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Hey there, everybody, it's Jeff. I wanted to let you know that
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we recorded this preview show on Wednesday, November one, twenty twenty three.
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Can't believe we're in November anyway. Some things may have changed by the time
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you hear this, but we hope you enjoy the show. All right,
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everybody, you're listening to Opposition Territory here at the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show,
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over ten and a half years strong. We got a great discussion coming your
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way here on our Eagles and Cowboys preview podcast this week. Yes, Eagles
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Cowboys. Eagles seven and one heading into Week nine, Cowboys five and two.
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Both teams are on a two game win streak. Here, it's it's
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a battle for this NFC East. Eagles have the best record in the NFL
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at this point, but the Cowboys coming off a very decisive victory against the
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Los Angeles Rams. So we've got a great guest to get into this preview.
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Let's just do it right now. And it's great to have back on
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Joshow, how you doing, Buddy? Doing well? Jeff. Great to
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be with you once again. Apologies that neither of our team could advance past
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the CS round and watching the World Series. This really sucked. It really
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does. Man, It's It's god. I don't even want to talk about.
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I mean, Eric and I were just talking about. Lennon and I
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were talking about it last week on the show. A harp breaker for sure.
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I'm still in like that post mortem when it comes to the Phillies.
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I mean, I'm looking at this Diamondbacks team and I'm like, gosh,
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they should be there. It's incredible. I mean again I was I don't
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really hate the Phillies, but I hate the Eagles enough that it kind of
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ripples into it. But but the day after the Astros lost, the fact
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that the Diamondbacks won, I was partly happy, but it was also kind
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of like, man, that would that would have been? It? Like
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that if the Astros had just won, they'd have gone back to back,
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and so it's a bitter pill. The swallow definitely absolutely all right, Well,
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we're going to be getting into this Eagles and Cowboys matchup this Sunday,
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and it's god, it's gonna be one for the books. You know,
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as as it is every now and again year after year, that first matchup
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Eagles Cowboys game is always always an interesting barn burner, so to say so,
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as much as I hate to say this, RJ, to start us
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off here with this conversation, the Cowboys they just had They had a nice
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and decisive win over the La Rams this past week, and I'm thinking,
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holy Cowboy, they've really got their stuff together now. But there have been
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some struggles and challenges with this Cowboys team the first eight weeks of the season.
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I mean, we've seen this, you know, so when you analyze
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what you've seen thus far from this team, I'm wondering, what is the
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identity of the Dallas Cowboys this season as they're heading into Week nine in this
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matchup against the Eagles. Do you know what that idea? Can you really
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pinpoint it for us? You know, they say a lot of different things.
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It's really difficult to quantify because you know, they've played seven games and
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most of them have been blowouts that they've been on the positive side of more
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often than not. But they did get blown out against the forty nine Ers.
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They didn't get blown out against the Cargos, but that game got away
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from them so quickly that it wasn't kind of what they wanted to do.
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The only game that kind of went all ten rounds, so to speak,
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was the Monday night game against the Chargers, and it was a little bit
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closer to the best than I think anybody would have liked. And the Cowboys
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run thereby after that game, and a lot of our readers and listeners were
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actually really upset. I mean, you know that they won, but a
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lot of people were really displeased with how they played. I don't know how
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intensely you're watching that game, but Mike McCarthy kind of folded at the end
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of the first half, and everybody was really mad about that. Michael Gallup
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had ten targets and he's been so disappointing, so everybody was just kind of
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really mad at what appeared to be a really broken offense. And so to
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your point to come out last week and really show a lot of promising things.
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I think put some win back in everybody's sales, But then Tuesday's trade
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deadline and no action kind of depleted all of it. That's just kind of
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the way things go. I think their identity is they have a great defense
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that may not be the best in the NFL, but they can certainly do
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more than enough to win a game. And they're starting to find themselves on
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offense and find a group that can kind of go not shot for shot with
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the other side of the ball, but definitely be more than enough to where
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they can kind of be an overall complete team, and even on special teams.
