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IS ANYONE SEARCHING FOR MISSING TALLAHASSEE GIRL,12? Where is Lori? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. How can a twelve year
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Speaker 1: old little girl just disappear and nobody knows anything? Not
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Speaker 1: only that this little girl goes missing June three, Let's
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Speaker 1: see June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January, February,
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Speaker 1: and nothing is being done. Why where is this beautiful
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Speaker 1: twelve year old girl? Laurie Page out of Tallahassee, Florida,
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Speaker 1: got a lot of questions about this investigation, but most
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Speaker 1: important where is she? Is she dead or alive? Who
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Speaker 1: has her? What's been done to her? Has she been
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Speaker 1: sex trafficked? Is she being hidden? Is she even alive?
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Speaker 1: Let me give you a tip line right off the
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Speaker 1: top eight five zero five seven four tips eight five
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Speaker 1: zero five seven four eight four seven seven. We really
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Speaker 1: need your help. I mean to see grace. This is
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories and on series XM one eleven. This is
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Speaker 1: how the whole thing starts. Take a listen to Latina
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Speaker 1: Laura Varbel.
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Speaker 2: She was reported missing to us on June third by
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Speaker 2: her father with very missed information. So dad works overnight.
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Speaker 2: He is a he works in our correctional correctional facilities.
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Speaker 2: So he leaves. He left the night late the night before,
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Speaker 2: returned the next day after his shift, and she was gone.
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Speaker 2: And this was not abnormal, like that was their regular pattern.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let me clarify what Lieutenant Varbel is saying. After
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Speaker 1: I started investigating this case, I learned when she says
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Speaker 1: that's not abnormal, she doesn't mean that the girl is
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Speaker 1: gone is not abnormal. What was not abnormal is the
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Speaker 1: dad works a night shift. Mom's out of the picture.
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Speaker 1: Dad has the twelve year old girl. Everything's going along fine.
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Speaker 1: He works a night shift and then he comes home
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Speaker 1: and she's there. This is a responsible dad who works
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Speaker 1: within the correctional facility, I believe at a prison and
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Speaker 1: holds down a regular job and is taking care of
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Speaker 1: his twelve year old little girl. With me an all
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Speaker 1: star panel. But first I want to go to a
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Speaker 1: special guest who has emerged as unlikely here in this scenario.
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Speaker 1: Margie Summers Peara, professional at Griffin Middle School, very close
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Speaker 1: with the little girl, Laurie Page, who was missing just
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Speaker 1: twelve years old. I'm thinking of my little girl who
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Speaker 1: is now sixteen. You know what she did this morning,
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Speaker 1: which she left to go to school. She left the
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Speaker 1: door wide open. She walked down the door with our
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Speaker 1: hands full and just left. I mean, that's the thinking.
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Speaker 1: They're not thinking right. They're children and this little girl
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Speaker 1: is just twelve years old. Margie Summers knows Laurie very well,
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Speaker 1: and she is the one who actually went out and
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Speaker 1: organized a search for Laurie on Facebook. Margaret Adams Somers,
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Speaker 1: Miss Summers, thank you for being with us. First of all,
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Speaker 1: I want to address the home situation because you know,
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Speaker 1: like we all well know, that when a child goes
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Speaker 1: missing or a child is killed, it's very likely someone
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Speaker 1: in the family. And the first place you look are
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Speaker 1: the male family members. You look at the dad, the stepdad,
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Speaker 1: the boyfriend, the living, the older brother, the ex boyfriend,
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Speaker 1: anyone connected to that family. In this case, we're not
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Speaker 1: seeing that kind of suggestion against Laurie's father. Do you
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Speaker 1: agree or disagree? I agree with that. What can you
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Speaker 1: tell us about their living situation.
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Speaker 3: I know that about a year prior to her disappearance
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Speaker 3: that her mother brought her to the father and basically
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Speaker 3: left her with her father. At that point, her father
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Speaker 3: was somewhat new to parenting, but the two of them
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Speaker 3: were making a go of it.
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Speaker 1: Hey, we're all new at parenting. I'm open to any
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Speaker 1: and all advice, and believe me, I get plenty of
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Speaker 1: advice online. You know the other with me Nicole Parton
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Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, and I want everybody
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Speaker 1: to know one of the reasons we have her on
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Speaker 1: Today's not only is she a phenomenal investigative reporter, but
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Speaker 1: she is the mother of ten one, zero ten. She
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Speaker 1: has taken in children, fostered them and adopted them that
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Speaker 1: had all sorts of learning problems, moms that neglected them
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Speaker 1: and abandoned them. So she is a supermom, all right,
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Speaker 1: So Nicole Parton. For instance, the other day I posted
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Speaker 1: a picture of Lucy and John David. They were being
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Speaker 1: acolytes at church and Lucy had on the qu's little dress. Ever,
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Speaker 1: people actually wrote in that I let her wear a
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Speaker 1: dress that was too short. I'm like, hello, do you
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Speaker 1: notice she's in church on Sunday morning? Anyway, no matter
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Speaker 1: what you do, somebody is going to find fault with it.
