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Mom says she killed girl because she was too busy to handle daughter; Dogs left to freeze in arctic blast · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Serious x M Triumph
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Speaker 1: Channel one thirty two. I can't find my daughter Fine
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Speaker 1: Ming Ming Chin eventually admits that she beat her daughter
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Speaker 1: to death in a fit of rage in the kitchen
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Speaker 1: of their home in North Camp just kind of pretty well. Children,
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Speaker 1: there's like no words, like I don't even know how
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Speaker 1: you know you described that a little five year old girl,
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Speaker 1: Ming Ming struck the girl's head against the floor. Your
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Speaker 1: father cleaned her up and then unsuccessfully tried to revive
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Speaker 1: from so many regulars to this business, so many people
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Speaker 1: who interacted with this little girl. They told me she
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Speaker 1: was happy and social and always talking to customers. That
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Speaker 1: so many of those customers made connections with this precocious
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Speaker 1: little five year old and they were trying to help
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Speaker 1: police find her. To have a child five years old
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Speaker 1: die at the hands of the person that we all
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Speaker 1: leave is the one person that will protect us no
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Speaker 1: matter what, it's just unfathomable. I remember when Lucy and
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Speaker 1: John David we're five years old. I wish they were
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Speaker 1: five years old again. I wish you could start it
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Speaker 1: all over again, because it's been the best ten years
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Speaker 1: of my life. But they were so tiny and so precious.
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Speaker 1: I look back at the pictures of them at age five,
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Speaker 1: and that makes it very difficult for me to reconcile
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Speaker 1: a gorgeous little five year old girl murdered and found
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Speaker 1: hidden in a Chinese restaurant. How are you hidden in
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Speaker 1: a Chinese restaurant? I mean, how can that happen? What?
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Speaker 1: They hide the little girl's dead body under a table
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Speaker 1: and nobody notices? How do you hide a child in
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Speaker 1: a Chinese restaurant and she's not found. When I first
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Speaker 1: heard about this child's disappearance, we got on it. The
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Speaker 1: little girl Ashley missing hidden in the family restaurant of
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Speaker 1: Ang's Asian Cuisine in North Canton, Ohio. I, Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: We want justice. I don't want Ashley's murder in the
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Speaker 1: hiding of her body to go unnoticed, as if it
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Speaker 1: never happened, her being just another statistic that goes on
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Speaker 1: the FBI list of how many child murders there were.
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Speaker 1: Somehow I want her name to be remembered, because I'm
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Speaker 1: going to remember it all start at the beginning. Joining
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Speaker 1: me my longtime friend Jane Vellez Mitchell, founder of Jane
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Speaker 1: Unchained dot com journalist, animal rights activists and investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: Dr Patricia Saunders, psychologist, joining me out of Manhattan. Vincent Hill,
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Speaker 1: a private investigator, and Ashley Wilcot, lawyer, child advocate and
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Speaker 1: founder of Child Crime Watch. You can find it on Facebook,
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Speaker 1: Alan and Jackie. Of course, everyone, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us as we dissect the case a little Ashley.
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Speaker 1: Let's start at the very beginning when Ashley goes missing? Allan,
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Speaker 1: what what happened? How was she reported missing? Well, there
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Speaker 1: was a nine one one call saying that she's missing,
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Speaker 1: and it started to search. Hold on, Allen, before you
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Speaker 1: go any further, let's take a listen to that nine
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Speaker 1: one one call and see what we keep learning. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what's going on? I can't find my daughter? Hey? How
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Speaker 1: old does she? Five? She just turned five? S's a topic? Okay?
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Speaker 1: And you at Ames? Thanks? Yeah. When the last time
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Speaker 1: you've seen it? Uh this afternoon probably at the time,
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Speaker 1: uh three? Maybe four? Wow? N five? You saw her
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Speaker 1: in five? What was she wearing? Okay? What what was
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Speaker 1: she wearing? She's wearing a purple winter code. Uh. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what those things are called, but they're not jeans.
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Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, what color were they? Grayish? Okay?
