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The Third Lorelai is Here! (S1 E18, “The Third Lorelai”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all In. I Am all In with Scott
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  Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody, hey
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All In
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  Speaker 1: Podcast from our Heart Radio and one eleven Productions. And man,
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  Speaker 1: we got a barn Burner and Norman tonight, I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you with this episode, the third Laurela Marion Ross making
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  Speaker 1: I believe, her debut in the series, and what an
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  Speaker 1: auspicious debut it was. Good. Lord, have you ever seen
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  Speaker 1: Emily Gilmore So let me say for tootst to borrow
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  Speaker 1: a word, perfect word. I mean, just just losing her
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  Speaker 1: mind that this woman was visiting from London, that Richard
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  Speaker 1: was so happy about it, and my god, she was
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  Speaker 1: just not She was out of her element. She was
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  Speaker 1: gonna her home was being invaded by this woman. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: they don't get along. And it was one of the
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  Speaker 1: funniest episodes. Those exchanges between between Marion Ross and and
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Bishop were classic and some of the best laughs
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  Speaker 1: I've had in the whole thing. And there's you know,
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff going on. You've got Tristan and
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  Speaker 1: and Rory you know, talking a little bit, and Paris
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  Speaker 1: getting set up with Tristan and and my god, there
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  Speaker 1: was there was a lot of a lot of intrigue
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  Speaker 1: here Laurela getting offered a boatload of money and then
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  Speaker 1: uh from from tricks from from the third Laurelai and
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  Speaker 1: then it all blows up in her face, that the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing, Emily just but you know, I think Emily
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  Speaker 1: did have a point. I think Emily was concerned that
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  Speaker 1: obviously she was gonna lose control, was going to affect
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  Speaker 1: the nature relationship, it was gonna affect their ability to
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  Speaker 1: guide Rory onto Harvard or onto Yale. And Trixie wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get her to go to Yale, but Lemily wants
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  Speaker 1: to her to go to Harvard Um. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of what we're dealing with this in that episode.
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  Speaker 1: But we've never seen Emily, you know, on the hot
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  Speaker 1: seat like this, I mean, just so out of her
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  Speaker 1: element in her own home. And that woman what a presence?
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  Speaker 1: I mean is that cheese? Do you want me to
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  Speaker 1: eat that cheese? Am I supposed to eat that cheese?
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  Speaker 1: I mean? How do you even deal to woman? And
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  Speaker 1: and then she's like, am I supposed to eat these
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  Speaker 1: spice nuts? Out of my hand? Wait? Riley. Should you
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  Speaker 1: should we give Riley a chance to do the tricks voice?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, said Riley. T We teet it
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  Speaker 1: up for you. Let's see what you can do. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see what you get there with the voice. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: because you're you know, you're the impressionist and the crew
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  Speaker 1: here go ahead. Yeah, she's so good. You far exceeded
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  Speaker 1: expectations with the muppet thing. Let's go. Let's see if
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  Speaker 1: you can do Marion Ross this tricks? Go ahead? Should
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  Speaker 1: I eat spice nuts out of my hands? What? Horrible?
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  Speaker 1: That's not gonna Scott did it way better? Going to work? What?
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  Speaker 1: What was that? A little German? I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: put an English accident on there. She's fancy, she talks, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she talks fancy. Yeah, don't bring my work. Let's see
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  Speaker 1: that's where that's right in your wheelhouse right there. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we should stick with cartoon characters or muppet characters for Riley,
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  Speaker 1: because that's where you live. One more try before we
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  Speaker 1: give up on you. One more shot at maryon Ross.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead? Do I eat these spice nuts out of
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  Speaker 1: my hands? The he was that? What is happening makes sense?
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  Speaker 1: Makes no sense? What you just got you kind of
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  Speaker 1: nailed it is that I can't. I can't do them
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  Speaker 1: sort of you know, loose impressions. I can't nail people's voice,
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  Speaker 1: but I can do I can do different accents. Should
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  Speaker 1: I eat these nuts out of my hand? And sky?
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  Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do? Oh? My god? I
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  Speaker 1: mean the iconic Marion Ross. Do you remember her being around?
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't in this episode. I know, but I wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: There must have been around. No, No, on days, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not working, I'm not hanging around the set. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: showing off the mountains somewhere skiing. I'm like celebrating having
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days off in a row. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the only episode that I wasn't in
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  Speaker 1: didn't work and people are like, what are you doing here? Dude?
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  Speaker 1: Just like yeah, they would be, it's like why are
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  Speaker 1: you here? What do you do? What you're here doing?
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  Speaker 1: Pr because no, that didn't includes you in that, so
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  Speaker 1: why are you here? That was pretty iconic though, because
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  Speaker 1: I noticed she got special guest star status. She was
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  Speaker 1: a special guest and I mean she is Mrs kind Am.
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  Speaker 1: It's like even this many years later, I mean, Happy
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  Speaker 1: Days was in the seventies and this so that's what
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  Speaker 1: fifty years And to me, she's just immediately, oh that's
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  Speaker 1: MRS's Mrs c. She's got those classical chops, she's got
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  Speaker 1: you know, that Shakespeare coming out of her, and she's
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  Speaker 1: just you know, laying down some serious attitude on how
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  Speaker 1: how can anybody make Emily look vulnerable or even sympathetic? Right?
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  Speaker 1: And great point and and Marian did it like in spades,
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  Speaker 1: because didn't you all kind of feel for her? Poor
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  Speaker 1: Emily just getting like just ripped apart, pillar to post
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  Speaker 1: and everything. She came out of her mouth right from
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  Speaker 1: the moment Richard reveals she's coming, you see Emily like,
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  Speaker 1: oh God, and then the down to the basement to
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  Speaker 1: get all the crap that she's given them to put
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  Speaker 1: all over. I mean, immediately you're like, oh wow, she
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  Speaker 1: does not like this, Like, why does she all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden care so much. She's Emily Gilmore, she's married
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  Speaker 1: to Richard Gilmore. Why on earth is she so fututst
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  Speaker 1: here's another word, fututt about Marian coming to town. Why
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  Speaker 1: does she care so much? Because she loves Richard and
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  Speaker 1: Richard worships her. What this is a woman who's in
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  Speaker 1: her late sixties right in the show, she's in her
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  Speaker 1: late sixties, you have right at that point in her life,
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  Speaker 1: at her station in life with her husband of you know,
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  Speaker 1: fifty years, what have you? Why does she give a
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  Speaker 1: rats you know what about what is mother thinks? And
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  Speaker 1: to the point where she's freaking out. I want I
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  Speaker 1: want somebody to give me an answer. Why does she
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  Speaker 1: care so much that she's so freaked out mother in laws?
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  Speaker 1: But why at her age is she still but is
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  Speaker 1: she still seeking approval to the point where she feels
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  Speaker 1: she's not going to get it. So she's nervous and
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  Speaker 1: she's agitated and she doesn't want the the stress. Why
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  Speaker 1: can't she just be herself? Mother in laws? What control? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so the question is what controlled does Marion Ross have
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  Speaker 1: over Richard and Emily's marriage? What does Emily have to
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  Speaker 1: gain from? And I hate to even go here, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean it might answer help answer the question, um,
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  Speaker 1: what does Emily have to gain from the demise of
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  Speaker 1: the third Laurel life? Would will Richard be getting a
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  Speaker 1: boatload of money that you know that Emily is afraid
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  Speaker 1: she's going to miss out on if Richard, who so
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  Speaker 1: you know, controlled by his own mother, uh, decides to
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  Speaker 1: divorce her. So, I mean, what does she say. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't think it's money. I think
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  Speaker 1: Emily wants her mother in law to like her. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: wants their mother in law to like them, especially when
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  Speaker 1: their husband has that close bond. But she's in her
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  Speaker 1: late sixties, she's only what does she should find sixty yet?