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Speaker 1: But from all I can tell, as Margie Summer says,
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Speaker 1: this dad was doing his very best and like my
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Speaker 1: dad my whole life, he worked, as we called it,
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Speaker 1: the night trick, a night job, and there was no
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Speaker 1: way for him to get out of doing it. So,
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Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, there is no suggestion
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Speaker 1: at all this father has had anything to do with
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Speaker 1: his daughter's disappearance. In fact, he is distraught.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's what we're hearing. And another thing to note,
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Speaker 4: it's been mentioned repeatedly. She was a wonderful student. Here's
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Speaker 4: a girl who loved to go to school. She loved education,
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Speaker 4: she loved learning. So that in part has to be
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Speaker 4: a reflection on somewhat of the dynamic at home. This
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Speaker 4: dad was doing his very best. She was in school
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Speaker 4: every day, he was working. As was said, they were
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Speaker 4: making a go of it, and it sounds like he
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Speaker 4: was doing a really good job. Twelve years old, I
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Speaker 4: have an eleven year old daughter. A child. It's a child.
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Speaker 4: She disappeared almost two hundred and fifty days now. She's
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Speaker 4: been missing, a little girl.
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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't even know about the story. Margie Summers,
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Speaker 1: back to you, and I'm going to introduce the rest
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Speaker 1: of our all star panel, who are incredible. You'll recognize
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Speaker 1: a lot of their names. Margie Summers, I was just
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Speaker 1: thinking about what all this child has gone through, but
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Speaker 1: you knew her. It's my understanding that she was doing
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Speaker 1: really well with her father, never missing school upbeat. Is
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Speaker 1: that true?
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Speaker 3: That is very accurate. And when I later learned that
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Speaker 3: there were issues, I was actually surprised she was so
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Speaker 3: put together at school. I just want to guess that
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Speaker 3: she was struggling with is shees at home?
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Speaker 1: Let me go straight out, speaking of irreparable harm caused
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Speaker 1: by moms and dads in your youth, Doctor Bethany Marshall
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Speaker 1: is joining us or now psychoanalyst joining us out of
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Speaker 1: la at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com. Doctor Bethany need some
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Speaker 1: help because see my memories of my mother is that
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Speaker 1: she did and my dad did everything she could to
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Speaker 1: help us. Of course, we grew up on a red
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Speaker 1: dirt road in the middle of rural bib County, but
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Speaker 1: every day we were at school, we never thought of
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Speaker 1: laid out of school. When I woke up at seven
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Speaker 1: am in the morning, my mom has already gone to work,
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Speaker 1: but she had laid out three breakfasts, grits and eggs
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Speaker 1: and things for us to drink. Long everything was done.
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Speaker 1: Our clothes were laid out the night before. We never
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Speaker 1: missed school, we never missed church. In fact, I asked
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Speaker 1: her one time, Mom, what would happen if I told
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Speaker 1: you I didn't want to go to Sunday school this morning?
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Speaker 1: And she didn't miss a beat? Bethany, She said, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: I would just pull you out of a nice school
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Speaker 1: you're in right now and let you go to the
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Speaker 1: Georgia Industrial Home for girls to learn a trade. And
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Speaker 1: she just kept going. I went, I got to go
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Speaker 1: get ready. So that was that. I don't mind that
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Speaker 1: up again. So my point is, say, so, aren't for
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Speaker 1: so many people to identify with a mom that drops
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Speaker 1: you off and leaves.
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Speaker 5: Announcy When the one person who is entrusted with taking
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Speaker 5: care of you, making sure you're safe in this world,
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Speaker 5: making sure your hair is comb there's breakfast on the table.
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Speaker 5: The person who's supposed to have a secure attachment with
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Speaker 5: the father, When that person cannot hold on to their
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Speaker 5: relationship with the child, she's perhaps antagonistic with the father.
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Speaker 5: That really destroys a child's world. And I'm going to
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Speaker 5: tell you something about this little girl. Her primary attachments
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Speaker 5: were with her father and with her schoolmates. I just
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Speaker 5: now the little bit I've heard on this show tells
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Speaker 5: me that this is not a runaway. This is somebody
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Speaker 5: who had attachments in their immediate circle. Runaways are children
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Speaker 5: who have such a huge amount of trouble in their
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Speaker 5: home that their primary her attachments are with strangers. And
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Speaker 5: that's not the case here.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly where I was headed at Doctor Bethany. Once again,
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Speaker 1: you've read my mind. Margie Sommers is with us, who
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Speaker 1: again has turned into a very unlikely hero. She is
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Speaker 1: the one that has organized the search for little Lori page.
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Speaker 1: She is the one being heard on media speaking out
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Speaker 1: about a girl gone, a little girl gone. Now you know, Margie,
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Speaker 1: I called hunting for information about this girl, and no
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Speaker 1: matter how many times I called, it seems as if
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Speaker 1: police didn't want to speak publicly. Isn't that unusual? But
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Speaker 1: I did notice after I started investigating the case myself,
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Speaker 1: suddenly things started changing and moving.
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Speaker 3: What happened, Margie, I think your phone calls may have
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Speaker 3: made a difference, and they may have realized that, hey,
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Speaker 3: this is a big deal. Eight months is too long, yeah,
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Speaker 3: And I think somebody just needed to draw some attention
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Speaker 3: to that, so that the startling fact that she'd been
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Speaker 3: gone eight months would shine through again?
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Speaker 1: Well, what have they done since I started poking around?
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Speaker 3: From what I understand, they've added a whole lot of
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Speaker 3: resources to the case, additional detectives, They're doing a lot
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Speaker 3: more legwork. They're starting over from the beginning, so it's
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Speaker 3: almost like the whole investigation has picked off in high year.
