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- 0:05Ellie Alexander: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of Reality Writes.
- 0:10Ellie Alexander: I am author Ellie Alexander, and this is the podcast where we talk about all things bookish, writer-ish, and we try to go behind the scenes to give you a taste of what it means to be an author in 2026 and beyond.
- 0:23Ellie Alexander: And um, as always, I'm here with the Tech Guy.
- 0:27Tech Guy: Hello, hello.
- 0:28Tech Guy: Uh, today we're gonna be talking fall, all things fall.
- 0:33Ellie Alexander: Fall.
- 0:34Ellie Alexander: It's fall, y'all.
- 0:35Ellie Alexander: I mean, it kind of almost is fall.
- 0:37Ellie Alexander: I literally just got back from the grocery store, and there is an entire wall of fall candy.
- 0:44Ellie Alexander: We're talking candy corn, pumpkins, everything.
- 0:47Ellie Alexander: I can't believe it.
- 0:47Ellie Alexander: It's August.
- 0:48Ellie Alexander: What's happening?
- 0:49Tech Guy: Well, we were just out for a walk the other day, and you commented on the fact that the trees are just starting to turn here.
- 0:57Tech Guy: It seems like summer just started, and we're already we're already into fall.
- 1:02Tech Guy: Of course, here in the Bay Area, uh, the kids are starting back to school in just a few weeks, right?
- 1:09Ellie Alexander: Yeah, probably now-ish.
- 1:11Ellie Alexander: Yeah.
- 1:11Ellie Alexander: Yeah.
- 1:12Tech Guy: That's that's true.
- 1:13Tech Guy: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:14Tech Guy: Um having grown up in the Pacific Northwest, where school starts a little bit later in actual fall, um, this is uh this is kind of wild to see.
- 1:24Ellie Alexander: But fall is my favorite season, so I am not sad about this at all.
- 1:29Tech Guy: I was gonna say, um, I know that fall is something that's near and dear to your heart.
- 1:35Tech Guy: So today we're gonna be talking about a fall to remember, your upcoming rom-com.
- 1:42Ellie Alexander: A fall to remember.
- 1:44Ellie Alexander: I know.
- 1:44Ellie Alexander: I still can't believe it's already here almost.
- 1:47Tech Guy: Yeah.
- 1:48Tech Guy: But this one, we've teased a little bit on this uh podcast before.
- 1:52Tech Guy: Uh, but since we're so close to the release date, I thought we would do a deep dive.
- 1:57Tech Guy: Again, for the darlings out there, spoiler-free, not going to be talking about anything that will ruin the read for you, but uh, we're talking about A Fall to Remember, which releases September 1st.
- 2:10Ellie Alexander: September 1st.
- 2:11Ellie Alexander: It's coming at you.
- 2:13Tech Guy: So, why does this one feel different from your other rom-coms that you've written so far?
- 2:21Ellie Alexander: Yeah, that's such a good question.
- 2:22Ellie Alexander: I mean, so first of all, the two holiday rom-coms that I've written thus far are set in bend during the winter holiday season.
- 2:32Ellie Alexander: And the first one brought back a mystery character, Meg Reid, my first OG sleuth, and gave her a love arc and had these intertwining stories.
- 2:42Ellie Alexander: This is a totally brand new setting in Half Moon Bay, California, which is like 30 minutes away from us.
- 2:49Tech Guy: A real place.
- 2:50Ellie Alexander: It's a real place.
- 2:51Ellie Alexander: And once I've been living somewhere, and when we take road trips to go explore places near us, I of course, like that writer part of my brain can't shut up.
- 3:00Ellie Alexander: And I'm like, oh, this could be a great setting for a book.
- 3:02Ellie Alexander: Oh, this could be a great setting for a book.
- 3:05Ellie Alexander: Um, but this book is very of the moment, I feel like.
- 3:09Ellie Alexander: Miranda, the main character, is in her late 40s.
- 3:15Ellie Alexander: She's like trying to figure out what her next chapter is.
- 3:20Ellie Alexander: I was in that head same headspace, you know, like there's this transition that starts to happen once your kids have flown the nest a little bit and you're deciding, like, okay, now I have this opportunity, not necessarily to reinvent myself, but to think about like, wow, I spent a lot of time raising kids, and now what do I want?
- 3:39Ellie Alexander: Um, and I really love exploring that as a main character and that kind of energy.
