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Doug Marrone Show: December 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: What a playing thirty yard touchdown heading the black Book.
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Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show.
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Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Logherman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the
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Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron
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Speaker 1: Show starts right now. Welcome in to The Doug Moron Show,
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Speaker 1: presented by the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles,
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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Jeff Logerman, Head coach Doug Maron will be
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Speaker 1: along shortly. The Jags and the Chargers coming up in
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Speaker 1: week fourteen at t i A bank Field. It is
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Speaker 1: My Cause, My Cleats week. And if you're on Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot com and on the Jaguars social media pages, we
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Speaker 1: have Doug Maron's shoes on set. Jackson coach about about
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Speaker 1: to make his way into studio to join us, as
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Speaker 1: well the Jaguars of that four and eight record heading
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Speaker 1: coming back home to face the Los Angeles Chargers with
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Speaker 1: a four eight record as well Head coach Doug mar
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Speaker 1: Owne coming and joining us on set size fifteen or
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Speaker 1: you kids, how big are these shoes? Doug? What you were?
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Speaker 1: Yeah for a long time now you've you've stopped growing
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Speaker 1: your your feet have stopped growing, thank God. Alright, So
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Speaker 1: so tell us about your calls on your cleats. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's just so important. I think
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Speaker 1: you know, it really started from um, you know, my
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Speaker 1: wife Helen was assistant district attorney in Nashville and and
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Speaker 1: did a bunch of child sex abuse and so we've
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Speaker 1: always kind of been involved in that stuff. And so
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Speaker 1: when we came here to Jacksonville First Coast Child Protection Team,
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Speaker 1: you know is uh, you know, they do an unbelievable
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Speaker 1: job and they need to support so, um, it's something
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Speaker 1: that's you know, close to us. It's something that you know,
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Speaker 1: because I've always said before, you know, with children, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's our response ability as human beings to make sure
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Speaker 1: that you know, we're protecting them. They were protecting people
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Speaker 1: that can't protect themselves, and um, you know, they do
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Speaker 1: such a great job, and um, you know, we really
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Speaker 1: appreciate the work they do and you know, it's a
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Speaker 1: chance to do something good and and that's why I've
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Speaker 1: chosen to wear those shoes. So tell me, because like
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Speaker 1: last week, Leonard four Nette for the Salute Service Game,
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Speaker 1: had some really cool cleats going on. They were all
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Speaker 1: painted up for the Salute Service game. How do you
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Speaker 1: how do you go about getting the shoes that looked
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Speaker 1: like this? Do you do you? Does Nike do this?
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Speaker 1: Does somebody a local artist do this? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I go to the equipment room and I tell them, Hey, listen,
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Speaker 1: you guys kind of know my personality. You know what.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to make this thing crazy. You know. Um,
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Speaker 1: so let's let's make sure we get the message out.
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Speaker 1: But let's not being Yeah the way I understand that
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Speaker 1: there's some local artists that come in and do the
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Speaker 1: shoes for the play, and you know, I like for
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Speaker 1: Gardner Ministry, for example, the artists presented him to him.
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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, that looks great, let's do it. That's
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Speaker 1: kind of how some guys have ideas of what they want.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool because it's got got like the child
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Speaker 1: handprints on uh with the ribbon, and then it's got
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Speaker 1: the name first Ghost Child Protection Team. That's pretty cool stuff.
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Speaker 1: Abrey Jones was for a Wounded Warrior project and it
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Speaker 1: had the fighter jet mouth on the side of the
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Speaker 1: shoes and stuff. It's pretty pretty cool stuff. You see
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Speaker 1: it on the screen right now, if you're watching it
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Speaker 1: and appreciate the NFL, you know, giving everyone a platform
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Speaker 1: to be able to you know, to to support a
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Speaker 1: cause that that's important to them. They should do that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, for for so many years, we always we
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Speaker 1: used to call there was always a guy at every
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Speaker 1: game or two and it was we used to calling
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Speaker 1: the shoe police. And when when I was playing, and
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Speaker 1: I think they still have it to this day, and
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Speaker 1: when you were playing, that same thing, and they'd go
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Speaker 1: around and they'd have like a little clipboard and they
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Speaker 1: would essentially make notes on which player was in violation
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Speaker 1: of the equipment policy uniform policy. And then before the
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Speaker 1: game he would approach the coach of each team and say, hey, looks,
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Speaker 1: these are the guys that are not in compliance. They
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Speaker 1: have to get it fixed. And a lot of players
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Speaker 1: we're trying to customize certain things to maybe recognize a
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Speaker 1: mom who's fighting cancer or a family member who's fighting whatever.
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Speaker 1: And uh. And but the the in the league was
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Speaker 1: fighting guys for putting stuff on their shoes or on
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Speaker 1: their uniform. So when they came out with with this
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Speaker 1: to where it was my cost myke Cleaton, I thought
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Speaker 1: it was a great a great response or a great
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Speaker 1: answer to some of the things that the players were doing.
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Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. Alright, coach, let's get to business.
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Speaker 1: Your quarterback changed last week? How's Gardner responded this week?
