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Interview: Troye Sivan · The Smallzy Show

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  Speaker 1: Hey, it's Troye Sivan here. I'm hanging out on KISS.
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  Speaker 2: Hey. Hey, Troye Sivan. Wonderful to speak to you.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, nice to talk to you. How's it going? Good.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a while. How's life? Catch me up.
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  Speaker 1: Life is really good, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: My album comes out today, which is exciting.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm in New York at the moment, which
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  Speaker 1: is fun.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. How's your haircut? Because I saw your TikTok. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And your word's not mine, but Diane Warren lesbian haircut
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  Speaker 2: was how you described yourself. Now, have we had a
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  Speaker 2: trim since that TikTok or are we still rocking it?
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  Speaker 3: We've had a trim to take it more lesbian.
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  Speaker 1: I have a rat tail.
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  Speaker 2: That's bold. That's very bold of you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I have a big, long lesbian rat tail at the back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, hey, you know what? It's your album day. You
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  Speaker 2: can do whatever it is that you want.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Ed.
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  Speaker 2: Can I say congrats on the album, man? I got
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  Speaker 2: to have a listen to it early. I just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for people who know, I've known you for so many
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  Speaker 2: years and every time you drop a new record, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like you evolve. There's a new sound. Do you
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  Speaker 2: consciously try to do that every time or do you
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  Speaker 2: just find yourself carving a new path every time you
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  Speaker 2: do an album?
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  Speaker 1: I think I try, push myself every time. I mean, I.
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  Speaker 3: I think the goal is, like, I want to surprise
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  Speaker 3: myself even a little bit. You know, I think I'd
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  Speaker 3: get a bit bored if I felt like I was
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  Speaker 3: doing the same thing over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I try and keep it fresh.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the album is called She's the Best. I always
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  Speaker 2: ask this, not that I want you to choose a favourite,
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  Speaker 2: but for someone who's time poor, because, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: everyone's got something to do. They may not have the
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  Speaker 2: ability just to listen start to finish, but what's one
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  Speaker 2: song you would want people to hear, if they could,
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  Speaker 2: any song from the album?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to cheat.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say two because there's basically like two
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  Speaker 3: sides to the album. Like the album was very much
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  Speaker 3: about like me on the one hand feeling very fun
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  Speaker 3: and free and empowered and like on tour and whatever.
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  Speaker 3: If you want a good time, there's Troy Meets World.
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  Speaker 3: I really like that song. And then the other side
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  Speaker 3: of my life was also then going home to the
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  Speaker 3: hotel room and being like kind of lonely and sad.
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  Speaker 3: And so for that side, I would listen to FF maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now talk to me because I think from on the
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  Speaker 2: outside looking in, being a pop star looks like it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty fun. But are you telling me that sometimes you're lonely?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. You're just like, you know, obviously it's
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  Speaker 3: like it almost makes it more weird because it's like, oh, yeah, amazing.
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  Speaker 3: All of like my dreams are coming true. So why
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  Speaker 3: do I feel kind of sad still sometimes? And I think,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean like. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: it's the schedule or what, but sometimes it's like it
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  Speaker 3: almost makes you go like more inward when things are
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  Speaker 3: going crazy on the work side.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then that's not a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Would it be fair to say that everybody, or
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  Speaker 2: I mean not everybody, but people have an idea of
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  Speaker 2: what being a pop star or being famous is and
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  Speaker 2: then sometimes when you're living it, expectations don't necessarily meet reality.
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  Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, I feel like exactly the same person,
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  Speaker 2: except now just more people know who I am, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm still literally the same person.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely do still feel like the same
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  Speaker 3: person a hundred percent, but I also do have to
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  Speaker 3: say it is pretty glam.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's quite fun.
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  Speaker 3: So I think maybe I'm just like an inherently like
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  Speaker 3: person who's like in my feelings a lot yeah i
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  Speaker 3: think that would.
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  Speaker 2: Be tell me tell me uh what's the most glam
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  Speaker 2: thing that's happened recently uh is it was it the
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  Speaker 2: madonna thing at the mtv awards.
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  Speaker 3: For sure for sure yeah um yeah i got to
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  Speaker 3: meet madonna for the first time and like she when
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  Speaker 3: i was literally four years old the first like song
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  Speaker 3: that i used to sing around the house was like
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  Speaker 3: a prayer and that was like the first song that
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  Speaker 3: my parents were like oh he's got kind of a
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  Speaker 3: nice voice Um, so she's been like a very important
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  Speaker 3: artist in my life. And, um, yeah, I, I literally
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  Speaker 3: had like a comedown on the day after where I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, whoa, I can't believe that that happened.
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  Speaker 2: Now tell me about when you meet her, did she
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  Speaker 2: know who you were? Or cause I can imagine she
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  Speaker 2: would be like the president, right? Where she'd have someone
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  Speaker 2: next to her going down. This is Troye Sivan. You
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  Speaker 2: recently gave him permission to use one of your songs
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  Speaker 2: in his new song. Um, or was she like very
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  Speaker 2: like present and in the moment, you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Cause sometimes you meet super famous people and they're just like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even think they know where they are.
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  Speaker 3: I was very, very prepared for her to be, um,
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  Speaker 3: like not really knowing. And so Charlie XCX and I
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  Speaker 3: had literally just performed at the VMAs like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: 10 minutes prior and.
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  Speaker 1: I was with Charlie.
