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Chuck & Buck 11-24 Hour 4: MMQB continues with Mike Holmgren and Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: holm Grin and Hugh Millin. Here's Chuckin' buck.
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  Speaker 2: Touchdown sixty three yard yesterday was an improv route. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't called that way when they saw they had a
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  Speaker 2: safety manned up on him when he went in motion.
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  Speaker 2: So that's when Smith and Jigott changed its route and.
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  Speaker 3: Then that play was made because the offensive line gave
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  Speaker 3: Darnold time. Often he doesn't get that much time to
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  Speaker 3: come out Smith and Jiggy to run a forty yard
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  Speaker 3: route from left to wreck, and that's what he did,
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  Speaker 3: and he was able to cross the.
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  Speaker 1: Field and become open.
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  Speaker 4: And when you have.
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  Speaker 2: That much time, you're often going to get Smith and
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  Speaker 2: Jiggbit open. But that play in particular, sixty three yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, he looked at me like Jerry Rice.
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  Speaker 2: His body control, his speed is changing his speed on
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  Speaker 2: the defensive back.
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  Speaker 4: That was Greg Bell we had on earlier. We actually
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  Speaker 4: had him on I think at midnight or something. We
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  Speaker 4: had to have we recorded him before the show because
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  Speaker 4: he was getting on a plane. He might have actually
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  Speaker 4: been having a lady buckle his own seat belt for
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  Speaker 4: him right there. But by the way, one thing before
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  Speaker 4: I get into this, actually I did not realize these guys,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the knowledge and wisdom we get from coach
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  Speaker 4: Holmgren and Hugh there's we must be in a pretty
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  Speaker 4: penny for that, because I mean, these guys, there's like
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  Speaker 4: eighty seven sponsors for these There's a lot, yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: mean a lot of people. A lot of people want
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  Speaker 4: to be attached to you guys. Well, there's one attach
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  Speaker 4: to me. I think eighty six attached to Hugh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: multiple cars from them, are on our Foundation special slapjacket.
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  Speaker 4: You got all kinds of You got all kinds of stuff, Coach,
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  Speaker 4: and understandably so I would like to sponsor you if
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  Speaker 4: I could. I have five dollars. Would that give me anything? No,
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  Speaker 4: just bring me the dip at Christmas. Okay, okay, done,
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  Speaker 4: done and done. Welcome back to Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 4: point three k yards the Chuck and Buck Show minus Chuck,
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  Speaker 4: just Buck and Ashley. But the last hour we had Hugh.
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  Speaker 4: We got all of his insight, or some of his insight.
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  Speaker 4: There's more in that big brain on. It always is more.
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  Speaker 4: There's always there's always more, Coach, but there's always more
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  Speaker 4: in you. Where I called George wisdom. Right now we
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  Speaker 4: get the wisdom of the show. We had just played
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  Speaker 4: a highlight. We'll get to the general thoughts. I want
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  Speaker 4: to get into this JSN thing first. So we just
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  Speaker 4: played a little bit of the snippet of of Greg
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  Speaker 4: Bell coming on earlier, and he even threw out the
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  Speaker 4: Jerry Rice name and in some of the things that
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  Speaker 4: he's seeing out of him. I talked to Hugh about
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  Speaker 4: it last hour, and yet he hasn't got to get
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  Speaker 4: into his comps yet. When somebody says what they're seeing
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  Speaker 4: JSN do reminds them of Jerry Rice? Is there any
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  Speaker 4: part of you that's seeing that or is it somebody
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  Speaker 4: else that you're seeing? Well, you know, when I watch
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  Speaker 4: him play, this is JSN. You know, I'm He's he's great.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he is really something, He's special. I'm always
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  Speaker 4: I've always been reluctant to compare players, however, you know,
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  Speaker 4: because I've been asked many times. You know, you got
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  Speaker 4: you had Montanna, you had young, you had five, you
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  Speaker 4: had asked the back who was the best one? Well,
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm you know, they're all great, and they're all
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  Speaker 4: great in their own way.
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  Speaker 5: Jerry Rice, though, is acknowledged to be the finest receiver
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  Speaker 5: that's played the game. His numbers proved that he was bigger.
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  Speaker 5: He's bigger, bigger man than js EN. But so I'd
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  Speaker 5: be reluctant to compare him. Yet jess En' is just starting.
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  Speaker 5: He's just starting in his career right. But having said that,
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  Speaker 5: I watch him. He is really something. He makes it
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  Speaker 5: look easy. He's got great hands, he knows how to
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  Speaker 5: get open. He understands defenses. That seems to me very clearly.