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Speaker 1: How's Nick responded? And how has the team responded so far? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think you know, it's it's a tough business. I
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Speaker 1: think that you know, obviously Nick's disappointed. I'm disappointed that
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Speaker 1: we weren't able to do enough things around them, you know,
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Speaker 1: to you know, the protecting where it can perform. And um,
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously with Gardner gives us a little bit
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Speaker 1: more mobility, so I think he gives us a better opportunity, uh,
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Speaker 1: to win. I think you know the team, you know,
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Speaker 1: right now, it's it's a disappointing year. We understand that
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Speaker 1: we're going into this final quarter and you know, goal
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Speaker 1: is to win this quarter, and um, you know, everyone's
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Speaker 1: just trying to do the best job they can to
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Speaker 1: get this, uh you know, bad taste of disappointment out
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Speaker 1: of their mouth and and try to end this year
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Speaker 1: on a winning note. And you know, have something you know,
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Speaker 1: um good to feel about. Tell me about the the
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Speaker 1: extra period or the period that was was for Gardner
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Speaker 1: minshew And was it just for Gardner minshew or was
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Speaker 1: it for maybe players that aren't playing as much and
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Speaker 1: maybe needed in the future And Okay, let's have this
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Speaker 1: period for that. Yeah, I think it goes back to
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Speaker 1: my time in nineteen seven, you know, for you know,
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Speaker 1: when I was a player in for Miami. Um. You know,
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Speaker 1: I was with Miami and you know, I wanted to
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Speaker 1: you know, making the team and you know, running the
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Speaker 1: scout team, and and really I felt, you know, during
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Speaker 1: the whole course of the year, you know, not really
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Speaker 1: getting coach and you're running different schemes and you're running
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Speaker 1: different things, and you know, when I came back UM
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Speaker 1: for the mini camps the following year, I felt like, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, I was the same player. And I don't
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't fault the coaches, you know, they're
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Speaker 1: they're they're responsibility was getting the guys that were playing,
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Speaker 1: you know, on Sunday ready to play a game. But
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Speaker 1: I felt, you know, I felt like I didn't I
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Speaker 1: didn't know, I didn't know enough to get myself better.
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Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't I couldn't take myself where I
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Speaker 1: needed to go. So when I started to coach, I
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Speaker 1: felt that there's a point of development that you may lose,
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Speaker 1: you know, because of that. So give you example. So
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Speaker 1: when I went to New York and I was with
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Speaker 1: the gets, Um, I kept my offensive linemen out you know,
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Speaker 1: every you know, Wednesday and Thursday, and I would film, Uh.
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Speaker 1: I kept him out extra for about you know, a
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Speaker 1: half hour, so I would film it and then on
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Speaker 1: Friday we I would meet with him and watch it
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Speaker 1: and coach them and and you know, outside of you know,
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Speaker 1: the guys that I had to get ready to play
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. So we spent some extra time together and
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Speaker 1: we were able to develop uh Jonathan Goodwin who's played
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Speaker 1: for twelve or thirteen years. Uh. Brandon Moore was a
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Speaker 1: captain for the Jets. So we were you know, now
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Speaker 1: we did that with everyone. Now, some guys didn't develop,
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Speaker 1: and some guys did, and they gave him an opportunity.
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Speaker 1: And then New Orleans was the same thing, and we
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Speaker 1: kept you know, I kept those guys out there and
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Speaker 1: and we worked extra with them. And you know, from
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Speaker 1: from bush Rod to I mean, you can go on
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Speaker 1: and on about Zack Stree if all those guys, you know,
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Speaker 1: became you know, good football players and some didn't. And
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Speaker 1: then when I, you know, went to Syracuse, we we
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Speaker 1: worked with the freshman afterwards. And then when I went
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Speaker 1: to Buffalo, we did the same thing. So you know,
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Speaker 1: I tried to create a twenty minute window, thirty minute
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Speaker 1: window where there was this area of development that we
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Speaker 1: can get people better. So when Gardner was was you know,
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Speaker 1: put down for Nick to come in. You know, I
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Speaker 1: said to myself, Okay, here's a quarterback. We've have some
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Speaker 1: experience with him. Now here are some of the things
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Speaker 1: that he struggled with. Okay, let's take Thursday and Friday
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Speaker 1: and let's really work on somethings at the end that's
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Speaker 1: gonna keep him going and keep him better. And um,
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Speaker 1: that's just you know, a philosophy of you know, what
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Speaker 1: I've done for a long period of time, let's come
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Speaker 1: up Sunday four or five, kickoff time at t I A.
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Speaker 1: Bank Field, And when the Chargers come to town, that
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Speaker 1: means Philip Rivers comes to town. Sixteenth year in the
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Speaker 1: National Football League, And some of the stats over the
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Speaker 1: last few weeks, you know, he's throwing a bunch of picks.
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Speaker 1: He kind of got back on track last week, but
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Speaker 1: he's still Philip Rivers, Doug. I mean, this guy is
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Speaker 1: one of the best of all time. Yeah, I mean he's,
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Speaker 1: you know, ultimate competitor. Uh, you know, you know that
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Speaker 1: you can just see him on the field. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's not going to see a lot of things that
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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna be able to confuse him and
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Speaker 1: what the coverage is, um, and you know he can
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Speaker 1: he can deliver the football. I think that, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: you gotta kind of get him off of them. You
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Speaker 1: gotta kind of get him off the spot. And I
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Speaker 1: think when you do those things, I think that's where
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Speaker 1: those interceptions come in. You know, Um, you know he's
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Speaker 1: got fifteen of them, and he's got seventeen touchdown passes.