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  Speaker 3: So I, and then Charlie walked up to her and
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  Speaker 3: they were talking about something and I was sort of
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  Speaker 3: just like sheepishly standing on the side, not expecting her
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  Speaker 3: to know anything.
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  Speaker 1: Or realize anything, you know? And no, she saw me
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  Speaker 1: and definitely registered in her face.
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  Speaker 3: And she was like, oh my God, I love our song.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact that she called it our song was
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  Speaker 3: just like, that was sort of when I went into like,
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  Speaker 3: my body started to like shut down. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then you and then he thought to yourself don't
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  Speaker 2: say too much but saying enough that she knows you're
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  Speaker 2: interested but don't play it too cool because she might
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  Speaker 2: think you're being rude right.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly right and i kept it really chill and then
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  Speaker 3: um i i was honestly surprised she she runs her
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  Speaker 3: own instagram so we we like messaged afterwards and unless it's.
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  Speaker 1: Like a very very good like gay.
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  Speaker 3: Intern who works for her that knows how to speak
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  Speaker 3: exactly like her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I believe I'm talking to Madonna. I could be getting capped.
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  Speaker 2: You believe you're speaking to Madonna, but there is a
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  Speaker 2: chance it could be just a gay intern pretending to
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  Speaker 2: be Madonna. Either way, you know what? Let's leave it
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  Speaker 2: with you talking to Madonna. The lead track from the
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  Speaker 2: album that we've been living with for the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks is Party, which is great. The video clip
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  Speaker 2: is just a work of art. Congratulations on that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I have to ask, it's Party in the Club, Party in... You...
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  Speaker 2: All of the places that you've partied, were there any
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  Speaker 2: other options that you tried to work in lyrically that
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  Speaker 2: didn't work? Like, was there some like draft notes of
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  Speaker 2: places to party that you're like, that doesn't quite work?
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  Speaker 1: There definitely was.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember them off the top of my head,
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  Speaker 3: but now I have this thing where I will be
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  Speaker 3: like walking around.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be like, damn, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 3: I should have said that. Like something as simple as
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  Speaker 3: like party on the beach. Like that's such a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Um, I would like to, uh, make a confession.
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  Speaker 2: I watched your interview, uh, the other day where, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you talked about what was on your YouTube algorithm. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you and I actually could be the same person.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: B1M architecture channel. Like I'll put that, like, I'll just
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  Speaker 2: put that on for fun.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, 100%. That's so fun. I love knowing
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  Speaker 1: this about you.
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  Speaker 3: I remember you made a video about this building that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of near my house in Melbourne and I was
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  Speaker 3: like so starstruck.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: And for people who don't know, it's this guy, this
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  Speaker 2: UK English guy who just makes videos on YouTube about
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  Speaker 2: how they do big architecture infrastructure projects. I watched one
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  Speaker 2: the other day about the Metro train in Sydney. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, this is fantastic. This is great. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: who needs, who needs scripted drama when you've got just
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  Speaker 2: YouTube channels? Yep.
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  Speaker 3: That's like my main form of, um, I guess brain rot,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not brain rot. Cause I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 3: learning something.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I also watching like watch clips of Dyer
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  Speaker 2: of a CEO. So, you know, if we're on this,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, I mean, I'm just sharing this with you.
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  Speaker 2: You can tell me I'm not interested, but that's just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you're in that lane, you pick up
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  Speaker 2: Dyer of a CEO, you can learn some stuff there too.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, cool. I'll give it a go.
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  Speaker 2: Now, how's the fragrance and the luxury lifestyle brand going?
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  Speaker 3: It's going awesome. Yeah, we're having a really good time
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  Speaker 3: with it. We're about to do a pop-up in New
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  Speaker 3: York in a couple of weeks. And my sister's here
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  Speaker 3: because it's going to be based around Sage's Rose, which
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  Speaker 3: is like sort of our main girl at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: She's hard to keep on the shelves, which is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, great. Would you recommend a fragrance? You know me well.
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  Speaker 2: What fragrance from your collection would you recommend for me?
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  Speaker 3: I always recommend for someone first starting out, go smell
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  Speaker 3: Luca and Sage's Rose. Those are our two like biggest,
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  Speaker 3: people really like those ones. So give those a go.
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  Speaker 3: But honestly, I mean, we do this thing called the
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  Speaker 3: collection where you can smell all of them and these
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  Speaker 3: like tiny little bottles. And they're also then really good
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  Speaker 3: for traveling. So yeah, give that a go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, great. I'll take that on note. When are you
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  Speaker 2: coming home, by the way? When are you going to
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  Speaker 2: come back to Australia? When are we going to get,
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  Speaker 2: and when I say home, cause I know you're here
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  Speaker 2: all the time, but like in terms of shows, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that sort of vibe. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm coming home for my own personal life in like
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  Speaker 3: a month to be with my family over summer. And
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  Speaker 3: then shows and stuff. I actually don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 3: have any like touring plans planned yet, which is, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just, I'm, I'm, I have a really hard time
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  Speaker 3: multitasking with touring and album stuff. I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: people do it. Like some people will write their album
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  Speaker 3: while they're on tour. That is like an insane, insane
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  Speaker 3: thing that I can't imagine doing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So we'll just say, we'll put this on the TBA, TBC,
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  Speaker 2: watch this space. Yeah, exactly. Hey, congrats on the album.
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  Speaker 2: Wonderful to speak to you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thanks. Nice to talk to you
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  Speaker 1: as always. I'll see you soon. Smallsy, now on KISS.
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