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They're starting to kind of really settle in. They've discovered a tremendous diamond
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of the Rough and Grand and Aubrey, and so the air's pointing up in
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a lot of ways. But that's been the case many times in the past,
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and it's always kind of come out from under them. I kind of
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was surprised RJ that this Cowboys organization didn't make a move at the trade deadline,
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given certain areas on the team that you know, objectively speaking as an
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Eagles fan, I know that this Cowboys team needs some help here and there
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on offense, on defense as well. I'm wondering, you know, were
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you a bit surprised by it? Because I was surprised that they didn't make
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a move, not that they didn't try. I mean, right, I
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think there are three ways to feel about it. There's the opposite ends of
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the spectrum, and one is, you know, same old, same old,
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these losers, they didn't do anything, They just want to make a
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bunch of money. Then there's the like supremely hopeful fan that says, well,
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they traded for Gilmore and Cooks in the offseason and they did all their
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work. Then I think, like always, the truth is, you know,
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somewhere in the middle. I think that and the way I wrote it
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this was there are I think five consensus teams that are competing in the NFC
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to win it. Obviously in whatever order you ought to put them. The
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Eagles, Niners, Lions, Seahawks, and Cowboys and the other four all
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made a move. And I'm not all due respect Donovan People's jones, I'm
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not here to say that like that's the move the Cowboys have to keep pace
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with, right but right, but everybody did something like everybody, even if
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you define all of those moves to be bettering their teams by one percent,
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like every team got one percent at least better theoretically, and so that Dallas
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sat on their laurels is a bit frustrating, and I think it's also frustrating
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for them to act. We gave them their credit, We gave them their
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flowers over the off season when they traded for Gilmore and Cooks. We said,
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all right, cool, you're operating like an elite front office now.
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Respect, but you got to keep your foot on the gas. And that's
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that's where I think people are the most disappointed that they didn't, that they
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feel like they're good, and that they passed these opportunities. I'm obviously more
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afraid of San Francisco than I am Philadelphia at this point. And to see
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them get Chase Young, he was never gonna, you know, wind up
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in Dallas. But again, it's the principle of it, all right,
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that you know, how could you not find a way to you know,
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because the other thing is when you made those trades in the off season,
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Trayvon Diggs didn't have a torn acl lighton. Vanderish wasn't hurt. Michael Gallup
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wasn't disappointing, Tony Parter wasn't disappointing. All these new needs have arised that
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didn't necessarily exist back in March April. Yeah, you talk about, you
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know, the Cowboys needing to put their foot on the gas, and you
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know, with regard to the Philadelphia Eagles and these matchups that we see year
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after year, I mean, that's kind of what we see from both teams.
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Both teams really want to put their foot on the gas at this particular
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point in the season going up against each other. And we know how these
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NFC East games go our ja year after year. You and I have talked
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for a number of years now about how on any given Sunday anything can happen,
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especially in the NFC East. I mean, the Cowboys open as a
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three point underdog against the Eagles at the Link and as we know these teams,
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they like to split their games season by season. We've seen it time
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and time again. What's one area of this Cowboys team you don't think the
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Eagles will be able to contain this Sunday? And why you know, Ceedee
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Lamb I wouldn't say asked, but implied that he wanted the ball more after
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the Cowboys lost to San Francisco. Yeah, it was. It was maybe
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the best way I've ever seen a I receiver do that. Like there was
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there like nobody, and some of it was that everybody kind of agreed with
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him, but nobody, you know, accused him of being a dev or
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anything like that, which is sort of a stigma of the position. And
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in the past two games, he's had two hundred and seventy five receiving yards,
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which is the most he's said in any two games stretch throughout his career.
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He's coming off of an incredible performance against the Rams, and he has
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really just kind of found himself. I mean, he had fourteen targets against
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the Rams. The next highest of any player was four that Brandon Cooks and
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Jake Ferguson each had. Yeah, And so I would I would say it's
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that like the defense kind of goes without saying. I don't mean to say
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or imply that Darius Slay or James Bradberrier washed or terrible, but they're not
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playing how they usually do. They're not right, and and so I think
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that's a that's an area that the Cowboys can hopefully attack, at least from
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my perspective, and especially if they've they've got this super nova player in Ceedee
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Lamb right now and in a quarterback who is capable of getting him the ball
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in Dak Prescott. So that's you know, if I had to put on
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my eggs and kind of one thing going right for them, it would certainly
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be that because I think a lot of people would have said Micah Parsons.
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But the game in Philly last year, I mean, the you know ever
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loved Jonathan Gannon obviously really neutralized him and he kind of wrote he I mean,
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look, I know that there are a lot of Eagles fans who have
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thoughts on him. He kind of wrote the book on how to neutralize Micah
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Parsons. And Micah was not a factor in last year's game in Philly at
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least, So I mean there are I think the guy was the final ways
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to win on defense, but I think it might be a little bit more
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or less obvious than sa CD on the offensive side. Yeah, this week's
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game plan for the Eagles, I think is going to be pretty interesting.
