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Blue Jays let Dylan Cease ride, Pirates halt Jared Jones perfecto, Michael Kay vs. Anthony Volpe? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to a brand new live edition
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  Speaker 1: of Foul Territory. I'm Alana result In for Scott Braun.
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  Speaker 1: You know Kevin Palar, you know Eric Kratz. Guys, good
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  Speaker 1: to be with you on this Thursday afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: How about Tyler Tolbert.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not certain how many people had actually heard of
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  Speaker 1: this young man prior to now, guys, but twelve consecutive hits,
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  Speaker 1: the bat is headed to Cooperstown KP.
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  Speaker 2: We'll start with you.
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  Speaker 1: You guys know how hard it is to get a
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  Speaker 1: hit in this game, let alone twelve as far as
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  Speaker 1: that is concerned. Twelve consecutive hits. Congratulations young man. Kevin,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think?
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  Speaker 3: It's incredible? Like you said, I mean, I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: who he was. The world obviously knows his name. Now
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  Speaker 3: his bat is going to Cooperstown, so it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be there forever. But it just tells you how hard
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  Speaker 3: it is because you think about some of these great
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  Speaker 3: hitters in baseball, the Wan Sotos, the Luisa Rises. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they haven't been close to that. So it's a combination
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  Speaker 3: of you know, getting really lucky over and over again,
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  Speaker 3: you know, having good at the Bowl, skills and then
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  Speaker 3: also helps he can run really fast down the line.
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  Speaker 1: Eric, how many consecutive hits did you get in your
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  Speaker 1: career in terms of your longest hit streak if you
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  Speaker 1: remember two?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard, right, I'm pretty sure I definitely went
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  Speaker 4: two for two on back to back hits, pretty sure.
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  Speaker 2: So you can appreciate twelve then.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like, I'm probably the only one here that
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  Speaker 4: knew Tyler Tolbert. But that's just because of his name,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, being kind of a Royals fan, you
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  Speaker 4: hear his name, he's like that you Tolbert. But like
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  Speaker 4: this is not this is like a perfect game in
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  Speaker 4: the sense that you have to be a good player
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  Speaker 4: to do it, but also you have to have the
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  Speaker 4: right things go for you, like the swinging bunt to
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  Speaker 4: tie the to tie the record, Like that's just it
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  Speaker 4: was meant to be. What I'm pissed about is at
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  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, Cooper's down took his stinking back
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  Speaker 4: like took it like KP got some extra hits right here,
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  Speaker 4: because this is KP's bat, and this like what if
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  Speaker 4: this bat had twelve straight hits in it and KP
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  Speaker 4: gave it to me like that would be a track
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  Speaker 4: you could have.
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  Speaker 1: At least, well you could have at least had you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe three at bats, three straight at bats with a hit.
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  Speaker 2: Then if KP would have given that to.
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  Speaker 5: You, I couldn't have made that little truth pick.
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  Speaker 3: Now I know, I know at the very least, I
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  Speaker 3: know I had a five for five games, So I
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  Speaker 3: know I had five straight hits and I can't imagine
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  Speaker 3: it was wrapped around with a net. I mean, let's
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  Speaker 3: just say it maybe was six. But it's incredible to
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  Speaker 3: do that, Like it's really hard, Like just going you know,
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  Speaker 3: three for three in a game is really hard. To
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  Speaker 3: be able to do it back to back to back
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  Speaker 3: days is incredible. But yeah, I'm definitely not giving up
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  Speaker 3: that bat right away. The streak may end or I'm
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  Speaker 3: having them authenticated. I'm riding that bat out until it
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  Speaker 3: breaks or it cools off, and then I'll give it
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  Speaker 3: to Cooperstown.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, Tyler told you have a major way into Cooperstown.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, foul Territory. We're going to be in
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia for the All Star Game.
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  Speaker 2: Cannot wait. Here is what we can look forward to.
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  Speaker 6: All Star Tyler Glass, that Chris Sale the All Star
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  Speaker 6: chow to Minaga.
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  Speaker 5: In fact that I can be on the show, that's
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  Speaker 5: also great honors to.
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  Speaker 2: Join us.
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  Speaker 1: We cannot wait for you guys to be there with us.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully come and say hello. All right, let's charge the
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  Speaker 4: Charge them about.
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  Speaker 1: We had so many things this week when it came
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  Speaker 1: to no nos, when it came to perfect games, and
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  Speaker 1: it was ironic because it all seemed to happen in
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  Speaker 1: one week. But not all knows, guys, and certainly not
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  Speaker 1: all perfect games are created equal.
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  Speaker 2: But let's start with Dylan Cees.
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  Speaker 1: He was only three outs away, obviously a veteran pitcher,
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  Speaker 1: already at a career high one hundred and fifteen pitches
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  Speaker 1: when he came out for the ninth inning. Eli o'ramos
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  Speaker 1: ends up lining a single back up the middle that
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  Speaker 1: ended the bid. But I loved what John Schneider did.
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  Speaker 1: Let him stay out there, AKA, let him have the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to be able to make some history, have that moment,
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  Speaker 1: and didn't yank him out of the game despite.
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  Speaker 2: A career high in pitches. What is your take?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's great by Schneids. I
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  Speaker 4: think Schneid's is I was waiting for KP. The answer
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  Speaker 4: is my buzzle, but I was. I mean, Schneid's is
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  Speaker 4: the kind of guy that would do this. Obviously, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know Clayton, I don't know Donnie Kelly very well.
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  Speaker 4: Each situation is different, and Dylan ceases. I mean he's punching,
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  Speaker 4: he's punching tickets. He walked a few guys which got
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  Speaker 4: his pitch count up. There wasn't able to get the
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  Speaker 4: perfecto going to the ninth because of those walks. But
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  Speaker 4: to me, you let him go out there, and you
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  Speaker 4: may be on the back end, don't let him throw
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  Speaker 4: as many. Now the All Star Game's coming up, that'll
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  Speaker 4: be a different discussion. But yes, this is John Schneider,
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  Speaker 4: in my opinion, in this situation, he did the right thing.
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  Speaker 5: It didn't work out.
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  Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I mean I was watching the game, obviously
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  Speaker 3: following the Blue Jays, but then as we got like
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  Speaker 3: in the fifth inning, sixth inning, the no hitter was
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  Speaker 3: still intact to stop what I was doing, sat down
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  Speaker 3: and watched it. But a couple things stood out to me.
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  Speaker 3: One Dylancy besides this year which he didn't have an
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  Speaker 3: arm injury. He had a hamstring injury. Was the first
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  Speaker 3: time he's been on the IOH. This guy has been
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  Speaker 3: the epitome of starting pitching hell, So I think that
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  Speaker 3: has to factor into it. The fact that he's never
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  Speaker 3: had arm injuries. He's always been able to go out
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  Speaker 3: there and make his starts. He's as durable as they come. Secondly, yes,
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  Speaker 3: the All Star Game is coming up to you. You
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  Speaker 3: feel confident about allowing him to extend himself a little
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  Speaker 3: bit deep, deeper into the game in terms of pitch counts.
