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Speaker 1: He's the report.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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Speaker 2: James Macpherson filling in for Andrew. Coming up tonight, the
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Speaker 2: Coalition has unveiled its eight hundred million dollar plan to
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Speaker 2: secure fuel reserves and produce an additional one billion liters
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Speaker 2: of storage. Nationals leader Mat Canavan will join me to
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Speaker 2: discuss that. We cross to the US and speak with
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Speaker 2: John Heinderaker as the fallout continues from the third assassination
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Speaker 2: attempt on President Donald Trump's life. Plus, Meaghan Quinn is
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Speaker 2: named the Secretary of the Department of Defense.
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Speaker 3: But was you the right pick?
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Speaker 2: My panel will unpack that and plenty more in just
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Speaker 2: a moment. But first, it's our ABC right. The Australian
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Speaker 2: Broadcasting Corporation is supposed to represent Australia and our national interest.
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Speaker 3: That's what it's meant to do.
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Speaker 2: But last night our ABC was busy doing what's so
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Speaker 2: often does best, hosting an earnest sermon about how Australian
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Speaker 2: taxpayers need to compensate Pacific island nations not just for
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Speaker 2: climate change, but for colonization. Last night seven thirty hosts
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Speaker 2: Sarah Ferguson asked former UN Climate negotiator Christiana Forgaires a
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Speaker 2: question about apparently, or a question rather that apparently keeps
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Speaker 2: consciences at the ABC very awake at night.
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Speaker 3: In relation to sea level rises?
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Speaker 4: What does Australia owe in your view, to the countries
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Speaker 4: of the Pacific.
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Speaker 2: And boy, oh boy, was the former climate diplomat excited
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Speaker 2: to get that question.
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Speaker 5: What an important question.
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Speaker 3: That's a pretty important question. I would have thought.
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Speaker 2: Australian taxpayers are already giving more than two billion dollars
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Speaker 2: in aid to Pacific nations, that's this financial year.
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Speaker 3: But that's not enough to atone for our sins, not
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Speaker 3: even close.
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Speaker 2: What followed was a moral opera where Australia is always
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Speaker 2: cast as the villain and island nations as the chorus
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Speaker 2: demanding restitution.
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Speaker 3: Let me be very clear.
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Speaker 5: The fact that we are today gratefully historically beyond the
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Speaker 5: colonization period of Australia means that Australia cannot turn its
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Speaker 5: back on its Pacific neighbors. You cannot expect them to
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Speaker 5: bear the burden of colonization, and on top of that,
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Speaker 5: to bear the burden of climate change that they have
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Speaker 5: not produced whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: WHOA, There is a lot to unpack there not least
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Speaker 2: the assumption that history is a sort of perpetual invoice
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Speaker 2: addressed specifically to Canberra. First, Which Pacific Island Nations has
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Speaker 2: Australia colonized. Tavalu was colonized by the Brits, so is Fiji,
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Speaker 2: and so were the Solomon Islands.
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Speaker 3: So is Australia.
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Speaker 2: To come to think of it, Vanuatu was colonized by
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Speaker 2: the Brits and the French, Spain, Germany, the Netherlands. They
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Speaker 2: all colonized islands in the Pacific. But there's never been
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Speaker 2: an island in the Pacific or elsewhere for that matter,
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Speaker 2: that Australia has colonized, unless you count Tasmania Black.
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Speaker 3: That's just a bit of friendly teasing. It's true.
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Speaker 2: We administered Papua New Guinea for a period, but we.
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Speaker 3: Didn't colonize it.
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Speaker 2: So why is this costa Rican professional diplomat on the
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Speaker 2: ABC insisting we need to pay up for the burdens
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Speaker 2: of colonization. We didn't colonize anyone, though we do give
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Speaker 2: New Zealand the side eye from time to time. As
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Speaker 2: for the burdens of colonization, I mean, what does that
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Speaker 2: mean is you're referring to a legal system that guarantees
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Speaker 2: a quality before the law, plumbing and indoor toilets, air
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Speaker 2: travel to go with canoes? Are they the kind of
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Speaker 2: burdens she expects us to compensate other nations for? Of course,
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Speaker 2: none of those questions are asked as for addressing climate change,
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Speaker 2: which we're reminded Pacific island nations.
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Speaker 3: Have not produced whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: Are we to believe our use of fossil fuels affects
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Speaker 2: the climate, but their use of fossil fuels certainly does not.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Fijians have been driving motor vehicles since
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Speaker 2: the early nineteen hundreds, aircraft have been coming and going
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Speaker 2: from Vanuatu since the nineteen thirties, but their use of
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Speaker 2: internal combustion engines and avgas has had no effect on
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Speaker 2: climate whatsoever. Meanwhile, Australia, contributing roughly what is it, one
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Speaker 2: percent of global emissions, is presented as a kind of
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Speaker 2: planetary arctist in chief morally responsible for weather patterns across
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Speaker 2: half the globe.
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Speaker 5: Australia really needs to step up into its moral responsibility
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Speaker 5: here and be in full solidarity with those countries on
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Speaker 5: two levels. Number one, role modeling what this transition should
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Speaker 5: look like. And number two, through its in town national role.
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Speaker 2: If Christiana foragairis reckons Australia has a moral duty to
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Speaker 2: make Chris Bowen a role model for the Pacific. I
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Speaker 2: think she misunderstands morality and Chris Bowen. But I digress.
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Speaker 2: You'd think the ABC would push back.
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Speaker 3: On all of this, or at least some of it,
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Speaker 3: any of it. And here is the.
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Speaker 4: Pushback, Christiana Figuerre, thank you very much indeed for joining us.
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much indeed.
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Speaker 2: And thus ends another episode in which our ABC performs
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Speaker 2: its familiar role, not as a neutral observer of national debate,
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Speaker 2: but as a polite facilitator of preapproved moral conclusions discussed
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Speaker 2: over a warm cup of agreement. Well, our government's obsession
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Speaker 2: with gender politics shows no sign of slowing down. Anthony
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Speaker 2: Albinezy today announced that senior Public servant Meghan Quinn will
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Speaker 2: become Secretary of Defense.
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Speaker 6: As Quinn will be the first woman to be the
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Speaker 6: permanent Secretary of the Department of Defense.
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Speaker 2: Now, of course, this follows the announcement just two weeks
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Speaker 2: ago that and Coil would lead the Army.
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Speaker 6: Lieutenant General Coyle will be the first woman in our
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Speaker 6: nation's history to command the Australian Army climate.
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Speaker 3: You've always got to be painfully clear.
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Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting either of these appointments is misguided. Quinn
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Speaker 2: and Coil may well prove exceptional. One hopes they are
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Speaker 2: given the stakes a somewhat higher than a diversity report.
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Speaker 2: But does every announcement have to come wrapped in the
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Speaker 2: language of breakthrough and barrier smashing? Does competence always have
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Speaker 2: to arrive with a subtitle? If the media want to
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Speaker 2: swoon over first send by all means, it fills their time,
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Speaker 2: it flatters sensibilities. But the government, you'd think, might aspire
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Speaker 2: to something a touch more restrained, appoint.
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Speaker 3: The best person. Say they're the best person.