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Speaker 1: And you haven't seen it in five hours? About Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean she was there sleeping. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: where was she sleeping at? In the restaurant? You know,
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Speaker 1: she she was sleeping there. And I picked up my
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Speaker 1: older daughter from school. We all saw her sleeping there.
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Speaker 1: So and you know, we went to work and you know,
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Speaker 1: we let her sleep and we got busy, and then
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Speaker 1: uh uh after we got busy, and when we started
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Speaker 1: cleaning up, and and then you know, we opened her
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Speaker 1: door and she's not here. Okay. Alan, As I'm listening
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Speaker 1: to that NOIM on one call, I am looking at
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Speaker 1: photos of little Ashley and it's just killing me. I
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Speaker 1: want to go to the discovery of her body. Exactly
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Speaker 1: where was her body found? Alan? It was found in
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Speaker 1: her parents restaurant, and it was in the in the kitchen,
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Speaker 1: and it had been there during the whole search. It
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Speaker 1: had been right by the freezer. Yes, and there had
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Speaker 1: been a state wide search for it. Jane blas Mitchell
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Speaker 1: joining me. Jane, this brings back so many memories of
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Speaker 1: the whole state and turning into a nationwide search looking
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Speaker 1: for this five year old little girl, just absolutely beautiful,
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Speaker 1: the long dark hair, the big brown eyes, the big smile,
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Speaker 1: the perfect little teeth. The whole state was looking for her.
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Speaker 1: She's right there in Ang's Chinese cuisine the whole time.
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Speaker 1: How is it, Jane her parents didn't find her well
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Speaker 1: because the mother killed her. And the concession video is
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Speaker 1: absolutely chilling, Nancy, and it is just creating just a
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Speaker 1: fire store of outrage around the country because she's talking
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Speaker 1: to the investigator like, oh, a misplaced order or where
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Speaker 1: she didn't get the order right, and she just casually says,
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Speaker 1: I just killed her and I told my husband to
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Speaker 1: take care of it. Literally the emotionless. What's so shocking
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Speaker 1: is how casual she was, and it doesn't take long
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Speaker 1: for this investigator to break her. And you're right, there
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Speaker 1: are such chilling parallels to the case as any case
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Speaker 1: a mother's thanks please look for my child, and all
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Speaker 1: along she knew exactly where the trial was and um
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Speaker 1: was so blase and casual. Ashley Wilcot, lawyer and child advocate,
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Speaker 1: founder of child crime watch dot com on Facebook, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: have you listened to this woman's confession? I have the
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Speaker 1: mom gosh, and there's no emotion. It is absolutely crazy
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Speaker 1: to listen to because she does just say it like
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Speaker 1: it's another day in the park and it's not a
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Speaker 1: big deal. And she also stayed she didn't say she
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Speaker 1: even hid the body or had her husband hide the body. Instead,
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Speaker 1: she said, oh, I told my husband to dispose of
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Speaker 1: the body like a piece of trash. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: amazing to me luckily joining me as Vince and the
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Speaker 1: whole private investigator and Dr Patricia Saunders, a well known
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Speaker 1: psychologist out of New York. Guys, before I go any further,
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear exactly what they're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this shocking confession. I know, did
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Speaker 1: you're not crying? You said, I don't have nothing to last?
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Speaker 1: Is not beautiful. You don't have no tears left, You
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Speaker 1: don't have not left. Your daughter is dead? What happened?
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Speaker 1: How did you die? Just her? Did you hit her? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Dr Patricia Saunders, Boy do I need to shrink right now?
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Speaker 1: And so on so many levels, but let's just start
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Speaker 1: with this confession. Her affect is so flat, pat And
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Speaker 1: another thing that really struck me with what Jane Bles
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Speaker 1: Mitchell said, it was like it was like she had
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Speaker 1: a misplaced order at Ang's Asian Cuisine. It's just so casual.