- 3:45Ellie Alexander: So that feels very different to me.
- 3:47Ellie Alexander: And then, of course, this one is set at my favorite season, which I just alluded to.
- 3:52Ellie Alexander: No, no spoilers here.
- 3:54Ellie Alexander: Fall.
- 3:54Ellie Alexander: I love everything about fall.
- 3:56Ellie Alexander: I love the smells, I love the scents, I love the food, I love all of it.
- 4:02Ellie Alexander: Um, and to get to just immerse myself in fall and love was brilliant.
- 4:08Tech Guy: Definitely.
- 4:09Tech Guy: And and I know how much you like uh writing about fall.
- 4:13Tech Guy: It has been a little weird to have, you know, uh us be not in fall, but have the house smell like fall and have fallish playlists and fallish bakes going on in the house, uh, all to get you in the space to write this.
- 4:30Tech Guy: But you've obviously written a lot of cozy mysteries over the years, and you prior to writing cozy mysteries were a prolific reader of cozy mysteries and cozy mystery TV shows, uh, all of the above.
- 4:47Tech Guy: And something that darlings out there might not know about you is that rom-coms are also a favorite of yours.
- 4:54Tech Guy: You're a big reader of rom-coms.
- 4:56Tech Guy: Do were there any in particular that kind of put you in the headspace for writing this one?
- 5:02Ellie Alexander: Yeah, I have always been a lover of rom-coms.
- 5:05Ellie Alexander: Um, and I I tend to like I go in cycles, you know.
- 5:10Ellie Alexander: I I love a rom-com during the fall and during the holiday season.
- 5:13Ellie Alexander: You've always, for Christmas, purchased me a stack of anything that's like bookish, romance, Christmas, check, check, check.
- 5:22Ellie Alexander: Um, and I have a lot of favorite authors in the rom-com space.
- 5:26Ellie Alexander: I really love Emily Henry.
- 5:28Ellie Alexander: So I think sort of that kind of tone.
- 5:31Ellie Alexander: I love anything that Jenny Colgan writes.
- 5:34Ellie Alexander: Um, she's like my auto buy in this category.
- 5:37Ellie Alexander: I love Christina Lauren.
- 5:39Ellie Alexander: I will say all of the rom-coms that I have written and are likely to write um are nobody, no spice.
- 5:48Ellie Alexander: Um, so some of those authors, Lori Gilmore um writes a lot of great fall cozies.
- 5:53Ellie Alexander: And I I had a darling ask, like, oh, I really like the fall part and I like the rom-com part, but I'm not a spice girl.
- 6:02Ellie Alexander: And that's also true for me.
- 6:03Ellie Alexander: Like, I love that it exists, but that wouldn't be my slant, myself for writing.
- 6:08Ellie Alexander: I think, especially coming from the cozy space, you know, where the most that ever happens is maybe a kiss is alluded to.
- 6:14Ellie Alexander: There's there's a touch more uh of that in chemistry, I would say, in these books, but uh, these are more like your classic rom-coms versus spicy romance.
- 6:24Tech Guy: And I know that is a frequent question that you're asked about the rom-coms you've already written.
- 6:29Tech Guy: So it's not a surprise that is already coming up for a fall to remember as well.
- 6:34Tech Guy: What is the hardest shift that you have to make from writing a mystery to moving over to write a rom com?
- 6:42Ellie Alexander: Yeah, well, you know this because I was lamenting so much.
- 6:46Ellie Alexander: Initially, I really felt like, oh, writing a rom-com is going to be easy because you don't have to follow the same structure.
- 6:52Ellie Alexander: There are kind of these three arcs, right?
- 6:54Ellie Alexander: They meet, something happens to tear them apart, and then they come back together at the end.
- 6:58Ellie Alexander: Whereas a mystery is so driven in terms of suspects and red herrings and plot twists and reveals, and then you do it all over again with the next suspect, and you're building all the way until you close the case.
- 7:10Ellie Alexander: So I think really having to like take everything that I know and I've done really like almost in my sleep when it comes to writing a cozy anymore, because I've written so many and throw it all out the window and start fresh.
- 7:26Ellie Alexander: And for me, such a big part of my process is all the work that I do ahead of writing.
- 7:32Ellie Alexander: You know, I spend a good few days like sketching out a 10, 15-page outline.