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Speaker 2: And spare us the obligatory history lesson, because if every
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Speaker 2: appointment is a milestone, eventually the milestone start to look
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Speaker 2: less like progress and more like branding. There was a
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Speaker 2: remarkable admission made on the weekend by US political commentator
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Speaker 2: Scott Jennings. He was talking on CNN prior to The
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Speaker 2: Washington Correspondent's Dinner about how Donald Trump is the most
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Speaker 2: accessible president in American history. Have a listen and see
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Speaker 2: if you hear the same thing that I heard.
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Speaker 7: Journalism has never had more access to the leader of
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Speaker 7: the free world than they have right now. Everybody in
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Speaker 7: that room, as was noted by the press Secretary, has
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Speaker 7: his cell phone number, and lo and behold, he answers
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Speaker 7: their calls. He answers their questions in the Oval office
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Speaker 7: on a daily routine basis. I mean, he answers questions
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Speaker 7: on the tarmac, he answers questions on the South lawn.
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Speaker 7: You couldn't pry access like this out of Joe Biden,
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Speaker 7: Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush or any other president.
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Speaker 2: Did you hear Scott Jennings say that all the Washington
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Speaker 2: correspondents have Donald Trump's mobile phone number.
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Speaker 3: That's incredible.
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Speaker 2: And not only do all those people have Presidents Trump's number,
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Speaker 2: President Trump answers their calls day and night.
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Speaker 1: Hmm.
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Speaker 2: So newspaper hacks in Washington have had Donald Trump's number,
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Speaker 2: and he was our prime minister just last year.
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Speaker 6: I don't have Donald Trump's number. I didn't have Joe
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Speaker 6: Biden's number. It's not the way it works between the
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Speaker 6: Australian Prime minister and the US president. There are formal.
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Speaker 3: Processes take place I've had two.
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Speaker 6: Very warm conversations with President Trump.
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Speaker 3: Like I said, that was last year.
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Speaker 2: So I can only presume one of those journos at
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Speaker 2: the Washington Corresponds dinner saw to it to pass on
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Speaker 2: Trump's number to our PM because Anthony Albaneze, he said
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Speaker 2: yesterday he had texted Donald Trump in the wake of
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Speaker 2: the assassination attempt Elbaneze he didn't say whether Trump had
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Speaker 2: replied life For one hope Albanze doesn't wait until there's
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Speaker 2: another attempt on Trump's life before using Trump's number. If
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Speaker 2: he now has the President's mobile phone number. I wish
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Speaker 2: you'd call and sought out the confusion over what Australia
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Speaker 2: is supposed to have done to help Trump in the
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Speaker 2: Middle East. I mean, every time the PM is asked
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Speaker 2: about Trump's criticism of Australia, he claims to be clueless.
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Speaker 2: We'll use the phone you've got one now. Trump apparently
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Speaker 2: doesn't hesitate to take calls from every journalist in Washington.
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Speaker 2: Surely he'd take Albanese's call, right. It's astonishing to me
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Speaker 2: that Australia's relationship with the US has been allowed to
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Speaker 2: drift over the past couple of years. The way it has,
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Speaker 2: but at least now the US has announced an ambassador
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Speaker 2: to Australia. Earlier today, the Trump administration announced its intent
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Speaker 2: to send former Congressman Dave Bratt to Canberra. Bratt is
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Speaker 2: an economics professor who's currently vice president of business relations
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Speaker 2: at Liberty. That's a private evangelical Christian university. So Anthony
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Speaker 2: Albaneze he gave Donald Trump this, tell her.
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Speaker 8: Bloody interpreter, Bah, this language is just complicates it so much.
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Speaker 3: You know, come to cancel this meeting at six o'clock.
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Speaker 3: I've added compatience.
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Speaker 1: To do it.
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Speaker 2: And in return, Donald Trump has given Anthony Albanezi this.
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Speaker 9: These are already you know, college grads, legal scholars. They
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Speaker 9: know the Constitution here at Liberty, and they're on fire.
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Speaker 3: For the faith.
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Speaker 9: You've got to ground it in the word, right, the
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Speaker 9: Word of God, that's the Bible.
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Speaker 2: This is going to be fascinating to watch. The Coalition
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Speaker 2: has challenged the Albanzi government to prove that it's learned
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Speaker 2: from our dangerous dependence on overseas oil imports and adopt
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Speaker 2: the opposition's fuel security plan in the upcoming budget. The
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Speaker 2: eight hundred million dollar plan unveiled today by Angus Taylor
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Speaker 2: would fund a billion dollars in additional fuel storage capacity,
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Speaker 2: increasing the minimum stockholding obligation from thirty days to sixty days,
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Speaker 2: still short of the ninety days recommended, but an improvement
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Speaker 2: none the les.
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Speaker 3: Yes, he was the opposition leader.
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Speaker 10: The government can do this tomorrow, it can commit to
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Speaker 10: this tomorrow. We're asking them to work with us to
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Speaker 10: get the MSO doubled, the stockholding obligation doubled, and get
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Speaker 10: to that ambition of ninety days of IEA stocks.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is the leader of the Nationals, Matt Canavan.
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Speaker 3: Matt good evening to you.
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Speaker 2: Will labor rise to the challenge with some long term
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Speaker 2: measures like that which the Coalition has put forward.
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Speaker 1: Look, I hope so, I very much hope so.
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Speaker 11: As Angus just said, we're happy to work constructively with
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Speaker 11: the government here. It was the coalition government that put
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Speaker 11: in place the minimum stockholding obligation five years ago. That's
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Speaker 11: all for the first time industry to have to store
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Speaker 11: thirty days. And I know people are looking for that
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Speaker 11: goal stand of ninety days. But when we introduced the
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Speaker 11: thirty days, there was a lot of opposition from industry,
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Speaker 11: a lot of concern this would cost too much, it
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Speaker 11: would imperil the viability of existing fuel distribution and refining businesses,
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Speaker 11: and so we set a sensible target of thirty days.
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Speaker 11: We've met that, or the industry has met that without
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Speaker 11: really too much of a hiccup, and therefore, given the
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Speaker 11: higher risks we can see now through the Middle East conflict,
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Speaker 11: it makes sense to build on the success of the
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Speaker 11: thirty day obligation to take it to sixty days.
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Speaker 1: It's because of the work Angustida's Energy minister.
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Speaker 11: Five years ago that we've had these stocks and had
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Speaker 11: a little bit of a buffer the government is using
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Speaker 11: to sprook its own response here to the fuel crisis,
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Speaker 11: and so this is a logical next step. It's an
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Speaker 11: affordable step. It will come at a cost. We're being
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Speaker 11: upfront about that. Obviously these things come at costs. We
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Speaker 11: estimate this will cost about one cent alter for consumers,
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Speaker 11: but it's a cost that's worth it for the insurance
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Speaker 11: premium we'd get from that by having a larger amount
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Speaker 11: of breathing space if another conflict another disruption is to
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Speaker 11: occur in the future.
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Speaker 3: Well as expected.
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Speaker 2: The plan has attracted criticism, including from the ABC, which
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Speaker 2: led with the warning that the Coalision's plan would come
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Speaker 2: quote at a cost to drivers, even though as you said,
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Speaker 2: it's only a cost of an extra one cent per
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Speaker 2: liter at the bowser. Surely that extra cent per liter
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Speaker 2: is a worthy trade off if it means we're insulated
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Speaker 2: from future global oil shocks.