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  Speaker 3: Three Dylan seeds to knock on him early in the
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  Speaker 3: year coming over signing with the Toronto Blue Jays was
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  Speaker 3: his lack of ability to get deep into games. He's
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  Speaker 3: been punching out the world, but he's had long at
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  Speaker 3: bats with guys. He's had kind of history of walking
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  Speaker 3: guys a little bit more. Before the hamstring injury, and
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  Speaker 3: then post hamstring injury, he's been unbelievable for the Blue
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  Speaker 3: Jays getting deep into games. The fact that he's been
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  Speaker 3: was able to be at one hundred and fifteen pitches
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  Speaker 3: going into the ninth the name with an opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: throw a no hitter and being a Blue Jay guy
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  Speaker 3: and knowing the history of the organization, Dave Steeves is
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  Speaker 3: the last guy to throw a no hitter and it's
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  Speaker 3: been over thirty years. John Snyder being a Blue Jay
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  Speaker 3: guy too, you know, growing up in that organization, understanding
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  Speaker 3: how rare of an opportunity it is for a starting
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  Speaker 3: pitcher to go out there and have a chance to
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  Speaker 3: throw a no hitter. He made one hundred percent the
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  Speaker 3: right decision. And lastly, if you throw out the pitch,
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  Speaker 3: and I know pitch count is something you can't throw out,
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  Speaker 3: but if you're just visually watching the game with your eyes,
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  Speaker 3: he was showing no signs of slowing down. I think
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  Speaker 3: his first pitch in the ninth inning was a fastball
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  Speaker 3: that ran inside it ninety eight miles an hour. He
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  Speaker 3: was just as sharp as he in the ninth inning
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  Speaker 3: as he was in the first and second inning. So
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  Speaker 3: kudos to John Snider. When you have a guy like
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  Speaker 3: Dylan CeCe who checks all those boxes, health, durability, still
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  Speaker 3: showing the stuff, you know, he's your big ticket free
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  Speaker 3: agent sign who came over and he's got an opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to put himself in that rare company with Dave Steve's
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  Speaker 3: at throwing a solo no hitter. In fact, only no
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  Speaker 3: hitter in Blue Jay's history was Dave Steve. You got
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  Speaker 3: to give him the opportunity. Unfortunately it didn't work out.
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  Speaker 3: They made the right decision pulling him out of the game.
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  Speaker 3: And fun fact side note to that, you know, Trevor
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  Speaker 3: Rodgers or Tyler Rodgers got an opportunity to pitch, you know,
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  Speaker 3: back in San Francisco, So that was a cool thing
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  Speaker 3: that he got to kind of finish that game as
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  Speaker 3: well too.
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  Speaker 1: And Dylan Cease wasn't even born yet, guys when Dave
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  Speaker 1: Steve threw that no hitter thirty six years ago. As
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  Speaker 1: KP was mentioning September second, nineteen ninety Eric, I'll ask you,
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  Speaker 1: was Cease the best free agent signing this past offseason?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Murakami? I mean he's been great for the Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's been everything that they've wanted and
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  Speaker 4: everything that they thought they were getting. And I think
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  Speaker 4: he's even upticked a little bit, a few more punch outs,
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  Speaker 4: a few less walks. Now he's going deeper into games sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean you have to say, you have
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  Speaker 4: to say Dylan Cease over Marikami and just because more
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  Speaker 4: comedy's been hurt. But also like people looked at the
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  Speaker 4: Blue Jays like, wait, why are you making a move
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  Speaker 4: so fast on this guy? Like we get it, like
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  Speaker 4: he's pretty good, but a lot of people had some
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  Speaker 4: hate that they were thrown out there about Dylan Ceese's
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  Speaker 4: underlying metrics, and the Blue Jays said, we see value
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  Speaker 4: in this and we're pouncing early.
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  Speaker 2: The American League Cy Young.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at the National League, guys, it seems
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  Speaker 1: like there's a lot more people in play. The American
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  Speaker 1: League little weaker in terms of the league this season.
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  Speaker 1: Cam Schlittler obviously, in my opinion, the front runner for
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  Speaker 1: the American League Cy Young. But Kevin, we'll ask you this,
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  Speaker 1: where are you standing in terms of the Al Cy
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  Speaker 1: Young Award winner? Here are the Cy Young futures in
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  Speaker 1: terms of bet MGM. As I mentioned Cam Schlittler, Dylan
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  Speaker 1: Seese is right there right behind him, Drew Rasmussen and
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: of course Jacob de Gram of the Texas Rangers, who
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  Speaker 1: if the season ended today, the Rangers would be in
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  Speaker 1: the postseason in a weak American league. Does this board
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  Speaker 1: make sense to U?
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  Speaker 5: KP.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes a ton of sense, sense considering the
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  Speaker 3: fact that Dylan sees you missed two starts with the
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  Speaker 3: hamstring injury, the fact that he's right there. He does
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  Speaker 3: lead the American League in strikeouts. But Cam Schuler has
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  Speaker 3: been incredible, and you know, he's still a young pitcher
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  Speaker 3: in this game too, who really got his feet wet
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  Speaker 3: late last season. It's going to be interesting to see
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  Speaker 3: how the Yankees kind of manage him down the stretch
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  Speaker 3: in the second half. You know, we've seen teams like
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  Speaker 3: the Rays, and I know he wasn't a young pitcher,
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  Speaker 3: but what they kind of did with Blake's now and
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  Speaker 3: he ended up going on to win that Cy Young
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  Speaker 3: Award the year. Where I believe in the second half
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  Speaker 3: the season they capped him at five innings, that was
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  Speaker 3: the most he could go out and pitch, but they
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  Speaker 3: kept him fresh for the postseason. So I would imagine
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  Speaker 3: the Yankees do something very similar which would allow Dylan
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  Speaker 3: Ceese to kind of bridge the gap. But where it
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  Speaker 3: stands right now, I got no arguments with you know,
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  Speaker 3: the way that they kind of have him ranked right there,
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  Speaker 3: But Dylan it continues to make a push and like
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  Speaker 3: Kratzy said, I do love the fact that he has
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  Speaker 3: kind of checked all the boxes that the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 3: kind of expected that they were going to get out
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  Speaker 3: of him, and people thought they were a little bit
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  Speaker 3: crazy offering him that amount of money, that long term
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  Speaker 3: of deal, especially that early in the offseason. But the
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  Speaker 3: Blue Jays did their homework. They understood this is a
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  Speaker 3: guy that I'd never you know, finished I think in
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  Speaker 3: top five Cy Young or he has finished top five
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  Speaker 3: in Cy Young Award, and he even has MVP votes,
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  Speaker 3: but was never an All Star. So the fact that
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  Speaker 3: he's an All Star this year just shows you the
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  Speaker 3: Blue Jays knew that there was more value that they
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  Speaker 3: could get out of him, and he's been able to
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  Speaker 3: go out and prove it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna love this race because the Blue
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  Speaker 4: Jays are going to be desperate for every one of
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  Speaker 4: Dylan Ceese's inning starts, which every way you want to
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  Speaker 4: look at it, I feel like the Yankees, I get it,
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  Speaker 4: they're in a skid right now, but I feel like
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  Speaker 4: the Yankees are gonna lean on Cam to be the guy,
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  Speaker 4: but in a different way than Dylan Cease has to
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  Speaker 4: be the guy for a Blue Jays team who's like,
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  Speaker 4: we got to figure this out. So is their standings?
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  Speaker 4: Is where they're at in the standings going to affect
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  Speaker 4: the al Cy Young just not necessarily what voters think,
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  Speaker 4: but how each of them plays, because Cam, hey, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, we're good, we might we might back you down.
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  Speaker 4: I think he had one hundred and forty one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and forty some innings last year including triple A seventy six. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so one hundred and forty nine hundred and fifty innings.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you can stretch that to one ninety easy.
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  Speaker 4: But are they going to play the kid glove games
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  Speaker 4: with a guy who's I mean he's twenty five, Like
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  Speaker 4: he's not twenty one years old. He's got a lot
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  Speaker 4: of time under his belt. To me, I think I
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  Speaker 4: think they let him ride.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, how much do you think
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  Speaker 1: postseason performances in terms of, you know, opportunities rather not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily performances. But postseason opportunities and postseason innings play into
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  Speaker 1: the no hitter and perfect game equation. If you're going
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  Speaker 1: into the postseason, deep into the postseason, and you're throwing
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  Speaker 1: more innings than say, guys that don't make it. How
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  Speaker 1: much of a factor is that too, Like some of
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  Speaker 1: these guys, for example, you know, with the Yankees or
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  Speaker 1: with the Dodgers, or with the Phillies or whatever, have
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  Speaker 1: had more innings because their seasons are longer. How much
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  Speaker 1: do you think that plays into a manager's opinion, Kevin No.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely think it does. And there are certain teams
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  Speaker 3: that are fortunate enough to go to the postseason every year,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, you look at the back of their
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  Speaker 3: baseball car and it shows innings pitch, but we don't
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  Speaker 3: factor in the innings that they pitch in the postseason,
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  Speaker 3: and those are the highest leverage, most stressful innings you're
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  Speaker 3: going to pitch all year. There used to be this
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  Speaker 3: conversation about stressful innings. You know, not every innings the same.