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  Speaker 1: But it's out of character for Emily. Why does she
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  Speaker 1: give a damn mother in law? Why can't she stand
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  Speaker 1: up to her and say, you know, because you can?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, what how do you How well do
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  Speaker 1: you get along with your mother in law? Talk about it?
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  Speaker 1: Mother in laws are stressful that I get along very
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  Speaker 1: well with my mother in law. She's a very sweet woman.
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  Speaker 1: Well you're you're lucky because the tricks isn't sweet. So
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  Speaker 1: Emily has that stress and pressure and Richard is a
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  Speaker 1: mama's boy. But I've okay, So I've been in situations
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  Speaker 1: like this where you know you're a certain age and
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  Speaker 1: you just you don't give it damn. So I kind
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  Speaker 1: of give it damn if you like me or not.
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  Speaker 1: So you just you know, you the question is why
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  Speaker 1: is Emily who is so comfortable inside her own skin
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  Speaker 1: and so herself, right, I mean that's Emily full bore
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  Speaker 1: all the time what you're seeing, and now all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden she's melting down because it's, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: her late sixties. Then you know Tricks is coming to town,
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  Speaker 1: and who cares? Now if she was a younger woman,
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  Speaker 1: If she was a younger woman, I can, and she
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  Speaker 1: could the way she sort of Emily wears the pants
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  Speaker 1: in that family, all of a sudden she's not wearing
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  Speaker 1: the pants anymore, right, right, No, you're making excellence. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: needs to explain this to me. I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: get it. I don't think you. I think you're summing
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  Speaker 1: it up perfectly, though you're analyzing it perfectly. Emily, who's
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  Speaker 1: tough and you know, controls everything. Now there's somebody that
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  Speaker 1: has superiority over her and she's freaking out. And we
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  Speaker 1: see this play out as we'll talk to about the money.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's Emily uh worried about missing out
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  Speaker 1: on a on a on a will, a piece of
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  Speaker 1: her fortune or whatever it is, because it does isn't
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  Speaker 1: seem like she's she's that well off. If she's only gonna,
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  Speaker 1: you know, give Rory a hundred thousand dollars, two hundred
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  Speaker 1: quarter million dollars, not that much money. It's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money, but it's not that much money for for
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  Speaker 1: people at that level, you know. And if you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: take care of your granddaughter and you're worth a boatload,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna do better than two hundred fifty dollars. Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. It's not the She came all the way.
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  Speaker 1: She came all the way from New York, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: all the way from London to Hartford to set up
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  Speaker 1: a trust, and I mean, I mean that was her
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  Speaker 1: purpose of coming. So anyway, I don't get it. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: get why Emily is she's losing her mind and why
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  Speaker 1: you're Emily Gilmore. I'm gonna shut up now. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot to break down, because the money brings power and control,
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  Speaker 1: and if if Lore like gives Rory that money, Emily
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  Speaker 1: loses that power of the Friday night dinner. But she's
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  Speaker 1: not anticipating that. She was freaked out that Tricks was
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  Speaker 1: coming before she knew about true You're right, that's a
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  Speaker 1: great point. So why is she so damn freaked out?
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  Speaker 1: It's a mother in law thing. And I think they
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  Speaker 1: both want to be number one. They want both want
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  Speaker 1: to be number one in Richard's life. And he loves
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  Speaker 1: his mom, but he also loves Emily, and they both
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  Speaker 1: want to be the number one spot. What a weird dynamic,
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  Speaker 1: What a very strange dynamic. My god, I have experience
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  Speaker 1: with this dynamic. I've seen this dynamic before. It's very
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  Speaker 1: odd and common when a mother when when when a
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  Speaker 1: mother holds sway over a son, even you know, when
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  Speaker 1: her son is in his fifties and sixties. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's just very weird. Um, And at a certain level,
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  Speaker 1: it's endearing, right, it's kind of sweet. But Jesus to
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  Speaker 1: rule over uh, you know, maybe I think she maybe
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  Speaker 1: sees it as her responsibility as the matriarch um in
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  Speaker 1: this sort of dynasty she has in her about the
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  Speaker 1: guild works or something um. But you know, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: just needed a little more background on tricks. You know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe if they built her up a little more into
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  Speaker 1: being this. You know, she's a billionaire, she's one of
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  Speaker 1: the most influential people in the world. You know, she
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  Speaker 1: can ruin your life, she can make your life miserable.
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  Speaker 1: If she doesn't like it this kind of a thing,
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  Speaker 1: then I can see Emily being nervous. Right, So we
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  Speaker 1: have to please this woman, not because of this way
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  Speaker 1: she holds over Richard, but she's a very powerful person.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not getting that from what I'm saying, But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that's just the question I have to ask. And I
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  Speaker 1: think we could use a little muppet, a little muppet
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  Speaker 1: in the discussion. How about a little muppet clip? Don't
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  Speaker 1: bring on my current word? I think I've ever heard
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  Speaker 1: you know what I want to do, Riley, I swear
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  Speaker 1: to God, I want to put that on my next album.
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  Speaker 1: I want to put that clip on my next record.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be either at the very beginning of
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  Speaker 1: it or at the very end. It's like at the
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  Speaker 1: end of some Beatles songs. In the White Album, John
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  Speaker 1: Lennon screams out, I got blisters on my fingers. That
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  Speaker 1: could be my I got blisters on my fingers onto
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  Speaker 1: my next record. Okay, promise me, promise me, you'll let
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  Speaker 1: me use that clip. Don't bring on my current word.
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  Speaker 1: I'm mortified and honored all at the same time, that's
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  Speaker 1: the most brilliant thing I've ever heard. Oh man, man,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting down with that in my impression, and they're
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  Speaker 1: just getting down. So anyway, you know, I'm gonna calm
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  Speaker 1: down a little bit. I'm gonna stop asking question because
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  Speaker 1: I just want to go along and be a shape
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  Speaker 1: um Riley, why don't you bring us in With the
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  Speaker 1: synopsis of the episode of The Third Laurel. This is
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  Speaker 1: episode eighteen the Third Lorelie air date March two. One.
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  Speaker 1: Laurels paternal grandmother arrives from England and stresses Emily out
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  Speaker 1: in a big way. Everybody. Uh well, that was quite
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  Speaker 1: a discussion anyway, So listen, we gotta take a little break.
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  Speaker 1: But guess who's coming up. The one and only Third
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  Speaker 1: Laureli herself, her own self in the flesh, Marion Ross
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  Speaker 1: coming to you from her tower on high, her castle,
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  Speaker 1: her perchase, her lofty elevated space. The one and only
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  Speaker 1: Marion Ross is coming to visit us here at our little,
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  Speaker 1: humble little show. And we're very, very excited. So let's
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  Speaker 1: take a little break and we'll be right back with
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  Speaker 1: we're back and we're gonna talk to Marion Ross. I
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  Speaker 1: think she's waiting in the green room with all of
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  Speaker 1: them and all of the French soda surrounding her, and
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  Speaker 1: French products and high British tea, and you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: all sorts of things. There's tombs, there's leather tomes, leather
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  Speaker 1: tomes with leather bindings from old, old first folios. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: now let's bring her in. Um, we're gonna We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk to Marion Ross in a second. I'm very excited
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  Speaker 1: about it. I want to know why, you know. What
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  Speaker 1: I want to know most first and foremost is why, Richard.