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Speaker 1: Well, we believe so.
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Speaker 11: We very much think that calculation is worth it to
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Speaker 11: Previous estimates have put to the cost of even just
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Speaker 11: a day of interruption at a few hundred million dollars
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Speaker 11: to the Australian economy. So it's obviously something we have
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Speaker 11: to prepare for. As I say, the government's been happy
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Speaker 11: to spirit the fact that it's got roughly thirty days
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Speaker 11: there thanks to the work that Angus and the Coalitions
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Speaker 11: did a few years ago. Clearly we're better for sixty days.
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Speaker 11: We are quite low on the table of countries that
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Speaker 11: do have stocks available. Keep in mind there is an
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Speaker 11: important distinction here, gets very technical, but this minimum stockholding
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Speaker 11: obligation is a set of reserves, set a few reserves.
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Speaker 11: It's available for the Australian people, held by industry, held
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Speaker 11: in trust by industry for our use. The IA ninety
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Speaker 11: days is a little bit different. They get confided a
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Speaker 11: bit understandably, but the IA obligation is something that the
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Speaker 11: world holds for everybody to keep international trade flows moving
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Speaker 11: in the case of a crisis. It's also ninety days
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Speaker 11: of net imports, not of daily use, and one way
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Speaker 11: to get up to that ninety day figure would be
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Speaker 11: the whole more storage, but it would increasingly become costly.
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Speaker 11: Another better way would be to produce more oil here,
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Speaker 11: because if we produce more oil here, that net import
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Speaker 11: obligation comes down. And so that's another part of our
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Speaker 11: plan is to drill again, get cracking using our resources again,
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Speaker 11: because if we can deliver more oil security, well that'll
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Speaker 11: be the best form of insurance, much better than storing water.
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Speaker 11: It's much better to have a tap being able to
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Speaker 11: run than just put water in the bathtub forever.
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Speaker 2: Cyclone hits absolutely good analogy. Well, the Albanezi government is
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Speaker 2: doing fuel storage a little differently. They've resorted to sending
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Speaker 2: Petty Wong to China for part two of Labour's fuel
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Speaker 2: begging tour.
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Speaker 3: Matt.
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Speaker 2: We know Donald Trump has been pretty unhappy with Australia
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Speaker 2: in recent times. Will groveling to China at the same
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Speaker 2: time as our relationship with the US deteriorates make a
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Speaker 2: bad situation worse, do you think.
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Speaker 11: Look, I want to see Australia work with all countries
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Speaker 11: in our region.
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Speaker 1: We're a friendly nation.
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Speaker 11: We obviously have a very significant trading relationship with China.
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Speaker 1: We provide them with a lot.
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Speaker 11: Of gas and coal, in particular iron ore of course
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Speaker 11: for a steel industry, so I'd like to see that
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Speaker 11: reciprocated from them too. China's not, though, a large nets
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Speaker 11: oil exporter, so they're not going to be helpful in
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Speaker 11: that situation. I think Penny's probably going there more for fertilizer.
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Speaker 11: They do produce a lot of fertilizer. There's also been
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Speaker 11: reports they're limiting some exports of products related to fertilizer
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Speaker 11: and exposers production, so that's going to be pretty important
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Speaker 11: for our economy. Look, I'd love to see people go
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Speaker 11: to the US, though this is I've got no problem
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Speaker 11: with the goverment going to China, as I say, their
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Speaker 11: biggest trading part. Of course we should talk to the
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Speaker 11: Chinese government. But why isn't the Why isn't this stranger
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Speaker 11: talking to the US government. They seem to run scared
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Speaker 11: from Donald Trump and we've ended up with not so
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Speaker 11: much megaphone diplomacy but social media to plomacy now where
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Speaker 11: we only seem to talk through truth, social or Twitter.
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Speaker 11: And look, I criticize the US administration as too. I
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Speaker 11: think I've said I'd like to see Trump and Trump'
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Speaker 11: administration work closer with his allies. I'd love to work
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Speaker 11: with the US administration, but it is a two way street.
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Speaker 11: And I'm not sure why Antony albniz, He's only gone
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Speaker 11: to Washington.
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Speaker 1: DC once. Why not go over there and have a
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Speaker 1: chat with Donald Trump.
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Speaker 11: You may not agree with him on everything, but he's
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Speaker 11: always up for a conversation. And the only way we're
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Speaker 11: going to influence things in the interests of our country,
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Speaker 11: of our region is to talk, is to communicate what
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Speaker 11: those interests are and make sure Australia's security concerns are
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Speaker 11: at the forefront of the Trump administration's mind.
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Speaker 2: Well, especially when you've got not just fuel security, but
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Speaker 2: there's the Orchest agreement that we need to really make
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Speaker 2: sure happens. Speaking of which it's facing more problems. Kay
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Speaker 2: has just had a government inquiry warning that its ability
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Speaker 2: to provide US with the nuclear submarines promised under the
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Speaker 2: Orchestra Pact is a major risk thanks to various government
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Speaker 2: shortages and failings in the UK.
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Speaker 3: How much of a concern is this report to you, Matt, Well, Look.
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Speaker 11: I don't think we should jump in shadows that this
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Speaker 11: is going to be a long term project which we'll
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Speaker 11: face hurdles from time to time. To my mind, all
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Speaker 11: of these types of issues when they come up, confirm
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Speaker 11: the importance of Australia looking after ourselves as well. We
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Speaker 11: can never, of course, one hundred percent rely on other countries.
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Speaker 11: Other countries are always going to prioritize their own defense
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Speaker 11: ahead of ours.
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Speaker 1: That's logical and understandable.
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Speaker 11: The people that should prioritize Australia's defense out of any
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Speaker 11: other country is Australia.
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Speaker 1: We should be taking that action.
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Speaker 11: That's why we should scrap this ridiculous idea of net
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Speaker 11: zero just holding our country back. Keep in mind that
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Speaker 11: this government going back to linking it to the refining discussion.
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Speaker 11: This government's imposed a car tax, and our last two
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Speaker 11: refineries we want to.
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Speaker 1: Keep them open. We're going to try and support them.
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Speaker 11: Instead, this government is making it's almost impossible for refining
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Speaker 11: to occurrous country. Certainly impossible for a new refinery to
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Speaker 11: start with those kinds of policies. So how about we
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Speaker 11: just look after ourselves for a change, because one is,
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Speaker 11: no one owes us anything. No one's going to be
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Speaker 11: out there looking after us if the chips chips fall.
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Speaker 11: So we've got a big continent, we've got lots of resources.
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Speaker 11: There's no need to panic. We just got to use
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Speaker 11: our country, use our country's resources, show some vision determination
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Speaker 11: and we're going to do just fine if we do that.
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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned energy policy. We're constantly told renewables are
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Speaker 2: the way to go, much cheaper than any other form
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Speaker 2: of energy, but the Center for Independent Studies has pointed
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Speaker 2: out that the Australian Energy Market Operator steadfastly refuses to
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Speaker 2: demand power grid planners compare the cost of pursuing renewables
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Speaker 2: against the baseline where all types of electricity generation, including
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Speaker 2: coal and nuclear, are on the tap and are considered equally.