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Speaker 1: But you know he's got a lot of good skill
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Speaker 1: around him, you know, two good running backs and then
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Speaker 1: obviously a tight end into two good receivers, which would
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Speaker 1: be a great challenge for us. Yeah, the NFL's all
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Speaker 1: time passing yards lists goes like this, Breeze, Brady Manning,
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Speaker 1: far Marino, Philip Rivers. It's amazing. Wow. And uh, what's
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Speaker 1: what's amazing to me is that you got three of
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Speaker 1: them that are still one, two, three, Yeah, three of
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Speaker 1: them they're still active. It's crazy. But Philip Rivers, when
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Speaker 1: you when you talk about how fire he is, that's
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Speaker 1: probably at the end of the day when when you
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Speaker 1: reflect back, like Marino used to the arm I mean
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Speaker 1: just I mean like a cannon. I don't think anybody
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Speaker 1: threw it as hard and as accurate man that Far
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Speaker 1: If you kind of think of him as the guy
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Speaker 1: that does all these crazy things that are off schedule,
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Speaker 1: and he's out of the pocket and he's wild, and
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Speaker 1: here's a gun slinger. You know, with Manning, he's like
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Speaker 1: the robot, he's at Robo QB. And then you get
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Speaker 1: to Philip Rivers. You think of for me, I think
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Speaker 1: of this fiery competitor that is barking at the other
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Speaker 1: team from the sideline and from the field, and it's just, uh,
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Speaker 1: one of the ultimate competitors to ever play the game,
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Speaker 1: I think, So, I mean, you know, obviously I have
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Speaker 1: a lot of respect for him and playing him, you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously a couple of times, you know, you know in
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Speaker 1: my career. Um, and again, you know I know this
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Speaker 1: that you know, if he gets hot, you're you know,
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Speaker 1: he gets a good beat on you. You know he could,
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Speaker 1: he could, he can make you pay for it. So
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Speaker 1: you gotta keep him, you know, off schedule, you gotta
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Speaker 1: put him in tough situations. You gotta keep him off
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Speaker 1: the field. You know, there's some frustration all those quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: that you just mentioned, you know, the one common denominator
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Speaker 1: I think and having you know, some of those those
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Speaker 1: guys I know well or have played with or coached. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, when you keep them off the field, they
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Speaker 1: get very frustrated because they want to be on the field.
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Speaker 1: They want to throw the football, they want to win
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Speaker 1: the game, they want to score points. And you know,
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Speaker 1: that's one of the things that we've got to do
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Speaker 1: a good job of this week of being able to
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Speaker 1: stay on the field. And you know that starts with
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Speaker 1: not having any you know, penalties and when Philip Rivers
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Speaker 1: is on the field, the reality is also this is
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Speaker 1: that he's gonna have a birthday on Sunday. He's gonna
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Speaker 1: be thirty eight. He's not as mobile as he once was. Uh.
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Speaker 1: When he has a little bit of crowd around him,
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Speaker 1: sometimes he has a tendency to put his arms around
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Speaker 1: the ball and say that's it. Take the sack, you know.
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Speaker 1: So there's opportunities with Philip, yeah's you know, you have
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Speaker 1: those opportunities if you can cover them up, you know
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Speaker 1: from the standpoint of you know, schematically with their their
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Speaker 1: route progressions, and you know you can you can take
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Speaker 1: care of the first two, then obviously it's gonna you know,
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Speaker 1: increase the timing of of what he has to do.
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Speaker 1: And you know he can move around and within the
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Speaker 1: pocket a little bit. But you know, like you said, um,
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Speaker 1: you know he has he you have an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: either get him to throw off his back foot, which um,
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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons when you look
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Speaker 1: at the interceptions, you see him you know, throwing off
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Speaker 1: his back foot and the ball not you know, just
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Speaker 1: being delayed a little bit. And that's what you have
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Speaker 1: to do. You have to give give yourself a chance
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Speaker 1: that if he does release the football, you have an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to go get it. And then obviously if if
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Speaker 1: you can get real close to him, then you know
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Speaker 1: a try to get the ball away from his body.
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Speaker 1: But um, you know, he'll he'll, he will, he will
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Speaker 1: not try to, you know, turn the ball over. They
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Speaker 1: got two pretty good receivers, Mike Williams and Keenan Allen.
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Speaker 1: Mike Williams UH boy, first round pick couple of years
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Speaker 1: ago out of Clemson. He had a huge catch in
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Speaker 1: this past week's game against the Denver Broncos. Seems like
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Speaker 1: he's had a huge catch of forty plush yards or
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Speaker 1: more over the last three or four weeks. He had
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Speaker 1: a big one against the Broncos led to the score.
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Speaker 1: Is he the guy that you you you worry about
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Speaker 1: the explosive plays? Where is it? Keenan Allen kind of
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Speaker 1: the consummate pro that's just always making plays. I think
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Speaker 1: I think when you look at Mike Williams, you're looking
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Speaker 1: at I think he's got a high per catch average.
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Speaker 1: I think it's almost like twenty yards, so it's twenty
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Speaker 1: and a half yards, so you know, you're talking about
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Speaker 1: a guy it's a vertical threat. You're talking about a
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Speaker 1: guy that has good speed. You're talking about a guy
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Speaker 1: that has a really good catch radius. And he's your
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Speaker 1: fifty fifty guy. So you know, if if you're a
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Speaker 1: man or you know, let's say there's a there's an
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Speaker 1: area open his own and he's by there, he's running
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Speaker 1: deep that that's where the balls you know, goes, and
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Speaker 1: you know he's done a very good job of that.
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Speaker 1: I think when I look at Keenan Allen, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think of him as a really efficient route runner.
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Speaker 1: I mean he creates separation, might create separation by speed
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Speaker 1: and size, and Alan is a big guy, but he
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Speaker 1: creates separation by just being a great route runner. You know.
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Speaker 1: So he can stick his foot in the ground, he
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Speaker 1: can you know, tilt his head, he can move his
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Speaker 1: body and that's how he creates separation. And he can
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Speaker 1: get himself, you know, vertically down the field and create separations.
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Speaker 1: So you know, he's really dangerous too. So again, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think both those players plus now you put in
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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry, who is a body he can body you
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Speaker 1: up like kind of like how Gronkowski has done it
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Speaker 1: through the years. You know, you gotta watch your matchups
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Speaker 1: on him if you're a man. Plus now it gives Philip,
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Speaker 1: you know, the middle field triangle reads, which is difficult.