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  Speaker 1: And I hate to say this, and I know it's
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna get edited out. But why is he acting
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  Speaker 1: like such a little you know, because it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: like if if if if my and my if my
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  Speaker 1: wife is getting what for from my mom, no matter
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  Speaker 1: how much I'm obsessed with my own mommy, At a
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  Speaker 1: certain point, I'm gonna say, you know, I mean, Richard
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  Speaker 1: didn't even give us a mother. Don't talk to Emily
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  Speaker 1: that way. I mean, you know what I mean. There
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  Speaker 1: was none of that. There was nothing. He was just
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  Speaker 1: like smiling the whole time, you know. So I saw
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  Speaker 1: him as a little kid, like on his little on
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  Speaker 1: his little bicycles, beaming up with his mother. You know.
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  Speaker 1: The the guy at the corner store says, your son
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  Speaker 1: came in here and destroyed my entire candy display, and
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  Speaker 1: I want you I want the money now. And then
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  Speaker 1: Marion Ross is a younger woman going, how dare you
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  Speaker 1: raise your voice to make it out of this house
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  Speaker 1: before I have you thrown out? And Richard just sitting
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  Speaker 1: there and blowing all these bubbles, just smiling at the
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  Speaker 1: guy sitting there going yeah, ye accurate. But why why
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  Speaker 1: why is mama's boy he's a mama's boy. Why is
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  Speaker 1: he all of us? It's like he's married to his
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  Speaker 1: mother and like, yeah, let's just you know Mom's tricks
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  Speaker 1: is having a good time with Emily, like being a
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  Speaker 1: total heel to her anything. Yeah, I mean, come on, man,
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  Speaker 1: no wonder Emily is so angry and uptight. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be around that either, because it's
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  Speaker 1: not just she's got to deal with She's she's gonna
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  Speaker 1: deal with third Laurel. I, she's gotta deal with her
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  Speaker 1: husband act like a jackass. You know. It's like you
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  Speaker 1: nailed that. That is spot on. I'm just looking. This
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  Speaker 1: is just what I see. Hate me if you all
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  Speaker 1: you want, you know, I'm I'm not trying to tear
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  Speaker 1: apart the show. I just logically, it makes no damn
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  Speaker 1: sense to me. See that. That's the only part I disagree.
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  Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense to me. Mama's boy, she's got
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  Speaker 1: mother in law stress. It literally seems just exactly how
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  Speaker 1: you would think it would go. So Emily is hanging
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  Speaker 1: on by a thread. No, and she's married to some weak,
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  Speaker 1: need whipped mama's boy, right, and she's just hanging in
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  Speaker 1: there for the money, right. I think she's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I can't blow this. I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: has to do with the money. I think she just
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  Speaker 1: wants the approval from Tricks. She wants Tricks to like her.
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  Speaker 1: That's why she's running around getting spice nuts and putting
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  Speaker 1: that coat rack out, and the weird all the weird
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  Speaker 1: gifts and the rug and the carrying stuff up and
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  Speaker 1: down into Ah, just helicoptering like I want this woman
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  Speaker 1: to like me. If my grandmother, if my father's mother
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  Speaker 1: had treated my mother that way and talked to her
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  Speaker 1: that way about like, you know, we're not having desert.
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  Speaker 1: I've visited villages in Cambodia where I didn't have dessert either,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, all these great lines and
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  Speaker 1: there's no response. My mother would have punched her in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the teeth. Here's what we haven't talked about yet. Emily
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: puts up with it all until it threatens her relationship
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: with Laura, Lee and Rory, and then she says, Richard,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you need to handle this like you. We cannot have
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Tricks giving this money because it will ruin everything we've
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: just finally gotten back. But Richard doesn't handle it. I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: think he did. He didn't. How did he? How How
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: did he? How did he handle it? I feel like
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: that scene where they're having tea and then she decides
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: not to give the money. You think Richard had to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: talk with her. And on top of that, she heard
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: she overheard Laura Lae and Emily arguing about it. Correct.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I think I think deep down Tricks is a super
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: decent woman and she is super smart. So she realized, uh,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: this is causing problems. I'm not going to let them
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: know that I actually have a warm heart, but I'm
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna fix this because that's a scene that
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: would have been a scene that would have been written,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and what a scene it would have been between you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Mama's boy and Mama. Right, Why didn't we get the scene?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Because I think we're supposed to. And again, you could
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: be right that it was just that she overheard the conversation.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: But I feel like Tricks isn't going to ever let
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: her guard down for anyone to realize. But inherently she
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: believes in family, and she realized, Okay, wait, I'm screwing
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: up this secession that I have that matters to me,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to have that happen because the bloodline,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the succession is more important than in me giving Ry
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: this money. Now, maybe it's it's the fact that I think,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: maybe it's the fact, maybe I'm just outside possibility. Maybe
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: it's the fact that, uh, Emily, I'm sorry, Marion Ross
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: feels threatened by Emily for and they're in competition for
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the affections of and he's my boy. Maybe he's probably
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: an only child if he's behaving this way. I mean,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine he has brothers and sisters. Not to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: not to trash only children, but I mean they have
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: a very very close special bond with one or both parents, um,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: even to the point where it can be debilitating. And
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I think we're seeing evidence of that because Richards just
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: sitting there with his drink going when when Tricks has
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: just taken apart Emily, she's just she's being You can't
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: be meaner or more condescending to another human being. Then
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: what we what we witnessed in that episode. I mean
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: she just takes her apart. I mean no, I mean
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that was no respect towards Emily. That was just utter
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: hostility and everything she said to her, Yeah, which is
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: exactly what you would expect of a mother in law
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: in that situation. Wealthy and privileged to the daughter in law.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: It's like the mother in laws are notorious meme in
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: quotes to the daughter in law Richard step in Man,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, it's like a prize fight. You
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: gotta the ref's gotta step in and warn the person
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: that's like doing the cheap shots. Like you do that again.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I'm taking a point away from you. You know what.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I think Richard's just oblivious to it. He doesn't care.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: He's so like into his mom, and you know, he
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: knows he loves Emily, so it just didn't matter to him.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: So like, yeah, let me escort you to the dining room,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: even though it's seven oh five or five minutes late.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Like he's a he's a snooty, is what he is?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Good God, really, that's your wife, you know what, Listen,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not talking about ed Herman personally, who
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I have such a deep respect for. It's it's really
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you know, listen. I went to college to UH to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: get a degree in complet and it's what I'm trying
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to do. It's what my brain does. It's where I
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: go when I break things down. I analyze character, I
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: analyze narrative, I analyze storylines, and um, you know, I've
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: written a bunch of screenplays. I'm not saying I'm the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: best writer in the world, but I am a pretty
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: good structuralist and I kind of know the craft. And
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and so when I see these these things that stick
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: out to me, I I want to point them out
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to our audience and I'm I really it's for me.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: It's educational in that of course it's the first time
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I've seen it, so it's kind of you know, it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it's virgin territory for me, and it's shocking to me.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: And I want to would be able to express that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to offend anybody, Okay, I'm really really not.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to open up my own eyes
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: while maybe opening up a few other eyes in the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: audience and getting a debate going, because this is kind of,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you know, this is how I really see it, and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, this is my unfiltered self.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: And I mean, if you compare it to you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Luke Daines, that's I'm the actor that portrayed that guy,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: and I have my own voice, and I know some
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: people are gonna be stirred by that. But that's just
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the way things are. And uh, you know, we're you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be real with you guys. I mean, we're
• 24:36
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• 24:40
  Speaker 1: on this podcast. I mean, as you know, Amy's very opinionated.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I'm very opinionated. And that's just the show. That's what
• 24:46
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• 24:51
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• 24:53
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• 24:58
  Speaker 1: it's interesting for you. We're really not trying to offend
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: anybody at all or cause any kind of controversy. And
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: these aren't personal knocks against the actors. It's just how
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I feel in the moment about the characters. So it's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: really more an analysis of the writing than anything. It's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: not an analysis of the acting or it's it's really
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: more analysis of the writing because I'm a writer at heart.