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Speaker 2: The Center for Independent Study says the public's being misled
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Speaker 2: and that a fair comparison of energy forms will almost
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Speaker 2: certainly find coal was the cheapest, a nuclear would probably
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Speaker 2: be cheaper than renewables.
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Speaker 11: Any surprises their map, Well, if there's one person you
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Speaker 11: want to listen to on energy policy in this debate,
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Speaker 11: it's Aidan Morrison at the Center for Independent Studies. So
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Speaker 11: he has gone through every report possible that has been
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Speaker 11: written on this, and there's been a lot of reports
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Speaker 11: written on the energy crisis our nation is suffering through.
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Speaker 11: He knows it all. And what is buried in those
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Speaker 11: reports that Aidan has uncovered is the fact that the
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Speaker 11: government's plans do not estimate that renewable energy is the
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Speaker 11: cheapest form of power. What the government has done is
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Speaker 11: set up a planning process in which the deck is stacked,
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Speaker 11: because they tell the Energy Regulator that what you've got
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Speaker 11: to do is just estimate the cheapest way to get
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Speaker 11: to nets ERA, the cheapest way to get to an
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Speaker 11: eighty two two percent renewablenjie target by twenty thirty. The
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Speaker 11: Energy regulator does not look at the cheapest way of
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Speaker 11: just producing an energy and electricity for our country.
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Speaker 1: I will not asked that.
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Speaker 11: Now the Center of Independent Studies put in a rule change,
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Speaker 11: what's called a rule change request to say, hey, maybe
20:14
Speaker 11: you should maybe you should look at at whether or
20:17
Speaker 11: not this is actually the cheapest way of producing electricity
20:20
Speaker 11: for Australia and that's just been rejected by EMO and
20:23
Speaker 11: by effect the state governments to control state and federal
20:25
Speaker 11: goverments to control our EMO. And it just goes to
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Speaker 11: show these guys they just don't want to know the
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Speaker 11: answers because I think they know in the heart of
20:33
Speaker 11: hearts that the COS is right.
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Speaker 1: Adam Morrison is right.
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Speaker 11: If you did look at what the cheapest form of
20:38
Speaker 11: power is, it would come back as coal firepower. Why
20:41
Speaker 11: won't they ask these basic questions if we get in government,
20:45
Speaker 11: we're scrapping at zero and we're going to just run
20:47
Speaker 11: the system to.
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Speaker 1: Deliver the cheapest possible electricity prices for you.
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Speaker 3: All right before you go.
20:53
Speaker 2: You're joining us from the seat of Fara tonight where
20:55
Speaker 2: the bats, I must say, seem quite active behind you.
20:58
Speaker 2: How you spent most of the day campaigning at the
21:02
Speaker 2: Pharah Electric there pre polling opens the polls in just
21:05
Speaker 2: under two weeks time.
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Speaker 3: What's the mood on the ground today.
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Speaker 11: Look, it's pretty positive, a lot of conversations occurring. It
21:15
Speaker 11: wasn't a huge day in terms of numbers. I think
21:16
Speaker 11: people still waking up to know that the election is on.
21:21
Speaker 11: But look, we've got a National's Army out here. We're
21:23
Speaker 11: fighting hard this seat. I'm literally camping here in Demiloquent
21:27
Speaker 11: at the moment, so it's a beautiful part of our country.
21:29
Speaker 11: I've been very lucky to spend time here and I'd
21:32
Speaker 11: love to represent this part of the country again in
21:35
Speaker 11: the Nationals Party. The last time we had it was
21:36
Speaker 11: twenty five years ago with Tim Fisher, so we've got
21:39
Speaker 11: a bit of work to do reintroducing ourselves. But I've
21:41
Speaker 11: got a lot of energy as the new Nationals Party leader.
21:44
Speaker 11: I want to see more dams built in this country
21:46
Speaker 11: to return water back to farmers. The farming community in
21:49
Speaker 11: this area has just had too much taken away for
21:52
Speaker 11: too long. Obviously, want to get the cost of living down,
21:54
Speaker 11: like we've discussed by scrapping at zero, and basic services
21:58
Speaker 11: in our regional towns is just not what they used
22:00
Speaker 11: to be. So our candidt Brad Robertson has been fighting
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Speaker 11: for better hospitals, better healthcare for years before he ran
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Speaker 11: for politics because he had his own experiences with his
22:08
Speaker 11: own families of the costs of that. So as I say,
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Speaker 11: I am just energized with the prospect of fighting for
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Speaker 11: the great areas of our country, like here in southern
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Speaker 11: New South Wales.
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Speaker 1: It's not even that cold right now either. I'm loving that.
22:20
Speaker 1: It was a bit cool a week ago.
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Speaker 2: For I was going to I was going to say, Matt,
22:24
Speaker 2: for a man who's camping out, you look like you're
22:25
Speaker 2: doing pretty well.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you joining me tonight. Thanks so much.
22:29
Speaker 1: This is beautiful, beautiful, all right?
22:32
Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, the left's violent rehtric in
22:34
Speaker 2: the US continues even after the events of the weekend.
22:38
Speaker 2: So just how many assassination attempts will it take before
22:41
Speaker 2: they agree things have gone too far?
22:43
Speaker 3: That's coming up next.
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Speaker 2: Well, you'd think the Democrats would be a little subdued
22:50
Speaker 2: after the attempted Trump assassination at the weekend. It was
22:53
Speaker 2: the Dems, after all, who've been ramping up the retrick
22:56
Speaker 2: that led to the third attempt on the US President's life.
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Speaker 3: But far from exercising any.
23:01
Speaker 2: Sort of self reflection, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries has
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Speaker 2: doubled down comments he made about invoking maximum warfare on Republicans.
23:11
Speaker 2: Faced with criticism over the unnecessarily incendiary comments, he's what
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Speaker 2: he had to say.
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Speaker 12: So the comment related to maximum warfare everywhere, all the time,
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Speaker 12: in connection with the redistrict battle that Republicans launched. I
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Speaker 12: stand by it. You can continue to criticize me for it.
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Speaker 12: I don't give a damn about your criticism.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is Center for the American Experiment president
23:38
Speaker 2: and co founder of the popular power Line blog, John
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Speaker 2: heinder Acre. John, I'm amazed that, you know, the Democrats
23:46
Speaker 2: continue to insist that their retric has nothing to do
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Speaker 2: with these assassination attempts. It begs the question how many
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Speaker 2: assassination attempts will it take before they tone down the language.
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Speaker 13: Thing is that Hakim Jeffreys that all probability is going
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Speaker 13: to be the Speaker of the House starting in January.
24:06
Speaker 13: But this is how the Democrats talk. They act like
24:08
Speaker 13: they want a civil war. They've been trying to get
24:11
Speaker 13: Donald Trump killed for a decade now, calling him a Nazi,
24:15
Speaker 13: Adolf Hitler and so on. They are intentionally encouraging their
24:19
Speaker 13: more radical followers to try to kill him. There have
24:22
Speaker 13: been three assassination attempts so far. Trump has two years
24:27
Speaker 13: to go. They may yet succeed.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we also had Jimmy Kimmel who made this
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Speaker 2: joke about a mock correspondence Dinner broadcast just days before
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Speaker 2: the assassination attempt.