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  Speaker 3: The first inning is different than the third, depending on
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  Speaker 3: the part of the order you're facing, how many runners
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  Speaker 3: do you have on base. But in the postseason it
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  Speaker 3: has magnified so much so I do think it plays
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  Speaker 3: a factor in how managers not only manage a certain game.
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  Speaker 3: If a guy's going to try to throw a perfect
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  Speaker 3: game or has an opportunity to throw a no hitter,
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  Speaker 3: you have to understand the big picture. Teams that know
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  Speaker 3: that they're going to the postseason are going to view
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  Speaker 3: that kind of individual accomplishment a little bit differently.
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  Speaker 4: I would say, different spots at different times. To me,
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  Speaker 4: I think Dave Roberts said it best. He said it
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  Speaker 4: best in the postseason. He was talking about Yamamoto. He's like,
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  Speaker 4: this is why we had our schedule the way we did,
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  Speaker 4: This is why we pitched him to certain points during
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  Speaker 4: the season for these moments, for the moment I think
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  Speaker 4: he was talking about. I think he was talking about
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  Speaker 4: when he was available for Game seven or not. But
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  Speaker 4: to me, I don't think you take somebody out of
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  Speaker 4: a perfect game in July or a perfect game opportunity
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  Speaker 4: in July because they pitched in the postseason or because
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna pitch in the postseason. I think you leave
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  Speaker 4: him in in a perfect game, especially in July, because
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  Speaker 4: this is the chance that we're going to push you
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  Speaker 4: to the limit to see what you have. Like, well,
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  Speaker 4: why didn't you keep him in that game? He only
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  Speaker 4: had one hundred pitches, Like he was our best option.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's our best option if I
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  Speaker 4: never push him to the limit.
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  Speaker 5: Dave Roberts.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like did that a couple times, not every
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  Speaker 4: start with Yamamoto during the during the regular season, but
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  Speaker 4: there was time when you push a guy, and I
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  Speaker 4: think this was the perfect time. This is perfect if
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  Speaker 4: it was September twenty seventh. I don't know that John
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  Speaker 4: Schneider allows Dylan Cease to go back out if they
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  Speaker 4: are if they are in the postseason and they got
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  Speaker 4: to play a three game series and his next start
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  Speaker 4: is going to be in the postseason, or is two
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: starts from now is going to be in the postseason,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know that he goes back out, So I
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: think it's really dictates on where they're at and what
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: the next start is or what the previous start is.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: If it's in April, they probably don't allow it either.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the more opportunities you have in the postseason, the
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: more opportunities you have to play with it and figure
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: it out. Dave Roberts certainly has that time, and of
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: course John Schneider in the postseason as well. All Right, guys,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: why not go grab some Miller Lite today because game
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: time is Miller time must be legal drinking age, of course,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: celebrate responsibly. Conversation surrounding obviously Dylan Ceees and losing the
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: no no there deep into the ballgame. Obviously, conversations about
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Jones being taken out through in a perfect game as
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: well as as some other folks will get to that momentarily.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: But I'm interested in your opinion about this.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Jared Jones perfect through six innings against the Braves yesterday,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: went six innings, obviously, no hits nowhere and runs if
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: he was throwing a perfect game, obby eight strikeouts, and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: then following him the bullpen comes in and gives up
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: five runts. So I guess the question is, KP, we
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: can start with you perfect game going and gets taken
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: out early in the game. I know the situation is
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: interesting because of you know, coming back from surgery and
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: those types of things, but I'm interested to hear your
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: thought on this.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean clearly with the amount of pitches, yet
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: seventy five was kind of he was probably between seventy
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: five eighty pitches somewhere that was scheduled going into the game.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: You would love to see kind of a similar answer
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: that John Snyder game, and like, hey, I love the
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: history of the game. I understand what's going on. But
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: you could understand this one a little bit more. The
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: fact that he got a later start to his season,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: he's coming off surgery, he's one of their best young
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: pitchers that they're trying to build this thing around. You
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: could understand it a little bit. You know, it sucks
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: for fans of the game because things like this don't
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: happen every single day. And clearly, you know the stuff
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: he had that day, the command, the eight strikeouts through
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: six innings against a really tough Braves lineup. You would
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: love to see him go out there and try to
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: finish it. But you can understand it, and you could
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: see that Jared Jones even knew kind of what he
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: was doing in that game, going straight down the stairs,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: probably trying to avoid knowing that he probably had reached
• 18:45
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  Speaker 4: This is where nobody's going to watch the other episodes.
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  Speaker 4: When we talked about this with Juri Perez and say,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: wait a minute. You said this about Uri, but you
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: didn't say this about the Pirates. What's the difference. Do
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: you hate the Marlins? No, this is a different case.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Jared Jones is a different case. This is the Pirates
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: need him out on the field. They need uri On
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: out on the field, just like they need Dylan Ceese
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: out on the field. I just think different situations. And
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Jared knew it. KP hit it right on the nose.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Jared knew it when he came out. That's why he
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: went down the dugout, just because he's like, Nope, I'm
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: just going if I avoid you, you can never That's
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: why I used to do in spring training. I used
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: to just never go into the locker room so nobody
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: could ever fire me. And then I'd get my money
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: at the end of the end of the day on Mondays,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: and then I had to spend the rest of the
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: week at Bigley Camp, so I would just avoid. He
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: was avoiding don Kelly. You can't take me out of
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: the game if you don't know where I am, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I just run back out to the mound the next day.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Don't you want that, though? Don't you want that?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: And a guy that wants to have the ball and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: wants to be back out there, and so that I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you can't find me, so I can't.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Take it out of the game totally, and a joking
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: part of it. Like you saw how pissed off Zach
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Wheeler was when he got taken out of the game
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: the other day when he was at one hundred and
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: five pitches, that he felt like he deserved to stay in.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: And this looked more to me like more of like
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: a joking, Like I get it. I know I'm supposed
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: to come out here, but I also know what's going on.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: And I think Don Kelly knew what was going on,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: and I think it was in this case, I think
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: it was the right decision. Jared Jones has not stayed healthy.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: They need him to stay.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Healthy, Kevin.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Isn't it funny how baseball works? They take out Jared
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Jones throwing a perfect game after seventy five pitches, they
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: immediately lose the game essentially.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: With the bullpen.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: A former catcher who they dumped in favor of a
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: worse player, crushes the home.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Run to likely win the game. I mean, baseball is
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: just a funny thing, is it not.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, baseball was really funny. I mean I think first off,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: it just shows how good your Jones was through that
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: six inning. It didn't matter who is coming in out
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: of the bullpen, they were going to match how good
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: he was that day. But yeah, it's just so fitting
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: that a guy in Joey Bark, who's kind of obviously
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: was a big time prospect, a number two overall pick,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: you know, was with Pittsburgh earlier this year, you know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: gets dfate that Braves pick him up, and he ends
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: up kind of having the big swing in that game.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Baseball is so fun to watch because it feels like
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: every game and even if you're not a Pirates or
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Braves fan, there's always kind of these storylines that you
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: could find. And the fact that, you know, Joey Bart
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: comes back to Pittsburgh and has that big hit against
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: his former team, and you know, a guy had to
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: throw in a perfect game through six inning and as
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: soon as you get him out of the game, it's
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: like hit, hit hit, Okay, game's over.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: That's what he said. That's what he said.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: That's what he said.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: First things first, let's talk about Anthony Volpi. On Tuesday,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Michael Okay, the long time play by play guy for
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: the network, shared a report on his ESPN radio show
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: that relied on anonymous sources, and he suggested and suggested
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: that Volpi refused to play second base while in the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: minor leagues earlier this season. Now, then he retracted the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: report on a show Guys Wednesday morning. Wednesday afternoon, he said,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I had two people tell me, and I heard rumors,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Kay said while explaining himself in the dugout at Tropiccanafield
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday. He admitted, good for him that he was wrong,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: So since that time, Eric will start with you. Anthony
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Volpi responded to the since retracted report, claiming he refused
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to play second base when I was getting optioned. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: told Boonie I'd play catcher. I'd do literally whatever the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: team needed. And that is the truth. And ek, that's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: exactly what you want to hear from Anthony Volpi, who
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: had all of this fanfare when he came up, obviously
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to play short loved Derek Jeter came up as a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yankee fan. What pressure this kid must have been under
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: played really well, got a gold Glove and then was
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: terrible offensively.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: People wanted to run him out of New York.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: But now he's say in the things at least what
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you'd expect to hear from a young kid that just
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: wants to be a team player.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: This is all I've ever heard of Anthony Volpe. I've
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: been a proponent of it, and I know people are
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: banging the drums. Yankee fans hate me for saying the
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: things I've said positively about Anthony Volpe, but I've never
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: heard anything from the people that matter in his life
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: that he's doing anything bad. Yes, he doesn't hit as
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: well as Derek Jeeter, good luck. Like the people that
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: have to take over shortstop forever until they become a
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer will always have it tough. Dde Greglorious,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Like when he came in to take that job, people
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: were like, who's this bum? And nobody hears anything about
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: d d Ded. He hit big home runs. Ded, He
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: did a lot of really good things. Right now, the
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: drum is beating that everything is coming up negative for
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: to me, a young player that's still trying to find
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: his footing in the game. Whether people agree with me
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: or not, that's totally fine. Good for him for speaking
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: out on this, and I think part of it too.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: You know, anything I've hope doesn't say a whole lot
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: and for him like this, this one hurt him. So
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: he definitely he definitely spoke out and said something, because
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: that's not who he is. He's like, I'll do something.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: I'll do something for it. What do you need me
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: to do it?