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Speaker 1: So um, you know, there's some good skill guys and
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do a good job. But I
17:35
Speaker 1: think it starts up front. I think you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: if you can get a rush and and get after him,
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Speaker 1: you know, like I always say, I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: you can take all those great skill players, put them
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Speaker 1: all down the field. But if the quarterback is not
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Speaker 1: going to be able to throw the football, you know
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Speaker 1: you're in good shape. Let's come back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: Jaguar's offense against this Chargers defense and pass rushers for
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Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Jeff Loghman, head coach, Doug Brow, the
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Speaker 1: Jags and the Chargers coming up this Uh you mentioned
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Speaker 1: earlier this week, Doug, but let's touch on it again.
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Speaker 1: The offensive line last week and overall the penalties for
20:39
Speaker 1: this Jags team last week, sixteen of them in the game,
20:42
Speaker 1: a lot of those on the offensive line, though, Um,
20:45
Speaker 1: this deep into a season, how do you recover from that?
20:48
Speaker 1: How do guys get better from that? And it's really
20:51
Speaker 1: just not doing the same thing twice right some of them.
20:54
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about it, and you know, like
20:57
Speaker 1: I said, during this year, we've we've made mistakes and
20:59
Speaker 1: we've gotten better at it, and then we come back
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Speaker 1: to it, and that you're never going to be successful
21:05
Speaker 1: when you're when you're making those mistakes. I know that,
21:07
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, Coach war Up and I we've talked
21:10
Speaker 1: about it and you know, talked to the players about it,
21:12
Speaker 1: and uh, nothing ever good comes from holding somebody. And
21:19
Speaker 1: I mean that to a point of you know, whether
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Speaker 1: than have a holding penalty. You know, I have a
21:28
Speaker 1: better chance of coming back from that than than anything else.
21:31
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, we we've got to get
21:34
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21:38
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21:41
Speaker 1: when I look at holding, and I've looked at it
21:44
Speaker 1: obviously for you know, my whole career, mostly as as
21:47
Speaker 1: a line coach, that the people at hold usually they're
21:51
Speaker 1: not putting themselves in good position. That's why they're holding.
21:53
Speaker 1: They're getting beat and you know, so you know, we've
21:57
Speaker 1: got to be able to move our feet. I think that,
21:59
Speaker 1: you know, for offensive line, I think it's gonna be interesting.
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Speaker 1: I think you know, last week, you know, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: we we we didn't do it as good of a job.
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Speaker 1: You know, we really didn't. So you know, how do
22:09
Speaker 1: they bounce back from it? How? You know, there's you
22:12
Speaker 1: know what, how are they going to step up this week?
22:14
Speaker 1: Because if we can't control the line of scrimmage, then
22:20
Speaker 1: it really hurts us with the opportunity to win games.
22:23
Speaker 1: And you got a great challenge in this week's game. Obviously,
22:28
Speaker 1: having played the position, I love watching the edge rushers
22:31
Speaker 1: in the in the league, even did as a player,
22:34
Speaker 1: and I still enjoy really watching some of the techniques
22:38
Speaker 1: and some of the traits of these guys in today's game.
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Speaker 1: And well, Joey Bossa might be technically with his hands
22:45
Speaker 1: and his feet one of the most efficient pass rushers
22:49
Speaker 1: that there is in the league. And Melvin Ingram is
22:51
Speaker 1: just so athletic that uh, I wouldn't even begin to
22:55
Speaker 1: know where to start to try to emulate what he does.
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Speaker 1: The boss is just so technical. Yeah, I think I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously he's you know, technical, and and you
23:05
Speaker 1: know he comes from that family. I played with his dad,
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Speaker 1: you know, played against his dad, then played with his dad,
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Speaker 1: you know, so he comes from a he started getting
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Speaker 1: taught like when he was in pre k Okay Joey
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Speaker 1: and Nick here we go. Here's I'm sure now, I
23:21
Speaker 1: mean that like I don't want to His dad was stout.
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Speaker 1: I mean it was hard to move, not anywhere near
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Speaker 1: athletic as you know, none his two sons. So I'm
23:30
Speaker 1: sure good football player and a good person and a
23:35
Speaker 1: good guy. But um, I think I think like you said,
23:37
Speaker 1: I think both is really technically sound. I think he
23:41
Speaker 1: uh has a real high motor, which you know you appreciate.
23:44
Speaker 1: And I really think having played against Ingram for you know,
23:47
Speaker 1: a couple of years now, he's probably playing at at
23:50
Speaker 1: the top of his game. And I think that, you know,
23:53
Speaker 1: he's really good on the edge. Um, but gosh, is
23:57
Speaker 1: he really doing a heck of a job inside when
23:59
Speaker 1: he's rushing on the guards. I want to say that
24:02
Speaker 1: South Carolina, wouldn't he like a a defensive tackle or
24:06
Speaker 1: something crazy. I want to say that he was. I
24:10
Speaker 1: mean he when when he when he moved to the NFL,
24:12
Speaker 1: then he became just outside linebacker, super athlete and all that.
24:16
Speaker 1: But I want to say at South Carolina he lined
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Speaker 1: up everywhere. And I remember watching the film on him going, man,
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Speaker 1: this guy is. He is going to be a great athlete.
24:23
Speaker 1: I don't know where they're gonna play him at, but
24:24
Speaker 1: where they play him at, he's gonna be a good
24:25
Speaker 1: football player. He was a linebacker at South Carolina, but
24:28
Speaker 1: he lined up to as he moved all over the place.