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  Speaker 5: So he's great. I just just put the brakes on
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  Speaker 5: just a little bit. Comparing him to Jerry Rice, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I understand, Hugh. Where would you didn't get to really
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  Speaker 5: say who your comp would be.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the reason I look as far as as the
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  Speaker 6: hands and the finishing ability. Jerry Rice came in the
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  Speaker 6: league and he he dropped a lot of balls his
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  Speaker 6: rookie year. There were people were down on him and
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  Speaker 6: and he just willed himself into having great hands and
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  Speaker 6: he was dynamic run after the catch. The reason I
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't camp Jerry Rice Mike is Jerry Rice was six
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  Speaker 6: foot two, very high cut guy, long legged at six
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  Speaker 6: foot two, and you know they say he didn't have
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  Speaker 6: elite speed. Nobody ever caught him, But I just thought
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  Speaker 6: that he had an ability. Rice's great impression on me.
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  Speaker 6: I was in the NFC West Rams and Falcons played
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  Speaker 6: him twice a day. Mike coached him. So Mike has
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  Speaker 6: a far better and intricate knowledge, but I would see Rice.
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  Speaker 6: He could get full speed going really quick. He could
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  Speaker 6: stop really quick for a large man, and he could
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  Speaker 6: accelerate back going really quick. So I think there was
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  Speaker 6: a stop and acceleration elite part of his game. But
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  Speaker 6: the body control, you know. Again, Rice was a taller
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  Speaker 6: guy and long legged. Deboot you've got in JSN six
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  Speaker 6: foot and a half and short legged. So his speed
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  Speaker 6: cuts and radius turns, they look different to my eye
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  Speaker 6: than Jerry. To me, I would say like a Reggie
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  Speaker 6: Wayne would be a comp. Possibly a Tim Brown, you know,
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  Speaker 6: right around that height. Andre Risen I played with Andrey Risen.
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  Speaker 6: Mike coached him in a Super Bowl. I think Risen
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  Speaker 6: would be a comp for me. You know, maybe Andre
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  Speaker 6: Reid for the Bills for those who can remember him.
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  Speaker 5: How about Steve? How about Steve Smith?
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  Speaker 6: Steve Smith, I would Mike, I would almost push him
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  Speaker 6: into a shorter cat. You know, he was little stronger
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  Speaker 6: and stockier, so so I would put put him in
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  Speaker 6: the five nine five ten stocky category, whereas Rice, I think,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Tim Brown, you know, Isaac Bruce and and
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  Speaker 6: Tory Holt were around that height, but I think they
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  Speaker 6: were skinnier. Uh. They were beautiful route runners, but I
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  Speaker 6: think in a I think Isaac Bruce would be a
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  Speaker 6: smaller Jerry Rice and in stylistically, but I would I
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  Speaker 6: would go with maybe a Reggie Wayne. I mean, Reggie
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  Speaker 6: Wayne's at that height has the fourth most amount of
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  Speaker 6: receiving yards in the history of the NFL. That's a
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  Speaker 6: compliment to say him. But you know, and for guys,
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  Speaker 6: I played with Andre rise and had great body controlled
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  Speaker 6: due to his stature, you know, strong legs, relatively short legs,
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  Speaker 6: but that allowed him to do those those quick radius
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  Speaker 6: speed turns, Mike.
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  Speaker 5: So if he's just if he just wear a shirt
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  Speaker 5: on the airplane, Andre Rison, then we could really compare
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  Speaker 5: him to a lot of people, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: The story there. Then take us down that ye, take
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  Speaker 6: us down the aisle on that airport.
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  Speaker 5: No, we signed Andre Risen and he helped us win
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  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, and I really liked him. You know,
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  Speaker 5: he's a little bit of a wucky guy, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But first game he's traveling with us. We're traveling and
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  Speaker 5: I had always told the flight attendants if there's a
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  Speaker 5: problem of any kind, and we didn't have a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of problems, but if there's a problem of any kind,
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  Speaker 5: come to me, don't go to don't go to anyone else.
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  Speaker 5: Come to me and I'll handle it. She comes up
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  Speaker 5: to me and goes, mister Homegren, I have I what
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  Speaker 5: to spit it out? What's wrong? Well, there's a young
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  Speaker 5: man in the back. He's doesn't have any shirt clothes,
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't have his shirt on or anything, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and they're eating dinner. So I go back there and
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  Speaker 5: Ryse is there. He's eating no shirt. I go, how
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  Speaker 5: are you doing? Andre? Oh, good coach, he's a good food.
