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- 0:00Have you ever really stopped to think about words like culture
- 0:03or soft power? We use them all the time,
- 0:06especially when we talk about international relations.
- 0:08But do we always grasp just how layered they are?
- 0:12Turns out there's a whole lot going on beneath the surface.
- 0:15Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today we're unpacking A
- 0:18fascinating stack of sources on culture, power, and global
- 0:23understanding. Our mission?
- 0:25To cut through some of the noise, maybe reveal a few
- 0:27surprises, and hopefully give you a more nuanced take on these
- 0:30really foundational concepts, especially useful if you're into
- 0:33international relations and politics.
- 0:35Oh, and before we dive in, just a quick note.
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- 0:40International Relations by Bastian Freiborg.
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- 0:52description. OK, so let's start with culture.
- 0:57We use that word constantly. It seems pretty straightforward,
- 1:00right? But our sources immediately
- 1:02start questioning that. Why is it so, well, slippery,
- 1:05even for academics? It's fascinating, honestly,
- 1:07because the very act of talking about different cultures, you
- 1:10know, defining them, can sort of accidentally reinforce
- 1:13separations. It can even imply a kind of
- 1:17hierarchy. One source highlights that
- 1:19historically there have been literally hundreds of
- 1:21definitions. Think about that Kroeber and
- 1:24click on found over 160 way back in 1952.
- 1:28Wow, 160. Yeah, and even by the 90s, there
- 1:31still wasn't really a solid consensus in academia about what
- 1:34culture truly is. It's just elusive.
- 1:36So it's not just a neutral label then.
- 1:38It's like when we say, you know, France has a culture, Japan has
- 1:42a culture. We often picture this neat,
- 1:44contained, timeless thing. Exactly.
- 1:47And one source points out that anthropology itself, the
- 1:50discipline studying culture, might have sometimes helped
- 1:52build and maintain these quite rigid ideas, a bit like how the
- 1:56concept of race was used historically to fix differences
- 1:58between people. That's a heavy comparison.
- 2:00It is, but the point is about how these concepts can freeze
- 2:04difference. Even if we now understand
- 2:06differences as multiple and not necessarily hierarchical, the
- 2:10idea of distinct cultures can still kind of trap them, denying
- 2:13them history or change. Think Orientalism.
- 2:16That whole way, the West constructed A simplified, often
- 2:19distorted view of the East, mapping everything on to fixed
- 2:23categories. Right.
- 2:24Freezing them in time, almost. Precisely.
- 2:26Which leads to a really interesting question.
- 2:29What if we try to actively write against culture?
- 2:32How would you? Even do that.
- 2:33Well, anthropologist Leela Abulukud suggest something
- 2:37called ethnographies of the particular.
- 2:39So instead of making these sweeping statements about entire
- 2:42groups. You focus small.
- 2:44Exactly. You focus on specific
- 2:45individuals, their lives, their relationships.
- 2:47The idea is to use these stories she calls a tactical humanism,
- 2:51to reveal the power dynamics underneath and sort of dismantle
- 2:55those rigid cultural boxes. It's a way to get past
- 2:57assumptions of everyone in a group being the same.
- 3:00That idea of freezing differences is powerful.
- 3:03So if our definitions are shaped like this, what does it mean for
- 3:07how we understand ourselves and others?
- 3:10Well, it suggests our sense of self isn't just natural, it's
- 3:13constructed. And often building that self
- 3:16involves defining it against another.
- 3:18Which can be inherently problematic.
- 3:20It can carry a kind of violence, Yeah, by downplaying or ignoring
- 3:24internal differences or differences within the other,
- 3:27the sources mentioned. Feminists and happies, you know,
- 3:30people with mixed cultural backgrounds from migration or
- 3:32maybe international education. They're very experiences kind of
- 3:36challenge these neat self author divides and anthropology.
- 3:39They highlight the power involved in drawing those lines.
- 3:43And if we zoom out and connect this to international relations,
- 3:46well, suddenly it makes sense why traditional theories like
- 3:48realism or liberalism kind of sidelined culture for so long.
- 3:52Right, they were focused elsewhere.
- 3:53Completely. They looked at the hard stuff,
- 3:55military might, state security, economic interests, culture just
- 3:59didn't seem like a primary driver in that view.