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I mean, watching watching the Eagles hardly run the ball last week in Washington,
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it was pretty surprising and pretty astonishing actually, and how they've gotten away
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from the run game given where they were the first couple games of this season.
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And while they came away with the win in Washington, a lot of
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US Eagle, a lot of US Eagles fans, and a lot of Eagles
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Nation, you know, we weren't. We weren't too pleased with the game
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plan and the script and what we saw in front of our faces. So
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I'm wondering, how do you think the Eagles off is going to attack vulnerabilities
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within the Cowboys defense? And will it be tough maybe through the air or
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or should I say, do you think they're going to try to do this
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through the air on the ground, maybe a combination of both. And why
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I think what makes the Eagles really successful and what really annoys me is how
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they can effectively run the ball almost at will. They cannot do it for
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an entire game and need one drive to kind of go salt things away or
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go get the score they need, and they're able to do it. And
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the Cowboys are still weak along the inside of their defensive line. They obviously
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spent their first round draft pick on Mazie Smith that hasn't taken hold. I
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mean, you know, if not everybody can draft Jaalen Carter and have the
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world kind of fall into their laps. And so I certainly anticipate that being
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a point that I would, you know, look to expose, especially if
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you have the interior offensive line strength at Philadelphia does. And if I'm being
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frank, and again, I you know, this is a fun week and
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it's always fun to poke and things like that, but Jalen Hurts is kind
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of a turn over machine right now, Like I would not want to put
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the ball in his hands against the defense that is incredibly opportunistic. I mean,
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Deron Bland has had three pick sixes this year alone, and that's a
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weird phenomenon and not something you can totally bank on. But this is a
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defense that thrives on taking the ball away. So I would look to avoid
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that. And you can call that conservative, you can call that whatever you
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want. But at the end of the day, a win is a win,
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and obviously that's the primary objective for Philly this week. Absolutely, And
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I think now we got to talk about matchups here in this preview show.
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Here matchups and specifically in the trenches. I can't year after year. You
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know, these two teams, you know, they really are built a lot
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in the trenches, specifically Cowboys offensive line the Eagles defensive line. And we
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know what the Eagles offensive line has been giving this offense, this Eagles offense
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this season. Here, I mean, the Cowboys defense has generated eighteen sacks
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so far this season, and we know this Eagles offensive line has given up
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nineteen sacks thus far, pretty much right in the middle of the pack with
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regard to sacks allowed. RJ. How as the Cowboys defense, or I
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should I said, like, how is the Cowboys defensive line going to penetrate
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this Eagles offensive line and really try to get to Jalen Hurts to possibly get
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those turnovers that you were just talking about. There's gonna be a real battle
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in the trenches here. What are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean,
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I think this really just depends on where dan Quinn wants to risk things and
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on where he wants to place his bets because Hurts is so capable of getting
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out of the pocket, and you know that's that was again a big reason
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why Micah didn't really have an impact on last year's game at the link,
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and so I don't know that you want to sell out that way over and
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over and over again, because he's a player who can certainly be too,
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even if he is hobbled or whatever the case is with him in his injury
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that he doesn't want to speak of anymore. And I get it he's probably
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pretty annoyed. But we've seen Dan Quinn utilize Michael Parsons all over the place.
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He's rushed from inside, he rushes from outside. Two weeks ago,
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I guess three weeks ago against the Chargers, he had to play a little
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bit more off ball linebacker like at Penn State, you know, since you
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guys haven't know how to use them properly in the aftermath of Leyton Vandersch getting
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hurt and so, you know, and a lot of people have advocated for
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that, just because the Cowboys have a little bit of depth at pass rusher.
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So it's kind of a matter of, hey man, why don't you
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put Micah in the middle of the defense where he can still make an impact
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and you're not really having any kind of you have a drop off when he's
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not rushing the pass. But if you've got to other guys who can get
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home, then you protect yourself. If jam Harts is able to get out
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of the pocket, then so, I mean, I would expect Mikeuld to
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be exhausted after this game. I do think the dan quinn is going to
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kind of move from around a number of different places because you have to.
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And I think there will be a lot of in game adjustments, certainly obviously
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after halftime, but I don't know. I think last year the Cowboys thought
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that they could just tidle wave, overwhelm the Eagles offensive line and get home,
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and they couldn't. And I think that they've hopefully learned from that and
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are prepared to kind of offer a variety of things on Sunday again, folks
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talking to Rjohow from sb NA specifically Bloggintheboys dot com and the sp Nation NFL
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show I listen on Apple Podcast. Give him a follow at Rjochoa on the
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Twitter dot com. No, I'm not calling it X yet, and I'd
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like to move along our discussion here. RJ to a specific running back who
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I thought was just going to take the league by storm this year and he
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hasn't, and that's Tony Pollard. And again, just a mind boggling type
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of year that I think he is having. He's ranked eight I'm sorry,
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sixteenth in total rushing with four hundred and twenty three yards on the season,
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only has two touchdowns three point nine yards per carry according to Pro Football Reference.