- 7:38Ellie Alexander: So I really know where my mysteries are going before I start writing.
- 7:42Ellie Alexander: I have a good, clear blueprint that I'm working off of.
- 7:47Ellie Alexander: Obviously, I give myself permission that if something really great happens along the way, I'm gonna follow that.
- 7:52Ellie Alexander: But with the wrong comment is more about sinking into like, okay, we're talking about really character-driven stories and those emotional growth arcs.
- 8:04Ellie Alexander: And then how do you weave some level of plot into that?
- 8:09Ellie Alexander: And what I know about myself, not only as a writer, but also as a reader, like I really love plot-driven stories.
- 8:16Ellie Alexander: I've decided, like, and I'm okay with that, right?
- 8:19Ellie Alexander: Um, but I do, I struggled, I would say, a lot more with figuring out that balance point between needing to focus in on the emotional growth arcs, but then wanting to go back to like, okay, plot, but then what happens?
- 8:33Ellie Alexander: Like, what's the twist?
- 8:34Tech Guy: What's the right, right?
- 8:36Tech Guy: What what about what about developing Miranda as a as a character?
- 8:41Tech Guy: So you you have Juliet in uh in the Bake Shop Mysteries, you have Sloan in the Sloan Krause mysteries, you have Annie in the secret bookcase mysteries, and then subsequent novel detective series.
- 8:54Tech Guy: They're all living their lives but solving crimes, uh, you know, uh along the way.
- 9:01Tech Guy: Yeah.
- 9:02Tech Guy: But this is different.
- 9:03Tech Guy: Miranda, there's no, like you said, no, no body, no crime, no spice.
- 9:09Ellie Alexander: No body, no crime, no spice.
- 9:11Ellie Alexander: Yeah.
- 9:12Tech Guy: What what it what is it like?
- 9:13Tech Guy: What's the difference in developing a character like that where you have this one major component that is normally present for uh a protagonist in in a book or a series, and that's just not there.
- 9:26Ellie Alexander: Yeah, I think I think that's what I struggled with initially, is like, okay, usually I have all these other layers or things that they need to be doing.
- 9:32Ellie Alexander: Uh it's great because Miranda is a character.
- 9:35Ellie Alexander: So any darlings out there who um aren't familiar with the little blurb or the pitch for a fall to remember is that Miranda Brown has become this accidental influencer.
- 9:46Ellie Alexander: She goes on this vacation to Catalina Island and she takes all these terrible pictures of her toes and the beautiful scenery with, like, you know, a bus going by or whatever it is.
- 9:57Ellie Alexander: Um, and she comes home and her son Pete is like, oh mom, this is so great.
- 10:01Ellie Alexander: And kind of on a whim, he posts those online and she goes absolutely viral for all the right reasons, of course, because people really resonate with her.
- 10:10Ellie Alexander: And she's just like so in the moment and caught up in the beauty and the joy of being on this solo trek by herself that she doesn't even care that she's taking bad pictures.
- 10:20Ellie Alexander: Um, and so that was kind of my entry into who she was.
- 10:26Ellie Alexander: And then it took me, I would say, longer to find her as a character.
- 10:31Ellie Alexander: I don't think I fully knew her until maybe the second or third draft of this book.
- 10:36Ellie Alexander: And I'm really going back and forth a lot with my editor and thinking about like, okay, how do we make sure that she, as this new accidental influencer, she gets invited to um, you know, do something for a company kind of like Expedia, where she's actually taking people on a tour of her beloved Half Moon Bay during this fall pumpkin harvest festival.
- 11:00Ellie Alexander: How do we make sure that the joke's not on her?
- 11:05Ellie Alexander: Like she's in on it too.
- 11:07Ellie Alexander: She's comfortable in her own skin.
- 11:10Ellie Alexander: She's able to laugh at herself and have that sense of self-deprecation, but without her being like the butt of the joke.
- 11:17Ellie Alexander: And so, like, I think in the first pass or two, that was really my focus for her is making sure, like, okay, we don't, I don't want her to be, she's not like, she's not a Meg, right?
- 11:26Ellie Alexander: Where Meg is just kind of clueless.
- 11:28Ellie Alexander: Like, she's in midlife now.
- 11:31Ellie Alexander: She's going through perimenopause, she's got all, she's got all of her things.
- 11:35Ellie Alexander: Her son has grown.