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  Speaker 5: I said, listen, let me ask you a question. Look
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  Speaker 5: around the room and tell me what's different. And he goes, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you mean my shirt? I said, yes, yeah, you nailed
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  Speaker 5: your shirt. I said.
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  Speaker 4: He goes, what.
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  Speaker 5: I listen, I always want everyone to wear all their
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  Speaker 5: clothes when they're eating dinner. Okay, so put on your shirt,
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  Speaker 5: and in the future, wear your clothes when you're eating dinner. Okay, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 5: sure he puts it on here. Just that's it, no reason. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 5: oh yeah, but getting back to the important stuff. No,
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  Speaker 5: he was. He was really good. But you know what,
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  Speaker 5: he had trouble remembering plays? Oh he did, so, I
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  Speaker 5: told Farv every time you call a play, now, he
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  Speaker 5: was new to us. Before you break the huddle, look
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  Speaker 5: at him and say do this. Just tell him he
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  Speaker 5: couldn't hear the play, and say what to do? You know,
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  Speaker 5: I get it, Yeah, I get it. I stopped playing
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  Speaker 5: in high school and Ray Brown was my coach. I
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  Speaker 5: don't remember him.
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  Speaker 4: He was a in the NFL with the Browns, and
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  Speaker 4: he would get so frustrated because there they'd call plays
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  Speaker 4: sometimes and I'm like, I just beg what well, and
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  Speaker 4: He's like, go get the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: No, okay, Rising. I coached a number of Pro Bowls
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  Speaker 5: and you'd have you know, Herman Moore, you'd have Michael Irvin,
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  Speaker 5: the guys of Hugs and then Rizon and Jerry Rice,
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  Speaker 5: all these great receivers. So I called plays from the sideline,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and I get Rising. I go, okay, run
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  Speaker 5: twenty two z in, which is a simple play ran
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  Speaker 5: all the time. And okay, he'd run in there, which
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  Speaker 5: was twenty yards to the huddle, and Rydald McDaniel look
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  Speaker 5: over me, he goes Rising in that time forgot, I
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  Speaker 5: forgot what to call, and I go okay, all right.
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  Speaker 4: So he wasn't. He wasn't the one with a green
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  Speaker 4: dot now before green dots were a thing.
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  Speaker 6: Then we're doing a disservice to JAYSN because JSN has
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  Speaker 6: a football IQ apparently, Mike just watching the tape. Oh no,
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  Speaker 6: it's like next level stuff. He is what do you
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  Speaker 6: see with him?
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  Speaker 5: He is unbelievable and he does it. He does it
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  Speaker 5: all and he catches the ball so well in his
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  Speaker 5: body mechanics, and he's not a big, big guy, but
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  Speaker 5: he boy, he is hard to cover and he's always open.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going, how what are teams when they're preparing for
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks? You start defensively, you start, what are we
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  Speaker 5: going to do about that young man? What are we
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  Speaker 5: going to do? And no one's done it? No one,
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  Speaker 5: in my opinion, is done. Now I'm looking at I'm
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  Speaker 5: looking at their defensive backs. I thought were really bad,
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  Speaker 5: really bad in that game, you know, from spacing and
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  Speaker 5: angles and all sorts of stuff from contain on the run.
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  Speaker 5: I just thought they had a very poor game offense
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  Speaker 5: and defensively.
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  Speaker 6: Mike, you know, just picking up on his instincts. There.
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  Speaker 6: There was a play the sex are down in the
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  Speaker 6: red zone at the Tennessee thirteen yard line and on
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  Speaker 6: a little on a five and in. I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if you called it a China or finn whatever your
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  Speaker 6: terminology was, but but I'm watching this and Jaysn gets
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  Speaker 6: his right foot is outside foot to a seven the
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  Speaker 6: seven and a half yard line. But then as the
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  Speaker 6: play is getting slow, he's going into the teeth of
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  Speaker 6: his own defense. I believe on that one it was
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  Speaker 6: a two deep five hunder, So he's going into the
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  Speaker 6: the curl defender on the opposite side, Mike pass the
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  Speaker 6: hook defender, and he's going in there. Darnold is kind
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  Speaker 6: of moving around the pocket. JSN loses ground and he goes.
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  Speaker 6: He goes from the seven and a half yard line
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  Speaker 6: of Tennessee. He loses ground back to the eleven yard line.
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  Speaker 6: The NFL categorized it as two air yards. Now he
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  Speaker 6: was able to avoid that guy and get the sideline.
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  Speaker 6: That was only he only got one yard out of
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  Speaker 6: the play, so it's it's not gonna make anybody's highlight tape.