- 4:02It is surprising though, looking back, that they'd ignore it so
- 4:04much. Why the big comeback now?
- 4:07You mentioned constructivism, the English school, critical
- 4:10theory. What are those mainstream
- 4:13theories missing? They were missing the social
- 4:15fabric, really, the shared ideas, the norms, the identities
- 4:20that actually shape how states act.
- 4:22This comeback acknowledges that culture is, well, crucial if you
- 4:27want to understand why political events happen beyond just the
- 4:30dollars and cents or the military balance.
- 4:32So even anarchy isn't just anarchy.
- 4:33Exactly. Even the concept of
- 4:35international anarchy, the lack of a world government, can have
- 4:39its own political culture. Realism, for example, with its
- 4:42constant focus on conflict and self-interest, arguably fosters
- 4:46a culture of distrust between states.
- 4:48Whereas liberalism. Liberalism's emphasis on
- 4:50cooperation on international institutions potentially build a
- 4:53different kind of culture, maybe one closer to an international
- 4:56community. It's all about the underlying
- 4:59normative environment, the shared beliefs about what's
- 5:02acceptable or expected behavior. And it goes deeper than just
- 5:04state interactions, right? You mentioned critical theory.
- 5:07Yes, critical theory digs into something really subtle but
- 5:10powerful. It argues that modern capitalism
- 5:13doesn't just rely on economics to keep going, it uses culture.
- 5:17How so? Often by creating what they call
- 5:19false needs. Think consumerism that distract
- 5:22us from deeper inequalities or social problems.
- 5:25Critical theory is very focused on ethics, on what should be It
- 5:29aims to reduce global inequality, respect diversity
- 5:32and foster dialogue, aiming for what Gramsci called a mutual
- 5:36culture. This links nicely to identity
- 5:38politics, doesn't it? It's not just one side of the
- 5:40spectrum. Not at all.
- 5:42One of our sources discusses Nil's whole TUGS work, making
- 5:45the point that identity politics isn't exclusively left wing or
- 5:48postmodern. It exists on the right too, and
- 5:51it can be compatible with liberal ideas.
- 5:53But it's a double edged sword. Definitely, it can be a tool to
- 5:56expand opportunities for marginalized groups, which is
- 5:58positive. But it can also potentially
- 6:01fragment society if it becomes too divisive.
- 6:05And this feeds directly into constructivism, the idea that a
- 6:08state's identity, its beliefs about itself and others, is
- 6:11fundamentally shaped by culture, and that identity in turn
- 6:15dictates its interests and its foreign policy.
- 6:18Ignoring that, constructivists say, means you're missing a huge
- 6:22piece of the puzzle. OK, let's switch gears slightly.
- 6:24Let's talk soft power, Joseph Nye's term.
- 6:27It's been everywhere, and I are for decades now.
- 6:30It sounds so appealing, right? Influence through attraction,
- 6:33not force, almost. Yeah, it does sound nice.
- 6:35Yeah, Nye introduced it back in 1990 and bound to lead.
- 6:39His core idea was that a state could make its power seem
- 6:41legitimate, attractive, so others want to follow its lead
- 6:44because they admire its culture, its values, its policies.
- 6:47And the context was key then. Absolutely.
- 6:50He was arguing against the idea that America was declining after
- 6:53the Cold War ended. He suggested the US could stay
- 6:56on top, not just through military might but by shaping
- 6:58international norms through this soft power.
- 7:01But as our sources show, it's not that simple.
- 7:04Even Nye himself saw its limits. You mentioned Turkey.
- 7:07Right. In 2015, Nye noted that Turkey
- 7:10soft power seemed to be declining, and he linked it
- 7:13directly to domestic issues. Less soft power, less democracy,
- 7:17as he put it, after some significant internal political
- 7:20changes there. So it's not static, it's tied to
- 7:23what's actually happening inside the country.
- 7:25Exactly. And that's kind of where the
- 7:26criticism comes in. The The concept became so
- 7:29popular, such a buzzword, that some argue it lost its
- 7:32analytical edge. How so?
- 7:34Well, critics say it can become a bit of a rhetorical tool may
- 7:38be prone to creating stereotypes.
- 7:40Countries might focus on promoting, say, Japanese manga
- 7:43or Indian Bollywood or China's Confucius Institutes.
