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Murder In Moscow: The Somber Tone Hanging Over The Campus In Moscow As School Resumed · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. As
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  Speaker 1: students begin to return to the University of Idaho in
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  Speaker 1: the wake of the murder of four of their classmates,
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  Speaker 1: police are being absolutely inundated with calls to 911. Now
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  Speaker 1: that all comes from and stems from a community that
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  Speaker 1: is certainly on edge. I won't say that they're panicked
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  Speaker 1: because i'm not there and i can't really you know
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  Speaker 1: get a pulse of what's going on as far as
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  Speaker 1: the community as a whole but what i will say
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  Speaker 1: is from the emails i've received from people who live
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  Speaker 1: there and from what we have been reading they are
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  Speaker 1: certainly on edge and there's a lot of people who
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  Speaker 1: are scared for the welfare of their children and in
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  Speaker 1: a situation like this i don't know how you cannot
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  Speaker 1: be scared for your children If it was me, like
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  Speaker 1: I said in the previous article, there's no way that
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  Speaker 1: I would let my kids go back to school here
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  Speaker 1: while this was up in the air. Because there's too
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  Speaker 1: many unknowns. There's too much we have no idea about.
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  Speaker 1: And when there are so many unknowns permeating a case
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  Speaker 1: like this, It's very hard for a parent to discern
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  Speaker 1: if it's a good idea to send their child to
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  Speaker 1: school or not. So in an abundance of caution, my
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  Speaker 1: guess is a lot of parents have said, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think you're going to stay home and you're going to
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  Speaker 1: do a little bit of remote learning. Now, remember, we're
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  Speaker 1: also dealing with adults. These college aid students, mainly 18
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  Speaker 1: and above. So I'm sure some of them are going
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  Speaker 1: to go back to school and not be too stressed
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  Speaker 1: about this. But there are a Good number of people
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  Speaker 1: who are certainly on edge over all of this mayhem
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that they're none the wiser two weeks
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  Speaker 1: in than they were when all of this first started.
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  Speaker 1: So people have questions and people most certainly have concerns
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  Speaker 1: about sending their kids back to school. Today we have
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  Speaker 1: an article from the New York Post and the headline
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  Speaker 1: 9-1-1 call surge as University of Idaho murders leave a
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  Speaker 1: community on edge. This article was authored by Sneyana Fabarov.
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  Speaker 1: Police in the college town, home to the University of Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: have been inundated with calls from a community still gripped
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  Speaker 1: by fear over a grisly quadruple homicide that has not
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  Speaker 1: been solved, as weary students are returning to campus from
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  Speaker 1: their Thanksgiving break. And when we first started talking about this,
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking in the back of my mind that
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  Speaker 1: they definitely have somebody of note, in their custody by
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  Speaker 1: the end of the Thanksgiving break because I figured it
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  Speaker 1: was going to be something close to the girls or
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  Speaker 1: somebody that they had a problem with that was documented.
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  Speaker 1: But when you start hearing about all of the other
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  Speaker 1: things that cracked off and how none of that seems
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  Speaker 1: to line up, it leaves me befuddled, honestly. But I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking that by the time the Thanksgiving break was
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  Speaker 1: over that there would have been some serious movement here
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  Speaker 1: and there hasn't been, at least not publicly. Now, we
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  Speaker 1: have to remember that these sorts of investigations take a
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  Speaker 1: long time. And with all of the DNA and all
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  Speaker 1: of the different evidence that they've compiled, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: take them some time to process all of that. So
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  Speaker 1: we have to have some patience. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: if you're living in this community or your kids going
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  Speaker 1: to this school, you have to be just at your
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  Speaker 1: wits end here. The Moscow Police Department has received 78
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  Speaker 1: calls for unusual circumstances and 36 welfare check requests since
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  Speaker 1: November 13th. Now remember, this is a town of 25,000 people.