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  Speaker 6: But Mike, I was sitting there thinking if I had
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  Speaker 6: to wait for the next time I saw a receiver
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  Speaker 6: do that lose that much ground instinctively to help the
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  Speaker 6: quarterback and get in front of that zone. Defender. I
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  Speaker 6: don't know how long i'd look. I mean, he just
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  Speaker 6: does stuff that is just so next level with his IQ.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, he is. He's a special player. And listen,
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  Speaker 5: that's what that's what they need. Contrary to that, I
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  Speaker 5: think the new the new young man that they got
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  Speaker 5: what's his name the receiver? Yeah, uh, you know we
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  Speaker 5: always in you knows this and Buck when you go
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  Speaker 5: you call a pass play and you don't, you don't
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  Speaker 5: you think you know if it's going to be zone
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  Speaker 5: or man, but then it's not, it's what it's something else.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you think his own that is man. The
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  Speaker 5: receiver has it to make adjustments on that too. You
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  Speaker 5: don't run and cover yourself and you see the receivers
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  Speaker 5: do that all the time, and it blows my mind
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  Speaker 5: just a little bit because you know it's a man
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  Speaker 5: route you're crossing and all of a sudden, no, it's zone,
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  Speaker 5: but you don't go in the next zone. You stop
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  Speaker 5: in the hole. So you make adjustments that way too.
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  Speaker 5: And I heard you coming over, Hugh that he's new,
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  Speaker 5: he's new, and they need him to start doing those
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  Speaker 5: types of things as well.
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  Speaker 6: In my opinion, mm hmm, yeah, yeah, he's reading, you know,
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  Speaker 6: man and and and the quarterbacks expect him to idle
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  Speaker 6: down in those holes. Right.
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  Speaker 5: But you see that all the time, you know, you
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  Speaker 5: see it all the time in games when you're watching
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  Speaker 5: games that receivers run into coverage, run in and make
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  Speaker 5: it easy for the defense. And that's one of the
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  Speaker 5: things we stressed in our offensive stuff is that, Listen,
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  Speaker 5: you got to think out there, you're not just running,
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  Speaker 5: you know, so read it that way, Mike.
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  Speaker 6: When I was in Dallas, I think Jason Garrett said
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  Speaker 6: one of the most clear and succinct and accurate comments
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  Speaker 6: about a receiver. Jason was talking about Michael Irvin was
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  Speaker 6: on the practice field and Irvin had on a comeback. Mike,
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  Speaker 6: he the ball was a little inside. Troy had thrown
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  Speaker 6: it a little inside, but Mike, Michael Irvin cut off
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  Speaker 6: the defender, used his body and then still kept as
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  Speaker 6: opposed to try and catch it on his inside shoulder
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  Speaker 6: where the defender could have a swipe at the ball.
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  Speaker 6: Michael instinctively right off Troy's hand, would you know, cut
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  Speaker 6: off the defender and then reached to the outside ey
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  Speaker 6: and and Jason just said, I'm he's the absolute best
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  Speaker 6: I've never seen a guy that has a quicker awareness
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  Speaker 6: of where his body is, where the ball is and
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  Speaker 6: the defender, and he always keeps himself between the defender
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  Speaker 6: and the ball. And we saw jays N he he
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  Speaker 6: it was just a quick uh Omaha route, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the five yard out rounde, but it's a little late.
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  Speaker 6: And remember when jays N over on that left sideline,
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  Speaker 6: he like curls back. He's almost turning into a curl
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  Speaker 6: back to the quarterback, losing ground, and and and and
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  Speaker 6: it reminded me of of of Jason's comment about Michael Irvin.
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  Speaker 6: The great ones have an instinctive awareness to keep their
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  Speaker 6: body between the defender and the ball. And he did
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  Speaker 6: you know it was on display a number of times yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you on that. And coaches
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  Speaker 4: coach was noding there. I think that the idea of
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  Speaker 4: of how the ball skills part of it. He would
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  Speaker 4: it up earlier when we were talking of like an
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  Speaker 4: outfield or understanding angles and then you anticipate, you take
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  Speaker 4: the angle based on where you think the ball is
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  Speaker 4: going to come down. And if if you're bad at it,
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  Speaker 4: then you're taking a different route. The difference between that
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  Speaker 4: and what jsn's doing and some of these great receivers
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  Speaker 4: he gets brought up, is there was nobody trying to
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  Speaker 4: guard me, cover me and trying to knock me down
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  Speaker 4: or tackle me when I was running down balls in
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  Speaker 4: a gap. And so it's pretty it's pretty crazy what
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  Speaker 4: the JSN has been able to do, especially just two
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  Speaker 4: years in to the league. I mean, it's when you
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  Speaker 4: talk about learning things, I mean the the I would
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  Speaker 4: think you being quarterback guru, but really just an offensive guy.