- 11:36Ellie Alexander: She hasn't really had love herself because she's put that aside to raise her son and her niece and run the green growth show.
- 11:44Ellie Alexander: So so there were there were a lot of layers, but it took a while to unpack and find those because the writing process was so vastly different than writing a mystery.
- 11:55Tech Guy: Yeah, Meg, uh, that reminds me, I forgot Meg that Meg Reed investigates mysteries.
- 12:00Tech Guy: And then exactly.
- 12:02Tech Guy: It's uh Meg started it all.
- 12:05Tech Guy: Um, and and then of course Britta, who is uh a lesser-known but but also uh a protagonist in one of your series.
- 12:13Tech Guy: So that is a lot of mystery heroines uh that uh Miranda is not like.
- 12:21Tech Guy: So tell me, was there a lot of planning that had to go into it, a lot of trial and error and finding Miranda's voice, or did you sit down and at one point during your writing go, okay, now I know who Miranda is.
- 12:34Tech Guy: Now I it I know exactly what her voice is, who who she is as a person, and and kind of went from there.
- 12:42Ellie Alexander: Yeah, I mean, I I don't think there was one like defining point.
- 12:45Ellie Alexander: I think it was more of a slow evolution, but I feel like I was able to tap into my own experiences of, you know, being in this midpoint in my life and thinking about like, oh, what is next for me and what do I want and how do I feel differently?
- 13:01Ellie Alexander: And it's fun to write a character that's um, you know, that had more life experience and is able to really sink into who she is and know that, especially I think going into love and romance and this arc of her finding love.
- 13:16Ellie Alexander: So that part was interesting for me.
- 13:18Ellie Alexander: I think the challenge really came in that balance, yet again to go back to it, um, plot, just because I am so driven to like, we need a body, we've got so much blood, we need a victim, we need these suspects.
- 13:33Ellie Alexander: Um, so really, I think to any darlings out there who were writing and thinking about writing in multiple genres, I think it's a great thing because it was a brand new challenge for me.
- 13:45Ellie Alexander: I love pushing myself out of my comfort zone.
- 13:48Ellie Alexander: I finished the first draft of this MOOC and was like, oh God, this needs a ton of work.
- 13:54Ellie Alexander: Like at a level that I'm not used to experiencing right now with my cozies because that is so second nature to me.
- 14:00Ellie Alexander: Not that a first draft, like they are all still a first draft, but anymore, like if you read my first draft, you would go, oh, okay, she's gonna layer some stuff in, but the plot and the through lines are all there.
- 14:11Ellie Alexander: Whereas with this, it's like, okay, now we have this scene and this scene, and how am I gonna weave it all together?
- 14:16Ellie Alexander: Yeah.
- 14:17Tech Guy: All right, let's switch gears and move from the characters to, well, in a way, another character, but the setting, which, as you said, is Half Moon Bay, California, which, like the Bake Shop Mysteries in Ashland, Oregon, is a real place.
- 14:35Tech Guy: And the Sloan Krauss mysteries in Leavenworth, Washington, which is a real place, Half Moon Bay is a lovely little town on the California coast.
- 14:46Tech Guy: And I know from uh being married to you for so many years that this is one of your absolute favorite parts of writing is the research trips.
- 14:58Tech Guy: So tell the darlings out there a little bit about Half Moon Bay and your experiences discovering it.
- 15:05Tech Guy: Before you get started, though, I will tell the darlings out there if it is always a pleasure going with Ellie on these research trips because I get to stand there and watch as she takes photo after photo after photo of the most random things.
- 15:22Tech Guy: But it it's like seeing a location through her eyes because there are things that you will see that a normal person would just walk by, but you're like, that's gonna be in a book.
- 15:35Tech Guy: That that that is gonna be in a scene in the book that I'm writing.
- 15:38Tech Guy: I need to take a picture of this, make some notes about it, et cetera, et cetera.
- 15:42Ellie Alexander: Well, yeah.
- 15:43Ellie Alexander: And the first thing that comes to mind with that is the second time we were there.
- 15:46Ellie Alexander: And I had already written the first draft, the second time we were there for a research trip.
- 15:51Ellie Alexander: I'd already writ written the first draft of A Fall to Remember.
- 15:54Ellie Alexander: And one of the first things that I clued onto was this old rustic gate that was like part of kind of a courtyard and the lock was all weird and rusty.