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Speaker 7: Have looked our first lady, Malania is here, look at
24:42
Speaker 7: more so beautiful missus Trump, you have a glow like
24:44
Speaker 7: an expectant widow.
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Speaker 1: Now.
24:48
Speaker 2: That prompted a lot of criticism and even gown in
24:50
Speaker 2: the response from White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt.
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Speaker 14: Just two days prior to the shooting, ABC's Late Night
24:57
Speaker 14: host Jimmy Kimmel disgustingly called for Lady Malania Trump an
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Speaker 14: expectant widow, who in their right minds says a wife
25:05
Speaker 14: would be glowing over the potential murder of her beloved husband.
25:09
Speaker 14: And having experienced what I did with the first lady
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Speaker 14: on Saturday Night, I can tell you that she was
25:13
Speaker 14: anything but that.
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Speaker 3: I can imagine.
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Speaker 2: John, you wrote a pretty scathing piece against Jimmy Kimmel, saying, quote,
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Speaker 2: it was never a joke at all. It was intended
25:24
Speaker 2: to elicit a laugh or perhaps applause at the idea
25:26
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump being dead, but its only purpose was
25:29
Speaker 2: to normalize the idea of chuckling at Trump's death. Has
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Speaker 2: Kimble apologized and wouldn't apology even be enough?
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Speaker 13: Actually, Kimmel has apologized. I assume the ABC suits twisted
25:43
Speaker 13: his arm. He has apologized, But that's absolutely right. The
25:46
Speaker 13: point I made is there was nothing funny about that line.
25:49
Speaker 13: He called it a joke. He said it was comedy.
25:52
Speaker 13: He's a comedian. I'm sorry. It wasn't a joke. It's
25:55
Speaker 13: not comedy. It isn't even remotely funny. He's just putting
25:59
Speaker 13: out there the idea that the audience should applaud and
26:02
Speaker 13: laugh at the idea of Donald Trump being dead. The
26:06
Speaker 13: Democrats do this all the time. They are normalizing the
26:10
Speaker 13: encouragement of political violence.
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Speaker 2: Well, the alleged shooter has been formally charged now with
26:16
Speaker 2: attempting to assassinate the US President, but investigations into his
26:20
Speaker 2: background to continuing. The DOJ particularly interested in his suspected
26:25
Speaker 2: links to a far left group called the Wide Awakes.
26:29
Speaker 3: What can you tell us about this group?
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Speaker 13: You know, honestly, I've never heard of them. I think
26:34
Speaker 13: they're very obscure. I think they exist mostly online. Reportedly
26:38
Speaker 13: they try to put out a demonstration or something. I
26:41
Speaker 13: think they're probably kind of on the fringe. But the
26:44
Speaker 13: point that I would make about Cole Allen is that
26:47
Speaker 13: he's very much a mainstream Democrat. In addition to the
26:51
Speaker 13: wide awakes whoever they are, He's participated in no Kings
26:55
Speaker 13: demonstrations which have been led by the leaders of the
26:58
Speaker 13: Democratic Party mainstream. He's done more than a thousand posts
27:03
Speaker 13: on Blue Sky, which is the left wing alternative to
27:07
Speaker 13: acts again frequented by Democratic politicians and journalists. And the
27:13
Speaker 13: real point I think is that as extreme as Alan
27:16
Speaker 13: obviously is when it comes to ideology, he is very
27:20
Speaker 13: much in the Democratic Party mainstream.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really interesting, and let's watch as they try
27:27
Speaker 2: to make him a fringe actor who's got nothing to
27:30
Speaker 2: do with the Democrat Party. That'll be certainly the play.
27:33
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the war in Iran.
27:36
Speaker 2: US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has called on the
27:38
Speaker 2: international community to increase pressure on Iran. What's he calling
27:43
Speaker 2: for and is there any significant about him calling for
27:46
Speaker 2: it at this moment because the war does seem to
27:49
Speaker 2: be in something of a stalemate right now.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
27:53
Speaker 13: The point that Rubio is making is that is that
27:56
Speaker 13: the US will not agree to any kind of a
27:58
Speaker 13: deal where Ran controls the Strait of Horror moves and
28:03
Speaker 13: charges a toll for ships to pass through. It and
28:06
Speaker 13: so forth, and Rubio is obviously right, this is an
28:09
Speaker 13: international waterway and it has to be open to traffic.
28:12
Speaker 13: My concern, honestly, is with the whole idea of trying
28:16
Speaker 13: to negotiate with what is left of the Iranian regime.
28:19
Speaker 13: It's not clear that there's anyone who can actually speak
28:23
Speaker 13: for Iran's government. Certainly no one can bind the government
28:27
Speaker 13: to future actions years down the road, so I don't
28:30
Speaker 13: really understand what Trump is trying to negotiate for. My
28:34
Speaker 13: own opinion is that we should forget about negotiations and
28:37
Speaker 13: if Iran tries to attack a ship or to block
28:40
Speaker 13: the Strait of Horror moves, we should respond militarily, for example,
28:44
Speaker 13: by blowing up a power plant or a bridge. I
28:47
Speaker 13: think that would be much more effective than trying to
28:50
Speaker 13: negotiate with these remnants of the regime, and.
28:54
Speaker 2: Just quickly with Marco Rubio calling for more international support.
28:58
Speaker 2: Of course, this week, the King of England is in
29:02
Speaker 2: the US. There's been a lot of frustration expressed by
29:06
Speaker 2: Donald Trump about Kiostama and his government's lack of support.
29:11
Speaker 2: How important is the King's visit.
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Speaker 13: Well, frankly, it's not very important. I mean we want
29:16
Speaker 13: to be on good terms with the British people and
29:18
Speaker 13: vice versa. But you know, Britain's base in Cypress, their
29:22
Speaker 13: naval base got attacked by Iran. They tried to get
29:25
Speaker 13: one ship to Cypress to defend that base, and they
29:28
Speaker 13: could barely do it. Took them a week or two
29:31
Speaker 13: to even get the ship there, and then the ship
29:33
Speaker 13: had to stop for repairs on the way back to England.
29:37
Speaker 13: I mean, the British Navy is a shell of its
29:39
Speaker 13: former self. I'm not sure there's much that they can
29:42
Speaker 13: do to help in the Strait of Hormuz or frankly
29:45
Speaker 13: anywhere else.
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Speaker 3: John, Heindreka always enjoy catching up with you. Thanks so much,
29:52
Speaker 3: Thank you.
29:53
Speaker 2: Now, just before we go to the break, one of
29:55
Speaker 2: the most remarkable scenes from the attempted assassination of Donald
29:58
Speaker 2: Trump at the weekend was footage.
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Speaker 3: Of a man calmly eating his dinner.
30:02
Speaker 2: While Secret Service agents swarmed and colleagues dived for cover
30:06
Speaker 2: under tables.
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Speaker 15: Now to the President, Steves and as John mentioned the
30:12
Speaker 15: White House Correspondence as dinner is where we are presently
30:15
Speaker 15: broadcasting from.