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Don't don't just bring up catching. Catching is not that easy. Okay.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Make sure everybody knows that catching is not that easy.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: All right. The bigger story to me is Mike okay here.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I do love the fact that he came out a
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: day later and said that he was wrong. But this
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: is my question to you, Alana, because you've been doing
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: this a lot longer than me, You've been in the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: media a lot longer. If your anonymous source is wrong,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: you then get to call him out. Who the anonymous
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: source is. Should you get to call that anonymous source
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: out for being wrong?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I mean you should, But the problem with sources is
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you can't necessarily say who they are or else they're
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: never going to be a source again. If this is
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: somebody that he had trusted in the past, I could
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I could you know, you kind of say, okay, I'll
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: give you that when we all make mistakes. But if
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: this was just some random DRABBRONI that no one's ever
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: heard of, and he went with that, then that's on
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Michael Kay.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: We don't know who this source was.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: But I do give Michael Kay a little bit of
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: a pass because he has been doing this a long
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: time with the Yankees, and I'm assuming that he wouldn't
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: be as as flippant as just to take anybody's word
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: for this.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: He said he had two He said he had two sources.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: He did, he had two sources. But if he if
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: he gives you a bad source, if he gives you
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: a bad he gives your name, if it's you Alana,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: gives Alana a bad name because you're the one that
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: said it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Right, But did he name But did he name the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: source to begin with?
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: No, I'm calling him out if I'm be like, hey,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: you know what, Kevin Pillar told me that Alejandro Kirk
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: doesn't like Mexican food?
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Like what?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: But here's the problem.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Somebody can click that piece right there, and then Kevin
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Polar is hated amongst these people because he's lying about
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Alejandro Kirk. You know, it's if he I think, if
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: if he trusted the source to begin with, then he's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: going to give that guy a pass. But I guarantee
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you he'll probably never go to that girl or guy
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: or it's fair, that's fair, He's not going to go
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to those people ever again.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: So that's my point is if you've lost this source,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: if you lost the trust in your source, then what's
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: holding you back from just calling him out? And maybe,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: like you said, maybe he's given him one hundred tips
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: before and ninety nine of him been correct and then
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: one is it? So you don't want to necessarily burn
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: that source, but feel that way as if you feel
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: that way as a reporter, that he can no longer
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: be trusted as my source anymore. I'm calling him out.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I think i'd call him out privately.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd call him out publicly, because
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: he has given you the right information. He or she
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: has given you the right information ninety nine out of
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time. But now I would
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: definitely have some pause if I ever went back to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: that source again, because now you now you look like
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the idiot, right, you look like the person that's like, oh,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I should have never gone with that, because then I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: mean everyone Michael Kay has a massive, massive following. It's
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: not like just like you know, some little blogger that
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: nobody knows who he is.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, he has a massive following.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: He's been with the Yankees for twenty something years, so
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: people take his weight in gold, and they take his
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: word as the gospel. So when he says something, most
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: folks are going to run with it. So it makes
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Michael Kay look bad, It certainly makes the sources look bad,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and hopefully we can learn from this.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: This is massive. Though, this is massive. I don't care
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: what anybody says about like, ah, who cares, you know?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Whatever he retracted. This is like Anthony Volpi is going
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: to have to find a job somewhere. Whether he becomes
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: an All Star next year for the Yankees, he's going
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: to have to find a job. Like you all, everybody
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: moves on to another team. If something like this could's
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: put out there, Oh I heard he's blah blah blah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I heard Claver Torres. Claver Torres came out and said
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: he didn't want to play third. Well, now all of
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: a sudden, Clabor Torres will play third. Like who are
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: like if that repver.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Gets divers Yeah, that was That's what I was saying.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that those were those are high profile
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: things and If those things get put out there, that
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: ruins your value as a player, let alone the fact
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: that to me, it makes a player look like a
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: turd because it's not like you like maybe you just
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: won't do as well there. But if you're trying to
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: help the team, that's what makes the team. Teams run,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: that's what makes the teams that are that are missing players.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: You're missing, Aaron Judge. We need to figure out where
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: we can get the best players on the field when
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: we face a lefty. Anthony Volpi is our best shortstop.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Cabiierra is going to be our best right fielder because
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: he's right handed. Yes, we don't want I'm ed Rosario
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  Speaker 4: out there all the time, but you know what, he
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: raks against lefties, so we need him out there. Like
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: there's there's things you need to do as a team
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: to win. And when that kind of stuff's being bantered about,
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  Speaker 1: Well, the next where you hope that Michael Okay apologize
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to Anthony Volpey, And that's where you hope that the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: narrative gets shifted to hopefully it doesn't even become a narrative,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Hopefully this doesn't get out there,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: like oh, Anthony Volpi said he never wanted to play
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  Speaker 1: second base when he was in the Monor League.