• 25:22
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• 25:25
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• 25:28
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• 25:31
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• 25:36
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• 25:39
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• 25:41
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• 25:44
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• 25:47
  Speaker 1: you get you get negative feedback from the coaches like
• 25:49
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• 25:52
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• 25:56
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• 25:59
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• 26:01
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• 26:04
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• 26:09
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• 26:11
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• 26:15
  Speaker 1: own work as I am anybody else's Like, I'll criticize
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: myself as Scott as the actor for being not very
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: good in that scene, and you've heard me do it. So, um,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not offended. You know, I don't offend myself because
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and if and I've also pointed out in in you know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: recent press last couple of years about certain storylines that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't think were contributing as mightily as I thought
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: they could have, uh to the overall arc of of
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: what Gilmore Girls is and has become for the fans,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: so I feel a very I feel very protective of it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: So I want it to be great, And that's really
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: all these reactions are are coming from. So I'm gonna
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: be as honest about my forms as I am uh
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and my character uh arcs as anybody else's. So there
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you go. Wait, so we have to go backwards for
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: a second to how many classic lines are in this episode.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: How about right from the start when they had nothing
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: to talk about at dinner and then Laurel I says,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: did you know a book model mixed him? And then
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I mean I was dying laughing right from the start,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: because then Richard comes home and Emily says, we're in here,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: just fall the crickets. Right that episode had line after
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: line after line. It was so well written. You know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that's evidence when she started talking about the Kennedy's and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: how they you know, debate every subject under the sun
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and so culturally elevated their dinner tables like she would know. Um,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: but I guess Life magazine did a did a piece
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: on them back in the sixties, and how magazine is
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: a great reference right there, and and it just it
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: just shows how Emily so much aspires to you know, yeah,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: keep culture right, and and Tricks is savvy. Like Laura
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Lee makes the joke and Trick says, was that a joke?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And then she says yes, and she's like well done.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: And then later in the night, you know, Laura La
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: makes another joke and Tricks says, We've had enough jokes
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: for the night. For the night, you know, like she
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: just is Tricks is whip smart. Tricks is a humorless person.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: She is a humorous woman obsessed with her own power. See.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I don't hate her as much as you do. I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: think she's just sort of straight out of Central Casting
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of the snooty, kind of mean grandma who has the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: mama's boy and is mean to the daughter in law,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: but really is kind of cool. She's not cool. She
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: had lasted five minutes in my health. My mom would
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: have my mom would have said, what did you just
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: say to me? You'll make a great pot? Because what
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: if she went to the diner to me Luke. I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: don't think Luke and Tricks would have vibed. Yeah, but
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have cared, right, I don't vibe with anybody.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, look look at Look at how I try
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to vibe with Laurela. I'm a I'm a you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I'm terrible at it. I know I can't vibe with anybody.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: My timing is off. I get nervous, you know, I
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: don't say anything. I think Luke vibes with Emily. I do.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: They have their problems, but every encounter we've had they
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: do vibe. You know, maybe sometime we could. I mean,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: that's how close he is, right. He can't even ask
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: around on a day time. He always gets screwed up.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: The guy said, I don't know, he's such a locks.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, this episode is kind of wild because we
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: haven't even gotten into the Tristan Rory kristin Paris. So
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Tristan and Rory really are becoming friends. Well, I think
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: it's really more, you know, uh, I think it's real
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Rory being more like a counselor or a life coach
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to this because she's she's aware of of his his
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: soft spot now and he's really not this this scary guy,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and he's just a vulnerable kind of and he's not
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: terribly bright. Let's let's just he's in he's in that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: school because his dad you know, paid somebody to put
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: his dumb son in there, because the kid's not very bright,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: because he's like, you know, because his reactions to Rory's
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: analysis of the situation and said, he really you want
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: me to be with the Paris anyway? You know, he's
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: he's like a dumb, pretty kid who's really rich. Yeah,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I like your take that she isn't She isn't afraid
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of him anymore. But I thought that conversation they had
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: their kiss was quite sweet because you know, they both
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: want to talk. They chalk it up to they were
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: both having a bad day, and then you know, he says,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I kissed you you cried and she says it was
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a nice kiss, like I was. You know, it wasn't
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a crying material kiss. And then they kind of bond.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Then he kind of is cool guy, I want to
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: try it again. Well, that's just because he's dumb. You know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't get what she's saying. She she
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: they're on such different levels. I mean, she she feels
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: sorry for him at this point, to the point where
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: like it's kind of funny, you know, the the I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's like playing a trick on getting even
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: with Paris. Right to set him up with that idiot
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: because you know it's not gonna work out. She knew
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna end. Well, see, I love your perspective,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: but I as I and it could be because I'm
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: a woman, and I just saw it so sweet. I
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: love there. Oh they're getting along and they're so sweet,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: and they're kind of bonding over their kids, even though
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it wasn't right. And then he's sort of, you know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: he's sort of becoming friends with Rory, and you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: she says, you need someone with substance, try Paris, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he's going, you know, okay, like you're kind of like
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: a mentor to me. Now, okay, let's let's try it.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take your advice. But he doesn't have
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: any substance. How could he be with somebody of substance
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: when he is completely vacuous human being. I mean, he's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: like he's such a puppy dog and he's so dumb.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: That's that summer summer is like, you know, got him
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: on a leash. You know, he around that party. Well
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: where are you going? Well I want a little then
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and said, well, well baby, I'm gonna be over here.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: With these fellas who cares what you want? Spits in
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: his face and the like, summer, what are you doing this?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You know? You know, I'm like, wow, you are right.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Rory thinks the guy's pathetic. There's nothing to be afraid of.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Let's just set him up with Paris, because I mean,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: she's pathetic too, and this will be fun to watch.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, now she's getting her kicks at the private
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: school with these dopey kids, right, And she's far more mature,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: she's far more self sufficient, she's far more able to
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: deal with the world because of who her mom is.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Her mom has a backbone of iron, So now Rory
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: has a backbone of iron. Even though she's so she's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: such a soft touch and such as, she hasn't lost
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: her sweetness and she hasn't lost her heart. Neither is Laurel. Right,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: So I mean, you're not wrong, and none of what
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you say is wrong. And she's in his private school
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: with these psychos. I mean they're completely crazy people. I mean,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, Paris shows up at
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the front door, ranting and raving about her clothing, and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: she's like screaming the whole time. She said, I didn't
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: know what to bring, and so I just brought one
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: of everything, and I didn't know what to do. I mean,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that girl needs to be institutionalized. Are you kidding me?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: She was running around in a private school, smart as
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a whip. Doesn't think you know, dating is necessary, because
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: how does that get you into college? You know, this
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. I mean, she's I mean, this is
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: what's so funny because none of what you're saying is wrong.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Although I just looked at it, it was such a
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: different view, like, oh, it's so sweet and they're bonding
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and they're going in glberalized closet and Rory's helping and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Paris I looked at it, is like Paris was so lost,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Like this is her biggest moment of her life. She
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: finally gets to go on a date with this dude.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: She doesn't know what to wear. She needs help. She
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: can't ask the other two girls because they're so mean,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: you know, So she's turning to Rory, and Rory's helping her.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: She is helping her because Rory is a She doesn't judge,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: she knows what she's dealing with. She knows that Paris
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Is is hell bent for leather and if and and