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Speaker 2: Well, the man in the video, Michael Glance, has told
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Speaker 2: The New York Times that he stayed in his seat
30:23
Speaker 2: despite the commotion because he didn't want to get his
30:26
Speaker 2: tuxedo dirty. He told The New York Times. I'm a
30:29
Speaker 2: New Yorker. We live with sirens and activity happening all
30:33
Speaker 2: the time. I wasn't scared. There are hundreds of Secret
30:36
Speaker 2: Service agents hurtling themselves over chairs and tables. I just
30:40
Speaker 2: wanted to watch. First of all, I have a bad back,
30:43
Speaker 2: I couldn't get on the floor. And number two, I'm
30:45
Speaker 2: a hygiene freak. There was no freaking way I was
30:48
Speaker 2: getting in my New Tucks on the dirty Hilton floor.
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Speaker 3: It was not happening. So there you go, bad back,
30:55
Speaker 3: new Tucks, dirty floor.
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Speaker 2: That's probably the most honest risk assessment I think I've
31:00
Speaker 2: ever heard.
31:01
Speaker 3: Some people really are just built different. All right, we're
31:03
Speaker 3: going to go to a break.
31:04
Speaker 2: Coming up in a moment, the list of girl bosses
31:07
Speaker 2: appointed by Anthony Albanesi ramps up. But are they the
31:11
Speaker 2: best people for the job. I'll be joined by my
31:13
Speaker 2: panel to discuss that and a whole lot more right
31:15
Speaker 2: after this. Well, as I mentioned earlier in the show,
31:21
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi today announced that senior public servant Meghan Quinn
31:25
Speaker 2: will become Secretary of Defense. This comes after Albanezi appointed
31:29
Speaker 2: Susan Coyle this first female Army Chief, a fortnight ago.
31:33
Speaker 2: So Anthony Alberaneesi is now appointed the first female RBA boss,
31:37
Speaker 2: first female Treasury Secretary, first female AFP chief, first female
31:42
Speaker 2: AG and SG, first female majority High Court.
31:45
Speaker 3: The list goes on and on.
31:47
Speaker 2: It gets to the point where you know, Anthony Albanezi
31:50
Speaker 2: would be better off now just telling us when the
31:52
Speaker 2: appointment is not a woman joining me as former Labour
31:55
Speaker 2: MP Michael Danby and Mia Schlitt, executive director at the
31:59
Speaker 2: Samuel Griffiths Society me or I'll start with you help
32:02
Speaker 2: me understand this.
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Speaker 3: Have I been making too much of this?
32:06
Speaker 2: Or do you get sick of being told every time
32:08
Speaker 2: a woman is appointed for the first time that she's
32:10
Speaker 2: the first female this or the first female that?
32:13
Speaker 1: Is it?
32:13
Speaker 3: Is it all really necessary?
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Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you what.
32:18
Speaker 4: And Anthony Albanezi certainly isn't shying away from the girl
32:21
Speaker 4: boss movement. But I am certainly sick of the girl
32:24
Speaker 4: boss movement. I mean, DEI has done nothing but set
32:27
Speaker 4: women backwards. Now we're in a position where when a
32:29
Speaker 4: woman is appointed to a high up role. She now
32:32
Speaker 4: has to bend over backwards to prove that she was
32:34
Speaker 4: appointed on the basis of merit rather than just being
32:37
Speaker 4: some kind of diversity quota. And that's where it's left
32:40
Speaker 4: us now. In this situation, there is a whole lot
32:42
Speaker 4: of public commentary around whether Meghan Quinn is a diversity
32:46
Speaker 4: quota higher or whether she is the best person for
32:48
Speaker 4: the job. But I'll tell you what, I certainly hope
32:50
Speaker 4: she is because in our under our defense pop folio
32:53
Speaker 4: at the moment, it has been more important that we
32:56
Speaker 4: have a strong team because when we stand with our
32:59
Speaker 4: relationship with the United States and President Trump, it is
33:02
Speaker 4: important that Australia gets fair di income about their defense industry.
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Speaker 2: You make some really good points, Michael, your thoughts on
33:09
Speaker 2: the appointment and labour seemingly giving themselves a paddle on the.
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Speaker 3: Back for it.
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Speaker 8: Good luck to her. Has she any experience in the military,
33:19
Speaker 8: Is she doing anything else? She got any plans to
33:21
Speaker 8: do anything about the fact that we can't get our
33:23
Speaker 8: quota of recruits into the Australian military. You know, it's
33:28
Speaker 8: I hope it's not a dei appointment, but being in
33:33
Speaker 8: the military and the army is a pretty specialized experience
33:36
Speaker 8: and being just some generalized bureaucrat from Canberra. However high
33:41
Speaker 8: flying you've been, it's not a hopeful sign in my view,
33:46
Speaker 8: of someone having the experience to deal with all the
33:49
Speaker 8: dreadful problems that this government has landed the Australian Defense
33:52
Speaker 8: Forces in, not the least of which is the Ben
33:54
Speaker 8: Robert Smith the defamation of the entire Special Forces.
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Speaker 2: You're right, both of you point out it's a pretty
34:02
Speaker 2: important time for our nations, so we wish her all
34:05
Speaker 2: the best and trust that she does a.
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Speaker 3: Really, really good job.
34:09
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the ISIS brides
34:10
Speaker 2: who are planning on a return to Australia. It's been
34:14
Speaker 2: revealed that male relatives of four of these women are
34:18
Speaker 2: accused of enslaving Yazidi girls in Northern East Syria. Legal
34:23
Speaker 2: experts say the women seeking to return here will not
34:25
Speaker 2: be charged with those alleged crimes. The PM kept his
34:29
Speaker 2: comments on the matter customarily brief.
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Speaker 6: Today, my views have not changed with regard to people
34:35
Speaker 6: who went overseas and chose chose to support ISIS rather
34:44
Speaker 6: than Australia. When ISIS had an objective of setting up
34:50
Speaker 6: a caliphate to literally attack democracies like Australia.
34:59
Speaker 3: And yet the government not doing anything to prevent their return. Miir.
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Speaker 2: It would be difficult to prove that these isis women
35:05
Speaker 2: were directly in control of slaves as opposed to simply
35:09
Speaker 2: being in the same house where their husbands had slaves.
35:11
Speaker 2: But still it's another reason for concern, is it not
35:14
Speaker 2: as if we needed more concern.
35:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, you raise an important point, James. Certainly it would
35:21
Speaker 4: be difficult to prove, but it does raise more questions,
35:24
Speaker 4: and unfortunately, I think it's another set of questions that
35:27
Speaker 4: will probably never receive any answers to the Labor government
35:31
Speaker 4: as this saga carries on and on and on, seems
35:33
Speaker 4: to be burying their head in the sand and just
35:36
Speaker 4: hoping the whole thing goes away so they can get
35:38
Speaker 4: away with not answering any of this. But quite rightly
35:41
Speaker 4: Australians are concerned. They are concerned that we have a
35:44
Speaker 4: cohort of women who left a liberal democracy here in
35:47
Speaker 4: Australia to join these households. Now we don't know the
35:51
Speaker 4: extent of their involvement in these households who were facilitating
35:54
Speaker 4: this form of slavery, but it raises a really important question.