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  Speaker 5: But it means a lot. It means a lot.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: It's like it'd be like me spreading a rumor about
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Alana about you know, and it's like on the show,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: it's like said, and then it's like, well, that's out
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: there forever. That's Alana's career, that's Kevin's career. About something.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: And I think sometimes am I saying this is Michael
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Kay because he has a great following and he does
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: a great job all that stuff. But this is massive
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: for players, and it really is hurtful. And I love
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: the fact that Anthony Volpe spoke out, a guy that
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: doesn't speak a lot spoke out and said some.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: And it's also in New York too, where everything is
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: just magnified even more and even more so on that
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: side of town with the Yankees. So like I said,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I mean the fact that Michael Kay has been in
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: this organization for as long as he is, he has
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: a huge following, good on him for coming back the
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: following day and setting this story straight, because it's not
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: It is about the story, but it's more about what
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Kratz he's talking about. It's about a player's reputation in
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: this game that you really only can do. You can
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: do a thousand things right in this game. You can
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: do one thing wrong or say one thing wrong in
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: this game and you're written off forever. So if it's
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: something that Anthony Volpi didn't actually do, and this rumor
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: was started, and this is something that could cause kind
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: of this snowball effect in his career because Michael Kay's
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: audience is so large, and it's New York, and I'm
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: pretty sure it was probably printed on the back of
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the New York Post, because that's what they do in
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: New York. They take these small, little stories, whether they're
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: factual or not factual, and they make them big stories
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: so they sell. But good on Michael Kay for setting
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the story straight, and hopefully this is sort of the
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: end of the conversation moving forward.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Well, good on Michael Kay for setting the story straight,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: but he also owes Anthony Vulpi an apology, and hopefully
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: that happens as well. Talking about New York I think
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: of Don Maddingly a lot of times, and of course
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: he is the skipper, the interim skipper, if you will,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Phillies.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Who knows what happens beyond this season.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: But asked in an interview before the game, how he
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: would feel if the Phillies approached him about managing beyond
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: this year, he said, yes, he'd like to do that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Now he's working on an interim tag at the moment,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: as we said, says it depends, of course, on what
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: David Dobrowski would like to do. But we were talking
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: about this guy's in our production meeting Buster only with
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the tweet there, and I would be kind of irritated
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: if it felt like, you know, I'm just this interim dude,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: and here we go, here comes Alex Cora. I mean,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: they're playing so well under Donnie Baseball and Mark Wiener,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: our big boss, was like, what if they make the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: World Series? Are you not going to bring Eric? Are
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you not going to bring Don Maddingly back? Because already
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: in your mind when Rob Thompson was fired, it was
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: like Alex Cora was the heir apparent.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: What do you do in this situation?
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know how Dave Dombrowski Dayvion Browski doesn't seem
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: like he really cares what people think. He is going
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: to make the moves that he feels like he's best
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: for the team. But when you're choosing a manager, you're
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: choosing what kind of like environment you want your players
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: to play and the players that you went out and
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: spent money on and traded for prospects on. And Dave
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: don Browski wants to win. So if he doesn't think
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: that Don Mattingly going forward after this season is the
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: best fit to manage this team, I don't think Dave
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: don Browski's really going to feel that bad about going
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: out and getting the guy who he thinks in jo
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: In Alex Korra they won a World Series together, is
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: going to be the guy obviously, depending on how far
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: they go. If they continue to play well, Don's built
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: some rapport with this team and to give these guys
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: a fourth manager in their tenure as players with Bryce Harper, Schwarber,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Real muteau Stott was even up there. Bom was even like,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: all these guys, a Bowl will be gone after this year.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: But you know the this team has had Joe Girardi,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Rob Thompson, Don Mattingley, and then he would go and
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: throw Alex Cora into it. I think Don Brawski will
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: make the right move. But I'm not saying the right
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: move is keeping Don or the right move is bringing
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: in Alex Cora. It just seems it's a tough it's
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: a tough spot.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: It is a tough spot. How how tough would it be, Kevin?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: If Preston Maddenly is in those meetings, that's your dad,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: but you're also the GM of the team.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it would have to be
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: a deeper conversation than Buster Oney's reporting about Don Mannley
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: potentially wanting the stage. Don Mattingley is a little bit older,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: He's got younger kids, you know, He you know, hasn't
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: been a manager in a while. He's kind of enjoyed
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: his role that he had with the Toronto Blue Jays.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: You know, he's now stepped up, you know, and maybe
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: he has this new kind of found joy and love
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: for managing again. But I think it's a longer conversation.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I think Eric makes a fair point on a couple
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: of things. Dave Debrowski doesn't seem like a guy who
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: gets caught up in kind of the emotion of either
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the fans or what's going on currently. I mean, I
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: think if they win the World Series, you have to
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: bring them back. But I think if they even get
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: to the World Series and lose, I think Dave Dombrowski
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: can justify the idea that he did a great job
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: for our team, but he didn't win the whole thing, right.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I think that's just the way his mind works. But
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: it's crazy because for the longest time you just kind
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: of felt like Alex Kor was the heir apparent. But
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: what Don's been able to do for this team, And
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: you think about is it the reason the Blue Jays
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: aren't playing well? But could it be some reason that
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: they're not playing as well the fact that don was
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: there last year and he's not there anymore. I don't
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: know exactly what Donnie Baseball's role was with the Blue Jays,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: whether it was making in game decisions, keeping John Snyder
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: in line with his decision making. Maybe it was just
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: a relationship that he had with the guys in the clubhouse.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: But clearly there's a void that's missing without Donnie Baseball there,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: and clearly something has changed in Philadelphia because we're talking
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: about the same group of players. They didn't go out
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: and make any additional moves when they fired Rob Thompson.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Donnie's just kind of trying, took, you know, one off
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: his desk over the team's playing better. So there's something
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: magical about Donnie baseball. So there's gonna be a tough
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: decision for Dave Dombrowski. But you know, I was when
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Philly was in town in Toronto. I was sitting like
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: two suits over from him, and I was just watching him.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: And that guy is like a robot, like he has
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: no emotion. You feel like his brain's always kind of calculating.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: He's thinking about the now, tomorrow, the future. He's probably
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: thinking about the past decisions he made in the past.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: So if there's a guy who's probably gonna go out
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: and make the best decision for this organization moving forward
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: without any emotional attachment to it, it's David Broski.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: If I'm done matting Lee and I had this illustrious
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: baseball career, this should be a Hall of Fame player,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: incredible manager, coaching stuff, and I win a World Series. Sorry, KP,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: you can't even hire me. I'm going I'm walking out
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: a champion. I thought he was gonna do it last year,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: but I kf didn't get a big enough lead.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, does Dave Dombrowski is do
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you force the hand to bring Donnie back dependent upon
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: how deep they get into the postseason? If this team
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: goes to the World Series, do you have to bring
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: him back? If they don't make the postseason, which they're
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: going to, then does that make it easier for you?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Kevin?
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I think you. I mean, this is me being a
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: wishful thinker, But I'd like to think that the players
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: that are there for a long time, like Bryce Harbor
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: and Trey Turner and Kyle Schwarber who's recently signed his deal,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: probably have a little bit of say and if they
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: want Donnie back, if they feel like he's the best
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: guy moving forward. And I'd like to think how deep
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: they get into the playoffs has a little bit of
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: effect in it. But like I said, I think Dave
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Dombrowski is so he set such a standard for himself
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: in whatever organization that he runs. Unless they win the
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: World Series, it doesn't matter how deep you go into
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: the postseason.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, I don't think it matters. I think
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Dave Dombrowski knows what he needs to see from this
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: player group. But I also think, you know, the player
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: group needs to be able to speak up, and I
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: think Dave isn't afraid to ask players those types of
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: hard questions that are going to be there for the
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: next few years. So I think he makes the right decision.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if Don is the right decision,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: and I don't know if Alex is the right decision.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Either of them very well, and I'm not in that clubhouse.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler said last night guys he would pitch in
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the All Star Game, even though he is scheduled to
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: pitch Sunday in Destois. His manager and pitching coach said
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: today they'd have no problem with it. He wants to pitch,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: he wants to participate. Is this a snub that mister
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Wheeler is not in the All Star Game?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Not pitch?