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  Speaker 4: When it comes to the idea of a wide receiver
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  Speaker 4: that comes in as a rookie and is automatically a
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  Speaker 4: little bit maybe above where you would typically think of
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  Speaker 4: wide receiver as a rookie is going to be. How
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  Speaker 4: big of a security blanket is that coach for the
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  Speaker 4: quarterback to just know this guy's he's basically another offensive
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  Speaker 4: coordinator out there, just like I'm supposed to be.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's huge. And I think I've read and
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  Speaker 5: heard that, uh, Sam and and and Jess and their
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  Speaker 5: relationship and the thing and how they react in meetings
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  Speaker 5: is really something special. And that happened early. It doesn't
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  Speaker 5: always happen as a rookie in fact that it's kind
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  Speaker 5: of rare. Actually it takes a little time to kind
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  Speaker 5: of fit in. Hughes point about Jerry Rice, and that
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  Speaker 5: was a year before I got there. But he dropped it.
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  Speaker 5: He did drop a lot of balls his rookie year,
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  Speaker 5: and then he somehow he realized why and he made
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  Speaker 5: the adjustment. But what this young guy has done in
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: a very short period of time is really special. My
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: hope is he stays healthy and keeps going and then
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: like the record he broke, there's there's five how many
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: games we got left? Six six games left. I mean
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be. Yeah, the new record's going to be
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: off the charts.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, stay healthy. At this point it might be it
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: might be time to start some countdown of whether or
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: not he can pass all of them and be I mean,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: it's well, it was Cooper Cup had its, Calvin Johnson
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: ends up having the record right at almost twenty yards
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: nineteen hundred and sixty four. At this point, he's on pace.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: You gotta stay healthy and keep putting up numbers and
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: throwing it getting strikes thrown to him. So well, that
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: was a good breakdown of JSN what he brings to
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: the table. I do want to get into some of
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: the other factors of the game that we watched yesterday.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, the Seahawks end up winning that bad boy
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: wasn't as pretty as some people would have protected. But
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: at the same time, I think you have to remember
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: you're going up against another NFL team. So we'll get
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: coaching Hughes insight a little bit more about this game
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: on the other side of ninety three point three KGRFM.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Now back to the Monday Morning Quarterback brought to you
• 18:48
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  Speaker 4: On second at four play action, Darnold to the end zone.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Spit didn't shake, but with.
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: His second touchdown of the day thirteen yards at Seattle
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: storms down the field to grab six out of the
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: locker room.
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  Speaker 4: Well, thank you Fox for that highlight there. Welcome back
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: to the Monday Morning Quarterback portion. We do have coach
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Holmgren and Hugh Millen here for a couple more segments.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: We just broke down JSN and the record breaking season
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: that he's having up to this point you guys, that
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: was amazing stuff. Coach we I haven't gotten to just
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the overall, just the Seahawks go on the road, go
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: beat Tennessee. It's not a good team. They only win
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: by six. I think you have most people are just happy.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: It's a W. It doesn't say oh W minus. It's
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: not like an A plus or an A. It's just
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: you win or you lose. And they won. And yet
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I'm wondering for you. You go and beat a team you
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: were up by significantly more than six majority of the game,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: and yet it comes down to there's an on side
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: possibility there at the end that would have gotten Harry,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: had they got that Any worry, any concerns that you
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: got after watching that game.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: No, not really. I was really they should have won
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: the game. I felt they were going to win the game.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: It started that way, you know, at halftime it was
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: what sixteen to three, and then it became twenty three
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: to three, So they were in control of the game
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: most of the time. And then but then give credit
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: to Tennessee, they never quit. They had that punt return
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: kind of ignited something in them, gave them something more
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: to play for that made it close.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: At the end.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: But it really wasn't that close, even though the on
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: side kick and all that, right, because you're playing in
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: the game first of all, you're away game all those things,
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: and a wins win. So what they're thinking now, I think,
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: and they had to play a bunch of young men
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: didn't know their names really, I mean, I'm learning them.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: But they played a bunch of different people in there
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: and still came away with a w. So I think
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: they're going to feel pretty good. But there are corrections
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: to be made, and so there are lessons to be
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: learned here. So maybe in the long run this type
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: of game will help them even moving forward down the future.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike. In the first quarter, the Seahawks played a