- 7:46Thinking that translates directly into political clout,
- 7:49right? But does it?
- 7:51Yeah, that source calls it analytical blurring.
- 7:53It kind of obscures the real, often harder power dynamics at
- 7:56play. It does make you wonder, OK,
- 7:58Turkish soap operas are huge in the Middle East.
- 8:00Does that cultural capital actually convert into political
- 8:03capital? Well, one study looked at
- 8:04exactly that, Turkish soap exports to the Middle East, and
- 8:09found basically no systematic link between how popular the
- 8:12shows were and whether people supported Turkey's foreign
- 8:15policy. So wearing jeans doesn't mean
- 8:18you automatically love US foreign policy.
- 8:20Pretty much. It highlights a crucial point
- 8:23about reception. Audiences aren't just empty
- 8:26vessels soaking up messages. They interpret, they decode,
- 8:29they sometimes even twist messages to fit their own views
- 8:31or agendas. They have their own arts of
- 8:34doing, as one theorist put. It can you give an example of
- 8:36that? Sure, the Gulen Movement School
- 8:39in Africa. They were intended partly as a
- 8:41Turkish soft power initiative. But sometimes the students own
- 8:45goals or agendas clashed with what Turkey intended.
- 8:49In some cases it actually led to feelings of rejection, not
- 8:51attraction. Wow, so it can backfire it?
- 8:54Absolutely can. It just shows the complexity,
- 8:56the unpredictable interplay between state intentions,
- 8:59private actors like schools or media companies, and, crucially,
- 9:02how domestic politics effects a country's image and influence
- 9:05abroad. OK, so soft power is
- 9:07complicated, maybe even a bit messy.
- 9:10But let's flip to a possibly more optimistic angle.
- 9:15Our sources also talk about straightforward cultural
- 9:17exchange. You know, the actual interchange
- 9:19of ideas, beliefs, traditions. Yes, and this deep dive points
- 9:23to some really practical frameworks for making that work
- 9:25effectively, Things like intercultural communication
- 9:28competence, ICC and cultural intelligence, or CQ.
- 9:33OK, break those down a bit. ICC and CQ.
- 9:35So ICC is largely about adapting how you communicate,
- 9:39understanding different styles and building empathy across
- 9:42cultures. CQ Cultural intelligence is more
- 9:45about being effective in diverse cultural settings.
- 9:48It involves things like metacognition.
- 9:50Thinking about your thinking. Yeah, basically being aware of
- 9:52your own cultural assumptions, plus having the right knowledge,
- 9:56the motivation to engage and adapting your behavior
- 9:58appropriately. These are really vital skills in
- 10:01our globalized world. They lead to better
- 10:03relationships, less misunderstanding.
- 10:05And we see this happening on the ground, right?
- 10:06Like that group in Canada? Exactly.
- 10:08The Saskatoon Niger Delta Forum, about 300 members, mostly
- 10:12Nigerian migrants. Their whole motto is bridging
- 10:16cultures, nurturing diversity. And at a place like Canada, with
- 10:20such high immigration leading the G7 and population growth in
- 10:232022 because of it, this kind of thing is incredibly relevant.
- 10:27What do they actually do? Well, they organized this
- 10:30retreat, stepping out specifically to help members
- 10:33integrate into Canadian society while also keeping their own
- 10:36cultural traditions alive. They share traditional food,
- 10:40planting pepper soup, a goosey soup.
- 10:42They showcase unique dress styles.
- 10:44It's a great example of a diaspora community enriching
- 10:46their new home while staying connected to their roots.
- 10:49It really underlines those core benefits, doesn't it?
- 10:51Fostering understanding, respect, maybe even promoting
- 10:55stability in the long run. Absolutely.
- 10:57And stimulating economic growth through things like tourism and
- 11:00trade, preserving heritage, the list goes.
- 11:02On, But it's not all smooth sailing, presumably.
- 11:05No, definitely not. The sources are clear on the
- 11:08challenges, too. Language barriers are obvious.
- 11:11Then there's culture shock. Potential ethical dilemmas deal
- 11:15with stereotypes, even accidental cultural
- 11:17appropriation. So it requires effort, real,
- 11:19respectful effort. Exactly.