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Speaker 1: Well, I wish this said happened eight months ago. But
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Speaker 1: to the TELEHASSEPD, we would love for you to join
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Speaker 1: us and help us find Lorie Page. The whole reason
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Speaker 1: I was working up to the fact that she had
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Speaker 1: stability with her father is to dispel the idea that
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Speaker 1: she has gone run away and is voluntarily staying away
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Speaker 1: from home in school, isn't it, Sue Margie Sommers that
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Speaker 1: she was doing well at school and seemingly happy with friends.
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Speaker 5: I would say she.
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Speaker 3: Was doing well at school. I never saw her with
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Speaker 3: any particular friends, but she was so driven and so
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Speaker 3: focused on school. It was almost like she didn't see
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Speaker 3: school as a social environment. She sawt as a very
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Speaker 3: serious learning endeavor. She would literally run from one class
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Speaker 3: to the next, even though it was across the hallway,
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Speaker 3: just to make sure she wasn't party so she was
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Speaker 3: friendly with those students and she talked to them, but
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Speaker 3: she was way more serious about school than anything else.
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Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, where is this little girl?
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Speaker 1: What do we know? Listen to Lieutenant Laura Varble.
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Speaker 2: She was home by her. He had He had worked
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Speaker 2: nights since she had come to live with him, and
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Speaker 2: she would always be home while he worked his overnight shift.
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Speaker 2: It was a quadruplex, so it's like a there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of little place and there, I mean, there is
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Speaker 2: a there was a neighbor reference obviously for her, an
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Speaker 2: adult person that if she needed something, she had somebody
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Speaker 2: to reach out to.
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Speaker 1: Okay. To Chris mc donne, joining US director for the
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Speaker 1: Cold Case Foundation, former homicide detective. I found him on
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Speaker 1: his YouTube channel, The Interview Room. Chris McDonald, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for being with us. Does it irritate you
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Speaker 1: as much as it irritates me that this child had
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Speaker 1: been labeled a runaway? You know how many cases I've
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Speaker 1: covered where the child was first designated a runaway and
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Speaker 1: they end up dead?
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Speaker 6: I mean in this situation, obviously, you know twelve year
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Speaker 6: olds that just don't disappear, they can you know some
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Speaker 6: time circumstances, they do run away. However, in this particular case,
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Speaker 6: if we look at it, you know from a thirty
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Speaker 6: thousand foot view, you've got to take into consideration. And
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Speaker 6: we've talked many times on your show about this, the
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Speaker 6: victim risk continuum. And when you look at that, this
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Speaker 6: child falls within a medium risk in relationship to the
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Speaker 6: totality of her life circumstances.
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Speaker 5: With that, I.
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Speaker 1: Don't even know what you're saying. She's a medium risk
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Speaker 1: in totality with her life circumstances. What in the hey
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Speaker 1: are you saying, Katy, you listen, I feel like I'm
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Speaker 1: hearing someone read a police report. Please dummy down for me.
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Speaker 1: What are you saying?
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Speaker 6: So, what you do is you have like an L
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Speaker 6: like an L shape risk continuum and on one side
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Speaker 6: you write environment situation circumstance. On the bottom you put low, medium,
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Speaker 6: and high risk. The lower to the left the child's
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Speaker 6: daily activities to hire. The opportunity is for a suspect
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Speaker 6: and or somebody in her environment.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I do still do you know what he's saying? Okay, again,
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Speaker 1: we don't know what you're saying. Let me try to
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Speaker 1: interpret and regular people talk Okay, Chris McDonough. Are you
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Speaker 1: saying that she was at a low risk for being
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Speaker 1: a runaway?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 1: Okay, See, I did not have any idea what you're
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Speaker 1: saying medium category for what.
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Speaker 6: For potentially somebody luring her out of the home through
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Speaker 6: an internet situation, through anything.
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Speaker 1: So at medium risk for kidnap or luring? Is that
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Speaker 1: what you're saying luring? Okay, medium risk because of what?
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Speaker 1: Because just so you know, we have learned that she
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Speaker 1: did not have a social media profile, she was not
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Speaker 1: on line.
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Speaker 6: Well that's not uncommon for you know, somebody to within
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Speaker 6: the family to say, well, wait a minute. You know,
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Speaker 6: she could have had a phone, she could have had
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Speaker 6: access to her friends. There could have been a variety
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Speaker 6: of circumstances. That's why I'm saying you take a look
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Speaker 6: at her environment, the totality of her environment. Who are
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Speaker 6: our friends, what access points to the internet does her
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Speaker 6: father or friends have? And those are kind of things
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Speaker 6: that kids, you know, you know more than anybody. I mean,
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Speaker 6: I've raised four of them. They sometimes use their friends stuff.
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Speaker 1: Well, the only thing that raises a risk in my
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Speaker 1: mind is the fact that her dad had to work.
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Speaker 1: Were not in moms not in the Patriot. She had
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Speaker 1: recently moved to the area. I guess, Margie Summers, it
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Speaker 1: was over a year ago.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it was approximately a year earlier. I think it
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Speaker 3: may even have been August, so the beginning of sixth grade.
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Speaker 1: Gotcha listen to this, guys.
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Speaker 2: You read recently moved to the area to live with dad.
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Speaker 2: She had been with dad for about a year. She's
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Speaker 2: had a lot of things happen in the course of
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Speaker 2: her life, so there could be several reasons with regards
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Speaker 2: to her background. We just really can't speculate as to
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Speaker 2: which that could be.