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I do have a hot take on this.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Here's my take. People that go to the All Star Game,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: and I never got a chance to go, but I
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: have a lot of friends that went to it, and
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: obviously it's a great honor to go, but you don't
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: necessarily get any break. You know, you travel Sunday, you
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: have the home run Derby, then you have the All
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Star Game, you have all the kind of events you
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: have to do. Yeah, the game's over late. Then maybe
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: you travel the next day. You maybe get one day
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: at home. The reason Zach Wheeler is not an All
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Star is because the reason he's coming out and saying
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: that is because he wants to be an All Star
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and he's deserving to be an All Star. And the
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: only way Major League Baseball could really justify adding him
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: to the rosters he'd have to pitch in the game.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: So here's my hot take. The guys that go to
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the All Star Game deserve a break. So why don't
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: we move the All Star Game back to the middle
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: of the week. Give these guys an entire week off
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: where there is no Guys who pitch Sunday aren't eligible
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: to pitch in the All Star Game. Give guys Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Homer and Derby, Thursday, All Star Game, Friday, Saturday, travel Day,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Sunday off start the season on Monday. Allows every guy
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: who deserves to be an All Star on the pitching side,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: who's no longer eligible because they're pitching too close to
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: the game, And you're allowing these guys maybe a couple
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: of days to get home, see their kids, spend time
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: at home, go on a little bit of a trip
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: before they go on the All Star break.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Bo I like a guy when he has when he
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: has a problem with something, he has a solution. And
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Kevin Pillar has a solution.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I love that and I and you know what, I
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: wish I would have had that problem in my career
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: that Okay, you play a game Sunday, you're on a plane,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: you know. I know, for the Blue Jays, they're in
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: San Diego, they got to fly all the way to
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia for the All Star Game. And gladly a lot
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: of those guys, especially some of those first time guys
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: and that staff, would would have flown around the world
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: to get a chance to, you know, participate in the
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: All Star Game. But for the guys that are going
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: there year after year after year, those guys deserve a
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: little bit of a break. So why not just move
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: it back, you know, a couple of days. Everyone else
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: in baseball will figure out how to have a week
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: off and be able to perform at their best. And
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: you know what, for the guys that don't go to
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: the Ulster game, they get Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday off.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: They fly back to their city, they have their workouts,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: you know, Saturday Sunday, and they're ready to hit the ground,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: you know, on on a Monday to start the season.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: But it just does seem unfair for these guys that
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: year in and year out go to the Ulster game,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: get zero time off to get away from the game,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: to just actually spend some quality time with their family,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: away from a baseball event or at a baseball field.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Owners and teams would never give up a weekend full
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: of gates, so that's why they're always going to keep
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: it Monday Tuesday. And they feel like they're doing us
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: as players a concession by saying, okay, get you get
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Wednesday Thursday off. One are the least attended games games
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Monday through Thursday, so they're like, yeah, we'll do an
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: exhibition during that time. We give him a weekend. Oh man,
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: our wallets are gonna get hit. But don't forget they do.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: The Phillies have now had two Fridays off this year,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: two fridays they have not played of the World Cup.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: But two Fridays off already this season, so they're willing
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: to make concessions.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I don't love that Zach Wheeler is not in the game.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: I don't love it. He's willing to pitch, which there's
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: gonna be plenty of dudes who are not willing to pitch.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: You know, he is the best, that is the he's
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: the next best. Yes, we can talk about snubs, Foster, Griffin,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah across the board. Ask him, just ask him.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: Oh no, we have a rule.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: We can't do this. Just ask him. You want the
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: games best there? Oh wait, and he said he's gonna pitch.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Holy crap, Like this is perfect. He could even start
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: the game. I know he's not going to, but he could.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Having Fridays off in the regular season is weird.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: That's weird.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: I think twice.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: I think I had one Friday off my whole career.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I was in San Francisco and I can't remember. I
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: think we had played the Bay Bridge and it was
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: like I think it was just like Saturday, Sunday was
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: the game. So we had a random Friday off and
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: it was the weirdest time because Friday is typically always
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: a night game unless you're maybe playing the Cubs or something.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: But to have a Friday off was never so I
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: guess normal for a lot of people, but like as
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: a baseball player, like that never happens.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Never.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: That's that's like, that's as weird as like a like
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a Tuesday getaway day, like that doesn't happen. Do you
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: get a getaway days on Mondays, Wednesdays or Thursdays? You're
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: always playing Friday, silly silliness. Mike Trout headed back to
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the All Star Game. Guys, he's officially off of the
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I l should be a go for the All Star
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Our Game. The last time he played in the game
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: was twenty nineteen, so that was quite a long time ago.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: It will be good to see him. It's always good
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to see Mike Trout healthy. It'll be great to see him.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: People want to see him. I would love it if
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: he participated in the home Run Derby, but I would imagine, no, Eka,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: you're shaking your head.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: No, why is that?
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Because I mean, just because he already said it, I
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: wanted it. I wanted Mike Trout to be in a
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: home run Derby. I want Christian Walker to be in
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: the home run derby the Philly guys there, I mean
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: South Jersey. It's the same thing. And what I really
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: want to know about Trout playing in this game, which
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: is unbelievable that he's back and like he's earned it
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: and he deserves to be there and he's healthy enough
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: to play, is I wonder how many tickets he's going
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: to have access to because, as in a Phillies alumni,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I only got two tickets that I had access to,
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: So I'm not sure if I'm being treated as fairly
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: as Mike Trout is if he's getting more than two tickets.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I mean a little different career, a little different career.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: That's okay, don't be sad.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Don't be sad.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Uh me and Mike Trout. I made the babies before
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Mike Trout, So there's that rot.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: See what could the Philly Natives fans that are going
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: to be at the game do to convince Mike Trout
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: to waive his no claws to come home to Philadelphia
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: and lay in his hometown because, like he said, his
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: first All Star game since twenty nineteen, we're talking about
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest players of all time. I know,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: he's an extremely loyal guy and said he's never gonna
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: leave Anaheim or Los Angeles whatever they call the Angels
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: now these days. But if there was a place he
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: was gonna go, he had always talked, Philly would be
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: the only place he would probably ever go because of
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: his geography to you know, where he grows up and
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: where he still makes home. So what could the Phillies do?
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: How much of a red carpet could they roll out
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: for him in order to get him to potentially change
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: his mind.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: The Phillies is an organization, don't need to do anything.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Here's what the fans in Philadelphia at the All Star
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Game need to do in the city every single time,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: every single time he comes up to the plate, they
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: should not sit down the entire at bat. They should
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: be cheering. It should be the loudest ovation like playoffs,
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: because Mike Trout hasn't seen the playoffs since twenty fourteen.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: When we when we beat him in three games, it
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: should be the loudest Philly fans can or should ever be.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: And then he'd be like, oh my gosh, this place
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: is legit, and he'll call Ardie Moreno and go I
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: don't care what you said before I'm waving it, I
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: want to go to Philly.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: Clip that, clip that.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: And then think about think about if they did that
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: for him. And he feels that, and then when the
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Ulster game is over, he hops in his car where
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: a car takes him not too far to his house
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: and he's thinking, course, home first, home first, and then
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: he wakes up in the morning, plays his golf course
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: and he's like, this is what my life could be.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I know it's extremely hard to leave Newport Beach, and
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: I've actually been able to go to Mike's house and
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: see where he lives and Newport it's it's hard to
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: leave that. But then you figure, man, I can live
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: at home. I could play at my golf course. I
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: can like commute to the field every day. This is
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: one less pack on my family. Not that he's packing
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: his bags, and I'm sure he has his entire separate
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: baseball wardrobe and life in Newport, but he can always
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: go visit Newport in the How great is that too?