35:58
Speaker 4: Are these the kind of people that we can import
36:00
Speaker 4: back into the community and still uphold community safety and
36:04
Speaker 4: social cohesion. I'm not sure, but unfortunately we have a
36:08
Speaker 4: government at the moment who just seems determined not to
36:11
Speaker 4: answer any of those questions you.
36:13
Speaker 2: Were speaking of, questions that were left unanswered. I was
36:17
Speaker 2: watching Tanya Plibasek the other day on morning television and
36:20
Speaker 2: she said, well, the law says that they have the
36:23
Speaker 2: right to return to Australia, at which point she was asked, well,
36:25
Speaker 2: why don't you change the law? And she undernard awkwardly
36:29
Speaker 2: and then just blamed the Coalition for their previous stance
36:32
Speaker 2: on these things. Michael, why won't the government, if they're
36:36
Speaker 2: so determined to prioritize the safety of Australian citizens, why
36:40
Speaker 2: won't they change the law to prevent these people coming back?
36:44
Speaker 8: This is meant to be a feminist government, James, and
36:47
Speaker 8: these two Yazdi six slaves interviewed by the left wing
36:53
Speaker 8: ABC Foreign correspondent, said they were forced to live in
36:57
Speaker 8: a house of the patriarch of this family in an
37:01
Speaker 8: area that Australia designated as a terrorist zone, and that
37:05
Speaker 8: anyone who lived there could be automatically charged.
37:09
Speaker 13: Now.
37:09
Speaker 8: I don't know why the government is so confident about
37:12
Speaker 8: these people not facing any charges. But they lived in
37:15
Speaker 8: a house where a woman was raped, a Yazidi sex
37:19
Speaker 8: slay for over a year. It's a disgrace. They should
37:23
Speaker 8: be kept out of the country. I have no sympathy
37:25
Speaker 8: for them, and I don't think most Australians do. And
37:28
Speaker 8: of course there could be a temporary exclusion order used.
37:31
Speaker 8: It's not the law, as Antonia Plebosex says, all of
37:34
Speaker 8: them are just using yes, Minister, talking points. You know
37:37
Speaker 8: that they'll face the full force of the law when
37:40
Speaker 8: the government won't do anything about it when they come here.
37:43
Speaker 8: They should and they should be kept out of the country.
37:46
Speaker 3: You are so right.
37:47
Speaker 2: This government is expert sticking to talking points. They do
37:49
Speaker 2: it very well actually, but as a consequence, we never
37:53
Speaker 2: get any information and we never know what they're really thinking.
37:57
Speaker 3: I want to touch on.
37:58
Speaker 2: Something a little different because the Sydney Moore Herald posted
38:01
Speaker 2: this map showing Sydney suburbs with the most and the
38:04
Speaker 2: least EV's, and it appears there's a higher concentration of
38:08
Speaker 2: evs in the wealthier North and Eastern suburbs. Who would
38:12
Speaker 2: have guessed, Michael, here's the irony to me of the
38:16
Speaker 2: renewable transition. It's supposed to make everything cheaper, but it's
38:21
Speaker 2: clearly favoring the rich.
38:24
Speaker 3: Well.
38:25
Speaker 8: I mean, evs are understandable or sensible when you're only
38:29
Speaker 8: driving small distances in the eastern suburbs of Sydney, but
38:33
Speaker 8: they make no sense in the current crisis. We've got
38:36
Speaker 8: what kind of trucks can go with EV from city
38:40
Speaker 8: to city hauling oil or diesel or fertilizer.
38:46
Speaker 1: None can, James it.
38:48
Speaker 8: The whole problem with this thing is you see it
38:50
Speaker 8: with this incredible forty two billion Malcolm Turnbull battery in
38:54
Speaker 8: the snowy mountains. This has not been costed. All of
38:58
Speaker 8: us are against pollution. Please put the real costs of
39:01
Speaker 8: these things against the alternatives, which is our current oil,
39:08
Speaker 8: gas and coal. The Australian people would be sensible to
39:12
Speaker 8: make their own judgments.
39:14
Speaker 2: I guess Mia when I saw that report. I mean,
39:17
Speaker 2: we all understand the price of fuel is exorbitant at
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Speaker 2: the moment, but it's still the people in wealthier suburbs
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Speaker 2: who can probably afford the price of fuel right now,
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Speaker 2: who are buying evs, which kind of makes the question
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Speaker 2: are evs really about the environment or are they a
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Speaker 2: bit of a fashion accessory for the wealthy.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think there's never been more evidence that net
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Speaker 4: zero and driving evs and a renewable energy transition, it's
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Speaker 4: an elitist policy. It's the inner city elites who are
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Speaker 4: driving evs because they're the only ones who can afford it.
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Speaker 4: Not to mention, they are welcoming a whole range of
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Speaker 4: subsidies and tax exemptions, all those kind of benefits that
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Speaker 4: are being paid off the back of hard working ordinary Australians.
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Speaker 4: Because are any people who support net zero are those
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Speaker 4: who can afford it, and unfortunately, those who can't afford
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Speaker 4: it are the ones who are being hit the hardest
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Speaker 4: by it. As Michael mentioned, it's those in our regional
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Speaker 4: communities who are being hit the hardest, and those are
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Speaker 4: the communities that we all rely upon for our food
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Speaker 4: and the fiber that props up this nation. So when
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Speaker 4: those costs end up flowing into the inner city, I'd
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Speaker 4: like to see just how many then still support net
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Speaker 4: zero when they're the ones who are having to pay
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Speaker 4: for it.
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Speaker 2: A really good point, all right, before I let you go.
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you we seeing the death of
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Speaker 2: Australian Americanism in the workplace. Debates erupted over this issue
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Speaker 2: as to whether the workplace banter is dying out because
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Speaker 2: of more sensitive workers and overly zealous PR departments or
40:43
Speaker 2: sorry HR departments. The debate was ignited after someone posted
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Speaker 2: online about how they'd noticed new colleagues weren't comfortable with
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Speaker 2: some of the office jokes. Michael, Obviously people can go
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Speaker 2: too far. But are we going in the right direction,
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Speaker 2: because it seems nowadays in the workplace people strictly talk
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Speaker 2: about work. There's no other banter because everyone's afraid that
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Speaker 2: they'll upset someone and then it'll be an HR issue.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it?