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: cover one man to man defensively four on four times,
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: and they got beat on those crossing routes and and
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: you know, notably on a third and three where Leonard
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Williams was the four tech Bucky that's just head up
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: over the tackle, and Leonard Williams goes into the b
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: gap that's on cam Ward's right side. He's a right
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: handed quarterback. It's very easy for him to just fuel
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: that he can break the pocket. And then you got
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: man to man, the shall across might comes from the
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: opposite direction and next thing you know, you get the
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Titans have exactly a twenty five yard gain on that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: And there was other crossing routes that they had they
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: had and then McDonald they just you know, the second
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: quarter there was zero cover and derivatives of cover one
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: and for the second half they only had three. So
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: again four in the first quarter, only three for the
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: remainder of the game in the second half. As you
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: saw that, what were you thinking, either from an offensive
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: perspective or if you're the head coach and your defensive
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: keeps calling these man and man's, we're getting burned on
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: the crossing routes. Just take us into your thoughts on
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: the x's and nose on that.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: You know, I told you when I had my defensive coordinators,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: I didn't mess with them too much during the ball game.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: But if I would, I would recognize what you said
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: in that first quarter and the drives and then so
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: the one thing I would say is a hey, it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: not the man from man stuff isn't working, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: go to something else. I wouldn't tell them we exactly
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: what coverages and all that kind of stuff. But you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: let's get away from that because that's hurting us just
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: a little bit. And I think they had this, they
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: had different people playing. He likes to do different things,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald. There's really a lot of activity I think
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: with their defense, so sometimes just to play zone and
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: but they react well in my opinion, to the balls
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: being thrown and different things. So that's what I would change,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: and that's obviously what he would change, and he changed.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know if the defensive coordinator just said I
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: should do this and or Mike said do this. Mike
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: calls the defenses, so you know, I imagine he had
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: a big part of that. But I think it had
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: to do with the different people that were playing during
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: the game.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there was I think defensively, Yeah, there
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: was multiple guys that were out and some big ones.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Hugh had already kind of mentioned Ernest Jones, which obviously
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: the quarterback of the defense. That's a big one. You
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: could get away with it against the Tennessee Titans, and
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: you did, and so hopefully he'll be back before too long.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I want to touch on, you know, as much as
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: we can in this segment. The run game aspect of things.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, Ken Walker ends up with eleven carries for
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: seventy one yards. I mean that's a six and a
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: half yard per clip. I'm pretty good. I think a
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: lot of people be like, there was that one possession.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: It was towards the end of the third quarter where
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: they hand him the ball. He runs for nineteen yards,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: then he runs for eleven yards, then he catches one
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: for like twenty nine yards, and then they bring Zach
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Charbaday in to basically get the touchdown. But that made
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: it thirty to ten. I think thirty to ten, And
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: it was kind of one of those like can you
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: do that more? Was there more of that? Was that
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: just a good play call? Or was that we're just
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: going to lean on him right here? Did you like
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: the way that they used the use the running game
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: or was that something you still wish they'd use some
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: more of. I would like to see them use some
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: more of that. You said off eleven carries. For most teams,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: if you have the number one back or you're starting back,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: you're gonna hand him the ball more than eleven times mostly,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: and unless it's not working, then you might bring in
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: the change of pace or give him a blow or
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: go to more passes or whatever.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: But he was he was good yesterday. He and they
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: blocked for him. Part of that I think was Tennessee,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: I thought, and I mentioned this earlier, they're contained and
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: their their angles on the outside by linebackers and secondary people.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I thought was really weak. So do it more, I mean,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: run more. And uh, I don't. I can't answer Bucky
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: why exactly they're playing him the way they're playing him.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: If I have a chance to sit down with Mike,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: I would ask him exactly that question, you know, and
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: just he gets to decide. And Uh, Charbonnay's good player. Uh,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: he looked good. He looked good when he got in there.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: He piled it in their different style. But I would
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: like to see Walker touch the ball more. I think
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: that dull our offense will be maximized at that point.