24:32
Speaker 1: He was a special, special athlete. The guy though, that
24:35
Speaker 1: you gotta I don't want to say a lot of
24:36
Speaker 1: history with, but a little bit of history with is
24:38
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis Sr. You recruited him when you were at
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Speaker 1: the univers Georgia. We talked about that on the show
24:45
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. Actually remember that. Yeah, I mean,
24:48
Speaker 1: this is a guy fifteenth year in the National Football League,
24:52
Speaker 1: great career, great career, and I've heard that as good
24:55
Speaker 1: of a football player he is. I don't know him personally,
24:57
Speaker 1: but I've heard he's as if it as if not
25:00
Speaker 1: a better of a man. Well, and uh, guy's been
25:04
Speaker 1: under has had three reconstructive neat procedures. I mean, so
25:08
Speaker 1: just to go show you to be able to overallcome
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Speaker 1: all of that and be the player that he is
25:12
Speaker 1: and and from what I understand, the man that he is,
25:14
Speaker 1: uh truly is one of the exceptional people and players
25:17
Speaker 1: in the league he is. I mean, I have a
25:20
Speaker 1: ton of respect for him, obviously, and you know, the
25:22
Speaker 1: job he's done, and we've we've got a challenge with
25:24
Speaker 1: him because you know, he's still playing at a very
25:27
Speaker 1: high level. Um. You know, obviously he's been a Pro
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Speaker 1: Bowl player, first team All Pro Man of the Year. UM.
25:34
Speaker 1: But again, he has really good instinct. Um. You know,
25:36
Speaker 1: he loves playing the game. I remember, you know, you
25:39
Speaker 1: look back and you think about players that you've recruited
25:42
Speaker 1: and you see him, you know, go on to either
25:44
Speaker 1: successful college careers or even some of them going on
25:47
Speaker 1: to successful pro couriers. You know. And the one thing
25:50
Speaker 1: you know with Thomas, you know that I remember when
25:52
Speaker 1: I first watched him, was you know how much he
25:57
Speaker 1: loved to play. You know, he was a quarterback free safety.
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Speaker 1: He was a quarterback safety and uh, you know, he
26:04
Speaker 1: just loved to play. And when he was on the field,
26:07
Speaker 1: it was where he was most comfortable, and it was
26:08
Speaker 1: like everything else outside of that he wasn't as comfortable.
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Speaker 1: So you know, you knew right away the love for
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Speaker 1: the game and the way his teammates gravitated to him.
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Speaker 1: And uh was he a running quarterback in high school.
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Speaker 1: He can run, he can throw. I mean, he was
26:21
Speaker 1: just he was just an athlete because we had the
26:23
Speaker 1: same situation like you said about Ingram and other guys
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Speaker 1: you know, UM. You know, when I first presented them
26:29
Speaker 1: in the recruiting meeting, it was like, you know, I
26:31
Speaker 1: think this guy can do a lot of things. I
26:33
Speaker 1: think he could be a running back if he gets bigger,
26:35
Speaker 1: because he was not uh. I mean, he was probably
26:37
Speaker 1: about a buck one ninety back then, but he was
26:41
Speaker 1: still tall. He was tall and thin, you know, but
26:43
Speaker 1: he can play. But the one thing about it that
26:45
Speaker 1: I always look at when I looked at guys that
26:49
Speaker 1: were in UM in high school was you know, he
26:52
Speaker 1: was tall and thin, but he was aggressive. He was physical.
26:58
Speaker 1: He was you know, he had that mentality. Now that
27:01
Speaker 1: I think that he would ever become. I thought maybe
27:04
Speaker 1: you'd be a safety or you know what I'm saying,
27:07
Speaker 1: or something to that nature. But you know, you talk
27:09
Speaker 1: about a toughness about him, and you know, so those
27:12
Speaker 1: type of players when you get in there and now
27:14
Speaker 1: I'm a you know, we're talking about the SEC where
27:17
Speaker 1: you usually recruit players. You know exactly what I'm like,
27:19
Speaker 1: Look this guy, he's gonna play somewhere. I don't know where,
27:24
Speaker 1: but you know he's gonna play. And then you know,
27:25
Speaker 1: I had, I had left and went to the University
27:28
Speaker 1: of Tennessee after Jim got released, and then Jim Donna
27:31
Speaker 1: and the head coach and then uh, they took over
27:33
Speaker 1: the recruiting. But you know it was you know it
27:35
Speaker 1: was him. Uh, the same kind of story with David Pollock.
27:39
Speaker 1: You know, we're recruiting him as a fullback, couldn't get
27:41
Speaker 1: him really approved as a defensive lineman. And then David
27:44
Speaker 1: Pollock goes in there, he's player of the Year for
27:46
Speaker 1: a couple of years in a row. And and that's
27:48
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I think a lot of times.
27:49
Speaker 1: And you know, when you're in college, you're recruiting these
27:52
Speaker 1: guys and you say, hey, they love football, that they hit,
27:54
Speaker 1: are they physical, that they do it, and you just
27:56
Speaker 1: recruit them and get them and you'll figure out where
27:58
Speaker 1: they go. Congratulations to Thomas Davis senior. He he and
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Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell are one of eight finalists for the Art
28:04
Speaker 1: Rooney Sportsmanship Award, which is pretty cool, which well does
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Speaker 1: a compliment for him and also for for Calais and
28:11
Speaker 1: did you two way in high school as a as
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Speaker 1: a football player, what was offensive line and that was
28:18
Speaker 1: the killer defensive lineman. Really, I thought I was gonna
28:24
Speaker 1: be a defensive lineman going to college until you know,
28:27
Speaker 1: a couple of schools recruit me as a defensive lineman.
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Speaker 1: Then I then then I you know, obviously I figured
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Speaker 1: out that Georgia Larry recruited me. And he's like, look,
28:36
Speaker 1: I I coached the line. I'm gonna tell you're not
28:38
Speaker 1: gonna play all those schools that tell you're gonna be
28:40
Speaker 1: the alignement, You're gonna be an offensive lineman. You know.