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Speaker 1: To doctor Bethany Marshall, I want to follow up on
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Speaker 1: what we're hearing the lieutenants say about having had a
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Speaker 1: tough time of it starting these school is hard enough
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Speaker 1: on its own. Then your dad has gone. You get
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Speaker 1: home in the afternoon, and your dad leaves to go
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Speaker 1: to work, so she's there by herself, probably musing about
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Speaker 1: whatever happened during the day, maybe being homesick.
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Speaker 5: So that's difficult, Nancy, that's profoundly difficult. You know how
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Speaker 5: much time you spend with your kids processing the events
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Speaker 5: of the day, and imagine there's no one there to
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Speaker 5: process the events of the day with her. So if
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Speaker 5: she is falling prey to some other person outside the house,
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Speaker 5: there's no one for her to attach to in the house,
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Speaker 5: to steady to her, to help make sense of her experiences,
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Speaker 5: and the world is down even further. This is a
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Speaker 5: little girl who ran from class to class even if
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Speaker 5: the other class was across the hallway. This tells me
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Speaker 5: she was a good little girl. Good girls are victims, right,
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Speaker 5: little girls who can't say no. So she's going to
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Speaker 5: be hungry for attachments. Anybody who gives her love, anybody
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Speaker 5: who says they can fulfill her needs. Anybody who says
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Speaker 5: I'll keep you safe, I know you, I know you
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Speaker 5: better than your own parents. She's going to gravitate to
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Speaker 5: those people because she is like a thirsty little plant.
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Speaker 5: Every little drop of water is going to make her
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Speaker 5: spring to life, even if it's from a predator.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now is high profile family lawyer joining us
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Speaker 1: out of North Carolina now at Triangledivorcelawyers dot com. Definite Murphy.
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Speaker 1: Before you tell me what you think, I want you
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Speaker 8: When police began looking into the disappearance of twelve year
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Speaker 8: old Lori Page. Detectives started by looking for her digital footprint.
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Speaker 8: But Lori Page has no digital footprint. She's not on
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Speaker 8: social media. Old school methods are being used to find
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Speaker 8: the middle schooler, knocking on doors and talking to neighbors,
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Speaker 8: putting up flyers with her name in personal details, sharing
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Speaker 8: information with neighboring police agencies, and asking the public for help.
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Speaker 1: Knowing that according to police, there was no digital footprint.
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Speaker 1: She's not on a Snapchat, she's not on Insta. They
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Speaker 1: can't find her anywhere. But we do know there was
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Speaker 1: a computer in the home. We know that because cop
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Speaker 1: said that, but yet no digital footprint. What does this
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Speaker 1: mean to you, Kathleen.
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Speaker 9: It means to me that the police have not gotten
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Speaker 9: that computer and looked at it carefully. It also means
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Speaker 9: to me that the police have not fully investigated this case.
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Speaker 9: Twelve year olds are going to find a way to
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Speaker 9: connect with somebody that makes them feel good. They're going
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Speaker 9: to have that reach out. And if she's alone for
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Speaker 9: a significant amount of the evening and nighttime and she
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Speaker 9: has a computer, whi's access to the computer? I wonder
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Speaker 9: if the police have reviewed that computer.
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Speaker 1: Good question, Margie Summers. Would did the school have computers?
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Speaker 1: Could she access a computer at school?
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Speaker 3: Matter of fact, Nan, see, all of the kids at
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Speaker 3: our school are issued computers, and they maintain those computers
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Speaker 3: with them and take them home at night, charge them,
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Speaker 3: and bring them back to school each and every day.
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Speaker 3: Every student at Griffin Middle School has a chromebook.
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Speaker 1: So she did have a computer. Has that computer been found, Largie?
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Speaker 3: I do not know the answer to that.
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't they return it to the school?
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Speaker 3: Yes, she would have checked it in at the end
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Speaker 3: of the year, and I'm quite certain that she did
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Speaker 3: because justice the kind of student she was. I also
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Speaker 3: wanted to mention, based on what your other guest said
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Speaker 3: regarding her self esteem, I know that Laurie received result
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Speaker 3: of a negative test score. She was absolutely distraught and
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Speaker 3: feeling terrible about her test score. She is the only
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Speaker 3: student that I've ever had to say, Laurie, it's not
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Speaker 3: that serious. It just means we're going to have to
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Speaker 3: help you in this one area. Other students, to get
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Speaker 3: them even interested in their test scores is a bit
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Speaker 3: of a chore, But not Laurie. She took that low
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Speaker 3: score very much to heart, and I was actually concerned
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Speaker 3: about how sad she was regarding that test.
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Speaker 1: That just breaks my heart. It breaks my heart with
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Speaker 1: about one thing, helping children. Megan, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. When I think of this little girl twelve,
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Speaker 1: so upset about a bad grade, and now she's missing,
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Speaker 1: and she was immediately described as a runaway. It's been
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Speaker 1: eight months. A child that's that upset about one bad
22:30
Speaker 1: test grade. I just don't see her running away.
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Speaker 10: I don't see it either, Handy, and thank you for
22:36
Speaker 10: having me when I hear we see children like this
22:39
Speaker 10: a lot, and that tells me that she felt said
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Speaker 10: about a grade.
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Speaker 5: It's a perfectionist.
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Speaker 10: It's one way to get her mother's approval, keep peace
22:48
Speaker 10: in the family. That there's been a lot of discord.
22:50
Speaker 10: And like you said, she's a baby, she's twelve. She
22:54
Speaker 10: cannot sustain eight months by herself.