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Speaker 1: I think it's any piece of this that is cultural, uh,
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Speaker 1: and has to do with the differences in language that
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Speaker 1: especially if she's from the provinces that the Chinese cultural
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Speaker 1: people tend to handle anxiety by freezing up and by
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Speaker 1: presenting a bland, blank face. But nonetheless it's still cold
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Speaker 1: as ice. It seems like this is a mom who
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Speaker 1: was simply did not bond with this child, and the
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Speaker 1: fact that it was a girl child in China makes
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Speaker 1: her garbage. You know what when he just said something,
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Speaker 1: I don't understand you don't bond, you know, but I
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Speaker 1: want another thing that Jane said earlier, she said this
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Speaker 1: reminds her of taught mom reminder top Mom never asked
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Speaker 1: anybody to find Keiley. It was the grandmother. Okay. So
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, Vincent Hill, private an investigator, why bothered call
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Speaker 1: nine one one. I mean, she killed a little girl
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Speaker 1: and she was hid there in her own restaurant as
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Speaker 1: people were eating. I mean she they were looking for
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Speaker 1: her for a long time, and as people were ordering
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Speaker 1: Chinese and eating and cooking and all that. The little
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Speaker 1: girl's body was in the restaurant. Yeah, Nancy, and I
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Speaker 1: think that call was based strictly on nothing but guilt.
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Speaker 1: He knew what they had done, knew you had to
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Speaker 1: report it before it went too long because too many
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Speaker 1: people would start asking questions. You went ahead and placed
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Speaker 1: the nine one one call. And I too, have seen
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Speaker 1: the confession video, and I I've set across an interrogation
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Speaker 1: table from some very hardened criminals who had more emotion
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Speaker 1: than this mother showed who had killed her, a little
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Speaker 1: five year old. I just couldn't believe it. Let's take
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Speaker 1: a listen to more of that confession, that chilling confession.
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Speaker 1: Did you hit her? Yeah? Okay? How? How? How? Yeah? Okay?
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Speaker 1: You know, um, Ashley Wilcott, you know very well that
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Speaker 1: the state never has to prove motive. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: law does not require a prosecutor to climb into the
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Speaker 1: mind of a killer, wander around and figure out why.
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Speaker 1: That's just not part of the burden on the state.
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Speaker 1: The state is to show who did it in the
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Speaker 1: correct jurisdiction and hopefully how that's what the state has
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Speaker 1: to prove. But practically speaking, Ashley Wilcot, don't you believe
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Speaker 1: the state needs to show motive as a practical matter, sure,
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Speaker 1: and I think that everybody wants to know why, because
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Speaker 1: you also want to know in the future, how can
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Speaker 1: we help prevent these kinds of crimes. And here's what's
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Speaker 1: fascinating in this case. This mother states, oh, she was
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Speaker 1: overwhelmed because the child was disobedience. And she even says, hey,
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Speaker 1: you can't control yourself sometimes, So I guess that's her
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Speaker 1: motive in this case. You know she's overwhelming. To me
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Speaker 1: that that could be her motive. You're exactly right. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to what murder mom says, I only have
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Speaker 1: two hands on the whole hands girl, on two hands.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to, but you can't control yourself sometimes.
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Speaker 1: I don't have four hands. I'm not four hands girl.
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Speaker 1: Did she just say that? Dr Patricia Saunders, I don't
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Speaker 1: have four hands. I'm afraid. So she expected if five
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Speaker 1: year are all to help out in the restaurant. But
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Speaker 1: listen to this. Listen to this, Vincent Hill, Private an investigator.
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Speaker 1: The mom who murders her little five year old girl
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Speaker 1: blames the grandparents. The grandparents, she shifts a little girl
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Speaker 1: back to China. I think for the summer and says
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Speaker 1: she comes home and is disobedient. Maybe she didn't want
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Speaker 1: to come home to a mom that beats her. Maybe
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Speaker 1: that's why she's disobedient. And when you beat a child,
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Speaker 1: what do you expect is going to happen? What do
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Speaker 1: you think is going to happen? Yeah, absolutely, Nancy, I
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Speaker 1: mean that was the biggest scapegoat, if you will, that
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Speaker 1: I've heard she was sent to her a grandparents house
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Speaker 1: and she came back disobedient. I mean, when my kids
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Speaker 1: were younger they went to my grandmother's house, did they
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Speaker 1: come back acting different? Absolutely? That's what all kids do
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Speaker 1: when they go to their grandparents house because they get spoiled.