28:43
Speaker 1: Obviously my forty time you know, wasn't wasn't as as
28:47
Speaker 1: fast as as you can see now when I jog
28:49
Speaker 1: on the field. Uh well, it's just one thing about
28:53
Speaker 1: Tom Davis two that I think impress impresses me. You're
28:57
Speaker 1: talking about playing a position in the game, and that
29:00
Speaker 1: the game has undergone a lot of transition in the
29:03
Speaker 1: fifteen years that he's been in the league, because the
29:05
Speaker 1: game is now about speed, it's about linebackers playing in space,
29:10
Speaker 1: and most linebackers, the older that they get, they just
29:13
Speaker 1: they don't they can't do that. And he has been
29:16
Speaker 1: the linebacker has been able to play right through all
29:18
Speaker 1: of this kind of change in the league and the
29:20
Speaker 1: way it's played because he is a space player and
29:23
Speaker 1: he is super athletic. Yeah, and I think, you know,
29:25
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting and when you're when you're in college,
29:29
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that we looked at was, hey, listen,
29:31
Speaker 1: we want to take these corners. We want to get
29:33
Speaker 1: these big corners, and if they can't play corner and
29:35
Speaker 1: they're big, we're going to move in the safety. You know,
29:37
Speaker 1: these safeties that we have, you know, if they if
29:39
Speaker 1: they get too big and they can't play safety, we're
29:41
Speaker 1: gonna move in the linebacker. You know. So we had
29:44
Speaker 1: this progression of of how you wanted to you know, uh,
29:48
Speaker 1: get the personnel and how you wanted to go because
29:51
Speaker 1: the one thing you couldn't make a mistake on with
29:53
Speaker 1: someone that was small, you know. So I think, you know,
29:55
Speaker 1: when you look at Thomas Thomas with a free safety
29:58
Speaker 1: quarterback athletes space player, you know, can play all the
30:03
Speaker 1: teams and then obviously move from free safety down to
30:06
Speaker 1: the lineback, because even at Georgia was a hybrid position
30:09
Speaker 1: you know for him. So you know, he's a guy
30:12
Speaker 1: You're exactly right. They can play with space. But again
30:14
Speaker 1: it goes back to when I first saw him. You know,
30:16
Speaker 1: got it, never shied away from contact. They got it.
30:19
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30:22
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30:25
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30:29
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30:32
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30:34
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30:37
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30:39
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30:42
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30:45
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30:48
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30:50
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30:52
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30:55
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31:02
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34:52
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35:25
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35:29
Speaker 1: at Mellow Mushroom and Avondale will be and looking forward
35:32
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35:35
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35:41
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35:43
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35:45
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35:56
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Speaker 1: Chlais and Josh, that was gonna go very well for Brett.
36:03
Speaker 1: Let me, Uh Tony Boselli is with us from Thursday
36:07
Speaker 1: night football tonight, Tony, how are you, sir? What's up?
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Speaker 1: I'm good? But that doesn't sound very interesting to me
36:13
Speaker 1: having uh Bret Martineau be the offensive tackle. Um, it's
36:18
Speaker 1: not really fair. Well, you weren't you weren't available? Well
36:21
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Speaker 1: I would love to come. We're gonna wear are you out?
36:26
Speaker 1: But you know, since you're busy and so, we're gonna
36:32
Speaker 1: take advantage of your bad hips. Yeah, they're not bad anymore.
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Speaker 1: They're new and bad. Shoulder which one you're bad? I
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Speaker 1: to the big news obviously this week quarterback change. Gardner
36:48
Speaker 1: Minshew's coming back under center Tony and that's what Doug
36:52
Speaker 1: Moron feels is the best chance for them to win
36:55
Speaker 1: some football games here down the stretch. Do you agree? Yeah,
36:58
Speaker 1: we talked about it Monday and it's it's clear I
37:01
Speaker 1: actually said it before the game. Um, on Sunday in
37:05
Speaker 1: the pregame that that Gardner Minshew or I can give
37:08
Speaker 1: you a better chance because of his mobility, what he
37:11
Speaker 1: can do. I was hoping that Nick Foles would have
37:14
Speaker 1: a good game. He did not. Um, I don't fully
37:17
Speaker 1: agree with uh D Filippo about you know that everyone
37:24
Speaker 1: needed to do a better job for Nick Foles. Um
37:28
Speaker 1: Like because Gardner Mishew came in the game and it
37:30
Speaker 1: was a different field. Nothing changed. None the players, none
37:35
Speaker 1: the play calling, nothing changed except for the quarterback. And
37:39
Speaker 1: I'm not taking shots at Nick Foles, but it is
37:42
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37:46
Speaker 1: when you're the guy, when you're supposed to be the
37:48
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback and you don't perform, there's gonna be criticism,
37:51
Speaker 1: just like you're gonna get all the adolation if it
37:53
Speaker 1: goes well. So, UM, it doesn't surprise me at all.
37:55
Speaker 1: I think it's the right move and I think that
37:57
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew will be the starting quarterback for the rest
37:59
Speaker 1: of the year. You should be. I mean, once you
38:02
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38:05
Speaker 1: you can't go back. I mean it is what it is.
38:07
Speaker 1: You let you let menshoo finished the year out and
38:11
Speaker 1: uh and hopefully he can lead this team to some victories.
38:14
Speaker 1: And you know, so maybe you find a hidden gem.
38:17
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I'll sad in the sixth round pick
38:19
Speaker 1: is you're I don't want to say Tom Brady because
38:22
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that's the greatest of all time, but
38:24
Speaker 1: I mean something of that nature where you're like, wow,
38:26
Speaker 1: we got a guy. What's fascinating to think about is
38:29
Speaker 1: what would have happened if Nick would not have been
38:33
Speaker 1: hurt Week one? Would he have played well? Or would
38:37
Speaker 1: there have been a point earlier where he didn't? How?