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Rory is such a mature, sweet kid that she's going
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: to befriend this person trying to help her out because
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Paris is headed for destruction. She's got an appetite for destruction.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: This one. I mean, she's just she's so insecure and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: so angry all the time. And you know, who cares
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: where it's from. She just is you know, it's her
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: p answer or whatever. But it's like, you know, Rory
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: is so strong a person that she's going to try
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to help this girl out. She's gonna give her mom's clothes,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: she's going to set her up with with Tristan, and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you know, she's a good kid, and she now she
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: sees these private school kids aren't, so you know, she's
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: smarter than they are that you know, she she can
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: keep up, she can do the work, she can do
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: the reading, you know, and she's you know, she's probably
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: ten fifteen years older than them emotionally speaking, without without
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: being closed off. And I don't I don't think she's
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: necessarily messing with people, but she knows that standing in
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: front of her with a pile of clothes in her
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: fourier is a raving lunatic who needs her friendship. Who
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: needs to have a friendship. This is what is so fascinating.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Everything you're saying is right, even though I also saw
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: in a totally different way. But that's there too. I'm
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: not disagreeing with you. That is there too. It's her
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: being a friend. But but it's like it's like Rory
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: standing back and listening to this and looking at this
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: person like, oh my god, she she a mess. You
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: are right that now the same thing with Tristan. She
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be intimidated by any of these people anymore,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and I think that is giving her a leg up
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: or something. So now we see the advantage that she
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: has coming from such a spectacular mom who did it
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: her own way and gave her this strength, and gave
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: her this independence, and gave her this desire to uh
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: succeed academically. Because that's really I mean that that's not
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: lost because Laurela made some bad decisions or or life
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: happened to Laurela. You know, this happens to a lot
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of people. So what do you think about the money?
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Because that was interesting in that I don't think Emily
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: was manipulating LORELEI. I think she was saying this money
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: is going to change things. And Lorely listened and was like,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: at first, loyal lies, like she can have the money,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: it's all good, And then she listened to Emily in
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the same way. Emily was threatened by that money and
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that she would lose what she loves, which is having
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: her daughter and her granddaughter in her life. But I
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: think Tricks, you know, made a major misstep by not
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: discussing this first in a respectful way with Richard and
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Emily like what do you think? But she just kind
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of bowled her way in and said I'm thinking of
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: doing this, and she did it right, She didn't right
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: in front of Lola. And that's the first time Emily
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: heard of it. It's the first time Richard heard of it.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And you know, maybe she discussed it with Richard and
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: he just sat on his little tricycle and my day. No,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I look, Tricks is never going to do the appropriate
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: thing because she's just not that way. That was inappropriate.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: That was really inappropriate. And even though it's it's very generous,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: um completely understandable how Emily was was getting unnerved by it.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I don't blame her. Yeah, And we've known from the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: start that Emily used the money that she gave to
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: lower Lee to give to Rory, because she used that
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: to her advantage to be able to have them in
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: her life, because that's ultimately what she cares about, even
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: though it's misguided at times, totally understandable. Yeah, and this
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: threatened that, which was the ultimate threat to Emily, and
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: why Emily just became so distraught basically by it And
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: how dare how dare tricks come into this house and
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: blow up my potential relationship with my granddaughter and my
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: daughter And who does she think she's coming in here
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: doing this? Richard step in and do something. You know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: He's not going to do anything. He's just gonna go.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: What does he say? He says, yes, yes, mother, your
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: your every wish is my command. He leads her up
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to the bedroom. It's like, what, Yeah. I don't think
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Richard felt threatened by the money and that he would lose.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think Richard thinks he's going to orally and
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Rory like Emily does. Richard's like, I think Richard has
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: such a bond with Rory now that he doesn't feel
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: like anything's going to prevent that. You know, when we
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: know that because Trick said, my son is very fond
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of you, and Rory says, I'm very fond of him.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: They have that bond that we've seen since they went golfing,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and it's it's solid. Nobody mentions how fond he is
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: of Laura Lie right. They have more tension. They've got tension,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: real tension. Yeah. In fact, I think they have as much,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: if not more tension than Laura Lee and Emily. I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: think you could be right, and I think that you
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: need to keep that tension. It needs to be taught,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: it needs to be m Yeah. That's that's one of
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the big engines of that show. That's maybe the primary
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: complex engine of that show. That it is complicated and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: it's god boy. I tell you though, man, this tricks
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Wow wow wow. Okay, So I want to know from
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: everybody before we get into pop culture. Do you like
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: tricks or do you dislike tricks? I gotta tell you, man,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I just like it. I don't like that attitude. Yeah,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: that doesn't wash with me. I was raised different. It's like, nah,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: you know, my family would have put her in her
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: place real fast. I would have to agree with Scott,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: but I do love her for this show. Like when
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: she came on screen and she started giving Emily a
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: run for her money. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yeah, well, yeah,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: entertainment value wise, it's way up there because the character
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: is so absurd that you just have to laugh at it,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: and it was really funny. There's there's no I mean,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: she had the best lines of the whole episode. I mean,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: she had several great lines. Um, But anyway, what do
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: you think, Riley? What's your opinion? I think I think
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: there's a charm to her. I don't know, I don't know.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I know she's like rude and very hurtful to Emily
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and others, but I kind of like her a little bit.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: She's got charmed like a serial killer. Jesus, that's the
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: best kind. What's in her freezer? I don't know if
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I like her or not. I definitely think she helps
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: me to understand Richard. She that whole sort of like
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: entanglement with all of them and how they interacted was
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: totally enjoyable to watch. And also, yeah, I mean, I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: don't know if i'd want to be your bestie? Who
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: was to bendo for it to be nice to somebody
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: who's so condescending. I mean Mary and Ross herself said
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: she was crabby. Yeah, i mean it's like it's not
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: just a multigenerational gap. It's like this woman walks in
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: from the sixteen hundreds and starts, you know, dumping on everybody.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: It's like, by the way, we even talked about this gorgeous,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: does Marion Ross still look in her nineties? Yeah, that's
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Tricks looks older twenty years ago than
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Marion Rosstas. Now, they really changed Marion Ross's look to
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: play Tricks. Yeah, she's she's a she's a fabulous actress.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And she goes from Mrs Cunningham to that. Well,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and what's crazy is it was years after Mrs Cunneyham.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Like it was like she was very young when she
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: played Mrs Cunneyham. Well, yeah, she's ninety two now, so
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: she so that was fifty years ago, so she's yeah,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I mean she was right at the right age. Well, yeah,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: she she was younger than Mrs Cunningham must have been,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: because like Richie was in his twenties, how old was
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: How old is Henry Winkler? Now Henry Winkler is seventy five,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: So that was so he was twenty five ish and
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: also sidebar, and I know we have to take a break.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Henry Winkler is the nicest man on the planet. There
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: is no one nicer he is. Oh my god, he
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: never had, never had the pleasure. The nicest, the nicest
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: person I've ever met in Hollywood was John Ritter. Well,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, you are correct. And the third nicest
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: is Ron Howard and the three of them were all pals.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Henry Winkler's two best friends are Ron Howard and John Ritter,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and they are the three nicest people you will ever meet.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: That's the superpower. I feel honored that I've met all three.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: They're Marvel characters. Man, good night, the nice guys. All right, well,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I guess we need to take a break. And then
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Riley better. I'm ex I know this is like he
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, besides having all the blood taken out of
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: my veins today from my visit give blood. Oh you
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: you had had a physical? Are you going to live? Well?