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Speaker 1: But that does not justify norm Does that mean you
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Speaker 1: can just snap and lose it all because you have
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Speaker 1: a disobedient tow That's part of being a parent. Children
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Speaker 1: don't always listen to what their parents say. Let me
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Speaker 1: got a tip of where the reported missing girl might be.
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Speaker 1: So I know she didn't wander off on her own.
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Speaker 1: I knew something was wrong. I just was not expecting
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Speaker 1: to this breaking break, choked up. There's like no words,
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Speaker 1: like I don't even know how you know you describe
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Speaker 1: that a little five year old girl. The one thing
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Speaker 1: we wanted at the end of the day was, uh,
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Speaker 1: to recover that girl alive. Police say Chen struck her daughter,
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Speaker 1: Ashley jaw with her right fist multiple times so hard
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Speaker 1: it killed her. I'm just shocked. Um, just his personality,
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Speaker 1: he just does not seem that way. She was a
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Speaker 1: little more reserved than him. But again, nowadays, you never
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Speaker 1: know when this type of relie comes about. It's it
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Speaker 1: is really devastating. Um, and just are so sad for
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Speaker 1: that little girl. A gorgeous little five year old girl
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Speaker 1: murdered and found hidden. How do you hide a child
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Speaker 1: hidden in the family restaurant of Ang's Asian Cuisine in
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Speaker 1: North Canton, Ohio. The little girl Ashley. We now know
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Speaker 1: that the father of the little girl laying tried to
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Speaker 1: revive the child. What do we know, Jane Willis Michel,
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Speaker 1: about the cause of death of this five year old
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Speaker 1: little girl who was then stuffed in a corner and
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Speaker 1: hidden in a Chinese restaurant. Well, it was a fatal
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Speaker 1: brain injury, and you're right, Nancy. After it happened, and
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Speaker 1: prosecutors said it's not premeditated. She had essentially a fit
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Speaker 1: of anger and hid her child, and then they tried
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Speaker 1: to revive her. And when they couldn't revive her, the
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Speaker 1: wife says to the husband, take care of it, and
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Speaker 1: then he hides the body. So he's also with big
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Speaker 1: trouble and will do time. But what's really interesting is
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Speaker 1: this woman's backstory. She came here from China as an
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Speaker 1: illegal immigrant. She said she was persecuted in China because
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Speaker 1: she's a member of a meditation group uh Kalum Gung,
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Speaker 1: and they are they're basically persecuted in China. And then
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Speaker 1: she starts this restaurant. So I think she had a
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Speaker 1: very hard, hard life. Not to make excuses for her,
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Speaker 1: but I think a part of her just shut down
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Speaker 1: at a certain point and her values became confused. Keeping
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Speaker 1: the business running was her obsession, and the daughter came second, third,
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Speaker 1: or fourth. And the prosecutors also said that the husband
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Speaker 1: was abusive to both the wife and the child. So
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Speaker 1: on top of everything else she's gonna doing. Is that
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Speaker 1: what they say, that's what the defense says. Well, then,
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Speaker 1: of course here's what her defense lawyer has to say.
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Speaker 1: This couple in the family, Um, this led to violence
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Speaker 1: in the hall and the unfortunate stuff. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
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Speaker 1: Not to steal a line from the late Great Gomer Pile,
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Speaker 1: this is the way I see it. America gave her asylum,
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Speaker 1: They gave her the opportunity for a better life. She
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Speaker 1: married a bright young man. And I'm looking at their
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Speaker 1: wedding photos, which actually better than my wedding photos. And
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Speaker 1: she's got on a faux mink, white mink jacket, beautiful
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Speaker 1: pink roses. She's gorgeous. He's dressed up in the white
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Speaker 1: jacket tuxedo with the black pants with a matching flower
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Speaker 1: boutineer on his chest. They have a family business that
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Speaker 1: they own and operate, and then they get the greatest
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Speaker 1: blessing that God can give, I believe, and that is
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Speaker 1: a child, a beautiful child. She has it all everything.
