quote that the investigation, being chaired by Sir
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Anthony Hart, lacks the power to properly scrutinize allegations that
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: child abuse at the home throughout the nineteen seventies was
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: covered up to protect an intelligence gathering operation end quote.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: But the court upheld the ruling to leave King Kora
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: out of the IICSA inquiry, a decision that was yet
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: another below to the already devastated victim, Gary Hoy, who
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: remains haunted by what happened to him at the King
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Cora Boys Home. Clinton Massey, another victim, also publicly criticized
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the ruling and the weakness of the HIA, stating quote,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the HIA Inquiry needs to be able to summon the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: senior civil servants. When Whitehall says jump, they jump. But
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: if it's based here in Northern Ireland, they won't have
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: the authority end quote. When the HIA Inquiry released its
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: findings on Kincora in twenty seventeen, Richard Kerr was among
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: its vocal critics. He rejected flat out the report's claims
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: that there was no evidence of a pedophile network, and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: he challenged the fact that the case had been left
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: out of the larger IICSA inquiry. He said, quote right now,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: when they're not willing to bring Cancora into Westminster, the
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: message that sends to me is there some on a
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: cover up, and there has been, he told the local
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: British news channel. Chris Moore, the reporter that found that
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: diary in the boy's home that led him to an
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: address that never existed, He sees the inquiries of twenty
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty fifteen as more of the same in
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a decades long pattern of half hearted, half assed investigations.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Chris said, quote. They set up inquiry after inquiry into
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: King Korra, each with powers so limited that MI five
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: are saved from aggressive interrogation and mandatory powers to squeeze
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the truth about MI five's interest in a boy's hostel
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: in East Belfast. Their message is consistently promoted, we have
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: nothing to hide. If that's true, why are King Corus
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: state documents locked away and not to be published until
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: twenty sixty five in one instance and twenty eighty five
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: in another, long after everybody involved is going to be dead.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: The unchanging nature of the official story is maddening. The
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: victims are so insistent that they were abused outside of
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: King kor as a part of a larger pedophile network,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: a network which could have included politicians, powerful businessmen, members
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: of the church. I mean, obviously, if this guy's connected
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to British intelligence, if he's a leader of a paramilitary group,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: this guy's widely connected. He's running this boy's home, he
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: probably knows people, and these people probably come to him
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: or came to him, and who knows who all abused
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: these boys. I completely believe their stories personally, because I
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: choose to believe victims. But if the victims are so
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: insistent that they were abused outside of Kncora as a
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: part of a larger network, why has no inquiry effort
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: came to that conclusion. And if that basic fact cannot
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: be agreed upon, what else about the King Korra story
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: is untrue? In light of that, and testimony for men
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: like Gemmel and Wallace, former agents who worked for intelligence
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: and army services. What imputus do we have to believe
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: any of what mi I five and the British government
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: have said about Kinkorhy? Why what evidence does anybody have
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: to trust them? Obviously there's cover up after cover up
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: in this story. I mean, there's evidence from former agents
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: that William McGrath was They knew he was a pedophile,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: he was working with intelligence, they knew that he was
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: abusing so many ten dozens of boys at this boys home.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: They did nothing. They let it happen. Who knows how
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: many perpetrators there were. If William was actually running a
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: pedophile network, they've never mentioned any of it. There have
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: been all these weird things in this story, like six
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: shutting down investigations, refusing to put pressure to interview people
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to really do an in depth investigation. So why the
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: hell would you trust what they say when, like right now,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: this podcast has done more deeper digging than the British government,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: the people who are supposed to be protecting children in
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: that area, have ever done. I mean, it's just disheartening.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: So the conclusion at the end of the story. It's
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: unusual and I will say this and I agree on it,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: to come upon a conspiracy theory that has so many
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: people willing to go on their own about what happened,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: particularly when those people are members of organizations like am
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I five or Army Intelligence. Like these officials. They want
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: this story to get out. They want the truth to
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: be told. They are literally risking their lives. I mean,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: the government could have them killed, anything like that. But
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: they see this as so fundamentally dark and disturbing that
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the truth has been covered up for so long that
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: they are going on the record talking about it. But
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the King Kora Boys Home, everything
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: seems just upside down. What happened to the boys of
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Cancora is abhorrent and wrong and disturbing, and it angers
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: me and it saddens me, and it should do all
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: of that to you as well. And after this podcast,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: after this episode, I think you can also gather that
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: the official story, no matter how many details we're talking
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: about here, is completely wrong. How the local police and
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: officials handled the long circulating rumors about the abuse was
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: also wrong. I mean, they didn't even interview victims. They
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: shut down victims. They refuse to talk to vics, They
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: refused to believe any of the stories that were emerging
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: from the home. But what really happened at Cancora? What
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: do we know for sure? Other than that at least
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: twenty nine boys were the victims of horrible sexual abuse.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Well Colin Wallace and Brian Gemmol the agents paint a