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  Speaker 1: So we're not talking about a huge city here. So
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  Speaker 1: this is a lot of people calling in. The day
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  Speaker 1: after students Madison Mogan, Zanna Kernodle, Ethan Chapin, and Kaylee
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  Speaker 1: Gonsalves were stabbed to death in their sleep. In an
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  Speaker 1: off-campus home, the agency said Sunday. For comparison, the police
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  Speaker 1: department had received 70 unusual circumstance calls and just 18
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  Speaker 1: welfare check requests for the entire month of October. So
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  Speaker 1: that gives you a little bit of context of how
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  Speaker 1: many more are coming in right now. And again, you
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  Speaker 1: have people who are scared, You have people who have
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  Speaker 1: no answers about what went down. And while we're reading
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  Speaker 1: about it and talking about it from thousands of miles away,
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  Speaker 1: these people are living it. And then you add to
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  Speaker 1: it all the other noise surrounding what happened, all of
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  Speaker 1: the crazy conspiracy theories, all of the people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: mobbing town as far as reporters and journalists. It's a
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  Speaker 1: very stressful situation, especially for a small place like this.
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  Speaker 1: We understand that there is a sense of fear within
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  Speaker 1: our community, cops acknowledged. Well, yeah, there's no doubt there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a sense of fear until somebody is
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  Speaker 1: arrested here. Once somebody is arrested and, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: people get a little bit more information, that'll start to
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  Speaker 1: calm down, obviously. But without there being an arrest, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think people are going to stop being on edge.
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  Speaker 1: You have no idea who did this, remember? And this
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  Speaker 1: person could still be in the community like we saw
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  Speaker 1: with Richard Allen in the Delphi murders. I'm thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 1: anybody who committed a crime like that would want to
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  Speaker 1: put a lot of distance between themselves and those murders, right?
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  Speaker 1: You would think, logically speaking. But I guess that's not
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  Speaker 1: the case. And when you look at something like this,
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  Speaker 1: you have to, at the very least, entertain the thought
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  Speaker 1: that this person is still in the community hiding amongst
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  Speaker 1: the people. Local, state, and federal investigators working the case
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  Speaker 1: are in the process of reviewing 488 digital submissions, including
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  Speaker 1: photo and video tips, and have been delivered to an
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  Speaker 1: FBI link by members of the public. Students are scheduled
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  Speaker 1: to return to the UI campus on Monday, but it
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  Speaker 1: remains unclear how many of them would resume in-person learning.
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  Speaker 1: For the last two weeks of classes before winter break,
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  Speaker 1: reported CNN, And there's a lot of people who are
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  Speaker 1: very hesitant to send their kids back. I've seen in
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  Speaker 1: different outlets on other forums where people are just not
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  Speaker 1: into it. And I really can't blame them. Fearing a
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  Speaker 1: killer is on the loose, many students left campus early
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  Speaker 1: in the wake of the murders. And University of Idaho
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  Speaker 1: President Scott said last week that some students did not
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  Speaker 1: plan to return to campus until police made an arrest.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a prudent choice by the parents. Even
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  Speaker 1: if your kid is not in, you know, serious danger
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  Speaker 1: of running into this killer or being attacked by the killer,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's prudent and sometimes cautions the best approach.
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  Speaker 1: As such, faculty have been asked to prepare in-person teaching
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  Speaker 1: and remote learning options so that each student can choose
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  Speaker 1: their method of engagement for the final two weeks of
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  Speaker 1: the semester, he wrote in a statement. The University of
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  Speaker 1: Idaho will be hosting a candlelight vigil Wednesday to honor
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  Speaker 1: the murder victims. And I know it's morbid to say,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of times these killers, if we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a real psychopath, they'll go to these vigils.
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  Speaker 1: They'll try and be part of the investigation. They'll try
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  Speaker 1: and insert themselves in some way. And that has to
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  Speaker 1: do with their whole entire psyche. When you try and
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  Speaker 1: break down the way these killers act or conduct themselves,
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  Speaker 1: you'll run yourself in circles. because none of it makes
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  Speaker 1: sense to a normal person. Police previously said they believe
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  Speaker 1: the killings of the four students were targeted and isolated,
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  Speaker 1: and they have not ruled out the possibility that there
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  Speaker 1: were multiple attackers. And I think this is something that's
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  Speaker 1: been lost in the sauce lately, the fact that there
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  Speaker 1: might be multiple attackers. I mean, that would clear up
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot for me, because I'm still having a
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  Speaker 1: hard time wrapping my mind around That one person can
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  Speaker 1: do this with a knife and kill four people without
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  Speaker 1: anyone waking up and sounding an alarm. Now, I know
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  Speaker 1: it's not impossible, but my brain doesn't want to comprehend that.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas two people that were engaging in this sort of crime,
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  Speaker 1: this sort of murder, makes it a lot more easy
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  Speaker 1: to comprehend. One person goes to one room, one person
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  Speaker 1: goes to the other room, and you're doing it in
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  Speaker 1: a simultaneous fashion. But having one person do this, this
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  Speaker 1: is straight up bananas. Now, I know it's possible. We've
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  Speaker 1: seen Ted Bundy kill people like this. We've seen Rawling
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  Speaker 1: do it. So it's not like it's an impossible feat.