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Speaker 1: That's the way I see it. Ashley Wilcot completely agree
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Speaker 1: with you, Nancy, and I have to say this, while
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Speaker 1: there are some allegations that the husband was abusive. She
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Speaker 1: does not, in her confession, act like what we typically
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Speaker 1: see as a victim. Now this doesn't mean all victims
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Speaker 1: act the same, but she doesn't present as a victim
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Speaker 1: or someone who's been um beaten and physically abused in
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Speaker 1: a victim of domestic violence. She she seems very certain
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Speaker 1: and sure of herself. No, I'm no doctor, but I
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Speaker 1: would just take that into account. You know, I worked
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Speaker 1: at the Battered Women Center for nine years while I
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Speaker 1: was a prosecutor, and I fully understand the battered women's syndrome.
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Speaker 1: And I sighed with battered women who don't have a
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Speaker 1: way out of their home life or can't see that
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Speaker 1: they have a way out. That in no way justifies
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Speaker 1: murdering your five year old little girl. No way. And
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Speaker 1: to bring that up to me and my mind is
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Speaker 1: an insult to this five year old little girl. I'm
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Speaker 1: not having it. I'm not accepting that as an excuse.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this. Did you're not crying? You said I
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Speaker 1: don't have nothing left. You told me you don't have
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Speaker 1: no tears left, You don't have nothing left. Your daughter
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Speaker 1: is dead? What happened? How did you die? Just hear
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Speaker 1: her and if she does, did you hit her? Yeah? Okay,
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Speaker 1: how did you? How did you hit her? How? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: And to do that, I I only have two hands
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Speaker 1: on the whole hand, girl, on two hands. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to do that. To add but you can't kind
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Speaker 1: of toll yourself sometimes. I told my husband, okay, kiding, okay,
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Speaker 1: So you're telling me that you told your husband. I
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Speaker 1: told my husband. Both parents arrested after the horrific discovery,
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Speaker 1: and it sounds like mommy's blaming everybody but herself. But
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Speaker 1: again back to Jane Villis Mitchell's observation that when she
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Speaker 1: called in on nine one one, she acted like she,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe lost one of her orders, one of
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Speaker 1: her Chinese food orders. Well, the judge had harsh words
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Speaker 1: for her. I find it difficult to imagine the horror
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Speaker 1: for your child, Ashley, barely five years old, barely five
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Speaker 1: years old, the void of love, the complete absence of protection,
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Speaker 1: the presence of such anger, the horror of being beaten
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Speaker 1: by her own mother. And I use the word mother
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Speaker 1: with great pain. I find when talking to you it's insulting.
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Speaker 1: Two mothers who do what they are supposed to do
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Speaker 1: for their children no number of years is enough. A
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Speaker 1: hundred years is not enough. We can't do anything to
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Speaker 1: help five year old Ashley now, but let me give
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Speaker 1: you this number. Now. It's for child Help. I know
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Speaker 1: the ladies that I personally know, the ladies that started
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Speaker 1: child Help, and I'm very impressed with them Allan. What
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Speaker 1: is the toll free number for child Help? It's their
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Speaker 1: national child abuse hotline one eight hundred for a child
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Speaker 1: or one hundred four to two four four five three,
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Speaker 1: or find him at child help dot Org. One eight
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Speaker 1: blood pressure? I am, because just the other day it
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Speaker 1: was over the holiday, Ashley. I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: saw this, But a local newscaster just dropped dead, like
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Speaker 1: I've prosecuted so many child abuse cases I can't even
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Speaker 1: for themselves, that cannot defend themselves. Now a spate of
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Speaker 1: publicity surrounding the torture and death of another of our
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Speaker 1: society is helpless and that is man's best friend dogs.
26:57
Speaker 1: I was shocked when I read a story about a
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Speaker 1: dog found frozen solid after being left outside chaining its
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Speaker 1: kennel for a month. Um right now, Alan, you're telling
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Speaker 1: me what the temperatures are outside? What what are they? Alan?
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Speaker 1: It is actually colder on the some parts of the
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Speaker 1: northeast US than it is on the surface of Mars today,
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Speaker 1: and we know that's not good. Police investigating the death
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Speaker 1: of a dog chained outside a Connecticut home in bitter cold,
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Speaker 1: bitter cold, and found frozen inside it's doghouse on Year's Day.