- 11:21Genuine exchange has to be reciprocal and respectful.
- 11:25You have to acknowledge that communication is harder when
- 11:27norms and expectations differ so much.
- 11:31Which brings us to maybe the trickiest arena, multilateral
- 11:36diplomacy. How does all this cultural
- 11:38diversity play out when the stakes are really high?
- 11:41And the sources suggest it has a huge impact, right?
- 11:43Because fundamental ideas might mean different things.
- 11:46Profoundly different things sometimes.
- 11:48Take human rights. It's a concept everyone
- 11:50endorses, at least on paper. But the interpretation varies
- 11:52wildly. Massively, the Western European
- 11:55focus on individual rights is quite different from many non
- 11:58western traditions that historically put more emphasis
- 12:00on the group, the community or duties.
- 12:03So you can have agreement on the surface term human rights, but
- 12:07deep culturally rooted disagreements simmering
- 12:09underneath. Which can lead to that cultural
- 12:11posturing you mentioned. Precisely where nations sort of
- 12:15perform their cultural identity to assert themselves or resist
- 12:19what they see as others imposing their views, it can really
- 12:22hinder actual negotiation. And historically, the system
- 12:25itself wasn't neutral. No international law.
- 12:28International organizations. They were largely shaped by
- 12:31Western European cultural norms and assumptions.
- 12:34This historical imbalance can lead to dominant cultures trying
- 12:37to push their perspectives while other cultures push back, maybe
- 12:40in forms where they have a majority, like the UN General
- 12:43Assembly sometimes. So this dynamic fuels division.
- 12:46It can, yeah. It can encourage nations to
- 12:48emphasize their cultural uniqueness, sometimes leading to
- 12:51internal conflicts spilling over or these big good versus evil
- 12:55narratives globally. The source mentions the
- 12:57perceived clash between Islamic fundamentalism and aspects of
- 13:01AUS worldview as a dangerous example risking confrontation.
- 13:04It sounds almost like a new Cold War, but fought on multiple
- 13:07cultural fronts. That feels risky.
- 13:09It is risky. It highlights why diplomats and
- 13:12politicians desperately need more cultural awareness, more
- 13:16sensitivity, to avoid getting stuck in these kinds of
- 13:19standoffs, paralyzed by cultural difference.
- 13:22Is there any way forward? Does technology help?
- 13:25Interestingly, yes, the sources suggest ICT's Information and
- 13:28Communication Technologies could be a valuable tool.
- 13:31How? By letting diplomats chat
- 13:34online. Sort of, yeah.
- 13:36By facilitating more informal, continuous interactions between
- 13:39formal meetings, it could help reduce the need for that public
- 13:42cultural posturing and allow diplomats to get a better feel
- 13:46for their counterparts actual cultural attitudes and
- 13:48assumptions beforehand. So building understanding behind
- 13:51the scenes. Exactly, moving towards
- 13:53compromise and consensus rather than just sticking rigidly to
- 13:561's own culturally biased position.
- 13:58Wow, we've really covered a lot of ground here, from digging
- 14:01into what culture even means to the promises and pitfalls of
- 14:05soft power and the complexities of cultural exchange and
- 14:08diplomacy. It's definitely not simple
- 14:10stuff. Not at all.
- 14:11We've seen how these cultural dynamics shape everything from
- 14:14our personal sense of self and other right up to foreign policy
- 14:17decisions and how nations interact on the global stage.
- 14:20It really underscores how important critical thinking is,
- 14:23you know, questioning assumptions in this
- 14:26hyperconnected world. So here's something to chew on.
- 14:29If culture itself can be used to divide and rank people, and soft
- 14:33power isn't always as benign as it sounds, what does it
- 14:35genuinely mean to build global understanding, especially when
- 14:39every perspective is, as one source put it, a positioned
- 14:42truth? How do we celebrate diversity
- 14:44without just reinforcing old power structures?
- 14:47And maybe more personally, what role can each of us play in
- 14:50challenging those assumptions in our everyday lives, in our own
- 14:53interactions? Lots to think about there.
- 14:55Thank you so much for joining us on this deep dive.
- 14:57We really hope this exploration has given you some new
- 15:00perspectives, maybe some new tools for navigating our complex
- 15:03world, particularly if international relations is your
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