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What are some of Tony Pollard's challenges this season that you have been witnessing
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game after game and what do you expect from him going up against his Eagles
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defensive front. I don't mean to excuse Tony Park because he's been disappointing,
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but the Cowys have played seven games and they've only had their full out intended
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off ave alignment combination twice. The first game, ironically, was against the
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forty nine Ers, which didn't offer any semblance of help, and the other
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was against the Chargers obviously right before the buye. Tyrone Smith missed last week's
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game against the Rams, so that's why we didn't get three in a row.
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And so, I mean, some people are kind of chalking it up
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to the injury, the fractured fibula that he had in the division around last
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year not being totally right. A lot of people are quick to say,
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well, you know you can't handle being the bell cow and this and that
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that really wasn't an issue for him last year. I think this is a
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case where the offensive line situation is doing him no favors. I think prior
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to last week, Mike McCarthy wasn't doing him any favors. The Cowboys were,
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you know, the principles of the West Coast offenser to get the ball
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out quickly and out to the outside, and so, you know, I
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think a lot of teams were just kind of prepared to overwhelm Tony Part and
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they were succeeding. But I think at the end of the day, it's
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on Tony part. You're to your point. He was an incredibly explosive playmaker
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for them last year and we haven't really seen that. There hasn't really been
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even one moment that he has had, which is, you know a little
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bit concerning. But again, some people are willing to kind of chocolate up
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to those other factors, and so we know he's a talented player. But
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yeah, I think people are really hungry for, you know, some success
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there. But there's a lot of people chattering about wanting to see more of
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Rico Dawdle, who is his primary backup. He's actually probably looked more explosive
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in the small bit of work he's gotten to this point. So yeah,
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I mean, we had these discussions over at our network and stuff during the
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by and in terms of who had been the most disappointing players to this point
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in the season or that point, and Pollard was right there on the running
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just because we really you know, it's unrealistic to your point to expect like
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two thousand total yards from scrimmage or things like that, but nobody expected this.
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I mean, this is this is a little bit underwhelming. Are they
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using him at the goal line? Like just from the Cowboys games that I
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have seen, haven't necessarily seen a concerted effort to make sure that he is
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getting even on like first down, necessarily that opportunity to get in the end
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zone if they are within you know, within ten yards of the goal line.
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Just I'm not sure I'm seeing it. And and only two touchdowns on
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the season, It's like, oh my gosh, what's going on here.
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I think that they've at least prior to the last couple of weeks, had
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gotten a little bit in their head. I don't know how much you had
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monitored this, but they had these red zone issues. They couldn't get it
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done in the red zone. They were scoring from beyond the arc all the
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time, but the layups and free throws were just kind of a huge bother
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from them, and so they were making things a little bit more difficult on
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themselves trying to be a little bit too cute. Things really stabilized for them
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and to win against the Chargers, not that they scored a lot of points,
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but and then you know, last week against the Rams, everything they
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touched turned to gold, and so some of it I think was just kind
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of the overall, you know, issues that they were having as a red
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zone offense, and that impacted everybody. You know, name Lee, Tony
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Pard, but they have used unter Lipke in the red zone, who is
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kind of their big body guy right now. Everybody was so concerned in the
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off season, what are you going to do without Zeke Elliott, you know,
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down near the goal line, and that narrative has a bit of life
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because of this. But I mean, I don't think there's a rational Cowboys
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out there who misses Zeke. We all wish him well, but nobody is
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feeling like this offense is lacking because he's not a part of it. Right,
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all right, Well, as we end our Opposition Territory show and podcast
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preview show with you RJ, every week, we ask our guests these two
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questions, and I'm going to start off with this first one. What's the
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one thing the Cowboys are going to need to hit on for a win this
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week against Philadelphia Eagles at the link. You know, it's a little bit
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of an if thing, but if Jalen Hurts does continue with the turnovers,
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I think they have to cash in and that's the most important thing. And
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I was so genuinely interested to see the Eagles play game down double digits,
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and they obviously fell down last week fourteen to three, so it's really annoying
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to see them successfully overcome that. But if they're able to, you know,
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if Jalen Hurts throws two picks or has a fumble or whatever the case
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may be, and they're able to score, they're able to get in the
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end zone as a result of it, I think that that's enough. I
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think that they're a more talented team to be able to kind of survive call
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it a fourteen to three lead than Washrington was. But you know, you
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never know. Again, you can't ever count these Eagles out and so that's
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that's the most important thing to me. And if you're not able to generate
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turnovers, you have to generate them in your own way. You have to
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get these third down stops. You cannot allow these long drives. You cannot
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give this Eagles team opportunities because if you keep giving them life, they're going
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to find a way. And so you have to force turnovers, even if
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they aren't literal, if that makes sense. And third and long for the
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Eagles has certainly been a thing at least over these past few games for sure.