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: disturbing picture, one of a government so focused on work
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: with paramilitary groups and gathering intelligence that the lives of
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: innocent young men, people they were supposed to protect became expendable.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Their innocence became expendable. A government willing to frame a
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: whistleblower for murder and allow a doomsday preaching Zelot to
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: victimize boys in his care as well, This government was
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: also willing to frame a whistleblower allegedly for murder and
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: allowed a doomsday preaching Zelot who was a part of
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a paramilitary group, a guy thirsting for bloodshed, to victimize
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: boys miners in his care. And for what they wanted
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: to gather sexual gossip about politicians, information about Tara, a
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: group known to be all bark and no bite. Well,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: this is gonna piss you off. Let's get to the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: end of the story. William McGrath, the leader in Tara,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the guy supposedly connected to m I five, the head pedophile.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: He was released just two years into his four year
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: prison sentence for sexually assaulting dozens of young boys two
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: years in prison. Chris Moore, the Reporter tracked William McGrath
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: down in nineteen ninety to ask him what truths about
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: the king Core Boys Home have yet to be revealed,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: and McGrath told him he was the only person that
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: would ever know the real story, and maddeningly he might
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: be right. William McGrath mains and simple. The three people
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: that ran the king Corn Boys Home, they're all dead
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: and with each passing year can Core victims lose hope
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: that any meaningful investigation will ever bring them the truth
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: about what happened to them. Decades of plea for answers,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: official inquiries, and disturbing testimony have never been enough to
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: convince am I five, the British government or the police
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: to come clean with just what happened with the lives
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: in their files, files which are not allowed once again
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: to be made public until the year twenty sixty five,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: forty one years from now, which to me shows there's
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: something incriminating in that file. I don't know why I
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: would think that, but why the hell not just put
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: out the files now? I mean, it's just comical when
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: it's like the government with shit like that. They literally
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: are like, yeah, these files contained some really really dark,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: twisted stuff that we lied about. We'll release them eventually,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: but not until three thousand and forty nine. And it's like,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: why not just put them out now? What's their answer?
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: That's what I really want to know. But at the
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: end of the day, perhaps Chris Moore, the reporter who
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: covered the story, puts it the best quote. Those who
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: suffered in for the sake of a security operation deserve
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: to hear the truth. They should not be regarded as
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: expendable in order to protect those in authority who knew
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: what was going on but did nothing. Those charged with
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: protecting the integrity of the state should be accountable for
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: their actions, and the government owes it to those abused
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: in Kincora to make them accountable. In reality, there's more
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: chance of my playing for Manchester United before the end
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: of the current season. So that about wraps up our
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: episode for today. King Cora Boys Home personal thoughts, Like
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say at the end of every episode, I
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: obviously believe the victims. And when you have all of
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: that adding up, I mean there's parallels here with Epstein.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: You know, people thinking he was gathering black mail. I mean,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: obviously it's known that he was gathering blackmail, but people
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: thinking he may have been working for a government to
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: gather blackmail. What if that's what was happening at Kencorra.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: What if these boys were being pimped out to politicians
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: and powerful people so that William McGrath or anybody else
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: involved in king or could gather blackmail, photos, documents, any
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: evidence against them. And I mean, really, what came out
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: of this? What's Tara. I've never even heard of Tara.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: It's not like they were an important group that was
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: causing so many hundreds of thousands of you know, dollars
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: worth of damages or murdering people and stuff. I mean,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: it's just it's really it really leaves a bad taste
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: in my mouth, especially the fact that to this day
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: the government will not admit to any anything beyond what
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: the official story is. And so that's why to end
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: today's episode, I've created a change dot org petition. Please,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: if you've made it this far in the show, I'm
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: gonna try and blast this out on TikTok and on YouTube.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I would love for you guys to go sign the
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: petition for me. We're gonna lobby the British government to
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: open up another investigation into King Kora. Hopefully we can
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: get a couple thousand signatures. That would be great. I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think it would be great to use
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: this podcast and the show as a tool to be
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: able to raise awareness and help write some of the
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: wrongs and the stories that we cover here. But anyways,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in this week. We'll be
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: back next week with another interesting episode of a man
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: who jumped from a building to his death after talking
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: about the Illuminati and secret government agencies. But he jumped.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I believe he was found fifty feet from the building,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: meaning he would have had to have like cricket or
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: what other grasshopper legs to jump that far from the building.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really bizarre story with some new
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: information that we uncovered in our research here that's really twisted.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: But thank you to everybody for watching today and listening.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Big shout out to Amelia GP who helped put this
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: script together. Wouldn't be possible to make the show without
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: our wonderful staff behind the scenes of editors and writers.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you all so much. Once again, I love each
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: and every one of you. Keep that tinfoil hat on,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: keep questioning everything, and I'll see you next week. Bo