38:39
Speaker 1: How do you know? You know that's you're you're asking,
38:44
Speaker 1: You're asking an unanswerable question because at that point it's
38:48
Speaker 1: a dumb question. Thank you. I appreciate that. On that note,
38:51
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41:41
Speaker 1: without Miles Jack the rest of the year. Placed on
41:45
Speaker 1: injured reserve today, Tony, you missed last week's game, he'll
41:49
Speaker 1: miss the rest of the season. And we were talking
41:52
Speaker 1: on another show earlier logs about his season so far. Tony, Um,
41:56
Speaker 1: after signing that contract, it wasn't quite the season everybody
41:59
Speaker 1: expected from Miles Jack. I think that's fair, and I think, no,
42:03
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42:06
Speaker 1: You want more popular guys. He's a good guy. Bottom line,
42:09
Speaker 1: isn't a very good year. And I think you can
42:12
Speaker 1: encamp kind of encapsule that with this next statement. I
42:17
Speaker 1: didn't see a drop off when Donald Payne was playing
42:19
Speaker 1: Michael and Becker better. And anytime you or without your
42:27
Speaker 1: high paid, supposed to be leader, star middle linebacker because
42:31
Speaker 1: of injury and a guy who was literally signed about
42:34
Speaker 1: a week before undrafted free agent comes in and performs
42:40
Speaker 1: at equal to higher level, it's not that's not worth,
42:45
Speaker 1: that's not that's not the message you want to send
42:47
Speaker 1: and and so it's not been a great year. Um.
42:50
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things to go into
42:51
Speaker 1: that that I'm sure we'll talk about during the offseason,
42:54
Speaker 1: but right now he's no longer available, and it's gonna
42:57
Speaker 1: be Donald Paine's uh uh job the rest of the way.
43:00
Speaker 1: And and with that, they suren't very big linebacker, Jeff.
43:05
Speaker 1: You look at that tape and you look at him
43:06
Speaker 1: and Donald Payne and uh the rookie uh Quincy Williams
43:10
Speaker 1: out there. They are just not very big at that
43:12
Speaker 1: spot right now. No give Donald pinn credit though, thirteen tackles, sack,
43:17
Speaker 1: tackle for loss, good game, but they're not big. And
43:21
Speaker 1: some of those tackles that Donald Payne makes, he's kind
43:23
Speaker 1: of getting dragged a little bit. And Uh. One thing
43:27
Speaker 1: I'm kind of concerned about going forward is Miles Jack.
43:31
Speaker 1: The knee that he injured was the right knee, and
43:36
Speaker 1: this right knee was the one that he had issues
43:39
Speaker 1: with coming out of college. I'm not gonna speculate, but
43:42
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Hey, just a little bit of a
43:44
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43:48
Speaker 1: since he had this issue with a right knee coming
43:51
Speaker 1: out of college, which was the one that supposedly dropped
43:53
Speaker 1: down his draft stock, is that a problem with this
43:58
Speaker 1: late in the Yeah, it's a it's a question. We're
44:03
Speaker 1: talking to Darth Vader and I don't know what happened.
44:05
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44:10
Speaker 1: What was that in the world. I thought you had
44:14
Speaker 1: something to say about Miles Jack's knee right there to
44:17
Speaker 1: there's literally nowhere to go, boy, because when I walk outside,
44:23
Speaker 1: if you know where the uh where the booth is,
44:26
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44:30
Speaker 1: concerned to listen to this renditions want to stand and
44:34
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44:40
Speaker 1: They're practicing, by the way, that's right. The point is,
44:43
Speaker 1: though Tony's got this danial anthem is really loud, keep
44:54
Speaker 1: on talking. Yeah, final point here about Miles be fool,
44:57
Speaker 1: we get a break here all this Nie stuff and
44:59
Speaker 1: every think it's going on. He's on I R. But
45:01
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45:04
Speaker 1: this team for a long time to come. Yeah, I
45:06
Speaker 1: don't I don't know the parameters of the contract. I
45:10
Speaker 1: haven't seen what the guaranteed money is. I know the
45:12
Speaker 1: guaranteed money was reported to reportedly thirty three million, so
45:17
Speaker 1: typically on like a thirty three million dollar guarantee you're
45:19
Speaker 1: talking about the he's on your team for the next
45:22
Speaker 1: two maybe three years, regardless of his performance, so you know,
45:28
Speaker 1: but uh, I don't know. That's uh. I'm not Tim
45:32
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45:36
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45:41
Speaker 1: And here here's my hope that next year Miles jack
45:44
Speaker 1: comes back. He's healthy, he's playing like he's capable of playing.