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  Speaker 1: But it's hard for me to comprehend and wrap my
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  Speaker 1: mind around how evil you would have to be to
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  Speaker 1: commit this crime. So far, no suspects have been named
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  Speaker 1: and the murder weapon, believed to be a fixed bladed knife,
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  Speaker 1: has not been recovered. Steve Gonsalves, the father of Kaylee Gonsalves,
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  Speaker 1: told Fox News Saturday he has not received any updates
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  Speaker 1: on the investigation from law enforcement since before Thanksgiving Day.
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  Speaker 1: They're kind of just telling me that they can't tell
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  Speaker 1: me much, which is frustrating to me because I've been
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  Speaker 1: very trustworthy, he said. And I understand that the family
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  Speaker 1: wants information. But besides, you know, basic details and a
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  Speaker 1: basic update, the investigators can't really reveal too much. because
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  Speaker 1: they're saying that it would affect the integrity of their investigation.
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  Speaker 1: So that's all we have to go on, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: working on the premise that they're telling the truth. Idaho
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  Speaker 1: State Police Communications Director Aaron Snell explained that investigators have
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  Speaker 1: been tight-lipped to avoid spreading more fear and suspicion in
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  Speaker 1: the community, which is already on edge, and swarming with rumors. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the flip side of that, playing devil's advocate... is when
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  Speaker 1: you don't give information and you don't let people know
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, it has the same effect, a very
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  Speaker 1: chilling effect of fear and sowing doubt and mistrust in
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  Speaker 1: the investigation. But you have to find the fine line,
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  Speaker 1: the fine line to walk of what you can release
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  Speaker 1: and what you can't release. And so far, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's been the biggest issue here, them trying to find
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  Speaker 1: that fine line. Meanwhile, University of Idaho alum Carrie Uhlhorn
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  Speaker 1: has raised more than $ 19, 000 to buy and distribute birdie
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  Speaker 1: personal alarms to students to make them feel safer on campus. Hey, look,
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  Speaker 1: anything helps, right? Now, I don't think that whoever did
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be walking around campus looking to
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  Speaker 1: kill somebody on campus, but who the hell knows at
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  Speaker 1: this point? It's so scary and I'm not even up there,
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  Speaker 1: she told KTVB7. I can't imagine what it's like for
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  Speaker 1: the people that are living there. Senior Megan Lawley told
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  Speaker 1: the station she is looking forward to getting her alarm
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  Speaker 1: so that she could protect herself. It feels dangerous to
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  Speaker 1: be up there right now, she said. I felt scared
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  Speaker 1: for the last week. So we have to take into
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  Speaker 1: account how these people are feeling. And for us, it's
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  Speaker 1: one thing to say, oh, well, why would you be
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  Speaker 1: scared or whatever? But we're not the ones living it.
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  Speaker 1: These people are actually living through this nightmare. Where they
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  Speaker 1: lost friends, they lost family members, they lost community members.
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  Speaker 1: And it's going to be a long road to try
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  Speaker 1: and come to grips with all of this. And when
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  Speaker 1: you have the killer still on the loose, you can
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  Speaker 1: guarantee that people are going to be scared and people
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  Speaker 1: are going to have questions. So as the students return
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  Speaker 1: back to the university and classes begin to resume, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see how the authorities handle
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  Speaker 1: all of this. So, We'll keep our eye on it,
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  Speaker 1: but that's where we're at as far as the students
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  Speaker 1: coming back to school and how some of them are feeling.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
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