22:56
Speaker 1: I just pray to God that she's still alive. Speaking
23:00
Speaker 1: of speaking of this little girl's nature, I want you
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Speaker 1: to hear what the mom Lori Braws has to say, listen,
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Speaker 1: did she.
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Speaker 11: Leave in the middle of the night to go be
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Speaker 11: outside voluntarily without being manipulated? In no world does that
23:23
Speaker 11: make sense. She might be outside in the dark, she
23:27
Speaker 11: is scared of everything. How are you outside in the
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Speaker 11: dark for this long? And who's feeding you? Who is
23:35
Speaker 11: feeding the shell? Because again, I know my child. Her
23:39
Speaker 11: first word was eat.
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Speaker 1: So doctor Bethony Marshall, when the mom tells us that
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Speaker 1: how scared the child is. She's afraid of the dark,
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Speaker 1: she doesn't like the outside. She loves to eat, she
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Speaker 1: loves the meals. What none of this makes with the
24:01
Speaker 1: phrase this little girl just took off, I'm just not
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Speaker 1: buy it.
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Speaker 5: No, none of it makes that.
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Speaker 1: I remember, doctor Bethany, when she disappeared, it was nighttime.
24:11
Speaker 1: What do you think the old girl is going to
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Speaker 1: go out and take an aber? That did not happen.
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Speaker 5: No, and her mother knows her daughter, right, I mean
24:19
Speaker 5: who guests would know her than her own parents. However,
24:22
Speaker 5: one thing concerns me, and that is that the mother
24:25
Speaker 5: is talking like a police detective, not like somebody who's
24:28
Speaker 5: concerned about her daughter. Now I'm not saying she's not
24:31
Speaker 5: concerned because she might be shocked dissociated, unable to express
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Speaker 5: her love. On the other hand, a mother who's this
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Speaker 5: methodical and detached.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to defend the mother. Really, all I care
24:44
Speaker 1: about is finding the girl. I don't care who did
24:47
Speaker 1: what when I want to find Laurie. In defense of
24:51
Speaker 1: what the mother is saying, she's extremely defensive and angry
24:57
Speaker 1: that the police or any other have just written Laurie
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Speaker 1: off as a runaway. Take a listen to what missus Brosey,
25:06
Speaker 1: the mom, has to say about her daughter being labeled
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Speaker 1: a runaway.
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Speaker 11: The police report said that she ran away and there's
25:14
Speaker 11: no reason why they believe that she was taken. And
25:18
Speaker 11: that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Because you
25:21
Speaker 11: can voluntarily leave under manipulative circumstances. So and then whether
25:29
Speaker 11: she voluntarily left or not, she's a child. What rights
25:34
Speaker 11: do children have to move around if they please? Can
25:38
Speaker 11: she get in the car voluntarily drive down your block?
25:44
Speaker 11: Because just as sure as she gets in a car
25:45
Speaker 11: and starts to drive it, that's going to be a problem.
25:48
Speaker 11: But when she voluntarily leaves and is missing, like this
25:53
Speaker 11: doesn't make sense. Things that don't make me sense make
25:56
Speaker 11: me upset. I get irritated where is LORI page.
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Speaker 1: But I mean, doctor Bethany, she's responding to her daughter
26:04
Speaker 1: being called a runaway, and it doesn't make any.
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Speaker 5: Sense, you know, Nanty, I completely retract my comments from before.
26:10
Speaker 5: She's sounding like a police detective because there are no
26:14
Speaker 5: detectives helping her. She's having to think this entire thing
26:18
Speaker 5: through herself. And she makes the most excellent point. Even
26:22
Speaker 5: if a child walks out of the house to a stranger,
26:26
Speaker 5: that's not voluntary. It's never voluntary when a minor leaves
26:29
Speaker 5: the house and never return. So this poor mother is
26:33
Speaker 5: falling back on her own psychological and mental resources to
26:38
Speaker 5: find her own child. Can you imagine as John David
26:41
Speaker 5: or Lucy went missing and you had to be the detective.
26:44
Speaker 7: You know?
26:44
Speaker 1: Another saying doctor Bethany, I think that she's doing. I'm
26:48
Speaker 1: certainly no shrink. I want everybody else on the panel
26:50
Speaker 1: to jump in on this. She's methodically as best she can,
26:53
Speaker 1: going through Well, she left a twelve year old, Well,
26:58
Speaker 1: who's going to fat her? What is she going to
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Speaker 1: she's afraid of the dark. She wouldn't have done that.
27:02
Speaker 1: What does she get in the car. She's not going
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Speaker 1: to drive? I mean she's going through all these permutations
27:07
Speaker 1: and possibilities and ruling them out. And I have found,
27:10
Speaker 1: doctor Bethany, that when you're faced with this horrible happening,
27:15
Speaker 1: you try to make sense, You try to apply logic
27:18
Speaker 1: to an illogical situation, and it doesn't work, and it
27:22
Speaker 1: gets harder and harder and more difficult. And that's what
27:24
Speaker 1: I hear the mom doing.
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Speaker 5: You know, I agree with you, And you know part
27:28
Speaker 5: of being a mother is something called maternal preoccupation. And
27:32
Speaker 5: what that means is, no matter where your child is,
27:34
Speaker 5: no matter who's taking care of your baby, you're thinking
27:36
Speaker 5: about them all the time. Now imagine your child is missing.
27:40
Speaker 5: That's going to be thinking about your child in a
27:45
Speaker 5: desperate kind of way. I like your use of the
27:48
Speaker 5: word permutations. She's trying to think of every single possibility.