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Speaker 1: The Hertford Cops say the dog may have been outside
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Speaker 1: as long as a month. The little dog frozen solid
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Speaker 1: when the officers got there, according to Deputy Chief Brian Foley.
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Speaker 1: It's just heart breaking. Um w t i C TV reported.
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Speaker 1: A veterinary assessment says the dog had been lying in
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Speaker 1: fecal material, which was found frozen onto its body. J
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Speaker 1: vlls Mitchell joining me from Jane Unchained dot com. Jane,
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Speaker 1: what happened? The dog was apparently out there for months
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Speaker 1: because the dog's owner was in jail and had a
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Speaker 1: family member purportedly taking care of not only the dog
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Speaker 1: that was found frozen solid outside, but another dog that
28:46
Speaker 1: was found malnourished and shivering inside the home, and neighbors
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Speaker 1: say that essentially there was a burst water pipe inside
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Speaker 1: the home and somehow the dog ended up chained outside
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Speaker 1: because of that first water pipe. Why both of them
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Speaker 1: weren't outside are both inside and kept together is a mystery.
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Speaker 1: But imagine the mentality of a family member who's supposed
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Speaker 1: to take care of two dogs and then leaving that
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Speaker 1: dog not just outside, but change outside. This is a
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Speaker 1: torture killing this dog. It's seven degrees right now to
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Speaker 1: lead o Ohio. This dog was left outside for a
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Speaker 1: month and shade inside this dog. I mean, I can't
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Speaker 1: even imagine it. And unfortunately, Nancy, it's happening all over
29:35
Speaker 1: the country as this extreme cyclone bomb or whatever they
29:41
Speaker 1: want to call it of cold is enveloping a good
29:44
Speaker 1: part of the nation. We also have another case in
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Speaker 1: a New Hampshire of a woman charged with neglecting twenty
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Speaker 1: two German shepherds, leaving them in a barn with no
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Speaker 1: heat and with their water bowls frozen solid so I
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Speaker 1: couldn't drink the water. I mean, it's unimaginable. And I say, anybody,
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Speaker 1: when it comes to kids and dogs and animals in general,
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Speaker 1: be a nosy neighbor. If you see something like this,
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Speaker 1: call the cops, call the h Maine Society before a
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Speaker 1: dog freezes solid. To Dr Patricia Saunders, psychologists joining us,
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Speaker 1: how can people be so cruel to animals? And you know,
30:30
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it more and more and more cruelty to animals,
30:34
Speaker 1: But to die in this manner? You know, Patricia just
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Speaker 1: took the twins skating ice skating um in New York
30:43
Speaker 1: and it was so cold. I would make them come
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Speaker 1: in every fifteen minutes two get hot chocolate and warm up,
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Speaker 1: and had the little heating pads on their hands and
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Speaker 1: over their toes. And I can't imagine leaving a pat
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Speaker 1: outside like that. What's the thinking, Patricia, I don't even
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Speaker 1: know if it is thinking, Nancy, it's to me there
31:08
Speaker 1: isn't terribly much difference in the psychology of child abuse
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Speaker 1: and animal abuse. They're objectified as things, as possessions, not
31:19
Speaker 1: as feeling, being and thinking and faties. And we know
31:24
Speaker 1: that dogs in particular have the mental functions of a
31:28
Speaker 1: two year old human, and that they do experience motion.
31:32
Speaker 1: So it's unfathomable to me. Hill. As a private investigator,
31:37
Speaker 1: you've seen it all, and it seems to me this
31:39
Speaker 1: level of cruelty has got to seep into the rest
31:44
Speaker 1: of your life. Yeah, absolutely, Nancy. And what I can
31:49
Speaker 1: tell you when I was back in patrol police in
31:52
Speaker 1: the streets of Nashville, you know, it was not on
31:54
Speaker 1: common when I would answer a call for domestic violences
31:59
Speaker 1: against a child, but you would see, you know, some
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Speaker 1: animals that were just very well, malnourished and just left
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Speaker 1: to their own devices. But the great thing about the
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Speaker 1: state of Ohio back in and unanimous zero passed the
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Speaker 1: Gooders Law, which makes animal cruelty actually a fifth degree felony.