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And if Dallas is able to stop them with their prolific defense, it
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could be a long day for the Eagles for sure. On the flip side
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of the coin, here, r J, what's the one thing the Eagles
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are going to need to hit on for a win against the Cowboys. It
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remains to be seen if Tyrann Smith is going to play. And I think
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that's the low hanging fruit answer. He's I think annoyed a lot of Cowboys
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fans with you know, how unreliable he is. It's just it's just where
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he's at in his career, and it's you know, you can't you can't
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get rid of Tyrann Smith because he's Tyrann Smith. But you know, it
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creates a sense of awkwardness. I know that that was the matter with Jason
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p and to a small degree now with Lane Johnson certainly. But I think
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the real answer would probably be if you can neutralize Michael Parsons again. I
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mean that that is, you know, Dallas made that game in Philly somewhat
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close, kind of cute, competitive in the second half, but it was
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never really within reach for them, and the big reason for that was the
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Michael Parsons effect, or really the lack thereof. If he can be taken
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out of this game, I mean, yeah, the Cowboys have other defensive
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players who I'm really high on and believe in to a high degree, but
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I mean, he's the guy, He's the engine. I mean, he
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is the rising tide. And if you know, Philly's able to take him
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out of the game, I wonder who will be that dude who steps up
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and who will be that person who kind of generates whatever pressure may be on
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Jalen Hurts or anybody else. Otherwise, Folks, he's our Jocho from SB
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Nation again Bloggingtheboys Dot com the esp Nation NFL Show. Follow him on Twitter
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at Rjoho rj as always, buddy, it was great talking to you.
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Thanks so much for taking the time here, and let's talk again down the
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road, my friend. Yeah, thanks for having me Jeff, health,
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wealth, and happiness to you and the family as always. But like complete
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and total utter sports misery, Like I don't even want the sixers to be
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good, Like I want you to be completely and totally sports sad in every
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single shape, way or form. I hope that they I hope something happens
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that makes you hate the Rocky franchise like I just I want no sports happiness.
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Oh, I'm tired. Okay, it's been a thee all right,
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we've been doing this podcast over ten and a half years. Here, our
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j I know that was supposed to be the outro, but we're gonna go
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a little deep here. When we first started this ten and a half years
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ago, we were complaining about the Rocky stuff. Enough with Rocky already,
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folks, enough with Rocky. I have completely sympathetic with you on this,
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my friend. Yeah. I mean it's cool, don't get me wrong,
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but it's cool for the first like oh sixteen times like, we don't need
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the shot of the statue when the Eagles are on Sunday Night football anymore,
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you know what I mean, Like like, let's get rid of that.
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Let's get rid of tossing the fishes in Seattle, you know what I mean,
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Like all that kind of stuff. We've been there, We've done that.
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Let's find in material to work with. RJ. Philadelphia has Joe Frasier.
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For the love of all that is good and holy, we don't need
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a fictional characters to see their statue constantly over and over. We have Joe
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Frasier. Hey, you know what, I don't like Jefe Fraser either,
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Just any anybody for I'm not a fan of can't do it. Sorry,
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always fantastic talking to RJ. And I'm glad we can get together toward the
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end of our discussion to talk about Rocky and my gosh, let's just stop
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it already with Rocky. I'll tell you it's been years since we've had that
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type of discussion here on the PSD podcast show. Lennon and I used to
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talk about it. Eric and I used to talk about it so many years
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ago. We may have to resurrect one of those conversations. But in the
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meantime, we've got this Eagles Cowboys game this coming Sunday, late afternoon,
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early evening. It's gonna be an interesting one for sure, and really help
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I think define what this NFC East is going to look like. So again,
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thanks to RJ and folks. Anything happens to your podcast feed out there,
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Coano, head on over to Philadelphia Sports Table dot com. We've got
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