27:52
Speaker 5: But not only that, these are rebuttals.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you're right. What about it? Megan crying? You're hearing
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall. Do you agree or dis well?
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Speaker 10: Yes, she's the mom got a control, She has no control?
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Speaker 6: Right?
28:03
Speaker 10: Can you imagine I have two children not knowing where
28:05
Speaker 10: they are and for eight months, I mean we're coming
28:08
Speaker 10: up on a year.
28:10
Speaker 1: What the mom is saying right now makes a lot
28:12
Speaker 1: of sense to me. Guys. Also the specter of a
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Speaker 1: mother's and father's worst nightmare. Take a listen to what
28:21
Speaker 1: the mom is, Brasie says.
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Speaker 11: Tala has he has some of the worst sex trafficking
28:25
Speaker 11: in the state. And it's twenty minutes of Georgian So yes, yes,
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Speaker 11: I'm concerned, very concerned.
28:36
Speaker 1: Joining me. Nicole Parton, Crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter. Isn't
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Speaker 1: it true that we have learned the night before she
28:44
Speaker 1: goes missing, she and her dad we're at home as normal,
28:48
Speaker 1: watching TV. No problem, correct.
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Speaker 4: That is correct, yes, sair now.
28:53
Speaker 1: He then goes to work, and they're witnesses that saw
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Speaker 1: them there together chilling and watching TV. Everything was fine, yes, no, yes, correct.
29:02
Speaker 1: Then he goes to work as usual at a nearby
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Speaker 1: prison facility and he works at the CI Correctional Institute.
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Speaker 1: He goes to work, everything's fine, locks the door, she's there.
29:15
Speaker 1: He comes home the next morning and she's gone.
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Speaker 7: Yes, no, yeah, time stories with Nancy Grace.
29:37
Speaker 1: Now, Nicole Parton, there was one unusual circumstance that happened
29:42
Speaker 1: the night before, early in the evening. Didn't the mom
29:48
Speaker 1: show up at the house and that upset Laurie.
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Speaker 9: She did.
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Speaker 4: The mom showed up at the home and there was
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Speaker 4: an altercation to the point that her father, being protective,
29:59
Speaker 4: called the police and said, can you please come out
30:02
Speaker 4: and remove the mother from the home. The police were
30:05
Speaker 4: not at their home all of the time. This was
30:07
Speaker 4: a good man things, you know. It's not like the
30:09
Speaker 4: cops were coming out every weekend. This was one incident
30:12
Speaker 4: where the mom showed up, the father did the right thing,
30:15
Speaker 4: called authorities and said, there's an altercation, my daughter is upset,
30:20
Speaker 4: and the police came out and asked the mother to
30:22
Speaker 4: remove herself from the home.
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy joining me, high profile family lawyer. I'm sure
30:27
Speaker 1: this is not the first time you've seen trouble against
30:31
Speaker 1: warring exes and the child is the casualty.
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Speaker 9: And these children at age twelve start to find their voice.
30:40
Speaker 9: They haven't quite found their voice, but they don't like that.
30:44
Speaker 9: They're going to want to be to a judge, be
30:48
Speaker 9: to their teachers, and speak out about what they should
30:52
Speaker 9: not be subjected to. And this little girl probably saw
30:57
Speaker 9: something that traumatized her.
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Speaker 1: G Gie Summer's with us para professional Griffin Middle School
31:03
Speaker 1: who knows Laurie very well. What do you make of it?
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Speaker 3: I believe that it was an upsetting incident because the
31:09
Speaker 3: cops never showed up at their house. For the cops
31:12
Speaker 3: to even have to be called would have been traumatic
31:16
Speaker 3: in and of itself. And I'm sure after that happened,
31:20
Speaker 3: I'm sure her mind was whirling and she was trying
31:24
Speaker 3: to figure out what to do and how to take that.
31:27
Speaker 5: She turned to a stranger. Maybe she turned to a
31:29
Speaker 5: stranger to process the experience, or somebody was already predating
31:33
Speaker 5: on her, and at this point she had nobody to
31:35
Speaker 5: process it with, which made her incredibly vulnerable to anybody
31:39
Speaker 5: who showed love and wanted to talk to her. I
31:41
Speaker 5: feel like Laurie may have been overwhelmed.
31:44
Speaker 4: Even the bad grade.
31:45
Speaker 3: She got on the standardized test overwhelmed her, and the
31:51
Speaker 3: burden of it was far too great for what's normal.
31:56
Speaker 3: And I'm sure the burden of what she just saw
31:59
Speaker 3: and maybe even have felt responsible for would have weighed
32:02
Speaker 3: heavily on her. And I know some kind here that
32:05
Speaker 3: are overwhelmed. They flee that feeling of being overwhelmed.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bessie, What do you make of that?
32:10
Speaker 7: Well?
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Speaker 5: I think what's happening with twelve year olds is that
32:13
Speaker 5: they're slowly reassigning their attachments outside of the home, And
32:17
Speaker 5: is this sorts the biological function of preparing them to
32:20
Speaker 5: leave home when they're seventeen, eighteen or nineteen, So already
32:24
Speaker 5: they're looking outside the house. But this little girl, her
32:27
Speaker 5: primary interest was with her parents. So you can imagine
32:30
Speaker 5: your parents fighting and the idea kids blame themselves whenever
32:36
Speaker 5: the parents fight, whenever a parent's neglectful or abusive. I'm
32:39
Speaker 5: not saying these parents were.