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: He can stay at home and then when the winner
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: gets real bad and in Jersey, then he just goes
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: to Newport for for the winner. The best of both
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: worlds come on make it happen.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: This is it.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Come on to step up, step.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Up, and you have to do it.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I'm making sure the people that blast this type of
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: stuff out. I'm texting the guy who actually started the
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: he sees this clip because he started the standing ovation
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: when Trey Turner was terrible. Yes, he's the one that
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: He's the one that pushed that narrative.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: So and okay, we'll go a step further to Mike Trout,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: huge Philadelphia Eagles fan. Right, So in the future years
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: the Phillies the Eagles, they get their schedules aligned, you know,
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: they figure out how to play night games when the
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Phillies are you know, at home on Sundays. He never
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: misses a game. He just raw all the stops to
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: get Mike.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Him and Jalen Hurts are living next to each other.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: It's big Kumbaya.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Then Mike Trout gets on Avid Elementary with Kyle Schwartz
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Barkole saying they're carpolling, their kids are hanging out, they're barbecuing,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: all of the things.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Make it happen.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: All I care about is Mike Trout on a winning team.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: We are was wasting his career, all right, Nationals their stock,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: you guys is on the rise.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: CJ.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Abrams with home run at number twenty matches a career high,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: gives the Nationals a sick to one lead at that moment,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: and ties the Nationals with the Yankees for the most
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: home runs in Major League Baseball. Think about that sentence
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: for a hot minute. The Yankees and the Nationals are
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: tied for the most home runs in Major League Baseball.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: This from Spencer Nosbamu okay Ek that I don't know
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: that I ever would have thought I would say that ever.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: I mean when the stat came across the board when
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: we had a production meeting, I was like, for real,
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Like I knew they had three guys with twenty plus
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: home runs, but I wouldn't have said, like the whole team.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: It shows you like this team is essentially exactly if
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: not if it wasn't it was the same team from
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: last year, and the adjustments that these guys have made.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's the technology, Maybe it's the three hit tracks
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: that they are not hit tracks, trajects, traject systems that
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: the Nats ownership was willing to spend. That's one point
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: five million dollars and these players have really adapted to
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: playing in the big leagues more, and they have clearly
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: shown that they can do damage at the plate. The
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: front office had no idea this is what was going
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: to happen, because if they did have an idea that
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: the team was going to hit like this, they would
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: have gone out and spent like some dollars or a
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: dollar on the pitching staff and not gotten rid of
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: Mackenzie Gore and not said, Okay, well you know what
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: we're we're we're moving on here. This is a rebuild.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: But most people can't even say until CJ. Abrams had
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: that home run, who the three guys that have twenty
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: plus home runs?
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what. I was probably very skeptical of
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: their hiring of their manager in the offseason. When you
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: hire a guy this young, who comes from a player
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: developed background, how are you going to manage people? But
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I think the one thing he talked about, and I've
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: heard him talk on you know, different radio shows. I've
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: heard him on this show before, is you don't stop
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: developing at the big league level. Just because you're a
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: big leader doesn't mean we can't continue to coach you hard.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: We can't, you know, make adjustments. We can't do certain
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: things because a lot of a lot of teams, once
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: you get to the big leagues, they kind of expect
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: you to kind of be this product that you are
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: and then gradually over time you're gonna you know, maybe
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: evolve or change in a certain thing. But the fact
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: that they've been able to continue to coach these guys
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: and work on stuff why they're at the big leagues
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: and understand they're not finished products. I think we're seeing
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: this in real time. And I was wrong, you know,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: I was skeptical of the higher but clearly it's working.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: The fact that you know, they lead the major leagues
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: and home runs, they're three games out of a wildcard spot.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: They have a pitching staff of, you know, a handful
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: of guys that you probably don't even know their name.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Are they performing better than potentially the front office thought
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: they would? Probably? Absolutely? Were they maybe a little skeptical
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: And the fact that these guys would you know, develop
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: and grow so quickly under this coaching staff, Like Kratzy said,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: if they thought all these things what happened so quickly,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: they potentially would have gone out and maybe added some
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: arms on the pitching side. Because what they've been able
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: to do offensively. Is has kind of been incredible given
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: the roster of guys that they have.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: But you've also mentioned the arms.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Foster Griffin, King nine over seven frames, hasn't allowed more
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: than one earned run in seven consecutive starts. That ties
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: a NAT's record. I don't know how much you guys
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: have seen of Foster Griffin. I haven't seen a ton
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: of him, but obviously incredibly impressive from what you have seen.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Ek what has impressed you the most about him? About
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the way that he goes about it? Because he's putting
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: up some crazy numbers.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: He's a unicorn.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I thought it was show Hey. I thought Show Hey
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: was the unicorn.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, show Hey is the unicorn. Actually we're just going
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: to start calling it the show Hey. Now, No, no
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: longer a unicorn. But okay, how many average white lefties
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: do you see in the big leagues now? Teams do
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: not give those guys a chance. He has pitch ability.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: He learned incredible balance and and pitch making skills in
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Japan that I think he lacked or he said he
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: lacked when he went over there, and then he developed
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: that honed that skill and really enabled him to be
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: the pitcher that he is this year in the big leagues.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: And I think it is a prime, prime example of
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: we get it wrong so many times. Because everybody knows
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: what the stats are. If you throw ninety to ninety
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: three miles an hour, batting average against your fastball is
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: three something. If you throw ninety five to ninety seven,
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: your batting average is two thirty something. If you throw
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: ninety seven to one hundred, your batting average is one
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: thirty or one forty against. I get those numbers, but
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: not everybody can do that. Not everybody can do it
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: and stay healthy. And Foster Griffin shows that if you
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: learn to pitch, if you learn to be able to move,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: move your change up to both sides of the plate,
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: keep the ball down in the zone, run that cutter
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: in hard, run the velocity up in on your hands
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: on righties, that you can get a lot of easy outs,
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: and then you know what's happening. You're attacking the strike zone,
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: you're ahead, and then you'll get the punch outs because
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: guys are like, oh, he's gonna come after me, and
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: then you chase them farther away. He's pitching. It is
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: a unicorn. It is so much fun to watch. It's
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: like it's like I'm watching the UH twenty or nineteen
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: ninety nine playoff game, Like people actually pitch.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Then, why know All Star Game love for him?
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Other guys got sex as not sexy. Probably that's why too.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: And that's to Crass's point is, you know, we do
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: want the best players, and he's probably deserving to be there.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: But when you turn on the TV, it's a lot
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: cooler to see a guy throwing ninety eight in All
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Star Game than a guy just kind of cutting someone
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: up by throwing changeups and cutters up and in and
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: moving it around the zone. And you know, Crutchy, I
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: don't know, is there statistics out there for like, you know,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I know we have like all these metrics for you know,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: velocity and batting average versus stuff, But what are the
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: statistics of a catcher sets up his glove here and
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: the guy really doesn't miss it, Like, what what's the
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: batting average on.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: That they're trying to do that.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: They're trying to do that, but it was it was
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: actually a stat that they were trying to do based
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: on uh not track man Hawkeye. On Hawkeye where the
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: catcher sets his mid up as the target. But now
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: no catchers set their mid up as a target.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: They just do.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: This this, this, this rip, rip rip. Because people say, well,
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: pitchers don't need a target, Well, you know what. Pitchers
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: do need a target. They need to hit a target.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: And when I watch his games, he clearly is able
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: to control all four quadrants with multiple pitches, and he
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: makes a he makes a very comfortable zero for three
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: for a lot of hitters.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: That's the guy.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: And I don't know about you, KP, but I can
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: as soon as somebody says something like that, I'm like, oh,
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: I remember this.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: Guy was that way. That guy was that way.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: Because you're so used to you're so ingrained, and I'm
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: looking up his metrics here, you're so ingrained to say, Okay,
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: the guy we're facing the day, he sits ninety two
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: to ninety five, he'll touch ninety seven. Okay, well he
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: doesn't throw very hard. You're going Foster Griffin's averaging. His
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: average velocity right now is ninety one zero point six
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: to right. He's ninety two to lefty, So ninety two
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: miles an hour is what he averages. So he's gonna
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: sit eighty eight to ninety three, he touches ninety four,