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, Well they haven't. They just you know
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: they have that the lab results aren't back. And I'll
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: let you you know, I take a physical every year
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: and today to Scotch we need you to like hang around.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang in there. I'm gonna hang in there.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that that prostate exam wasn't too fun.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: That was like, you know, that was a Chevy Chase
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: moment where I was like talking to the doctor and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden move river, Wow, doc, you ever
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: served time? Have you served time? That's what he said
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: to the doctor. Really, Oh my god. All right, Okay,
• 45:07
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• 45:58
  Speaker 1: How are you, Marian? I'm pretty down good considering considering.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: It's nice to see you, Scott. It's nice to see
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you too. So let's get into this. Let's let's start
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: talking Gilmore in these episodes which you were so fantastic
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and and I'll give us a little I don't think
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I have to do a big ramp up. Everybody knows
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: who you are, but I'll give you a little introduction,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, who we are joined by the illustrious
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Uh Marion Ross, who played the role of Laurel I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Tricks Gilmore in total of six episodes from two thousand,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: two thousand and five and Gilmore Girls, Um, and I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: want to just sort of start out with some fan questions.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of fans, you know, they communicate with us
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: and they want to know certain things. So we we
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: want to ask you, Marian. You're the third Laurel I,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: another Laureli Gilmore uh grandmother, Rory's great grandmother, Richard's mother.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: What do you remember about Gilmore Girls? Specifically, what do
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I love about I love because we were barely ready
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: to go on and then we're shooting it. Now we're
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: shooting it, you know. So it was it was always
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: so much fun because I was always a little under rehearsed,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: you know, and uh, maybe not quite true what I
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: was wearing to really under rehearsed. It sure didn't come
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: off that way. Wow, I don't know, And I'm so
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I'm very very proud of this fun the creative cast,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: you know, the very creative people, right right, right right,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: it was. It was a tremendous It was a tremendous cast.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: So you're absolutely iconic on the roles in Happy Days
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: is another fan question the Love Boat. How did you
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: get the role of Tricks on Gilmore Girls? Tell us
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit about that process us. Well, it's so funny.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: You get a phone call and it was I think
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: it was Amy Palladino something, and uh, it wasn't really
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: too familiar with her, and but she knew that I
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: was used to doing sitcoms, and I said, well that
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: would be fine, and but I'm not I'm not a
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: very crabby person. I'm just a very smiley, world's nicest person.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: So this was why what she kept wanting to her
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the mother to be crabby. You know, so that was
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: that was fun for me. Oh you did it so well,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: that was tho. These episodes are so great, really funny.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: So you said before, you're the opposite of this character.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: You're a very sunny, happy person. You took on the role.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: What was that like? Did you really so you really
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it? You really enjoyed playing that character? I do.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I love being grouchy, crounchy and crabby, you know, I
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: think this is so much fun and I just I
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: love I love the cast so much. And you you
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: were wonderful Jarley. Yes, yeah, and you were so handsome.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah I used to be. Yeah. We all were just
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: having a good time, you know. We we we we
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: truly were. Um So let me you know, there's something about,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you know, the bigger actors that come on to the set,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and people want to know, did you get a lot
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: of direction or any direction at all from the directors
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: that you worked with? No? Actually, in my memory, I'm
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: thinking that I didn't get a lot of direction. They
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: had hired you. Although I was supposed to be very crabby,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I was a crabby person instead of being
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: so sunny. I wasn't missus c at all so and
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I just it was it was just so fun because
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: you kids were also young. You were all young, right,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: were Well? I wasn't. I mean I got I was forty.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I was forty or forty one when I got that job.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: So um, really yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I felt young.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I wasn't young, but I felt young at the time.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the public knows this, but in Hollywood,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: forty young forty one is quite young because we we
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: are such big liars. We've been lying about our age
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: for so long, and nobody knows that we passed forty,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: and we passed fifty and now we're now we're passing sixty.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Do you know how old I am? Now? Do you
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: want to know how old I am? Sure? I'm ninety two.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I am ninety two in three quarters. I can't believe
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I possible. You don't. You do not look anywhere close
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: to ninety two. Well, listen, I come from from Minnesota,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and the Scotch Gyrish in me has got these rosy cheeks.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: You know. Also, I'm I'm quite healthy and smart. You know,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I'm smart, smart as a whip. There you go. That helps,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: you know, let's talk a little bit about happy days. Um,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: we can't not talk about it. You know, you're Are
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: you recognized walking down the street when you go out
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: as as Marion Cunningham when you go out. It's so funny.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: It's getting to be kind of so many years ago.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: So I'm not really recognized, especially in Hollywood. There are
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: so many actors. There's actors in every neighborhood here, so
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: it is you can be an innocent bystander. But I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: have enjoyed my career so much, and uh, I like
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: being a nice person. What what was nice about the
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls was I got to be crabby? Crabby? I wasn't.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I wasn't so nice And it's very lovely to not
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: be so nice all the time. Yes, it is. What
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: are your fondest memories of working on happy Days? We
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: have so many. We did two hundred and sixty eight shows,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and we had an audience out there live,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: so that was so much fun. And you know what
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: we also they decided to put us into a softball team,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: so okay, so now they took the Fonds, who never
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: played softball in his life, and they trained Henry Winkler
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: to pitch, so he became the pitcher. Ron Howard had
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: been playing ball all his life, so his first base.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: So we played softball and then we they flew us
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: to Europe. We played softball in the army camps. Can
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you believe that? It was a very important part of
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: our relationship. So gosh, Happy Days was similar to Gilmore
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Girls and how the military would rally around it to
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: see comfort. Maybe. I don't know, yeah, because I get
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of that from current military veterans, you know,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Iraqi war veterans, Afghan War veterans, and they they said
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: they go out on patrol and they'd come back to
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: the barracks and watch Gilmore Girls. Oh my gosh, how
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: wonderful Happy Days? Wow? Um, So tell us about Ed Herman.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: What was it like working with Ed? Because because these
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: these scenes you guys do together, you, Kelly and Ed
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: are just fantastic. What was it like working with that?