32:41
Speaker 1: I hear you, and I would love the opportunity to
32:43
Speaker 1: psychoanalyze Lori Page, the twelve year old missing girl, but
32:47
Speaker 1: we have to find her first, and right now she's
32:50
Speaker 1: labeled as a runaway. She may have been upset that
32:53
Speaker 1: her mom and dad were having this war, and there
32:56
Speaker 1: was a verbal confrontation. The cops came out, blah blah blah. Okay,
33:01
Speaker 1: but where is she? I mean, is it just me, Jackie?
33:04
Speaker 1: Help me? We have to find the girl. I don't
33:07
Speaker 1: need to figure out what she's thinking right now. I
33:11
Speaker 1: need to find her and get her to safety. If
33:15
Speaker 1: she was upset that night and went out and sat
33:18
Speaker 1: on her front porch, if she went outside in the
33:20
Speaker 1: front yard, where the hey is she now? Now? You
33:26
Speaker 1: heard Margie Summers state that the computer was handed in,
33:32
Speaker 1: so whatever computer she had was not the school computer.
33:36
Speaker 1: But witnesses saw her on a computer watching TV with
33:41
Speaker 1: her dad before she disappeared, before the mom came and
33:44
Speaker 1: raised a ruckus. So where is she now? I think,
33:48
Speaker 1: I hear Chris mcdonnaugh. Can we Psychoanalyzi's child later after
33:53
Speaker 1: she's safe.
33:54
Speaker 6: You're right, Nancy, And this is why, this is why
33:57
Speaker 6: the fourteen detectives right now are realizing, Holy.
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Speaker 1: Yow, one of fourteen detectives would come on and make
34:05
Speaker 1: a plea for her. You're right, critical turnings since his
34:10
Speaker 1: child disappeared.
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Speaker 6: Right the critical turning point.
34:13
Speaker 1: I mean, why did you, Margie Sommers, have to have
34:17
Speaker 1: to form the search the search committee? Why did you
34:21
Speaker 1: have to go out looking for her? Tell me about that?
34:24
Speaker 3: Because other little girls, there's press conferences, there's rallies, there's
34:29
Speaker 3: news cameras, there's all kinds of attention, and my student,
34:33
Speaker 3: someone I cared about, was getting none. That's not fair,
34:38
Speaker 3: not right.
34:38
Speaker 1: A dam and thing, no pressers, no big searches, no
34:46
Speaker 1: guys and women on horseback, no k nines.
34:49
Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing, nothing, And luckily the media in my area
34:56
Speaker 3: did take interest in the story, and shortly after we
35:00
Speaker 3: them to help us, two news channels and the local
35:03
Speaker 3: newspaper all ran stories when fourteen days after she went missing.
35:08
Speaker 1: Okay, that was eight months ago.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it was eight months ago, and nothing's happened since
35:12
Speaker 3: until the last week or so, and it's picked up
35:16
Speaker 3: steam again.
35:17
Speaker 1: Gee, I wonder why Okay, so, were there any sightings
35:22
Speaker 1: of her that night? I do not know where was
35:25
Speaker 1: she last seen?
35:26
Speaker 4: Lasting at her home? And the home, yes, correct.
35:30
Speaker 1: No neighbors saw her come outside.
35:32
Speaker 4: That's correct.
35:32
Speaker 1: This was in June June three, school had just ended.
35:38
Speaker 1: No neighbors saw her outside, right right? Do we have
35:43
Speaker 1: any idea Nicole parton Megan crying, Chris mcdonnad, doctor Bethley,
35:47
Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, Margie Summers. Was a search done of the
35:54
Speaker 1: home to see if any altercation had occurred, where any
35:58
Speaker 1: windows broken? Was the law? Jimmy, do we know anything?
36:02
Speaker 1: Was a home even processed?
36:04
Speaker 4: And my knowledge the home was not processed.
36:07
Speaker 6: But I can tell you what they were thinking, Nanci
36:09
Speaker 6: what okay when they got there? And this is where
36:11
Speaker 6: I was going. The critical turning point here is when
36:13
Speaker 6: they look at the father and they say, tell me
36:15
Speaker 6: about your daughter, and he tells them. The critical turning
36:20
Speaker 6: point here is, Okay, twelve year olds don't vanish at
36:24
Speaker 6: that moment eight months ago. They should have immediately turned
36:28
Speaker 6: on all of the resources because at that point, everybody
36:33
Speaker 6: knows you have a twelve year old who has vanished. Now,
36:37
Speaker 6: they could have been thinking, well, maybe she ran away.
36:40
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter.
36:42
Speaker 1: Why do we keep saying maybe she ran away. I
36:44
Speaker 1: don't give a flying sig how this whole thing started. Okay,
36:50
Speaker 1: go ahead, but it's critical.
36:52
Speaker 6: Now when we look eight months later back and we
36:56
Speaker 6: now see resources that should have been put on within
37:00
Speaker 6: three hours of this child's disappearance. It should have all
37:04
Speaker 6: been in motion back then, and it wasn't. And that's
37:08
Speaker 6: a huge problem. That is a huge problem.
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Speaker 1: Well not only that, think about this, Chris, let me
37:12
Speaker 1: throw this wrench into the works. If she's home alone,
37:17
Speaker 1: no one is there to see what she's doing on
37:20
Speaker 1: the internet. Margie Summers, what do you think about the clients?
37:24
Speaker 1: She had no social media presence, she didn't text, she
37:27
Speaker 1: didn't email. Nothing.