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: and you're like, okay, well I can breathe a little bit.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: And then the game's over and you've heard the stats.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: Seven consecutive games with one one or less earned run.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I could think of two guys just
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: off the top of my head, you know, and I
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: can think of one hundred guys. But I can give
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: someone that's like still relevant, someone that's you know, recently retired.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: But Wade Miley always gave me proms, and when you
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: look at his you know, numbers on a spreadsheet, you're like, why,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: I don't understand, you know, since eighty a little cutter,
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: a little change up. And then Jose Kintana was another
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: guy that just gave me problems. And both of these
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: guys were left handed, which was kind of my m
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: as a hitter, is that I hit left handed pitching
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: really well. But for some reason, those guys and their
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: lack of velocity, their lack of stuff, but their ability
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: to just throw the ball where they wanted. And those
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: guys were also really good at reading my swings, like
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: if I either took a change up on the outer
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: half or swung at one, they knew how to make
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: it look like the same one, move it further out.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: They just continued to like move my eyes across the plate.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: And those guys always gave me challenges.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Add this to the things I would absolutely never do.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Kevin Palar flying in the sky, amazing experience with two
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: of my brothers, And yes I was terrified, Amvi, And
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: yes I would never let go of the rope on
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the CN Tower up there.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Tail Less about that experience, well.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: Anna, I was much like you. I would have never
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: done it. I would have never volunteered, although it was
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: a volunteer position. But the Blue Jays had reached out
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: to me and a couple of my teammates from that era.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: They were celebrating the fifty years of the Blue Jays
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: organization on Canada's Day. It happens to be the CN
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Tower's fiftieth year as well, so they thought connecting the
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: two was a great idea. And I was very hesitant
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: to say yes because I'm not a heightsky. I understand
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: how insane it sounds to climb up on that tower volunteer,
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: but I treated it like they put a gun to
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: my head. And I had no chose that I was
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: going to be letting the fan base down that I
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: was going to be letting the girls behind the scenes
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: that were reaching out that are near dear friends to
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: me and my wife. So I said, yes, I would
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: do it. I went up there. The anticipation killed me.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: When I walked out there. Though the view is incredible,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: I was very terrified. The closer I was to the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: actual tower, I was okay, but as I started inching
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: out on that platform, I was terrified. The view is incredible.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: If you were a person like me who's afraid of heights,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: there is a way that you can do it, go
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: up there, and the equipment is so safe. They've been
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: doing it for you know, I think eighteen years. That day.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: I had asked them how many people have gone up?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: They said sixty. How many people came down? They said sixty,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of their number, one hundred percent over
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: the eighteen years that they've done it, So it is
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: very safe. You're putting a lot of trust in a
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: safety harness a rope. That rope does hold seven tons,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: by the way, they told us that. But Marco and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Marco Strada and Justin Smoke were definitely more brave than me.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: They were a little bit more adventurous up there. But
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: to look down in that open roof on Canada Day,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: say all that read see that giant Canadian flag out there.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: They had us kind of way during the national anthems.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: As you could tell. My two buddies up there, two
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: hands off the rope waving, They're a lot closer to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: the edge. I'm in a power stance, one foot closer
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: to the back edge, holding on the road. So that's
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: what I could do. But I will tell you I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: would probably do it again, and I would be a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: little bit more adventurous. I don't know if I would
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: go toes over the edge, face down. Both of those
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: guys went toes heels over the edge, leaned back, took
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: their hands off. It looked like an amazing experience. I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: just needed probably a little bit more time to warm
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: up to the idea of being up there. But I'm
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: glad I did it.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: It gives me chills. There's no way in the world.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Good for you.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: Uh Yeah, Like I said, I think if you had
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: the mindset like I had to, and I was fortunate
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: I knew about it for like a month and I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: was there three weeks prior with my wife and kids,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: and we went up and I was only inside. I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: never went outside, but I was warming up to the idea.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: I started like standing on the sea through glass down there,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: like glad you could do this. I started like looking
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: over the deck looking out the glass and be like, oh,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: it's not that bad, but nothing prepares you for when
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: they open those sliding doors and you're walking out there.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: It happened to be a little bit of a windy
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: day too, so like that also added the fear to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: it a little bit too. But I'm here to tell
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: the story, and every single person that's been out there
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: is here to tell the story. So it is safe.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: You just have to put a lot of trust in
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: the equipment.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Andy Carnival in our chat said the sea and tower
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: is five hundred and twelve meters high. I have not
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: fact checked that, but let's just assume it is five
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: hundred and twelve meters high. That happens to be you guys,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: basically sixteen hundred and eighty feet off of the ground
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: is where Kevin Pollar was good for you.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Don't quote me on it. I do know it's I
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: know it's over thirteen hundred feet off the ground. I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's quite that tall, but at the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: time it was one of the tallest free standing structures
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: in the world. I think Kratzy's probably looking up the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: numbers right now, but it's very high up there.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's definitely high. Whether it's thirteen hundred or
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: sixteen hundred, that is high.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Apparently it's five hundred and fifty three point thirty three meters.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: That's eighteen hundred and fifteen point five feet the tallest
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: freestanding structure in the Western Hemisphere. Mercy, good, good on you,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Kevin Plar. All right, Kratz, Are we talking about your hat?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Is it time for Kratz hats or do you have
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: a story?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: We are talking about my hat. We are talking about
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: my hat, and we're going to talk about my hat
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: while we show the videos that I sent in. I
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: have two boys ones nineteen freshman in college and no
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: and this is the nineteen year old first at bat
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  Speaker 4: of the game. He hits a dinger. I got to
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  Speaker 4: play in a game with both of them, so he
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  Speaker 4: hit a ding a. That's our oldest. This is my
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  Speaker 4: fat butt getting a knock my first ab Okay, so
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  Speaker 4: now we're both one for one, and then my younger
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  Speaker 4: son who's seventeen, comes up right after me and hits
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  Speaker 4: a dinger, so we ended up going on the day.
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  Speaker 4: We won the game. I caught all seven innings and
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  Speaker 4: we scored four runs and three of them were by
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  Speaker 4: the Cratzes. So it was a cool opportunity to be
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  Speaker 4: able to play in a game. I haven't played in
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  Speaker 4: a game since we played. I guess I did play
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  Speaker 4: in an alumni game. But I want to thank the
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  Speaker 4: This is Perky Homan Valley Twilight League. It's Tamenson Bats
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  Speaker 4: and the Crowley family affording us the opportunity. There's seasons
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  Speaker 4: almost over, and they said, hey, would you be willing
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  Speaker 4: to do this? And both my boys were like, I
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  Speaker 4: would love to play because we've never played in a
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  Speaker 4: game together and to go out there and do it.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what, I came one pitch away from
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  Speaker 4: calling a no hitter. So we had a seven innings
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  Speaker 4: and the pitcher gave up a home run.
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  Speaker 3: As much as he got pulled out of the game,
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  Speaker 3: they did they leave the picture in. Was there any
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  Speaker 3: conversation in the dugout of pulling the picture?
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  Speaker 4: It was they were never they were never taking them out.
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  Speaker 4: My guy, my guy also named Eric, stayed in the
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  Speaker 4: game threw a one hitter, so I got to catch
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  Speaker 4: all seven innings. It was epic to be able to
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  Speaker 4: do that with my sons, and to be able to
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  Speaker 4: be on the same field compete. It was so so
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  Speaker 4: much fun. And I'm so glad I don't play baseball
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  Speaker 4: anymore because they threw me no They threw me no fastballs.
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  Speaker 4: The only fastball they threw me was that one I
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  Speaker 4: got a base hit on, and then I had to
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  Speaker 4: fight off a slider for another line drive base hit.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean only a single though. You couldn't get
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  Speaker 2: any two baggers, no doubles. Leg it out of a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of these legs were running. They were not running fast,
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  Speaker 4: but these legs were running like I was. I was
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  Speaker 4: impressed with my running ability.
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  Speaker 5: And that's it.
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  Speaker 4: Like I told my son, the one, the second one,
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  Speaker 4: the younger one, I knew he was hitting behind me.
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  Speaker 4: I said, if I score from first on a double
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  Speaker 4: by you, you are never going to hear the end
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  Speaker 4: of it. So that's why I'm think of all like
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  Speaker 4: fifteen feet over the fence.
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  Speaker 5: He was sprinting out of.
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  Speaker 4: The box, which, by the way, he plays center field.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: KP gave him his glove. Dude, that's awesome making making legends.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that. Just it all comes full circle. Put
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: a bow on that.
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  Speaker 1: Good to be with you guys, Kevin Palar, Eric Kratz
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