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Speaker 8: Sad? Jameson that great Australian sense of humor, you'd never
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Speaker 8: see many of the program's TV movies, et cetera that
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Speaker 8: Australians used to produce in the fifties, sixties, seventies already's
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Speaker 8: even used now. I mean that whole Australian sense of
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Speaker 8: humor is being killed by wokism. It's a tragedy for
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Speaker 8: this country because we had particularly good and specific sense
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Speaker 8: of humor.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right, all right, Before we go to
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Speaker 2: the break, We've got some breaking news. City of Sydney
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Speaker 2: councilors have shot down a motion calling on the council
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Speaker 2: to recognize the community tensions and the stress caused by
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Speaker 2: allowing that pro Palestini event called why It's Right to
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Speaker 2: Say Globalizing into Fata It's to be hosted at a
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Speaker 2: council owned East Sydney Community and Arts Center. The proposed motion,
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Speaker 2: which councilor would have debated and voted on, stated that
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Speaker 2: while they legally could not reverse the decision quote, the
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Speaker 2: hosting of the event within a council owned facility has
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Speaker 2: had an adverse impact on community cohesion by contributing to
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Speaker 2: division within the local community and causing distress and apprehension
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Speaker 2: among Jewish residents as well as of many other residents
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Speaker 2: who feel affected by the resulting tensions. Now the motion
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Speaker 2: was lapsed. There's no other councilors second in it, so
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Speaker 2: that event will go ahead. The council decided not even
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Speaker 2: to debate it. Right, We're going to go to a
42:35
Speaker 2: break coming up. Hezbollah is refusing to negotiate with Israel
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Speaker 2: and as even having issues with the Lebanese government, So
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Speaker 2: how is this going to end up. We'll have an
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Speaker 2: expert delve into that next. Well, with the world's attention
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Speaker 2: on the Strait of Humus, it's easy to forget that
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Speaker 2: Israel is still battling Islamus terror group Hezbollah. In Lebanon,
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Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyaho is demanding mol reaction on Hezbollah,
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Speaker 2: insisting the group's drones and rockets remain a threat to
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Speaker 2: Jews in the north of the country. In The Lebanese government, meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: wants to end the conflict, though Hesbela claims the government
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Speaker 2: has no right to negotiate with Israel, something they've called
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Speaker 2: a sin. For more, I'm joined by Lebanon and public
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Speaker 2: diplomacy expert Jonathan L.
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Speaker 3: Kuri.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan, thanks so much for coming on the program. Let's
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Speaker 2: start with Benjamin Nett and Yahoo. What sort of action
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Speaker 2: is he calling for?
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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, what we can see is that Hesbeala is
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Speaker 15: continuing on to break that ceasefire that it was announced
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Speaker 15: more than ten days ago and was extended by President
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Speaker 15: Trump this previous few days. And we see that Hesbala
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Speaker 15: is continuing on to fire drones and rockets even on
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Speaker 15: communities in the northern of Israel, and also on the
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Speaker 15: troops that are still inside of Lebanese territories from what
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Speaker 15: it's called, you know, the yellow line that Israel has
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Speaker 15: created in the south of and we've seen that Hesbela
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Speaker 15: is still on continuing their are kind of battles in
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Speaker 15: the battlefield and didn't cease fire. So Israeli Prime Minister
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Speaker 15: is requesting to continuing on harming and hitting Hebela as
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Speaker 15: harder as possible, though we don't really see those actions
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Speaker 15: that were before the ceasefire was announced, so we are
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Speaker 15: talking about a measured kind of counterattack in order to
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Speaker 15: respond to the breaking of that ceasefire by Hebela. At
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Speaker 15: the end of the day, what Israel is requesting, I
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Speaker 15: think it's very much simple. It's requesting their citizens be
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Speaker 15: safe and that the terrorist organization Hebela will not be
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Speaker 15: on their border or will not be active at all
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Speaker 15: to have any more future threats on Israel or on
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Speaker 15: Israel's citizens.
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Speaker 3: So just on that around.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we're insisting that any cease fire agreement with
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Speaker 2: the US had to include Israel agreeing to a cease
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Speaker 2: fire with Hebela, and we had our own Governmentia insisting
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Speaker 2: that that should be the case. Is it realistic for
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Speaker 2: governments like the Australian government to say to Israel, you
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Speaker 2: have to stop all military offenses against Hezbela in order
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Speaker 2: for around to agree to a cease far with the
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Speaker 2: United States.
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Speaker 3: What do you think of that position?
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Speaker 15: No, I think this is a complete ludicrous kind of
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Speaker 15: You can say a point of this kind of point
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Speaker 15: by the Australian government to request from Israel to stop
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Speaker 15: any continuing on fighting against the terrorist organization Hesbela that
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Speaker 15: is not just attacking Israelis by the way, it's using
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Speaker 15: the Libanese citizens as human shields, as we have witnessed
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Speaker 15: and as the Libanese are seeing themselves in the last
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Speaker 15: few months, that Hebela is dragging Lebanon to wars that
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Speaker 15: has nothing to do with any Lebanese cause. We need
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Speaker 15: one hundred percent separation of fronts or separation of campaigns
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Speaker 15: in this battlefield. That Iranian war is the Iranian war
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Speaker 15: and the Hesbela war is the Hesbela war, where Israel
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Speaker 15: is basically standing alone in that front. The US is
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Speaker 15: not included in that campaign. The US is not part
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Speaker 15: of it or calling the shots on what's going on
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Speaker 15: inside of the Lebanese you know also government or the
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Speaker 15: war between Hebelan as well. Yet I don't think that
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Speaker 15: the Lebanese would be happy that the Lebanese case would
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Speaker 15: be also connected to the Iranian case, because we've heard
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Speaker 15: the Lebanese President Joseph On and even the Prime Minister
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Speaker 15: of Lebanon Nouef Selam, one day after the ceasefire was
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Speaker 15: announced with Iran and Iran basically said that his Balan
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Speaker 15: Lebanon are included in that. Noef Celan, the Prime Minister
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Speaker 15: of Lebanon said, no one will dare to negotiate on
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Speaker 15: behalf of Lebanon and only Lebanon will negotiate any ceasefires
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Speaker 15: regarding to Lebanese territory and Lebanese cases. So the Lebanese
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Speaker 15: government itself is requesting the world to separate the Lebanese
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Speaker 15: case between the Iranian case because Lebanon needs to work
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Speaker 15: on its own independent, on its own sovereignty.
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Speaker 3: And Iran.
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Speaker 15: We know that the Islamic Republic of Iran have been
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Speaker 15: really calling the shots on Lebanon, on the Lebanese politics,
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Speaker 15: on whether Lebanon goes to war or goes to any
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Speaker 15: other actions. They have been really insisting on demanding from
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Speaker 15: the Lebanese to suffer on their behalf. And this is
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Speaker 15: the time that the Libanese government and the Libanese people
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Speaker 15: to its most majority, are saying that we don't want
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Speaker 15: any involvement from the Islamic Republic of Iran. We want
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Speaker 15: that grip that Iran has on the Libanese territories and
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Speaker 15: the Lebanese politics to be completely excluded out. And this
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Speaker 15: is something that I think Australia and the rest of
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Speaker 15: the international community needs to stand by. These two governments.
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Speaker 15: Now today we have very much official governments, one the
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Speaker 15: Israeli government. The other one is the Libanese government that
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Speaker 15: is also requesting and calling for the full disarmament of Hezbela.
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Speaker 15: So what are you basically asking, this is what I'm
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Speaker 15: asking the Australian government. What are you asking from Lebanon
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Speaker 15: to continuing on suffering and being under an occupation of
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Speaker 15: the stomach Republic of Iran only to satisfy Iran. This
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Speaker 15: is something that is completely unacceptable.
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Speaker 3: Jonathan, You've explained that really, really well.
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Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense, and I understand better
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Speaker 2: why our government's proposal was so insane appreciate you joining
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Speaker 2: me tonight, really appreciate your time. All right, that's it
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Speaker 2: for me, stick around. Coming up right now is Sharry Markson.
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Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow night.
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Speaker 1: Good night,