45:49
Speaker 1: That's what you hope, and that he he plays to
45:52
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45:55
Speaker 1: That would be the great answer. And I think, Jeff,
45:58
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46:04
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46:07
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46:10
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46:12
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46:17
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46:19
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Speaker 1: at so drew Field, Chicago for Thursday Night Football. Before
50:03
Speaker 1: we get to that game, though, Tony Jaguars offensive line
50:06
Speaker 1: play last week. The Jackson as a team had six
50:09
Speaker 1: team penalties, a bunch of those on the offensive line,
50:12
Speaker 1: some holdings, some false starts. Um, this was not a
50:15
Speaker 1: good performance, not only in that department, just all around
50:18
Speaker 1: against the pass rushers for Tampa Bay either well, I
50:21
Speaker 1: mean they got completely dominated from you know, every aspect
50:25
Speaker 1: of it. And if you look at it, didn't really
50:27
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50:30
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50:33
Speaker 1: zone game, it was not very good. The past protection
50:36
Speaker 1: was atrocious. You mentioned the penalties, Um, they were very
50:40
Speaker 1: good and the tackles were the Uh. I think they
50:44
Speaker 1: were the worst performers of the group. Uh. You know,
50:48
Speaker 1: Joan Taylor's worst day as a rookie. I think he's
50:52
Speaker 1: a very good player. Cam Robinson was not very good either,
50:57
Speaker 1: and and that's on you know, you look at that
50:59
Speaker 1: performance and you turn around the corn, you turn around,
51:02
Speaker 1: what's coming up? You got Joey Boston and Melvin Ingram
51:05
Speaker 1: coming to town, and these are the these will be
51:07
Speaker 1: the two best pass rushers they have faced since they
51:10
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51:14
Speaker 1: And these guys are different in the sense of you
51:17
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51:20
Speaker 1: don't think. I think it's in a really tough matchup
51:23
Speaker 1: for Cam Robinson, and you've got a speed guy who's elusive,
51:28
Speaker 1: good inside moving Ingram working against Taylor. So I think
51:31
Speaker 1: it's a real tough matchup for the Jaguars. And I
51:33
Speaker 1: imagine that d Flippo and uh George Warhopp are spending
51:38
Speaker 1: a lot of time together because you better chip those
51:40
Speaker 1: two guys, because I don't think especially can. I don't
51:43
Speaker 1: think Cam can block Boasted one on one. I don't
51:47
Speaker 1: think you can. I don't think either one of them
51:48
Speaker 1: kim block Boasta one on one. I think Taylor has
51:52
Speaker 1: a chance. Jeff Taylor got in trouble last week, and
51:57
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that he is because he turned early. He
51:59
Speaker 1: had some out for work. He has not been doing that.
52:02
Speaker 1: That's what it was his issue. So if he cleans
52:04
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52:07
Speaker 1: up than I do with Cam because camp footwork continues
52:10
Speaker 1: to be a major issue, continues to drop in the
52:12
Speaker 1: bucket and continued to turn the shoulders early. Um and uh,
52:16
Speaker 1: boats that will really exposing what he does. That tough,
52:19
Speaker 1: tough matchup and these and these guys. And here's the thing,
52:22
Speaker 1: both both tackles will see both guys. They they flip flow,
52:26
Speaker 1: you know, because both is kind of the strong side
52:28
Speaker 1: in and then Ingram's kind of the weak side and
52:32
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna see him both. And uh, it
52:36
Speaker 1: would help though running the football would help well, yeah,
52:39
Speaker 1: and then and then having a quarterback that has some
52:41
Speaker 1: mobility and help and some ability to move in the pocket, etcetera.
52:45
Speaker 1: And look, Tony, I said this earlier in the week,
52:48
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. But nick Foles didn't
52:51
Speaker 1: help the tackles out much in his past game either.
52:54
Speaker 1: That one sack that was given up over Jowan Taylor,
52:58
Speaker 1: and that was by Uhs Nassa. Nick Foles got to
53:03
Speaker 1: protect the ball. He saw Nassa coming. The ball was
53:06
Speaker 1: held onto for a while. The other one that was
53:10
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53:12
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53:15
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53:18
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53:20
Speaker 1: a little bit nine yards. There is a pass rusher Tony.
53:23
Speaker 1: I take nine yards for my target every time. Um yeah,
53:27
Speaker 1: I mean Nick could have been better, but then tackle
53:29
Speaker 1: has been playing better. But I think it's on both.
53:32
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to put it all on
53:33
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53:37
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53:42
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53:46
Speaker 1: what I actually say, because guys, the credits were sacks.
53:47
Speaker 1: They don't they's clean up, they didn't win, they'd be
53:50
Speaker 1: any great And then guys don't get credit. Would they
53:53
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53:56
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53:59
Speaker 1: And the problem with that game is not only were
54:02
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54:05
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54:09
Speaker 1: pressure the quarterback constantly even when they weren't getting there.
54:12
Speaker 1: And that's why I put it so much on them.
54:14
Speaker 1: And that's what we're so worrisome about. It's not the
54:16
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54:20
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54:23
Speaker 1: he would be a great player, Jeff, did he beat anybody? No,
54:27
Speaker 1: it was a coverage sack, clean up sack and due
54:30
Speaker 1: to the two other guys, right, And that happens. And
54:33
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54:36
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54:39
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54:41
Speaker 1: So the concerned with me last week it was it
54:43
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Speaker 1: to Doug Marrone Show Final Moments. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logerman.
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Speaker 1: Bears Dallas Cowboys six and six. The Bears at six
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Speaker 1: and six. Soh you got tonight, Tony. It's a crazy game.
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Speaker 1: Get ready for this game. The Dallas Cowboys have so
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Speaker 1: much talent. There number one an offense, their number eight
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Speaker 1: in defense. I believe it is their number one third
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Speaker 1: down offense number being third down defense. They sacked, they
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Speaker 1: and their six and six and they have yet to
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Speaker 1: be they have yet to be the team that currently
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Speaker 1: has a winning record. I mean it's unreal. I mean
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Speaker 1: it makes zero sense why they're not a better football
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Speaker 1: team yet you don't. They've struggled last couple of weeks,
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Speaker 1: and uh they're coming and played in Chicago, and the
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Speaker 1: Bears have one too straight and rabisky and hasn't looked great,
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Speaker 1: but he's looked better. And uh, they have a really
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Speaker 1: good defense in Chicago. So with all that said, I
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Speaker 1: have no idea. All right, I'm taking taking a Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: be different, Tony, we'll talk to you. Have a good
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Speaker 1: call tonight, Tony Selly Prior of the Jaguars, Jeff Logaman,
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