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I really admire Ed Herman. He's a wonderful actor. I've
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: been watching him on television doing live shows out of
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: cb us. Uh. He's a wonderful and he's from the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: East and he's so dignified he's and it was it
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: was a treat just to be with him. He was
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: quite a gentleman, treated me so well. It was it
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: was fun with ed Herman. He's got all the background.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, quite a resume. Um. So with so much
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: wisdom that you've gained over a long career. What advice
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: would you have for anyone, say, trying to make it
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: in the acting world. What would you what would you
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: advise them to do? I want them to take it
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: very seriously, because you want to earn a living out
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: of this, and you want to make a lot of friends,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: and all the friends you make are going to give
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: you a chance in the next show. And so try
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: to get along with everybody. Don't be temperamental. You want
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: to be a serious actress. So it was a great
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: thrill to go to place I would I would read, uh,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: all kinds of books about acting, very serious. Did you
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: were you as serious young actor? Oh? Sure, yeah, yeah,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I I read all the books. I read all the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Stanislavski I was at the actor's studio in New York.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I read all the Shakespeare I could get my hands on.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I studied, study studies, studied, I did off Broadway. I
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: never got on Broadway, but I was doing off off
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: and off Broadway, you know, Samuel Beckett theater, that kind
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: of stuff. So what makes you happy these days? What
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: do you What are you doing these days? You're working,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: You're you're working on stuff. What are you doing? I'm
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: a naturally very happy person. I don't put a lot
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: of pressure on myself. I have a good time. I
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: called my house here Happy Days Farm, and it's a
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: good acre plus or maybe two acres maybe, yeah, I
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: think so. So it's pretty nice. I uh. And when
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I think of my childhood in Minnesota, I slept in
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the basement and it really is really abasement, really a basement.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't have anything as a kid, but my mother
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: was a Canadian and she was filled with hopes and
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: dreams and just irish enough, you know. So uh. I
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I always had a dream and I always lived a dream.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: And by the time I was uh twenty one years old,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I was under contract to Paramount Studios Wow. And in
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: those days, they would hire a bunch of young people
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: that they hoped to train and make make stars out
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: of them. One of the young stars that I was
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: just in scenes with was Audrey hepburned. Oh my goodness,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to go out and kill yourself. She
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: was all that. Huh perfect, she was perfect? Yeah, my goodness.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: All right, Marion, Look, it was a pleasure catching up
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: with you, and we'd love to have you back on
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: if you can carve out another twenty minutes for us,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: and if not through just in future. Well I look
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: forward to seeing you again. Okay, all the best you, Marian,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: take care of Okay, all right, Well that was amazing.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Marion Ross was a great guest, filled with I mean
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: just the stories coming out of her, with the people
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: that she's worked with and what she's accomplished in the business.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: And uh so let me. I'm gonna tell you a
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: little bit about her because I didn't get to at
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: the top of this. She hails from Albert Lee, Minnesota,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: and after college at San Diego State University, she began
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: her career were under contract at Paramount Studios in the
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: fifties with Live TV at CBS and Life with Father.
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  Speaker 1: She's she's proudest of performing with Noel Coward, which we
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  Speaker 1: ten in the Last Romance with her Darling and late
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  Speaker 1: Paul Michael. Yeah, all right, everybody, we're back, Scott Patterson,
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  Speaker 1: I am all in podcast I Heart Radio, one of
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  Speaker 1: leven Production. Riley pop Culture Time. I'm Riley and this
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  Speaker 1: is your pop culture first we have. Emily makes such
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: a big deal about tricks and Laura Lie says, I
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: still can't get over the fact that I'm related to God.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: It's going to make getting Madonna tickets so much easier.
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  Speaker 1: So this is probably in reference to Madonna's Like a Prayer.
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  Speaker 1: Madonna is arguably the most iconic pop star in history,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: with hits like Vogue, Like a Virgin and Don't Cry
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  Speaker 1: for Me Argentina, and she was fired from Duncan Donuts
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  Speaker 1: after scoring Jelly on a customer on one of her
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  Speaker 1: first jobs. She suffers from bronto phobia, the fear of
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  Speaker 1: thunder and lightning, and Sting is the godfather of her son, Rocco.
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  Speaker 1: Rory says, not all Roy says, not all girls want
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  Speaker 1: to be queen. Even Barbie ended up being a stewardess.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: So Rory explains to Paris, not all girls want to
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: be queen when they're talking about their democracy project? And
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: is Barbie considered a pop culture reference and the pop culture?
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: We have the points, but we want to really know
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: if Barbie is pop culture. Barbie is and isn't. It's
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: like it's almost like it's so obvious. Everyone knows that
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  Speaker 1: Barbie is. Give us, give us a little Barbie fact.
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  Speaker 1: But Barbie is the essence of pop culture. Barbie was
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  Speaker 1: created by an engineer who actually worked at the Pentagon,
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  Speaker 1: and the first Barbie sold for three dollars each and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: today an original in mint condition could be likely fetched
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: nearly twenty five dollars at an auction. Why did you
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: say it was invented by somebody who worked at the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Pentagon a military crest yep. He used to work at
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: the Pentagon and then invented the Barbie, what a strange story.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: It's it's definitely a different career path from the Pentagon. Well,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: i just developed the I CBM and now I've got
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: some side interests. I'm going to it very statuous, plastic doll.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: It's bringing joy in a different way. Next, we have Tricks,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: refers to Emily and Lora life fighting at t to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: a scandal evolving. Sarah Ferguson Dutch of your Tricks, says,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: it's like watching for you all over again. Tricks was
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: referring to the former wife of Prince Andrew, Duke of York,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: the third child of Queen Elizabeth the Second, and they
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: actually filed for divorce in n but in a twist,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: the Duke and Duchess remained good friends, as they have
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: been for many years. They have two daughters together, Beatrice
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: and Beatrice and Eugenie. Isn't it Eugenia? I heard Eugenie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I could do an accent if they make
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: it a little kee British, make it British, come on
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: his royalty. The two have together, Beatrice and Eugenia or
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Eugenie Good. Beatrice was married and Eugenia in two thousand eighteen.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Good stuff, Riley, don't bring them my kurd, go work.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, do it again. Hit
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: us again with it east and hit us again. Don't
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: bring them my Curd. I met Fergie and I remember
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: it was like a long time ago, so it was like,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, probably years ago, and the big thing
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: was you can't touch royalty, so we had to mike her.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: But I'm trying to remember how we did it because
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: normally I just like mike you, I throw a mic
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: on you and throw the pack in your pocket or
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: you know, in your back. And we couldn't mike her,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: so I think somebody else had to do it because
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: you can't touch the princess or I guess the duchess.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: You could touch her now? No she I think I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: don't still can't touch Not sure she's like booted out
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: of the family, right, I don't. I think at the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: time she was the Duchess because it was like in
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: the nineties, So maybe now you could touch her. Does
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: she retained the title picture there? We're gonna have to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: do a deep dive on that. We got to find
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: out if we can touch in the nineties. I could
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: not touch her, not in the nineties. Okay, keep going Riley,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: all right. That answers a lot of questions for me.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Rory says Louis. I think this is the beginning of
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: a beautiful friendship. And this is a quote from Casablanca
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: um starring Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bersion Bergman Bergman. I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: had it on that. You should see my notes. It
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: literally says like Iceberg and I still said it, starring
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergham. Starring Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman. Yes,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Sam's piano in the Movies sold from Sam's Piano in
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: the movie sold for more than six hundred thousand dollars
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: at a New York auction in December. Who loves black
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: and white movies? Here? Oh yeah, absolutely great. It only
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: sold for six Louise says, we'll turn you from a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: sweet Sandy to a slutty sand dancing at the school
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: fair with high heels, black spandex and perm tir. This
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: is a reference to Sandy played by Olivia Newton John
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: in the in the musical Greece, I love anything Greece,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I love those I love that outfit. At the end
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: of tight black leggings that outfit Olivia Newton. John was