- 16:06Ellie Alexander: And I was like, oh my gosh, this would be such a great place for a body.
- 16:10Ellie Alexander: No, stop.
- 16:12Ellie Alexander: Like, no, because again, I think my slant is so much the juxtaposition of going to these sweet, charming towns and then imagining the fact that like something so horrific, like a murder would happen, and then how the town's gonna come together and everybody's gonna rally and we're gonna have justice at the end.
- 16:29Ellie Alexander: Or this, I was like, no, where are they gonna go on a date night?
- 16:33Ellie Alexander: Like, how are they gonna walk from town to the beach?
- 16:36Ellie Alexander: Where could they bump into each other?
- 16:38Ellie Alexander: Like, where could the holiday parade take place?
- 16:41Ellie Alexander: Uh, so it really was a mindset shift for me, even in terms of fleshing out the setting and making Half Moon Bay my own too.
- 16:51Ellie Alexander: Like all the other places that you've talked about, I do sometimes feel like it's cheating because I'm not needing to stretch my imagination much because it is so charming and so different than the other locations where I've sent my books to, which for me I think is important because I want to make sure that they stay fresh and that they reflect, you know, my writing up until now, but also maybe some new writing and um feeling that sense of like, oh, this is slightly different.
- 17:22Ellie Alexander: It's it's Ellie, it's Ellie's voice, it's all those things, but it's it's not exactly the same as maybe what you've read before.
- 17:29Tech Guy: Yeah, and you talked about Half Moon Bay being very charming and walkable.
- 17:33Tech Guy: And that that brings me to my next point, which is you do take some creative license because in your book series, um, you tend to move places around or repurpose existing locations to be something else.
- 17:50Tech Guy: Were there any major changes you need to make to Half Moon Bay for a fall to remember?
- 17:56Ellie Alexander: Yeah, I mean, like, so the the bulk of the story takes place at the Green Grocer, which is this specialty gourmet uh market grocery store deli counter that Miranda and her family have owned since the 1950s.
- 18:11Ellie Alexander: And there is a really fabulous grocery store in downtown Half Moon Bay, but um, I moved the location.
- 18:17Ellie Alexander: And this actual store is kind of a mashup of a lot of other places that I've been before.
- 18:23Ellie Alexander: Like there's this wonderful German deli in Portland, Oregon that we used to go to.
- 18:27Ellie Alexander: There's a fantastic specialty um grocery store in Pike's Market in Seattle.
- 18:34Ellie Alexander: So like I just will take little nuggets of other places and start to build out something that feels like my own.
- 18:41Ellie Alexander: And then there were logistical things, and you know this from our trips where it's like, okay, I know we're downtown, but now I need to figure out like, yeah, I know we can drive this way to the beach, but how could we walk?
- 18:52Ellie Alexander: And what's that like?
- 18:54Ellie Alexander: So there's this beautiful like row of eucalyptus um and ew trees, this whole grove that you can walk through to get there.
- 19:02Ellie Alexander: Um, but I didn't want that to be like in reality, you have to cross a highway to take a walk.
- 19:10Ellie Alexander: But like that's not quite as uh charming, right?
- 19:13Ellie Alexander: So like I'm just gonna cut that out of the book and they're gonna have this sweet little path from downtown that takes you down to the beach, like small details like that.
- 19:21Ellie Alexander: But the bulk of the vibes of Half Moon Bay, I feel like are there.
- 19:26Tech Guy: Yeah.
- 19:26Tech Guy: So for the darlings out there who get a fall to remember and read it, and then subsequently visit Half Moon Bay, California.
- 19:33Tech Guy: If you if you try to walk from the grocery store to the beach, just FYI, there will be the coastal highway between you and the and the sand.
- 19:42Ellie Alexander: So yeah, that's right.
- 19:43Ellie Alexander: I mean, which you can do.
- 19:44Ellie Alexander: There's a crosswalk, there's a light, like it can definitely be done, but it might not be quite as charming as what you're gonna see in the book.
- 19:53Tech Guy: Yeah, yeah.
- 19:54Tech Guy: Is it safe to say that this is the one part of writing both cozy mysteries and rom-coms that is very similar, that whole sensory world building?
- 20:04Ellie Alexander: Yeah, for sure.
- 20:05Ellie Alexander: And, you know, I don't know why I decided that she was gonna own a grocery store.