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: You know, Mike.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I was really.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: Pleased to have been or appreciative is the better word.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Appreciative to have been challenged by Bucky on Friday about
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: pass blocking between Zach Charbonnat and Canine. And my initial
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: response was, I don't see an appreciable difference between, you know,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: having studied the tape, a lot hadn't grinded on the
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: details of that. So after the show, you know, in
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: the afternoon, before I went on with Softie later, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: had some time, and so I looked at all thirty
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: five of Charbonnet's pass blocking and all eighteen of Kenneth
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Walker's and uh, obviously you're gonna tell us that that's
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: an important thing, uh, to be able, you know, for
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: running back to pass block. But I I basically put
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: him in five grades. You know, if you if you
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: had a satisfactory uh, you know, you did your job
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: like an NFL player, you know, that was that was nothing.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: You got a plus if you did something you did
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: your job but it was difficult to do, you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: like a physical step up. Okay, he did a good
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: job on that linebacker. A double plus would be if
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: he did something just like above and beyond right, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: then a minus if he didn't do his job in
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: a double minus. And and in the end when when
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: I added it up, there were uh, there was three.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: It was a three minus four, Uh for Kenneth Walker.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: It was a six minus for sharbon Ay. But Sharbonay
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: had double the play. So they end up exactly the
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: same rate. You know, you know, I I just don't
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: know whether or not I can support the idea of
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: my conclusion. Say I'll say is there is no a
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: preciable difference. That's what I thought before I went into
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: the exercise, and that's what I thought coming out of.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: It makes sense. I mean, I'm gonna trust your guys'
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: eyeballs far more.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Actually, I didn't even have my opinion. I was just
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: thinking maybe that's the reason. And sure enough you're good
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: to bring it up. Yeah, absolutely good to bring it up. Well,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: yesterday when they get into their two minute offense after
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: they had gotten that ball on like turnover on downs
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: and then they get the ball, it was Zach Shecherboney
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: in the game during the two minute offense. Again, so
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: there's something there.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: Even though typical Mike, isn't that typical that, you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: your workhorse guy, Maybe he might not be your two
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: minute guy. You know, I've seen that a lot. What's
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: your philosophy on that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Well, your two minute guy, you might have a different
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: group in there as your two minute offense. I was
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: thinking when your discussion with Buck the I was saying
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: to Max Strong and Shawn Alexander, Right, Okay, if Sean
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: Mack was going to be the pass blocker. Sean, I've
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: told you this before, a great, great runner, very very
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: average to below on pass blocking, and so you got
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: to set it up that way. You know, you can't
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: ask somebody to do something you're pretty sure he can't do,
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: and so there's substitution. It just bes somebody. I'm gonna
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: ask that question if I have a chance, and then
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I'll be more intelligent when I come to the next
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: radio stage and next time we're on the radio, to
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: see why why are they doing it? Why why are
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: they doing it the.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Way they're doing it? Well, when you ask, then we
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: just won't see it like that anymore. They'll just be
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: giving him the ball. I mean, they're they're running back.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Had eleven carriers just like our guy did. He averaged
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: one point eight yards. There's no average six point five.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: So it feels like there could be something that if
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: this thing's clicking on all synders, you're getting more out
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: of ken Walker. But we shall see, all right, we
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: gotta we gotta break here on the other side, we're
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: gonna have one more or one last thing for coaching.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Hughes stick around here at Sports Radio ninety three point
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: three KJRFM. Welcome back to Chuck a Buck in the morning.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: We got one last segment and it's our one last thing.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I texted Hugh during the break, I told him you're
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: gonna go first, and then I just decided I'm calling
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: an audible because coach Holmgren has a one last thing
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I do for you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, ro Yeah, No, I have one last thing
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: for you. And I know, I know you don't have
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: much time on your hands because you're doing so many things,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: but I would be really curious for you to do
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: a little bit of a deep dive. Yes on JSNS catches. Okay,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: so he has X amount of catches? How many of
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: those catches with he bumped or disrupted at the line
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: of scrimator someplace? Or did they are teams just letting
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: him get out there? Because it's boggles my mind now
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: that don't don't spend a lot of time on it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: But if you, you know, if you could look that
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: up a little bit and come up with a number
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: for me, I appreciate it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: I absolutely will. Should we do it for next week
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: or do you want it by the end of the week.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I think that Friday next week is good.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: No, well, we don't have anything on Friday. Remember, we'll
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: do it on Monday.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: Yep, okay, I'll be looking for free access. How many
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: you know? Yeah right.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: I'm just curious because the receivers I've had, the good receivers,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: and how we played defense against good receivers. One of
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: the things you got to do is disrupt their timing somehow.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: I'd be curious because he looks like he running wherever
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: he wants to run, leave.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: It or not. I had been I had thought of
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: doing that exact study before. And now Bucky with coach
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he just sent in the play
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: from the sideline. I better execute that. I have zeroed out.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: Let's go.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I have zero doubt you're gonna get assignment. This is here,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: my defensive coordinator. Now, so let's get it done.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: We're gonna get it done.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Hugh.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Do you have one last thing?