37:30
Speaker 3: I never saw personally involved with social media. But I
37:33
Speaker 3: will say she was smart, and all of the kids
37:36
Speaker 3: at our middle school are tech savvy. There issued the
37:40
Speaker 3: computer for the duration of the year, So to think
37:44
Speaker 3: that she wouldn't know how to use a computer or
37:47
Speaker 3: how to get on the internet would be categorically false.
37:51
Speaker 3: All the children and I use the internet every day.
37:55
Speaker 10: And we are childhood. We're seeing an uptick in human trafficking.
37:58
Speaker 10: It's ramplant and that's where my head went first.
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Speaker 7: As well.
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Speaker 1: Is this Megan crying? Yes, Megan, okay, tell me about that?
38:05
Speaker 1: And why was it stated by the mother that Tallahassee
38:09
Speaker 1: is notorious for sex trafficking. It is close to the
38:15
Speaker 1: Georgia Florida line, very close and close to I seventy five,
38:21
Speaker 1: which takes you all the way from Florida to New
38:23
Speaker 1: York City and beyond.
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Speaker 3: We have we're on itn We are exactly dead center.
38:30
Speaker 3: It runs through the middle of our town. I can
38:32
Speaker 3: runs all the way from Jacksonville to California.
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Speaker 10: And she sounds like Lauria sounds I'm sorry, amphy.
38:38
Speaker 1: No, go ahead, please. What I was going to say
38:40
Speaker 1: is I'm wondering I had a girl disappear from a
38:44
Speaker 1: stadium arena a football game and you know they found her.
38:52
Speaker 1: Her face popped up on an internet I want to
38:57
Speaker 1: say dating website, but it was an escort site. This
39:02
Speaker 1: child had been taken and was being pimped out of
39:05
Speaker 1: a hotel. Yeah, that's so sad.
39:08
Speaker 10: And that's why I think education is so important. And
39:11
Speaker 10: we have the Child Help Speak Up the Faith curriculum
39:15
Speaker 10: which schools Appascination can implement it and it teaches kids
39:18
Speaker 10: that I'm old enough to remember the good touch bad touch,
39:21
Speaker 10: and this is an offshoot of that. And we just
39:25
Speaker 10: implemented a human trafficking prevention curriculum, so kids like Laurie.
39:30
Speaker 4: If this did.
39:31
Speaker 1: Happen based on a mega crying from child Help Dot
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Speaker 1: orgin Chris McDonough, we have no indication the child has
39:39
Speaker 1: did yet. The police still think she didn't have a
39:43
Speaker 1: social media presence. I don't know if she had a
39:46
Speaker 1: phone or not. I don't think she did. So what
39:50
Speaker 1: in the hey do we do now? I mean, if
39:52
Speaker 1: it hadn't been for Marchie Summers, there would not have
39:54
Speaker 1: even been a search. By the way, Margie, where did
39:57
Speaker 1: you search? What did you do during your search?
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Speaker 3: We had some of the other teachers staff members from
40:02
Speaker 3: the school got together and we handed out flyers in
40:05
Speaker 3: the immediate area. And then also on other days, I
40:10
Speaker 3: just went to some of the local convenience stores taped
40:12
Speaker 3: them up there in case she popped in and out
40:14
Speaker 3: for a drink or a snack, somebody would see her.
40:18
Speaker 3: I also have the police.
40:19
Speaker 4: Is there a place that we can look?
40:21
Speaker 3: Is there anywhere that we need to focus to put flyers?
40:26
Speaker 3: And they just had no search parameters at all. So
40:29
Speaker 3: I had a couple apartment complexes, spoke to the managers,
40:32
Speaker 3: gave them flyers in case they saw her in their
40:34
Speaker 3: pool area, on one of the chairs, something like that.
40:38
Speaker 3: But it was really really hard to know where to
40:41
Speaker 3: look because there's just not any clues in any particular direction.
40:48
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, you know about what Margie Summer said,
40:51
Speaker 1: Chris mcdonod, this little girl. The teachers got together and
40:57
Speaker 1: did a search for her. Wasn't the police, as I said,
41:01
Speaker 1: It wasn't ATVs and helicopters and he seeking so gnar.
41:08
Speaker 1: The teachers got together. Why is this happening to this
41:13
Speaker 1: little girl? Why hasn't anybody championed her? Is it because
41:19
Speaker 1: she's black? Is that it that nobody cares. I'mout a
41:24
Speaker 1: twelve year old little girl. I mean, look at her, Chris, Auntie.
41:28
Speaker 6: Nobody ever, ever wants to see a child injured, hurt, harmed, etc.
41:35
Speaker 6: And in this particular case, what you're doing is the
41:38
Speaker 6: tip of the spirit of raising public awareness. Continuing is
41:42
Speaker 6: what is necessary. And you know what the cops need
41:46
Speaker 6: to do, and they're long overdue. It's a shame that
41:51
Speaker 6: we're even having this conversation today.
41:54
Speaker 9: Amen.
41:54
Speaker 1: They long over and I am so distraught. I could
41:59
Speaker 1: not get anybody in that area except for Margie Summers
42:04
Speaker 1: to speak up for this child. Nobody, nobody, guys, please
42:12
Speaker 1: help us find this child. The tip line to help
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Speaker 1: find Lorie is eight five zero five seven four tips
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Speaker 1: eight five zero five seven four t I P S.
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Speaker 1: Please help us. Goodbye, friend,