- 20:11Ellie Alexander: And the green grocer is one of the first things that came to me when I was sketching out the concept for this and then pitching it and having a chat with my editor about it.
- 20:20Ellie Alexander: Um, but I guess probably like in the back of my head, that was a not so subtle way to be able to work some food writing into this book, too.
- 20:31Ellie Alexander: We just talked about this on a previous podcast, but that is just who I am at my core.
- 20:36Ellie Alexander: Like, there's so much food writing that has already happened, clearly because of the bake shop.
- 20:41Ellie Alexander: But the same is true with Sloan, even Meg, and to go way back when I was first out on submission with Meg and trying to find an agent and querying.
- 20:51Ellie Alexander: One of the first agents who I got an offer from, I did not end up going with this agent, um, but they were lovely and they were excited and eager to work with me.
- 21:01Ellie Alexander: But they wanted me to cut out like all mentions of coffee or food or beer, even back then in Meg.
- 21:07Ellie Alexander: And she's she's a journalist.
- 21:09Ellie Alexander: Like there's she's not in the kitchen at all, but food was already central.
- 21:13Ellie Alexander: So I think the green grocer has been a way for me to be able to like take those pieces of my mysteries too and like add just like a little touch because maybe she's preparing a lovely sandwich as she's flirting over the deli counter with this handsome travel uh person who's come to town.
- 21:33Tech Guy: Speaking of lovely, this is a love story.
- 21:38Tech Guy: Uh like you said, no spice.
- 21:40Tech Guy: Uh so this is this is definitely a romance.
- 21:43Ellie Alexander: Uh yes.
- 21:45Tech Guy: So in your mysteries, you usually have multiple storylines.
- 21:50Tech Guy: There's there's, you know, the overarching mystery and then er but but everything seems to kind of converge in that mystery uh it or converge at the crime, the Uh, the murder, as it were.
- 22:02Tech Guy: Um, with a fall to remember, is there a convergence point like that?
- 22:07Tech Guy: Or is it uh is it totally different than than Cozy's in that regard?
- 22:12Ellie Alexander: No, you know, for me, I love stories about female friendship, like strong, central female characters.
- 22:19Ellie Alexander: And I also love that idea of like weaving multiple love stories into a book.
- 22:25Ellie Alexander: So I did that with the first two rom-coms that I wrote, and I've done that again.
- 22:30Ellie Alexander: So I feel like maybe this is kind of my lane for that.
- 22:34Ellie Alexander: So we have Jim and Miranda, which is the central love story for this one.
- 22:38Ellie Alexander: Jim's coming to town with Voyager Travel, think Expedia.
- 22:42Ellie Alexander: And, you know, he is instantly smitten with Miranda and her authenticity and just like how comfortable she is in her skin and kind of laughing at herself.
- 22:52Ellie Alexander: And then his younger partner and colleague, Shelby, has also come into town.
- 22:58Ellie Alexander: And she has a very different vision for how Miranda should be treated as an influencer.
- 23:03Ellie Alexander: She wants to level Miranda up.
- 23:05Ellie Alexander: She wants Miranda filtered and in makeup, and she doesn't want any of this kind of kitschy, like stumbling upon um, you know, a proposal or like whatever funny thing Miranda's gonna accidentally do.
- 23:18Ellie Alexander: Um, and so there's already then some instant tension between Shelby's goal and Jim's goal, just as far as Miranda goes.
- 23:26Ellie Alexander: But Shelby and Miranda's son Pete have kind of some instant chemistry.
- 23:32Ellie Alexander: Um and so there's kind of a subplot of what's happening with them, which no spoilers, but that might continue in book two of this series, which will come out next fall.
- 23:46Tech Guy: Oh, so that may have been a spoiler in and of itself.
- 23:49Tech Guy: Uh Fall to Remember will be part of a series.
- 23:54Ellie Alexander: Yes.
- 23:54Ellie Alexander: Mm-hmm.
- 23:55Ellie Alexander: Yeah.
- 23:55Ellie Alexander: And the way that series work in the rom-com space is slightly different because you have a satisfying love story for the main arc, of course, because otherwise, darling would feel cheated.
- 24:07Ellie Alexander: Like, wait a minute, I'm left hanging.
- 24:09Ellie Alexander: And then usually a second or third book in this same world picks up with different characters, characters who maybe we've met in the first book, perhaps some new characters.