32:21
Speaker 1: So I think these dog owners here in Ohio have
32:25
Speaker 1: more problems than they realized when they did what they did.
32:28
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's very tragic and cruel that this
32:32
Speaker 1: dog was left out in seven degree weather when you
32:36
Speaker 1: know here in Atlanta it's twenty two degrees right now,
32:38
Speaker 1: and I don't want to step outside the comforts of
32:41
Speaker 1: the heat that I'm in right now. You know, there's
32:44
Speaker 1: more than just these two stories, the one I told
32:46
Speaker 1: you about, the one with the German shepherds, that Jane
32:49
Speaker 1: Villas Mitchell told you about. There's one now out of
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Speaker 1: Michigan I've just learned about. On the very first day
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Speaker 1: of the New Year, County Animals in Need of Homes
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Speaker 1: and Rescues posted about a dog found frozen to the
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Speaker 1: ground at Welts Boulevard in Flint. After finding the dog,
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Speaker 1: which the group named Felice, his injuries were addressed, but
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Speaker 1: he was frozen. Discovered frozen to the ground. At first
33:21
Speaker 1: they thought he would lose one of his legs because
33:23
Speaker 1: of this, but he's now having to have surgery, surgery
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Speaker 1: to save the leg. How can you leave a dog
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Speaker 1: frozen to the ground, Ellen, do what do you know
33:36
Speaker 1: about that case? Well, it was on New Year's Day
33:40
Speaker 1: and it was in Genesee County in Michigan. They found
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Speaker 1: this dog. This is an older dog. Uh and I'm
33:49
Speaker 1: looking at the picture. You see the picture of it.
33:51
Speaker 1: It looks like a dog that might be my senior.
33:54
Speaker 1: It's a senior dogs, right, which I can relate to
33:59
Speaker 1: the organ asation said, they originally feared that Folice, which
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Speaker 1: they named him, would lose one of the legs due
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Speaker 1: to that being frozen to the ground. But guess what
34:08
Speaker 1: they've given him surgery and they've saved the leg, and
34:12
Speaker 1: there's more surgery set for this week. Well, it doesn't
34:15
Speaker 1: in there in Franklin County. That's in Columbus. There was
34:19
Speaker 1: a tragic reminder to bring your pets in during this
34:24
Speaker 1: arctic blast. And that's according to the Franklin County Dog Shelter.
34:29
Speaker 1: They have been alerted that three dogs have been found
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Speaker 1: frozen dead. It's simply inhumane. Anybody that's been outside has
34:39
Speaker 1: felt the pain of their fingers freezing, their toes freezing.
34:44
Speaker 1: Dogs can't regulate their body temperature, they don't have on
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Speaker 1: a coat, they can't just rush in from outside, and
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Speaker 1: they die. The Franklin County Dog Shelter alerted the Humane
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Speaker 1: Society about the three deaths and a now pursuing animal
35:01
Speaker 1: cruelty and neglect charges. What about that? To Jane Velez Mitchell,
35:07
Speaker 1: I think the owners should be prosecuted. It shouldn't just
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Speaker 1: be a sad story. This is a crime, Jane, It
35:15
Speaker 1: absolutely is, and they need to be prosecuted. And thank
35:19
Speaker 1: you for covering it. Nancy and I believe it should
35:22
Speaker 1: be illegal to leave your dog chained outside under any circumstances. Nobody,
35:28
Speaker 1: no sentient being wants to be chained outside on on
35:33
Speaker 1: some kind of chain. It's a prescription for disaster and
35:36
Speaker 1: it and do see one arrest so far. A woman
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Speaker 1: charged just charged cruelty after police say her dog froze
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Speaker 1: to death in the bitter Call. Her name Michelle Bennett,
35:51
Speaker 1: age fifty, old enough to know better. Michelle Bennett arrested
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Speaker 1: for one count animal cruelty. Her dog froze to death
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Speaker 1: in a doghouse at her home. Now, according to the
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Speaker 1: police report, uh we also hear from a doctor, Stephanie Henry,
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Speaker 1: a Windsor veterinarian, the dog was brought to her clinic
36:18
Speaker 1: around six thirty pm and it was frozen solid. It
36:24
Speaker 1: was also malnourished. He was underweight and he was frozen solid.