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah? I do, Actually, Mike, I'm curious. Obviously, as fans
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: and even as analysts, we can say that December eighteenth
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: against the Rams is likely, you know, if all things
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: go as expected or as we hope that that's for
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: the NFC West, and and then you would be looking
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: at eight and three, unless you know, barring something calamitous,
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks are going to be in the playoffs. How
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: much do you at this juncture, if you're the head
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: coach of the Seahawks, how much are you saying, hey,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: we got I'm not going to say the Vikings are easy.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: That that's not I'm not going to disrespect the game.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to say the Falcons are easy. That's
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: disrespecting the game, and obviously the Colts after that. But
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: how much do you say, hey, it in a couple
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: of weeks when the when the you know, the Sharks
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: are in the water, that meaning that we're playing some
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: really good teams and then on into the playoffs. How
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: I envision us being in January? How much of that
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: would impact how you are viewing the team today in
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: this week in terms of Okay, I want to get better,
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: whether it's Rasiza heat or I mentioned Eliza roy or,
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: or how we're going to run the game? Is it is?
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: It is simply just we're playing the Vikings and that's
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: all that matters. That's it, that's all. Or do you
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: allow yourself to think, yes, obviously we're coaching to beat
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: the Vikings. But let's think a little big picture down
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: the road. How do you approach that?
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: I think I always approach it. Uh, we take that
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: and you know, or use cliche. One game at a time.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: You're put my pointing toward the Vikings and that's what
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: I'm pointing for, and we got to win that game.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Then we get ready for the next one. During that process, however,
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: you know, in the back of your mind, you're you're
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: looking at other ten other little things that you want
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: to improve upon, but you never establish that. You don't
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: say that to the team. The team focus on this week.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: This is the week you have to do it. And
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: but you know, it's funny. My first year in Seattle,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: you guys might remember this. We were eight and two
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: and then we got Joey Galloway back, thinking that would
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: really make the difference, and it screwed up everything. And
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: I think we lost five in a row and we
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: got into the playoffs, but we went through a stretch
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: there that was just painful, and so that you got
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: to avoid that take one game at a time.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean, coach, I don't know if we're
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: gonna get to talk to you before Thanksgiving or I
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: think we're taking Thursday and Friday off. So I'm thankful
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: for you. I'm thankful that you're here, thankful for everything
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: you give us. Same to you. Thank you go. And
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: yet I'm going to get to talk to you again.
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  Speaker 4: I think on Wednesday we're gonna I'm gonna dive into
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  Speaker 4: some stuff with you since gone, so we're gonna do
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  Speaker 4: a little round table, I think. But before we go,
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  Speaker 4: one thing, I'm planning on eating so much turkey Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 4: Saturday and Sunday that I made gobble when I come
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  Speaker 4: in here for our next Monday morning quarterback. Is there
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  Speaker 4: anything in particular that your mouth is watering for right now? Coach?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think I've said it before on this show.
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  Speaker 5: It says once a year when I've criticized Chuck for
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: putting out Christmas things before Thanksgiving. Okay, that's another story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but no, I love Thanksgiving. We don't have a lot
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  Speaker 5: of turkey during the year, and we do have some now.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny. My kids aren't that hot for turkey, but
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  Speaker 5: I am. So we're having it good. But I stuffing,
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  Speaker 5: oh good stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, some vegetables, in there
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  Speaker 5: to be healthy. But this year I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: have the candied yams.
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  Speaker 4: Hugh, oh love.
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  Speaker 6: With the coconut the top and the.
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  Speaker 5: Or that is that Christmas? Did I jump here ahead
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  Speaker 5: to Christmas?
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  Speaker 4: All the above?
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  Speaker 6: Please? Yes, you don't let candy yams, no matter what.
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  Speaker 6: Saint Patrick's Day, yes, May Day, yes, President's Day.
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  Speaker 4: Flag Day, candy yams.
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  Speaker 6: Indeed, you haven't presented a good reason to not have it,
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  Speaker 6: so I'm waiting.
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  Speaker 5: It's no, it's kind of like officials. I just have
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  Speaker 5: a feeling I don't like it. You know, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 6: We can agree on that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want coconuts sprinkled on any desserts. It's not good.
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  Speaker 6: All right, have a nice thanks? Well, yeah, thanks you good?
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  Speaker 6: I echo Bucky so good stuff. And hopefully on Monday
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  Speaker 6: I will have for sure a breakdown at JSN breakdown
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  Speaker 6: and will also be breaking down a win.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks. But happy Thanksgiving you guys, you too, Ashley Thanky, Thanksgiving?
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  Speaker 4: All right, Happy Thanksgiving all your listeners too, But you're
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: gonna still have to listen to us tomorrow and Wednesday.
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  Speaker 4: But thanks Coach, Thanks, Hugh, appreciate you guys coming on
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  Speaker 4: and doing what you do for Moneymoon Quarterback, everybody else
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