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: sewed into her spandex pants because they were so tight.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: How did she go to the bathroom? She couldn't. You're
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: the one that I want. That's when they sing You're
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the one that I want. She's singing it to a toilet.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: She just never went to the bathroom. I want you
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: so bad? Do not remember the end of Greece when
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: she comes out and she looks all hot and the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: guys are like what, And she goes tell me about it,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: stead and then she steps on her cigarette and then
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: John Travolta is like, like, it's the best scene ever.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: One knows. Everyone knows. Everyone knows what I'm talking about.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: And John Travelton and Livia and John are still friends today,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: of course they are. Laura La says, I have to
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: change and go to tea with Grant and the cast
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: of Gaslight. This when she's talking to Rory when she's
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: getting ready for tea. Gaslight American psychological thriller about a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: husband trying to drive his wife insane in order to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: distract her from criminal activities. Yeah, you know what's so
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: funny about Gaslighting? It was so like a thing that
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: no one ever used that word, and now it's like everywhere,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: and the Bachelor recently the Bachelorette was a big gaslighting thing,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: and then like it's such a it's such a hot
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: word right now, don't gaslight me. But it's so perfect
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: because you think about how Tricks gaslights Emily and all
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: that she does, all the gas lighting that's going on
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Gilmore girls. I don't know if I call it gaslighting.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I call it gaslighting either. She's
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: just her way she does. She's don't put that much
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: thought into it. She just be exactly. Yeah, she's just crabby,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: just in the words of Mary and Ross crabby. She's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: just ornery. Is good to Louise says. Those who simply
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: wait for information to find them spend a lot of
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: time sitting by the phone. Those who go out and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: find it themselves have something to say when it rings.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Louise says this quote when Paris is out talking to Tristan,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: and Louise and Rory are debating whether they should go
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: out there too. Rory says Nisha, and Louise says Dawson.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Rora is referring to a German philosopher whose work has
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: been profoundly influential in Western philosophy. While Louise is referring
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: to Dawson Leary James Vanderbeek, the central character on the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: team drama series Dawson's Creek, practically the same people. They're practiced,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: They're so similar. Did you say Nietsche, how did you say?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: She definitely said it wrong, by the way, Nietzsche, Nietzsche, Nietzsche.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Did you say Nietzsche, No, Nietzsche, Yeah, no, Riley, Right,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: they're right, just they're all right. Nietzsche, Nie Nietzsche. This
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: is how you become a superstar. This is this is
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: like the trial by fire, This is it the gauntlet
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: coming Riley. There's gonna be a Netflix is going to
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: do a documentary of the abuse she took on the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: show called Becoming. You don't want to say to Riley,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: you have one job, one job to get these things right.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: And every time where she ever gonna how is she
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: going to research how to say Nietzsche? YouTube? You can
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: go on YouTube type that in and then you listen
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: to someone say, right, she didn't, but she didn't get
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: ingrid Bergmann right, Ryley, let me ask you something when
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: you were going when you were going to school, did
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: you did they signed Nietzsche? Absolutely not. Did they assigned
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: kar Guard? Did they sign an these people? Okay, well
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: that's why because you never heard a teacher saying exactly,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: it's not her fault. I know, I enjoy it that
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: she can't get this right. We're dealing with a budding
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: superstar here. We're molding a person with great potential here,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: and she's so busy working on her accents that she
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: But it's fine. Rather, my Netflix documentary is going to
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: be don't bang on my can just before it. No, no, no,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: you gotta do the don't bring on my current ahead.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: That's it. Don't bang them my kid. Our last pop
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: culture for reference for this episode, lorel I says, Lucy,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: how many times have I told you not to butt
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: in on people's business? In a Ricky Ricardo voice? Or
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: we'll see how many times have I told you not
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: the button on people's business? I mean, oh my god,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of like sort of way there.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I she kind of got the essence of
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: the accent. It is not Ricky Ricardo, but I kind
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: of got that. I got it from her, pretty well done.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe keep working on it. Next week bring it back.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Let's let's bring it back in the next episode. Week
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: was not Ricky Ricardo. You know who I love more
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: than Desi Ernez was Desi Ernz Junior. He was so
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: hot on The Brady Bunch anyway, Desi Ernz Junior on
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: The Brady Bunch. Yes, yes, take some time and rewatch
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: that episode. Oh no, I have so much free time. Yes,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I'll be doing that tonight. Actually, I'm canceling all my plans,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: no football game, no name Tampa Bay. Even going to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: give you a hard time because I still have like whatever.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: My son can read his own books. I redid Saw
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: one and I was going in order, and I haven't
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: gotten to Saw two yet, So I think you're down.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: What are you saw for? I'll get to it. I'll
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: get to it. I'll get to it, all right. I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: love I love the sum of it. In your time? Wisely,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: is it time for me to give my line? Let
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: me give my favorite. So this episode had a thousand
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: brilliant lines, but this was my favorite. Glauralize at the
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: end and she answers the phone and her mom says,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I need the hat rack and she says the fish
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: flies at night she covered And the whole bit about
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: the second hand present was also genius, the whole thing,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: that whole scene. I love, Riley, what was your favorite line?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I love when Paris is getting ready and Rory finds
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: her note cards and she says, yeah, just some reference points, really,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: you know, subjects to bring up in case of conversation.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Lags umus, what my my. There was too many to pick,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna pick one because it was the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: most kurt. And if brevity is the soul of wit,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: then Emily saying when when when Trick said, oh, Richard
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: side of the family never gets sick, do they? But
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Emily She's constantly sick. And then Laura le goes, mom,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: you're six, she goes headache. That episode was just some
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: of the best lines ever. Run. I agree. There we
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: go see Nisha. Al Right, everybody, we're gonna wrap it up.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Riley for another invigorating session of pop culture.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: They are getting better and deeper and funnier. And I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: think what we have here is a budding superstar, and Riley,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: we're bringing her along slowly because we know the potential
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: here and we don't want to rush her, but man,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: she's gonna end up taking over the show. I gotta
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: tell you some of these some of these impressions and
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: accents you're doing now, we need to work on the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: pronunciation of philosophers names a little bit, maybe, but that's
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a small price to pay for what
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: we're getting in return. Let me tell you, um anyway,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: excellent job to Riley, to Amy, to Danielle Romo. You
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: were in this uh episode, Scott because we didn't talk
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: about the fact that you talking about what you're not
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: in it. It was best performance ever game through the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: whole and fifty four episodes, the one I wasn't in
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: because people kept wondering when is he going to show up?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And that's the power of Luke. But it wasn't Marion
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Ross amazing. Wasn't she amazing? What a regal, regal talented person? Right?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: And no she's not. She's nothing like that character, thank god, nothing.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: But what what a what an instrument to be able
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: to play that kind of music, you know, because she
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: can play any song you throw at her, and that
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Trixie song boy, that's allowed song that you just want
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: to turn off. While enjoying listening to it. Anyway, that's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: gonna do it? Uh, next week, what are we doing?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: What are we doing next week? Emily and Wonderland. We're
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: gonna do Emily in Wonderland. And We've got a very
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: very very very special guest. I'm very excited to have
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: this guest. When when when Amy told me about this guest,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I my wife even went crazy. She was like, oh my,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: oh no, oh yeah. She was like, oh, can I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: be on the episode? I want to tell your wife
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: she certainly can. Anybody you know you don't want to
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: do that. Keep it as a surprise. People find out.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: She'll take over. She'll she'll she's the most interesting person
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: in the world, and she'll make me look like, oh
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: my god, we need it. I love that. We'll do
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: that at some point, I don't know. We gotta keep
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: seeing streams separate, you know, start crossing steams here. I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: want to get into her fashion group and take over.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Anyway? Guys, Uh, good talking, a lot
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: of fun. We'll see you net this week. Everybody. Thanks
• 1:14:01
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