- 24:19Ellie Alexander: For book two, it will be again similar things where there will be multiple POVs that I'm writing from, which is also to go back to your point, very different than my mystery writing.
- 24:30Ellie Alexander: In all of my mysteries, I am writing from first person POV from Jules' point of view, from Sloan, from Annie.
- 24:39Ellie Alexander: So we are in their head.
- 24:40Ellie Alexander: There's so much that you can do as a writer.
- 24:42Ellie Alexander: I mean, there are pros and cons, right?
- 24:44Ellie Alexander: But there's so much you can do because you're fully in this one character's point of view.
- 24:48Ellie Alexander: So everything that's happening to Jules is happening to us as the readers on the page.
- 24:53Ellie Alexander: In this book, there are four different points of view.
- 24:56Ellie Alexander: So we have Miranda, Shelby, Jim, and Pete.
- 24:59Ellie Alexander: And so I'm switching back and forth between all their POVs.
- 25:03Ellie Alexander: So we get to see different things that are happening from different characters' lens, which again, as a writer, is great, super challenging.
- 25:13Ellie Alexander: And I had to go back quite a few times and make sure, like, oh, okay, well, wait, does that scene make sense to be in Pete's point of view?
- 25:20Ellie Alexander: Or would we learn something different if we're in Jim's point of view?
- 25:24Ellie Alexander: So there are a lot of other decisions that I'm having to make when I'm working on this style of rom-com than I have to make in mystery writing at all.
- 25:32Tech Guy: Oh, that's interesting.
- 25:33Tech Guy: Okay, so Miranda and Jim, Shelby and Pete.
- 25:37Tech Guy: Was writing the interactions between one couple versus the other more interesting or more fun?
- 25:44Tech Guy: Or did they each uh have their own interests and and you know excitement for you?
- 25:51Ellie Alexander: Well, what I learned early on is I'm too quick to want to rush the romance for both of these right out of the gate.
- 25:57Ellie Alexander: I initially was like, oh my gosh, they they have this instant meat cute because I love like old school 80s and 90s rom-coms.
- 26:06Ellie Alexander: Like they don't make them so much.
- 26:08Ellie Alexander: Like we need, we need a resurgence of like great rom-coms or even like, you know, how to lose a guy in 10 days, when Harry Met Sally, my best friend's wedding.
- 26:18Ellie Alexander: Like I could go on and on.
- 26:19Ellie Alexander: I love that.
- 26:20Ellie Alexander: I love the meat cute, I love this then tension, blah, blah, blah.
- 26:23Ellie Alexander: What I learned about myself as a writer is I was like, okay, they've met, they have, they've had this moment, they have this thing that tears them apart, but it wasn't until draft two or three, and then working with my editor who was extremely helpful in helping me like figure out the pacing then too.
- 26:40Ellie Alexander: Because, you know, she initially had some of the pages, was like, okay, this is great, but like, you know, they can't be in love on page one.
- 26:47Ellie Alexander: I'm like, oh, okay, right.
- 26:48Ellie Alexander: Yeah.
- 26:48Ellie Alexander: Shoot.
- 26:49Ellie Alexander: Okay, I gotta go back and and fix that.
- 26:51Ellie Alexander: So I don't even know what you asked, but no, that that's perfect.
- 26:57Tech Guy: I I will say I can't believe you didn't name Notting Hill in terms of in your list of uh.
- 27:05Tech Guy: Oh, we should rewatch that.
- 27:07Tech Guy: Yes.
- 27:07Ellie Alexander: Anything Jane Austen, I mean, all of these things, right?
- 27:10Ellie Alexander: That's all just in my mind from years and years of being a reader and lover of these stories as well.
- 27:17Tech Guy: Okay, well, I I hope we've given Darlings a a good look into the content of A Faults Remember.
- 27:24Tech Guy: For the sake of not giving away too much and and having any spoilers, let's move on to the physical book because there's some excitement there uh this time.
- 27:33Tech Guy: And we've teased it a little bit, but talk a little bit about what this book is going to bring that is going to be a first for Ellie Alexander First.
- 27:43Ellie Alexander: This is an Ellie Alexander First.
- 27:44Ellie Alexander: I mean, first of all, can we give a shout out for these covers?