36:33
Speaker 1: Now her bail is only she's going to get out
36:37
Speaker 1: on bail. But I'm taking a look right now at
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Speaker 1: the mug the mug shot of Michelle Bennett Patricia's Honors.
36:44
Speaker 1: She's fifty years old. She should know better. Just because
36:50
Speaker 1: she's fifty doesn't mean that she should know better, Nancy,
36:53
Speaker 1: that she's an adult. People are stuck in prim think
36:57
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know better than to let a dog freeze
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Speaker 1: and starve outside. Who would to be frozen solid like
37:05
Speaker 1: a cube of ice? Patricia, Are you trying to actually
37:08
Speaker 1: defend her by saying she didn't know better? No, I'm
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Speaker 1: saying that cruelty are now. I'm saying that knowledge doesn't
37:21
Speaker 1: mean anything in terms of how old one is. It's
37:25
Speaker 1: a matter of your heart. And this woman has a cold,
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Speaker 1: cold heart, and I think she's guilty of murder. Doesn't
37:33
Speaker 1: mind the animal in Michigan animals found frozen to the ground.
37:42
Speaker 1: Uh now the other dog I told you about having
37:45
Speaker 1: to have surgery a dog frozen to death in an
37:48
Speaker 1: outdoor doghouse in Butler County. I mean it goes on
37:54
Speaker 1: and on and on. How much? How many more times
37:57
Speaker 1: does this have to happen? And can you imagine mug
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Speaker 1: and the pain the animal goes through Vincent Hill, private Investigator.
38:06
Speaker 1: This isn't like picking up a gun and firing it
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Speaker 1: in a fit of anger. It takes time for a
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Speaker 1: dog to free solid like an ice cube. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: a very slow and painful death, Nancy. And keep in mind,
38:21
Speaker 1: while this is going on, the dog still has its needs,
38:25
Speaker 1: like needs to eat, it needs to drink, so not
38:28
Speaker 1: only are you freezing to death, you're essentially starving and
38:32
Speaker 1: being dehydrated to death as well. It's very so alan.
38:35
Speaker 1: How can people report crimes like this or inhumane treatment
38:41
Speaker 1: of animals? Nancy? The Humane Society of the United States
38:46
Speaker 1: says that if you see animal cruelty, you can call
38:50
Speaker 1: your local animal control agency as soon as possible, or
38:54
Speaker 1: just dial nine one one and tell the emergency dispatcher.
38:57
Speaker 1: Because by law, any alleged animal cruelty has to be investigated,
39:02
Speaker 1: so they say also that you should document it. Be
39:07
Speaker 1: sure to document the case with your cell phone video
39:09
Speaker 1: or take pictures, make notes of dates and times, specific
39:13
Speaker 1: details that would help the appropriate agency investigate. If your
39:18
Speaker 1: county doesn't have a proper animal welfare agency or your
39:22
Speaker 1: local police you don't think are really equipped to handle
39:26
Speaker 1: an animal cruelty case, then email the Humane Society at
39:31
Speaker 1: Humane Society dot org. You'll find their address or call them.
39:35
Speaker 1: They have a number that's not twenty four hours, but
39:38
Speaker 1: it's most hours. You can call them at eight six
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Speaker 1: six seven to zero to six seven six eight six
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Speaker 1: six seven to zero to six seven six. I want
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Speaker 1: justice and for people that poo poo. The feelings and
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Speaker 1: the lives of animals. Remember, remember what you do to
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Speaker 1: the least of mine, So have you done to me?
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Speaker 1: That's what I have to say. And I want them
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Speaker 1: all to go to jail and sit there and think
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Speaker 1: about what they've done. And you know what, maybe we
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Speaker 1: can let them go in without a coat. Nancy Grace
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