- 27:47Ellie Alexander: I mean, Storm My Publishing House just knocks it out of the park every time with their cover design.
- 27:54Ellie Alexander: And I am in love, no pun intended, with this cover.
- 27:57Ellie Alexander: The cover designer just I think captured all of those fall vibes.
- 28:02Ellie Alexander: And it's always so fun because this is the first time, like the green grocer, like we've talked about, is just in my head.
- 28:07Ellie Alexander: So to see it then realized by somebody else on the cover, it's just like, oh my gosh, yes, that's exactly how I pictured it, which I had the same experience with tort back in the day too.
- 28:19Ellie Alexander: So not only is it going to be in trade paperback with this gorgeous cover, but it will have sprayed edges too, which I'm so excited about.
- 28:29Ellie Alexander: I love a sprayed edge.
- 28:31Tech Guy: Yeah, and we talked about sprayed edges before on Reality Writes when we were covering our favorite book, Trends.
- 28:37Tech Guy: So it was very exciting to see that a fall to remember is going to have sprayed edges.
- 28:42Tech Guy: And we've seen what the sprayed edges look like, and it is going to be all the fall vibes.
- 28:47Ellie Alexander: All the fall vibes.
- 28:48Ellie Alexander: Now, the truth of the matter is I should probably not be allowed to touch them because I'm sure I will ruin said sprayed edges because I'm terrible with the way that I treat my books.
- 28:59Ellie Alexander: But I'm excited for you, darlings, to get to add this to your shelves.
- 29:03Ellie Alexander: And I will say, anytime I'm in a bookstore, I do love the fact that this trend is so popular.
- 29:09Ellie Alexander: And you see like collections of fall reads, not only with those stunning covers, but with the sprayed edges.
- 29:15Ellie Alexander: And so uh Miranda and Jim are gonna be right there in the mix.
- 29:19Tech Guy: Definitely.
- 29:19Tech Guy: And I am excited that sprayed edges are spanning genres too, because uh I've seen them in sci-fi and fantasy as well.
- 29:27Tech Guy: And that uh it just a little bit of extra excitement for for the book.
- 29:32Tech Guy: So I like it.
- 29:33Ellie Alexander: It's like a little bonus.
- 29:34Ellie Alexander: Uh-huh.
- 29:34Ellie Alexander: Speaking of bonuses, one thing that I want to do is I want to, I know this is gonna be a shocker, darlings, but I want to make a recipe from the books because Miranda does, it's fall.
- 29:46Ellie Alexander: So she's serving some delicious soups and sandwiches at the green grocer because there's like a little deli eating counter and um just like a few little dining spaces spaces mixed in with all of the shelves of like imported chocolate and olive oil and wines.
- 30:02Ellie Alexander: And of course, there are not recipes in the book, but I feel like the release of this demands that I make one.
- 30:08Ellie Alexander: So stay tuned for that.
- 30:10Tech Guy: Okay, so that is some great information about a fall to remember.
- 30:13Tech Guy: Is there anything else you want to share with the darlings out there before we wrap up this episode of Reality Rights?
- 30:19Ellie Alexander: Well, I know sometimes getting our hands-on physical copies is not always easy these days.
- 30:26Ellie Alexander: And I am excited that most Walmart stores are going to be carrying this book with the sprayed edges.
- 30:35Ellie Alexander: So if you are on the hunt for one and can't find them and you've checked your local indie bookstore and what any other places, like wherever you can buy books, you can also potentially snag one there.
- 30:46Tech Guy: That's very cool.
- 30:47Tech Guy: All right.
- 30:48Tech Guy: So that is a Fall to Remember releasing officially on September 1st.
- 30:53Tech Guy: And it will be followed next year by book two.
- 30:56Tech Guy: And that about does it for this episode of Reality Rice.
- 31:00Tech Guy: If you have any questions about a fall to remember that we didn't cover in this episode, or you just want to know more about the book in general, please let us know in the comments or send us a message via the send us a message link in the show notes, and we would love to answer them for you.
- 31:17Tech Guy: So with that, until next time.
- 31:20Ellie Alexander: Yeah, and before I say until next time, I want to hear from you, darlings, in the comments.
- 31:24Ellie Alexander: Are you a lover of spice or no spice?
- 31:27Ellie Alexander: Do tell.
- 31:28Ellie Alexander: All right, until next time.
- 31:36Tech Guy: Until next time.